EposVox and LTT also tested it for rendering, in Blender too but mainly slides showing final render times and sample outputs etc, not actively showing viewports and such
Note to everyone here. Keep an eye out for the 3000 series cards to go down dramatically in price the coming weeks because of this launch. We all want the best but honestly, grabbing a solid 3000 series card might be more bang for the buck so it's worth checking out at least.
Unless you're going for the 4090, the 4000 series is not worth it. A 3080 video card has almost the same amount of CUDA cores than any 4 000 video cards.
I'd like you to put his previous graphics card back in and re-render these scenes and tell us the time differences. THAT would be much more practical from a real-world perspective.
Honestly man, it’s always the same about new GPUs. Before everyone was hyped for the 3090. I can honestly say a 3090 is still absolutely butter smooth. For your current examples shown I cannot see that much of a performance increase but I appreciate your content man. 👍🏼
I was thinking the same. My 3090 gives the same viewport results but I'm sure the 4090 is going to kill in heavy final renders. Having 24Gb of ram is more important to me than the clock speed differences of the 3090 vs 4090.
@@Puckerization talking about games with DLSS support I’m on for it. For someone who is in the game with a 3090 already I really don’t think it’s worth to make any change. But I think it’s the only true way to compare - 3090 vs 4090.
This could be a more helpful video if it contained an outdoor scene with HDRI and some volumetrics instead of simple shapes with somewhat medium shading.
they area already out there, the performance increase seems to be quite huge, 75% or more, and that is sort of in line with gaming tests they have done with these, games can't utilize full potential of the 4090 yet, but the performance increase is quite dramatic there as well
I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but you got a 4090 and this is how you use it? The simplest scene ever with low render settings, the biggest waste of sponsored stuff that I've ever seen. You could at least have opened the classic class room scene and given us something that actually shows what that card can do.
Who would have thought that the best graphics card you can currently buy works well?! Crazy video dude! Totally insane that it performs as it should! Changed my life!
It's privileged to be sponsored by such a big company, congratulations mate, You are right person to do it. It's lovely to watch you tutorials. Regards. 😍
After a whole year past, whould you still recommend that graphics card to invest? or should I wait for new comers? I'm still no sure what to do, please give me some advice.
I love noise too. Off topic, I find that I do not like editing my fujifilm jpegs in photoshop because the grain pattern they baked into the in camera hardware is just so awesome. Love this review, I have been building a PC for blender and unreal engine after years of sticking to 2d art and photography, I think I might spring for a 4090. Thanks for focusing on real world creative output. I doubt I hardly game on the PC.
Would love to see how it handles more complex scenes. Not quite familiar with blender but I do use Octane render within C4D and love creating HEAVY volumetric scenes with vast amounts of scattered light, high quality hdri's etc. Most of the 3D models I use, if not all, run 4k (pbr) textures with very high polygon counts. I tend to use a lot of the kitbash3D assets as well. Currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X, 64gb's ram and a 3060ti and I'm actually surprised how well it still handles everything, mind you render times are a bit slow at times, although I usually keep my OOC Ram usage set to 32gbs for now. Definitely plan on getting a 4090 and maybe double up my ram as well.
God thank you for making this. I've been on the fence for a while. Can you do a follow up video in a month? I want to know if you still like it down the line
I can’t believe we finally arrived at the point of having rendering times as close as real time engines in video games, but with engines that use path tracing Aldo the price is not recommendable, at least we arrived at this point!
@@naupoleon3d Europe probably has import tarriffs/taxes, shipping charges, among other "fees", as well. But for the most part, in the US at least, 4090's should float around $1600, if Nvidia and other card manufactures manage to keep a curb on Crypto-miners sucking up all the cards they can. The reason 3090's were so hard to get and cost SO DAMNED MUCH. Locking the GPUs clock speed, and possibly limited how many yo can buy at one time should slow them down a let Gamers and 3d Artist have at them.
