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While you can make mk9 sheeva works on tall characters,Jade have none of good things about her,having no mix up,the green/purple last way too fast and her overhead like Shao Kahn in mk11
@@13thKingMu here's the problem tho, she gets hard camped and spaced by basically anyone and she has the biggest hitbox (as of playable characters) and her 50/50 mixups are bad since one wrong move means a whole combo. Also her projectile sucks mad pp since you can just jump over it. Also Jade has a winning match up against her and sheeva's basically known to be the absolute worst in the game by pro players.
@@unholypain6906 if you have a bar to amplify it,she doesn't even gain much,only 60.00 or 80.00 health for a bar,that's way too low and regen health doesn't mean she's doesn't need a buff. You can make her work in KL but in offline tournament,she just lose every characters hell Shao Kahn have his move less flawless block gap while Skarlet still having a lot of moves that have flawless block gap.
Ride to the Darkness Umbreon offline yes she is kinda trash but online where frames fuck up she can overwhelm you with projectiles and her meter comes back pretty fast after the enhanced blood so she can build health back up pretty quickly
@@sincerecampbell4407 Do you even know what ngl means? You literally just said a straight up lie then said claimed you wasn’t gonna lie. When someone ngl it means they are telling the truth, which is the opposite of what you did. Besides there’s no way I’m more cringe then someone who pretends to be a animal.
I can’t argue joker is worse in this game. Even jokes to be the worse with his setups that can be countered by laying down. Bad zoning, bad power, and some combo strings are horrible. Combos are fun though and easy but that’s about it
@@rumley3176 at least he have a mix up while Swamp thing doesn't have any mix up that going for him and at least injustice 2 Joker have better mobility than his previous one
Ride to the Darkness Umbreon swamp thing don’t have mix up you kidding right 😂 a completely safe 50 50 off multiple strings one of which gives a full combo plus command grabs not sure what character you been playing but he has good shit just gets zoned bad
Swamp Thing actually does have a really good mixup. One of his strings leads to an overhead which starts a combo, but you can also cancel that string into his log kick special which is a low.
When it comes to Skarlet she’s one of the hardest characters in the game in my opinion. She’s extremely technical The problem is people just don’t know how to use her. Her S2 (13 frame high) is her best move it’s not just for punishing. The amount of mind games that move has is retarded.
She's like d'vorah, both need to work a lot, do setups and play really creative. They're not like liu kang or jax who can rely in just one string and stagger it, but to use all the strings depending on the situación. Anyway i think they need to be faster and safer, specially skarlet because of those gaps
Skarlet is my main. I do well with her though I have to be creative. I can do massive damage with her if I get ahold of them or I catch them in a wake up or crushing blow. I didn’t even know she was considered low tier.
Skarlet is not hard whatsoever shes literally dog just duck and block and her one over head is so easy to see its a hinge attack that has wind up time. Literally have to telegraph the shit and in a game of duck duck footsies characters with goofy command grab timings she gets raped. I mained her and frost in game was sitting at a 60%wr in ranked i tried sonya and was a 90% for a month spaming back XYA into other strings lmfao. You wanna see hard try playing frost after they figure out her mix up youre literally just standing there staring at them lmfao
I fell in love with Swamp Thing's gameplay and stuck with him for a very long time and he was a phenomenal character but you're right, his ranged game was so poor that he couldn't operate in some matchups at all. You are actually missing some of the odd things about him though. His corner game was beautiful and impressive and could make full use of his character power, he also had no ability to use his B3 or F3 during his combos at any point w/o meter which was unusual. I sadly think he needed the log to go full screen and the air dash on his standard kit to even make him playable at a high level, and believe me when i say I tried to get as good with him as I thought capable.
She needs to be competely redesigned mocap move-wise in my opinion. Her MK9 rushdown play style was really good and she kept almost nothing from that game. I miss bloodslide, slash mix up, dagger cancels. So much more fun to play
You could make a video with the most difficult characters to play, not that their combos are difficult to make, but that it is difficult for them to fight against the other characters of that game
Are you kidding me Underdawg? Jade over Sheeva in MK9? Sheeva on every female hitbox her strings don't ever actually hit and with MK9 a lot of the females ran the roster. I do have a soft spot for Swap Thing in Injustice 2 though. He was a ton of fun to play.
I understand your reasoning, but I had a couple reasons for my decision. The first is that I did see Sheeva at tournaments every now and then, even at high level ones. However, I almost never saw a Jade player. And while Sheeva's hitbox did fail in some match-ups, you could literally block low against Jade all day and react to her overhead. So she could never break your defense. She would have to throw over and over again. Also, she lost harder to projectiles than Sheeva because Sheeva at least had her stomp
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming Didn't jade have a busted wake-up with purple? I remember hearing something about her purple having no recovery so you could do literally anything as an invincable wake-up.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming I understand that, I really do, but in MK9, chip damage was a thing, not as others NRS games, literally you must, attack and let go of block, sometimes. Also Jade, most of the things are safe or neutral. So it was kind of hard taking your turn. Also, jade got better mobility than Sheeva, so that would help her in zoning MU, plus her projectiles and glow. Also, Sheeva, not just was slow, but she can't do much against half of the cast specially lower hitboxes. Literally her Overhead whiffs on Kitana, and mileena, and she can't do much damage against her bc the command grab whiffs in many combos.
Swamp thing has good combos though u can’t lie, and U forgot to mention swamp things attack where he makes a second swamp thing appear from behind you, that can be used as an anti zone attack
@@aircoots1648 try to play him it's correct that is hard to remember all things that he do but it's your opponent responsibility to remember all. Use cheesiest ones and you'll see how enjoyable he is
I never actually noticed Jade lacking combos in mk9. Wow! I played so much Mileena especially when I learned that combo she had with the leg pop ups into the roll to the teleport! Damn that combo was fun! ,😃✨✨✌️
I've found that Swamp thing's Vine Grab hitbox is so small that you need to be at perfect range or you won't hit. Even with range variants, the vine grab isnt that good.
