@@RealBrizz You definitely don’t have to love it but considering it’s ranked top 3 in the world by pretty much everyone it’d be pretty hilarious to say it’s bad
Vibes alone? Christopher Morel. No comparison. He’s batting.200 and is a player without a position, but he’s a fantastic dude who’s pathologically positive
The season is NOT too long. Working people show up to work roughly 65% of the days of a year. Players have roughly the same time obligation considering spring training and the regular season but get paid millions of dollars to literally play a game as a career.
My dude the season is way too long as a FAN. Just draaaaaags out with too many games that mean nothing but still charge just as much for them and have people get hurt for them. They’ve adjusted for the length of games but now need to look at length of season.
@@darthquaider54 I'll just never understand this type of "fan"...do you really even like the sport? "I love baseball...but I want to change everything about it."
@@branden3785 you spending the season with your eyes glued to every inning of the 162 games? No? Interesting, I guess you’re shortening the season for yourself and are no baseball fan so don’t comment here anymore.
@@darthquaider54that’s a wildly silly take on what that dude said. Wanting less games is way different than only being able to watch “x” amount of games. I watch all 162 games the Mets play every year. Not all live because of life but still replays, condensed games on MLB at bat, ect. You just seem like one of those people who love the pitch clock and the ghost runner and all the other stupid rule changes that have been done to make people with the attention span of a dead nat like baseball. No one needs your kinda fan here bubba.
@@Jrseydevil the ghost Runner is stupid. You shouldn’t hand someone that game-deciding run that could alter a playoff spot. So right there your baseless assumptions are probably wrong. Wanting fewer games that are more competitive where players play every day isn’t being against this sport. It’s wanting the sport to matter more consistently. And crappy attitudes like yours are why the game struggles to grow.
8 players say they don't want to play for the Mets. "no one wants to play for the Mets" - Jomboy. One player says no one want to play for the Yankees "That's a sour grapes bullshit guy, doesn't matter" - Jomboy.
Why would you scoff at the people saying analytics hurt their career? If you’re a dead pull hitter and everyone started shifting on you, it hurt your career. If you had ok surface stats, but analytics showed you were super lucky and were actually really bad, then analytics hurt your career. I could see 4% of players saying that.
Agreed. There's also a lot of players whose skill set was devalued after the analytics revolution, like contact hitters who don't walk a lot, or catchers who can throw out baserunners but are mediocre at framing.
20:30 I’m from the west coast so I’ve only been to Boston once. My grandpa grew up in the NE and we visited in 2005ish. Went to a game at Fenway. White Sox hit a ball into the gap and Damon chased after it. Threw it in, of course his arm was terrible. Swear to God the lady in front of us yelled, in her Mass accent “what kind of Sally throw was that?!?” Red Sox came from behind to win, Papi hit 2 HRs, we sang Sweet Caroline, it was a perfect day.
One thing on five tool players. I always thought of the running tool as flawed because it is just thinking about speed. To me, a run tool is about how good you are on the bases, regardless of speed. Look at a guy like Aaron Judge, who is low in sprint speed, but rarely makes base running mistakes, steals bases once in a while and doesn't often get caught, reads the ball well and gets good jumps to take an extra base, he runs hard out of the box and takes good turns. To me, he's a five tool player, but to almost everyone else he's a 4 tool. But wouldn't you rather have Judge on the bases in a big spot than the much speedier Gleyber Torres?
I always thought tools were about raw talent. Like, you can get a 70 in arm even if you have a bad habit of never hitting the cutoff man as an OF or are occasionally off target as an IF.
I will state this, as someone who works at a MLB Stadium - I wouldn't be too happy to have the season shorter. Going down from 162 to say - 150 - means 12 less games. That's 6 less home games or one homestand - that's one less paycheck overall from every stadium worker in MLB (a loss of anywhere from $500 to $2500 USD depending on job, department, and location.) Shortening the season does have knock down effects for a LOT of people, not just the players and owners. I won't state how much I personally would lose having one less homestand (I don't think my employer would like that), but it would affect things like off-season unemployment benefits from State Governments & State-mandated Health Care (AKA Obamacare). I would think there would be pushback not just from Owners, but possibly from Unions associated with Stadium Workers toward shortening the season without some type of financial stipulation to dampen the loss of a paycheck.
