Technics SL1200mk7 review from DJ point of view
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Technics SL1200mk7 review from DJ point of view. Pointing on the main design flaws and giving usage impressions from DJ perspective. I am not a pro reviewer or media person and English is not my native, so you have to take this in mind.
Happy to hear a DJ's perspective on the MK7. You did a great job showing the MK7's quality and comparing it to the MK2!
Glad you liked it!
Wow, first time I'm hearing this. Thanks for the video.
perfect, this is exactly what i was wondering about! such a thorough comparison, thank you!!
This is probably one of the best and accurate reviews I've seen. Ive had 3 pairs of turntables, omnitronic (totally torqueless analogue locked a mixed perfectly) technics 1210 (biggest regret selling 20years ago) and audio technica at-lp140xp (hanpin motor constantly having to adjust the pitch and also fighting the turntable as when I slowed it down it caught back up again)
Seeing both turntables together like that showcases how bad modern equipment is
I like your description of the digital pitch control where it's a step up each time the hanpin models resolution is not great
Looking forward to more of your reviews👍
Hey hey, are you talking about the new at140 which has round start and technics style 33-45 buttons? I need your deep feedback on this one if possible. Especially regarding pitch accuracy.
@@champain7357 yes i am i tried to use it during 4 hour long mixes (1 hour x 4 evertime i reread that it sounded wrong) constantly had to adjust the pitch and if i slowed down the platter by touching it it would fight against it and then increase speed to get back to where it was its was shite its a hanpin turntable (infact most modern turntables are) if you can get a technics mk2 either 1200 or 1210 even beat up ones are better than any modern turntables ( i know everyone raves about them i get it but the reason why the mk2s were the industry standard is because they just worked despite being hammered and not due to some fancy effects or gadgetry). the lp140 target light when opened sound cheap like the springs were crunching on itself. i had a pair omnitronic turntables with zero torque but held time that were better than the lp140 (i moved to technics 1210 mk2s from them) just avoid the lp140 (and modern turntables) i put mine up for sale after 3 months of owning them and got rid bought a numark scratch mixer and gonna get a pair of rane twelves
I am intrigued! I have to buy this 140 and test if it is that bad 😄😄😄
You are absolutely right about the new mk7 and this lousy quality compared to the expensive price and the history of the brand is a huge shame. The mk7 is not a point of pride, but a shame!!!
Today, nothing matters except money and everything is deliberately produced in poor quality.
It's very good that you made this video, because if someone from "Technics" sees this, then maybe they will fix the errors... :)
I expect this is a minuscule part of Panasonic’s business now so the last time they will invest in turntables. Vinyl DJs will continue with old school refurbs or cheaper SuperOEMs.
Wow ! I thought I was only DJ thinking same things, my MK2’s still work after taking hard fall from crazy girl friend many years ago , I almost broke her fucking neck too ! I just bought one MK7 after your review I’m thinking of returning it . Great review and we all appreciate your time to explain what you found Good day sir 👍🏼
crazy bitches and nice decks don't go together...
Lol that's the craziest story ive heard so far! So how do you like mk7?
@@champain7357 I returned it for refund after doing full inspection , I agree with you MK7 is trash 🗑️ it can not compare with real Technics , and yes platter did not seem completely flat like my real Technics few days later I bought two beautiful MK3D from a woman for $1200
MK3D is a japan market model afaik. Are they 120V 60Hz? Do you use converters to power them or live in the USA?
Did you keep mk7?
Excellent review, very honest and well put together. I’ve just subscribed. Kg
That was the main point - to be honest. I am tired of all these reviews where the reviewers simply repeat official specs/promo pages without real usage.
thankyou very much for pointing out thre build quality.i almost bought a pair 2 years ago ,lifted up the turntable with a finger.thats all i needed to do to know how bad they are buiilt.they create alot of feedback as they are made of plastic ,almost hollow.tap on the turntable while you are mixing and you will notice feedback
Thank you for your honest opinion.
Just wanted to let you know THIS video made me stay away from buying MK7s. I waited months until I found the opportunity, and the last week I finally bought a pair of beautiful 1210 MK2s! They are from 1993, hardly used and only at home. I love them so much, I was able to make transitions longer than 2 mins without even touching the record. They are clocks. So well, thank you! \o/
Hehe congrats! How much you paid for a pair?
@@champain7357 1300. Great price for the excellent conditions. Well, can I ask you a question? The only thing I noticed on my Technics is that, while the 0 and +6 dots are perfectly stationary, the 3.3 and -3.3 are a bit off, the dots stops at around 2.5 on first deck and 4 on the other. They are some debates on the internet: some people say it's perfectly normal on the 1200, other say they might need calibration, but most of the time is impossibile to align +6 and +3.3 at the same time. I didn't notice something wrong while beatmatching, all good. What about your decks? Do the dots align at 3.3?
@@champain7357 1300. I don't know why my comment keeps getting deleted? By the way, I wanted to ask you, are the 3.3 dots aligned on your technics?
@@champain7357 1300 euros! Can I ask you, are your dots stationary at three point three? Mine are perfectly aligned at zero and six, but not on three point three (dots align around two)
Your comments are all here, at least i see three comments with the price and dots question. 1300 is a great price for a pair actually! I recently saw one mk2 player in a vinyl shop with 1300 eur price lol! So the dots: the next day i got them i disabled quartz and it decalibrated both pitches. I managed to realign zero points but 3.3 dots are now at around 2.5 position of the slider on both decks. +-6 dots are kinda aligned. So i think it is what you are talking about. I am fine with that.
