I went straight to the lounge put in Top Gun Maverick with Atmos with the volume down and went through and turned this off. If someone can give me the reasoning for this option and others to only come up when an Atmos source is actually playing I would love to know! It seems insane to me that such an important setting would not only be on by default, But there should be somewhere in bold letters for every new user of an amp with this software to see! Thanks to you and your guest I’ve fixed this problem and holy cow the difference! Not just in volume but also how controlled smooth balanced and more dynamic the whole system sounds now! Thank you so much I hugely appreciate you putting this video up thank you! You’ve got another subscriber :-)
@@TechnoDadI just got your Spatial Audio calibration disc (thank you!) and it’s shown a very interesting thing during the panning section. I have a 5.1.4 with Denon X8500HA. The instant the sound moves from front speakers and starts to move towards the rear surrounds the sound instantly snaps to the rear speakers?! No transition at all?!! I thought it would be still a transition of some kind. But it’s not half way that it snaps to rears it’s the moment it starts to move away from 100% front!? What is wrong how can I fix this?! Or is this just a result of running 5.1.4 and not 7.1.4?! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I m gonna have to check mine , when i get home. I just had my system professional tuned last wk a 7.4.4 with a mini hd 2x4 . An dam idk why i waited so long to have that done . So much better Separation in the channels, i can actually hear atmos now. I highly recommend these guys cd or getting professional tuned cause it makes a big difference. I gained 30 db on my subs , lost a lil low end but its way better
@@TechnoDadso i have the marantz sr 6013 . Go to audio , & then surround parameter. The only thing in mine is cinema eq & low frequency effects . Mine must not have what yours does ! Dam... but my cinema eq is off & low frequency effects is at 0 db
Please help me i bought the second amplificatore denon and Onkyo subwoofer not working at all while the subwoofer is working on 4 ohm + 4 ohm not 8 ohm thanks for the advice to us across all videos from Italia
Good Night i have a Marantz Sr5015 and that option doesn't apear in Audio/Surrond Parameter, only Cinema Eq, Low Frequency Effects and Speaker Virtualizer, i'm watching bluray Roger Waters Us+Them and it is on Dolby Atmos what i am doing wrong?
I've had my Denon 4700h for about 18 months and really thought it was setup as good as possible for my space. Conversely, I have always been disappointed with how narrow Atmos stuff sounded, and how stupidly high I had to crank the volume. This... has been a game changer. Thank you so much for this tip. I'm now off to re-watch all my Atmos 4k movies. 😂
This is amazing thank you I always wondered about the volume discrepancy between Atmos signal and everything else on my 2700, but never would have thought there was also compression involved! Mental! I wonder what the perceived benefit of this is from the manufacturers standpoint to enable it by default
@@TechnoDadI’ve always suspected it’s to prevent the newbies from damaging their speakers. I remember early in the DVD format some users were complaining about how certain passages in discs like the Matrix blew their TV speakers or their new ‘under-powered’ soundbar audio components. Started seeing more discs include a 5.1 mix and a separate stereo mix after that as well since I think some of the on-the-fly player down-mixing caused some channels to overload if the disc wasn’t mastered correctly for down-mixing.
Apparently I'm doing something wrong or I'm not feeding my 4700 proper Atmos because I don't have that option under surround Parameter on mine. I fed it Dolby Atmos from my Roku Ultra, the display says Atmos but the option doesn't show up.
Wow! What a difference! Thanks for letting us know how to find that setting. I did not understand from the earlier video with Joe N Tell. It wasn’t showing up on my AVR-X6700H.
im kinda sad!! because this made no difference for me.. im like thinking of returning, my x3800h and just got it!! my old harman kardon avr170, was so insane loud compared to the denon.. the denon has no power what so all!! it plays patheticly low volume, even after doing this...
Note: This setting affects how the AVR reacts to the "DialNorm" setting in an Atmos soundtrack. With loudness management off, the AVR should ignore the DialNorm setting and play Atmos soundtracks at the same level through all speakers. However, not all AVRs can properly turn loudness management off, even if it looks like it is off, it is not. When loudness management is On (or can't be turned off), height effects will play at a lower level.
Depends on the content. I noticed it much more when I was playing periodic pink noise found on our SACT disc. That is playing all frequencies at once, so it’s much more noticeable when using that. In normal content, it’s harder to judge.
