Today I realized that Jeremy is one of my regular customers at the grocery store I work at. He's a really nice dude, right along with Matt, who I've seen there too. I think we should see some videos of Jeremy's Jeep, it's pretty sick. Best wishes - John
These shop antics is what I miss the most since moving away from my home town. Especially since you know you put in good work when something caught fire that wasn't essential.
Nice video guys. I just wanted to mention the dangers of using some brake cleaner solvents and welding. Some folks may not know it can be toxic if the wrong brake clean is used. Phosgene poisoning is no joke. Any cleaner with Tetrachloroethylene should be avoided if you'll be welding the metal afterward. Thanks for the great vids and info. You guys are awesome.
just toss the flaming shirts and shop rags anywhere. actually preferably literally right next to the fuel and oxygen lines for the torch. genius! good job guys. love the channel. keep up the good work
The carrier bearings were never meant to spin that fast. I don't recommend using the grinder to accelerate the ring gear like that. At the very least, don't let it spin so fast. Good way to toast the bearings. Not to mention those bearing were probably getting packed full of shavings from the grinder as they were spinning.
was awesome watching you guys trying to get it on the table and I thought something was going to explode by how fast it was spinning lol and I loved how he just let the fire burn didn't have a care in the world about it awesome video guys even though I'll most likely never use what I learned haha
I have a Wrangler but I'd love to have a truggy. Small pickup, extra cab with a tube bed. Storage, tire carrier, winch, endless possibilities, and no worries about body damage.
No disrespect meant, and I know that you have to do what's necessary, being on a budget and everything; but being a machinist, this broke my heart. Anyways, keep it up. Love all your videos.
I’m there with ya. It’s 6 years late, but I’m just sitting here thinking you could use my mill and lathe. Though, honestly, the grinding is prolly just as good as if it were turned.
thanks soon much.... I feel like I'm an ignorant .... I had no idea that the 14 bolt has that cool feature of the two expanding nuts .... that is way cooler than I thought .... thanks ! Nice video !
Like so many others, I worry about the bearings with all the grinding dust going through them. Also wondering how the bearings will handle the serious out of balance the ring gear is now. I don't know if they are balanced new, but I am pretty sure you can't see the wobble in them either. But honestly your guys videos are awesome and its great to see you getting out there and showing people what you can accomplish by just trying. love watching your videos.
No, the Ford Sterling 10.5 is a different axle. It is similar in that it is a full floating axle, but different manufactures. (they also made a semi floater version) GM made the 14 bolts.
I think you should next time explain to those who don’t know what the need is to preheat cast and then cover it up after to slow down the cooling process. Freggin awesome video thanks
Really good video, I need to do more searching on the channel. Jeremy is jam up at building as well, and very thorough. I love the Chubby Chasser, I run a YJ and am planning to stay leafs as well. You guys did a heck of a job cutting the bottom off with the portaband and sawzall. Great work.
I had the same thought - could have used the rag fire to keep the temp up on the axle. I suppose though once welding started temp would not be too hard to maintain. Amazing how long that rag burnt. Funny you let it burn so long.
I gotta ask did you guys put new bearings on the carrier or did you guys just try to clean them out. Has he put it back in and drive it. Any issues with metal shavings and such still in there. Love how you guys used the carrier and a grinder to shave her down. Pure genius and cost savings for the person trying to save money and spend it on cool stuff not labor.
I have similar concerns however, these are mostly off-road only vehicles they build so much of the tenderness in "clean" and "Perfect" doesn't apply to them as much as a vehicle that will put tons many highway speed miles on it. The videos are only a snapshot in time so we would all be guessing why reusing the pinion bearings after being infused with metal shavings/dust that likely didn't get fully cleaned off. Interesting either way.
Did you make multiple passes on the inside? Did you heat any in between welding inside/outside? Just curious, I’m going to weld mine up this week. I got to meet Jeremy and Tim at the Jeep beach jam in Panama City this year and really enjoyed the visit, thanks for the helpful videos!!!
