I bought a Vanquest Mobius the other day to put together an EDC bag. And what was the first item I purchased to go in it??? That's right a Medical Gear Outfitters small red FAK!! Plus a Red Cross and a Skinny Medic patch!! I think this is a GREAT start!! Thanks SM for all the great vids and info! You and your wife make a great team!!
RE: BeachBow I am glad that you've asked such an important question because many other US-based companies don't do their own R&D in the US. They often 'rebrand' Chinese products as their own, instead of in-house R&D from the ground up. At Vanquest, we use many US-made materials such as MultiCam Cordura, Gladding paracord, and certain hardware. We then ship all materials to our factories in the Philippines and Taiwan. That's how we make Vanquest products more accessible to the public (e.g. without setting you back $200+ for a backpack) since we are committed to deliver excellent value for quality to our supporters.
I would rather pay a bit more and put Americans to work. I am COMPLETELY against outsourcing jobs to third world countries. Help our economy in this country first, we need it!
What a teaser! Can't wait for the real IFAK video! Mongoose, search "Abrasion + FIRE Torture Test: Vanquest Cordura Vs. Nylon" Jarhead6 has done a fire burning test on the Vanquest vs Maxpedition bag. The Maxpedition (nylon one) melted.
I am 99.9999999999% sure that khaki one is the Maxpedition Mini Pocket Organizer because I owned 3 of them. It's the Mini with front mesh pocket and label removed. By the way, PU coating is on the back side of the nylon, and has nothing to do with surface abrasion resistance. Please do your study.
***** Have you thought about doing your own test? In fact, someone in UK has done a Maxpedition vs Vanquest torture test back in 2013: "Maxpedition(1000-D Ballistic Nylon)VS Vanquest(1000-D CORDURA) Abrasion Torture Test" Those PU coatings you see on most tactical nylon bags, including Maxpedition and Vanquest, are coated on the BACK of the fabric to bind the fabric, making the fabric stiffer and more water-resistant. Higher-end gear manufacturers would also treat the surface, which is NOT covered in layers of PU, with Teflon or DWR to repel water. PU-coating is a standard finishing process done on most finished fabric used to make nylon gear. Instead of arguing about PU-coating is for "abrasion resistance", I suggest you call a few fabric mills and ask the head of R&D why they do PU coating on 1000-D nylon. Once you find out the answer, share with us here would you?
***** Someone told me lately that Vanquest's chief R&D person was the original founder & co-owner of Maxpedition.... Plus a few others who left Maxped joined Vanquest... I guess that explains why Maxpedition hasn't done anything new for a while.
Nice review! Looking forward to seeing the IFAKs review!
Very cool, SkinnyMedic ! Nice tests!
I bought a Vanquest Mobius the other day to put together an EDC bag. And what was the first item I purchased to go in it??? That's right a Medical Gear Outfitters small red FAK!! Plus a Red Cross and a Skinny Medic patch!! I think this is a GREAT start!! Thanks SM for all the great vids and info! You and your wife make a great team!!
ka5get Thank you for the kind words and support!
Interesting layout and cannot wait to see the review. Would be interested to see how saltwater effects them.
Noticed it said "Designed in USA", but didn't say "Made in USA", or did I miss something?
Hardly anything is made in this country anymore. It really is a sad thing
RE: BeachBow
I am glad that you've asked such an important question because many other US-based companies don't do their own R&D in the US. They often 'rebrand' Chinese products as their own, instead of in-house R&D from the ground up.
At Vanquest, we use many US-made materials such as MultiCam Cordura, Gladding paracord, and certain hardware. We then ship all materials to our factories in the Philippines and Taiwan.
That's how we make Vanquest products more accessible to the public (e.g. without setting you back $200+ for a backpack) since we are committed to deliver excellent value for quality to our supporters.
I would rather pay a bit more and put Americans to work. I am COMPLETELY against outsourcing jobs to third world countries. Help our economy in this country first, we need it!
What a teaser! Can't wait for the real IFAK video!
Mongoose, search "Abrasion + FIRE Torture Test: Vanquest Cordura Vs. Nylon" Jarhead6 has done a fire burning test on the Vanquest vs Maxpedition bag. The Maxpedition (nylon one) melted.
I am 99.9999999999% sure that khaki one is the Maxpedition Mini Pocket Organizer because I owned 3 of them. It's the Mini with front mesh pocket and label removed. By the way, PU coating is on the back side of the nylon, and has nothing to do with surface abrasion resistance. Please do your study.
*****
Have you thought about doing your own test? In fact, someone in UK has done a Maxpedition vs Vanquest torture test back in 2013: "Maxpedition(1000-D Ballistic Nylon)VS Vanquest(1000-D CORDURA) Abrasion Torture Test"
Those PU coatings you see on most tactical nylon bags, including Maxpedition and Vanquest, are coated on the BACK of the fabric to bind the fabric, making the fabric stiffer and more water-resistant. Higher-end gear manufacturers would also treat the surface, which is NOT covered in layers of PU, with Teflon or DWR to repel water. PU-coating is a standard finishing process done on most finished fabric used to make nylon gear.
Instead of arguing about PU-coating is for "abrasion resistance", I suggest you call a few fabric mills and ask the head of R&D why they do PU coating on 1000-D nylon. Once you find out the answer, share with us here would you?
***** Someone told me lately that Vanquest's chief R&D person was the original founder & co-owner of Maxpedition.... Plus a few others who left Maxped joined Vanquest... I guess that explains why Maxpedition hasn't done anything new for a while.
Water beading on #2