How to Skip the CFAT (Canadian Forces Aptitude Test) with the Expedited Application Trial
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:25 Expedited Application Trial
1:31 Why Skip the CFAT?
3:31 Eligibility Criteria
8:49 Answering your questions
Aptitude...not required. Dress and deportment...not required...anxiety from the thought of being tested on something? No problem, you'll make a great warfighter...
You mean great cannon fodder...
It is unfortunate that the new change does not apply to Reserve Applicants too.
Your videos are awesome and very informative. I love your setup also. I passed my physical, CFAT, medical, and interview, but my file has been showing in final processing for a long time now. I hope the background checks don't take too long I'd like to get started very soon!
Yes it is probably security clearance holding up your application. Good luck and stick with it! They are backed up but still being processed and should come through eventually.
Are you a young straight white male, if so that's why.
Hope your background check come through soon but you may wait a long time to get a place on BMQ too...
No more CFAT just basic 2 week evaluation would make a lot of sense actually.
Great video!
Thank you!! That means a lot coming from the GOAT CAF UA-camr.
@@PrairieSailor I’m a boomer 😳 what’s GOAT? Lol
@_Matsimus_ I hope you are not trolling me, buts it’s Greatest of all Time.
@@PrairieSailorMatsimus acting sus haha @PrairieSailor keep the content coming. You've been AWOL for a min
They ask for your high school diploma equivalency from your foreign country to Canada.
Most of our countries have a dated system. It will require a trip back home, ($$$) then once back in canada, pay ($$) a recognized agency to then have your equivalency converted to canadian standards.
so there are still roadblocks.
You have people who have worked in canada as managers and have different valid certifications in different fields but don't have their high school transcripts. There's limited flexibility given to the recruiter.
This is a huge help since I failed my cfat because I graduated 6 years ago so I haven't done the math in 6 years and for the life of me cant seem to remember even with a full year of studying done on my own. Kinda lost hope of being able to join but since this the expedited application trial is happening I'm hopeful I can get in its been a Childhood dream to become a combat engineer as i was told stories about my great grandfather who was a combat engineer in ww2 and unfortunately died in the battle of Kursk
If you cannot pass a simple aptitude test, it's not a math issue,
You could have prepared for the test as they give you plenty of resources to help.
Unlike you wanted to be a trade that you're score precludes you from even then they should have offered options that fit your score.
Or if you are a white straight male they are not wanted. And they will just use whatever reason to get rid of you.
@@Fraser_Noble it's a math issue I was told directly I failed the math and the orther 2 sections I passed and like I said I practiced for a full year so stop assuming you know anything when you dont
I’m with you. Maybe we might end up training together someday
@@btemplr4 yea me to as long as I dont have to do the cfat I should be able to join. See you
Don't waste your time with the military. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Takes weeks to get answers. Better doing a civi job. At least you have more control about what you want to do with your life
Should be an option for Reserves as well…
Well, we have a government that doesn't value people... antiquated equipment, crappy pay and ridiculous cost to housing.... what a mess.
The reason Trudeau destroyed our military is that he hates men with manhood. 😂 Remember when he dressed in Indian and danced like a woman?
Why would anyone with British and French heritage do that?
✝️🙏 There is still hope for our Canada.
I have msc from auckland uni in new zealand. Do i need the equivilancy check and who pays for it?
As a reservist i will need to take thd test ?
Did DGPR even engage the certain trades to find out if they were okay putting aside the CFAT? I'm Cbt Engr, and our MES specifically states the minimum score required. So someone joins, chooses Cbt Engr, goes on BMQ but doesn't score high enough for the trade, then what? Certain trades on the list, Cbt Engr NCM or officer, or Arty officer are math heavy.
Great video! I'm headed to my first interview in April and am very excited. I'm interested in skipping these 2 tests as both my chosen career (Infrantry Officer)and university degree seem to fit the criteria. I've been told that the decision will be made on the spot once I've met with the recruiters, and they look at my documents.
Good luck!
Thank you, Petty Officer Fraser!
Please what was your application timeline?
This was a very informative video.
Not sure if you will see this. I’ve been feeling called towards military chaplaincy. Just curious, would that position need to do it?
Have not done this kind of stuff for years. Would not do well probably.
Any info would be great. Thank you.
Chaplains do not have to write the CFAT. You need to have a Masters of Divinity degree.
@@PrairieSailor Okay.
Yea getting it next month. Finally done.
Thanks for the information!
Lower the standards, Lower the stxcadards,
Lrtwr tfh cstandrds.
Wonder why nothing works, and why people leave.
The reason Trudeau destroyed our military is that he hates men with manhood. 😂 Remember when he dressed in Indian and danced like a woman?
Why would anyone with British and French heritage do that?
✝️🙏 There is still hope for our Canada.
If you were to join the reserves can you still fail your apptitude test?
In the royal Canadian navy do they still issue out the high collar white tunic
No, and they have not since I joined in 2005. It is not issued, you have to buy it yourself. But it is still a real order of dress.
I dont understand whe i was asked for my 3 career i was interested in i pick all that were doing the fast pass but they said i have to take the cfat anyway? Can somebody explain
Could you make a video on becoming a Naval Warfare Officer in the reserve? I've heard that they have to pretty much go full time for around 3 years before becoming fully qualified. A video or comment would be helpful in letting me know more about reserve NWOs and their commitments as well as civilian/school life balance
In the Reserve NWOs have to do 12 months total full time training over the first 5 years of their career in order to be fully trained/qualified. So 2-4 months of full time training per year as a summer job for 4-5 years. It is also sometimes possible to go on Regular Force courses and get the training with back to back modules/courses rather than spacing them out.
