His control looked much better in his AAA starts. Gonna chalk it up to nerves, the atmosphere at the ballpark was incredible but probably intimidating. Bet you he’ll look sharper next start
I feel like those sliders should be classed as two different pitches. Totally different break and speed. He's even talked about being able to manipulate them and his AAA catcher said sometimes he'll call for a cutter even though Skenes doesn't throw one if he wants the shorter break slider.
i never played but love watching the game and jomboy's breakdowns, i can't fully grasp the difference in timing required by a hitter to clock a 101 mph pitch vs 85 mph i just know it's crazy
One of the best games I have ever been at. Wild from a rookie start to wild weather then a blown lead and a come back to a basically empty stadium was there for 9 hours worth every second.
Hey Jimmy, love the show. I have a video idea for you, because I am perplexed. Statcast dropped the bat velo, barrels, square ups yesterday. For the most part, it's what you expect, Shohei huge barrels, Soto is a stud, Luis Arraez squares everything, G swings out of his shoes every swing. One thing that does not add and I would love some insite on: Mookie Betts. He has a short, slow swing. The guys he is surrounded by on the grid are all middle ops players. He seems considerably better than his grouping, and I can't understand why? Is it the angle he hits at? What makes Mookie so much better than the other players that swing like him?
I did some digging because this comment intrigued me. It seems like the biggest thing is that Mookie's Launch Angle-Sweet spot percentage is pretty elite. His barrel% is actually middle of the road, but that's because barrel% takes into account exit velocity as well as launch angle, and his hard hit% is pretty middle of the road as well. It's not really surprising, tbh. He's what, 5-9, 175? He's just not going to swing as fast or hit the ball as hard as guys with 6+ inches and 50-75 pounds on him--mass*acceleration=force. But Mookie seems to hit the ball at a good angle when he does hit it, and he walks more and strikes out less than just about anyone. I don't think anyone would classify Mookie as a true power hitter, at least not like Ohtani, Judge, Stanton etc, who are capable of hitting 45+ HRs any given season, but more like a good, well rounded hitter, like an Altuve, J-Ram, etc, who have some pop, but also just hit the ball well and get on base a ton. And it seems like, after Trout, Mookie is the best we've seen this generation at just being an all around solid hitter. And TBH Mookie just might be slightly behind Trout because of their difference in height and weight.
i saw passan say he's most similar to degrom but honestly he looks like a dude that is gonna be a whole new guy that can't really be compared to anyone else, his size and velo is insane
The biggest thing I think is he has a chance to STAY as dominant as degrom was. Hes 6'4 but only weighed 180ish lbs at his peak, thats a pretty small frame for that much force relatively speaking. Whereas Skenes is built more like Chapman, whos also about 6'4 but has the back and shoulders of a powerlifter. And Skenes has a couple inches of height on them both too, which at least in theory should mean less effort for the same velocity, like how stanton and judges longass arms give them that massive leverage. I think his body is much more likely to withstand the stress of constant triple digits for a good number of seasons.
The control over the movement of his sliders was fantastic, plenty of long time MLBers who throw slidera and sweepers cant mix and tunnel them that easily. And this was his DEBUT. Id imagine it will only get better as he gets more experience
Deep dive idea/stat search help: what NL team this season has the most similar team stats as the DBacks did at this time last year? Same with AL and the Rangers. Curious to see if we’d consider this year’s teams as World Series possibles or if it’d be some crazy stretch. Thanks Jimmy!
It would be cool to take a look at the brewers Robert Gasser’s first start. He pitched a day or so before Skenes so it was kinda over shadowed, but he went 6 innings shut and looked gross!
that sweeping slider is crazy good. The splitter is also incredible, but I gotta give the amount of break on the slower slider an edge. I'm interested to see the 3+ pitches play off of each other ( splitter, fast slider, sweeping slider especially )
The biggest thing I think is he has a chance to STAY as dominant as Degrom was, with a similar kind of approach. Degrom is 6'4 but only weighed 180ish lbs at his peak, thats a pretty small frame for that much force relatively speaking. Whereas Skenes is built more like Chapman, whos also about 6'4 but has the back and shoulders of a powerlifter. And Skenes has a couple inches of height on them both too, which at least in theory should mean less effort for the same velocity, like how stanton and judges longass arms give them that massive leverage. I think his body is much more likely to withstand the stress of constant triple digits for a good number of seasons, though of course hell probably still need tommy john at some point, as is the MLB tradition..