Jade is actually one of the biggest pains if you play against her as AI at the hardest difficulty, because the AI's timing and execution is almost flawless, which means it takes full advantage of her green and purple armors. At least for average and advanced players - very advanced and professional players won't have any trouble I suppose, but then that would be the case against any AI character.
It's a shame. My main is Skarlet and while I am not that great at MK11 I still have fun with Skarlet even though I have noticed her animations are kind of slow. I've also noticed that because of her slower animations she can get punished while still hitting the opponent but the game sometimes doesn't register it as hitting the opponent. It's nothing to make me stop playing Skarlet. It's just a shame that she can get shafted by a lot of other characters specials or even basic hits.
One of her best tricks is blood ball around jumping distance and follow behind it cause opponent is forced to block. Which allow for mix ups like overhead sycthe, that low attack(forget the name) and even grabs. The blood ball is probably the reason her attacks are slow you kinda have all the time in the world to do them.although the 19 frame start up for her krushing blow is a joke. I truly believe netherealm intentionally made noob the worst character they have ever made
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When he said “Jade could only combo off this” I literally went... “Her Standing 3 can combo into her overhead!!” 💀 i dont know why I got so mad at that. 😂
Swamp Thing did have a couple tools against zoning but they weren't always reliable. If I recall correctly, the animation triggered after connecting a vine grab made him immune to projectiles so you'd want to do this move when they shoot and can't duck because they're in animation. His dash launcher lowered his hitbox a lot so you could go under some projectiles. He could also point his vine grab diagonally upward and I used that a lot against superman doing air lasers.
Skarlett is a zoning character and her zoning can be straight up busted sometimes. She doesn't need to have fast strings on top of that. Look at the range on the strings in the first place. They're slow for a reason. She's the one of the only keep away characters they designed right in this game.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming the only way she should lose the gaps in some of these strings it is if they make some of them less safe. As it stands like I said the reason she HAS these gaps is because at about neutral range when you DON'T flawless block her she can essentially just do whatever she wants and if you try to move into a better range she can do something else right after her last string and you WILL get hit for trying to get in. Couple that with her zoning and she is just infuriating to try to deal with online. The character is fine the way she is she doesn't need to be 9frame mid Liu Kang and Jacqui she's a zoner and the most annoying one i'd argue she's viable for what she's intended to be and nothing else.
Nah she isn't a zoning character....she is a neutral character with staggers and whiff punishing with zoning tools to compliment her.....but the zoning has slow start-ups and loses to sonya for example......but if you want to be the busted zoning character: Emerald defender jade.....shit Skarlet does not even have an air projectile unlike Sub, Cassie, Kabal, Kitana, Cetrion, PB noob, Liu, Sindel, Johnny, I'm probably missing a few others
I’m a skarlet main and as much as I love her. She NEEDs buffs. Those (thigh) gaps are very punishable. It hurts for me to say that. I agree with @trueunderdawggaming that she works on lower ranks cause a lot don’t know how to deal w the keep away. But on higher play, her damage is so not rewarding. And YES. She is slow af. Her frames need work. I mean they did buff bloodport but that doesn’t really “fix” her per se. And her armor breaker is the move that people rarely use... Not to mention her scythe overhead krushing blow... uhhh 18%? It’s so avoidable. Like please tell me there’s at least damage over time.
Jade's ex glow is not invincible. It is armored, but she takes increased damage on hit during it from physical attacks. Which makes things worst for her in my opinion.
jisification he doesn’t have an infinite 😂 he did when the game came out bro, but he has a vortex in trait but he requires some of the heaviest execution so yeah he was good but people clown him since he was hard
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i feel the same way. i love her that’s why i keep playing her i don’t like how people use characters that carry them for a easy win just cuz their “top tier”
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Mk11 baraka is definitely an honorable mention. As someone who plays kano and pocket Baraka I can zone out and footsies dedicated players easily and that is a problem considering kano is more of a keep you guessing and grappler type. Baraka has to work so hard to get in but once he does get in he can rob you quite easily but that's like once in a lifetime if you're someone like erron black or Shang tsung. He's got a TON of consistent damage but his main punisher, 1 1 2, is high on the first hit meaning in alot of cases where you should get the punish, if it's not reversal timing then he can be scrubbed out by people low profiling with d2. And one of his only good mid starters is f4 which is a step kick so that means it's on the slower side since it's meant for advancing and whiff punishing which it does a very good job at but unless your opponent does like something extremely unsafe, it's most likely not gonna hit on punish and even then if something is that unsafe just do 1 1 2. Once again he does ALOT of damage in very patient and capable hands and can straight up end a game in a minute if someone's isn't prepared for him, but his cracks are pretty easy to spot once you get a feel for his style which is to get pressure going and scare your opponent from doing anything and eating 35% although many of these situations are fake and if he loses his turn he has to work damn hard to get it back.
