Unlike mejais stormsurge is both good when snowballing and when even as it's got on par stats. Making it harder to proc (higher % health) might be the correct way to balance it, since damage tweaks will make it either unusable or op
Doesn't solve the core issue with it. If champs are using it to 1-shot, doesn't matter if it's 10% 30% or 60% in 2s. It simply does too much damage for a passive item effect that is also huge AOE. Compare it to old Night Harvester proc and it's obvious how the effect is problematic. "damage tweaks will make it unusable or op" Untrue, because the passive is multi-faceted. It's a huge AOE and it provides MS to the caster. That's a lot of utility outside of strict damage. If you tune the damage to be lower than other damage-oriented single target procs, the appeal of having additional AOE and MS is still there.
Yeah, don't forget about the critical striking damage on shadowflame. Honestly the most powerful reason to run it on someone like katarina, it's a nasty combo. I feel like cryptbloom might be good on her, the extra heal is actually pretty big, although I do think it would generally be a later item.
As katevolved often says, being good at kat requires time and effort, since you are gonna suck dicks until u learn her limits. Almost every champion beats her and you need to play team fights very well to be effective unless enemy team has no brain
@@YESyeeees yep! That's true! I think Kat is maybe a weak champ afterall. Some champs you just need to land 1 skill and the oponent explodes with one combo after that.
Im new to Katarina wanna ask how u manege to win with this champ really the game feel like if u went for raom u lose waves or plates for a coin flip n if u tryed to win lane u kinda deal no damage n u lose in cs per min anyway so whats ur strategies n how u win lane
@@AhmadHossam thats the neat part, u wont. thats why knowing what each runes to go is useful. pref going d.shield every match since d.blade gives lifesteal now instead of omnivamp which seems useless in early, long sword sucks as well since it doesnt build into anything. proly going d. shield is ur only option no matter the runes and matchup. for roaming, u dont roam as much cuz ur gonna miss a lot of xp if u roam wrongly. pref just ignore and ping when enemy roams while u collect the wave and stay in xp as ur opponent. when u get ur core items theres no way youll lose in a teamfight anyways unless they all build tank and full mr lol
the fun thing about katarina is no matter how well you lane against her she will go into a side lane and WILL get kills. Then at that point it’s not about how you play against her it’s completely dependent on the katarina player not fucking up (AKA button mashing)
as a Kat main, i have to disagree with Protobelt on Kat, the only reason we ran it before was because it had flat pen on it, the only other option was Ludens which we did experiment with for a little bit, but we almost never had to utilize the active since Kat on her own is super mobile given the Kat player micro manages her E resets, Protobelt is storng yes, but not on Kat, there's so many more useful items for her that you almost never go protobelt except for very neice situations such as simply procing a spell shield before team fights. sure it gives HP for more survivability, but why not just build more pure damage? won't need survivability if you just kill the enemy!
@@MrSanctuarys nah i dont think tanky, just played a game storm surge rush with lich bane and probably got the easiest matchup asol but i was perma diving and then took over
@@ricardoromeika950 looks like we were both half right. Looking at his latest vods he rushes lich or roa depending on matchup. Then goes into zhonya or rabadons depending on snowball. Anything else is moot
lots of players meme on kata and her easy kit, 9:08 positioning like this to q hwei over the wall isnt just any kat play, thats kat otp mentality. Ofc midbeast missed it.
Mid lane feels like roaming is a little harder and warding is a lot harder, so if you are a champ wants to just fight it out and shitstomp lanes and skirmishes.... It's wild
adc doing work in solo que? That's a bold statment lmao. They have been complete garbage since season 8. You have to play perfect and have a God tier support and you might get a few autos off in a fight before XYZ champ jumps, dashes, shifts, or walks through walls over half the map to CC you for 3sec, misses 2 of 4 abilites, and still two shots you in 0.75 sec. All while healing 75% of their hp bars or getting an overshield for half their HP just for looking at you lol.
katarina is not busted, ap items are busted, bruiser items got deleted, AD carries are worse because there's more dmg in the game, game is trash right now. How the ap items got past testing phase is beyond me.
Thats the funny thing these are nerfed from what they were on the pbe but just like stattik shiv it only got a slap on the wrist when it came out of pbe lol
Kata isn't an ez champ but when he got the quadra and Drew pointed out it looks ez but it isn't he is kinda wrong. Kata is hard to play in lane and she is kinda bad early but if u get not even that big of a lead it's quite ez to just roam around and oneshot people without even being sure yourself what is happening at times.
u have a point there i mean obviously if a champ is ahead they can just trash on ppl, same thing can happen with zed, akali, etc. but it's worth pointing out that what midbeast was trying to say there was to reposition better and be opportunistic with ur reset passive, zed could just play around with his shadow or akali with her dashes and invi, if the execution didnt work. but with kata, u just hope for the best that can happen like team backing u up, exactly what happened with rakan and kayle good ult there
@@kadabravlstarsvidioop2757 VORACITY Whenever an enemy champion dies that Katarina has damaged recently, her remaining ability cooldowns are dramatically reduced. If Katarina picks up a Dagger, she uses it to slash through all nearby enemies, dealing magic damage.