Rangers fan here. Would love a start breakdown on Jack Leiter. He’s gotten lit up at the MLB level and I don’t really have a definitive answer as to why. The stuff looks good on paper
Man pitchers are so nasty today...It wasnt that long ago that throwing 100 mph was a huge deal and usually those guys would almost exclusively throw fastballs with the occasion offspeed and today so many can touch 100 mph with movement and good secondary stuff...I wonder how an average batter from the 1990s would fare against these pitchers today...
paul skenes getting all of the hate because his start wasn’t a cy young performance in his debut, i would like to see how the past 5 cy young winners in either division have done in their debut, and compare to see if there’s a trend there
Done on my phone so excuse the formatting. 2018-present CYA winners + Skenes: Names IP H R ER BB K Dec. Degrom 7.0 4 1 1 2 6 L Snell 5.0 2 1 1 1 6 ND Verlander 5.1 7 4 1 3 4 L Bauer 4.0 5 2 2 3 3 ND Bieber 5.2 8 4 4 1 6 ND Burnes¹ 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 SV Burnes² 5.0 6 4 4 1 12 ND Ray 5.1 5 1 1 1 5 W Alcántara³ 0.2 1 1 1 1 1 ND Alcántara⁴ 5.0 3 1 1 5 2 W Cole 6.1 7 2 2 0 2 W Skenes 4.0 6 3 3 2 7 ND ¹ Burnes MLB debut as RP (2017) ² Burnes first start (2018) ³ Alcántara MLB debut (RP) (2017) ⁴ Alcántara first start (2018) Funny both Alcántara and Burnes started as RP in 2017 and then made their first starts in 2018. I certainly wouldn't say its significantly worse than those, Beiber and Burnes (in his first START) gave up more runs. And 2 BB to 7 K isnt bad
If Skenes pitches like many expect him to, then the cheap a$$ organization that is the Pirates will be forced to trade him by the time he reaches his arbitration years, simply because they would be unable to afford him. That is why I, being a long-suffering Pirate fan can not get geeked up over his arrival
They could get a couple extra years with Skenes if they offer him a big contract in the next few years. They’d pay a discounted salary from what he’d get in free agency, It just means they’d be paying him a hell of a lot more during his arbitration years. If they wait till his free agency comes up then they’ll have to trade him to a big market.
Look what Atlanta did with Austin Riley like yeah he’s somewhat expensive but he would’ve cost another 100-200 million if they waited. Idk I hope you keep him imma cleveland fan so I know the feeling of watching star after star leave. Only Jose Ramirez has stayed
The thing that strikes me about him is that he just seems like an incredibly normal guy for a phenom pitcher. Feel like a lot of people in his position are either offputtingly competitive to the point that it becomes a toxic clubhouse presence or a bit neurodivergent or both
Theyve ALWAYS had sponsors and Livvy dunne is literally in a relationship with paul skenes with the video being about falling in love with paul skenes what arent you getting
BS Jimmy all this statistics are BS, is the character and the make up of a pitcher what counts. Forget all your numbers, there's different situations that will make throw this or that pitch please comeback to what baseball is really all about. Numbers, you can shove them
His control looked much better in his AAA starts. Gonna chalk it up to nerves, the atmosphere at the ballpark was incredible but probably intimidating.
Bet you he’ll look sharper next start
U were very correct
Can you do one of these breakdowns on Imanaga? I’d like to see that
Even though I’m a cubs fan, loved watching this sequence on Skenes. Great debut.
Your analysis is fantastic. 👍
I love (hate) his slider!
I feel like those sliders should be classed as two different pitches. Totally different break and speed. He's even talked about being able to manipulate them and his AAA catcher said sometimes he'll call for a cutter even though Skenes doesn't throw one if he wants the shorter break slider.
i never played but love watching the game and jomboy's breakdowns, i can't fully grasp the difference in timing required by a hitter to clock a 101 mph pitch vs 85 mph i just know it's crazy
One of the best games I have ever been at. Wild from a rookie start to wild weather then a blown lead and a come back to a basically empty stadium was there for 9 hours worth every second.
Hey Jimmy, love the show.
I have a video idea for you, because I am perplexed. Statcast dropped the bat velo, barrels, square ups yesterday.
For the most part, it's what you expect, Shohei huge barrels, Soto is a stud, Luis Arraez squares everything, G swings out of his shoes every swing.
One thing that does not add and I would love some insite on:
Mookie Betts. He has a short, slow swing. The guys he is surrounded by on the grid are all middle ops players. He seems considerably better than his grouping, and I can't understand why? Is it the angle he hits at? What makes Mookie so much better than the other players that swing like him?
I did some digging because this comment intrigued me. It seems like the biggest thing is that Mookie's Launch Angle-Sweet spot percentage is pretty elite. His barrel% is actually middle of the road, but that's because barrel% takes into account exit velocity as well as launch angle, and his hard hit% is pretty middle of the road as well.