Those are way lighter scenes bruh, it's like having a flamethrower but using it to light up a cigarette. Based on your scenes you showcased it's not really impressive.. I would be expecting some heavy scenes that's actually put the card to the test...dense forestry scene, some demo scenes on blender site would work so..but an abstract donut and a couple of hexagons?..really?
1 bounce? really? that's a dirt cheap test. tbh this artsy rendering doesn't need much, but colors. could crank that way up tho for realistic scenes. spread some light. GI. bouncing refeflections. all that good stuff. you know?!? decent showcase tho. yo
Hey Ducky! Just found your video while browsing for 3D benchmarking for the 4090. Was wondering if you might have any interest in providing that hexagonal wave scene with the green lights as a benchmarkable file for everyone even if it's not ultra complex per se? I have a very thorough 3090 benchmark video on my channel despite being a small UA-camr and would gladly incorporate your bench into my workload results if I could. Thanks!
To me a heavy scene is anything over 10 million polygons. The RTX 3090 seems to be indiscernible from the RTX 4090 in these video demonstrations. For me it's relatively instantaneous about the same as EV rendering in cycles.
Low range starting point tbh. Most computers around that price range are built in mind as being a decent high-end gaming rig but should be able to handle small, basic scenes for 3D modeling, rendering, etc. Depending on your hardware specs and what you're planning on creating. It's always good to aim a bit higher. I've spent around $5k Canadian so far on my rig, which is around the mid range starting point for a decent 3D workstation and I'm still upgrading it with everything I've learned so far. I find it's best to aim for a 12 or even 16core cpu, 32-64gbs of ram and a really good gpu card, all running on a decent motherboard with proper cooling, power usage, nvme drive's, etc, especially If you're planning on using a gpu based render engine, always good to have a well built rig to handle it all.
These ain't no Blender scenes. I'd like to see this on one of my bloat-monster scenes with 4k textures and 3 sudiv'd Quixel scans with volumetric lights.
Please ducky, I have a question, have you had any issues with melting cables? Thanks in advance I want to get into animation and video editing, just sold my 3090 FE for $720 after ebay fees :( I kinda regret it due to the melting cable issue. I am also looking forward to get the FE version. Your feedback or anyone else's is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
That is awesome! the one thing that I like about 3000 series is that you can run them with nvlink(I think only 3090 and 3090ti). witch allows you to stack ram instead of run them in parallel. The option appear when you have 2 nvlinked cards in blender setting under the listed "Render devises".
my man.... 32 samples and 1 max bounces on 4090??????? i was rendering 14mil hair particle (grass) on 1070ti with much higher samples and bounces. Please show us something that excites us!
Im sorry dude but I am going to listen to the PC Building Channels with concerns over the internals, shotty fire hazard Wires and Pin's before I go listening to a Sponsored 3D Channel about how great it is at Rendering. I am sure its great at Rendering but i would not be promoting this Grenade of a Product right now even as a Sponsor
are you using rtx broadcast? when rendering or playing games me and my friends noticed the mic distorts when using it switching to mic only and not using rtx broadcast solves it
What were the specs of the overall machine you used? My machine hosting my 2080Tiwont be enough so I'm looking at a whole new machine for Blender. However, I'm not a PC builder so any tips you can share will be most welcome!
would of loved to see your viewport rendering settings increased, like get rid of noise threshhold and crank the samples waaaaay up let us see what the card can do in real time
That really depends on the type of render engine you plan on using. Octane, Vray, Redshift, Corona, Cycles to name a few, are all great for rendering. Personally, I prefer gpu based engines. Best to research everything you can on the type of hardware needed for rendering, depending on what it is you plan on creating. If you are thinking about creating huge projects, aim for spending quite a bit on a decent rig.
I think this might be enough even for an artist working for Marvel. He would play around with Thanos, then render the static image in about 30 seconds and export 24 fps animation to check out how he moves in 1 hour for a five second sequence.
