I'd like you to put his previous graphics card back in and re-render these scenes and tell us the time differences. THAT would be much more practical from a real-world perspective.
EposVox and LTT also tested it for rendering, in Blender too but mainly slides showing final render times and sample outputs etc, not actively showing viewports and such
Note to everyone here. Keep an eye out for the 3000 series cards to go down dramatically in price the coming weeks because of this launch. We all want the best but honestly, grabbing a solid 3000 series card might be more bang for the buck so it's worth checking out at least.
Unless you're going for the 4090, the 4000 series is not worth it. A 3080 video card has almost the same amount of CUDA cores than any 4 000 video cards.
Honestly man, it’s always the same about new GPUs. Before everyone was hyped for the 3090. I can honestly say a 3090 is still absolutely butter smooth. For your current examples shown I cannot see that much of a performance increase but I appreciate your content man. 👍🏼
I was thinking the same. My 3090 gives the same viewport results but I'm sure the 4090 is going to kill in heavy final renders. Having 24Gb of ram is more important to me than the clock speed differences of the 3090 vs 4090.
@@Puckerization talking about games with DLSS support I’m on for it. For someone who is in the game with a 3090 already I really don’t think it’s worth to make any change. But I think it’s the only true way to compare - 3090 vs 4090.
This could be a more helpful video if it contained an outdoor scene with HDRI and some volumetrics instead of simple shapes with somewhat medium shading.
they area already out there, the performance increase seems to be quite huge, 75% or more, and that is sort of in line with gaming tests they have done with these, games can't utilize full potential of the 4090 yet, but the performance increase is quite dramatic there as well
Those are way lighter scenes bruh, it's like having a flamethrower but using it to light up a cigarette. Based on your scenes you showcased it's not really impressive.. I would be expecting some heavy scenes that's actually put the card to the test...dense forestry scene, some demo scenes on blender site would work so..but an abstract donut and a couple of hexagons?..really?
I love noise too. Off topic, I find that I do not like editing my fujifilm jpegs in photoshop because the grain pattern they baked into the in camera hardware is just so awesome. Love this review, I have been building a PC for blender and unreal engine after years of sticking to 2d art and photography, I think I might spring for a 4090. Thanks for focusing on real world creative output. I doubt I hardly game on the PC.
It's privileged to be sponsored by such a big company, congratulations mate, You are right person to do it. It's lovely to watch you tutorials. Regards. 😍
1 bounce? really? that's a dirt cheap test. tbh this artsy rendering doesn't need much, but colors. could crank that way up tho for realistic scenes. spread some light. GI. bouncing refeflections. all that good stuff. you know?!? decent showcase tho. yo
God thank you for making this. I've been on the fence for a while. Can you do a follow up video in a month? I want to know if you still like it down the line
Who would have thought that the best graphics card you can currently buy works well?! Crazy video dude! Totally insane that it performs as it should! Changed my life!
Would love to see how it handles more complex scenes. Not quite familiar with blender but I do use Octane render within C4D and love creating HEAVY volumetric scenes with vast amounts of scattered light, high quality hdri's etc. Most of the 3D models I use, if not all, run 4k (pbr) textures with very high polygon counts. I tend to use a lot of the kitbash3D assets as well. Currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X, 64gb's ram and a 3060ti and I'm actually surprised how well it still handles everything, mind you render times are a bit slow at times, although I usually keep my OOC Ram usage set to 32gbs for now. Definitely plan on getting a 4090 and maybe double up my ram as well.
Im sorry dude but I am going to listen to the PC Building Channels with concerns over the internals, shotty fire hazard Wires and Pin's before I go listening to a Sponsored 3D Channel about how great it is at Rendering. I am sure its great at Rendering but i would not be promoting this Grenade of a Product right now even as a Sponsor
I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but you got a 4090 and this is how you use it? The simplest scene ever with low render settings, the biggest waste of sponsored stuff that I've ever seen. You could at least have opened the classic class room scene and given us something that actually shows what that card can do.
@@naupoleon3d Europe probably has import tarriffs/taxes, shipping charges, among other "fees", as well. But for the most part, in the US at least, 4090's should float around $1600, if Nvidia and other card manufactures manage to keep a curb on Crypto-miners sucking up all the cards they can. The reason 3090's were so hard to get and cost SO DAMNED MUCH. Locking the GPUs clock speed, and possibly limited how many yo can buy at one time should slow them down a let Gamers and 3d Artist have at them.