Great video.
I'm recently on the lookout for a new tt and i'm curious about a comparison with the Pioneer PLX 1000...
Best hands on review. Very useful. Thank you. It would be nice to have a comparison with the GR model and the others “modern” models to estabilish which is the closest to MKII (which remain the benchmark of course).
After the MKII, did Technics made any other solid and reliable models?
I didnt have hands on experience, but m3d and mk5 are kinda better than mk2
@@champain7357thank you. I go search for some review on them.
My 35 year old mk2 looks and runs like it's new. What i love about the mk2 aside from its tank like build is that it's a pure analog deck and very easy to maintain.
The horror stores I've read about the mk7 disappoint me. Sadly the mk7 are made in Malaysia not Japan.
My mk2s are 37y and they are great. I dont think it matters where mk7 is made, you can have great quality product assembled in any country if it is designed properly and QA is strict. Unfortunately mk7 is simply designed as crap and QA is not the best or their acceptance criterias allow warped platters as qc passed.
@@champain7357 yup!
I have the same. What's your experience. Mine mk7 is a little bit different. It's from 2023 and i have the black version. That's all good
So, the MK7 is good or bad. It is all available for now, and we have nowhere to get a new MK2, right? So I am not really sure what you are complaining about.
I have a set of these mk7 1200s and absolutely love mine great for mixing
That is what really matters! If you like them then it is a good match
A few friends of me are international dj’s who are traveling the world and although they have MK2’s and MK5’s at home they are really happy with MK7’s in front of them. Especially because the pitch is so accurate and the sound quality (with good rca cables) is great.
Thats great :)
I recently bought new tables after having MkII's for years. I looked at and played with the new Mk7's and I ended up going with Reloop RP-7000 MKII's instead due to the Reloops just being built better and at a fraction of the cost. The buttons and feet and the whole table just feels better. Especially the buttons though the strobe tower is also plastic, but again just seems to be built better even though that part is plastic. the Mk7's are just not worth the cost unless the name is the only thing important to someone...
I have tested rp7mk2 too. What i didnt like is floating platter, empty left side (where buttons are on rp8) and double play-stop buttons. But main issue is their pitch which has quite big steps so you can forget precise mixing.
Build quality of rp7 is of course better than mk7 as well as vibration damping.
I have 2 black mk7s. Ive had them for 2 1/2 years now. I agree with everything you say. I wish they had been made better in terms of the build quality.
For mixing i find them to be the best new deck you can buy. The pitch is very good. I do prefer an original mk2 pitch though.
The bottom line is parts have run out for old models. Most are beat up. I had an aftermarket pitch put in the last mk2s i had and they were awful. I sold them as i couldnt mix on them. The only thing id swap the mk7s for is an all original, lightly used set of mk2s etc. Finding those is hard and expensive. I hope they bring a mk8 out. I hope its made in japan ... and ill think about buying them.
Wow that's a long term. How often do you mix on them? If frequently enough, do you already have any color washouts somewhere on the body? Around pitch for example.
@@champain7357 no colour washout.
I often tell people a good set of MKIIs is the way to go BUT, unless you find a mint set that’s been in someone’s living room unplayed for decades, expect to factor in another 200 each for a full service (an honest Technics guru will tell you if they need a mere tune up or a full service).
Bizarrely, when venues kit out NEW booths they still install MKIIs because 99% of vinyl DJs specify them. DJs that mostly play venues rather than ‘spaces’ (where you lug your own kit) still like to have exactly the same decks at home. The MKII mystique never faces.
As for pitch faders, pretty sure any Technics NOS stock is long gone now but there are well-engineered aftermarkets that claim to even improve on the original. Of course, some service centres will throw in a £15 part that’s half the weight of the original and will likely feel or even perform differently. Again, use a Technics guru for servicing who will be honest about what he is fitting.
And, see, this the problem: getting some MKIIs in 2024 can feel like a minefield of questions and uncertainty.
But here’s another thing: all turntables are trying to be a 1200. I once played big event and the decks were brand new Pioneer 1000s. Screwed in my Ortofons, used them like 1200s with no issues at all. We overthink equipment sometimes.
Iv just bought mk7 but unable to test as mixer not here yet, i had mk5's and sold the pair many years ago for £350 British pounds which i would not have done if id known they would be discontinued. They were heavy solid built turntables that i had for over 15 years with no need for any maintenance work, i took them to get checked and was given them back with no work needed at all no charge. I think the mk7s will meet my needs as the pitch accuracy is excellent and i will be using at home and if i go to the club i will use mk7 to transfer any vinyl i want to play to wav format and just use flash drive. I live close to neighbours so there will not be loud enough sound for feedback issues although ill probably change feet as extra precaution. I think my mk5 were more solid and heavy but i think weight difference is because of less metal used inside the mk7 as they dont run with same cogs and motor as mk5 as its digital, i think they should suit my setup at home as ill mainly use downloads on cdjs. For mixer and cdjs im using Alpha theta az standalone controller which is same mixer as pioneer a9 4 channel mixer and same cdjs as cdj3000 just slight different layout but basically the same with hot cues and pads below jog wheels instead of above. I do miss my mk5s but also i lost boxes of my best records at parties when i was too drunk, i dont drink at the club when i mix so always returned with vinyl in tact so im rebuilding my collection through download and buying second hand replacement vinyl for lost, some i cannot find some i forget the name but im getting there. I will probably keep vinyl at home in future and just transfer to wav when i dj, so mk7 should suit me for my setup
Dj point i dont know about it... But in Audiophile point it runs moving coil without any problems Baby.... Isonoe feet and solid rack is allways needed for any Hifi setup ... No worry's about....
