Most youtubers made in depth videos on animal companions, by keeping this at under the 10m mark it becomes a useful resource to look back at for new build animal companions, it’s also nice to see the giant centipede get some love.
You failed to include if they had more then one attack on their turn to attack as well. Elk often gets three attacks, and then others would get pretty good results.
Elk is my favourite mammoth is great for secondary tanking Too many people liked the sabre-toothed it's not worth it without using the magic fang buff if you ask me
@@charleskulvet4911 Leopard damage/attack is still less than smi and still (d20+modify)*5/round not include spell buffs or items(owner's). Imaging when you get stupid roll and you waste that turn because 2 can only have 1 or 2 rolls
Smile cat is pretty great I do see a general mentality of people noticing stuff being left out but you own the game and do a little reading it isn't hard to figure out which ones do more than one attack. Personally I just enjoy how stupid smiledon gets with buffs.
Love the PK analysis content. Keep it up. There’s not a lot of content up for this game other than basic let’s plays. Love the spreadsheet. Maybe cover other aspects of the game in this style. Again, great job. I would prefer longer tho, more details, special attacks, performance when buffed, etc.
I have Dwarf named Ozzy with a war pig. He used to work on a crazy train in the mine around some Ironman. But now he told his mom, Mam I am coming home. :D
@@ArcaneAgent it is NOW, But as of like 6 hours or so ago it was supposed to be today. Oh well. The season pass looks like a descent deal if you have seen that...
"...rolling up a Druid 17 times to do it." I laugh in WoW. I also cry. Yeah I laugh while crying in WoW. Also you mention the overrun ability for the Mastodon, but not the Elk's extra damage on charge ability, or the centipede's poison etc. THEN there is the reason that people consider the Smilodon the top tier, the fact that it has 5 attacks. Give it sneak attack dice, or the ability to trip, etc and those not only stack up, but can simply waylay on their own.
Another great video!! I very much appreciate the amount of time you put into your videos and look forward to more of them. I've been putting time into building a fun group for a first time run through. I'm looking into building a heavy companion group with the following classes - Cleric: Herald Caller / Barbarian: Mad Dog / Inquisitor: Monster Tactician / Pure Druid / Sorcerer: Sylvain Sorcerer and your Reach Rogue build. I figure after a run through with this group I can pick a companion class I enjoy the best.
People are loving the Smilodon for the attacks/round, BUT: Trip attack is pretty useful from the Leopard and the Wolf aswell as whenever an enemy is tripped: Free AOO for everyone around him MEANING your even more powerful human NPCs and PCs.
Its a question of party composition. If the pet trips a target and the target gets up again, everyone in melee-range gets an AOO. Meaning if you have mostly ranged combatants it's not that impactful obviously. Also Leopards (who trip sooo many times) should have a harder time tripping larger targets and I dont know the rules exactly but I dont know if a Medium Creature can even attempt a trip vs. a Huge or larger creature.
@liquid Plays Definitely go into detail about abilities and attack/rounds. sadly, this current video really does explain much beyond the in-game tooltip.
I've used companion pets on several of my main PC lives now and enjoy them and the broad selection available I wouldn't recommend the bear though as the animation has a habit of glitching unless you rest / relog and it looks like the bear is literally crawling / dragging it's a*** on the floor when it moves. One thing I wish the devs would do though as add an icon for pet(s) at the bottom of the screens displaying current and max health. The problem we have right now is your pets health is basically invisible unless you are regularly hitting the "C" key during combat and you don't know when to heal it etc
The animal companions are a bit bugged. They all get the same damage bonus from power attack, but the animal companions with only one attack are supposed to get 1.5x damage from power attack. However, they do get the correct 1.5x damage from strength. That's the trade off between animal companions with 1 attack and ones with multiple attacks. The ones with multiple attacks will always have that many attacks, which makes them very powerful at earlier levels. The ones with a single attack gets 1.5x to damage from their strength and they will gain additional iterative attacks when they reach +6 BAB and +11 BAB.