I've had at least 3 different Denon/Marantz receivers and this setting has ALWAYS been OFF by default. Are Sound United are sending out regional configurations ? Or are people just switching it on without knowing what it does.
I've recently made comments about how much better Auro 3D is over Atmos. With this setting of loud management turned off, would you say that Atmos is now on par with Auro 3D? What is your preferred upmixer now?
I'm still using Auro-3D for a lot of things. Again, since I left my home, I was not able to get a lot of my physical media or my hard drives with all my movies. It's hard to say unless I have some content to watch.
I just got a chance to compare the two outputs, and to me the Auro 3D still stands out, but have loud management off does improve the Atmos experience.
Its under audio adjust in the dolby section. Mine was already off. I'm not real thrilled with my pioneer in general. Was hoping it was part of the issue.
Is there a hidden selector for choosing between 4K: Standard or 4K: Enhanced on a Denon X6700H or Marantz SR8015 as is on my Onkyo TX-NR787. Because I’m in the process of returning the Denon because the video appeared soft on my Sony XBR65X950G which wasn’t present with the Onkyo. I noticed on your display of a Denon menu in this video that it appears to be sharper then what I had. 2:57
Cool, I could tell the diference by turned the surround parameter off. What is your view on Dynamic Volume within the Audyssey Volume? Should it set off as well? This feature automatically adjusting between quiet and lound passages, would this feature decompress the sound signals?
How old of a Denon AVR would this apply? Mine dates back a ways. It's the AVR-S720W I bought somewhere in the mid-20teens. I'm using Polk Audio speakers in a 5.1 setup in my smallish apt. I would need to go through the settings but I don't recall seeing it. . Also, from time to time, my left surround channel cuts out while all the others are fine. It's been going on for several months. i thought it was oxidized speaker wire because it was pretty green so I replaced it. It seemingly worked but not for long. It's frustrating having to restart it or go the audio test setting, crank up the volume until it kicks in, then drop it back down again. I'm not an electronics troubleshooter on that level. It could be a FET, some other processor, or even a circuit board trace. It replaced a Yamaha RX-V867 when the sound would go completely out sometimes when using the DVR. I don't remember if it happened when watching DVDs. I was so long ago but it may have had to do with the circuit that handles the HDMI inputs.
Thanks T dad !! You’re the reason I bought my denon Thanks for the update, Yes it was on , I think through the calibration set up . Have a great and funky day ❤🎉🌅🏝️😉
What am I doing wrong please? By streaming I have plenty of Dolby stuff, including Atmos. How do I input them in order to turn Loudness Management off then Dynamic Compression off. If I am viewing them and then press the Setup button on the remote of my Marantz NR1711, go to Audio, I don't see LM. Do I need an input for the signal connected direct to the AVR? Shouldn't the signals from the TV be going to the AVR for processing via the HDMI eARC? I do not play BluRays.
Very informative video. Sir Im using auro 3d in denon 4700h amp . Im having 7.2.6 with external amp. My query is 1) my subwoofer setting is LFE+main. Should i make it LFE 2) my front and cantre speaker is set to large. Should i put to small 3)my surround cross over is 110 and rest all is 80.should i make all to 80.im using klipsch speakers 4)finally why low sound coming from front middle and rear height speakers when volume is fine
I have a stereo system with a 2 channel integrated amplifier. Thinking of getting an AVR with preouts to add .1 channel and increase dialogue levels without adding a center channel. Will dialogue enhancer or dialogue normalization correction offset features help? Thanks!
Apparently I'm doing something wrong or I'm not feeding my 4700 proper Atmos because I don't have that option under surround Parameter on mine. I fed it Dolby Atmos from my Roku Ultra, the display says Atmos but the option doesn't show up. Posted this here too so hopefully someone can tell me what to do to enable the option.
Good afternoon TD. I want to complete a major calibration. However, with Dirac Live, Dirac Bass Control. Mini DSP, and your Spatial Audio Calibration. I'm a little confused. Do I need to Dirac Live and Dirac Bass Control, then use your disc??
