BAC 1-11. Part Two - To African Skies

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  • Опубліковано 1 гру 2024

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  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 2 роки тому +4

    That water injection on takeoff really unleashes mighty black clouds lol

  • @peterwhitaker4038
    @peterwhitaker4038 3 роки тому +3

    i was 16 yrs age in 1970. never flown before. my mates got me to go with them to dusseldorf from Liverpool to watch Everton F.C. play moenchengladbach in European cup. (£20 return with match ticket and hotel for 1 night!!). never forgot that first flight Dan-Air BAC 1-11 Aircraft. wow it shot down the runway at speke airport (now John Lennon) and climbed so rapidly. i couldn't believe we were in Germany in an hour and a bit. flown many times since (Freddie Laker DC 10 Skytrain MAN-NYORK) but memories always with me of that first flight. love this Aircraft and love this video.

  • @udospickermann9518
    @udospickermann9518 2 роки тому +1

    Mit der BAC 1-11 bin ich einmal in den neunziger Jahren von Hamburg nach London geflogen und mit diesem Video werden die Erinnerungen wach.

  • @jayvanasten6238
    @jayvanasten6238 2 роки тому +2

    LOL 15:14 ''Heading for South Africa'' ............It will not have escaped anyones attention around London (and most likely far beyond)
    I have a huge collection of 1/500 aircraft scale models..........today around 530 units...(only jets)
    Of-course the BAC 1-11 is also present with multiple copies of 200, 400 and 500 series.......
    Great aircraft, and above all Fantastic video!!! Thnx!!!

  • @doveronefoxtrot4417
    @doveronefoxtrot4417 6 років тому +18

    I'm so thankful that we have this footage. The master blaster ! The original Pocket Rocket ! Thanks Robin. she was such an elegant looking jet, little has been produced since that looks so graceful.

  • @moriver3857
    @moriver3857 5 років тому +7

    I worked on them in the states converting them to corporate airplanes back in the mid eighties and they were nice. If they were to be reborn with a modern engine, it would make a hell of a VIP airplane. So much room than a G5 and Callenger put together. I loved starting them for tha unique engine start howl. Great memories. Thanks for uploading.

  • @si2u263
    @si2u263 Рік тому

    Great video clips of this classic bird.
    I flew back from Malaga - Gatwick (Dan Air) in 1981.
    The Captain allowed my brother and I to visit the flight deck.
    We were up there for well over an hour.
    They had us changing bulbs, and even let us slightly turn the yolk..gosh you could never get that now.
    Great memories ❤
    Outbound to Malaga was on a Dan Air B727.

  • @fredflintstone747
    @fredflintstone747 4 роки тому +4

    Bac 1-11/Rolls Royce Spey... Love the noice/Love the smoke .... Just like a classic Rock Band!

  • @craigdoran6811
    @craigdoran6811 6 років тому +9

    Miss 1-11s more than any aircraft really because they were so common yet so wickedly loud. Birmingham airport was a fabulous place to see these. I live a few miles away and without fail every morning and evening rush hours it felt like there was earthquakes everytime one motored off down the runway. Miss it so much

    • @josephlambe2796
      @josephlambe2796 2 роки тому +1

      So was Glasgow airport….BEA and British Caledonian

    • @stupididiot6116
      @stupididiot6116 Рік тому +1

      Lived with my parents in tile cross in Birmingham in the late 70’s/ early 80’s close to Birmingham’s runway .These and to a slightly lesser extent viscounts used to shake the house regularly when taking off ! …..great times for me as a young plane spotter 🥰

  • @robworsencroft8416
    @robworsencroft8416 4 роки тому +5

    Always sounded like a fighter with lots of windows - great.

  • @UdjatPictures
    @UdjatPictures 4 роки тому +3

    Very nice shots. Thank you very much for posting and sharing.
    In 2001 I flew in Egypt with a ROM-BAC 1-11 on a local flight. I got some video recordings out of the window. This aircraft was taken out of service the same year and scrapped in 2003 - a great pity. I can still remember them very well and am now happy to see the whole thing from a different perspective.

  • @Ampex196
    @Ampex196 3 роки тому +2

    They were lovely. Newcastle to Gatwick in 37 mins. sticks in my mind.
    The engine spool up 'howl' brings back so many memories.

  • @signalorangers2k
    @signalorangers2k 5 років тому +15

    Noisy and dirty too. Love it!

  • @GOLTURBO555
    @GOLTURBO555 5 років тому +4

    Awesome! And loud! Great times...