Soooo... you dont list the number of attacks each animal get - that is so much more important and impactfull than the stats you list.. Big difference if 1 gets 2 attacks and another gets 5 attacks. Also you dont list all their special abilities... I am sorry, but this is really a useless video to put , it doesnt tell us anything. You found out nothing. lol
But with all the different buffs (like +2-6 damage per attack) - you can do on a companion, it matters a whole lot if the animal attacks 1 time or 5 times.. Still, obviously it matters that the cat can pounce and make full attack after charge, and the dog and wolf can trip. The leopard can also trip... It makes a HUGE difference and you 6 minutes ignoring everything that matters. This video does not cover any of the important factors, sorry.
I made a 5 minute video. Most youtubers are gonna aim for 10 minutes for them ads. I could have gone greatly in depth on each and every companion. But that would have been a 40 minute video and most people stop watching any video at 3 minutes. I do plan on making In Depth Animal Companion videos detailing everything about them. But those are 15 minute videos each
Nope... you spend 5 minutes talking but you dont tell anyone anything usefull. You even made a spreadsheet that is wrong. Just plug into the spreadsheet the important factors. Right now your entire analasis says something like "they are all equal in damage give or take +-15 hp +-2 damage... That is just COMPLETLY wrong. there is a HUGE difference between doing 5 attacks per round and having charge and trip, and doing 2 attacks per round. ... It would take you about 0 sec of videotime to make a a spreadsheet that ACTUALLY says something about what animal companion is bedst... It would maybe take you 30 sec to explain what special abilities the different animals have, also say why 5 attacks can be much more powerfull than 1 attack. You should change the tittle of your video because its wrong - you dont explain anything. You leave out all the important stuff and talk about stuff that does not matter.
Some of these would be even kewler if you could ride them. Imagine riding the elk and looking like the Master (or Mistress) of the Wild Hunt. Riding mastodon would obviously look badass. But for me, ridding doggo or wolf or kittah would be most pro.
I rewound the video 8 times and for the life of me I don't know how you displayed the stat page for the companion. I'm playing a ranger right now and all I've figured out is I can click on him during combat (but no stat page). Also that spreadsheet is missing a VERY crucial piece of info...number of attacks per round.
brah smilodon is the dps pet by far 5 attacks per round + pounce.everything else is just bad unless you are a druid then go bear because of the named schimitar you are welcome
It's not weak if you buff it with -6 damage per attack with attribute and aoe buffs ... Anyway. pounce is insane. And he doesnt mention any of the special attacks the different animals get. useless guide.
Nikolaj Kaanbjerg Jensen Yeah if he wanted to update it with the special attacks etc that would be cool. But this is a good start. Can always be updated. Let’s be encouraging.
all the animals have the same dice rolls. i dont get what you are saying . smilodon has 35 str naturally at lvl 20 which is the second highest and with the volume of the attacks it gets its by far the best dps pet
@Liquid Plays Hey dude recently ran into your videos. Keep up the good work! :) I was wondering if you could do a pure mage and how you would spec it? I love the feel of the natural pure mage that's not specialized. Also, Do you have any in-site for managing the kingdom? I always feel lost doing it.
Still new to this game. Struggling in choosing elk or sabertooth as my pet. Some buff spells like acid maw works only on bite attacks which favor dogs/wolfs... hope that won't gimp the elk. Love your videos, when is enhanced animal companions guide coming out? Cheers :)
After this video, I don't want an animal companion anymore xD I thought it was cool there was this much choice, but in the end they seem pretty much the same thing stat wise so... to me, it kind of kills it. Seems like something awfully/lazily designed
If you're not going to take this inaccurate and misinforming video down then at least add the knowledge from the comment section to your description. That smilodon gets 5 attacks which makes it the best and stuff like leopard has the trip attack which makes it 2nd best , etc etc.
Probably a tough question to answer. But do you think a mystic theurge that started as Magus eldritch scion/sacred huntsman is a viable and strong build?