Hey techno dad, read up on what dialnorm is, and how it’s a part of loudness mgt. it’s not compressing the sound. If the compression setting is off with loudness mgt on there is no compression. There is metadata from the source that controls what I’m talking about.
this is off topic, but when I look out to decide to buy an amp or an AVR, it's boggling the mind that an amp, like the Bluesound Powernode Edge at $649, providing less wattage power, having less ports and speaker outputs, costs more than an AVR at $300 that could supply more watts
Dude, I had no idea this was a thing. I changed it, didn't notice much differnce in the clip I had on, but yeah I don't want it compressing my dynamic range so shut it right off. Thanks guys.
Hey Techno Dad! I’m cooling my jets while I await arrival of my spatial audio calibration disk - thank you in advance!! - is this change (turning loudness management off) something that just needs to be done once?I have a marantz av7706. So if I get this right, insert atmos disk into player, enter setup on AVR, select audio, select surround parameters, turn off loudness management and cinema eq, exit out from menu? Thanks again!
Hi Techno Dad, I switched off the Loudness on my Pioneer Elite AVR and boom definite change. I will have to re-calibrate using Spatial just a tad. Oh, by the way, your new Atmos Video you made is KICK ASS!! BRILLIANT!
Wow! I was about to buy a whole new receiver. I've had mine for almost four years and I couldn't figure out why the volume was so low. It's been unbearable since I moved to remove spot. I thought it would acoustics thing. Good looking techno dad
This is like how on TVs, you have to run them in SDR, HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, and HLG modes to properly calibrate them. In the web world, we have this concept of tabs. They allow you to switch between various settings screens; it'd be nice if I could modify Atmos settings without playing Atmos content. IMAX Enhanced is the same! Does this also enable for DTS:X? What about Auro-3D mode?
Oh yeah, it is annoying. It’s the same with Auro-3D, you need that type of content playing in order to make adjustments to the surround mode. I get what they are doing, but it’s still a PITA.
Hi Techno, i wanted to ask your opinion, here goes. I have a Denon x6700 (always had onkyo for years but the Denon is real good, not sure if its better than the flagship 5009 Onkyo) but iam enjoying it. I have 5.1 M&K 150s, 150 mk2 sub and ss150 surrounds. Love them, best AV purchase ever, had them 15 years now and still amaze me. If i wanted atmos heights what brand and type if i went 2 heights or would you go 4??? Cant afford m&k for my heights man🙂👍👍 kind Regards Ben UK
Hi Techno Dad, WOW, turned off loudness compression, you’ve just transformed my Denon A110 and svs ultra/elevations/dual sb3000, 7.2.8, I can hear Atmos now, so I have to watch my 4k blu rays again.
Wow, did not even know that was a thing, I was looking for something else altogether. As stated in the video, make sure you are playing Dolby Atmos audio to get this option, I tried without and the option did not appear. Turned off the Loudness Management and it was definitely louder; cheers pal!
I have a Denon X4400H, I set it to off. I even set Cinema EQ to off. But didn't notice anything different. Played 2 movies on atmos parts back and forth toggling with settings on and off in comparison but didn't hear anything different.
Hey im using Onkyo RZ 50 and i was watchinh Reached in tat.. but after calibration with dirac i dint even hear any sound frm my surrounds . As for now im usiing 5.0 set up ! I kept more decibles too. This s be becoz of lossy audio thru prime video or any setting i need to look up !?! Kindlt clarify
Hi techno dad got a question for u just got a sony 85 z9k 8k tv and runin a denon 8500 8k how do i display upscaled 8k? i have a 48g hdmi cable when i switch to 8k from denon screen goes black if i use the pass thru the denon i only get 4k help
Hi David, great question! Make sure you have it set to 8K output in the HDMI settings. If you can't find that, please email me and send over some pics so I can see what's up - TechnoDad55 at gmail dot com.
Hey Channa thanks for the heads up. My 😎Marantz SR-5015 had it on default. Turned it off then played the beginning scene of Morbius when the bats come flying out of the cave. WOW!