Wow, very brave... i would never been so cool to cut the casting-housing, weld it and stick it up together like that. All the dust and gunk from angle-grinding and the welding pickles...very tough! I'm pretty sure that these bearings in trhat diff are now toasted neither the crown- gear and pinion are worn out.
If you Soot up the part with the tourch then heat it until that soot comes off your part will be close to 450 deg, just remember to hear the entire area.
Very interesting, i hope you swap out all your bearings, and give the casing a good clean before rebuilding!! Does the heat from grinding the ring gear soften it in any way?
haha I feel Matts priblem, when my dad and I built the cage on my 87 samurai we had an old towel that we layed over the windshield...weeeeeellllll it had oil and other flammable substances on it, so I looked down while he was welding to text me lady friend, and I look up and see a fire ball...I was fired from that job
Just a few questions? How will the ring gear stay properly lubed?Why were the Axel tubes not completely welded to the center section? Grinding on the ring gear, what affect does this have on it's Rockwell tonnage hardness? Spinning the ring gear that fast and only WD-40 as a lubricant the bearings would start to gaul?
I would imagines the whole thing would have a shit ton of metal shavings and grinding dust inside the housing and will require a serious dooooshing out when complete or perhaps a bypass oil filter setup. And butt plug mod
Thats a Pretty Haphazard way of doing thing’s! SUBSCRIBED. Assuming you fellers did one hell of a clean up afterwards.. did the pinion,carrier and pinion snout bearings have a long life afterwards? Is/was their provisions for a Magnet?
good tech. I have to say though, that truss looks like it was welded on with cat shit. also I would have used a high nickel rod for welding to the differential and used a heat blanket to slow down the cooling and keep your weld from cracking. another correction: not all 14bolts are full float. there is also a semi float variety.
cant believe you guys got that portaband to cut that straight. i cant never get ours at work to cut as straight on the line as i want it to. it always wanders off
i want a video on the gigantic jack in the back. and yeah mig welding is cool, but you should have arc welded it because of gives more penetration as these are some damn thick steel plates. and yeah its more fun to build it than using it :D :D
they had a 1ton 14 bolt which is a 10.5 ring gear that is a full float and they had a 3/4ton 14 bolt that is a 9.5 inch ring gear I bieleve which is a semi float
All that spatter from using mig on cast iron had me shaking my head. Probably had massive issues with cold lap and shallow penetration when a 1/8th 7018 or nickel rod specific for cast iron would have produced better results. I guess I'm just a stickler when it comes to welding.
Before we begin, let's talk about shop safety Be sure to read, understand, and follow all the safety rules that come with your power tools. Knowing how to use your power tools properly will greatly reduce the risk of personal injury. And remember this, there is no more important safety rule than to wear these: safety glasses.
LMFAO! As soon as I seen you 2 grab that, I started laughing! The axle alone is heavy enough but that has an extra weight of the boxed reinforcement anywho great video good NFO!
Because offroad axles take serious abuse. All axles should be trussed. Plus you have to have a flat spot to mount your upper links. The truss serves 2 purposes.
Is there a difference between years on a 14 Bolt? I found one in a 1998 Chevy K3500 in my local salvage yard. Besides having to convert it to disc breaks would this work in my 1981 Jeep Scrambler. I'm also looking at doing the same TMR shave kit.
Heating it up was smart but it was too cool and you didn't heat up the full part, typical preheat is from 500°F to 1200°F, don't go too hot around 1400°F the cast will be in a critical stage. After you heat up the part, only weld in one inch beads other wise you will have to much residual tension pulling to the weld bead. Also you can peen the bead to release some tension. Try to avoid under cut at all cost and if you make a route pass with a 50% over flow pass on both sides with a temper bead on top total of four passes you would be left with a weld with very little chance of breaking and or causing the cast to crack. Arc welding with UTP or 11018 electrodes gives you a much more ductile bead rather than mig with soild core wire and argon/co2 gass which is very brittle and has difficulty penetrating farther than 30% of the pice being welded. I know that you guys are just doing what you can with what you know and having fun but I hope I can pass on some knowledge for the next time.