Hands? Kat is legit the most unskilled broken shit 100 Insta dashes with no cool-down or mana if u play adc can be 20/0 and the 0/10 Kat will come and one shot you through 50 perfectly kited auto with her point and click instakill dash
@@R42-r1c0 cooldowns is wrong, 0/10 on katarina = lost game and no damage, if you kite correctly you kill kata easily cuz of how squishy she is and her whole ult/kit is countered by 1 stun
@user-eq2jp6lz7h 50 autos?? Bro if you're getting 50 autos off as an adc and still not killing an assassin, you have to be so far behind that you talking about anyone having hands is a joke.
@@R42-r1cnot true, there is a reason why pros dont pick Kata, they do pick adc in mid though, like trist, and even adc support. We dont see kata mid or bot cause she is simply too risky and difficult in pro play.
Midbeast be like... im midbeast
No way! That’s jest like him 😮
And he'd be right as always
Huh, never realized how sick Kayle ult is on Katarina
12:30
20:45
22:25
you're new to the game then
Or just that no one plays Kayle
kayles in my games always ult themselves making us lose fights.
Taric better
Midbeast is so humble not reviewing himself, despite climbing faster than everyone
for some reason a lot of people dont know katevolved played in pro play and doesnt only know how to play katarina
21:45 - doesnt Kata E apply on hit aka Lich Bane? So he doesn't need to Auto after E. Prolly why he builds it, no?
more dmg.... and the 100 ap
yes it procs. late game pretty much one shots a squishy with e
Unlike mejais stormsurge is both good when snowballing and when even as it's got on par stats.
Making it harder to proc (higher % health) might be the correct way to balance it, since damage tweaks will make it either unusable or op
Doesn't solve the core issue with it. If champs are using it to 1-shot, doesn't matter if it's 10% 30% or 60% in 2s. It simply does too much damage for a passive item effect that is also huge AOE. Compare it to old Night Harvester proc and it's obvious how the effect is problematic.
"damage tweaks will make it unusable or op"
Untrue, because the passive is multi-faceted. It's a huge AOE and it provides MS to the caster. That's a lot of utility outside of strict damage. If you tune the damage to be lower than other damage-oriented single target procs, the appeal of having additional AOE and MS is still there.
I think the main problem with it is the magic pen it gives, give that 10 magic pen to luden's
@@Imagine_Baggins and now its a bad item on her
Yeah, don't forget about the critical striking damage on shadowflame. Honestly the most powerful reason to run it on someone like katarina, it's a nasty combo. I feel like cryptbloom might be good on her, the extra heal is actually pretty big, although I do think it would generally be a later item.
Bless you Middlemaster!
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Stormsurge is broken
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13:06 He makes it look so easy. When I tryed to play kat I just jumped around like a popcorn without killing anyone in the end. Hahahahaha
As katevolved often says, being good at kat requires time and effort, since you are gonna suck dicks until u learn her limits. Almost every champion beats her and you need to play team fights very well to be effective unless enemy team has no brain
Also katevolved is completely on another level, even compared to other kat onetricks
@@YESyeeees yep! That's true! I think Kat is maybe a weak champ afterall. Some champs you just need to land 1 skill and the oponent explodes with one combo after that.
Bless you daddy Beast
When conqueror came out, I was running it on Vel'Koz and building RoA. I could play so agro and just never die. lol
10:47 is actually good to have storm surge there (assuming I read it right) if you kill some one before it procs the bonus dmg you get 30 gold
4:22 As an OTP KAT i 100% agree with this.
Im new to Katarina wanna ask how u manege to win with this champ
really the game feel like if u went for raom u lose waves or plates for a coin flip n if u tryed to win lane u kinda deal no damage n u lose in cs per min anyway so whats ur strategies n how u win lane
@@AhmadHossam go watch katevolved or any highelo kat and copie wjat they do
@@AhmadHossamYou perma coinflip or loosr
@@AhmadHossam thats the neat part, u wont. thats why knowing what each runes to go is useful. pref going d.shield every match since d.blade gives lifesteal now instead of omnivamp which seems useless in early, long sword sucks as well since it doesnt build into anything. proly going d. shield is ur only option no matter the runes and matchup. for roaming, u dont roam as much cuz ur gonna miss a lot of xp if u roam wrongly. pref just ignore and ping when enemy roams while u collect the wave and stay in xp as ur opponent. when u get ur core items theres no way youll lose in a teamfight anyways unless they all build tank and full mr lol
Katevovled is funny as hell, idk why he gets clowned on for past shit that wasn’t even on him
What happened in the past?
