The Interdependency of the Strategic Situation in the Euro-Atlantic and Indo-Pacific Areas
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- On September 27 the Polish Institute of International Affairs (PISM) hosted an open meeting with prof. Kishore Mahbubani - a Singaporean diplomat, a well-known commentator on international affairs and a distinguished fellow at the National University of Singapore. The main topic of the seminar was the interdependence of the strategic situation in the Euro-Atlantic and Indo-Pacific areas.
Spotkanie z prof. Kishorem Mahbubanim - byłym singapurskim dyplomatą, znanym komentatorem spraw międzynarodowych i wykładowcą na National University of Singapore, które odbyło się 27 września w Polskim Instytucie Spraw Międzynarodowych (#PISM). Tematem semianarium była współzależność sytuacji strategicznej w obszarze euroatlantyckim i Indo-Pacyfiku.
Thank you professor Kishore, for giving me some laughters at the humorous manner you deal with difficult questions from the Europeans. I say 'difficult' because the Europeans cannot phrase the questions clearly, very messy, difficult to understand .
Always love your intelligent speech. You spoke simple English, but very clear and can be easily understood .
You are great.
From a singaporean
People here now live under total propaganda with deep impact, so it's not a surprise they sound so confused.
Singaporean should be proud to have many great leaders.
When Prof KISHORE speaks, the best one can do, is to listen.
Nope
@@TacticalMayoCope
@@TacticalMayo Then you shouldn't be here
@@ssss8162 I'm an American🇺🇲 on a United States social Media platform. If you don't like it you can stay behind your firewall 🤣
Really, I did not expect this kind of quality from Poland's top think tank.
You mean low quality 😂😂😂😂
They acted like frustrated low iq teenages.
This is not our top.. gov funded = career/money prioritizers
This will not be the last visit of a wise man to a CIRCUS 😂 Must be incredibly entertaining to prof kishore… I definitely enjoyed every second of the video 😂
You must be huge fan of PRC like Kishore 🎉😂
@@donaldjoseph3903 joker from the circus out to entertain the audience??😂
It's just hilarious that you people think you would get an Asian century and not WW3.
@@TacticalMayo that’s because as Asian we are pragmatic peace loving people who know how to avoid wars within ourselves… on top of that, we are also well informed on the debt problem of the western countries and well aware of the fact that the west are financially incapable to start a war….😂
@@TheAlbert18361 you have to be out your mind to think you would not get a full-blown world War trying to take the place of the United States as the number one economy in the world. Everyone knows surpassing the United States is the red line that ends all life on Earth but China still wants to cross that line anyways. Being number two to the United States is not an option but Armageddon is ☢️
I've seen a lot of bad hosts, this one beat them all
She is actually quite good. She is an advocate of the neocon position, most Poles are, but she let him talk, without interrupting.
The irony of a "China expert". 😂
This organizational wasted the United Nation President Security Council Kishore Mabhubani time...
She acts like some US media host on China related topics. Think that is where she learned how to host. 😅
I think its good bc it allowed Kishore to address US/EU mainsteam media narratives on camera. Not that I think the host or audience were able to comprehend a perspective outside of their own though ..
One feature of Asia which is lacking in the West is respect for elders. Prof Mahbubani presents cogent arguments based on many years of study and experience. The emotional responses of the crowd suggesta difficult future for Poland.
and I thought Asians were the emotional ones
@@vijayarajan3276 . Generally speaking, you are right about some Asians, but not so in areas where they are not "talkative" (seemingly introverted), like Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans, but perhaps can be accorded to less communicative ability.
A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE fan of the great Kishore Mahbubani!!!
it's nice that Kishore Mahbubani comes to make a speech to the kindergarten teacher
😂😂😂😂😂
Kishore, a big thank you for educating the Europeans, well done! They hold such a narrow view of the world.
She is trying so hard to demonize China for not taking the European side, but he reasons with the learnings of ASEAN and China towards peace in the region. She still came off frustrated.
The moment you challenged the United States for its number one spot in the world you have doomed humanity ☢️
A rude moderator indeed by finishing the session and saying she didn't agree with her guest
When we invite a guest to hear his opinion we should take this opportunity to learn his perspective. We can disagree but we should take the most from it. Dear PISM learn from this brutal experience - you were faced with reality, deal with it.