Matt, i wanted to say 1) this video was very helpful for when i shave my 14 bolt defintly sold on the tmr over the ballistic fab cover now. 2) great video edit very entertaining and great shots. 3 is a question) What kind of camera are you using for this? the mid welding shots turned out fantastic and i would love to be able to produce similar results. ( i may even put together a few video's similar in nature to yours once time permits) thank you in advance.
Don't do this at home is right. My transmission and hydraulics instructor in our local trade school warned against rotating masses like this suddenly seizing up and doing some really crazy stuff. I am not sure if it would be enough rotating mass to spin your axle housing and pumpkin off the bench, onto the floor, across the shop and through the wall if those bearings happened to seize up. Probably not. Maybe a great episode for Myth Busters.
+FZT Motorsports the semi floaters also have a smaller ring gear ...9.5 as compared to the FF 10.5.... off which I machined off 9.5mm to clear the housing ......
Today I realized that Jeremy is one of my regular customers at the grocery store I work at. He's a really nice dude, right along with Matt, who I've seen there too. I think we should see some videos of Jeremy's Jeep, it's pretty sick. Best wishes - John
rere3748 yeah let’s get the lowdown on Jerome’s Jeep!
These shop antics is what I miss the most since moving away from my home town. Especially since you know you put in good work when something caught fire that wasn't essential.
Nice video guys. I just wanted to mention the dangers of using some brake cleaner solvents and welding. Some folks may not know it can be toxic if the wrong brake clean is used. Phosgene poisoning is no joke. Any cleaner with Tetrachloroethylene should be avoided if you'll be welding the metal afterward. Thanks for the great vids and info. You guys are awesome.
seriously the above statement can't be stressed enough . It will put you in the hospital It will hurt you really really bad
Didn’t know that.
I know what phosgene is and how it kills ya, but didn’t know about that particular risk of making it.
just toss the flaming shirts and shop rags anywhere. actually preferably literally right next to the fuel and oxygen lines for the torch. genius!
good job guys. love the channel. keep up the good work
The carrier bearings were never meant to spin that fast. I don't recommend using the grinder to accelerate the ring gear like that. At the very least, don't let it spin so fast. Good way to toast the bearings.
Not to mention those bearing were probably getting packed full of shavings from the grinder as they were spinning.
was awesome watching you guys trying to get it on the table and I thought something was going to explode by how fast it was spinning lol and I loved how he just let the fire burn didn't have a care in the world about it awesome video guys even though I'll most likely never use what I learned haha
Watching you two try to heft that monster was good stuff. Craigslist cherry-pickers are worth every penny.
I got a monster shop crane off Craigslist this summer to pick out a big block. It would make easy work of putting an axle on a table.
I have a Wrangler but I'd love to have a truggy. Small pickup, extra cab with a tube bed. Storage, tire carrier, winch, endless possibilities, and no worries about body damage.
No disrespect meant, and I know that you have to do what's necessary, being on a budget and everything; but being a machinist, this broke my heart. Anyways, keep it up. Love all your videos.
Which part ?
I’m there with ya.
It’s 6 years late, but I’m just sitting here thinking you could use my mill and lathe. Though, honestly, the grinding is prolly just as good as if it were turned.
thanks soon much.... I feel like I'm an ignorant .... I had no idea that the 14 bolt has that cool feature of the two expanding nuts .... that is way cooler than I thought .... thanks ! Nice video !
Like so many others, I worry about the bearings with all the grinding dust going through them. Also wondering how the bearings will handle the serious out of balance the ring gear is now. I don't know if they are balanced new, but I am pretty sure you can't see the wobble in them either. But honestly your guys videos are awesome and its great to see you getting out there and showing people what you can accomplish by just trying. love watching your videos.
Anyone doing a shave kit isn't going to be cruising down the highway at 70... itll be fine.
I think this is my favorite bleepinjeep video ive seen.
Not all 14-bolts are full floating...
9.5" ring gears are semi-float, 10.5" are full float.
Correct. Easiest way to tell the difference is the full float will have the bolts at the pinion gear. The semi-float will not.
brianwilsonbeachboys are the 10.5 your talkin about a sterling axle like what a f250 would have
No, the Ford Sterling 10.5 is a different axle. It is similar in that it is a full floating axle, but different manufactures. (they also made a semi floater version) GM made the 14 bolts.