How s that guy funny?
can u not be insufferable@@Kassayiadin
drama with professor akali and moe yassuo basically. i forgot the details but yea@@veronicaortega8164
he was toxic as fuck to other kat mains
19:25 is comedy gold
Finally a video on this mechanics legend
the fun thing about katarina is no matter how well you lane against her she will go into a side lane and WILL get kills. Then at that point it’s not about how you play against her it’s completely dependent on the katarina player not fucking up (AKA button mashing)
10:03 stormsurge gives me looks of deathfire grasp kinda
"We're not a doctor we can't say that"
midbeast did bro so dirty in the thumbnail 🤣
Hey Mid, what headphones are you using? Thanks!
Bless you midbeast
Drew looking like a snack but like is he high?
as a Kat main, i have to disagree with Protobelt on Kat, the only reason we ran it before was because it had flat pen on it, the only other option was Ludens which we did experiment with for a little bit, but we almost never had to utilize the active since Kat on her own is super mobile given the Kat player micro manages her E resets, Protobelt is storng yes, but not on Kat, there's so many more useful items for her that you almost never go protobelt except for very neice situations such as simply procing a spell shield before team fights. sure it gives HP for more survivability, but why not just build more pure damage? won't need survivability if you just kill the enemy!
00:03 yeah kata comes on top always as feeding. 0-10 every time vs my yi on mid or support
Damn Midbeans are you using a new skincare routine? Looking radiant my man
what do you think about taliyah jungle? im so sad liandrys doesnt give mana anymore
MF, varus, and jhin are the only ADCs ive seen performing in low to mid emerald
That camera quality is greater than your chance of winning against Baus
he is winning though
i really wanted to know what mangofish goes instead of stormsurge that makes sense? lost chapter into lichbane? ludens companion finish?
Wondering that too
Was thinking either the item that makes your ultimate burn enemies when hit or a tanky setup again
@@MrSanctuarys nah i dont think tanky, just played a game storm surge rush with lich bane and probably got the easiest matchup asol but i was perma diving and then took over
@@ricardoromeika950 looks like we were both half right. Looking at his latest vods he rushes lich or roa depending on matchup. Then goes into zhonya or rabadons depending on snowball. Anything else is moot
@@MrSanctuarys ayy ty for the insights! gl brotha! fizz banned alot right now tho in plat 1, what elo u in?
lots of players meme on kata and her easy kit,
9:08 positioning like this to q hwei over the wall isnt just any kat play, thats kat otp mentality. Ofc midbeast missed it.
Mid lane feels like roaming is a little harder and warding is a lot harder, so if you are a champ wants to just fight it out and shitstomp lanes and skirmishes.... It's wild
Bless you midbeast❤❤❤❤
I tried the interaction with ignite and shadowflame and it doesn't work.
ye i like defenetly how he spams his hold key and wiggles around and still eats every skillshot of liss xD
bless you midbeast!!
14:14 WHO DAT GUY IN THE BACK=
Dr.midbeast says my cancer was a misdiagnosis, always get a second opinion
bless you Mr. Beast's brother
KATEVOLVED AND PROFESSOR AKALI, ASSASSIN MAINS, BOTH ALWAYS SAY "XD" 😂
You gotta be a Certified Bruh Moment Gamer to main Kat
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bless you bro, looking big today
dang drew really made this vid after getting clapped by nyro lmao
whys ur camera 8k now
Bless you my glorious MidBeast
3:06 Skrattinn sleppi þér!
The way he is moving his camera around... I cant, epilepsy 100%
bless you Mr.Beast
adc doing work in solo que? That's a bold statment lmao. They have been complete garbage since season 8. You have to play perfect and have a God tier support and you might get a few autos off in a fight before XYZ champ jumps, dashes, shifts, or walks through walls over half the map to CC you for 3sec, misses 2 of 4 abilites, and still two shots you in 0.75 sec. All while healing 75% of their hp bars or getting an overshield for half their HP just for looking at you lol.
Volume UP bro :) Not sure where you were but the volume is a little down, keep rocking bro !
Congrats for the 5000 dollers
Stormsurge + Shadowflame ANYTHING??? RIOT? + Banshee is sooo good on champs like Kata now
Vid of your taliyah when?