It's not really surprising, tbh. He's what, 5-9, 175? He's just not going to swing as fast or hit the ball as hard as guys with 6+ inches and 50-75 pounds on him--mass*acceleration=force.
But Mookie seems to hit the ball at a good angle when he does hit it, and he walks more and strikes out less than just about anyone.
I don't think anyone would classify Mookie as a true power hitter, at least not like Ohtani, Judge, Stanton etc, who are capable of hitting 45+ HRs any given season, but more like a good, well rounded hitter, like an Altuve, J-Ram, etc, who have some pop, but also just hit the ball well and get on base a ton. And it seems like, after Trout, Mookie is the best we've seen this generation at just being an all around solid hitter. And TBH Mookie just might be slightly behind Trout because of their difference in height and weight.
we always love the (awesome overlays)
DO SKENES SECOND OUTING
Yes please please!!
i saw passan say he's most similar to degrom but honestly he looks like a dude that is gonna be a whole new guy that can't really be compared to anyone else, his size and velo is insane
The biggest thing I think is he has a chance to STAY as dominant as degrom was. Hes 6'4 but only weighed 180ish lbs at his peak, thats a pretty small frame for that much force relatively speaking.
Whereas Skenes is built more like Chapman, whos also about 6'4 but has the back and shoulders of a powerlifter. And Skenes has a couple inches of height on them both too, which at least in theory should mean less effort for the same velocity, like how stanton and judges longass arms give them that massive leverage.
I think his body is much more likely to withstand the stress of constant triple digits for a good number of seasons.
The control over the movement of his sliders was fantastic, plenty of long time MLBers who throw slidera and sweepers cant mix and tunnel them that easily. And this was his DEBUT. Id imagine it will only get better as he gets more experience
Suzuki got toasted in those first two at bats and it wasn't his fault at all. It will be my new example on why hitting is impossible.
Suzuki* also he bounced back against the bullpen
I just uawd 30 mins of my life to watch this thank you as a pittsburgh fan
Deep dive idea/stat search help: what NL team this season has the most similar team stats as the DBacks did at this time last year? Same with AL and the Rangers. Curious to see if we’d consider this year’s teams as World Series possibles or if it’d be some crazy stretch. Thanks Jimmy!
It would be cool to take a look at the brewers Robert Gasser’s first start. He pitched a day or so before Skenes so it was kinda over shadowed, but he went 6 innings shut and looked gross!
that sweeping slider is crazy good. The splitter is also incredible, but I gotta give the amount of break on the slower slider an edge. I'm interested to see the 3+ pitches play off of each other ( splitter, fast slider, sweeping slider especially )
One of the pitches they were calling a slinker, a mix of a slider and sinker. At least the announcers were talking about that.
Splinker - splitter and sinker. It’s Johan Duran’s pitch, Skenes added it this year. This is what Jimmy is calling the “split fastball” in the video.
Watched this live I was so pissed when the Pirates bullpen proceeded to walk like 6 straight batters after to give Skenes those 2 extra earned runs 🤬
Skenes was on the McAfee Show today and said he throws a Gyro Slider and a Sweeper.
I like the split first pitch and the bullet slider. Allows you him to go faster or slower with the next pitch
loved this breakdown
The biggest thing I think is he has a chance to STAY as dominant as Degrom was, with a similar kind of approach. Degrom is 6'4 but only weighed 180ish lbs at his peak, thats a pretty small frame for that much force relatively speaking.
Whereas Skenes is built more like Chapman, whos also about 6'4 but has the back and shoulders of a powerlifter. And Skenes has a couple inches of height on them both too, which at least in theory should mean less effort for the same velocity, like how stanton and judges longass arms give them that massive leverage.
I think his body is much more likely to withstand the stress of constant triple digits for a good number of seasons, though of course hell probably still need tommy john at some point, as is the MLB tradition..
Rangers fan here. Would love a start breakdown on Jack Leiter. He’s gotten lit up at the MLB level and I don’t really have a definitive answer as to why. The stuff looks good on paper
He's great and also will inevitably require a TJ in the not so distant future 👎
That slider looks like a blitzball pitch
He has a similar herky-jerky 3/4 delivery to Sale just from the other side of the mound
This just reminded me of Mark Prior’s ultra hyped start for the Cubs vs the Pirates. Prior was the one. Sad.
Suggestion: A dive into the Mariners recent historic starting pitching run.
