I have had my two SL1200 for 28 years now and I will never sell them. They brought me so much joy over the years, one of the best things I ever bought.
Agreed... Got mine in '96. They've been played on for countless hours, dragged to multiple continents, have rocked more parties and events than I could ever remember (for various reasons), and they still work as perfectly as they day I bought them from Midwest Stereo on Clark St. in Chicago. Definitely one of the best purchases of my entire lifetime!
Heard so many DJs rave over how well they hold up when cared for and used right just like Rane mixers from the old days heard of one dropped from a 2nd story window and was in usable shape afterwards
i know him personally, his passion for these decks is off the scale & has a professional attitude... his honesty for the dj community is true... i will always have his back, he is honest & he care's about the work he does, & will tell you how it is... he played at one of my gig's i did, great guy...
The decks that Jay is using for this video are mine.. Very greatful for his knowledge and honesty and doing an outstanding job bring them back to life.. Do your resuch when buying Technics..
Hope the queue wasn't too long, or a long wait for you. Busy boy is our Jay, 8 month wait the last time I wanted to book my SL's in. Worth the wait I guess. 👍🏻
Honestly, these days I'd be okay with a Frankentechnics, as long as it works well, the seller is honest about it and the price is okay. It's always good to get a few hints on what to look for, of course, so thanks for this video, it will certainly help quite a few people.
Thanks for all your comments on this one, everybody! One thing I’d like to address as I see a couple of comments related to it… The reality is, that as magic as these classic decks are, there ARE some very good alternative choices out there, mostly based on the Hanpin Super OEM platform. We’re talking about things like the Reloop 7000/8000s. Check out my review of the 7000mk2s for a full explainer. One of things I like about Jay’s channel is that, as devoted as he is to all things Technics, he still has respect for such alternatives too, just as I do. So if you’re struggling to find a really trustworthy set of 1200s at a price you can afford, don’t feel bad about going for some Super OEMs instead. They’ll serve you very well.
totally agree the oem tables are of tank quality . i still have a pair of st8150 had them 20 years now. albeit the paint has flaked off in areas but they have never failed . not once.
I have a Technics MK2, Technics MK5, and a Synq X-TRM 1 (Super OEM). I can totally agree, the Synq is of excellent quality. I love all of my turntables, no question, but the Synq does not feel cheap or anything. A downside I see compared to the MK5 is that is has only 3 grams of anti-skating, but that's what the MK2 has, too, and it's not a show stopper. Still, I will never sell my pair of Technics, hands down.
What I like about the MKII is how ridiculously over-engineered and tank-like they are. The Super OEMS (and the MK7 for that matter) do work just as well (and often have all sorts of extra features you may or may not care about) but don’t have that quality feel.
I own a pair of SL-1210m5G, and had no idea about the different between them and the Mk2 (which I’ve owned multiple pair and serviced them). But this opened my eyes and has me inspecting all my decks 😂😂
Years ago I had a second hand pair of SL-1200MK2's and sold them for a brand new SL-1210M5G at JunoRecords and when I used them for the first time I immediately realized something was wrong with them because I couldn't beatmacth properly and I had to be constantly correcting the mix. I ended up selling them and bought a second hand pair of SL-1210MK2 and all problems were over. Check out a comparison video I managed to make between the M5G versus MK2 (in Spanish) ua-cam.com/video/kuEThfqxqsU/v-deo.html
@@Zerovisualtekh I had both. Replaced a old MK2 with the 5G because MK2 became way too expensive. I couldn’t beat match anymore either. I really thought it was me at first. Years later I sold the MK2 and kept the 5G for sampling.
I waschen your Video, but my spanish is too pool. So the Problem is the Digital pitch causes higher fluctations in BPM than the traditional/ old standard pitch?
I'd stress that a "frankendeck" isn't a bad thing on its own as long as it's represented truthfully. Most of these parts are 100% interchangeable, and it's probably better that the deck reached you with working parts from the wrong make of table than broken. It's only when people claim that the deck is near mint that it's a problem.
Had my 1210 mk2s’ for 20 years and like other people commenting, I’d never sell them. Great video and this bloke knows what he is going on about. Thank you 🙏
Thanks @Mojaxx for interviewing Jay. I have been follow his YT channel for a hot minute. My 35 year old MKIIs could use a little TLC, but have no idea how to service or where to take them in Western US. Have you ever interviewed Stokyo World in California? They sell refurbished Technics that go through an inspection process from what I read. Stokyo is even selling their own version of the Record Mate now. Talk about retro tech! Cheers and catch you on twitch! 🤙🏼
Haven't gotten on my Technic 1200's MKIII's in over a year. I have about 2000 vinyl records. Looking to get rid of 1400 records. I was even contemplating getting rid of my Technics. I'm also into production and my studio has grown substantially. I primarily play everything off my Pioneer CDJ 3000's and SP-16. However, this has really changed my mind. Believe me, they're still practically in new condition. Not a single scratch on them. After watching this video, I couldn't even find replacements. After what MoJaxxx said about the MK7's... it ain't happening.
How the hell can I trust any repair or Technics specialists (apart from 'Jay') again. To be in fear of any parts of my original SL1200 Mk 2 silver turntables being nicked and swapped? Could also cause them to depreciate badly in value if people are not clued up about 'whats under the hood' or whether our current turntables are trully all genuine appliances? Not good news to hear for us "Tech-Heads"
@@justinbennitt835 I have 1200GLD so you already know I don’t have anyone messing with me Technics. I will have to figure it out on my own if I need a repair.
This is very educational about Your Tech's...for the first time in 20 years of ownership of mine,never knew the plastic cover came of for the brake adjustment!...I jus got MK2's...( no space between the K & 2)
Thanks for the tips.. I’m a Sub and now a Sub of Jay’s, I’m guessing he’s the same guy that fixed a fellow DJ’s turntables.. He’s not far from me and sounds like a genuine guy, so I’ll be contacting him about my own pair very soon 🙏🏻👍🏻 Thanks again
I own a pair of M3D's from new in 2003 what I like best about them over a mk2 is the clickless pitch, power switch has anti accidental knock off cover and cosmetically the slipmatt has that new age mirrored logo freshens them up...