Actually the Poles were very polite. They let Mahbubani talk and didn't interrupt him. This is remarkable considering that their views are totally in the opposite of Mahbubani's. If this had been held in US on a talk show, Mahbubani would not have been able to talk for 10seconds without being interrupted.
The interviewer should just interview herself if she just wants to hear her own opinions.
it's too painful to listen to her opinions. I have stopped watching the whole interview.
@@Ra-mx4bo
I stayed to get a feel of the calibre and psyche of the Polish elite.
It is not positive.
These guys are both ignorant and arrogant. A bad combination.
At the end she literally said to prof. Kishore : "I mostly do not agree of your thoughts" 🤣😵 she didn't even try to learn the nuance, rationality and objectivity Kishore had been sharing for the sake of europe
Sorry! I did finish the interviewed with a special guest Prof. Mahbubani. At the end the host said rudely aid and she said she didn't agree with Mahbubani. That's fine but she continued it hard for Poland to adopt and hard to change. That's fine go back the way you want as usual follow the U.S. rules and see what happen to Germany, the two Nort Stream pipelines have been destroyed by U.S. Now, the German's economy is in trouble for many years to come. But you don't have right to tell India, China or Asean countries to agree with EU with on the Ukraine war.
The EU seems unrealistic, confused, and uncomfortable, which unfortunately dims its future outlook.
Dims all of humanities outlook ☢️
@@TacticalMayoonly Erope.
@@NoohCee like I said it dims humanities outlook.
Europe is so doomed. First time i visited Asia back in 2006 and it was shocking to realize how slow, narrow-minded and actually "dead". Europe is. Happy that I managed to set up a life in Asia. Cordial, hard-working,and pragmatic people
China is doomed ☢️
Have you been to Indonesia ??
@@sarahcesar5813 No, I have not unfortunately. I hear is a very dynamic, up and coming country.
@@gritnltw
I hope you have a chance to visit Indonesia sometime in the future. GBU 🙏
MR. KESHOR IS EXCELENTLY AND FANTASTICALLY WELL EXPLAINED AND THINKS TRUTHFULLY ON A SUPER HIGH LEVEL.
Thanks to the gentleman giving a lesson to the polish girl.
😂😂😂😂😂
The moderator should look back at Minsk agreement before asking why Russia invade Ukraine.
This is the red lines of Russia.
13:36
Yes agree. Their eyes blinded by their own propaganda
Russia invaded Ukraine
It doesn't matter. Russia is a weak and crumbling state.
Looks like a father struggling to tell his teenage kid how to survive in this complicated world and deal with problems pragmatically so that doesn't have to pay a hefty price to learn.
No it's the West letting you know you have only two options. So you better get in line or all hell will break loose ☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️
More like an uncle stealing niece's weekly allowance and promote his book.
Kishore is a China compromised diplomat. Kishore what did China offer you? more book sales, shares of Alibaba taken from Jack Ma, or something worse?
@@bobhan6395, YOU MUST BE A US PAID TROLL, RIGHT?
Kishore is great....I know how deeply entrenched the Polish are within the Anglo sphere of thought and it makes it extra interesting he shares his perspectives here
Prof Mabhubani one of the greatest scholars
Glad to see Kishore traveling all the way to Europe and making connections there.
I hear only pessimism out of the audience. My impression is the Poles is incapable of thinking ina world where the West is no longer dominant. Poles are living in the 1990's.
Totally agree with your assessments.
Professor Kishore really works very hard for PRC.. ❤😊🎉
they live in a way that i did when i was young and loved watching Hollywood movies from john wayne to superman..., and thought that the USA was sent by god to save the world...
@@donaldjoseph3903Why would he work for Europeans who are fascist warmongers and love to kill one another in Ukraine.
@@donaldjoseph3903 Unable to accept reality??
Prof Mahbubani is a gem. So eloquent and poignant base on facts & statistics ✅👍🤝.
About d Russian Ukrainian conflict, the Poles are quite selective n chosed to ignore certain things..like persecution of Russian Ukrainians, NATO eastward expansion, etc..haha
Yes so true. They are influenced by the not elected Brussels “leaders” and all the propaganda from their mass lying media 😮
what to expect from a vassal state 😂
Wow. The world is so diversed. Poland keeps your idealism! Don’t change! Would like to see this social experiment turning out in 10 years.