I can’t believe we finally arrived at the point of having rendering times as close as real time engines in video games, but with engines that use path tracing Aldo the price is not recommendable, at least we arrived at this point!
my man.... 32 samples and 1 max bounces on 4090??????? i was rendering 14mil hair particle (grass) on 1070ti with much higher samples and bounces. Please show us something that excites us!
Hey Ducky! Just found your video while browsing for 3D benchmarking for the 4090. Was wondering if you might have any interest in providing that hexagonal wave scene with the green lights as a benchmarkable file for everyone even if it's not ultra complex per se? I have a very thorough 3090 benchmark video on my channel despite being a small UA-camr and would gladly incorporate your bench into my workload results if I could. Thanks!
That is awesome! the one thing that I like about 3000 series is that you can run them with nvlink(I think only 3090 and 3090ti). witch allows you to stack ram instead of run them in parallel. The option appear when you have 2 nvlinked cards in blender setting under the listed "Render devises".
To me a heavy scene is anything over 10 million polygons. The RTX 3090 seems to be indiscernible from the RTX 4090 in these video demonstrations. For me it's relatively instantaneous about the same as EV rendering in cycles.
These ain't no Blender scenes. I'd like to see this on one of my bloat-monster scenes with 4k textures and 3 sudiv'd Quixel scans with volumetric lights.
Please ducky, I have a question, have you had any issues with melting cables? Thanks in advance I want to get into animation and video editing, just sold my 3090 FE for $720 after ebay fees :( I kinda regret it due to the melting cable issue. I am also looking forward to get the FE version. Your feedback or anyone else's is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
would of loved to see your viewport rendering settings increased, like get rid of noise threshhold and crank the samples waaaaay up let us see what the card can do in real time
After a whole year past, whould you still recommend that graphics card to invest? or should I wait for new comers? I'm still no sure what to do, please give me some advice.
I think this might be enough even for an artist working for Marvel. He would play around with Thanos, then render the static image in about 30 seconds and export 24 fps animation to check out how he moves in 1 hour for a five second sequence.
Well, dont make excuses, if you see a problem then. Record with 100mb/s bitrate and render and upload with 4k resolution, then the video wont be a pixelated mess
What were the specs of the overall machine you used? My machine hosting my 2080Tiwont be enough so I'm looking at a whole new machine for Blender. However, I'm not a PC builder so any tips you can share will be most welcome!
I don't know why everyone is making a fuss about the price of these cards. A 3090ti was around $1,600 a few months ago. Basically it's two 3090tis. Twice the power, same price.
Low range starting point tbh. Most computers around that price range are built in mind as being a decent high-end gaming rig but should be able to handle small, basic scenes for 3D modeling, rendering, etc. Depending on your hardware specs and what you're planning on creating. It's always good to aim a bit higher. I've spent around $5k Canadian so far on my rig, which is around the mid range starting point for a decent 3D workstation and I'm still upgrading it with everything I've learned so far. I find it's best to aim for a 12 or even 16core cpu, 32-64gbs of ram and a really good gpu card, all running on a decent motherboard with proper cooling, power usage, nvme drive's, etc, especially If you're planning on using a gpu based render engine, always good to have a well built rig to handle it all.
If you’re looking for benchmarks check this out twitter.com/cggeeks/status/1579904086711095296?s=46&t=g5vIS9ieKAONWaKMog8nYA
I'd like you to put his previous graphics card back in and re-render these scenes and tell us the time differences. THAT would be much more practical from a real-world perspective.
Yes youre first creator to test 4090 for 3d rendering
Yes it's no where on UA-cam
And that child was Albert einstein
EposVox and LTT also tested it for rendering, in Blender too but mainly slides showing final render times and sample outputs etc, not actively showing viewports and such
It's honestly the only thing it should be used for. There's no reason to get one for playing video games.
@@blubase06 I’m getting one for minesweeper and roblox
Note to everyone here. Keep an eye out for the 3000 series cards to go down dramatically in price the coming weeks because of this launch. We all want the best but honestly, grabbing a solid 3000 series card might be more bang for the buck so it's worth checking out at least.
3090s are around 800ish on ebay, wouldnt go lower than that due to likely hood of scam.
Unless you're going for the 4090, the 4000 series is not worth it. A 3080 video card has almost the same amount of CUDA cores than any 4 000 video cards.
Yeah 3080/3090 are still an absolute monsters, especially in the viewport
I mean a lot of things would be better than my 1660 lol. It is sadly one of the things that is currently holding me back on a lot of projects.