While I wouldn’t want a pair with mismatched parts, I don’t think a well powder coated or painted plinth would put me off. I have a a pair of Mk2’s with sequential serial numbers but if they started looking a bit ropey then I’d want them refurbed to look their best again.
I completely agree! I have my DJcity ones done by DJs Dream Customs in Germany and they rock. This is really about warning people who buy used decks to be on the lookout for shady shenanigans.
@@Mojaxx yours look the nuts ! And yes you are right, especially to first time buyers who have never owned a pair, they need to be extra vigilant. Jays check list should be of great help.
those board interconnects are not just twisted on, they are wire-wrapped with a special tool. wire wrapping makes a very high quality connection as good or better than soldering, and was used for prototyping and limited production for computers and electronics up until through-hole gave way to surface-mount construction.
I have had my MK2s for 35 years now, and They've never been opened. My M3D however was pas acquired around 7 years ago used. Although in great shape since acquisition due to minimal use, but now after seeing this, temptation to open it up is driving me nuts. Thanks for the great tips!
I kept buying used MK3Ds online and they kept showing up damaged or not working right. Maybe the shipping or even just a lie about the condition of the tables. I eventually sold them all off for parts. After eating my losses and recuperating my money, I bought MK7s I've heard many people say they aren't great but I have nothing bad at all to say about them. If you can swing the money in time, give them a go. I love them.
To be totally honest I'm not a fan of this either! BUT this is what my customer requested, plus the original paint was flaking and needed stripping. If platters are in a used dull condition then going over with aluminium mag polish and some good old elbow grease will get them looking lovely again :)
Got lucky 2 years ago and found a NOS MK5 here in Australia for $1700, along with a mint M3D. Not the perfect pair, but was a pleasure opening the box.
Great video Mojaxx, I'm a big fan of Jay he's as honest as they come. Always finds the time to answer any questions, also shows so much pride in his work. I wouldnt go anywhere else to get my 1210,s serviced
I'm on the south coast I've a bloke called Johnny at SHOWTEC SHOREHAM ,He's the dogs ,if anyone needs their decks servicing he's the man ,ask for Johnny 🇬🇧🍀👍🏼
What is with the hate on the M5Gs??? I own a pair in the last 5 years and also play casually on mk2-s (before I also owned a very mint pair of mk2's bought them on eBay around 400£ in 2011 maybe) but I love the M5G's also the design is what made me go for them, but don't really find any difference in beat matching....I admit they might need to get a maintenance check up or service and now I know who will I call or book but otherwise sometimes for mins I have 2 tracks playing without touching and so does the mk2s too.Depends how long are your mixes but you always have to work your decks.
Great video. I sold my 1200s a while back and decided to finally get back into it but I went with used pioneer PLX 1000. They’re in great shape and I bought used so cheaper than 1200s. I didn’t want to run into a probowk where getting parts was a problem. Plx1000 can easily be replaced.
Something little bit different... last year was thinking about buying online second hand 1200 and found on ebay one non working, no cartridge or tone arm, no cables, with damaged base and with "visible trace of burning" on it. It looked like someone had fire at his 2nd floor flat and was trying to save it by throwing it through the window. You could buy it for £149,99
Don’t worry, I’ve said Tech nicks my entire life as well, and I just recently started working for a DJ gear shop and it is so hard to train myself to pronounce it differently! At least it’s not another Berenstein/Berenstain bears situation though, my brain wouldn’t be able to handle that
Been through some sh*t trying to get a pair of these imported from Japan. After a month of waiting I ended up receiving a USB cable in the post. Guys ebay acct is suspended now. Yeah cheers mate. Ended up having to buy a pair locally from some moron that was using a slipmat on top of the rubber slipmat. These decks are now mostly in possession of utter thugs and clueless knob heads that think they're sitting on a gold mine when it's usually a massively damaged, scratched up piece of sh*t example of a deck that they expect mint condition prices for. There's two locals I've dealt with are selling 100v imports from Japan - it took a lot of pressuring them to admit that they weren't even in our local voltage and neither seemed to see how that would devalue them even slightly... "Just use the step up transformer".. How about f**k you? It's been an absolute headache just to get a pair of these and I am frankly burnt out from it all. I do have a pair of mk3d's now that I've converted to 240v so hopefully thats the end of having to deal with dipsh*ts.
mk7's are that bad hey? i got my mk2's as a teen way back when, trough thick and thin, been dead broke not knowing how i was going to keep the lights on and never once did i think, i should sell these, but been thinking because of their age i should be looking for a new pair to have on hand, too bad jay is doesn't take jobs internationally right now, I'd feel a lot better and i don't trust anyone in my area
Thank you!! You best book up on my website quick then as I'm currently booked up until June, last year I was fully booked up for the whole year by February the same year!
@@Mojaxx love your content to bro, I’m still stuck in the old ages, got my 1200LTD’s with my DJM909, PHASE and the SL4 box which you mentioned that has lost support with SERATO.😢
@@JustTechnics will do bro, just in the process of moving out. But they are my decks from day one. Everything is perfect I think the pitch needs resetting and a good internal clean 👍.. think I might keep the click thou in the 0 position. I did mention to you I might remove them. Keep up the good work thou bro.
Really interesting vid and thanks for the heads up! One thing I will say, with the rising costs for Technics in the used market, why would you not just pay the extra and get a pair of new MK7s so that you completely eliminate the risk of these Frankendecks?
@@wassembly have you seen the break down videos Of the MK7? They’re objectively worse than it’s predecessors. The materials are cheaper, More plastic, pitch control is digital and not as accurate as say the MK5’s analog pitch control. I can go on, but there are a lot of reviews out there. For a $1k price tag they should be superior. But there is a lot left to be desired. For $300-$400 more you can get a pair of ‘mint’ mk5’s
I bought three SL1210mk2's out of a Hi-Fi shop for Pennies back In the 80's. They were ordered by a customer, and he never came back. They had no idea what they were or used for. So I said I would take them off their hands (No Returns then) and they said yes. I still have them and the original box's as well.
So the HIFI shop that supplied them new in the first place had no idea what they were and sold them to you for a fraction of the value? Cool story bro.