There isn't 10 years left.
Two world wars started in Europe, hope they will change and not start the third one 😅
Have to say it’s a very strange format, where the host has the final say. Isn’t it typical to give your guests the final word? Sounds to me like you only want to have someone to say things that you want to have validated.
Europe used to be allies of USA because in the past they jointed the raids and then they got to share
plenty of the spoilts. This time they will soon wake up to the fact that they have to put in a lot of efforts,often to Europe's detriment,but no spoilts to share .Example : the Ukraine conflifict.
Europe will find itself in many more situations like Ukraine where it had to sacrifice itself for US's well being
This is a very good dialogue. The mentalities are so different and they are adversarial, but I hope some of the points Mahbubani was making got through. Mahbubani once made an insightful observation: Everyone was predicting that Europe's past would be Asia's future, meaning that Europe have achieved peace while Asia would be like the pre-war Europe with wars breaking out of all over. Then he said, yet the guns are silent in Asia. And now wars are breaking out in Europe.
Mahbubani was very patient and tried his best to avoid talking about Ukraine, but even he lost some patience: Europe, do whatever you want, but face and accept the consequences. Poland isn't facing the consequences. Ukraine is.
You have to give it to Kishore on how to deal with ignorant & arrogant people.
Prof Kishore should be more blunt to his audience. But yes, he is great.
His training is in diplomacy. Notice that he avoids the most explosive issue of the Ukrainian war while the host kept goading him.
If this is the quality of a Polish scholar no wonder Europea is in such a bad situation! Clouded and confused thinking!
These people are brainwashed 😂😅
That's why still a lapdog !
That's why Russia is taking Europe for a spank
It's an example of what propaganda does to people, the difference between reality and the nonsense being spread is too big, so people have to make an effort to believe in it. This is the result.
@@svenhanson398 . 💯
Kishore: Ascended master in geopolitical reality.
The rest in the video: Naive hordes of children thinking Santa Claus exists and the world is always Garden of Eden.
This Polish woman is not the Interviewer or Moderator, she is the Judge
The quality of this judge is.......
Sure, she is debating Mahbubbani and allows him to answer. She is adversarial, but that clarifies the issues. She is a very good interviewer.
Remember, she is a China Expert but without much knowledge of China !!!...So she was trying to gain as much information from Kishore now by taking all the time asking questions than presenting to the floor.
Puking pabulum@@yingzhang7637
She is biased opinionated and her mind is fixed.
wow as I continue to listen to this I find that the Polish did not invite Kishore for a talk, this was more of an lecture, or an ambush.
There are many ppl in PL, who think rather like Prof. KM, than like these naive "scientists" from PISM.
After the event in Smoleńsk in 2010, the Poles played a weird game of dubious pro-propaganda with the US EU and Russian, it is very weird game, and you only need to look at Ukraine now. A jungle world of bio and nuke, drones and missiles ... but they survived the Hitler Stalin 6-years war and the 40-years cold war , so this was ment to be so.
Is she representative of Polish? She is like locked up in a her own world!
This woman calls herself a 'China Expert'😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 She does all her 'research' on Sky News!😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
A Chinese expert claims that she did not have access to Chinese information 😅 Well… Good luck Poland
😂😂😂😂
@akuyangbenar, She goes to bed with Gordon Cheng... that's why she is a China expert!😂
@kennedy6618 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Oh my goodness I just can't stop laughing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's truly a good one👍👍👍
Prof Mahbubani, a stumbling Chinese economy is likely to enjoy a US$1 trillion trade surplus in 2023, not only doubled the pre pandemic 2019 level but larger than Poland's entire GDP!
Conclusion to be drawn, the “moderator” n those who asked the questions are living under a dome, totally divorced from the realities 😢😢😢
She's not living under a dome the US will stay number one or it's going to be bad☢️
are these people supposed to the elites of Poland? I will be very surprised if yes. oh my...unbelievable... like professors talking to high school kids
Pls don’t insult high school students intelligence…. My nieces are definitely far more intelligent than those polish professors….