Skarlet's damage is insane if you use Hermorrage. If you master boiling boiling point your can master her mix ups if the opponent isn't all day blocking low, because her only ovwrhead is super slow, but some how it catches, opponents but rarely and the krushing blow isn't worth it. I usually try to do the DOT Krushing Blow use red mist jump 2 and then her string, sadly if they break away not from the corner it's over for me, because her breakaway move's range is insanely low and you have to amplify it if you want to catch them in mid screen,but it's really useful in the corner! Her 3rd variation is really more complicated than it looks like, because she also red mist and krimson shield. I do use krimson shield, because it reduces the damagr of the opponent! It has saved me once and it was a so nice, i almost lost the round, but it saved me! She definitely needs buffs, but if you want to see more power of Skarlet her 3rd variation is the best option! I used to play with the 1st variation, because of the tele and the parry. Blood ritual is pretty useless except if the opponent is away and has really low health bar it might be useful, but nah... Please can you use Skarlet's 3rd variation in your next video to showcase her? I love your videos! 💕
Feel like bo rai cho was done dirty, the drunken master variation is my main especially with the brutality it has, it never gets old seeing my opponents vomit to death and bo rai cho vomiting with them😂
Swamp Thing was your choice? I would have definitely thought Gorilla Grodd, he doesnt have a single ranged attack outside of meter burning ground pound, and it’s similar to Swamp Thing’s log where it’s slow start up/hits low. Grodd has decent combos and he can meter burn his charge attack to gain armor, but that’s jumpable. He really just doesn’t hold a candle to practically anyone else, especially zoners.
Grodd is defo the worst yeh when he gets trait out and gets going he can be good but takes a lot of effort and has literally no mix that can’t be fuzzied except off the trait vortex I know this stuff cause I Mained him as a secondary so he finds it hard to open people up swap thing is definitely better imo
Jade in MK9 has 1 frame on startup special move, which you can use as a wakeup and get invincibility frames. Ex-version of this move is giving her even more i-frames, so she is really not the worst character. The move is her glow, by the way.
Skarlet can be the weakest character in mk11, and that makes me happy in a way, because I only play Skarlet in the Kombat League, and in all seasons I arrived in Elder God, and it shows that it depends a lot on the player... And I would like to highlight a few points about Skarlet. She is technically the healthiest character in the game, since to recover health with her she has several ways and all effective. Her fatal blow brings good mechanics to her, if you stay close to her, you get hit by the fatal blow, if you stay away from her you are zoned to death. If Skarlet takes you to the corner, you will have to deal with one of the situations of either you block low to avoid starting a combo, or you will suffer absurd pressure that it can cause
absolutely agree! was really afraid to pick up skarlet cause everyone says she sucks, but i love playing as her and she’s my new main! i find her to be a really good counterpick against wifi/yolo scorpions lmao
@@icey9238 The blood ball is very good for applying pressure, especially in the second variation. Use the third variation against characters that can apply a lot of pressure, like Jacqui and Liu Kang, while you are in the active red mist, you will be building an advantage little by little. Use a lot of your 50/50 switching between B2 and B4, use B3 and BF1 to gain health advantage. And remember that Skarlet has a low projectile that makes you + on hit, use it to apply pressure. If you see that your opponent knows how to make a flawless block, throw him a lot Also remember that Skarlet can cancel your teleport by holding it down, you can make mind games with it A simple combo in the corner with Skarlet is ... 44; BF3 amplifies; 44: BF3
Ppl forget though that the glow was 1 frame on start up, so basically instant recovery which was projectile immune and if done with a bar on wake up was also attack immune, so she actually had one of the best wake ups possible in a nrs game. Other than that though yes she wasn’t that great
The biggest problem with it wasn't even the bad duration it was the fact that a lot of things that were clearly projectiles were not considered projectiles by her shadow glow
9:32 to make you feel better Drunken Fist in Deadly Alliance and Deception was one of the best fighting styles in the game, well Bo' Rai Cho was insanely good in those games.
Swamp thing has way more going for him than you considered. And the people who say hes still the worst after final patch are the same casuals who think zoning is "too strong" in this game. He's the strongest counter zoner before DLC and his trait COMPLETELY changes matchups with the armored moves (which you didnt discuss)
He is a great beginner Charakter easy to use and hard to Deal with until you get some experience he is also THE mortal kombat char with sub zero so obv people pick one of the 2 iconic characters idk about you guys i always was more of a kano player
As a scarlet main I would have to disagree her parry with meter bern can get a good amount of health back and keeping you opponent at a short distance is a good idea but yes her keep away at far is trash
Whenever I would play Injustice 2 online I would eventually find myself using Deadshot as an insurance policy because I would get a feeling that my opponent was gonna spam or zone, especially if they were using Captain Cold. Now keep in mind, my playstyle is heavily based on Combos, meter burn, and sometimes environment use. And I still will do this with Deadshot if I'm proven wrong and the person I'm fighting doesn't zone. But in the event that they do, I'll be able to counter it.
Swamp Thing definitely wasn't the worst after the final patches. They made his garden a lot stronger; it gave him armor while he was in the garden, which gave him a lot of "hard to get out of" situations, on top of his 50/50s and his fantastic reach. The garden also DoTs the opponent along with preventing them from jumping. He was mid tier for sure. Raiden was probably the worst.
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Yeah sure
You should do a ranking of the nrs games’ story modes
first can u do the the best chara ters and second jade had a op wakeup move it was her green shade
Mike ackworth I think he’s already done a best characters list, check his videos
did anyone have a move that had high block advantage frames (from past NRS games)
The only reason jade was low tier is because she was the only balanced character lol.
I do think Stryker is more balanced than Jade because at least she has a broken wake up. Stryker has nothing broken about him.
Exslider But Stryker was still better than Jade lol
@@fischure8480 That is pretty true. Sad Jade
And now shes busted and braindead
Grzegorz Chyra she went from unusable to unbearable.
Seeing Skarlet in a list like this breaks my heart, but you’re not wrong.
I think she's pretty good compared to some others
@@Nonlifting_breezy nø
@@ApeXXgames yes
@@Zintai yes
Yeah it’s sad
I see why Jade is the way she is in MK11, she got the short end of the stick in MK9
Pun intended?
@@wolf-spider1119 Yes it is.
William Memelli nice
They did her so much justice in mk11 but ruined kitana. Traded places.