Funny this should pop up for me today- I've been corresponding with a fellow who is going to clean up the gullyworks of a 100 year old Victrola suitcase VV50 that my father gave me which he's had for about 50 years. I sent him some photos and he's going to do the work, but noted that some of the components are from a Sonora phonograph and that the governor weight and reproducer are from different phonographs as well lol. It appears this is a tale as old as time. I have a pair of old MKIIs that have been through a LOT. Getting ready to swap them out for a pair of Reloops just for the sake of ultrapitch. These newfangled scratch records are all 130 BPM. 😂 Maybe I'll have to get my OG's off to the homie Just Technics when I do that.
Jay is the best in the game. Did both my battered 1210mk2 and my 1200 and they are like new and look shit hot. Anyone looking to give thiers abit of love go straight to him ...its s no brainer.
Jay is the best thing that ever happened to our babies, good to see you again on UA-cam, I don't do the other platforms, but when my SL1200 G ever needs attention I'll book in with you and drive down to Colchester, kind regards to the both of you 👍👍.
I regret selling mine years ago, had the perfect pair. Now I won't go through the hassle of trying to get decent one's, but bought Vestax 2000s which don't look as good, but are fun to play with.
@@jonnyfevertv3170 They are not as durable as Technics,but they don't lack in any other way.If anything they add a lot of important features for DJing nowadays.
Even though I bought my MK5 1200s new, in sealed boxes 20 years ago, I just had to go and check 😂 All present and correct and work like new (apart from the target light that doesn't pop up slowly anymore and instead launches itself up with a thunk)
I got 3x 1210 MK2 - 2 of them I bought NM couple years ago, still had the original manual and box that says Technics made in Osaka, Japan !!! On the back of your Technics there is a serial number. Based on the number you can figure out when they produced it. 1 of the 3 is from 2004 and the last 2 from 2010...when you open the platter you can also see the difference between earlier models and later models, based on the motor and torque. I wouldn't say after market ones are necessarily fake...fake is to replicate the Technics 1200's...that has been done many times...I believe in 2010 Technics lost their license, and so other manufactures were allowed to replicate the 1200. Btw that being said. This video is extremely important and definitely more of these should be made.
thx for a very nice video. i´m pretty sure that mine is a geniune SL-1210 MK2. But i really want 1 or 2 SL1200 MK2 also. And i´m definitely going to subcribe to Jay´s channel. thanks again for a good video.
Awesome video and great info! Let me play devils advocate. Not everyone has oem parts readily available at the time of their project and sometimes in order to get that table moving, they are forced to use what they have at their disposal. Yes, all sellers should be upfront at the time of purchase. It’s only fair.
I know they're only work horses. Quality wise they ain't saying much. Put one next to a linn sondek say then you'll know what I mean. Even the rega plannar 3 sound better.
Most turntables will only sound as good as the pre amp it runs through, I found the pre amps on the audio technica just OK,. I do have my Technics connected to an Allen heath DB2 and it sound so good, For the audio technica AT LP 1240, I had my eyes on schiit mani phono pre amp
I have 2 M5g's with about an hours use on them both sat in original boxes with every single piece of original equipment, shells, shure cartridges, paperwork, everything! Seems bad to have them boxed up doing nothing but I don't know if I could let them go..
Great video. I own 2 European speck mk2s and 2 US speck mk2s. I've never once had issues with my decks but I can imagine how messed up the industry is. But you must know and trust the person repairing your decks.
Great video! I was lucky to get my 1210GR. I was looking for a mint one but there is no such a thing. The GR is from another planet and i am so happy. God bless you all there! God bless you all in the uk ❤️
Over the years, I’ve had about 25 pairs of Technics. When I was a kid, I used to scour The Loot for them, and they were cheap! It became a buying and selling thing. We are talking the early to late 90’S. I even owned a few new sets at Uni which we used to get from ‘Get in the mix’ for £299 each! My last set of Technics were 12 years ago, MINT, as new in boxes SL1200. Never used, paid some fit bird £500 for the pair with the matching 5 channel Technics mixer!! Had Stanton 150’s since, amazing but poor tonearm. Then T120c’s, lovely but pitch fault on one that was not repairable. I’ve now bought a new set of Audio Technica LP140XP’s. Are they as good as mk2’s, no. BUT, they’re new, have brilliant motors, sound great, mix great and are stable. Plus are new! No more used Technics for me. They are all properly mashed up. My friend still has a mint pair, but he can’t mix!!!
I highly recommend Tonik’s Labs on the east coast for US technics owners. They refurbished two of my decks impeccably. They are located in Melbourne FL.
Well 'well were does one start. I bought two SL 1200s 15 plus years ago and are working in good order and 5 or 6 years ago bought another one which have not used yet and reason is I'm trying build 3 Deck system' and other Deck was scratched by a cat or dog side the lid it self, and the rest is ok. I bought it for £150.00 at and some point I need take a look inside to make sure it a genuine SL1200 I will be very disappointed but, having say it could be the last of true SL1200 I hope so, even though I bought £150.00 at the time, now you've got thinking and I'll have wait until I setup and take a look to see and have this feeling they are the real deal' the phones look the old not this USB BS, and I'll check Jay on his video presentation Mo thank for bringing this to our attention, it reminds of something do you remember the kit car in the early 90s a throwback 2 different cars put together, it not to say I drive and just Example as to what was back than and now the SL1200/10 is Under threat and became Obsolete ,you see it coming because, DJ don't want carry vinyl like they use to ,and digital age has take over, and manufactures ,are make vests sums of because, some DJs are lazy, and want press buttons, and not use turntable's any more, and manufactures ,are ''laughing'' at the upcoming DJ who soled Decks or to up with jones and keep with latest trends and don't want to put the work in and, downloading the latest sounds, it very well having that 'but DJing is still an art ,as far as I'm concerned I'm not being funny no one really looks at DJs the same way they use to, one there on their laptop, and no one takes any notice, and if we didn't allow to happen Decks will be around for long time' it break my heart to hear this, this has to be said' I don't say this often but I'm going to say it any way. If CDs was a thing that money could buy CDs would live, and records would die! and reason I say this because records getting so expensive and CDs cheap, and cheerful, and you know true so, I still love my vinyl. I know there is history and a story tell, and with CDs you can't tell a story, one you can't see the label, speed, cover listing of track,and think these new SL1200/1210 only last 5 years I've decks second hand and sold them to buy new one ,and 15 years plus and still going strong, on that note long the SL1200/10 we need them backing the club and the CDs to stay in the computer and only for demos and for playing otherwise will this problem for to come and let us all go back to basics so we save the SL1200/10 from becoming thing of past...!! Stay blessed 🙏🏿🙏🏿😇😇Mo and Jay keep the good work🤛🏿👊🏿🤜🏿
Jay is very well spoken and knowledgeable. When Jay serviced my sl1210mk2 they sound better and looked brand new. I would only let Jay touch my Decks. Recommended all day long😊. John swinbourne. I like his videos of what to watch out for when buying Technics.