I don't know why everyone is making a fuss about the price of these cards. A 3090ti was around $1,600 a few months ago. Basically it's two 3090tis. Twice the power, same price.
U really help me to do awesome things, I have a question do u recommend me to buy the real time materials pack, and if yes which of the 2 options the one of 40 or the one of 50 dollars?
Well, dont make excuses, if you see a problem then. Record with 100mb/s bitrate and render and upload with 4k resolution, then the video wont be a pixelated mess
If you’re looking for benchmarks check this out twitter.com/cggeeks/status/1579904086711095296?s=46&t=g5vIS9ieKAONWaKMog8nYA
Yes youre first creator to test 4090 for 3d rendering
Yes it's no where on UA-cam
And that child was Albert einstein
EposVox and LTT also tested it for rendering, in Blender too but mainly slides showing final render times and sample outputs etc, not actively showing viewports and such
It's honestly the only thing it should be used for. There's no reason to get one for playing video games.
@@blubase06 I’m getting one for minesweeper and roblox
Note to everyone here. Keep an eye out for the 3000 series cards to go down dramatically in price the coming weeks because of this launch. We all want the best but honestly, grabbing a solid 3000 series card might be more bang for the buck so it's worth checking out at least.
3090s are around 800ish on ebay, wouldnt go lower than that due to likely hood of scam.
Unless you're going for the 4090, the 4000 series is not worth it. A 3080 video card has almost the same amount of CUDA cores than any 4 000 video cards.
Yeah 3080/3090 are still an absolute monsters, especially in the viewport
I mean a lot of things would be better than my 1660 lol. It is sadly one of the things that is currently holding me back on a lot of projects.
I picked up a 3060 for about 275
I'd like you to put his previous graphics card back in and re-render these scenes and tell us the time differences. THAT would be much more practical from a real-world perspective.
Honestly man, it’s always the same about new GPUs. Before everyone was hyped for the 3090. I can honestly say a 3090 is still absolutely butter smooth. For your current examples shown I cannot see that much of a performance increase but I appreciate your content man. 👍🏼
yeah, for sure.
I was thinking the same. My 3090 gives the same viewport results but I'm sure the 4090 is going to kill in heavy final renders.
Having 24Gb of ram is more important to me than the clock speed differences of the 3090 vs 4090.
@@Puckerization talking about games with DLSS support I’m on for it. For someone who is in the game with a 3090 already I really don’t think it’s worth to make any change. But I think it’s the only true way to compare - 3090 vs 4090.
Yeah, I love my 3080ti but really want more memory so will be looking for the best price for a 3000 series.
Same. They render the same speed and that’s truly sad. I was expecting 15 sec renders from all the hype. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
I'll buying the 4090 exclusively for blender. Hope I get happy with the performance jump from the 1080ti.
You definitely will.
I will upgrade from a freaking 1050ti. Can't even imagine the difference
It's going to blow your socks off
How much RAM do you have?
Im upgrading from 2060. Can't wait to have that viewport performance!
This could be a more helpful video if it contained an outdoor scene with HDRI and some volumetrics instead of simple shapes with somewhat medium shading.
Surely you can crank up viewport samples to more than 32 now. Would like to see render time comparisons between 4090 and 3090.
they area already out there, the performance increase seems to be quite huge, 75% or more, and that is sort of in line with gaming tests they have done with these, games can't utilize full potential of the 4090 yet, but the performance increase is quite dramatic there as well
I'll plan to bench it with a lot of the stock benchmarkable scenes once I can snag a card.
I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but you got a 4090 and this is how you use it? The simplest scene ever with low render settings, the biggest waste of sponsored stuff that I've ever seen. You could at least have opened the classic class room scene and given us something that actually shows what that card can do.
This is the best free software Ive seen. Respect.
Would be nice to compare it screen to screen with 3090
I have been watching 3090 and 4090 videos and the 4090 seems to be handling things so much more crisply.