Pun intended 😎🤠
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Ikr same
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Me too
Skarlet may be the worst, but she's still my favorite :)
I love playing with skarlet
Scarlet the worst my ass she doesn't need any buff just a brain behind her lol i can name 3 characters worse than her
EPIK Games she is, haha. If ur playing against a good player they will just flawless block everything
I love using her too, but I don't use her online anymore because her strings have gaps
EPIK Games I’m actually curious as to who you feel are worst characters
coming across a good drunken master player is pretty impressive though
Exactly, might be bottom tier but the skill level to make him work properly is something to behold
I love watching Super play drunken master
Lol I love bo rai cho on mkx, always been one of my favorites and go too if nobody else is working
I hate when people say "you can just flawless block" as if flawless block has ever happened in a public match
Flawless blocking would be much easier if Mortal Kombat used holding back to block.
Or if was like parrying in third strike
@@scottyj8655 Well it basically is, it's just that it's push to block instead.
@@jellophant9716 no it's really not, it works more like perfect shielding in smash bros.
@JelloPhant Holding back to block sucks ass though. It makes it way slower to start up combos and do them correctly. It’s way better with a button.
i'm surprised mk9 sheeva wasn't there, she literally had no winning match ups and half of her good things don't work against certain small characters.
While you can make mk9 sheeva works on tall characters,Jade have none of good things about her,having no mix up,the green/purple last way too fast and her overhead like Shao Kahn in mk11
@@13thKingMu here's the problem tho, she gets hard camped and spaced by basically anyone and she has the biggest hitbox (as of playable characters) and her 50/50 mixups are bad since one wrong move means a whole combo. Also her projectile sucks mad pp since you can just jump over it. Also Jade has a winning match up against her and sheeva's basically known to be the absolute worst in the game by pro players.
Yeah Sheeva from MK9 was atrocious.
Yeah Sheeva was worser than Jade
@@irlredline7965 *worse
I love how when bo Rai Cho throws up it says unlockable, like bruh
Well I mean..
I mean, is it wrong tho?
Well it’s not wrong
It’s a shame because Skarlet has the best voice actor and the coolest character design in my opinion
Yea she sounds cool as shit then when you play her she sucks
coolest character design 100% goes to rain
@@druggyisaiah3125 not of you know how to use her
I am disappointed with the way they made her. She looked so much better in Mortal Kombat 2011.
@@igorsteinberg3533 Not at all💀
Superman"I can shoot lazerbeams from my eyes" Starfire"I can create supernovas" swamp thing"I have this log" edit: 13:06
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Why is this so true? 😂
That sounds terrifying
The 4th Komodo then again you could play catch with him
The 4th Komodo my time to shine baby
Skarlet is my main and I'm saying she needs a lot of buffs and I mean we got skarlet for mk11 I'm not complaining
her krushing blows are not rewarding at all that's a shame honestly
I’m perfectly fine with her I mix us and v3
She does not need buffs a character that can regain her whole life bar with a special move every combo relax
@@unholypain6906 if you have a bar to amplify it,she doesn't even gain much,only 60.00 or 80.00 health for a bar,that's way too low and regen health doesn't mean she's doesn't need a buff. You can make her work in KL but in offline tournament,she just lose every characters hell Shao Kahn have his move less flawless block gap while Skarlet still having a lot of moves that have flawless block gap.
Ride to the Darkness Umbreon offline yes she is kinda trash but online where frames fuck up she can overwhelm you with projectiles and her meter comes back pretty fast after the enhanced blood so she can build health back up pretty quickly
I stand by the opinion that just because SonicFox makes a character work doesn't mean that character is any good.
Guy's a big deal so yes definitely
Fox is good with every character so of course he's going to make everyone work that's the reason raiden didn't get buffed for a long time
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 he’s a cringe furry
@@George_Fl0yd he doesn’t even do anything, you just don’t like him fuse he wears a fur suit. You’re 10 times more cringe than he is ngl
@@sincerecampbell4407 Do you even know what ngl means? You literally just said a straight up lie then said claimed you wasn’t gonna lie. When someone ngl it means they are telling the truth, which is the opposite of what you did. Besides there’s no way I’m more cringe then someone who pretends to be a animal.
it broke my heart Jade was one the worst in MK9
Ikr 😥💔
Especially when everyone is busted in there
@@HeavyShores Johnny was damn insufferable
Jade wasn’t the worst character in MK9 this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about Sheeva literally had 9-1 and 8-2 matchups
@@mehrio2640 I feel so much better now
Says joker is bad: proceeds to tell us how he's good. Love you trueunderdawg.
"But Swamp Thing has an Air Dash" -A swamp thing main that has over 1000 losses (Aka Me). Yeah he's pretty bad.
Yeah mained him since day one... he can dominate some matches but it's all on the player, hes lacking so much. I feel you bro
@@quickdippin24 I'm just history's greatest loser.
I can’t argue joker is worse in this game. Even jokes to be the worse with his setups that can be countered by laying down. Bad zoning, bad power, and some combo strings are horrible.
Combos are fun though and easy but that’s about it
@@rumley3176 at least he have a mix up while Swamp thing doesn't have any mix up that going for him and at least injustice 2 Joker have better mobility than his previous one
Ride to the Darkness Umbreon swamp thing don’t have mix up you kidding right 😂 a completely safe 50 50 off multiple strings one of which gives a full combo plus command grabs not sure what character you been playing but he has good shit just gets zoned bad
I’d love to see Lostygirl fight with TrueUnderDawg
YESS I love them both they're both amazing players and creators :)
+1!
I think she would slaughter him . 😂
Who is that is she good?
Animob 100 hell yeah she is
I don’t care if Joker was bottom tier in Injustice. He was still my main. :D
That's exactly what I was saying. I still be clapping my friends with him on igau
YOUR FIRED 🔥🔥🔥
It's only in injustice 1 I guess, in injustice 2 he's better
Ana Julia He was definitely improved in Injustice 2. Still bottom 5 but definitely had his key traits remained intact.