Thankfully it was already off. Thought this was the new “dynamic volume” at first, but I see that’s still a separate setting. I like that one set to Low for regular TV watching.
the links under you marantz avr's don't work please fix
Done and done! Here there are:
Marantz AVRs:
NR1510 (Older Model) - amzn.to/46Uus3X
Cinema 70S (2022 Model) - howl.me/clcZL5y4qwy
SR5015 (2020 Model) - amzn.to/41pPRkk
Cinema 60 (2022 Model) - howl.me/clcZKxD0nso
SR6015 (2020 Model) - amzn.to/46YjBWM
Cinema 50 (2022 Model) - howl.me/clcZMSYeULl
SR7015 (Auro-3D) - amzn.to/3RqyD1W
Cinema 40 (2022 Model) - howl.me/clcZOAD2Zvg
Marantz Preamp/Processors:
AV7706 (2020 Model Needs Amplifier Auro-3D) - amzn.to/3RIeVQs
AV8805A (2020 Model Needs Amplifier Auro-3D) - amzn.to/473ppye
AV10 (2022 Model Needs Amplifier Auro-3D) - howl.me/clcZRihpfv5
AMP10 (2022 Model Amplifier) - howl.me/clcZR2Y4rty
I went straight to the lounge put in Top Gun Maverick with Atmos with the volume down and went through and turned this off. If someone can give me the reasoning for this option and others to only come up when an Atmos source is actually playing I would love to know! It seems insane to me that such an important setting would not only be on by default, But there should be somewhere in bold letters for every new user of an amp with this software to see! Thanks to you and your guest I’ve fixed this problem and holy cow the difference! Not just in volume but also how controlled smooth balanced and more dynamic the whole system sounds now! Thank you so much I hugely appreciate you putting this video up thank you! You’ve got another subscriber :-)
Welcome! I’m glad I could help. And yes, it’s a mystery to me why they wanna mess with everyone like this…
@@TechnoDadI just got your Spatial Audio calibration disc (thank you!) and it’s shown a very interesting thing during the panning section. I have a 5.1.4 with Denon X8500HA. The instant the sound moves from front speakers and starts to move towards the rear surrounds the sound instantly snaps to the rear speakers?! No transition at all?!! I thought it would be still a transition of some kind. But it’s not half way that it snaps to rears it’s the moment it starts to move away from 100% front!? What is wrong how can I fix this?! Or is this just a result of running 5.1.4 and not 7.1.4?! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Could you guys please do a full in depth setup guide for us new to home theater? On best settings for Marantz Denon AVR for Dolby atmos setups
That's a great suggestion! Will work on that!
I m gonna have to check mine , when i get home. I just had my system professional tuned last wk a 7.4.4 with a mini hd 2x4 . An dam idk why i waited so long to have that done . So much better Separation in the channels, i can actually hear atmos now. I highly recommend these guys cd or getting professional tuned cause it makes a big difference. I gained 30 db on my subs , lost a lil low end but its way better
Come back and let us know if the professional had this setting on or off.
@@TechnoDadso i have the marantz sr 6013 . Go to audio , & then surround parameter. The only thing in mine is cinema eq & low frequency effects . Mine must not have what yours does ! Dam... but my cinema eq is off & low frequency effects is at 0 db
Please help me i bought the second amplificatore denon and Onkyo subwoofer not working at all while the subwoofer is working on 4 ohm + 4 ohm not 8 ohm thanks for the advice to us across all videos from Italia
Good Night i have a Marantz Sr5015 and that option doesn't apear in Audio/Surrond Parameter, only Cinema Eq, Low Frequency Effects and Speaker Virtualizer, i'm watching bluray Roger Waters Us+Them and it is on Dolby Atmos what i am doing wrong?
I have Audyssey turned off, maybe that's the issue.
under "surround parameter" there's only the option to turn on or off the sub, nothing else.
Dude. thank you so much for making this video. we always felt that the volume has been lower since we last calibrated it. bang on mate. thanks heaps!
You are ver welcome!
Thanks Channa, finally got a X3800H and enjoying the Atmos sound. Especially in music. Thank you for all your advice.
I've had my Denon 4700h for about 18 months and really thought it was setup as good as possible for my space. Conversely, I have always been disappointed with how narrow Atmos stuff sounded, and how stupidly high I had to crank the volume. This... has been a game changer. Thank you so much for this tip. I'm now off to re-watch all my Atmos 4k movies. 😂
Almost like having new ears huh?
I tried this on my new X4800H but when I changed it to “off” my volume didn’t change. I still have to go up to like 62 to get decent sound.