  • @colh2726
    @colh2726 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video Robin. I've got several years of great memories of BCAL’s & Dan Air’s BAC 1-11s at Newcastle during the 70/80s. Even now on video the engine “start-ups” sound great.

  • @40655
    @40655 3 роки тому +2

    Great footage!

  • @vaughanlockett658
    @vaughanlockett658 4 роки тому +2

    Turned them around at Manchester my Dad worked on them at Dan air and BAE for 30 years Miss that start up with the CSDS whining . Great aircraft solid .

  • @keithburton9816
    @keithburton9816 5 років тому +3

    Excellent noisy memories Robin.

  • @abelgnecco7923
    @abelgnecco7923 5 років тому +6

    in AEP in Buenos Aires Austral Lineas Aereas used the 1-11s, in the 80s and 90s, here they did not use hush kits, really miss that loud noise and smokey take offs

  • @dominiquestephenson195
    @dominiquestephenson195 4 роки тому +2

    Used to fly on LACSA’s BAC-111 from Grand Cayman in the mid 70’s. Later Cayman Airways leased the plane. Always used the rear stairs in the Caribbean where they had few elevated gates. You could hear the rumble across the island when she took off. Nice plane, certainly wasn’t my favorite at the time (BWIA’s L1011 and Pan Am’s 707 were pretty impressive to this 9 year old). Used to fly all over the Caribbean, South America, Miami and London with my mum who owned a jewelry business.
    My mum was briefly involved with a Caymanian group flying a DC-3 between Caribbean islands with plans to expand as “Red Carpet Airlines”. I spent a summer flying along helping to load & unload pigs, water, food, all types of freight. It was a blast. We moved to the USA in 78 but I understand that airline is still flying but under a different name. The DC-3 can fly forever!

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Absolutely fantastic 👏

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Lovely to see the old footage

  • @allancopland1768
    @allancopland1768 2 роки тому

    I travellled back and forth from Glasgow to Gatwick quite a bit on B-Cal's 1-11's. I really liked the 1-11. A good old bird.

  • @rutherfojr
    @rutherfojr 5 років тому +3

    Flew in one to Pisa. Such a cosy and cofident aircraft. They were lovely planes surprised they didn't sell more
    But they were up against the Caravelle the 737 the trident the Comet and the 727 as well as the dc-9 so was a tough market. But by far the nicest plane to be a passenger in. Although it was an airliner It flew more like an executive jet very nifty and sliced through the air not much noise always felt solid and had plenty of power

  • @schnellguy
    @schnellguy 6 років тому +4

    Outstanding!

  • @flymajj
    @flymajj 7 років тому +6

    Absolutely priceless footage. thanks so much for sharing all this.

    • @PHAER
      @PHAER 6 років тому +2

      Priceless is the exact word!!!

  • @Coppermiltac
    @Coppermiltac 8 років тому +3

    Fantastic! Thanks for having presence of mond to capture these movements and for compiling/posting the video.Brings it all back, seems such a short time ago...

  • @Coppermiltac
    @Coppermiltac 8 років тому +3

    Priceless footage again Robin, thanks!

  • @Shamrock100
    @Shamrock100 8 років тому +3

    Excellent material.

  • @ratbat6450
    @ratbat6450 5 років тому +2

    Nice good looking jet for new airline service

  • @Ikiribom
    @Ikiribom 6 років тому +5

    These Bac 1 -11 jets spent another 10 yrs from the late 80’s to the 90’s in Nigeria as the work horse of the now defunct Okada airlines. (Google okada airlines).
    They appear to have been built like tanks as I flew them as a passenger regularly, in various phases of maintenance, sometimes with holes under their wings!
    You definitely knew there was one about with all that noise and smoke!!

    • @MrCyberboi
      @MrCyberboi 5 років тому

      Yeah, Flew them with Hold Trade 1993/1994.... a tire went flat after landing during taxi in Lagos

  • @LVCHO07
    @LVCHO07 8 років тому +3

    I want them back! Thank you so so mucho for sharing this beauty, i never saw them live because their retirement was the same year where i born so... Austral Lineas Aereas has got a lot of them and they are just a dream for me, just think on that lovely smoky and loudy plane that will never go back. If i get lucky i still can see some Fokker F-28, they have almost the same sound, but they are only two here now and they will go soon, congrats for the video.

  • @MattsAviationChannel
    @MattsAviationChannel 6 років тому +3

    Good old footage and sound from the BAC 1-11! I loved Dan-air, sad to see them scrapped. But it is great to see some in action here!