Great review buddy! Loved it. I have few questions. 1) If the pitch on Mk7 has steps, do you have to move it more than Mk2 to change speed? 2) If the Mk2, even with very minimal movement changes speed shouldn't the Mk2 pitch be more precise? 3) So which pitch is more precise? Mk2 or Mk7?
Thanks! Regarding pitches: analog has infinite values range while digital is limited to resolution range. But analog needs calibration and depends on many parameters. Even temperature can affect resistance. i did not perform Lab Class comparisons and checks. But I fould mk7 pitch resolution precise enough for smooth long blend mixing.
Mk 7 has a much better pitch to answer your question mate, lol everything else is better on the mk2s or mk5s
Hi buddy just to let you know the mk7 turntables work perfect after setting them back to there factory settings, which you and your watchers can find on u tube. Otherwise fine. No they are not as robust as the mk 2. I’ve change the feet to mk2 feet which helps a lot. I suggest you reset your turntables if you still have them, that should solve a lot of your problems. Hope this helps, any more questions just ask.
nope, i had only one and returned it back. Glad you found a way to configue them for your needs
Technics MK 7 is perfect turntable for deejaing . Direct drive coreless motor , robust tonearm , rechangeble rca cables . Not feel cheap at all . Using pair MK7 for two years,i can honestly say that beat maching is bliss whith these . Pich fader is super precise (which is most important features a DJ needs)
Asides from the light weight resulting in horrible feedback in live circumstances. For home ya it might be good but once there is some serious vibrations your done for.
Technics DJ Turntables are rock solid build especially the early 1200's or even the 1210's The new DJ Turntable by Technics the MK7 is a very good build but I'm in total agreeance about some things on it would be above average this I'm sure is about cutting costs or something like that. DJ Turntables will never be made like the Mighty 1200's or as I said before the 1210's. I still have my 1210 MK2 bought from new from Derringers Keswick in Adelaide SA this Turntable never misses a beat its rock solid and I love it. I was running with the Turntable a Shure M447 Cartridge but I wasn't scratching like DJ's do but no longer made in Mexico if memory serves... You can still get them on eBay but quite expensive. A truly excellent review my friend keep up the good work. God bless.
Mk2 are usually cheaper than a new mk7. But it might get close. But it's up for the buyer to decide if they want a used table or brand new for around the same price.
@@jdsofar Yeah, the MK2 is cheaper by far to the MK7 but the MK2 is built solid like the early 1200's love these turntables thanks for reply
@@TomLymberopoulos-du5he It just depends right. I scooped up a mint Mk2 locally for 1000$ Canadian. It would cost me over 1600$ to buy a new Mk7 after tax. So in that comparison I feel like I struck gold. Ive also paid 2000$ for a mint Mk2. Which is a lot more but still to me some more $ for a more solid rare deck thats super mint is worth it when I plan on keeping a mint pair of mk2s that were both made in the early 2000s. So by the time im 45 which is 20 years from now Im sure they will still be super mint. But I also bought a mk7 just to absue, smash , scratch, and beat it to smithereens. The Mk7 and mk5 I own are my daily beat ups where I slam records down on too, rip them off with my bare hands, slam Ortofon Concodes down on them at 5g tracking force and my pair of mk2 are my love child. There's also a lot of junk, abused, and trashed Mk2 for sale which is most of them and me being super OCD I cant stand anything other than mint. One scratch or mark and I dont want it. Must be perfect.
@@jdsofar Thanks mate LOVELY
"where I slam records down on too, rip them off with my bare hands, slam Ortofon Concodes down on them at 5g tracking force" omg, i want to unsee it
I had a pair of 1210MK7R (Red Bull edition). They played well, but the cheap feeling overall, and the cheap target light, was something I couldn't get used to.
I sold them and purchased a pair of 1210GRs.
The MK7s should have never been made.
I would like to try GR and compare it to mk7 and mk2, but 1400eur for one deck is too much. I saw Mojaxx and Just Technics both saying GR is not good for DJing. It is kinda reincarnation of mk2 in terms of build quality but pitch resolution is not good enough for precise sync. I would like to hear from you how they are in mixing. Are you able to sync tracks and keep them locked for atleast 60 seconds? Are they "fighting the mix"? Any platter deformations? You could actually record a review based on mine :D
@@champain7357 I'll grant you that SL-1210GRs are expensive, but The SL1200s have always been expensive. In 1983, I paid over $400.00 each for my SL-1200MK2s. That's about $1200.00 in today's money.
As for Mojaxx and Just Technics' reviews. I would have to respectfully disagree with them both. Mojaxx complained about the GR feet being too soft for DJ use. I suspect that may have been due to reviewing a (probably well) used deck. I've experienced no such issues.