Channa, WOW! Thanks so much for sharing this tip. I immediately made this adjustment to my Denon AVRX-8500HA.
Glad it helped!
This is amazing thank you I always wondered about the volume discrepancy between Atmos signal and everything else on my 2700, but never would have thought there was also compression involved! Mental! I wonder what the perceived benefit of this is from the manufacturers standpoint to enable it by default
Maybe it’s on by default to make sure people don’t mess up speakers? I don’t really know?
@@TechnoDadI’ve always suspected it’s to prevent the newbies from damaging their speakers. I remember early in the DVD format some users were complaining about how certain passages in discs like the Matrix blew their TV speakers or their new ‘under-powered’ soundbar audio components.
Started seeing more discs include a 5.1 mix and a separate stereo mix after that as well since I think some of the on-the-fly player down-mixing caused some channels to overload if the disc wasn’t mastered correctly for down-mixing.
marantz sr7005 dont support 4k .. got any tricks for that ?
Immediately got out of bed and made this adjustment. Denon X4700H just got more valuable with a single setting. Thank you!
I have the same and just did the same thing and well it works.
Good stuff!!!
I have X4700H too, it was off on mine, maybe I already changed it or it was off by default ...
@@seantong6105 maybe...
Apparently I'm doing something wrong or I'm not feeding my 4700 proper Atmos because I don't have that option under surround Parameter on mine. I fed it Dolby Atmos from my Roku Ultra, the display says Atmos but the option doesn't show up.
Wow! What a difference! Thanks for letting us know how to find that setting. I did not understand from the earlier video with Joe N Tell. It wasn’t showing up on my AVR-X6700H.
Glad it was helpful!
im kinda sad!! because this made no difference for me.. im like thinking of returning, my x3800h and just got it!! my old harman kardon avr170, was so insane loud compared to the denon.. the denon has no power what so all!! it plays patheticly low volume, even after doing this...
But wait, how do you actually set new db levels? Using the pink noise from the denon receiver or the pink noise from the disc you are playing?
Speaker sticks, I like it. Thanks for the compression hint.
Hi how about Onkyo AVR should the Loudness Management be off?
I leave Loudness Management turned off on my Pioneer receiver too
have a ? to ask so i have a pair rp 1400 does it matter if the sub are inside and tower are or the other way which is better
Note: This setting affects how the AVR reacts to the "DialNorm" setting in an Atmos soundtrack. With loudness management off, the AVR should ignore the DialNorm setting and play Atmos soundtracks at the same level through all speakers. However, not all AVRs can properly turn loudness management off, even if it looks like it is off, it is not. When loudness management is On (or can't be turned off), height effects will play at a lower level.
hmm my cinema 50 doesn't have loudness management unless it's called something else or idk wtf I'm doing ha
Joe and Techno Dad did it again. HOLLY SMOKES!
That is why my sound is so low. I have to put the volume on 60 to get decent sound.
Thank you.
Yup!
Made no difference on mine... Wonder why?
Depends on the content. I noticed it much more when I was playing periodic pink noise found on our SACT disc. That is playing all frequencies at once, so it’s much more noticeable when using that. In normal content, it’s harder to judge.
I have a Denon and never knew about this setting. It works!!!
Nice!
Don’t have that settings on my Marantz cinema 70s
I tried this just now and WOW! All of a sudden my Atmos speakers came alive and my subs got punchier. Thanks for this advice.
Glad it helped!
Interesting. Somebody reply to this tonight so i can remember to check this 😂
Check this tonight
change the air filters too
Also check the batteries in your smoke detector
@@angelajudetv Great Alarm we are. Did u do it? :)
It's not compression, it's the "dialnorm" setting embedded in the Atmos metadata that causes loudness management to dim the volume.
I was going to mention this as well. It’s why the default setting is on with compression off.
How about marantz processor?
I've had at least 3 different Denon/Marantz receivers and this setting has ALWAYS been OFF by default. Are Sound United are sending out regional configurations ? Or are people just switching it on without knowing what it does.
I’m not sure! Could be regional, could be a random update that turns it on.
thanks Sir. i have changed the settings in my AVR Marantz
You are welcome!
I've recently made comments about how much better Auro 3D is over Atmos. With this setting of loud management turned off, would you say that Atmos is now on par with Auro 3D? What is your preferred upmixer now?