They are not elites but that profesor is a clown 🤡
These people are not the elites of PL, but the polish elites present the same school of thought unfortunately. A year ago if someone said in a debate in Poland that the article 5 of NATO doesn't work "automatically" and that we may end up in a solo fight it was deemed by majority that saying things like that is undermining of NATO and pro-Russian - and that's only one example of naivety, there's ton of more. Foreigners must understand that our political system, political parties have roots in the Solidarity movement - people ruling our country are simple workers who didn't have much sources of information for majority of their lifetime, their view of the West is idealistic because they hated the Soviet Bloc, therefore it is very hard for them to crush the old view on the West inside their heads.
High school?! Elementary at best!
@@kamillencki1557 . Thanks for the info, though I question how it can be still true after so many years since the Solidarity Movement?
You ask why PolandPISM has only 3.2 subscribers and an international event featuring the knowledgeable Kishore Mahbubani can only attract 3.2 k views after 3 weeks on UA-cam ?
Just listen to the naive comments and accusations thrown by this Polish "China expert" at Prof. Mahbubani !
The professor is a patient gentleman who suffer fools!
The aggression of the Polish lady is surprising. My way or the highway. Financed by US I suppose?
Professor Mahbubani, thank you for shining your thoughts on the global realities any country should be thinking about. This is the first time I have witnessed a forum where the professor faces European-centric thinking, which is most interesting. He did an amazing job!
this is entertaining，i guess Kishore has seen it all
No wonder why Poland will never get out of their own mess
Prof is a brave man. The group is so brain-locked.. Totally brain washed, and cannot even pause, think and reconsider alternative view points.
This woman is definitely not a China expert as she claimed herself to be. Every word out of her mouth is cringey.
Especially when she was dismissive of the points made by the Professor as "whataboutism" , which is frankly insulting.
I have to say most of the Polish people have the thinking of "Europ's problem is the world's problem, the world's problem is not Europe's problem". They only remember how bad they were treated by the Russian or German, but always fail to remember how bad they treated other people when they together with the Lithuanian were running the show.
Poland have experienced a complicated Karma ! As a christian country , she has mistreated on its territory the jews from whom Christ originates ! She was erased as a state during 39-45 from the european map , her intelligencia was killed in 1939 after Hitler ‘s invasion and her land desacrated by squalid concentration camps ! Europe is an idiotic victim of a war someone else created against her will, for Ukraine should have remained neutral and accepted , as concluded during the Minsk accord ,to grant the autonomy to the Domblast region ! Putin is doing what Kennedy was ready to do to Cuba , had the russian misiles not been dismantled in 1962 ! Ukraine choosed to listen to the foolish proposition conveyed by Boris Johnson not to negociate the early end of the war ! Europe has become a vassal of the US ! , it has maybe always been ? She will have to pay for prevaricating particularly Africa !
Ah yes, the horrible Commonwealth. So horrible that it attracted jews fleeing persecution in the western Europe at the time. And today, most if not all countries around PL, still prefer it over RU and DE.
Could u name them?
Those people
@@tomaszchojna4145 andrij and natasha
The PISM speakers state their view of Europe, Asia and Global issues. Kishore state his view of Europe issues as an outsider with some facts and examples, emphasizing pragmatic "national interests". There is cognitive dissonance between the two approaches and conclusions. The audience can weight the evidence and decide for themselves.
Oh gosh! She is all over and very confusing! I believed, she has confused Prof. Mahbubani with her questions. It seems like, she is begging for a solutions on the Ukrainian war and blaming China standing with Russia.
China and Asians are far too advanced for this lady to handle.
Ha ha ha!
Is Poland government have fire wall in there country that's why she have so little knowledge of other territories?
LOL eating dogs🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TacticalMayoLOL eating frogs snails foul smelling moldy cheese
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@willwillque8791 that's what i was thinking, but i think its an internal fire wall from years of cultural indoctrination. Poland is in the garden after all not the jungle or so she believes.
Summery of this conversation.
Poland - EU we won't change or adjust with changing world order & we would go to war to prevent it.
Most asian countries want to adjust with changing world order & don't want to fight war.
You understand what you said?
If China surpasses the United States as the number one economy in the world you will get way, way more than just a war.
Excellent analysis by Mr Mahbubani.
A delight to hear such an erudite scholar and veteran diplomat.