Do a vid on that Ekko main
Grandma will bless you when you hit 500k
Chinur, Americur, Australiur, Koreur or EU? What's most fun? @Midbeast
bless you mido beasto san
funny enough but AD kata has 50% more dmg this patch
Did u ever play kata 😂
@@miha_d_bom1621 go practice mode and test it yourself
Wyrmfallen Sacrifice / Mercury´s / Titanic Hydra / Icathia´s curse / Last tank item based on enemys ^^ Try it, its so broken!!!
I dont get why he was sleeping on zhonyas. Get the stopwatch and it's 120 AP now.
katarina is not busted, ap items are busted, bruiser items got deleted, AD carries are worse because there's more dmg in the game, game is trash right now. How the ap items got past testing phase is beyond me.
Thats the funny thing these are nerfed from what they were on the pbe but just like stattik shiv it only got a slap on the wrist when it came out of pbe lol
Acting like riot uses pbe for testing purposes and it’s not just a tool for UA-camrs to clickbait farm broken items in the next patch 😂
@@jaysunny420 honestly so true lmao 90% of the stuff thats broken on pbe doesnt get patched properly
Katarina is a rtrded champ design she’s busted u don’t even need lane fundementals
yea but weak@@breese2825
Why is bro so majestic?
midbeast is so pretty, looking at him is satisfying
Great video by the midbreast
Are you in holland?
My guy mangofish playing again do him brother❤
Mb you are already doing it😂
Bless you Drew
Mr bidmeast you make me want to keep living
Bless you midbeans
everyone wants to buy his sneeze
MangoFisch video is needed
Kata isn't an ez champ but when he got the quadra and Drew pointed out it looks ez but it isn't he is kinda wrong. Kata is hard to play in lane and she is kinda bad early but if u get not even that big of a lead it's quite ez to just roam around and oneshot people without even being sure yourself what is happening at times.
Very very easy braindead no skill champ a monkey could play Kat and get fed
u have a point there i mean obviously if a champ is ahead they can just trash on ppl, same thing can happen with zed, akali, etc. but it's worth pointing out that what midbeast was trying to say there was to reposition better and be opportunistic with ur reset passive, zed could just play around with his shadow or akali with her dashes and invi, if the execution didnt work. but with kata, u just hope for the best that can happen like team backing u up, exactly what happened with rakan and kayle good ult there
As it stands, katarina can 1 shot an adc with her e+passive lol
what passive lol
@@kadabravlstarsvidioop2757 VORACITY
Whenever an enemy champion dies that Katarina has damaged recently, her remaining ability cooldowns are dramatically reduced. If Katarina picks up a Dagger, she uses it to slash through all nearby enemies, dealing magic damage.
not at all lol
@@wsad1337 Literally stating it as a fact, but alright
@@cody6550 Your "fact" need a lot more context before it's even considered a valid argument, but alright
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midbeast man youre always 500k subs cmon cmonnnn
i don't know if ad is just op or what but i feel a whole lot more comfortable and my performance is much better playing ad than playing ap 😭
nash first into lichbane or shadowflame way better than stormsurge first
BLESS THAT SNEEZE MIDBEAST
yo nyro got a shout out too :D
A lotta bless yous.
I got yall covered.
everyone wants to buy his sneeze
U r benefit the most if u r melee on stormsurge. Akali is nut with it.
bless you
how is a dshield a "korean set up" rofl. dude just wants a bit more sustainability
can you do a video on elite500's new vladimir midobeasto 🥺🥺😣😣
can you find me a Shyvana one trick in challenger or grandmaster in the major region to give me some advice？XD, I bet if there is any
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Uncle Drew, we need new beifeng video. Thank you.
Bless you midbeans :p
Bless you, from sweden.
Bro mages are so much worse. They are so unbelivably broken. At least Kat requires hands.
Hands? Kat is legit the most unskilled broken shit 100 Insta dashes with no cool-down or mana if u play adc can be 20/0 and the 0/10 Kat will come and one shot you through 50 perfectly kited auto with her point and click instakill dash
@@R42-r1c0 cooldowns is wrong, 0/10 on katarina = lost game and no damage, if you kite correctly you kill kata easily cuz of how squishy she is and her whole ult/kit is countered by 1 stun
@@R42-r1c how much copium are u on
@user-eq2jp6lz7h 50 autos?? Bro if you're getting 50 autos off as an adc and still not killing an assassin, you have to be so far behind that you talking about anyone having hands is a joke.
@@R42-r1cnot true, there is a reason why pros dont pick Kata, they do pick adc in mid though, like trist, and even adc support. We dont see kata mid or bot cause she is simply too risky and difficult in pro play.
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soon nerfed into nothing
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