I'm still using Auro-3D for a lot of things. Again, since I left my home, I was not able to get a lot of my physical media or my hard drives with all my movies. It's hard to say unless I have some content to watch.
I just got a chance to compare the two outputs, and to me the Auro 3D still stands out, but have loud management off does improve the Atmos experience.
i just did that change and i do notice the difference on my denon avr thx alot
Anytime!
Just changed the setting. Afterwards I adjusted my levels with spl meter. Sounds great thank you!
Excellent!
Even in a small bedroom. @TechnoDad is killing it. 😂😂😂 you can't shutdown a man on a mission!!! ❤❤❤
Thank you!
My Denon so old it can't even do that
I'm gonna have to check this on my Pioneer. Ive noticed atmos is always quiet. Especially on dialog
Yes, please do! Also, let me know where it is in the Pioneer menu. I don't have my Pioneer anymore...
Its under audio adjust in the dolby section. Mine was already off.
I'm not real thrilled with my pioneer in general. Was hoping it was part of the issue.
Is there a hidden selector for choosing between 4K: Standard or 4K: Enhanced on a Denon X6700H or Marantz SR8015 as is on my Onkyo TX-NR787. Because I’m in the process of returning the Denon because the video appeared soft on my Sony XBR65X950G which wasn’t present with the Onkyo. I noticed on your display of a Denon menu in this video that it appears to be sharper then what I had.
2:57
Thankyou. I dodnt know this was here as it only shows when Atmos is on. Turned it off now 😉
Nice!!
I have a Marantz SR6013 and sadly i dont see this, all i see is the cinema EQ? I have a 7.2.4 system?
Cool, I could tell the diference by turned the surround parameter off. What is your view on Dynamic Volume within the Audyssey Volume? Should it set off as well? This feature automatically adjusting between quiet and lound passages, would this feature decompress the sound signals?
How old of a Denon AVR would this apply? Mine dates back a ways. It's the AVR-S720W I bought somewhere in the mid-20teens. I'm using Polk Audio speakers in a 5.1 setup in my smallish apt. I would need to go through the settings but I don't recall seeing it.
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Also, from time to time, my left surround channel cuts out while all the others are fine. It's been going on for several months. i thought it was oxidized speaker wire because it was pretty green so I replaced it. It seemingly worked but not for long. It's frustrating having to restart it or go the audio test setting, crank up the volume until it kicks in, then drop it back down again. I'm not an electronics troubleshooter on that level. It could be a FET, some other processor, or even a circuit board trace. It replaced a Yamaha RX-V867 when the sound would go completely out sometimes when using the DVR. I don't remember if it happened when watching DVDs. I was so long ago but it may have had to do with the circuit that handles the HDMI inputs.
Thanks T dad !!
You’re the reason I bought my denon
Thanks for the update,
Yes it was on , I think through the calibration set up .
Have a great and funky day ❤🎉🌅🏝️😉
What am I doing wrong please? By streaming I have plenty of Dolby stuff, including Atmos. How do I input them in order to turn Loudness Management off then Dynamic Compression off. If I am viewing them and then press the Setup button on the remote of my Marantz NR1711, go to Audio, I don't see LM.
Do I need an input for the signal connected direct to the AVR? Shouldn't the signals from the TV be going to the AVR for processing via the HDMI eARC?
I do not play BluRays.
Very informative video. Sir Im using auro 3d in denon 4700h amp . Im having 7.2.6 with external amp. My query is
1) my subwoofer setting is LFE+main. Should i make it LFE
2) my front and cantre speaker is set to large. Should i put to small
3)my surround cross over is 110 and rest all is 80.should i make all to 80.im using klipsch speakers
4)finally why low sound coming from front middle and rear height speakers when volume is fine
I didn't notice much, if any, difference between loudness management On and Off in a 7.2.4 setup with the X3700H
Great video as usual. Am wondering if there is way to fix audio delay (lip sync) on Denon AVR-X3600h receiver????
Hi, please Denon avr or marantz avr which one is good for music under $600 please help me and thanks.
I have a stereo system with a 2 channel integrated amplifier. Thinking of getting an AVR with preouts to add .1 channel and increase dialogue levels without adding a center channel.