Just Technics issues, if I recall correctly, had to do with the digital pitch. I'll grant you that the digital pitch of the 1210GR is not the same as the analog pitch of the SL-1200MK2, but beat mixing is not impossible.
Out of the box, I found (yes, I looked) no strobe dot deformations, or any other Q.C. issues.
As far as a review, I'll point you to one that has already been done.
ua-cam.com/video/IjvfMqUUnQE/v-deo.html
...and As far as I know, you can no longer get factory parts for the mk2, only aftermarket parts.
This is true?
Thanks
Hey! Mostly yes, original parts are gone, they are no longer produced. But there are some replacements available, especially electronic components. And i think even pitch sliders are being made by one guy from UK i guess.
Just got 2 of these - only opened 1 box , but haven't set it up yet. Used my mint set of MK5's for the gig yesterday.
Your review has me thinking about returning them without wasting my time plugging them in and turning them on . . .
Well if you have mk7s delivered i think it would be logical step to open and do a couple of mixplays on them just to build your own opinion and also to compare with the points i said in my video. Maybe your platters are flat or maybe you will simply like them. I would find it out for sure.
Amazing review very detailed and honest based on direct experience & facts Good job 👍🏻
Your english is fine. I first saw the 1200 back in 1979 (I'm 63 now). I bought a brand new SL1200MK2 for my sound equipment in my bedroom and with the Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge with a nude stylus it sounds amazing. I still spin 80s vinyl but the MK 7 is awful and cheap. Matsushita/Panasonic made a big mistake stopping the 1200 MK 2.
I agree. When the new Technics came out I assumed they had just fired up the old production line with a few tweaks. That’s all people wanted. I suspect they threw away the old tooling, hence coming up with these rather different ‘new’ decks, which for the most part don’t offer anything more than the better-but cheaper-SuperOEMs.
I'm looking to buy Technics SL1200mk7 for my studio I see you review and I really disappointed by Technics. Maybe the pioneer PXL - crss12 or PLX 1000. Thank you for your review. well done
If you are going to mix on them I still would suggest mk7 over any hanpin (except maybe pxl 12, this one is an unknown beast)
I'm curious what kind of feedback the mk7b lambo will have
Haha, i saw that joke crap toy today on the web. I am pretty sure it will have good feedbacks! People spending 1.5k euro on painted mk7 will not realize how much they overpaid.
Hi, great review! A curious question: what's the difference between the MK2 and MK7 in practice? In particular, do you experience any difference in terms of pitch control granularity (fineness) between the analog one of the MK2 and the digital one of the MK7?
Hi, thanks! Mk7 was returned after this vid but i played on mk7 a lot while it was at home and in terms of pitch accuracy i would say mk7 is almost as mk2. Very good!
@@champain7357 Great, thx.
mk7 are worthless in dj setups... even in high volume home setups they do not isolate sound and vibrations. do not buy these. find mk5 or earlier.
Isonoe isolator feet will solve this problem. Although it’s a bit ridiculous to have to upgrade the feet just to have parity with the MKII or many of the top-end SuperOEMs.
un appunto sulla luce di destinazione dell Mk2 (un mio parente aveva il centro assistenza): lo scatto che faceva la torre per accendere la piccola lampadina, a lungo andare , andava a tagliare i due fili che erano nella torretta e quindi mandava tutto il giradischi in corto e bisognava smontarlo pezzo pezzo per ripararlo.... una pecca rande per l ottimo mk2
I did also the modification that you mentioned in my pair of 1210 mk2 with cuting one resistor and pitch wire. But i get impression that more often I have to correct the pitch while mixing. Did you notice any difference between mixing with modded and unmodded 1210 mk2 decks? Btw, sorry for my English, cheers
Bro, why would you say sorry about your english to the person whos english is not native? Regarding pitch: actually i noticed it yeah! But i modified my decks the next day i got them so i cant compare unfortunately and i was thinking this inability to pitch perfectly is because my decks are 37y old and pitch is either old or just needs servicing. Now i am not sure anymore. Maybe i should undo the mod on one deck and compare...
@@champain7357 my decks are about 20 years old and they both have new pitch. I think the instability occured because of quartz removal by doing the mod. I'm goin to get my decks back to original state, and I will share my conclusions with you
So any impressions after unmodding?
Unfortunately I have no time to unmod my decks, but all I can tell you is few weeks ago I had oportunity to play a mix on my friend's decks(unmodded) and I felt like there was almost no difference. So maybe it is allright to leave my decks as they are
I wouldn't touch anything else except the MK2. Having had mine since 1999 and playing out regulary, these are exceptional. I had at one mad time in my life to sell them, but everyday I am glad my Mrs. dissuaded me into making this huge error, as I am now playing out and streaming with tunes I bought from 98-2006!
I would like to try m3d and mk5 models in real life
Brilliant stuff!! Honest good review. I have 4 x 12.10. mk2 .. Two of them for 30 years. :) Go Reloop RP7000 MK 2 , Quality turntable. I also had these sent them back.
Wow, isnt 4 decks too much? Do you use them all at once or do you have 2 setups? Didnt understand what you had sent back :) rp7000 i guess?