Wasn’t my main but a character I really enjoyed playing though I did wish his character power was better :(
As a Skarlet main in MK9 I can say I was extremely disappointed with her in 11. She plays nothing like the wild jungle girl she was is MK9.
Swamp Thing actually does have a really good mixup. One of his strings leads to an overhead which starts a combo, but you can also cancel that string into his log kick special which is a low.
When it comes to Skarlet she’s one of the hardest characters in the game in my opinion. She’s extremely technical The problem is people just don’t know how to use her. Her S2 (13 frame high) is her best move it’s not just for punishing. The amount of mind games that move has is retarded.
She's like d'vorah, both need to work a lot, do setups and play really creative. They're not like liu kang or jax who can rely in just one string and stagger it, but to use all the strings depending on the situación. Anyway i think they need to be faster and safer, specially skarlet because of those gaps
Skarlet is my go to. I do fairly well with her.
Skarlet is my main. I do well with her though I have to be creative. I can do massive damage with her if I get ahold of them or I catch them in a wake up or crushing blow. I didn’t even know she was considered low tier.
Skarlet is not hard whatsoever shes literally dog just duck and block and her one over head is so easy to see its a hinge attack that has wind up time. Literally have to telegraph the shit and in a game of duck duck footsies characters with goofy command grab timings she gets raped. I mained her and frost in game was sitting at a 60%wr in ranked i tried sonya and was a 90% for a month spaming back XYA into other strings lmfao. You wanna see hard try playing frost after they figure out her mix up youre literally just standing there staring at them lmfao
Skarlets variation 3 is the one to use for more damage.
Jade saved the brokenness for 11
I remember my brother playing drunk and just always using bo rai cho
I fell in love with Swamp Thing's gameplay and stuck with him for a very long time and he was a phenomenal character but you're right, his ranged game was so poor that he couldn't operate in some matchups at all. You are actually missing some of the odd things about him though. His corner game was beautiful and impressive and could make full use of his character power, he also had no ability to use his B3 or F3 during his combos at any point w/o meter which was unusual. I sadly think he needed the log to go full screen and the air dash on his standard kit to even make him playable at a high level, and believe me when i say I tried to get as good with him as I thought capable.
After Swamp Thing’s 3-4 rounds of buffs he eventually ended up being a well designed, fun character with a diverse tool set
They need to buff my girl skarlet
Nah she’s balanced.
@@therealheem6035 you clearly don't play skarlet or even play the game if you think she is "balanced" no ❤️
@elon musk mate majority of scrubs play her and she has good pressure and zoning too. Kinda sad having Elon musk in your name
Yes I love her but she needs some buffs not gonna lie
She needs to be competely redesigned mocap move-wise in my opinion. Her MK9 rushdown play style was really good and she kept almost nothing from that game. I miss bloodslide, slash mix up, dagger cancels. So much more fun to play
"Every character in MK9 is overpowered"
And here we have the Syndrome logic: if everyone is OP, nobody is.
Pfftttt jade may have been low tier but her rack was top tier tho
Nah, the girls in mk9 looked like fucking aliens
bro what ? we talm bout tiddies here son
Even mileena got her beat there
adam abreahem yeah that was above top tier though
They were so fucking oversexualised it was gross
You could make a video with the most difficult characters to play, not that their combos are difficult to make, but that it is difficult for them to fight against the other characters of that game
Fujin definitely wins in MK11
Are you kidding me Underdawg? Jade over Sheeva in MK9? Sheeva on every female hitbox her strings don't ever actually hit and with MK9 a lot of the females ran the roster.
I do have a soft spot for Swap Thing in Injustice 2 though. He was a ton of fun to play.
I understand your reasoning, but I had a couple reasons for my decision. The first is that I did see Sheeva at tournaments every now and then, even at high level ones. However, I almost never saw a Jade player. And while Sheeva's hitbox did fail in some match-ups, you could literally block low against Jade all day and react to her overhead. So she could never break your defense. She would have to throw over and over again. Also, she lost harder to projectiles than Sheeva because Sheeva at least had her stomp
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming Didn't jade have a busted wake-up with purple? I remember hearing something about her purple having no recovery so you could do literally anything as an invincable wake-up.
@@holdenchambers3986 her purple lasted all of .3 seconds lol it was so short
@@Juanmaligno it wasn't op bc of its length or anything. Mk_reo has a great video on her, and basically the rest of the cast
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming I understand that, I really do, but in MK9, chip damage was a thing, not as others NRS games, literally you must, attack and let go of block, sometimes. Also Jade, most of the things are safe or neutral. So it was kind of hard taking your turn. Also, jade got better mobility than Sheeva, so that would help her in zoning MU, plus her projectiles and glow. Also, Sheeva, not just was slow, but she can't do much against half of the cast specially lower hitboxes. Literally her Overhead whiffs on Kitana, and mileena, and she can't do much damage against her bc the command grab whiffs in many combos.
Swamp thing has good combos though u can’t lie, and U forgot to mention swamp things attack where he makes a second swamp thing appear from behind you, that can be used as an anti zone attack
Yeah. Swamp Thing top 15 at least in my book. F2 best mid in the game and top 3 best string in the game.
OH!MY! GODDOG! Oh for sure, easily best f2 in the game, it can lead into some high damage combos 👌🏽
it was bad and super punishable
Nobody:
Skarlet mains:Allow me to introduce myself
Has we should 💋
Limua Julua has ?
Wait people maim Scarlet???
Unknown Forever bruh I meet like 10 scarlets a day and I think I’ve only lost to them once
@NineLivesToLive Ive never met any so yea.