Kudos
This is the first time I listen to Polish people talk that much. I found the Polish are lovely people but it is very dangerous when it comes to Geopolitics. The Polish stand firm to China but on the other hand, the richest CEOs like Elon Musk, Tim Cook and CEO of Boeing are lining up to go to China. Why they are going to China and not Poland, think about it my friend
It's constant EASY for the Europeans to forgive and forget about their own Violences to all other countries!! 😮😮😮
Against which Asian country was Poland violent exactly?
@@andrew.r.lukasikHe said Europeans, that includes UK, France, etc. Also, He said "other countries", not limited in Asia. 😅
Russia is not the Agressor , US/NATO/Ukraine had been threatening/provocating Russia for a long
time
Even a wiseman cannot move sway this group of hot-headed teenagers. How sad
Trade is the glue and keeps the peace , New Zealand does well in this respect.
Another great performance by Prof. Kishore. The audience does not understand meaning of looking into geopolitics & being utterly pragmatic. Firstly Poland is not Ukraine because is Poland is already under US nuclear protection umbrella - NATO, and economically part of EU, but is border & very near Russia - that's the Poland's geopolitics reality, not other Asian countries.
To be pragmatic for Poland, may further invest in military strength as "porcupine" that deters anyone, including Russia to try attack. That's just as tiny countries in dangerous regions like Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Israel & etc had to do. But also to improve the economic performance, and then become a good reason for West to project (like Taiwan with semi-conductor for USA to protect for their own self interests.) Try to look beyond academic levels but realism and pragmatism to situations.
I don't think US will intervene if war breaks out because of Taiwan declaring independence; actually, US is already moving the chip making capacity out from Taiwan
Keshore's wisdoms are totally wasted on those people. They braught him here to give him a lecture 😅
I just wish all of you would leave UA-cam because UA-cam is American 🇺🇲
Without us, there will be no UA-cam!
The moderator is another typical Westerner who has chosen to be half blind as they watch and read only half the story. The world needs more open-minded people.
thank you prof mabubhani for being FRANK even in poland...for frankness is too rare and SO DIRE NEEDED IN THIS CONVOLUTED WORLD..a friend today is a foe tomorrow is a friend again ......WE IMAGINE AND CREATE OURSELVES🥰..DESIRE 💝 & PEACE
Did she said she is a Chinese Expert. From reading CNN. Lol
The comments from the interviewer and the crowd were disappointingly shallow and very judgmental. They demonstrated a clear example of group think.
Looks like these people have travel in a time machine and just come back from different time it is very entertaining now I know what expert are like
It's delightful to hear Kishore 's latest speech and thoughts
Amazing that a moderator has no self insight that she seemed to be singing from the US state department hymn sheet along with the rest of her choir
33:58 Whataboutism... clearly is from discussion with people without children. If you do not practice fairness in dealing with your kids, you will have no end to the conflict...
Indeed whataboutism is at the core of any "rule based order". The rules are called rules because they apply to everyone or none.
One advice to the host, go back to school do more home work!
The context some foreigners might lack while listening to it is, that Poland has Just gone through ± 200 years of brutal occupation/hard dependency and it DID affect the way the people here see the world. This is one of the differences between the Eastern and Western Europe that might not be very well visable for the people from (for example) Asia at first.
Also, as a Pole, I just wanted to let you know that luckily PISM does not represent all of the polish academia nor the strategic thought. Luckily. And hopefully, this - idealistic - thinking will keep vanishing as it is right now.
The interviewer from the Polish Institute is narrow minded and has little sense of reasoning, being swept by the nerd mentality. Such a waste of time talking with her.
A kindergarten student trying to teach a professor how to teach his student.. What a joke..
i truly hope this is not the true representation of the polish minds. it's embarrassing even for an outsider like me to realise their level of thinking. growing up, i thought the europeans were supposed to be more advanced than us, more intelligent than us...
A great lesson for this lady ,I hope she gets it .
Clearly not as demonstrated in her summation of this interview. She is too set and brainwashed in her thinking and I doubt she will ever changed.
She didn't get it. 😅
Please do not put all Poles in one basket. In our country, citizens have a better level of knowledge than some institutions. I have friends who would conduct these conversations better than this Lady. Best regards to everyone, Tomasz from Poland.
For all our sake, I certainly hope that you are correct.
Glad to hear that! The ideological bias from the moderator and the audience is concerning.