We know
Don't forget the 11.5"
I think you should next time explain to those who don’t know what the need is to preheat cast and then cover it up after to slow down the cooling process. Freggin awesome video thanks
PS .. I['m sure you boys gotta engine hoist around the shop somewhere ..... its how I moved mine around :)
That's one way to keep it up to temp. Light a fire under it while welding
This is video worthy! Unlike basically everything tyler does
Very cool! I always love videos with Jeremy!! Pretty intimidating kit....I jus did the 1" shave on mine.
did you have to shave the ring gear for that too? or just the pumpkin?
Tom D
Nope....just the housing/cover
Awesome, awesome video! I am inspired. Makes me wonder if they have 14 bolt portal axles? A 15 bolt portal!
you can weld portal axle outers to the corp 14 bolt axle tubes the down fall is you will have to have custom axle shafts made.
Really good video, I need to do more searching on the channel. Jeremy is jam up at building as well, and very thorough. I love the Chubby Chasser, I run a YJ and am planning to stay leafs as well. You guys did a heck of a job cutting the bottom off with the portaband and sawzall. Great work.
I had the same thought - could have used the rag fire to keep the temp up on the axle. I suppose though once welding started temp would not be too hard to maintain. Amazing how long that rag burnt. Funny you let it burn so long.
I gotta ask did you guys put new bearings on the carrier or did you guys just try to clean them out. Has he put it back in and drive it. Any issues with metal shavings and such still in there. Love how you guys used the carrier and a grinder to shave her down. Pure genius and cost savings for the person trying to save money and spend it on cool stuff not labor.
I have similar concerns however, these are mostly off-road only vehicles they build so much of the tenderness in "clean" and "Perfect" doesn't apply to them as much as a vehicle that will put tons many highway speed miles on it. The videos are only a snapshot in time so we would all be guessing why reusing the pinion bearings after being infused with metal shavings/dust that likely didn't get fully cleaned off. Interesting either way.
Awesome video guys! that's some serious mods on that axle. Is there a video for the steel braces for that axle?
i know its off subject... but that is one big ass pop up garage!!!!!! where did he get it and how much lol!!!
How is this axle holding up? Are you still using it? Would be cool to have an update. Thanks
Did you make multiple passes on the inside? Did you heat any in between welding inside/outside? Just curious, I’m going to weld mine up this week. I got to meet Jeremy and Tim at the Jeep beach jam in Panama City this year and really enjoyed the visit, thanks for the helpful videos!!!
Wow, very brave... i would never been so cool to cut the casting-housing, weld it and stick it up together like that.
All the dust and gunk from angle-grinding and the welding pickles...very tough!
I'm pretty sure that these bearings in trhat diff are now toasted neither the crown- gear and pinion are worn out.
If you Soot up the part with the tourch then heat it until that soot comes off your part will be close to 450 deg, just remember to hear the entire area.
Very interesting, i hope you swap out all your bearings, and give the casing a good clean before rebuilding!!
Does the heat from grinding the ring gear soften it in any way?
haha I feel Matts priblem, when my dad and I built the cage on my 87 samurai we had an old towel that we layed over the windshield...weeeeeellllll it had oil and other flammable substances on it, so I looked down while he was welding to text me lady friend, and I look up and see a fire ball...I was fired from that job
You is my idols Bro’s, you hands and heads is best, and projects is cool, sorry for my English
Just a few questions? How will the ring gear stay properly lubed?Why were the Axel tubes not completely welded to the center section? Grinding on the ring gear, what affect does this have on it's Rockwell tonnage hardness? Spinning the ring gear that fast and only WD-40 as a lubricant the bearings would start to gaul?
its spelt gall
I need that building! Can ya tell us what kid it is please.
those bearing are toast
so much metal in those bearings... yup...
@@CraftwerksMC I will strip the housing bare and use my plasma
@@CraftwerksMC lol yep Robert!