Who the fuck thinks Yamamoto, Alvarez, Clase, Soto, Strider or Cole are overrated? How is Rendon overrated? He's barely played the last 4 years and everyone knows he's a shell of his prime self. How is Manoah overrated? Nobody really thinks highly of him right now since his massive struggles last year.
Love this Jimmy. Two things: The Connor Joe story gets even more sad when you realize he's been playing a lot of first base, what a use of that one tool. Second: Webb also benefits from having the top rated pitch framer behind the plate in Patrick Bailey, I feel like that's such a part of it because PB steals so many strikes
I did the math once and it's something like if they went to ~130 games, everyone could get 2 days/week off. Imagine how much better that would be for players' health, especially pitchers
The one about not going to the Rockies shocked me a little bit. Stone Age or not, hitting and pitching in thin air half the season has to be a decent stat boost. And Denver can be a pretty fun city, the few times I have been there.
They could go back to 154 games, which is what it was before 1961 (AL) or 1962 (NL). Then you could make the wildcard series best of 5 and the division series best of 7.
“Tim Anderson is outspoken, Donaldson…voted for him” is too funny lmao. Also, I say it anytime it comes up, I truly believe I can throw a ball farther than Johnny Damon, and I’m sure you could too.
11:55 he knows that he doesn’t want to play for the Yankees but is curious about playing in that rivalry. But knowing what he knows, it’s overrated. If he had to pick though, he’d pick the Sox.
I get Freddie is stats but he’s also a great vibes player.. you couldn’t tell if he was batting .200 for a month or .400 he was just as excited for his teammates and giving hugs either way.
The hate on Jazz Chisholm Jr. is always so weird to me. Like, nobody is saying that he's the best player in the league. WHO is overrating him? The year he made the cover of MLB The Show I think he was like Top 15-20 in Adjusted OPS+ before he got injured. So it wasnt like they put a below average player on the cover. Grown men getting mad about a cover of a video game is absurd. Who tf cares? Something tells me it aint just about the cover though....
I think Jazz getting MLB the show 23 cover hurt him. He at the time had 178 career hits in 3 years and got on the cover when people like Trout has never been on the cover.
So if 25 teams were listed as teams at least one player said they'd like to sign with if roster/salary/taxes etc were taken out of the equation, which were the 5 teams not a single player said they'd want to play for?
"K" absolutely SMOKES that "Latina Vibes" boots LMAO. There's definitely a ton of men that would pick her cuz they have a preference for Latinas/more plump women, but "objectively.." she's like a solid 6.5. Most of 'em are between a Hard 5-6 to a Soft 7. K & Asian girl are by far the hottest/prettiest.
As a football fan, I was surprised to see how almost none of them wanted to implement it to MLB. I mean I guess it just means the possibility of more money for yhem this way.
I think the question about the season too long was poor journalism. I don’t see why they included the part “Anthony Rendón was right…” - as I think that is clearly going to sway some answers. It kind of lumps the question in with all the other sentiments Rendón expressed and we may not be getting a straight answer. Why not just ask the question: “do you think the season is too long?”
It’s called Elemental. It’s based on the director’s life with his parents immigrating to the USA from Korea and settling into the Bronx. The movie doesn’t take place in the Bronx though, it’s called Element City.
Jimmy misunderstood the “vibes” question. They didn’t say put stats aside. They meant pick someone you like not from personal experience but rather at a distance. It explained above the black box.