No. You are giving up up to 10 levels of Magus/Inquisitor special abilities in order to progress two of the weakest and slowest spell casting progressions in the game. Not to mention you are dropping your Base Attack Bonus from 2/3 progression to 1/2. You are losing out on saving throw progression as well, giving up good Will and Fortitude progression for bad Fortitude and medium Will. And it is MAD (Multi Attribute Dependent) to boot, needing high Charisma for Eldritch Scion spells, high wisdom for Sacred Huntsman spells. This is just really mechanically bad. But if you want to play it because you find it thematically neat, enjoy. Just realize, this character is going to suck at pretty much everything in the game. (Edit: I had it right in the first place, then over-thought it mistakenly thinking the requirement was 3rd level spells, I've returned the reply back to the original correct version, plus this note.)
With the class. So a Mad Dog barbarian would have an animal companion from level 1. But a cleric with animal domain would only get its companion at level 4
Yes there are some spells you can buff them with. Such as bulls strength or cats grace or magic fang, I'm not sure of the full list. But in short yes, this gives me an idea for another video
Ranger and Druid classes have buff "animal spells". I like the spells that give add on acid damage on melee hits to their pet, very useful for troll content and the duration is level x minute (without meta). In addition you can use the usual blur, displacement, bulls strength, haste etc
@@ArcaneAgent is the level 16 animal companion working as intended, a simple display bug (as in the stats match a level 20 Beast), or is it just straight up broken? Also what tool are you using to powerlevel to test builds?
Most youtubers made in depth videos on animal companions, by keeping this at under the 10m mark it becomes a useful resource to look back at for new build animal companions, it’s also nice to see the giant centipede get some love.
Dude centipede is goooood. Cant be tripped!
You failed to include if they had more then one attack on their turn to attack as well. Elk often gets three attacks, and then others would get pretty good results.
Elk is my favourite mammoth is great for secondary tanking
Too many people liked the sabre-toothed it's not worth it without using the magic fang buff if you ask me
maybe Smilodon with that stats makes you think it's normal BUT literally 5 attacks per round.....outperform every pets
But high miss chance though, compared to the Leopard.
@@charleskulvet4911 Leopard damage/attack is still less than smi and still (d20+modify)*5/round not include spell buffs or items(owner's). Imaging when you get stupid roll and you waste that turn because 2 can only have 1 or 2 rolls
Leopard is my fave
But they do slashing piercing and bludgeoning in their attacks, I believe the smilidon does too
Smile cat is pretty great I do see a general mentality of people noticing stuff being left out but you own the game and do a little reading it isn't hard to figure out which ones do more than one attack. Personally I just enjoy how stupid smiledon gets with buffs.
Love the PK analysis content. Keep it up. There’s not a lot of content up for this game other than basic let’s plays. Love the spreadsheet. Maybe cover other aspects of the game in this style. Again, great job. I would prefer longer tho, more details, special attacks, performance when buffed, etc.
finaly someone who is capabile of saying something without rude words. I coulnd say it better..
Heck yes
I'm amazed by how similar the animal companions are at end game with how different they start early game.
I wish each of the Animal Companions had a different trait or ability to differentiate each of them
@@ArcaneAgent well at least in the tabletop version, you can choose what feats your animals get
I have Dwarf named Ozzy with a war pig. He used to work on a crazy train in the mine around some Ironman. But now he told his mom, Mam I am coming home. :D
You spent a long time on that didnt ya?
@@ArcaneAgent All of 2 minutes
@@ArcaneAgent Tieflings expansion come ou today I believe. Doing builds with them will be interesting
I thought the expansion was next week
@@ArcaneAgent it is NOW, But as of like 6 hours or so ago it was supposed to be today. Oh well. The season pass looks like a descent deal if you have seen that...
"...rolling up a Druid 17 times to do it."
I laugh in WoW.
I also cry.
Yeah I laugh while crying in WoW.