I will never critisize you for pronouncing it "wrong". You are british and you do you mate, from where I see it, we all have been saying it wrong, please teach us Panasonic!
hi, I have technics sl q3 and I think it has a problem of power, some times when the voltage is low it starts turning reverse. I would appreciate for any suggestions or advise.
Jay really knows his stuff. He gets a lot of hate, from utter clowns, but the truth is, he lives, breathes, and sleeps Technics, he knows more than anyone.
I have a mk5 since 2007, I changed the arm (because unable to remove the head of the arm with bad contact with cartridge)bought from japan and I changed the rca câble (no ground on the new câble). It work perfectly. What is the frequency to put the special oil in the torq ?
Hi Guys, One quite Major point of Concern. "J " was saying about the "Skate " Cap not having the Correct Numbers on. I think he said it should go up to 6 ? But it actually only went up to 3. The Scale / Calibration of how much Skate is applied in alignment with Counterbalance / Stylus Weight Setting would be out of Wack and would therefore be Detrimental to Stylus Ware and / or your Precious Vinyl Collection. Regards Andy
The Mk5s do indeed have a scale on that cap which goes up to 6, so whilst you absolutely have a point, you should probably take it up with Technics. ;)
I'm so happy to see this video, I. Bought 2 mk5, and never have a technics mk before, I pay £280 for the pair, and I was worried about be fake, and after see this video I can say 100% I got 2 mk5 original for a bargain, everything you say about mk5 my have ,and is all original I'm soooooo happpppyyyyy
there were fake Garrard 401s going around in the 70s . Garrard found out the hard hay after repairing non originals until some one at the factory spotted they were not Garrards
Really interesting watch. Having been around music and DJ's since the mid 80's (lots of my mates had Technics when I was growing up) I myself only started collecting vinyl in the last 5 years. Naturally I wanted a pair of 1200's but the price was steep. I actually got close to buying a reconditioned pair on eBay but in the end I went for a brand new pair of Pioneer PLX 500's. I'm glad I did, as I'm sure those 1200's from eBay would've been a mish mash of other parts. The Pioneer decks look and feel great and cost a fraction of the price. All things considered I'm happy with the outcome.
I have had my two SL1200 for 28 years now and I will never sell them. They brought me so much joy over the years, one of the best things I ever bought.
Sell one and buy a pair of audio technica AT LP 1240s. They batter the tec 12s all day long
Agreed... Got mine in '96. They've been played on for countless hours, dragged to multiple continents, have rocked more parties and events than I could ever remember (for various reasons), and they still work as perfectly as they day I bought them from Midwest Stereo on Clark St. in Chicago. Definitely one of the best purchases of my entire lifetime!
Heard so many DJs rave over how well they hold up when cared for and used right just like Rane mixers from the old days heard of one dropped from a 2nd story window and was in usable shape afterwards
The case it was in was a loss tho
Same here! I have 4 in total and cherish them dearly
i know him personally, his passion for these decks is off the scale & has a professional attitude... his honesty for the dj community is true... i will always have his back, he is honest & he care's about the work he does, & will tell you how it is... he played at one of my gig's i did, great guy...
The decks that Jay is using for this video are mine.. Very greatful for his knowledge and honesty and doing an outstanding job bring them back to life.. Do your resuch when buying Technics..
nice marble camo job. very nice
i know him, such a great honest guy.
It’s amazing how much you learn when you get work done by him isn’t it!
Propa nice guy
Hope the queue wasn't too long, or a long wait for you. Busy boy is our Jay, 8 month wait the last time I wanted to book my SL's in. Worth the wait I guess. 👍🏻
Honestly, these days I'd be okay with a Frankentechnics, as long as it works well, the seller is honest about it and the price is okay. It's always good to get a few hints on what to look for, of course, so thanks for this video, it will certainly help quite a few people.
This video should be sent to the Technics company, we need them to reintroduced their discontinued turntables
What we need are oem replacement parts.
Thanks for all your comments on this one, everybody! One thing I’d like to address as I see a couple of comments related to it…
The reality is, that as magic as these classic decks are, there ARE some very good alternative choices out there, mostly based on the Hanpin Super OEM platform. We’re talking about things like the Reloop 7000/8000s. Check out my review of the 7000mk2s for a full explainer.
One of things I like about Jay’s channel is that, as devoted as he is to all things Technics, he still has respect for such alternatives too, just as I do.
So if you’re struggling to find a really trustworthy set of 1200s at a price you can afford, don’t feel bad about going for some Super OEMs instead. They’ll serve you very well.
totally agree the oem tables are of tank quality . i still have a pair of st8150 had them 20 years now. albeit the paint has flaked off in areas but they have never failed . not once.
I have a Technics MK2, Technics MK5, and a Synq X-TRM 1 (Super OEM). I can totally agree, the Synq is of excellent quality. I love all of my turntables, no question, but the Synq does not feel cheap or anything. A downside I see compared to the MK5 is that is has only 3 grams of anti-skating, but that's what the MK2 has, too, and it's not a show stopper. Still, I will never sell my pair of Technics, hands down.
can’t find your review where you address the hanpin super oem platform
@@mario312 ua-cam.com/video/OJBfxoLWl8Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=DJcityTV
What I like about the MKII is how ridiculously over-engineered and tank-like they are.
The Super OEMS (and the MK7 for that matter) do work just as well (and often have all sorts of extra features you may or may not care about) but don’t have that quality feel.
It’s like the auto industry .