You misunderstand, because statistics are just facts while vibes are a feeling. It shouldn't need to be said to not factor in stats, because stats are not relevant in regards to vibes.
have we considered that the guys who have the best vibes are that way because they’re having success and it’s much easier for them to have fun than a guy struggling to keep his job. idk just a thought they might have been honest about that part
On the vibes question, I would have said Anthony Rizzo, and he didn't even get one vote. Freddie Freeman would be my second choice, and he at least got one.
I don’t want less games. The players can sack up they’re not playing in the gulags here. They travel and live in luxury I get that it’s hard and taxing, but let them work at an Amazon center for a few days they won’t get any days off there I’m sure they’ll change their minds
46% of 102 so like... 60 people...
Oh Jimmy, no no no
not a math show
@@jimmyk4445 I mean, it's a baseball show, so it's gotta be a little mathy
Made me laugh out loud 😂
@@jimmyk4445lol! But it’s baseball. A sport that thrives on math and percentages 🤡
You can use your fingers, James!
Jimmy Math is wild.
Jimmy math is the best 😁
😆😆💯
Gotta love Americas education system :)
@@RealBrizz You definitely don’t have to love it but considering it’s ranked top 3 in the world by pretty much everyone it’d be pretty hilarious to say it’s bad
Had to stop just to say or agree with a comment.. good lord...
The worst part of Conner Joe being a throw only guy is that he's a primary 1st baseman.... Like he doesn't even use his one tool.
Shoutout to whoever put Greinke on the vibes poll question.
Jimmy kinda unhinged here and I love it
I don’t agree on decreasing the amount of games, I do like the idea of starting a week early so that teams get some more days off throughout the year.
Profar is THE vibes guy leads in VAR = Vibes Above Replacement
Profar seems like hed have -VAR. Dude always looks miserable lol
@@noahg505 Dude's always smiling like a kid on the sandlot *shrug
Not the same without taking a sip of your coffee first
Coffee heads are seething
Harper said he wants 170+ games per season, he may be the only truthful one
Based
Because he’s a warrior
Vlad Jr 100% was the one guy who said a bunch of Yankees were overrated.
Manaoh was definitely the guy who voted for Cole as most overrated.
The comment about Soto voting for Gleyber was savage lmaoo
Jimmy, just a shoutout to the consistency and growth, they've directly led to your rise and sustained success. Really cool to see as a day 1.
The setup is legit. Thanks for the hard work bro
Vibes alone? Christopher Morel. No comparison. He’s batting.200 and is a player without a position, but he’s a fantastic dude who’s pathologically positive
YEP!
We need a dedicated GUTS scorekeeper after seeing this quick math lol.
The season is NOT too long. Working people show up to work roughly 65% of the days of a year. Players have roughly the same time obligation considering spring training and the regular season but get paid millions of dollars to literally play a game as a career.
My dude the season is way too long as a FAN. Just draaaaaags out with too many games that mean nothing but still charge just as much for them and have people get hurt for them. They’ve adjusted for the length of games but now need to look at length of season.
@@darthquaider54 I'll just never understand this type of "fan"...do you really even like the sport? "I love baseball...but I want to change everything about it."
@@branden3785 you spending the season with your eyes glued to every inning of the 162 games? No? Interesting, I guess you’re shortening the season for yourself and are no baseball fan so don’t comment here anymore.
@@darthquaider54that’s a wildly silly take on what that dude said. Wanting less games is way different than only being able to watch “x” amount of games. I watch all 162 games the Mets play every year. Not all live because of life but still replays, condensed games on MLB at bat, ect.
You just seem like one of those people who love the pitch clock and the ghost runner and all the other stupid rule changes that have been done to make people with the attention span of a dead nat like baseball. No one needs your kinda fan here bubba.
@@Jrseydevil the ghost Runner is stupid. You shouldn’t hand someone that game-deciding run that could alter a playoff spot. So right there your baseless assumptions are probably wrong.
Wanting fewer games that are more competitive where players play every day isn’t being against this sport. It’s wanting the sport to matter more consistently. And crappy attitudes like yours are why the game struggles to grow.