Will dialogue enhancer or dialogue normalization correction offset features help? Thanks!
Apparently I'm doing something wrong or I'm not feeding my 4700 proper Atmos because I don't have that option under surround Parameter on mine. I fed it Dolby Atmos from my Roku Ultra, the display says Atmos but the option doesn't show up.
Posted this here too so hopefully someone can tell me what to do to enable the option.
Good afternoon TD. I want to complete a major calibration. However, with Dirac Live, Dirac Bass Control. Mini DSP, and your Spatial Audio Calibration. I'm a little confused. Do I need to Dirac Live and Dirac Bass Control, then use your disc??
This doesn’t seem to work on my Denon X3300W it seems. Can’t find compression or loudness control.
Hey techno dad, read up on what dialnorm is, and how it’s a part of loudness mgt. it’s not compressing the sound. If the compression setting is off with loudness mgt on there is no compression. There is metadata from the source that controls what I’m talking about.
I go to audio, then sound parameter but it only has subwoofer nothing else? I’m using denon 3600, help please, how do I engage it to come on
this is off topic, but when I look out to decide to buy an amp or an AVR, it's boggling the mind that an amp, like the Bluesound Powernode Edge at $649, providing less wattage power, having less ports and speaker outputs, costs more than an AVR at $300 that could supply more watts
This whole time I've had this on. Thank you guys. I never knew my Marantz had this as a default.
Seems odd, right?
kinda a biter sweet tip! lol!
thanks!
larry
Same here. Just checked it and it was on
@@zelko0768 me too
I couldn’t find it in my Marantz settings.🤔I have the 5015. Is it too hold to have that setting?
Deos running Audyssey change the Marantz warm sound signature
Dude, I had no idea this was a thing. I changed it, didn't notice much differnce in the clip I had on, but yeah I don't want it compressing my dynamic range so shut it right off. Thanks guys.
Had already done this - but some great advice!
Need to say......HOLY CRAP THE CAMERA!
You two look soooooo crisp.
Dad, you truly PASTA test!! (A little humor).
Glad to see more of your videos
I hope YT is showing you guys more now that I am making more videos...
To see this option do you need to be playing atoms content?
Correct!
Mine was on! grr!!
Hey Techno Dad! I’m cooling my jets while I await arrival of my spatial audio calibration disk - thank you in advance!! - is this change (turning loudness management off) something that just needs to be done once?I have a marantz av7706. So if I get this right, insert atmos disk into player, enter setup on AVR, select audio, select surround parameters, turn off loudness management and cinema eq, exit out from menu? Thanks again!
I bought a cinema 40 and always thought the volume on atmos was off .. Now I know why😂 thx for the tip
Giddy-up’
Where did you find the setting? I have a cinema 50
found it nvm ty
@@McRibHunter Nice!
I did switch it off on my cinema 50.. and wow the beginning of Bladerunner opened up even more.. :-) very good tip!
thanks , is this only for atmos, or does it also affect DD+ and other dolby formats?
Hi Techno Dad, I switched off the Loudness on my Pioneer Elite AVR and boom definite change. I will have to re-calibrate using Spatial just a tad. Oh, by the way, your new Atmos Video you made is KICK ASS!! BRILLIANT!
Hello, just turned this off on my new denon. Do I need to use the setup mic again or not?
will this be the same for the Onkyo rz50 ?
Wow! I was about to buy a whole new receiver. I've had mine for almost four years and I couldn't figure out why the volume was so low. It's been unbearable since I moved to remove spot. I thought it would acoustics thing. Good looking techno dad
Glad I could help!
I never had it on
Same here...
It’s on by default. Check after you update the AVR, it might get turned back on…
@@TechnoDad checked it was off
Not on by default.
My denon reveiver under surround parameter only has cinema eq on or off?
In my AVR Yamaha, I am confident that there are a couple of options, besides turning off the EQ.
This is like how on TVs, you have to run them in SDR, HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, and HLG modes to properly calibrate them.
In the web world, we have this concept of tabs. They allow you to switch between various settings screens; it'd be nice if I could modify Atmos settings without playing Atmos content. IMAX Enhanced is the same! Does this also enable for DTS:X? What about Auro-3D mode?