Also you mention the overrun ability for the Mastodon, but not the Elk's extra damage on charge ability, or the centipede's poison etc.
THEN there is the reason that people consider the Smilodon the top tier, the fact that it has 5 attacks. Give it sneak attack dice, or the ability to trip, etc and those not only stack up, but can simply waylay on their own.
Try out the leopard. I like it
Another great video!! I very much appreciate the amount of time you put into your videos and look forward to more of them. I've been putting time into building a fun group for a first time run through. I'm looking into building a heavy companion group with the following classes - Cleric: Herald Caller / Barbarian: Mad Dog / Inquisitor: Monster Tactician / Pure Druid / Sorcerer: Sylvain Sorcerer and your Reach Rogue build. I figure after a run through with this group I can pick a companion class I enjoy the best.
Haha that makes sense
Leveld a druid 17 times for this video...got nothing else to say besides from, mad respect for you dude, god damn.
Thanks man! I appreciate it. Working on some new videos foe the next 2 weeks
People are loving the Smilodon for the attacks/round, BUT: Trip attack is pretty useful from the Leopard and the Wolf aswell as whenever an enemy is tripped: Free AOO for everyone around him MEANING your even more powerful human NPCs and PCs.
I'll need to do some comparisons on those abilities then
Its a question of party composition. If the pet trips a target and the target gets up again, everyone in melee-range gets an AOO. Meaning if you have mostly ranged combatants it's not that impactful obviously. Also Leopards (who trip sooo many times) should have a harder time tripping larger targets and I dont know the rules exactly but I dont know if a Medium Creature can even attempt a trip vs. a Huge or larger creature.
@liquid Plays Definitely go into detail about abilities and attack/rounds. sadly, this current video really does explain much beyond the in-game tooltip.
Yes ive got other videos scheduled to post this week going in depth on different animal companions
Really mastodon can trip 20 people a round an your talking about some crappy dogs
could you do a video explaining the kineticist, how it works and its different variants?
I've used companion pets on several of my main PC lives now and enjoy them and the broad selection available I wouldn't recommend the bear though as the animation has a habit of glitching unless you rest / relog and it looks like the bear is literally crawling / dragging it's a*** on the floor when it moves. One thing I wish the devs would do though as add an icon for pet(s) at the bottom of the screens displaying current and max health. The problem we have right now is your pets health is basically invisible unless you are regularly hitting the "C" key during combat and you don't know when to heal it etc
Oh dang thats a great idea. Also, lets all agree that the Smilidon is overpowered
Maybe Im crazy. But I really like Centipede in my Sensei Crushing Fist team where my goal is just to reduce boss AC as much as possible.
Centipede are awesome, I'm partial to the leopard
The animal companions are a bit bugged. They all get the same damage bonus from power attack, but the animal companions with only one attack are supposed to get 1.5x damage from power attack. However, they do get the correct 1.5x damage from strength.
That's the trade off between animal companions with 1 attack and ones with multiple attacks. The ones with multiple attacks will always have that many attacks, which makes them very powerful at earlier levels. The ones with a single attack gets 1.5x to damage from their strength and they will gain additional iterative attacks when they reach +6 BAB and +11 BAB.
Try using the elk and his charge to start combat hehe
Soooo... you dont list the number of attacks each animal get - that is so much more important and impactfull than the stats you list.. Big difference if 1 gets 2 attacks and another gets 5 attacks. Also you dont list all their special abilities... I am sorry, but this is really a useless video to put , it doesnt tell us anything. You found out nothing. lol
He is including all their attacks in the damage. You think any pet does 30 damage *per attack*?
yes! Nice people online!!
But with all the different buffs (like +2-6 damage per attack) - you can do on a companion, it matters a whole lot if the animal attacks 1 time or 5 times.. Still, obviously it matters that the cat can pounce and make full attack after charge, and the dog and wolf can trip. The leopard can also trip... It makes a HUGE difference and you 6 minutes ignoring everything that matters. This video does not cover any of the important factors, sorry.