Auto mechanics and car part dealers have been experiencing this for ages. It’s good to know someone you can trust.
Been folowing this dude for ages he is spot on with these things.
I saved a pair of SL-1200MKIIs from a closed club on the beach in Hawaii and love them! Had the 1st one refurnd' and saving up to get the 2nd refurbd.
I own a pair of SL-1210m5G, and had no idea about the different between them and the Mk2 (which I’ve owned multiple pair and serviced them). But this opened my eyes and has me inspecting all my decks 😂😂
Years ago I had a second hand pair of SL-1200MK2's and sold them for a brand new SL-1210M5G at JunoRecords and when I used them for the first time I immediately realized something was wrong with them because I couldn't beatmacth properly and I had to be constantly correcting the mix. I ended up selling them and bought a second hand pair of SL-1210MK2 and all problems were over. Check out a comparison video I managed to make between the M5G versus MK2 (in Spanish) ua-cam.com/video/kuEThfqxqsU/v-deo.html
Most hated version.
@@Zerovisualtekh I had both. Replaced a old MK2 with the 5G because MK2 became way too expensive. I couldn’t beat match anymore either. I really thought it was me at first. Years later I sold the MK2 and kept the 5G for sampling.
I waschen your Video, but my spanish is too pool. So the Problem is the Digital pitch causes higher fluctations in BPM than the traditional/ old standard pitch?
@@braakattac not fluctuation. It jumps up or down when using the pitch control instead of going smoothly up or down when using the regular one.
I'd stress that a "frankendeck" isn't a bad thing on its own as long as it's represented truthfully. Most of these parts are 100% interchangeable, and it's probably better that the deck reached you with working parts from the wrong make of table than broken.
It's only when people claim that the deck is near mint that it's a problem.
Great educational video on the original Wheels of Steel, brings back memories Mojaxx!!!
Had my 1210 mk2s’ for 20 years and like other people commenting, I’d never sell them. Great video and this bloke knows what he is going on about. Thank you 🙏
You should do a ranking of all the 1200 models
Thanks @Mojaxx for interviewing Jay. I have been follow his YT channel for a hot minute. My 35 year old MKIIs could use a little TLC, but have no idea how to service or where to take them in Western US.
Have you ever interviewed Stokyo World in California? They sell refurbished Technics that go through an inspection process from what I read.
Stokyo is even selling their own version of the Record Mate now. Talk about retro tech!
Cheers and catch you on twitch! 🤙🏼
Haven't gotten on my Technic 1200's MKIII's in over a year. I have about 2000 vinyl records. Looking to get rid of 1400 records. I was even contemplating getting rid of my Technics. I'm also into production and my studio has grown substantially. I primarily play everything off my Pioneer CDJ 3000's and SP-16. However, this has really changed my mind. Believe me, they're still practically in new condition. Not a single scratch on them. After watching this video, I couldn't even find replacements. After what MoJaxxx said about the MK7's... it ain't happening.
Got any reggae or soul vinyl to sell?
How the hell can I trust any repair or Technics specialists (apart from 'Jay') again. To be in fear of any parts of my original SL1200 Mk 2 silver turntables being nicked and swapped? Could also cause them to depreciate badly in value if people are not clued up about 'whats under the hood' or whether our current turntables are trully all genuine appliances? Not good news to hear for us "Tech-Heads"
I was thinking the same thing.
@@justinbennitt835 I have 1200GLD so you already know I don’t have anyone messing with me Technics. I will have to figure it out on my own if I need a repair.
@@justinbennitt835 💯
@@rashodlewis2918 Good on you dude, been trying to pluck up the courage to open mine up and have a peep inside for years.
This is very educational about Your Tech's...for the first time in 20 years of ownership of mine,never knew the plastic cover came of for the brake adjustment!...I jus got MK2's...( no space between the K & 2)
Thanks for the tips..
I’m a Sub and now a Sub of Jay’s, I’m guessing he’s the same guy that fixed a fellow DJ’s turntables..
He’s not far from me and sounds like a genuine guy, so I’ll be contacting him about my own pair very soon 🙏🏻👍🏻 Thanks again
I own a pair of M3D's from new in 2003 what I like best about them over a mk2 is the clickless pitch, power switch has anti accidental knock off cover and cosmetically the slipmatt has that new age mirrored logo freshens them up...
Great video, I recently "retired" my pair of 1200 LTD UK in sunny Spain, I spin them every now and then but their main purpose now is to decorate 😁
Good job I invested in a Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
While I wouldn’t want a pair with mismatched parts, I don’t think a well powder coated or painted plinth would put me off. I have a a pair of Mk2’s with sequential serial numbers but if they started looking a bit ropey then I’d want them refurbed to look their best again.
I completely agree! I have my DJcity ones done by DJs Dream Customs in Germany and they rock. This is really about warning people who buy used decks to be on the lookout for shady shenanigans.
@@Mojaxx yours look the nuts ! And yes you are right, especially to first time buyers who have never owned a pair, they need to be extra vigilant. Jays check list should be of great help.
those board interconnects are not just twisted on, they are wire-wrapped with a special tool. wire wrapping makes a very high quality connection as good or better than soldering, and was used for prototyping and limited production for computers and electronics up until through-hole gave way to surface-mount construction.
I have had my MK2s for 35 years now, and They've never been opened. My M3D however was pas acquired around 7 years ago used. Although in great shape since acquisition due to minimal use, but now after seeing this, temptation to open it up is driving me nuts. Thanks for the great tips!
I kept buying used MK3Ds online and they kept showing up damaged or not working right. Maybe the shipping or even just a lie about the condition of the tables. I eventually sold them all off for parts. After eating my losses and recuperating my money, I bought MK7s I've heard many people say they aren't great but I have nothing bad at all to say about them. If you can swing the money in time, give them a go. I love them.
Had my SL1210s for the last 20 years nothing ever went wrong used em for my weekly gigs. These things need the respect they deserve.
i really hate to see the whole platter sprayed in a color. the circles should be shinny
To be totally honest I'm not a fan of this either! BUT this is what my customer requested, plus the original paint was flaking and needed stripping.
If platters are in a used dull condition then going over with aluminium mag polish and some good old elbow grease will get them looking lovely again :)
@@JustTechnics thank you for the video
@@DjGCue71 your welcome!