8 players say they don't want to play for the Mets. "no one wants to play for the Mets" - Jomboy. One player says no one want to play for the Yankees "That's a sour grapes bullshit guy, doesn't matter" - Jomboy.
Well it is sour grapes when there's a 99.99% chance it comes from the bitch ass Blue Jays.
BRANDON MARSH MENTIONED
LFG!!!!!!
Why would you scoff at the people saying analytics hurt their career? If you’re a dead pull hitter and everyone started shifting on you, it hurt your career. If you had ok surface stats, but analytics showed you were super lucky and were actually really bad, then analytics hurt your career. I could see 4% of players saying that.
I actually thought that was a good question as well!
Agreed. There's also a lot of players whose skill set was devalued after the analytics revolution, like contact hitters who don't walk a lot, or catchers who can throw out baserunners but are mediocre at framing.
The OFF season is too long. give me 200 games.
Xander Bogarts must have used the money he gets with his albatross contract to pay off the players to not put him on the overrated list.
He’s so boring everyone forgot about him
Jimmy is hilarious. I’m rolling over the idea of Nola voting for Wheeler
They didn't used to let players vote for teammates on any of these. Has that changed, or did Jimmy miss that?
From a Northeast Ohio Guy - The fact the guardians werent on any of those lists is the most Cleveland thing Ive ever seen xd
20:30
I’m from the west coast so I’ve only been to Boston once. My grandpa grew up in the NE and we visited in 2005ish. Went to a game at Fenway. White Sox hit a ball into the gap and Damon chased after it. Threw it in, of course his arm was terrible.
Swear to God the lady in front of us yelled, in her Mass accent “what kind of Sally throw was that?!?”
Red Sox came from behind to win, Papi hit 2 HRs, we sang Sweet Caroline, it was a perfect day.
One thing on five tool players. I always thought of the running tool as flawed because it is just thinking about speed. To me, a run tool is about how good you are on the bases, regardless of speed. Look at a guy like Aaron Judge, who is low in sprint speed, but rarely makes base running mistakes, steals bases once in a while and doesn't often get caught, reads the ball well and gets good jumps to take an extra base, he runs hard out of the box and takes good turns. To me, he's a five tool player, but to almost everyone else he's a 4 tool. But wouldn't you rather have Judge on the bases in a big spot than the much speedier Gleyber Torres?
I always thought tools were about raw talent. Like, you can get a 70 in arm even if you have a bad habit of never hitting the cutoff man as an OF or are occasionally off target as an IF.
The season is long, but I love it.
Records are a big reason I don't see the regular season changing
9:28 back in the day with frequent weekend doubleheaders, Monday was almost a designated day off for almost the whole league
10:01 Red Sox clearly and defo not the Yankees
5:15 whenever plouffe says how nice a player is or how "they're a vibes guy"
I will state this, as someone who works at a MLB Stadium - I wouldn't be too happy to have the season shorter. Going down from 162 to say - 150 - means 12 less games. That's 6 less home games or one homestand - that's one less paycheck overall from every stadium worker in MLB (a loss of anywhere from $500 to $2500 USD depending on job, department, and location.) Shortening the season does have knock down effects for a LOT of people, not just the players and owners. I won't state how much I personally would lose having one less homestand (I don't think my employer would like that), but it would affect things like off-season unemployment benefits from State Governments & State-mandated Health Care (AKA Obamacare).
I would think there would be pushback not just from Owners, but possibly from Unions associated with Stadium Workers toward shortening the season without some type of financial stipulation to dampen the loss of a paycheck.
Proud of you Jimmy. Keep on excelling.
Who the fuck thinks Yamamoto, Alvarez, Clase, Soto, Strider or Cole are overrated? How is Rendon overrated? He's barely played the last 4 years and everyone knows he's a shell of his prime self. How is Manoah overrated? Nobody really thinks highly of him right now since his massive struggles last year.