Technics sl1200 mk7 are very expensive, over $1100 for one turntable, theres no excuse why the mk7 feels cheap compared to any 1200 mk2 - mk6. I was going to buy them but its not worth it to me. Mk7 should be $500 the most bc its a very cheap made turntable even though its good too but not for over $1000. I bought instead audio technica LP 140 turntables and there are identical to mk7 and half the cost and feels exactly like a mk7 even looks like a mk7 too.
Yeah i was very sad when i unboxed and assembled my mk7. But as i said to the other guy, these hanpin decks (reloop rp7000 or atlp140 and others) they all identical and their pitch steps are too big so you will struggle to sync tracks perfectly. But if you play hiphop or just do modern style 15sec transitions then you will be fine 😂
For pitching is de mk7 the best!
It may feel cheap but the sound mk 7 produce compared to the audio technica is no even close
I've had a chance to try a LP-140. Tonearm bearings were too tight, it had rather jerky movement across the platter. Zero-balanced tonearm couldn't be moved by simply tugging with finger, not to mention giving it a breath. No problem with mk7 however.
LP-140 was struggling few seconds to lock on steady speed after hitting start button. MK7 instantly locks on speed.
LP-140 had a strong "new" smell after unpacking, outgassing god knows what. MK7 was virtually odorless. While MK2 is superior to MK7, I wouldn't argue that, the MK7 itself is superior to whatever Audio Technica or Hanpin in general.
Nah whatever man just buy a pair using Affirm making monthly payments and call it a day. According to inflation they are basically the same price as a mk2 was back in the day. And what the F is 200$ a month for a year for 2 beautiful silver Mk7s that you can attach Ortofon Concode Club Mk2 too and call it a day. You can even change the LEDs on them to super-cool blue colour. And if your really hurting on cash that much after financing a pair for 200/month for a year you can always sell the dustcovers, slip mats, and headshells that come with the mk7 for easily 400$ total if not more and recoup some cash. I mean just visualize how amazing it would be looking at a shiny new pair on your table and dont even get me started on the euphoria you would receive but opening up a fresh pair straight from the box. Enjoy your new purchase buddy. Let me know when you get them :)
Mk11 always end of.mk7 is expensive cheap made not to last .shocking pitch digitally control again mk11 always been dj ing since 1999.good video
hi can you tellme the secret to adjust the 4 levels of torque that its suppose to have that model thanks
Hi, there is no secret at all. It is described step by step in the manual provided with MK7, I used that as a reference
The secret is a set of special tiny buttons beneath the platter. You have to remove the platter to access the special buttons. Then you carefully press these tiny buttons to adjust the torque of your mk7. There is also a super special button to turn the turntables strobe lights and zero pitch LEDs from red to blue. Blue looks much better.
When I mix I won’t ever touch the platter , I keep the tunes in time by using only the pitch
That's a skill!
@@champain7357 the only way to get a tune naturally in time and to stay in time . Big up 👍💙
Good review. I sold my 1200mk's a good few years ago and was looking at picking up a new set. To be honest if I want a "new" mk2 the GR2 would be the way to go but £1600 per turntable is too expensive.
1600 pounds can be reasonable price if you will get deck that will last 30+ years. But the issue/specific of GR is many reviewers out there say their pitch is not designed for DJs - they are hard to long blend. I would love to test them, but yeah :D
A very good channel called 'Just Technics' an engineer and DJ, who has done extensive tests and comparisons of all models.
Thanks for the reply keep the reviews coming. I bought a red and yellow one and I’m just setting them up. I’ll let you know my opinion,you can than add that to your reviews. Kg
So you bought M7L? For what kind of mixing: long blending, scratching, dvs?
@@champain7357 hi buddy yeah used to run 1210mk2 as well 1200 mk2 but had too sell to keep a roof over mine and my families head. Been saving for years to buy these. I mix more than scratch, no slip sheets just felt slip mats. Peace and love to you and yours. Kg
So how's your M7L after 6 months of use? Any long term impressions?
Is there any videos on removing the capacitor to stop the platter speeding up?
Yeah, a lot of them. I used the text/photo guide as a reference.
Man I been jammin on 12s for 32yrs as a turntablist and never knew anything about the table "Compensating" if i use finger on side of platter to pitch blend!? I dont think it does to be honest, at least it def doesnt on mk2s, and I dont feel that on mk7 or any other turntables..weird!? Lol and neva heard of a capacitor you modd to stop it lol..I built my Mk2s from nothing so I know all the parts! Pce Djs
If you want comparable, you need to jump up to the $4K model. Keep and maintain your MK2, people. :)
I bought the 1210 MK2s back in 1989 and used them for several years. I had the unfortunate idea of selling everything in the early 2000s and today at 51 years old I still feel a deep sense of guilt. They were my teenage dream and I regret them.
Do you think of buying a pair again? Or vinyl days are in thr past for you?
Спасибо за обзор. Но я так и не понял, лучше он чем мк2 или нет в плане синка? Ты говоришь, что ты в мк2 что-то куда-то припаял, если я правильно понял, и у тебя синк стал отличный. Но изначально то на мк2 ничего дополнительного не припаяно, значит с точки зрения синка мк7 будет лучше?