Got lucky 2 years ago and found a NOS MK5 here in Australia for $1700, along with a mint M3D. Not the perfect pair, but was a pleasure opening the box.
Great video Mojaxx, I'm a big fan of Jay he's as honest as they come. Always finds the time to answer any questions, also shows so much pride in his work. I wouldnt go anywhere else to get my 1210,s serviced
I'm on the south coast I've a bloke called Johnny at SHOWTEC SHOREHAM ,He's the dogs ,if anyone needs their decks servicing he's the man ,ask for Johnny 🇬🇧🍀👍🏼
What is with the hate on the M5Gs???
I own a pair in the last 5 years and also play casually on mk2-s (before I also owned a very mint pair of mk2's bought them on eBay around 400£ in 2011 maybe)
but I love the M5G's also the design is what made me go for them, but don't really find any difference in beat matching....I admit they might need to get a maintenance check up or service and now I know who will I call or book but otherwise sometimes for mins I have 2 tracks playing without touching and so does the mk2s too.Depends how long are your mixes but you always have to work your decks.
Mannn so happy. Just did the check list for Mk5 and every bit is the real deal. Thanks for the upload.
Still got my technics 1210 MK2 in pristine condition. Love them
This is the reason I have such a hard time buying used DJ equipment or anything used in general. Getting scammed sucks. Great video, Thank you.
I mean they may be misrepresented, and refurbished, but they're not "fake". Any more than a honda accord with an engine swap is "fake".
Great video. I sold my 1200s a while back and decided to finally get back into it but I went with used pioneer PLX 1000. They’re in great shape and I bought used so cheaper than 1200s. I didn’t want to run into a probowk where getting parts was a problem. Plx1000 can easily be replaced.
Something little bit different... last year was thinking about buying online second hand 1200 and found on ebay one non working, no cartridge or tone arm, no cables, with damaged base and with "visible trace of burning" on it. It looked like someone had fire at his 2nd floor flat and was trying to save it by throwing it through the window. You could buy it for £149,99
Don’t worry, I’ve said Tech nicks my entire life as well, and I just recently started working for a DJ gear shop and it is so hard to train myself to pronounce it differently! At least it’s not another Berenstein/Berenstain bears situation though, my brain wouldn’t be able to handle that
damn. i never knew
I just spent waaaay too much money on the 50th Anniv. SL-1200M7LPA. I have an older SL I fixed that I'm using now...works flawlessly!
Been through some sh*t trying to get a pair of these imported from Japan. After a month of waiting I ended up receiving a USB cable in the post. Guys ebay acct is suspended now. Yeah cheers mate. Ended up having to buy a pair locally from some moron that was using a slipmat on top of the rubber slipmat. These decks are now mostly in possession of utter thugs and clueless knob heads that think they're sitting on a gold mine when it's usually a massively damaged, scratched up piece of sh*t example of a deck that they expect mint condition prices for. There's two locals I've dealt with are selling 100v imports from Japan - it took a lot of pressuring them to admit that they weren't even in our local voltage and neither seemed to see how that would devalue them even slightly... "Just use the step up transformer".. How about f**k you? It's been an absolute headache just to get a pair of these and I am frankly burnt out from it all. I do have a pair of mk3d's now that I've converted to 240v so hopefully thats the end of having to deal with dipsh*ts.
mk7's are that bad hey? i got my mk2's as a teen way back when, trough thick and thin, been dead broke not knowing how i was going to keep the lights on and never once did i think, i should sell these, but been thinking because of their age i should be looking for a new pair to have on hand, too bad jay is doesn't take jobs internationally right now, I'd feel a lot better and i don't trust anyone in my area
Jay is a Legend, the best in the business
Thank you!!
This video very helpful…..folks are Sneaky these Days, Salute u Mojaxx
Jay from just technics ..... top boy, following him from day one.... gonna send jay my 1200LTD’s for a service 👍
#1200LTDGANG… Think I’m gonna send him mine at some point!
Thank you!! You best book up on my website quick then as I'm currently booked up until June, last year I was fully booked up for the whole year by February the same year!
@@Mojaxx love your content to bro, I’m still stuck in the old ages, got my 1200LTD’s with my DJM909, PHASE and the SL4 box which you mentioned that has lost support with SERATO.😢
@@JustTechnics will do bro, just in the process of moving out. But they are my decks from day one. Everything is perfect I think the pitch needs resetting and a good internal clean 👍.. think I might keep the click thou in the 0 position. I did mention to you I might remove them. Keep up the good work thou bro.
Really interesting vid and thanks for the heads up! One thing I will say, with the rising costs for Technics in the used market, why would you not just pay the extra and get a pair of new MK7s so that you completely eliminate the risk of these Frankendecks?
"Frankendecks" love it! 👍🏻
Because mk7’s are overpriced trash
@@adriannavarro2536 strong disagree. Yes they are more expensive, but they are an excellent update on the conventional SL model.
@@wassembly have you seen the break down videos Of the MK7? They’re objectively worse than it’s predecessors. The materials are cheaper, More plastic, pitch control is digital and not as accurate as say the MK5’s analog pitch control. I can go on, but there are a lot of reviews out there. For a $1k price tag they should be superior. But there is a lot left to be desired. For $300-$400 more you can get a pair of ‘mint’ mk5’s
@@wassembly The older decks are of a higher build quality that can’t really be debated.
awesome video , thank god i haven't had any problems with my set of mk5's , i bought mine new in box sealed years ago and i absolutely adore them .
Great vid!! Love it. Thank you.
Mate, you need to do an up to date 'Buyers Guide' video. For both online and in person.
I bought three SL1210mk2's out of a Hi-Fi shop for Pennies back In the 80's. They were ordered by a customer, and he never came back. They had no idea what they were or used for. So I said I would take them off their hands (No Returns then) and they said yes. I still have them and the original box's as well.
So the HIFI shop that supplied them new in the first place had no idea what they were and sold them to you for a fraction of the value? Cool story bro.
Funny this should pop up for me today- I've been corresponding with a fellow who is going to clean up the gullyworks of a 100 year old Victrola suitcase VV50 that my father gave me which he's had for about 50 years. I sent him some photos and he's going to do the work, but noted that some of the components are from a Sonora phonograph and that the governor weight and reproducer are from different phonographs as well lol. It appears this is a tale as old as time.