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Thank you 👍 😊

  • @candlishtruckvids2272
    @candlishtruckvids2272 8 років тому +2

    Fantastic Videos Robin bringing back so many memories I can remember near enough every reg popping up on camera lol, I used to spend my life down the airport as a kid in 90's used to live in Eastwood and riding on down on my bike, superb videos thanks for putting them up !

  • @thiagofigueiredo22
    @thiagofigueiredo22 5 років тому +5

    I love the aircraft 😭😭😭

  • @polduseri909
    @polduseri909 6 років тому +3

    The 475 launch customer was the Peruvian airline Faucett (on that time the 2nd oldest airline in the World after KLM, now out of service) Still remember those beautiful airplanes and the powerful noise.

  • @iFlyTheWorld
    @iFlyTheWorld 3 роки тому +1

    I recall seeing Air Pacific (Fiji) had 1-11’s in the early 1970’s too.

  • @seanlatimer5871
    @seanlatimer5871 8 років тому +3

    Great footage

  • @richschindler8731
    @richschindler8731 7 років тому +3

    Fantastic video. Now they were real airplanes. Loud, smokey, a bit underpowered, but a good ole bird. I have a deep love for this aircraft as I flew one for a few years in the corporate configuration. Sad to say, it's long gone now.

  • @Tillerman56
    @Tillerman56 8 років тому +5

    Good to hear that start-up whine again.

  • @rodjamesranger7537
    @rodjamesranger7537 8 років тому +1

    Been waiting for this! thank you Robin! excellent work mate.

  • @sharonhopton5685
    @sharonhopton5685 4 роки тому +2

    The first BAC 1-11 I flew in was in 1967 on a British Eagle Airplane.

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    I'm in tears 😢

  • @Altenholz
    @Altenholz 7 років тому +7

    Real airliners in the classic meaning!

  • @dippin1523
    @dippin1523 5 років тому +7

    they were loud as hell

  • @arthurgenson9917
    @arthurgenson9917 4 роки тому +1

    This is the type of aircraft that i'm assigned as a trainee of PAL way back 1979 we're taught how to change tire ,Oxygen Tank , cleaning wing tank. this is noisy jet.

  • @colettewelch9523
    @colettewelch9523 4 роки тому +1

    Flew in the USA on Mohawk Airlines - Upstate NY. Buffalo > Rochester > Syracuse > Albany > Boston. Great aircraft.

  • @iandavis5739
    @iandavis5739 7 років тому +10

    Fantastic visual document of a superb aircraft. Great upload. Thanks. Anyone who whines and moans about aircraft noise these days, hasn't got a clue.

  • @justplanenuts5541
    @justplanenuts5541 3 роки тому +1

    One aircraft I really wish I had got to see flying.

  • @schnellguy
    @schnellguy 6 років тому +6

    Lots of smoke and nose,thats the way i like it!

    • @wolfgangdoering5802
      @wolfgangdoering5802 4 роки тому

      Very impressive these bird were. However all ends with inventions.

  • @jackyclaiborne2142
    @jackyclaiborne2142 6 років тому +3

    This aircraft resembles a DC-9. The port and starboard engines are mounted on the aft end of the fuselage. If you're seated in the last three rows of a DC-9 you get virtually the same noise and vibration that you get in most regional turboprop airliners, when the engines are fully revved up. .

  • @ZKaviation
    @ZKaviation 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for Part 1 and 2, and thanks for the warning about the noise!
    The BAC 1-11 lost out to the Boeing 737-200 in New Zealand so its nice to see and hear what it was like.

  • @ozzy8286
    @ozzy8286 3 роки тому +1

    How i miss the beastie!

  • @dippin1523
    @dippin1523 7 років тому +2

    perfect. Thats what is all about.

  • @flightlinevr6302
    @flightlinevr6302 3 роки тому +1

    Why didn't they develop a RR Tay conversion kit in the 80s, the 1-11 could have lasted the whole 90s?

  • @RedArrow73
    @RedArrow73 4 роки тому +2

    So why does the first jet look like it's spitting raw fuel out both exhausts?

    • @robinpinnock2678
      @robinpinnock2678  4 роки тому +4

      Possibly connected with the water injection system, which also increases smoke.

  • @GabrielViana-mg3vh
    @GabrielViana-mg3vh 4 роки тому +2

    They look so modern, also sad to seem them there.

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Those mighty spey engines

  • @PeterNGloor
    @PeterNGloor 4 роки тому +1

    those hush kits seem to be of little use

  • @pugle1
    @pugle1 5 років тому +4

    Makes me sad to see them in the "grave yard" These were a childhood friend (used to fly over my house several times a day on approach to 24L CYYZ). Are there any left flying?