I picked up a 3060 for about 275
Honestly man, it’s always the same about new GPUs. Before everyone was hyped for the 3090. I can honestly say a 3090 is still absolutely butter smooth. For your current examples shown I cannot see that much of a performance increase but I appreciate your content man. 👍🏼
yeah, for sure.
I was thinking the same. My 3090 gives the same viewport results but I'm sure the 4090 is going to kill in heavy final renders.
Having 24Gb of ram is more important to me than the clock speed differences of the 3090 vs 4090.
@@Puckerization talking about games with DLSS support I’m on for it. For someone who is in the game with a 3090 already I really don’t think it’s worth to make any change. But I think it’s the only true way to compare - 3090 vs 4090.
Yeah, I love my 3080ti but really want more memory so will be looking for the best price for a 3000 series.
Same. They render the same speed and that’s truly sad. I was expecting 15 sec renders from all the hype. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
I'll buying the 4090 exclusively for blender. Hope I get happy with the performance jump from the 1080ti.
You definitely will.
I will upgrade from a freaking 1050ti. Can't even imagine the difference
It's going to blow your socks off
How much RAM do you have?
Im upgrading from 2060. Can't wait to have that viewport performance!
Would be nice to compare it screen to screen with 3090
I have been watching 3090 and 4090 videos and the 4090 seems to be handling things so much more crisply.
Definitely more to come, but LTT already did a comparison and it was basically 2x across the board on all scenes.
3090 rendered at the same speed. This is all smoke and mirrors. Look at blender render videos of the 3090.
This could be a more helpful video if it contained an outdoor scene with HDRI and some volumetrics instead of simple shapes with somewhat medium shading.
Surely you can crank up viewport samples to more than 32 now. Would like to see render time comparisons between 4090 and 3090.
they area already out there, the performance increase seems to be quite huge, 75% or more, and that is sort of in line with gaming tests they have done with these, games can't utilize full potential of the 4090 yet, but the performance increase is quite dramatic there as well
I'll plan to bench it with a lot of the stock benchmarkable scenes once I can snag a card.
4090 looks really good, but how different is this from a 3090 or 3080 variation
The speed in which it renders a near-final-quality product on demand is just fucking nuts!
I want one !!
Those are way lighter scenes bruh, it's like having a flamethrower but using it to light up a cigarette. Based on your scenes you showcased it's not really impressive..
I would be expecting some heavy scenes that's actually put the card to the test...dense forestry scene, some demo scenes on blender site would work so..but an abstract donut and a couple of hexagons?..really?
It's interesting but we don't have any reference time. That would be maybe better to compare with your old GPU
I love noise too. Off topic, I find that I do not like editing my fujifilm jpegs in photoshop because the grain pattern they baked into the in camera hardware is just so awesome.
Love this review, I have been building a PC for blender and unreal engine after years of sticking to 2d art and photography, I think I might spring for a 4090. Thanks for focusing on real world creative output. I doubt I hardly game on the PC.
I'm curious about the change in optix performance with dlss 3.0. Any obvious improvement in denoise speed?
This is the best free software Ive seen. Respect.
light bounces set to 1? on rtx 4090?
Seeing how fast it updates realtime (despite a relatively simple scene) is pretty impressive. Would love to see this with a much heavier scene.
The million dollar question is how RDNA3 will perform with Blender , hardware & software wise
It's privileged to be sponsored by such a big company, congratulations mate, You are right person to do it. It's lovely to watch you tutorials. Regards. 😍
I've got 4070 ti. It's also great despite some hating reviews and I think it's a good purchase for many considering prices here in Australia.
1 bounce? really? that's a dirt cheap test. tbh this artsy rendering doesn't need much, but colors. could crank that way up tho for realistic scenes. spread some light. GI. bouncing refeflections. all that good stuff. you know?!? decent showcase tho. yo
God thank you for making this. I've been on the fence for a while. Can you do a follow up video in a month? I want to know if you still like it down the line
Who would have thought that the best graphics card you can currently buy works well?! Crazy video dude! Totally insane that it performs as it should! Changed my life!
Ikr
You were so underwhelmed. Thank you!!
Would love to see how it handles more complex scenes. Not quite familiar with blender but I do use Octane render within C4D and love creating HEAVY volumetric scenes with vast amounts of scattered light, high quality hdri's etc. Most of the 3D models I use, if not all, run 4k (pbr) textures with very high polygon counts. I tend to use a lot of the kitbash3D assets as well. Currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X, 64gb's ram and a 3060ti and I'm actually surprised how well it still handles everything, mind you render times are a bit slow at times, although I usually keep my OOC Ram usage set to 32gbs for now. Definitely plan on getting a 4090 and maybe double up my ram as well.