Definitely more to come, but LTT already did a comparison and it was basically 2x across the board on all scenes.
3090 rendered at the same speed. This is all smoke and mirrors. Look at blender render videos of the 3090.
The speed in which it renders a near-final-quality product on demand is just fucking nuts!
I want one !!
Seeing how fast it updates realtime (despite a relatively simple scene) is pretty impressive. Would love to see this with a much heavier scene.
Who would have thought that the best graphics card you can currently buy works well?! Crazy video dude! Totally insane that it performs as it should! Changed my life!
Ikr
4090 looks really good, but how different is this from a 3090 or 3080 variation
"NVIDIA was kind enough to sponsor this video"
thats all I needed to hear, no need to watch anymore.
I'm curious about the change in optix performance with dlss 3.0. Any obvious improvement in denoise speed?
It's interesting but we don't have any reference time. That would be maybe better to compare with your old GPU
The million dollar question is how RDNA3 will perform with Blender , hardware & software wise
It's privileged to be sponsored by such a big company, congratulations mate, You are right person to do it. It's lovely to watch you tutorials. Regards. 😍
You were so underwhelmed. Thank you!!
Given a 4090... I'm a little jealous. But if I am honest, you will do more with it than I would.
I've got 4070 ti. It's also great despite some hating reviews and I think it's a good purchase for many considering prices here in Australia.
light bounces set to 1? on rtx 4090?
After a whole year past, whould you still recommend that graphics card to invest? or should I wait for new comers? I'm still no sure what to do, please give me some advice.
personally, i feel that noise looks so much better than no noise.
I love noise too. Off topic, I find that I do not like editing my fujifilm jpegs in photoshop because the grain pattern they baked into the in camera hardware is just so awesome.
Love this review, I have been building a PC for blender and unreal engine after years of sticking to 2d art and photography, I think I might spring for a 4090. Thanks for focusing on real world creative output. I doubt I hardly game on the PC.
is it worth it for me to upgrade from my 3080ti? i also get basically realtime rendering in cycles.
Would love to see how it handles more complex scenes. Not quite familiar with blender but I do use Octane render within C4D and love creating HEAVY volumetric scenes with vast amounts of scattered light, high quality hdri's etc. Most of the 3D models I use, if not all, run 4k (pbr) textures with very high polygon counts. I tend to use a lot of the kitbash3D assets as well. Currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X, 64gb's ram and a 3060ti and I'm actually surprised how well it still handles everything, mind you render times are a bit slow at times, although I usually keep my OOC Ram usage set to 32gbs for now. Definitely plan on getting a 4090 and maybe double up my ram as well.
Hey Ducky, I’m just wondering, are you around socal?
God thank you for making this. I've been on the fence for a while. Can you do a follow up video in a month? I want to know if you still like it down the line
I can’t believe we finally arrived at the point of having rendering times as close as real time engines in video games, but with engines that use path tracing
Aldo the price is not recommendable, at least we arrived at this point!
the fnaf animator 3000
@@Chamsou_ lol heya buddy
What do you think about 4060 for rendering?
4090 gpu render is better and faster of a AMD 2000eu threadripper CPU? Blender is better than Corona for interior design? Thanks!
This is the news I was waiting for!
Hey Ducky. Neat video, thank you. Just out of curiosity: What's the rest of your setup here? CPU, RAM, storage. Thanks.
My Dream GPU ❤❤… I use GTX 1650 😅😅🙈🙈
:-) you are my Inspiration sir... Do u know that
I use gtx 1050
@@VerifiedSam ❤️❤️ Bro
Arre bhai same here 3090 mil jaye 4090 toh bohut zor ki baat hai
@@Kryptonian0024 bhai main to 3060 me Avatar Movie Render kr dunga ... hahaha
Did you upgrade your rig with a new ATX 3.0 PSU?