I made a 5 minute video. Most youtubers are gonna aim for 10 minutes for them ads.
I could have gone greatly in depth on each and every companion. But that would have been a 40 minute video and most people stop watching any video at 3 minutes.
I do plan on making In Depth Animal Companion videos detailing everything about them. But those are 15 minute videos each
Nope... you spend 5 minutes talking but you dont tell anyone anything usefull. You even made a spreadsheet that is wrong. Just plug into the spreadsheet the important factors. Right now your entire analasis says something like "they are all equal in damage give or take +-15 hp +-2 damage... That is just COMPLETLY wrong. there is a HUGE difference between doing 5 attacks per round and having charge and trip, and doing 2 attacks per round. ...
It would take you about 0 sec of videotime to make a a spreadsheet that ACTUALLY says something about what animal companion is bedst... It would maybe take you 30 sec to explain what special abilities the different animals have, also say why 5 attacks can be much more powerfull than 1 attack.
You should change the tittle of your video because its wrong - you dont explain anything. You leave out all the important stuff and talk about stuff that does not matter.
Bro pleeeaaaase come back for WotR. Just preordered the console version and NEED an updated Aldori Swordlord build! Much love brutha
I ran a party with 6 mastodons, and holy cow the noise!
Some of these would be even kewler if you could ride them. Imagine riding the elk and looking like the Master (or Mistress) of the Wild Hunt.
Riding mastodon would obviously look badass. But for me, ridding doggo or wolf or kittah would be most pro.
Make a half-orc with a boar companion and defend the honor of the original old-school D&D piggy-headed orcs!
Make a halfling riding a centipede
@@ArcaneAgent LoL that would be boss!
I come from the future to bring you good news, random youtube commenter dude.
@@darkness988 Nice
I rewound the video 8 times and for the life of me I don't know how you displayed the stat page for the companion. I'm playing a ranger right now and all I've figured out is I can click on him during combat (but no stat page). Also that spreadsheet is missing a VERY crucial piece of info...number of attacks per round.
Click on your animal and click c
brah smilodon is the dps pet by far 5 attacks per round + pounce.everything else is just bad unless you are a druid then go bear because of the named schimitar you are welcome
it gets 5 attacks but most of them are really weak...can't people add properly?
It's not weak if you buff it with -6 damage per attack with attribute and aoe buffs ... Anyway. pounce is insane. And he doesnt mention any of the special attacks the different animals get. useless guide.
dimitris paraskeuopoulos does the named scimitar only buff a bear and not other animal companions?
Nikolaj Kaanbjerg Jensen Yeah if he wanted to update it with the special attacks etc that would be cool. But this is a good start. Can always be updated. Let’s be encouraging.
all the animals have the same dice rolls. i dont get what you are saying . smilodon has 35 str naturally at lvl 20 which is the second highest and with the volume of the attacks it gets its by far the best dps pet
@Liquid Plays Hey dude recently ran into your videos. Keep up the good work! :) I was wondering if you could do a pure mage and how you would spec it? I love the feel of the natural pure mage that's not specialized.
Also, Do you have any in-site for managing the kingdom? I always feel lost doing it.
Kingdom work is tough, but I need to do a video on it
Can't you have a L20 pet using the Boon Companion feat?
Level 16 is the highest that your pet would get normally even with boon at level 20. At least I think so. I'll test it out tomorrow
forgot about wolf trip!
Yeah I also forgot about leopard trip as well. But I still stream pathfinder kingmaker on my www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent
A dog has does more damage than a bear, leopard, smilodon or mastodon!? Seriously WTF!? Something isn't right with this game.
Still new to this game. Struggling in choosing elk or sabertooth as my pet. Some buff spells like acid maw works only on bite attacks which favor dogs/wolfs... hope that won't gimp the elk. Love your videos, when is enhanced animal companions guide coming out? Cheers :)
Ive got a lot of videos ready for,next week
wow, that's fast. cool!