Need a deep dive into which catchers frame strikes best/worst
I love the kid and the fact he's got the stuff and he is also a pitcher.... Hate that he is in the central tho
If he gets elite control with his 4 seam he’ll win cy youngs
He also has a 2 seam movement as well cuz of his release spot it moves more up and to the right
Man pitchers are so nasty today...It wasnt that long ago that throwing 100 mph was a huge deal and usually those guys would almost exclusively throw fastballs with the occasion offspeed and today so many can touch 100 mph with movement and good secondary stuff...I wonder how an average batter from the 1990s would fare against these pitchers today...
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Fascinating that he only threw 1 split-finger on 2 strike counts. It's considered a good strikeout pitch.
Jimmy, find out what tell the Twins have on Gausman? They will not swing at his splitter.
Sick🤘🤙
paul skenes getting all of the hate because his start wasn’t a cy young performance in his debut, i would like to see how the past 5 cy young winners in either division have done in their debut, and compare to see if there’s a trend there
Done on my phone so excuse the formatting. 2018-present CYA winners + Skenes:
Names IP H R ER BB K Dec.
Degrom 7.0 4 1 1 2 6 L
Snell 5.0 2 1 1 1 6 ND
Verlander 5.1 7 4 1 3 4 L
Bauer 4.0 5 2 2 3 3 ND
Bieber 5.2 8 4 4 1 6 ND
Burnes¹ 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 SV
Burnes² 5.0 6 4 4 1 12 ND
Ray 5.1 5 1 1 1 5 W Alcántara³ 0.2 1 1 1 1 1 ND
Alcántara⁴ 5.0 3 1 1 5 2 W
Cole 6.1 7 2 2 0 2 W
Skenes 4.0 6 3 3 2 7 ND
¹ Burnes MLB debut as RP (2017)
² Burnes first start (2018)
³ Alcántara MLB debut (RP) (2017)
⁴ Alcántara first start (2018)
Funny both Alcántara and Burnes started as RP in 2017 and then made their first starts in 2018.
I certainly wouldn't say its significantly worse than those, Beiber and Burnes (in his first START) gave up more runs. And 2 BB to 7 K isnt bad
Would that "bullet" slider Skenes threw not just be considered a cutter?
So, Skene's got a slider, curve, changeup, four-seam and a pitch he calls a 'splinker.' But yeah, he was yanking his fastball the whole game.
Don’t mess with my halos in the 6th inning 😤
If Skenes pitches like many expect him to, then the cheap a$$ organization that is the Pirates will be forced to trade him by the time he reaches his arbitration years, simply because they would be unable to afford him. That is why I, being a long-suffering Pirate fan can not get geeked up over his arrival
They could get a couple extra years with Skenes if they offer him a big contract in the next few years. They’d pay a discounted salary from what he’d get in free agency, It just means they’d be paying him a hell of a lot more during his arbitration years. If they wait till his free agency comes up then they’ll have to trade him to a big market.
Look what Atlanta did with Austin Riley like yeah he’s somewhat expensive but he would’ve cost another 100-200 million if they waited. Idk I hope you keep him imma cleveland fan so I know the feeling of watching star after star leave. Only Jose Ramirez has stayed
Get ready Yankees fans…we’ll be sending him to you in 3 years
The catcher is framing these terribly, even the down the middle throws he makes them look like he's painting
Their are people listening to a visual breakdown and not watching it? Why? 🤨
They call the one pitch a splunker
It's funny to think about Skenes bending to kiss and rub mustaches with Jomboy
Check out the Blanco no-no. See if he was cheating
Do this for Brandon phfaat
Waiting for him to force himself out of Pittsburgh.
bro is not single
I mean yea he can pitch but why does every video thumbnail feature his GF 😂
Can't wait to see him in pinstripes in four years.
The thing that strikes me about him is that he just seems like an incredibly normal guy for a phenom pitcher. Feel like a lot of people in his position are either offputtingly competitive to the point that it becomes a toxic clubhouse presence or a bit neurodivergent or both
His GF being interviewed was wack, I hate when sports focus on the famous wives or GF’s. I want sports bro!! Even my girl hates it
Are you sure that you and Jolly aren’t related? You sometimes look almost identical
Paul Skenes 0 professional wins 🤣🤣
perpetual DK ads and Livvy Dunne thumbnail what's going on guyyyys
What's wrong with ads? We get this for free, just skip past them if it bugs u that much.
Theyve ALWAYS had sponsors and Livvy dunne is literally in a relationship with paul skenes with the video being about falling in love with paul skenes what arent you getting
We get this content for free because of those ads. Either this or a subscription model. Figure it out
Selling out
How can you complain about more of Livvy Dunne??
BS Jimmy all this statistics are BS, is the character and the make up of a pitcher what counts. Forget all your numbers, there's different situations that will make throw this or that pitch please comeback to what baseball is really all about. Numbers, you can shove them