Следующий момент. Если выбирать между мк5 и мк7 с точки зрения синка, что будет лучше? Есть опыт с мк5? Ведь мк5 это улучшенная мк2, но питч такой же как на мк2, насколько я понимаю.
Синк - это прежде всего уши и навыки. Мк2 имеет такую же особенность как и мк7 - figting the mix. В мк2 я это убрал (отрезал один провод и выпаял резистор) и стало гораздо удобнее, но это не синк. В мк7 явно не убирается, но настройка мощности двигателя частично спасает ситуацию. Сам питч в мк2 и других моделях вплоть до m5g остаётся непревзойдённым, но в мк7 он тоже отличный. Я бы брал мк5, если бы нашёл, тк это в принципе вершина техниксового прогресса, но реального опыта у меня нет.
Под синком я имею ввиду питч, нормальную его работу, когда два трека держатся долго без расхождения. У меня были мк3 (купил бу естественно), и там была проблема с этим. Я делал техническую диагностику, ревизию. Все чистил и т.д. (не я лично конечно), калибровали питч. Но все равно, держали они плохо, поэтому я их продал. В клубе играл на разных, и 5, и 2 в том числе и все они держали отлично. Поэтому я сделал вывод, что те мк3, которые я купил себе домой, как ты их не калибруй, видимо уже свое отработали. Либо не то калибровали или нет так. Но это уже не важно. вот рассматриваю, что купить другое именно в сторону мк5. Пробовал m5g, у которых питч цифровой (в общем-то мне питч понравился, держит хорошо), он скорее всего как у мк7 (их я не пробовал еще), но m5g на порядок дороже мк5. Также есть мк6, и там питч такой же цифровой как и в m5g (судя по документам), но не удалось попробовать их в деле. Но на всех форумах как-то на мк6 не очень. Якобы уже это не то. А вот по питчу в мк7 я смотрел ДжастТехникс и там он хвалит питч мк7, как раз для дж. То что они пластиковые да. Но неужели они развалятся через пару лет как ты говоришь? Если их в стену кидать может и развалится.@@champain7357
Я не претендую на звание "специалист по Текникс", просто поделился своими наблюдениями и выводами. Мк7 могут и прослужить долгие годы, если с ними бережно обращаться. Но как я сказал в обзоре - это всё же инструмент, а по своей конструкции он ощущается хлипким. Запаса надёжности там нет, зато есть потенциально слабые места. Для дома играть - хороший аппарат, но не за тыщу евро. Плюс в случае поломки его уже на коленке не починишь, как те же мк2. Детали если и получится достать, то цена будет огого (это если не сдохнет материнка или контроллер на ней, тогда как и всё сейчас - на мусорку и за новым).
@@champain7357 так ты в итоге мк7 вернул в магазин, или она у тебя осталась? Месяц как видео вышло.
@@antonsataвернул через пару дней после записи обзора.
Great review ! Your English is fine .
Cutting corners to save a couple of bucks. So typical. Shame on you, Technics.
If they produce longer lasting turntables, how would they make more money? Think about that too lol. These corporations want consumers to keep buying their products frequently so they can make more money.
great review man! didn't think the mk7 sucks this bad... and to think you can get two decent mk2 for the price of a mk7. planned obsolescence is becoming worse and worse!
Well you can't nowadays as everybody understood the price of pre-mk7 decks. Recently saw used mk2 in good condition for 1300eur ONE player. How about that?!
I want a Mk7 just for the fact that its a brand new table and buying a new Mk2 is like 3-4k which is plain ridiculous so the only option realistically is to buy a used one but its hard to find them inn good condition or a reasonable price. So as much as I want a brand new turntable that I can unbox the Mk7 just seems so poor quality for the money. And the GR2 isn't worth 3K in my opinion when I have a mint Mk2 and mint mk5 already.
So why do you even need any mk7 if you already have mint mk2 & 5?
@ I want to keep the mk2 pristine and mint condition and want 2 more tables for scratching and mixing. Right now the mk2 and mk5 is on an audio rack and I don’t want to have to move them back and forth to a flat table Everytime I want to mix and scratch so I want 2 more to keep ona. Flat table with a mixer and use the mk2 and mk5 for daily listing on my audiophile setup
@@champain7357 I ended up buying another mint mk2 aswell as a mk7. So I now have 2 pristine black mk2s, an excellent condition black mk5, and a silver mk7. I will report back on how I like the mk7 when I get a feel for it
I would say "you are crazy having 4 decks" but unfortunately I am with you :D I have 2x mk2, 2x audio technica 140xp and 2x reloop rp4000. And 5 mixers. i need to sell most of this stuff lol :D :D
Hello, nice video ! , indeed , the platter is also on my 2 mk2 (2001/1995), and honestly make no problem..., and the On-Off button is in metal but yes it feel very plastic beceause of the paint i guess, but yes i dont like the feeling of the pop up Light !!!, but i love my mk2 and mk7 !!