Always been a big fan of all 5 youtubers that you mentioned, was really excited to find out you’re all homies with each other
I never get tired of that intro lol, one of the best I've seen
11:38 there's a character in tekken. lei wulang. In tekken 7 he have nearly 170 different attacks. try to remember that 😂
I bought him not knowing how hard he is, once i learned how many stances he has i instantly gave up
@@aircoots1648 i think king has so many attacks,
slashgeta yoshimitsu too, although its not really necessary to learn all their moves
Think Brad wong from dead or alive has an insanely long move list too 😂 must be a drunken fighter thing
@@aircoots1648 try to play him it's correct that is hard to remember all things that he do but it's your opponent responsibility to remember all. Use cheesiest ones and you'll see how enjoyable he is
I never actually noticed Jade lacking combos in mk9. Wow!
I played so much Mileena especially when I learned that combo she had with the leg pop ups into the roll to the teleport!
Damn that combo was fun! ,😃✨✨✌️
Remember when skarlet was a brutal silent blood bending kunoichi ? … the messed up pretty badly
I remember time me and my friends played MK9 together and I ALWAYS lost to Jade. WITH RAIDEN! That hurts my feelings even now.
yikes
“Drinking does have its benefits”
I told myself the same thing freshman year of college
Swamp Thing was my love in injustice 2 it really put a patch on the Grundy wound. I did okay with him at launch but it was so difficult after
How is the joker better in Mortal Kombat 11 than injustice, what was NRS thinking?
He is a beast in mk11
They did what they thought was right.
They weren't
He went from the worst to the best he’s 2nd to Liu Kang
Hes good in injustice 2
Jade be like: "Hit or miss? I guess I always miss, uh?"
I’m new to this channel, I can’t stop watching the intro over and over again
It never gets old
I see an underdawg video and i click instantly 😄
Even though I didn’t play some of these old games I really enjoyed this video
Man I love your channel, I can’t wait for you to hit 1,000 subs. I can’t believe you are here 😂
Yo wassup man!
Facts
Stop being top comment, how do you even do it so many times? Am I the only one who sees him top comment, so many times
Yo kingz wassup homie
Idk why but whenever I look at jokers neck, my neck starts to feel uncomfortable
10:34 “So Drinking does have its benefits.”
TrueUnderDawgGaming out of context.
My heart when I saw jade in the worst for mk9.
I've found that Swamp thing's Vine Grab hitbox is so small that you need to be at perfect range or you won't hit. Even with range variants, the vine grab isnt that good.
I had a hard time in the jade section of the videos we men have struggled lol
15:14 Silver Swamp Thing gains health by standing in the gardens that he summons with Special attacks in Injustice 2 Mobile!
Skarlet was my MK9 main. Seeing her going from rushdown to zoner broke my heart. Should've kept her MK9 moveset for MK11 imo. I miss that slide.
Havent seen the video yet but I hope he knows that swampthing has a infinite sweep in the corner so you can do anything to save your self
Jade is actually one of the biggest pains if you play against her as AI at the hardest difficulty, because the AI's timing and execution is almost flawless, which means it takes full advantage of her green and purple armors. At least for average and advanced players - very advanced and professional players won't have any trouble I suppose, but then that would be the case against any AI character.
It's a shame. My main is Skarlet and while I am not that great at MK11 I still have fun with Skarlet even though I have noticed her animations are kind of slow. I've also noticed that because of her slower animations she can get punished while still hitting the opponent but the game sometimes doesn't register it as hitting the opponent. It's nothing to make me stop playing Skarlet. It's just a shame that she can get shafted by a lot of other characters specials or even basic hits.
One of her best tricks is blood ball around jumping distance and follow behind it cause opponent is forced to block. Which allow for mix ups like overhead sycthe, that low attack(forget the name) and even grabs. The blood ball is probably the reason her attacks are slow you kinda have all the time in the world to do them.although the 19 frame start up for her krushing blow is a joke. I truly believe netherealm intentionally made noob the worst character they have ever made
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Man...I main Drunken Master and I have to say that he is hard to get down. However he is the mix king of that game. Outside of Drunk you can back 4 and hold stance or roll either way or pop up with 3 or 2. His cancels in and out of meditate mixed with his instant df 1 when lvl 2 drunk. It breaks armor for free! His damage is insane and his fart with ground stomp mix is heavy. Killer mids and easy ways to drink. I play him on a HitBox and he is a gem! Great video!
I thought Unbreakable Sub-Zero was the worst in MKX.
When he said “Jade could only combo off this” I literally went... “Her Standing 3 can combo into her overhead!!” 💀 i dont know why I got so mad at that. 😂
YES! Thank you for doing my video request! Love you Underdawg!
Swamp Thing did have a couple tools against zoning but they weren't always reliable. If I recall correctly, the animation triggered after connecting a vine grab made him immune to projectiles so you'd want to do this move when they shoot and can't duck because they're in animation. His dash launcher lowered his hitbox a lot so you could go under some projectiles. He could also point his vine grab diagonally upward and I used that a lot against superman doing air lasers.
Great video as always. Nice that you got input from Super.
Me: Aww, Jackie Chan
Kids: who's Jackie Chan?
Me: I'm old :(
Skarlett is a zoning character and her zoning can be straight up busted sometimes.
She doesn't need to have fast strings on top of that. Look at the range on the strings in the first place. They're slow for a reason. She's the one of the only keep away characters they designed right in this game.
I agree to an extent, but when literally no one is using her at tournaments, you know she is lacking
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming the only way she should lose the gaps in some of these strings it is if they make some of them less safe. As it stands like I said the reason she HAS these gaps is because at about neutral range when you DON'T flawless block her she can essentially just do whatever she wants and if you try to move into a better range she can do something else right after her last string and you WILL get hit for trying to get in.