Im sorry dude but I am going to listen to the PC Building Channels with concerns over the internals, shotty fire hazard Wires and Pin's before I go listening to a Sponsored 3D Channel about how great it is at Rendering. I am sure its great at Rendering but i would not be promoting this Grenade of a Product right now even as a Sponsor
"NVIDIA was kind enough to sponsor this video"
thats all I needed to hear, no need to watch anymore.
I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but you got a 4090 and this is how you use it? The simplest scene ever with low render settings, the biggest waste of sponsored stuff that I've ever seen. You could at least have opened the classic class room scene and given us something that actually shows what that card can do.
Nvidia RTX 4090 is priced around $1600. I was expecting over $2000. I think I'll upgrade by the end of the year.
Taxes ma dude...at least in Europe is 2000+
@@naupoleon3d
Europe probably has import tarriffs/taxes, shipping charges, among other "fees", as well.
But for the most part, in the US at least, 4090's should float around $1600, if Nvidia and other card manufactures manage to keep a curb on Crypto-miners sucking up all the cards they can. The reason 3090's were so hard to get and cost SO DAMNED MUCH. Locking the GPUs clock speed, and possibly limited how many yo can buy at one time should slow them down a let Gamers and 3d Artist have at them.
personally, i feel that noise looks so much better than no noise.
Given a 4090... I'm a little jealous. But if I am honest, you will do more with it than I would.
The title of this video is like saying "the Ferrari is a fast car"
A useful and competent explanation, so I tried it and it turned out that everything works fine. Special thanks to the author for such useful content.
I can’t believe we finally arrived at the point of having rendering times as close as real time engines in video games, but with engines that use path tracing
Aldo the price is not recommendable, at least we arrived at this point!
the fnaf animator 3000
@@Chamsou_ lol heya buddy
my man.... 32 samples and 1 max bounces on 4090??????? i was rendering 14mil hair particle (grass) on 1070ti with much higher samples and bounces.
Please show us something that excites us!
Hey Ducky! Just found your video while browsing for 3D benchmarking for the 4090. Was wondering if you might have any interest in providing that hexagonal wave scene with the green lights as a benchmarkable file for everyone even if it's not ultra complex per se? I have a very thorough 3090 benchmark video on my channel despite being a small UA-camr and would gladly incorporate your bench into my workload results if I could. Thanks!
is it worth it for me to upgrade from my 3080ti? i also get basically realtime rendering in cycles.
That is awesome! the one thing that I like about 3000 series is that you can run them with nvlink(I think only 3090 and 3090ti). witch allows you to stack ram instead of run them in parallel. The option appear when you have 2 nvlinked cards in blender setting under the listed "Render devises".
Oh yeah, look at the new card spinning 3 cubes and 4 balls wow that's the speed!
You should compare it to 3090ti or dual 3090ti. I'm upgrading my Blender machine.
@@choppiecortez8213 that is my plan
To me a heavy scene is anything over 10 million polygons. The RTX 3090 seems to be indiscernible from the RTX 4090 in these video demonstrations. For me it's relatively instantaneous about the same as EV rendering in cycles.
I recently went from a 650gpu to an rtx 2060. Yep..lovin it
You deserve the best, thanks for teaching me this wonderful program.
basically you have 0 rendering limits you could make a Pixar animation if you wanted to😂😂😂😂😂😂
Could you do a benchmark with the standard blender scences like the BMW or the classroom scene?
congratulations, I would like to see a render of a large loaded scene with a lot of geometry that requires a lot of video memory
and build tracks from there and leave the rest for a later session. I did both but did the first way initially and it took a day to get through
Hey Ducky. Neat video, thank you. Just out of curiosity: What's the rest of your setup here? CPU, RAM, storage. Thanks.
i am just wondering, Nvidia do have a A series card for AI/Graphic render, so Gefore or A-series?
My Dream GPU ❤❤… I use GTX 1650 😅😅🙈🙈
:-) you are my Inspiration sir... Do u know that
I use gtx 1050
@@VerifiedSam ❤️❤️ Bro
Arre bhai same here 3090 mil jaye 4090 toh bohut zor ki baat hai
@@Kryptonian0024 bhai main to 3060 me Avatar Movie Render kr dunga ... hahaha
These ain't no Blender scenes. I'd like to see this on one of my bloat-monster scenes with 4k textures and 3 sudiv'd Quixel scans with volumetric lights.
is it shipped with a free computer ?