I recently went from a 650gpu to an rtx 2060. Yep..lovin it
Nvidia RTX 4090 is priced around $1600. I was expecting over $2000. I think I'll upgrade by the end of the year.
Taxes ma dude...at least in Europe is 2000+
@@naupoleon3d
Europe probably has import tarriffs/taxes, shipping charges, among other "fees", as well.
But for the most part, in the US at least, 4090's should float around $1600, if Nvidia and other card manufactures manage to keep a curb on Crypto-miners sucking up all the cards they can. The reason 3090's were so hard to get and cost SO DAMNED MUCH. Locking the GPUs clock speed, and possibly limited how many yo can buy at one time should slow them down a let Gamers and 3d Artist have at them.
A useful and competent explanation, so I tried it and it turned out that everything works fine. Special thanks to the author for such useful content.
i am just wondering, Nvidia do have a A series card for AI/Graphic render, so Gefore or A-series?
Hi , What's difference between Nvidia RTX 4090 performs ?
Those are way lighter scenes bruh, it's like having a flamethrower but using it to light up a cigarette. Based on your scenes you showcased it's not really impressive..
I would be expecting some heavy scenes that's actually put the card to the test...dense forestry scene, some demo scenes on blender site would work so..but an abstract donut and a couple of hexagons?..really?
what card did you have before? i was thinking to get the 3090 - now the 4080 might look good, but its 2x the price of a used 3090
1 bounce? really? that's a dirt cheap test. tbh this artsy rendering doesn't need much, but colors. could crank that way up tho for realistic scenes. spread some light. GI. bouncing refeflections. all that good stuff. you know?!? decent showcase tho. yo
Hey Ducky! Just found your video while browsing for 3D benchmarking for the 4090. Was wondering if you might have any interest in providing that hexagonal wave scene with the green lights as a benchmarkable file for everyone even if it's not ultra complex per se? I have a very thorough 3090 benchmark video on my channel despite being a small UA-camr and would gladly incorporate your bench into my workload results if I could. Thanks!
You deserve the best, thanks for teaching me this wonderful program.
To me a heavy scene is anything over 10 million polygons. The RTX 3090 seems to be indiscernible from the RTX 4090 in these video demonstrations. For me it's relatively instantaneous about the same as EV rendering in cycles.
i use 4070, should i upgrade or wait ?
What Pc would you recommend for 3d modelling and rendering in blender, my budget is around £1200 - £1500?
Low range starting point tbh. Most computers around that price range are built in mind as being a decent high-end gaming rig but should be able to handle small, basic scenes for 3D modeling, rendering, etc. Depending on your hardware specs and what you're planning on creating. It's always good to aim a bit higher. I've spent around $5k Canadian so far on my rig, which is around the mid range starting point for a decent 3D workstation and I'm still upgrading it with everything I've learned so far. I find it's best to aim for a 12 or even 16core cpu, 32-64gbs of ram and a really good gpu card, all running on a decent motherboard with proper cooling, power usage, nvme drive's, etc, especially If you're planning on using a gpu based render engine, always good to have a well built rig to handle it all.
The title of this video is like saying "the Ferrari is a fast car"
These ain't no Blender scenes. I'd like to see this on one of my bloat-monster scenes with 4k textures and 3 sudiv'd Quixel scans with volumetric lights.
Please ducky, I have a question, have you had any issues with melting cables? Thanks in advance I want to get into animation and video editing, just sold my 3090 FE for $720 after ebay fees :( I kinda regret it due to the melting cable issue. I am also looking forward to get the FE version. Your feedback or anyone else's is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
I have not had any melting cables
That is awesome! the one thing that I like about 3000 series is that you can run them with nvlink(I think only 3090 and 3090ti). witch allows you to stack ram instead of run them in parallel. The option appear when you have 2 nvlinked cards in blender setting under the listed "Render devises".
my man.... 32 samples and 1 max bounces on 4090??????? i was rendering 14mil hair particle (grass) on 1070ti with much higher samples and bounces.