Couple that with her zoning and she is just infuriating to try to deal with online.
The character is fine the way she is she doesn't need to be 9frame mid Liu Kang and Jacqui she's a zoner and the most annoying one i'd argue she's viable for what she's intended to be and nothing else.
She is the only well-designed character in this game
Nah she isn't a zoning character....she is a neutral character with staggers and whiff punishing with zoning tools to compliment her.....but the zoning has slow start-ups and loses to sonya for example......but if you want to be the busted zoning character: Emerald defender jade.....shit Skarlet does not even have an air projectile unlike Sub, Cassie, Kabal, Kitana, Cetrion, PB noob, Liu, Sindel, Johnny, I'm probably missing a few others
I’m a skarlet main and as much as I love her. She NEEDs buffs. Those (thigh) gaps are very punishable. It hurts for me to say that. I agree with @trueunderdawggaming that she works on lower ranks cause a lot don’t know how to deal w the keep away. But on higher play, her damage is so not rewarding. And YES. She is slow af. Her frames need work. I mean they did buff bloodport but that doesn’t really “fix” her per se. And her armor breaker is the move that people rarely use... Not to mention her scythe overhead krushing blow... uhhh 18%? It’s so avoidable. Like please tell me there’s at least damage over time.
Jade's ex glow is not invincible. It is armored, but she takes increased damage on hit during it from physical attacks. Which makes things worst for her in my opinion.
I see this list as "characters you can use to clobber your casual friends and cousins without giving them a chance to cry over picks"
i thought that gorilla grodd was the worst character in injustice 2
He has a 50/50 that goes into a infinite so not so much
jisification he doesn’t have an infinite 😂 he did when the game came out bro, but he has a vortex in trait but he requires some of the heaviest execution so yeah he was good but people clown him since he was hard
Profeta Pro Story-wise, Gorilla Grodd is the worst.
@@ElephantforEx yeah thats what i was think
I thought Enchantress, Captain Cold if we're talking non DLC
Video popped up in my feed. Was hoping to get a good, knowledgeable explanation of your choices. I totally did! Very entertaining and informative. New subscriber right here!
I still love skarlett despite her being low skilled
Same
True Aura I’m Demi god rank skarlett and use her third variation and first variation love her
@@Kiddo_williams What a coincidence.Scarlet just got me to demi god rank today
i feel the same way. i love her that’s why i keep playing her i don’t like how people use characters that carry them for a easy win just cuz their “top tier”
She just a fun character to me
After playing 3D fighters, hearing attacks that are around 7-8 frames be considered slow is quite surprising
That Bo Rai Cho drunk variation is hilarious. Even if it sucks, super creative.
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Love your video bro!
In Shang tsung timeline good go bad.
In Lui Kang timeline bad go good.
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Also watching Jade's Combos seemed like they nerfed her for MK9, I swore those moves were pretty good
mY FIRST MORTAL KOMBAT GAME WAS BYING YESTERDAY MK 11. And i have no clue how you are supposed to beat jade in that game :D
Mk11 baraka is definitely an honorable mention. As someone who plays kano and pocket Baraka I can zone out and footsies dedicated players easily and that is a problem considering kano is more of a keep you guessing and grappler type. Baraka has to work so hard to get in but once he does get in he can rob you quite easily but that's like once in a lifetime if you're someone like erron black or Shang tsung. He's got a TON of consistent damage but his main punisher, 1 1 2, is high on the first hit meaning in alot of cases where you should get the punish, if it's not reversal timing then he can be scrubbed out by people low profiling with d2. And one of his only good mid starters is f4 which is a step kick so that means it's on the slower side since it's meant for advancing and whiff punishing which it does a very good job at but unless your opponent does like something extremely unsafe, it's most likely not gonna hit on punish and even then if something is that unsafe just do 1 1 2. Once again he does ALOT of damage in very patient and capable hands and can straight up end a game in a minute if someone's isn't prepared for him, but his cracks are pretty easy to spot once you get a feel for his style which is to get pressure going and scare your opponent from doing anything and eating 35% although many of these situations are fake and if he loses his turn he has to work damn hard to get it back.
breaks my heart to see this as Skarlet is one of my mains calling her slow is an understatement with certain augments its like watching in slow motion
Its kind of ironic that her jensei augments make her special moves even slower
Skarlet's damage is insane if you use Hermorrage. If you master boiling boiling point your can master her mix ups if the opponent isn't all day blocking low, because her only ovwrhead is super slow, but some how it catches, opponents but rarely and the krushing blow isn't worth it. I usually try to do the DOT Krushing Blow use red mist jump 2 and then her string, sadly if they break away not from the corner it's over for me, because her breakaway move's range is insanely low and you have to amplify it if you want to catch them in mid screen,but it's really useful in the corner! Her 3rd variation is really more complicated than it looks like, because she also red mist and krimson shield. I do use krimson shield, because it reduces the damagr of the opponent! It has saved me once and it was a so nice, i almost lost the round, but it saved me! She definitely needs buffs, but if you want to see more power of Skarlet her 3rd variation is the best option! I used to play with the 1st variation, because of the tele and the parry. Blood ritual is pretty useless except if the opponent is away and has really low health bar it might be useful, but nah... Please can you use Skarlet's 3rd variation in your next video to showcase her? I love your videos! 💕
I wish Drunken Master Bo’Rai’Cho would puke on the opponent when the timer ran out
Feel like bo rai cho was done dirty, the drunken master variation is my main especially with the brutality it has, it never gets old seeing my opponents vomit to death and bo rai cho vomiting with them😂
The fighting community might have one of the best and most consistent UA-camrs. Glad I stumbled across them
Can we please just buff skarlet please? 😔 like I’m honestly falling in love with her, especially V3 but she needs buffs
Swamp Thing was your choice? I would have definitely thought Gorilla Grodd, he doesnt have a single ranged attack outside of meter burning ground pound, and it’s similar to Swamp Thing’s log where it’s slow start up/hits low. Grodd has decent combos and he can meter burn his charge attack to gain armor, but that’s jumpable. He really just doesn’t hold a candle to practically anyone else, especially zoners.