This is the news I was waiting for!
Please ducky, I have a question, have you had any issues with melting cables? Thanks in advance I want to get into animation and video editing, just sold my 3090 FE for $720 after ebay fees :( I kinda regret it due to the melting cable issue. I am also looking forward to get the FE version. Your feedback or anyone else's is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
I have not had any melting cables
would of loved to see your viewport rendering settings increased, like get rid of noise threshhold and crank the samples waaaaay up let us see what the card can do in real time
Did you upgrade your rig with a new ATX 3.0 PSU?
this is wild
Thx for this. Would love to have seen something with Unreal Engine 5.
Hi , What's difference between Nvidia RTX 4090 performs ?
It would be a perfect replacement for my Kidneys
It is super fast 👍
I was waiting for the video since I saw that story on Instagram.
1600 USD and its the top model/gpu on the consumer market atm
Thank you so much you really help me :)
After a whole year past, whould you still recommend that graphics card to invest? or should I wait for new comers? I'm still no sure what to do, please give me some advice.
What do you think about 4060 for rendering?
Hey Ducky, I’m just wondering, are you around socal?
Congrats!!! Possibly EEVEE real time animations will benefit from it too!
Thank you very much for your key......1000% work :)
I think this might be enough even for an artist working for Marvel. He would play around with Thanos, then render the static image in about 30 seconds and export 24 fps animation to check out how he moves in 1 hour for a five second sequence.
Well, dont make excuses, if you see a problem then. Record with 100mb/s bitrate and render and upload with 4k resolution, then the video wont be a pixelated mess
I thought you would do a 3D animation video with the logo of NVidea 😢
nice, i will need to sell the kidneys of mu whole neighborhood to get one though.
awesome performance
So your telling me I wasted my money buying a 3090 at the beginning of the year with all the inflation and chip shortages!
Yes
@@JedHurricane perfect avatar
@@thelawgameplaywithcommenta2654 You don't say
4090 gpu render is better and faster of a AMD 2000eu threadripper CPU? Blender is better than Corona for interior design? Thanks!
What were the specs of the overall machine you used? My machine hosting my 2080Tiwont be enough so I'm looking at a whole new machine for Blender. However, I'm not a PC builder so any tips you can share will be most welcome!
i use 4070, should i upgrade or wait ?
I will know soon ☺️
Weirdly I havent seen any 4090 review with rendering benchmarks
its not like its literally the most powerful consumer card thats ever been created,
its literally faster than their dedicated studio cards 😐
God damn, thank you
You've really sold it, now to find a place to sell me one on launch 😂
This helped a lot thank you
Ohhh how lucky are you!!
Hi no matter what I do in blender my RTX 4090 fans never spin, any ideas???
I loved it it gave me a idea that its worth it
Could you upload some other benchmark please ? for example, bmw, classroom or other scene that we can compare the result of render speed to our GPU.
Only 32 samples in viewport and also blame OBS?
Yes, if you saw the screen in person it looks different from the recording, it’s a different type of pixelation than the ray tracing.
Love your work❤Learned a lot from you
I don't know why everyone is making a fuss about the price of these cards. A 3090ti was around $1,600 a few months ago. Basically it's two 3090tis. Twice the power, same price.
Hey Ducky can you show us how to make the hefty scene its really interesting
Hopefully mining people won't go nuts over the 3090 because those cards will hopefully go down on price ......
What Pc would you recommend for 3d modelling and rendering in blender, my budget is around £1200 - £1500?
Low range starting point tbh. Most computers around that price range are built in mind as being a decent high-end gaming rig but should be able to handle small, basic scenes for 3D modeling, rendering, etc. Depending on your hardware specs and what you're planning on creating. It's always good to aim a bit higher. I've spent around $5k Canadian so far on my rig, which is around the mid range starting point for a decent 3D workstation and I'm still upgrading it with everything I've learned so far. I find it's best to aim for a 12 or even 16core cpu, 32-64gbs of ram and a really good gpu card, all running on a decent motherboard with proper cooling, power usage, nvme drive's, etc, especially If you're planning on using a gpu based render engine, always good to have a well built rig to handle it all.
why didn't you increase the noise threshold??
how did he add that environment fog with subtle light ray? i can't find fog block in outliner
This card power also shows on your electric bill.
did you have to upgrade everything else in your PC to handle having a 4090 though?
Wish he had tested some actual scenes and not just a few simple geometric shapes.