I know this is a year old but my leopard has a trip attack
hmm, the monitor lizard and the centipede get poison as well which would increase their dmg, right?
They get poison, but they get like 1 attack per round. Also, I don't think the poison is guaranteed to land
After this video, I don't want an animal companion anymore xD I thought it was cool there was this much choice, but in the end they seem pretty much the same thing stat wise so... to me, it kind of kills it. Seems like something awfully/lazily designed
Is the Elk best companion for you necromancer build? Numbers don't lie but an Elk will a weird companion for a necro hahahaha... thanks
I like the elk because of its attacks per round, and his trample/overrun/stampede ability. He instantly charges in and hits people
If you're not going to take this inaccurate and misinforming video down then at least add the knowledge from the comment section to your description. That smilodon gets 5 attacks which makes it the best and stuff like leopard has the trip attack which makes it 2nd best , etc etc.
I could re-visit this video and make another video for each Animal Companion...But I made this video 2 years ago.
@@ArcaneAgent That's exactly why you should update the description. It doesn't matter when you made the video because it still pops up on youtube.
Probably a tough question to answer. But do you think a mystic theurge that started as Magus eldritch scion/sacred huntsman is a viable and strong build?
Huntsmans and magus have slow spell progression right? So you would have a really tough tine with your spells...
But I like challenges
No.
You are giving up up to 10 levels of Magus/Inquisitor special abilities in order to progress two of the weakest and slowest spell casting progressions in the game.
Not to mention you are dropping your Base Attack Bonus from 2/3 progression to 1/2. You are losing out on saving throw progression as well, giving up good Will and Fortitude progression for bad Fortitude and medium Will. And it is MAD (Multi Attribute Dependent) to boot, needing high Charisma for Eldritch Scion spells, high wisdom for Sacred Huntsman spells. This is just really mechanically bad.
But if you want to play it because you find it thematically neat, enjoy. Just realize, this character is going to suck at pretty much everything in the game.
(Edit: I had it right in the first place, then over-thought it mistakenly thinking the requirement was 3rd level spells, I've returned the reply back to the original correct version, plus this note.)
What he said
in the description it says elk gets gore and two hoove attacks, but i only see it say gore on the character sheet. lol what is going on?
When you shift into dragon youre supposed to get some wing attacks as well. But they dont show up either
Don't dogs have bite trip?
Yes, so does the wolf, and the leopard
Wow, super fast reply. Thanks a lot!
I don't have a life
Mastodon for cool points
Dog for annoying scratching and whimpering points
Do the pet companion level up with the character or with the class?
With the class. So a Mad Dog barbarian would have an animal companion from level 1. But a cleric with animal domain would only get its companion at level 4
Also check me out on www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent
Can you buff your companion in game?
Like . . enlarge on the leopard or something?
Yes there are some spells you can buff them with. Such as bulls strength or cats grace or magic fang, I'm not sure of the full list. But in short yes, this gives me an idea for another video
Ranger and Druid classes have buff "animal spells". I like the spells that give add on acid damage on melee hits to their pet, very useful for troll content and the duration is level x minute (without meta). In addition you can use the usual blur, displacement, bulls strength, haste etc
I love that people on my channel are answering questions from 4 months ago. You guys rock
I got lvl 4 leopard, so it's medium size. Does it get -2 dex from size? As it has same dex as lvl 3 leopard. Can someone answer to this?
Has this level cap changed with any of the recent patches and is it at all solved with the Bonded Companion Feat?
Level cap hasn't gone up.
I believe boon companion still only gets your animal companion to 16
@@ArcaneAgent is the level 16 animal companion working as intended, a simple display bug (as in the stats match a level 20 Beast), or is it just straight up broken? Also what tool are you using to powerlevel to test builds?
If you look, I created a video about how i edit my experience points
@@ArcaneAgent That would be in line with the tabletop which never advances ACs past 16, so I expect it's working as intended.
@@davidpeters6743 sweet
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This video is terrible!
Yes it is