Thanks for the review, you have right 1210MK2 are build like a tanks but we have 2024, now its not possible to buy those in mint condition, 99% are broken, hard to repair and after club usage, or pricey like hell so makes no sense for me to buy them thats why I got 2x1210MK7. Maybe they are build from ABS mixed with fiberglass, I don't mind. About your legs, try to screw them more into turntable, mine are fine. About vibrations there is no deck which will compass vibrations, yours mk2 or any other one, you need to use right base, concrete one. :) And I dont mind about 'plastic' buttons, they are working fine, like this little LED tower. I think the most important thing is tonearm, pitch and torque which are high class and do they work. :) If people dont like cheapness of the new MK7s they can buy OEMs. :)
It's defeninoutly possible to buy them mint. I bought 2 recently that a super mint in the past month. One I paid a lot for (more than a new MK7) the other I found locally for a steal. (a couple hundred less than a new mk7) but I still bought a new silver mk7 to smash, scratch, beat up, and whip the platter at 1000rpm but aswell as I have a great condition mk5.
I’ve been in industry and know a ton of DJs. I’ve seen many many broken 1200s over the years. Broken lamps, non-responsive speed buttons, broken tone arms. If you got one that’s close to 40 it probably was in someone’s home for decades.
Yeah it was!
excellent review.
i must point out that I definitely think the MK7 will survive another 40 years. It's motor is much more sophisticated than that of the MK2.
it's still Technics - and the turntable is very high quality, certainly compared to the other turntables from hanpin - it's a different world and a completely different user experience.
so maybe it's lower quality than the MK2 - but it's still an excellent turntable.
Thanks! Do you have mk7 btw? :)
Every turntable will eventually break if abused heavily. The MK7 has been around for too short time to make any conclusions about its longevity. Compared to Hanpin the quality of MK7 should be way ahead. There is a video here in YT where someone disassembled a Reloop RP-7000 and discovered the AC wire insulation was pinched by motherboard mounting screw. A major red flag. And there are tons of reviews of Hanpins with loose and rattling tonearm bearings. Now the material quality. When you unpack the MK7 you will not notice any significant smell. This means the materials used are not outgassing who knows what chemicals. You can't say that about Hanpins.
I have many friends with the mk7 and they all 100% happy. I am an audiophile, not a dj, so i purchase a 1210GR wich is outstanding amazing turntable.@@champain7357
Yes mate the MK 7 is about on par with the lack lustre .... Pioneer dreadful offerings. I've had 4 pairs of Original Wheels Of Steel since 1988. I'm currently utilising a custom pair of Japanese Market SL 1200 MK3. They are Black with a small gold technics sticker on the back of the deck plus a upgraded factory tone arm cable with gold RCAs. Decks where converted from Japanese power by 1210Berlin with a much improved modern power supply. Made in September 1996. Seriously, the MK 7 is shite. Enjoy your original bad Boyz. Blessings from a Brit in Berlin.
Brit in Berlin... Arent you Liam Carps? 😁
You can use a scapel blade for the Rubber make perfect slits and squirt some glue into them then put something heavy until it sets nobody will know as the slits can also be glued shut and if done proper its Never ever going to come off 😊
Of course you can, but buying and modifying a brand new 1000eur device? And adding bits of glue here and there might add a rotational imbalance to the platter because of the varying weight of platter sections.
@champain7357 i know but what other choice you got plus if your very econoical with the glue its negligible you would need scientific scales to weigh the glue and if you measure the distance between the cuts it should be kool if your that bothered meausure the distance between slits and use scales to weigh the glue preferably scales that weight 100 ths! 😊
Bearing in mind its suppose to have adhesive their in the first place i dont even know why its a problem though as i never had this problem with my 1200s
Great review! I never tried mk7 but for me the first time I experienced a totally busted technics was a mk5 in a club. One not working at all and one with issues. Since then I just sorted that never go above mk2 (maybe mk3). Makes sense considering days and times with capitalist build to break planing and most classic quailty companys now just being brands.
Hmm... But the damaged mk5 doesn't make it bad by default right? I heard mk5 is better than mk2 (had no chance to touch it in real life).
1000 euros... Back in the day you could have bought 3 mk2's... Crazy
and a house. Rich are responsible for planned aging tech, branding over development and housing crisis. Get em.
Whatever man just buy a pair using Affirm making monthly payments and call it a day. What the F is 200$ a month for a year for 2 beautiful silver Mk7s that you can attach Ortofon Concode Club Mk2 too and call it a day. You can even change the LEDs on them to super-cool blue colour. And if your really hurting on cash that much after financing a pair for 200/month for a year you can always sell the dustcovers, slip mats, and headshells that come with the mk7 for easily 400$ total if not more and recoup some cash. I mean just visualize how amazing it would be looking at a shiny new pair on your table and dont even get me started on the euphoria you would receive but opening up a fresh pair straight from the box. Enjoy your new purchase buddy. Let me know when you get them :)
I don't like my mk7,s give me mk2 anytime
Mk2-5 made in Japan. Japan has the worlds best quality control for many goods.
MK7 Malaysia.
Enough said.
I kniw it may be difficult for you to find a really new mk2-mk3-m3d-mk5. BUT, it would be better to own a used mk2, than a new mk7. I wish the pitch was analog. At least this would be a good enough reason to buy 1. Too bad.
"Japan = quality" times are long gone. The County of mamufacture is the last thing i would look at. You can produce quality devices in any country with proper QA at the factory. I agree, used mk2 is better than the new mk7, but if you want a pair of good decks NOW, go find 2x mk2 in good condition. And btw mk7 pitch is fine, even great i would say.
Wow man that is shocking... There will never be another sl1200 again in terms of quality :(
I hope it will be one day!