I have a pair of old MKIIs that have been through a LOT. Getting ready to swap them out for a pair of Reloops just for the sake of ultrapitch. These newfangled scratch records are all 130 BPM. 😂
Maybe I'll have to get my OG's off to the homie Just Technics when I do that.
Jay is the best in the game. Did both my battered 1210mk2 and my 1200 and they are like new and look shit hot. Anyone looking to give thiers abit of love go straight to him ...its s no brainer.
Thanks Andy!!
I concur! Jay made my very old dirty, dusty mk2s working and looking brand new. He did an awesome job!
This is excellent. Thanks, Mojaxx and Jay.
Jay is the best thing that ever happened to our babies, good to see you again on UA-cam, I don't do the other platforms, but when my SL1200 G ever needs attention I'll book in with you and drive down to Colchester, kind regards to the both of you 👍👍.
I have two 1210 mk2s in perfect condition. It gets harder & harder not to sell them every year.
Don’t sell’em, I regret selling my old mixer everyday.
I regret selling mine years ago, had the perfect pair. Now I won't go through the hassle of trying to get decent one's, but bought Vestax 2000s which don't look as good, but are fun to play with.
Ditto
Honestly reloops are just fine if you don't want to go through the hussle of identifying every part of a random Technics deck bought online.
Bout to get a set
@@jonnyfevertv3170 They are not as durable as Technics,but they don't lack in any other way.If anything they add a lot of important features for DJing nowadays.
@@gaarakabuto1 thanks 4 the heads up, got a pair of mk2, already, looking for some of those additional pitch controls for turntablism. Cheers
Enjoyed this one. Great info.
This guy seems like the real deal. Top bloke.
Nick the Deck Doctor based in south London should get an honorable mention here too.
I can also confirm Nick fits genuine Mk2 pitch faders :)
Even though I bought my MK5 1200s new, in sealed boxes 20 years ago, I just had to go and check 😂
All present and correct and work like new (apart from the target light that doesn't pop up slowly anymore and instead launches itself up with a thunk)
U got the “too old” part right! Cheers
I need to order one of these refurbished ones when I have the funds! Very good informative video.
literally just blew my mind with the actual pronunciation, bet no one in england ever has called em techneecs :D
I got 3x 1210 MK2 - 2 of them I bought NM couple years ago, still had the original manual and box that says Technics made in Osaka, Japan !!! On the back of your Technics there is a serial number. Based on the number you can figure out when they produced it. 1 of the 3 is from 2004 and the last 2 from 2010...when you open the platter you can also see the difference between earlier models and later models, based on the motor and torque. I wouldn't say after market ones are necessarily fake...fake is to replicate the Technics 1200's...that has been done many times...I believe in 2010 Technics lost their license, and so other manufactures were allowed to replicate the 1200. Btw that being said. This video is extremely important and definitely more of these should be made.
Can’t be from 2010 as they stopped production in 2009.
thx for a very nice video. i´m pretty sure that mine is a geniune SL-1210 MK2. But i really want 1 or 2 SL1200 MK2 also. And i´m definitely going to subcribe to Jay´s channel. thanks again for a good video.
Awesome video and great info! Let me play devils advocate. Not everyone has oem parts readily available at the time of their project and sometimes in order to get that table moving, they are forced to use what they have at their disposal. Yes, all sellers should be upfront at the time of purchase. It’s only fair.
Damn... cut n shut Techs!. Big ups Jay, sorted my 1210s out great guy
This was an interesting listen / watch!
I have one SL-1200M3D that I bought brand new. Interesting stuff. 🤔 Learned something new...
Thank you :)
@@JustTechnics you should do a ranking of the 1200 models!
@@santiagoaguilar8429 okay I will! :) , I've been asked for this sooooo many times!
@@JustTechnics hell yeah ! I got a m3d and mk2 so I really want to see where they are on the list
Great Video. Still have my Technics 1210s Mk2 after 27yrs, still work like a dream. Always service with genuine parts.
I know they're only work horses. Quality wise they ain't saying much. Put one next to a linn sondek say then you'll know what I mean. Even the rega plannar 3 sound better.
@@zukispur5493 I have never owned a Linn deck, but they do look superior, I am a DJ so a pitch fader was a must,
@@Music-Gear audio technica AT LP 1240. Brilliant. Piss on the tec 12s all day long. At home I run a Garrard 401 (SME arm) now there's a turntable 🌚
@@zukispur5493 Believe it are not I have audio technica AT LP 1240 in my sitting room for listening to my LPs, still looking for a descent pre amp,
Most turntables will only sound as good as the pre amp it runs through, I found the pre amps on the audio technica just OK,. I do have my Technics connected to an Allen heath DB2 and it sound so good,
For the audio technica AT LP 1240, I had my eyes on schiit mani phono pre amp
Good man Jay, nice one.
I have 2 M5g's with about an hours use on them both sat in original boxes with every single piece of original equipment, shells, shure cartridges, paperwork, everything! Seems bad to have them boxed up doing nothing but I don't know if I could let them go..
Hit me up if you ever consider getting rid of them.
This a was master class JAY IS THE GURU THANKS GENTS
Great video. I own 2 European speck mk2s and 2 US speck mk2s. I've never once had issues with my decks but I can imagine how messed up the industry is. But you must know and trust the person repairing your decks.
Just bought a pair of 1200 mark 5's, gonna check em carefully when they arrive !
Great video!
I was lucky to get my 1210GR.
I was looking for a mint one but there is no such a thing.
The GR is from another planet and i am so happy.
God bless you all there!
God bless you all in the uk ❤️
Happy spinning!
The 1210GR is a current model.... Plenty of them around!!
Over the years, I’ve had about 25 pairs of Technics. When I was a kid, I used to scour The Loot for them, and they were cheap! It became a buying and selling thing. We are talking the early to late 90’S. I even owned a few new sets at Uni which we used to get from ‘Get in the mix’ for £299 each! My last set of Technics were 12 years ago, MINT, as new in boxes SL1200. Never used, paid some fit bird £500 for the pair with the matching 5 channel Technics mixer!!