Overrated = popular players, or former popular players
It’s astounding how bad jimmys math is lmao, glad to see the results on some of these. Seeing Jeff as the only 0 tool guy makes too much sense
Love this Jimmy.
Two things: The Connor Joe story gets even more sad when you realize he's been playing a lot of first base, what a use of that one tool.
Second: Webb also benefits from having the top rated pitch framer behind the plate in Patrick Bailey, I feel like that's such a part of it because PB steals so many strikes
So now that jimmies 3 things is obviously a contractual obligation, how long until he gets sick of doing it?
I did the math once and it's something like if they went to ~130 games, everyone could get 2 days/week off. Imagine how much better that would be for players' health, especially pitchers
The one about not going to the Rockies shocked me a little bit. Stone Age or not, hitting and pitching in thin air half the season has to be a decent stat boost. And Denver can be a pretty fun city, the few times I have been there.
They could go back to 154 games, which is what it was before 1961 (AL) or 1962 (NL). Then you could make the wildcard series best of 5 and the division series best of 7.
I NEED a break down on Luke Raley's two out game trying rbi bunt!
How did Austin Hedges not win the vibes question
Because there is Marsh and Stubbs in the league
“Tim Anderson is outspoken, Donaldson…voted for him” is too funny lmao.
Also, I say it anytime it comes up, I truly believe I can throw a ball farther than Johnny Damon, and I’m sure you could too.
Ohtani = $700 million dollar DH 👍 "catch the excitement!"
idk what's worse, Jimmy's math or Jimmy's takes
Jahmai Jones is the best! I remember getting in trouble with him at the ballpark growing up.
Jomboy math is A++
The Texas league plays 6 days in a row against the same team and then have Monday off and do it again.
So apparently clubhouse is not a thing for you
mad the yankees weren’t first lol “i can’t take this seriously”
Where do you watch the T20 matches?
If the dodgers were sold, I’m sure the purchase price would be adjusted for the Ohtani contract
There's another category of people (like me) who say "the season is *CRAZY* long ...... and I f*cking love it"
11:55 he knows that he doesn’t want to play for the Yankees but is curious about playing in that rivalry. But knowing what he knows, it’s overrated. If he had to pick though, he’d pick the Sox.
I see you Arcia, voting Harper most overrated 🤡
How does Albies not even get mentioned for "vibes"?
I love that Connor Joe's one tool is throwing and he's been playing 1st base 😂😂😂
8:20 it is long but I like it
I get Freddie is stats but he’s also a great vibes player.. you couldn’t tell if he was batting .200 for a month or .400 he was just as excited for his teammates and giving hugs either way.
I like how even the person who made the graphs showing percentages ,gave up halfway through.
I'd never say it's too long because I love it and want more.
“11:55” what’s this grand secret 😂
Jimmy you're great at what you do and this show was very entertaining, but please stop trying to do math
The hate on Jazz Chisholm Jr. is always so weird to me. Like, nobody is saying that he's the best player in the league. WHO is overrating him?
The year he made the cover of MLB The Show I think he was like Top 15-20 in Adjusted OPS+ before he got injured. So it wasnt like they put a below average player on the cover. Grown men getting mad about a cover of a video game is absurd. Who tf cares?
Something tells me it aint just about the cover though....
Because it was multiple choice, the "worst teams" couldn't be percentage. That said, I agree they should have just shown the count for each poll.
Jimmy was looking at those numbers like they were MPH
Based on the Padres Athletics game (6/11), you should look at games that have started and ended with a home run
How the heck does Austin Hedges not win vibes guy???
I think Jazz getting MLB the show 23 cover hurt him. He at the time had 178 career hits in 3 years and got on the cover when people like Trout has never been on the cover.
11:40 Anthopoulos Island
So if 25 teams were listed as teams at least one player said they'd like to sign with if roster/salary/taxes etc were taken out of the equation, which were the 5 teams not a single player said they'd want to play for?