    • @isaacbarrock8709
      @isaacbarrock8709 3 роки тому

      Retired totally. 😢

    • @pugle1
      @pugle1 3 роки тому +1

      @@isaacbarrock8709 That makes me sad. I can still remember that iconic "throttling down" sound they made as they were on landing approach usually just around gear extension time. Nothing else sounded like them.

    • @isaacbarrock8709
      @isaacbarrock8709 3 роки тому

      @@pugle1 yeah man, to be fair I've never got to see these planes in real life. Always wanted to know whether it was actually louder than a 727.

    • @pugle1
      @pugle1 3 роки тому

      @@isaacbarrock8709 Maybe not louder, but I'd say at least as loud. I've only ever seen a few on taxi / take-off, but mostly on approach to CYYZ over my house... about 1500 feet up. But let me tell you, they made the most unique sound when they'd throttle back to slow down for gear extension. The sounds those engines made as they'd spool down to flight idle could only come from that plane. I always knew that it was a BAC 1-11 without even having to look. Another beauty was the Vickers VC-10. Loved that one too.

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 Рік тому

    And i thought old Tupolevs were smoky!! 😂

  • @ullahelwegrothe2024
    @ullahelwegrothe2024 3 роки тому

    OMG ! All that black smoke from the engines in 1994 ..;0((
    Why ? Are the engines so old ? Or what was the reason for that...?

  • @ezragonzalez8936
    @ezragonzalez8936 3 роки тому

    that a bird puts some loud ruckus ! lol was it completely retired in 2011 or some left flying???

  • @ahhcaffeine9948
    @ahhcaffeine9948 6 років тому +2

    Should make a smoke check xD

  • @ahirschfeld1974
    @ahirschfeld1974 3 роки тому +4

    Love the roar and noise of those RR's. This video would have Greta Thunberg crying a small river!

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Go girl go 🙈😓

  • @mdleweight
    @mdleweight 7 років тому +1

    This was a notoriously difficult aircraft to fly, according to pilots of the day. It was unstable and a poor glider for approaches. I was on one that hit a wing vortex from a 747 coming into O'Hare. We almost did a full 360 roll.

    • @richschindler8731
      @richschindler8731 7 років тому +2

      Mark Kortum not too sure about being difficult to fly. I flew one for a few years and it was a dream to fly. I loved it. Mine was in corporate config if that made any difference. Yes, your correct about not being great as a glider. Mine was N5034, VR-BHS, N333GB. Same ship.

    • @1bobhodgson
      @1bobhodgson 6 років тому +4

      "Notoriously difficult"?? I flew 1-11 400s and 500s for 15 years and thought they were lovely! The instrumentation and flight directors (Collins and Smiths) were basic by today's standards (no glass screens), so you had to do a bit of thinking and not just 'follow the magenta line'. You also had to keep the speed right on approach, but the Spey responded well. As for gliding, I never flew one with less than one engine working, but its drag was about normal for a jet so we assumed it would glide pretty well clean, at the right speed (about 250kts IAS I think).

    • @ozzy8286
      @ozzy8286 3 роки тому +1

      @@1bobhodgson I believe it was a real pilots aircraft. First flight of ever took was on a BCal BAC 1-11. G-AWYV

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    So sad, this is our history 😢

  • @charlesdolan217
    @charlesdolan217 4 роки тому +1

    The most efficient means designed by man to convert fossil fuel to noise.

  • @Wild_Duck19
    @Wild_Duck19 5 років тому +1

    This is a Romanian aircraft, who is born under communism. It's sadly because it isn't produced on advanced type of this early model. I believe Romanians people must be governed with iron hand to be a productive country. Thank a lot because you appreciate ROMBAC 1-11!

    • @kostat5591
      @kostat5591 5 років тому +5

      It's a British aircraft. When they stopped production in the UK it was later continued in Romania adding on ROM before BAC. It's a pity the Romanian government doesn't produce it these days with modern cockpit and engines. It could sell very well and fill the gap for the Boeing 717 / MD-95 and Fokker 100.

  • @jornalnumero1
    @jornalnumero1 5 років тому +1

    1:54 HOLY JESUS! Trump like a wall... wall of SMOOKE!
    * "Global warming is a Chinese invention!" Donald Trump

  • @NeedtoSpeak
    @NeedtoSpeak Рік тому

    The 1-11s were the most unreliable aircraft of their time. The DC-9 put them to shame.

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Recycle don't scrap

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Рік тому

    Broken up, no

  • @gordon-n6s
    @gordon-n6s Рік тому +1

    So very noisy

  • @204driver
    @204driver 7 років тому +3

    Great footage