Had Stanton 150’s since, amazing but poor tonearm. Then T120c’s, lovely but pitch fault on one that was not repairable.
I’ve now bought a new set of Audio Technica LP140XP’s. Are they as good as mk2’s, no. BUT, they’re new, have brilliant motors, sound great, mix great and are stable. Plus are new!
No more used Technics for me. They are all properly mashed up.
My friend still has a mint pair, but he can’t mix!!!
Jay is an absolute legend in this game simple as that 💯%
I highly recommend Tonik’s Labs on the east coast for US technics owners. They refurbished two of my decks impeccably. They are located in Melbourne FL.
Well 'well were does one start. I bought two SL 1200s 15 plus years ago and are working in good order and 5 or 6 years ago bought another one which have not used yet and reason is I'm trying build 3 Deck system' and other Deck was scratched by a cat or dog side the lid it self, and the rest is ok. I bought it for £150.00 at and some point I need take a look inside to make sure it a genuine SL1200 I will be very disappointed but, having say it could be the last of true SL1200 I hope so, even though I bought £150.00 at the time, now you've got thinking and I'll have wait until I setup and take a look to see and have this feeling they are the real deal' the phones look the old not this USB BS, and I'll check Jay on his video presentation Mo thank for bringing this to our attention, it reminds of something do you remember the kit car in the early 90s a throwback 2 different cars put together, it not to say I drive and just Example as to what was back than and now the SL1200/10 is Under threat and became Obsolete ,you see it coming because, DJ don't want carry vinyl like they use to ,and digital age has take over, and manufactures ,are make vests sums of because, some DJs are lazy, and want press buttons, and not use turntable's any more, and manufactures ,are ''laughing'' at the upcoming DJ who soled Decks or to up with jones and keep with latest trends and don't want to put the work in and, downloading the latest sounds, it very well having that 'but DJing is still an art ,as far as I'm concerned I'm not being funny no one really looks at DJs the same way they use to, one there on their laptop, and no one takes any notice, and if we didn't allow to happen Decks will be around for long time' it break my heart to hear this, this has to be said' I don't say this often but I'm going to say it any way. If CDs was a thing that money could buy CDs would live, and records would die! and reason I say this because records getting so expensive and CDs cheap, and cheerful, and you know true so, I still love my vinyl. I know there is history and a story tell, and with CDs you can't tell a story, one you can't see the label, speed, cover listing of track,and think these new SL1200/1210 only last 5 years I've decks second hand and sold them to buy new one ,and 15 years plus and still going strong, on that note long the SL1200/10 we need them backing the club and the CDs to stay in the computer and only for demos and for playing otherwise will this problem for to come and let us all go back to basics so we save the SL1200/10 from becoming thing of past...!! Stay blessed 🙏🏿🙏🏿😇😇Mo and Jay keep the good work🤛🏿👊🏿🤜🏿
I loved my Techs, but when I got a pair of Stanton Str8 150s, I never looked back. A little more wow and flutter, but the playoffs are outstanding.
If those do not work well, what do you leave for the new mk7
Jay is very well spoken and knowledgeable. When Jay serviced my sl1210mk2 they sound better and looked brand new. I would only let Jay touch my Decks. Recommended all day long😊. John swinbourne. I like his videos of what to watch out for when buying Technics.
Thats sad...luckily i bought my M5G'S when they first came out.
I will never critisize you for pronouncing it "wrong". You are british and you do you mate, from where I see it, we all have been saying it wrong, please teach us Panasonic!
information that heal...
Great info.
I have a question.. the technics DZ1200 and the technics turntable ( any model) parts be interchanged)
For better torc to the DZ1200
hi, I have technics sl q3 and I think it has a problem of power, some times when the voltage is low it starts turning reverse. I would appreciate for any suggestions or advise.
Jay really knows his stuff.
He gets a lot of hate, from utter clowns, but the truth is, he lives, breathes, and sleeps Technics, he knows more than anyone.
Because he stops them from ripping people off
I had to open mine because I spilled milk in it. Glad I did cuz I’m more experienced as a DJ
This is where the mk7 get its chance : still a genuine and a matching parts unit.
With the release of the MK7, are pre-2010 1200s still crazy expensive?
I have a mk5 since 2007, I changed the arm (because unable to remove the head of the arm with bad contact with cartridge)bought from japan and I changed the rca câble (no ground on the new câble). It work perfectly. What is the frequency to put the special oil in the torq ?
Hi Guys, One quite Major point of Concern. "J " was saying about the "Skate " Cap not having the Correct Numbers on. I think he said it should go up to 6 ? But it actually only went up to 3. The Scale / Calibration of how much Skate is applied in alignment with Counterbalance / Stylus Weight Setting would be out of Wack and would therefore be Detrimental to Stylus Ware and / or your Precious Vinyl Collection.
Regards Andy
The Mk5s do indeed have a scale on that cap which goes up to 6, so whilst you absolutely have a point, you should probably take it up with Technics. ;)
what numbers should be on the 1200G anti skate control knob?
I'm so happy to see this video, I. Bought 2 mk5, and never have a technics mk before, I pay £280 for the pair, and I was worried about be fake, and after see this video I can say 100% I got 2 mk5 original for a bargain, everything you say about mk5 my have ,and is all original I'm soooooo happpppyyyyy
so got original mk3d and a mk2 how much you guys reckon they are worth???
So if you can't get tech 12s, what is the next best thing to buy new?
Thank you for this.
THANKS for SHARING.
Greetings from Cabo Verde Islands😀
there were fake Garrard 401s going around in the 70s . Garrard found out the hard hay after repairing non originals until some one at the factory spotted they were not Garrards
Really interesting watch. Having been around music and DJ's since the mid 80's (lots of my mates had Technics when I was growing up) I myself only started collecting vinyl in the last 5 years. Naturally I wanted a pair of 1200's but the price was steep. I actually got close to buying a reconditioned pair on eBay but in the end I went for a brand new pair of Pioneer PLX 500's. I'm glad I did, as I'm sure those 1200's from eBay would've been a mish mash of other parts. The Pioneer decks look and feel great and cost a fraction of the price. All things considered I'm happy with the outcome.