Oh yeah, it is annoying. It’s the same with Auro-3D, you need that type of content playing in order to make adjustments to the surround mode. I get what they are doing, but it’s still a PITA.
Hi Techno, i wanted to ask your opinion, here goes.
I have a Denon x6700 (always had onkyo for years but the Denon is real good, not sure if its better than the flagship 5009 Onkyo) but iam enjoying it.
I have 5.1 M&K 150s, 150 mk2 sub and ss150 surrounds.
Love them, best AV purchase ever, had them 15 years now and still amaze me.
If i wanted atmos heights what brand and type if i went 2 heights or would you go 4??? Cant afford m&k for my heights man🙂👍👍 kind Regards Ben UK
Hi! I would go 4 heights if possible. I wouldn’t know what speakers would match the M&Ks…other than M&Ks. Can you get used M&Ks?
Hi.. should I keep Cinema eq off as well..?
Hi Techno Dad, WOW, turned off loudness compression, you’ve just transformed my Denon A110 and svs ultra/elevations/dual sb3000, 7.2.8, I can hear Atmos now, so I have to watch my 4k blu rays again.
Awesome! Great news!
Why are you in Eco Auto?
No reason. I think I turned it off later
Game changer. 👍🏾
I think so!
Wow, did not even know that was a thing, I was looking for something else altogether. As stated in the video, make sure you are playing Dolby Atmos audio to get this option, I tried without and the option did not appear. Turned off the Loudness Management and it was definitely louder; cheers pal!
Nice! Glad I could help!
I have a Denon X4400H, I set it to off. I even set Cinema EQ to off. But didn't notice anything different. Played 2 movies on atmos parts back and forth toggling with settings on and off in comparison but didn't hear anything different.
It’s harder to hear with normal content. I used pink noise because it’s easier to notice the difference as it’s all frequencies at once.
Well I'll be a sun of a beeeotch.... That's a horse of a different color! Thank You. Mr techno Pappi and Mr Magic Beens for your tutelage!
You are very welcome!
Does it work if Audyssey isn’t on?
Hey im using Onkyo RZ 50 and i was watchinh Reached in tat.. but after calibration with dirac i dint even hear any sound frm my surrounds . As for now im usiing 5.0 set up ! I kept more decibles too. This s be becoz of lossy audio thru prime video or any setting i need to look up !?! Kindlt clarify
That’s pretty odd. I had the Pioneer version and it was able to run 7.1.4 with Dirac.
Jesus, the difference in my 4800 is enormous!! Do I need to run the calibration again with this setting Off?
Yeah, probably…
sum a B.. yup, there it is... will test after wife and kids leave the house (on by defualt) --- Marantz cinema 50
Nice!
I have Denon 3500H which is a 2018 model. I dont see this feature. Is it called something else on older models or just non-existant?
On my x7200WA there was a compression setting under the audessy menu
Does this work on the 3600H?
Ok Done but do you have to re-calibrate the speakers using the SPL meter ???
It's up to you, but I probably would.
Without watching this first, and I’m going to, my guess is the setting is dynamic volume? Lol
Close, it’s Loudness Management…
How do you set that dynamic compression to auto?
Does it work without the cal dvd?
Yeah you gotta turn that nonsense off. Sometimes it turns itself back on so you gotta check it periodically.
I think it might turn it delft on after an update or something like that…
Hi techno dad got a question for u just got a sony 85 z9k 8k tv and runin a denon 8500 8k how do i display upscaled 8k? i have a 48g hdmi cable when i switch to 8k from denon screen goes black if i use the pass thru the denon i only get 4k help
Hi David, great question! Make sure you have it set to 8K output in the HDMI settings. If you can't find that, please email me and send over some pics so I can see what's up - TechnoDad55 at gmail dot com.
Hey Channa thanks for the heads up. My 😎Marantz SR-5015 had it on default. Turned it off then played the beginning scene of Morbius when the bats come flying out of the cave. WOW!
Ayyy! Great to hear!
Speaker on a stick
At least you can get the position right through experimentation.
Correct!!
I will change this on my Marantz 6014.
Nice!
Thankfully it was already off. Thought this was the new “dynamic volume” at first, but I see that’s still a separate setting. I like that one set to Low for regular TV watching.
Yes, dynamic volume helps with regulating volume levels, especially for TV commercials.