Harsh Media coverage is my guess about what that player knew
Vibes: Bryce Harper
im seriously surprised ozzie albies didnt receive a vote for vibes
He was in a Batboy Baseball post on Instagram and he seems like a cool guy.
Mike Trout is the most hyped player ever that’s accomplished nothing in his professional career
Define “nothing”?
"K" absolutely SMOKES that "Latina Vibes" boots LMAO.
There's definitely a ton of men that would pick her cuz they have a preference for Latinas/more plump women, but "objectively.." she's like a solid 6.5. Most of 'em are between a Hard 5-6 to a Soft 7.
K & Asian girl are by far the hottest/prettiest.
As a football fan, I was surprised to see how almost none of them wanted to implement it to MLB. I mean I guess it just means the possibility of more money for yhem this way.
68% of 100. We'll get you that number in a minute.😂😂😂
I think the question about the season too long was poor journalism. I don’t see why they included the part “Anthony Rendón was right…” - as I think that is clearly going to sway some answers. It kind of lumps the question in with all the other sentiments Rendón expressed and we may not be getting a straight answer. Why not just ask the question: “do you think the season is too long?”
Tbh Jazz is the most popular for young fans. Sounds like some haters
lol anyone know the “Korean and Dominicans living in the Bronx” movie Jim was referring to?
It’s called Elemental. It’s based on the director’s life with his parents immigrating to the USA from Korea and settling into the Bronx. The movie doesn’t take place in the Bronx though, it’s called Element City.
Jimmy misunderstood the “vibes” question. They didn’t say put stats aside. They meant pick someone you like not from personal experience but rather at a distance. It explained above the black box.
You misunderstand, because statistics are just facts while vibes are a feeling. It shouldn't need to be said to not factor in stats, because stats are not relevant in regards to vibes.
@@snerdterguson sorry, you’re right. They listed three different rationales. It literally says stats in the first one.🤦🏻♂️
"Knowing what I know" means the reasons why he won't sign with the Yankees or Red Sox. He's heard bad things about those organizations.
have we considered that the guys who have the best vibes are that way because they’re having success and it’s much easier for them to have fun than a guy struggling to keep his job. idk just a thought they might have been honest about that part
10:51 he goes out of his way to
Not mention the mariners
Jimmy they did number of answers instead of percentage for the bad rep orgs question because players could choose one or more answers for that one
why tf ozzie not in vibes lol
Saying rays will get injured like the Yankees can’t keep Stanton and other players healthy 💀
If they do shorten the season, it’ll be nearly impossible to break records
It's always hard to comprehend why anybody would ever degrade himself enough to play for the Wankees.
Go go USA! Shock and awe 🤷♂️
This is hilarious
Would the players agree to a comparable reduction in pay for a shorter season?
Not in a million years lol
Eugenio Suarez should be on vibes. I loved when he was on the Mariners.
Vibes are the X factor
On the vibes question, I would have said Anthony Rizzo, and he didn't even get one vote. Freddie Freeman would be my second choice, and he at least got one.
Jimmy your Monday NL off / Thursday AL off would work great, but how would you do interleague in that setup?
Just an oversight. He doesn’t put any thought into his videos anymore. Just hits record and rambles.
This show has always been hit record and ramble. Interlegaue would be on the weekends? Doesn’t seem that hard
@@TalkinBaseball Weekend interleague is very fun!
All those off days would be used up for rain make up games
Jomboy: Nobody wants to go to the Mets.
Article: “Nobody wants to play for the Yankees.”
At least Jazz actually plays baseball on a regular basis. Rendon hasn’t compiled 1 full season if you include the last 4 years.
Jazz Chisholm wrote 😂😂😂
I don’t want less games. The players can sack up they’re not playing in the gulags here. They travel and live in luxury I get that it’s hard and taxing, but let them work at an Amazon center for a few days they won’t get any days off there I’m sure they’ll change their minds
Beating the math pod allegations early in this one