Please show us something that excites us!
is it shipped with a free computer ?
how was the install? simple pug and play? hoping i can just do a simple swapout of my 2080 ti...
Congrats!!! Possibly EEVEE real time animations will benefit from it too!
Im sorry dude but I am going to listen to the PC Building Channels with concerns over the internals, shotty fire hazard Wires and Pin's before I go listening to a Sponsored 3D Channel about how great it is at Rendering. I am sure its great at Rendering but i would not be promoting this Grenade of a Product right now even as a Sponsor
are you using rtx broadcast? when rendering or playing games me and my friends noticed the mic distorts when using it switching to mic only and not using rtx broadcast solves it
Oh yeah, look at the new card spinning 3 cubes and 4 balls wow that's the speed!
did you have to upgrade everything else in your PC to handle having a 4090 though?
and build tracks from there and leave the rest for a later session. I did both but did the first way initially and it took a day to get through
congratulations, I would like to see a render of a large loaded scene with a lot of geometry that requires a lot of video memory
Could you do a benchmark with the standard blender scences like the BMW or the classroom scene?
What were the specs of the overall machine you used? My machine hosting my 2080Tiwont be enough so I'm looking at a whole new machine for Blender. However, I'm not a PC builder so any tips you can share will be most welcome!
this is wild
what processor do you have? Intel i9?
why didn't you increase the noise threshold??
would of loved to see your viewport rendering settings increased, like get rid of noise threshhold and crank the samples waaaaay up let us see what the card can do in real time
Why won't you do blender benchmark?
You should compare it to 3090ti or dual 3090ti. I'm upgrading my Blender machine.
@@choppiecortez8213 that is my plan
I was waiting for the video since I saw that story on Instagram.
I am planning to buy a new computer for 3D
Is it better to buy a faster card and a slower processor or vice versa ?
That really depends on the type of render engine you plan on using. Octane, Vray, Redshift, Corona, Cycles to name a few, are all great for rendering. Personally, I prefer gpu based engines. Best to research everything you can on the type of hardware needed for rendering, depending on what it is you plan on creating. If you are thinking about creating huge projects, aim for spending quite a bit on a decent rig.
4090 or 2x3090 with SLI?
Dont care about the power
I do particles render so need alot of VRAM
Yet cant afford quadro or A series yet
1600 USD and its the top model/gpu on the consumer market atm
Weirdly I havent seen any 4090 review with rendering benchmarks
This helped a lot thank you
How does it fare against a RTX A5500?
It would be a perfect replacement for my Kidneys
I think this might be enough even for an artist working for Marvel. He would play around with Thanos, then render the static image in about 30 seconds and export 24 fps animation to check out how he moves in 1 hour for a five second sequence.
can blender use system memory if running out of VRAM? if it cant use system , what will happen?
It is super fast 👍
awesome performance
You've really sold it, now to find a place to sell me one on launch 😂
basically you have 0 rendering limits you could make a Pixar animation if you wanted to😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much you really help me :)
Thx for this. Would love to have seen something with Unreal Engine 5.
I don't know why everyone is making a fuss about the price of these cards. A 3090ti was around $1,600 a few months ago. Basically it's two 3090tis. Twice the power, same price.
how would be rendering with rtx a4000
Could you upload some other benchmark please ? for example, bmw, classroom or other scene that we can compare the result of render speed to our GPU.
Thank you very much for your key......1000% work :)
U really help me to do awesome things, I have a question do u recommend me to buy the real time materials pack, and if yes which of the 2 options the one of 40 or the one of 50 dollars?
Love your work❤Learned a lot from you
Well, dont make excuses, if you see a problem then. Record with 100mb/s bitrate and render and upload with 4k resolution, then the video wont be a pixelated mess
how did he add that environment fog with subtle light ray? i can't find fog block in outliner
how much faster is Viewport-render compared to 3090?
What cpu were you using with this?
Ohhh how lucky are you!!