A great tip guys is to use a vacuum cleaner as close to your work while cutting or grinding.
I would imagines the whole thing would have a shit ton of metal shavings and grinding dust inside the housing and will require a serious dooooshing out when complete or perhaps a bypass oil filter setup. And butt plug mod
That was a very impressive video. Holy moly that was impressive.
dry bearings spinning mach 2 I bet those are gonna be probl3ms
Since that Chevy Dana 60 was just sitting over there not being used, I'll gladly take it off your hands for one of my squarebodies
i bet it has been returned to it home under the cj8
🤣 I love when your buddy sprayed at the fire 🔥 😂 👏
Thats a Pretty Haphazard way of doing thing’s! SUBSCRIBED. Assuming you fellers did one hell of a clean up afterwards.. did the pinion,carrier and pinion snout bearings have a long life afterwards? Is/was their provisions for a Magnet?
Still working just great
good tech. I have to say though, that truss looks like it was welded on with cat shit. also I would have used a high nickel rod for welding to the differential and used a heat blanket to slow down the cooling and keep your weld from cracking. another correction: not all 14bolts are full float. there is also a semi float variety.
What wire and gas did you use? And another great video you give us jeepers a lot of tech info and that is greatly appreciated! Build on✊🏻
ITSNOTMEITISYOU .030 wire. 75%/25%
So did those welds crack? I would be really surprised if they didn't with all that "prep" work.
nope, still going strong
@@bleepinjeep So how about now? It's been another 2 years on the welds . ..
Thats one sick looking cover but dang thats a hell of extensive labor for two inches.
That's what she said
Can you do a portal axel swap on one your Jeeps.
Cool video but you lost some points with the Tennessee hat ;) Roll Tide. On a serious note, thanks for another great video
cant believe you guys got that portaband to cut that straight. i cant never get ours at work to cut as straight on the line as i want it to. it always wanders off
You must not have a very good one... try tightening the tensioners on the blade. My Makita one is always spot on
Way to use your belly to help grind😀 great job on the 14b shave
Carman 2012 yeah I was laughing my butt off
i want a video on the gigantic jack in the back. and yeah mig welding is cool, but you should have arc welded it because of gives more penetration as these are some damn thick steel plates. and yeah its more fun to build it than using it :D :D
If you have a mig set up right you will have just as much penetration as any other type of welding.
@@1234tche yup, just have to keep the cast iron hot and let it cool slowly.
What do you use for brake cleaner in this video? That stuff comes out of the can with a lot of force! I am looking for something like that.
I thought you guys were going to shit yourselves lifting that beast but instead I shit myself laughing at you guys lol
good video looks like you guys had some fun@!
they had a 1ton 14 bolt which is a 10.5 ring gear that is a full float and they had a 3/4ton 14 bolt that is a 9.5 inch ring gear I bieleve which is a semi float
damn I spy a gigantic jack stand in the background. where did that come from? nice video!
That's home brew
What about a SF 14 bolt 9.5 ring gear? Do I still need to trim my ring gear to install this kit?
What is this axle out of? My k10 has huge hubs on the end compared to that.
Why not take the calipers, pinion guard, and brace off before picking it up. Maybe even the shafts and hubs
All that spatter from using mig on cast iron had me shaking my head. Probably had massive issues with cold lap and shallow penetration when a 1/8th 7018 or nickel rod specific for cast iron would have produced better results. I guess I'm just a stickler when it comes to welding.
+Alpha Talon 🙄
Installed the TMR on mine BUT I took down both the housing and the ring gear on a mill ......who'd a thunk it :)
Before we begin, let's talk about shop safety Be sure to read, understand, and follow all the safety rules that come with your power tools. Knowing how to use your power tools properly will greatly reduce the risk of personal injury. And remember this, there is no more important safety rule than to wear these: safety glasses.
will thatplate warp if you drop a rigs weight on it
are those original disc brakes or aftermarket?
lol cant imagine with 50 lbs of trussing. I need to do some of that to mine, although its only a semi foat
LMFAO! As soon as I seen you 2 grab that, I started laughing! The axle alone is heavy enough but that has an extra weight of the boxed reinforcement anywho great video good NFO!