I don't DJ but I wouldn't want this crap either. I paid $725 for a Pioneer PLX1000 which is much nicer than this and made in the same factory I believe. But the PLX1000 is definitely not set up for DJ work, just music.
The Reloop are made in the same factory as Pioneer. 👍🏼
I do not understand why Technics decided to pollute their brand with a piece of plastic like the mk7. All if this just for collecting some bucks in the short run. Some are stupid out there, I know. But not all! They think that by differenciating the SL 1200 line into a crappy deck for $1k (the MK7), a semi-good one for $2k (the GR2, following the debacle of GR), and a fairly good item (the G), they made a deal. False step! They just obtained the effect of getting back all MK2-MK6 to life, thus destroying their market potential. Really stupid management.
It is just a modern world. No lasting things anymore. You can't make bizniz on decks that last 30+ years, who will buy them when everyone who needed already did so? Subscription is also hard to attach... So make crap, sell crap, make new crap etc. BTW there is a chap on youtube who do videos of old classic style music on vinyl (just records tracks playing on the deck). He uses a 5k eur G model. And guess what? It has a warped platter :D
@@champain7357 I guess you are right. However, I think there's a third way. Imagine Technics doing an MK7 they right way. That it an evolution of the MK6, with the usual solid chassis and the like. Price: $2k. Then, if you return an old, yet functioning, MK2-6, they make a $500 discount. This way, the secondary market will shrink, the price of used MK2-6 increases to the level that it would be equally convenient to buy a new MK7.
I like your idea. I would extend it to hanpin oem decks too. This would increase technics market share. But it is too complicated. Modern management likes simple schemes with immediate profit.
@@champain7357 You know, I teach in a business school and I can tell you that these future managers are mostly ignorant and superficial individuals. In addition, the compensation schemes they adopt in nowadays companies privilege short-term results. All of these factors perfectly align to your statement about modern management. We are living in a paper word.
I am a software engineer. I can see this management stuff inside every day. Still wonder why it is like that everywhere and seems to bring income while obviously being counter-productive.
mk 2 also other sl models are build other way, much better then the mk7.
because the materials these days are very expensive.
thats wy the mk7 have a lot of plastics and cheaper materials.
nothing compare to a mk 2 m3d mk5 m5g mk4 etc...they bild like a tank.
mk7 and later models les better, sorry
The mk7 has a wonderful motor without cogging problems that is a lot better in terms of wow and flutter than 1210 mk2. That justifies all other things such as power switch where they reduced other costs for less important parts.
No way. Theres no way the motor is improved.
Looks like they improved it
Made in Japan vs Made in China
Technics MK7 has better motor than MK2 ..
Yes, but mk2 motor is good enough to start with. I've read GR2 has some new "reinvented" motor, would be interesting to try this deck.
@@champain7357y3ah i heard about that also. I think it is out of most DJs budgets but I think overall the GR2 is a god value proposition. It's the latest tech, that most DJs will wait patiently to trickle down into their line of decks
I don't know where you see the plastic on the strobe and on keys 33 and 45, it's not plastic but "ALUMINIUM" very different from plastic and it's the same aluminum as the mk2 strobe!! the change is that on mk2 they were knurled while on mk7 or GR they are smooth. the fact that it seems plasic when you press them is not the button itself but the button inside... DO NOT write reviews saying that it's rubbish.... I can assure you that I have two silver mk7s from 2022 and the plate It has no undulations and the glass of the strobe is fixed and doesn't move like yours! I think they gave you a rip off.
Strobe tower with on-off switch is plastic. Get multimeter and try to measure tower surface resistance. My review was not based on emotions but physical condition of mk7. I am glad you have two mk7 with fine platters but warp issue is quite common on all new technics range up to G model. So i reserve the right to say what i see and think.
@@champain7357but what serial number does yours have? if and before 2021 mk7 had serious problems.. mine do not have the slide that moves and the plate turns straight on both one and the other or within the tolerances reported by the parent company.. as regards the turret, it strobes to the touch I'm sure it's not plastic but aluminium.. maybe different from the aluminum that was on mk2, a different alloy but if it were plastic you wouldn't feel the same sensation of cold to the touch.. I can agree with you about the pop up light which seems less resistant but even there I believe that the game that the parent company left to them is precisely because on the old mk2 series the light burned out (and even if they fixed a new generation product there would have been negative comments) the base and ABS which feel plastic to the touch is true but it is a thermosetting material whose cost and its resistance to both low and high temperatures or to impacts is much better than the rubber base present on the mk2... in fact there are many examples of mk2 or mk5 in which the base over time it was deformed due to temperature changes... then unfortunately it's true that they suffer from Larsen... but I think it depends, as you also say, it depends on the feet... problem that can be solved anyway... Sven Vath screwed us in public.
I think we talk about different things. :) You are talking about strobe dots on the platter, am i right? And it is of course metal, not plastic. No doubts here. While I am talking about cylinder tower in the left corner above start button with on off switch and leds inside. This part is plastic on mk7 but metal on mk2.
@@champain7357 you're right, mine too, the strobe glass moves... I don't understand why they didn't fix it... before mk7 I had the GR and the strobe glass was fixed like on mk2
Now you see. So why you swapped GR to mk7? Was gr bad in some way?
No quality