Tbh it’s really between those two
Jade was the worst character?! 😔 Dang, now we taking scrubs to tilt town in MK11 🤣
Who's your top 3 in mk11
lifesogood85 Shao Kahn Shao Kahn and Shao Kahn
@@haslamabad_ 😂😂 ok
lifesogood85 Nightwolf, Frost and Jade.
Grodd is defo the worst yeh when he gets trait out and gets going he can be good but takes a lot of effort and has literally no mix that can’t be fuzzied except off the trait vortex I know this stuff cause I Mained him as a secondary so he finds it hard to open people up swap thing is definitely better imo
I didn't realize I was rewatching this exactly a year later until Underdawg said it's August 1st
Actually everyone thought Sheva was the worst character in mk9
One of the worst in mk11 also
Baraka, too
@@MeMe-dg4oh wrong shes actually good in mk11
@@rickycain6085 she only works against noobs that dont know how to fight her. Any decent player destroys her
@@rickycain6085 Her leap is really annoying, but I don't think she's great otherwise. I may be wrong though.
Jade in MK9 has 1 frame on startup special move, which you can use as a wakeup and get invincibility frames. Ex-version of this move is giving her even more i-frames, so she is really not the worst character. The move is her glow, by the way.
Skarlet can be the weakest character in mk11, and that makes me happy in a way, because I only play Skarlet in the Kombat League, and in all seasons I arrived in Elder God, and it shows that it depends a lot on the player...
And I would like to highlight a few points about Skarlet. She is technically the healthiest character in the game, since to recover health with her she has several ways and all effective.
Her fatal blow brings good mechanics to her, if you stay close to her, you get hit by the fatal blow, if you stay away from her you are zoned to death.
If Skarlet takes you to the corner, you will have to deal with one of the situations of either you block low to avoid starting a combo, or you will suffer absurd pressure that it can cause
absolutely agree! was really afraid to pick up skarlet cause everyone says she sucks, but i love playing as her and she’s my new main! i find her to be a really good counterpick against wifi/yolo scorpions lmao
Elder god every season? You have any tips on her?
@@icey9238 The blood ball is very good for applying pressure, especially in the second variation.
Use the third variation against characters that can apply a lot of pressure, like Jacqui and Liu Kang, while you are in the active red mist, you will be building an advantage little by little.
Use a lot of your 50/50 switching between B2 and B4, use B3 and BF1 to gain health advantage.
And remember that Skarlet has a low projectile that makes you + on hit, use it to apply pressure.
If you see that your opponent knows how to make a flawless block, throw him a lot
Also remember that Skarlet can cancel your teleport by holding it down, you can make mind games with it
A simple combo in the corner with Skarlet is ... 44; BF3 amplifies; 44: BF3
damn I thought the general consensus was that Raiden was the worst INJ2 character
Ppl forget though that the glow was 1 frame on start up, so basically instant recovery which was projectile immune and if done with a bar on wake up was also attack immune, so she actually had one of the best wake ups possible in a nrs game. Other than that though yes she wasn’t that great
The biggest problem with it wasn't even the bad duration it was the fact that a lot of things that were clearly projectiles were not considered projectiles by her shadow glow
9:32 to make you feel better Drunken Fist in Deadly Alliance and Deception was one of the best fighting styles in the game, well Bo' Rai Cho was insanely good in those games.
Yo this is going to be a fun video!👍🏻
Swamp thing has way more going for him than you considered. And the people who say hes still the worst after final patch are the same casuals who think zoning is "too strong" in this game. He's the strongest counter zoner before DLC and his trait COMPLETELY changes matchups with the armored moves (which you didnt discuss)
I had to fight scorpion 7 times in a row why does eavry one use him?
Good question?
Cause he's easy and does good damage for not that much effort
He is a great beginner Charakter easy to use and hard to Deal with until you get some experience he is also THE mortal kombat char with sub zero so obv people pick one of the 2 iconic characters idk about you guys i always was more of a kano player
@@jhvfgvsfgbfr Kano players are superior
@@jhetzahidsalgado867 cant argue against that abs ;)
Your intro it's one of the best I've seen in youtube
Happy First Of The Month!!
As a scarlet main I would have to disagree her parry with meter bern can get a good amount of health back and keeping you opponent at a short distance is a good idea but yes her keep away at far is trash
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So guys, we did it.
Kiyo with gucci shades damn. You did
@@thedoomslayer9792 if i wrote the same thing he did write people will attack me in the replys
Whenever I would play Injustice 2 online I would eventually find myself using Deadshot as an insurance policy because I would get a feeling that my opponent was gonna spam or zone, especially if they were using Captain Cold. Now keep in mind, my playstyle is heavily based on Combos, meter burn, and sometimes environment use. And I still will do this with Deadshot if I'm proven wrong and the person I'm fighting doesn't zone. But in the event that they do, I'll be able to counter it.
Wait joker was the worst in ij1? I literally used to DOMINATE with him online. No one knew how to fight him and Insane damage.
Probably because he was so rare to see no one bothered to lab
Swamp Thing definitely wasn't the worst after the final patches. They made his garden a lot stronger; it gave him armor while he was in the garden, which gave him a lot of "hard to get out of" situations, on top of his 50/50s and his fantastic reach. The garden also DoTs the opponent along with preventing them from jumping. He was mid tier for sure. Raiden was probably the worst.
I use skarlet variation 3 because she alr has pretty decent zoning
I main that variation too
I use v1