Check out Strategy&Future think tank. Recently They have change a lot in regards to geopolitical conversations in Poland.
Do we remember the meetings in Germany which promised NO expansion of NATO east of Germany, and the killing of Russians in the East of Ukraine?
Omg. There is no hope for this woman.
1. If the UN charter as said by the Polish audience was forceable, the killing in the east of Russian Ukrainian before the war which was brutal and inhuman, would be stopped. Instead, it continued until Russia sent army to. What are your all positions to those killings to the east Ukrainians before the war by West Ukrainians?
2. Do your country blame for Isreal for invading and killing Gaza Palestinian for decades? What are your positions on that?
Excellent questions, but you’ll only get deathly silence in return….
Such a sober thought. A great example of clear geopolitical thinking.
She asked sooo many questions! Let him answer her questions one at a time ! The worst interviewer
Widać że pism jest państwowy, jakość poczty polskej
Can be smart and don’t act smart . Professor Kishore is wise man😅
The problem with Europe is Act smart but not smart.
Professor Kishore Mahbubani Is A 21st Century Hero 🌏✌️
Does Justyna dare to question, doubted or finding the information about who exploded Nordstream 2 pipeline at her doorstep than the information sought, which was 6600km away in China. Just curious!
No that will make Justyna’s head explode
Reminds me of my teenage son. Everything is black and white, right or wrong (and of course, most of the time he is the right one😂). I have been trying to educate him otherwise, but at least I know he is a 10th grader. Well, at least now I know this teenage mentality can extend well beyond 30 or even 40 years old. No wonder Kishore said the Europeans have been living in their own garden.
Professor Kishore rest stop in a community of the land of tormented young soul of Po.
The moderator kept pushing her own bias agenda and small understanding of the world on the guest speaker. Sadly it seems that the audience only wants to listen to what they want to hear.
After Professor Mahbubani diplomatic explanation that the Iraq war is also an illegal war committed by US and UK, she still didn't get it and yet keep going on about Russian aggression but avoid to address the Iraq war
I feel sorry for Prof for being there. Even more sorry for the Polish for not seeing a biggger picture.
If polish wants to keep fighting rather than collaborating, let it be so.
Your guys are too harsh on the hosts, not just the lady. At least they invited Kishore to speak. That is Hope.
😂 good point!
Based on the conversation between the lady and Professor Kishore, in my opinion the lady is lacking of world events and the happenings in other parts of the world! She is very naive! It is just like a primary school student asking a Professor!
She is not prepared!
Poland hasn't learned her lesson yet after, as the host said in closing, being erased from world map... Poland still lends herself to be mercilessly used by the Anglo Saxon powers as their battering ram against Russia instead of being pragmatic in the shadow of great power conflict. If only the audience and host listened more careful to what Prof. Kishore said in the 90 mins, if only...
31:50 She claimed herself as a Chinese expert ? Wow....talk about being presumptuous.
Haha. The “moderator” speaking for the propagandists mass media 😅
Yeah, this is why this is a good interview because it allows Mahbubani to politely but firmly rebut the propaganda.
I hope we all understand how much generalization is in all those „we in Poland” - debate is everything but unanimous.
Ai.
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The Poles start with conclusions, and then work backwards to arrive at the facts😅
The host is mired in western prejudices. Almost to borderline racism!
"What about ism" as used by the host is a way of saying "Don't do what I did, just do what I tell you to do". She complains about getting information from China but has she taken the trouble to learn Chinese. I'm almost sure she'd have less problems in getting information from and on China. In any case if she insist on English she'll get the Anglo-Saxon view!
Indo-Pacific???
Where is Asia?
Asian-Pacific, Indo doesn't matter.
That is a termin used since 1947, for the US army local command during Korean War and Vietnam War. Trump reused it in 2016, but opted for trade War, and anti economic biological agent with catastrophic results. Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) 1st January 1947 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_combatant_command
If the USA aka IOU-country uses it, it means it is 💩.
H-India is worth nothing in the world-stage.
It cant even feed their population.
So did the USA aka IOU-country, won the Korean-War, the Vietnam-war and the trade-war???
There you go, like Mao Zedong said, the USA is a paper-🐱.
Closed minds are hard to pry open... thank you Prof. Kishore for always trying
Does the moderator even know her role? 😂