I am seriously curious as to why there's a truss on that 14 bolt.
Because offroad axles take serious abuse. All axles should be trussed. Plus you have to have a flat spot to mount your upper links. The truss serves 2 purposes.
U just proved it CAN be done at home that was the point people
Did you check run out after this?
Guys, use a weight belt when lifting heavy weights; must put oil on those bearing when grinding.
Also, take out the pinion gear before doing grinding!
Is there a difference between years on a 14 Bolt? I found one in a 1998 Chevy K3500 in my local salvage yard. Besides having to convert it to disc breaks would this work in my 1981 Jeep Scrambler. I'm also looking at doing the same TMR shave kit.
For 14bff there are different widths axles based on which generation truck it came out of.
Heating it up was smart but it was too cool and you didn't heat up the full part, typical preheat is from 500°F to 1200°F, don't go too hot around 1400°F the cast will be in a critical stage. After you heat up the part, only weld in one inch beads other wise you will have to much residual tension pulling to the weld bead. Also you can peen the bead to release some tension. Try to avoid under cut at all cost and if you make a route pass with a 50% over flow pass on both sides with a temper bead on top total of four passes you would be left with a weld with very little chance of breaking and or causing the cast to crack. Arc welding with UTP or 11018 electrodes gives you a much more ductile bead rather than mig with soild core wire and argon/co2 gass which is very brittle and has difficulty penetrating farther than 30% of the pice being welded. I know that you guys are just doing what you can with what you know and having fun but I hope I can pass on some knowledge for the next time.
was he welding with flux core? and how big was the welding wire and welder?
r6exrider please never use fluxcore, if youre gonna take the easy road at least do it right.
Jeremy looked so young 4 years ago.
Do you still shave your 14b ff axles?
Ahhhhh! -- My kingdom for a Milling Machine.
How do you fill the axle up with oil???
Gotta do dem lifts, brah.
gm makes 14 bolt semi float axles like 3/4 tons
They're junk.
Nice diff. Hell 3/16 let er self clearance.
oh baby youuuuu, youuu got what I need, but you say hes just a friend
Matt, i wanted to say 1) this video was very helpful for when i shave my 14 bolt defintly sold on the tmr over the ballistic fab cover now. 2) great video edit very entertaining and great shots.
3 is a question) What kind of camera are you using for this? the mid welding shots turned out fantastic and i would love to be able to produce similar results. ( i may even put together a few video's similar in nature to yours once time permits)
thank you in advance.
+Keith Varden thanks! I use a Canon 7D
WD40 as lube ?
And your gas mileage is 2 gallon per mile ?
You need some Riverdancers on that fire. That would put it out! ;)
I would be scared to grind up a housing :P
I read the title in Matt's voice.
Don't do this at home is right. My transmission and hydraulics instructor in our local trade school warned against rotating masses like this suddenly seizing up and doing some really crazy stuff. I am not sure if it would be enough rotating mass to spin your axle housing and pumpkin off the bench, onto the floor, across the shop and through the wall if those bearings happened to seize up. Probably not. Maybe a great episode for Myth Busters.
For what it's worth Wd-40 isn't a lubricant. I get in a pinch you can use it for just about anything tho lol...
It is not difficult to build a gantry crane.
quality video
Not all 14bolt are full float,90's heavy half ton have a 6lug 14bolt with semi float axles
+FZT Motorsports the semi floaters also have a smaller ring gear ...9.5 as compared to the FF 10.5.... off which I machined off 9.5mm to clear the housing ......
nice work! good solution
you think it is possible to modify AMC20
great video !
Whats the name again to buy this from please! Thks
Tmr customs
@@bleepinjeep thks
That's a great job
website isn't working
youl looked good in this video
Why didn't y'all jack it up so you weren't lifting off the ground?
just cuz " one 1 bug was harmed in the making of this video , viewer discretion is advised.... bug loving hippies " haha
You 2 made my back hurt lol
Rumor has it, those rags are still burning to this day. Not sure why I watched this whole video, I have no plans of shaving a 14 bolt.