@@PrairieSailoranother question I have is that what kinds of things do naval reserve units do on weekend trainings? Are they required to go into the forest and set up tents like the army?
Quick question since they remove the aptitude test of botswain will that helped because I'm infanteer and I want to put a volunteer ot and I don't remember if my aptitude match the botswain one
I do not believe the new policy makes any difference for changing occupations. I think it is only for entry. I could be wrong, check with your personnel selection officer (PSO).
Your videos are so informative. I have applied and my file showing final processing from last 3 weeks. Will be any bad impact on my file if I follow up with the recruiter ?
No bad impact at all, I encourage you to do so!!
I’m interested in applying for an officer position but I won’t have my bachelors degree until December, do you know how long this trial is running for?
I don’t know how long.
Does provincial government officer who did previously a CFAT for his occupation can skip it for reserve?
CFAT scores do not expire (if you did it since they record them electronically around year 1995) so you wouldn’t need to redo it anyway.
Quick question about BMQ in the summers, do we need to recieve vaccines? If so, which ones? Also if we already have our mandatory vaccines, are we required to be re-vaccinated?
“the CF H Svcs strongly urges you to take every effort to obtain your civilian immunization records from your local public health department and/or your doctor, and present this record to CF H Svcs personnel for review upon request”. They don’t want to give you immunizations you already have again. I am not certain on the current policies, they are hard to look up because if I search anything about vaccines all that comes up is stuff on Covid. When I did BMQ I submitted my vaccine record for my doctor and they gave you any of the standard vaccines you were missing or out of day, like tetanus, measles, and all the standard Canadian vaccine schedule.
you're required to be 'up to date' with your vaccinations; which means you agree to be vaccinated over and over, indefinitely
I joined the regular force and didn’t finish bmq, but I’m interested in joining the reserve, will I have to do the cfat again?
No, you will not.
Hi! I have an allergy to certain nuts and I am required to carry an epi pen wherever I go. I recently completed my medical whuch was the LAST step in my application process and i was told “the forces usually does not admit people with epi pens” and there is a high chance my application will be denied. I believe this is unjust and not fair since i have had this allergy from birth and i feel being denied fully from the forces is unacceptable since it is my passion to join the CAF. Hopefully someone can answer this for me. Thanks.
Minimum operational standards state all CAF members must: “perform duties with minimal or no medical support; and
perform effectively without critical medication.” In recent news stories I have heard that medical standards may be changing, but at the moment any condition (or allergy) that requires medication can disqualify you. www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/policies-standards/defence-administrative-orders-directives/5000-series/5023/5023-1-minimum-operational-standards-related-to-universality-of-service.html
Is it true that the only positions that are being hired/recruited for are the ones listed as "In Demand". So if a trade doesn't say "In Demand" the likelihood of being hired is non-existent or you're on a waiting list for who knows how long.
That’s not necessarily true. In the Navy we are definitely hiring for Boatswain and Naval Combat Information Operator and they are not listed on the website as in demand. That is just an example, there are many more. In demand means we are shorter than usual, it does not need to be in demand to be hiring.
@@PrairieSailor thank you for clearing that up. That was a deterrent to me exploring CAF further.
Hi,
Can CAF's paid education programs be utilized for pursuing a physical therapy program in the United States, or are they only applicable to universities within Canada?
This link has a list of approved programs for paid education. I think they are all Canadian. forces.ca/en/paid-education/ncmstep
That list was for NCM STEP program. This one is for ROTP forces.ca/en/paid-education/rotp
Genuinely I think it is a salary problem.
No, it's not a salary issue, in Nov. 2022 to Nov 2023 , 21,147 male and female applied only 77 was processed, the process is slow, and limited.
People are not deterred by salary, the short fall right now is opening the gate a little wider and giving the pilot projects they are trying a little and longer stretch to work.
I live in NB and there's really no education on the army. I see alot of irrelevant commercials on TV nothing about our arm forces.
@@IamAzuri True, It's been almost a year for me since i started my application, it is really slow specially the background clearance stage.
The forces reached out to me for a civil engineering role. The highend of the payscale was a 20k paycut from what I currently earn. Its a salarynissue.
@Thenorth12 It shouldn't take that long. Did you spend a lot of time outside Canada recently? That might slow down the application.
Part of what held me back was our equipment modernization takes forever and the fact we are not paying attention to the arctic enough.
Question, is this going to still be a requirement for infantry reserves? Education is grade 12, life experience I am now a real estate agent.
CFAT is still required for Reserves.
Why can’t we use calculator in the maths?
I did everything like a week ago completed the questionaire for infantry what's next?
Contact your recruiter and ask! Usually it’s security clearance and medical, then interview. Sometimes people do the order slightly differently.
Could I apply for this program to get into the regular forces to skip the Cfat and then transfer over to the reserves or do I have to stay in the regular forces until my contract ends
You would have to finish your contract. If that is your plan I recommend doing the Naval Experience Program because it’s only one year, then you could transfer to the reserves.
How long is the contract usually for the regular Army?
Why go through all that if you can just write the CFAT? Is it the actual test you’re concern of or something else?
I took the CFAT just for the heck of it and I passed. One of the questions was if I want to be a physicist like Albert Einstein, etc etc (a different term was used by the way).
If I was a soldier in Mexico before will that make It easier for me to get in the armed forces in Canada of course as a permanent resident?
Harder
Is the expedited application trial available for the reserves as well?
No it is not, Regular Force only. It is available for the Naval Experience program.
Hello, I am trying for reserves army for Artillery officer position. Can you please tell me how is the BMOQ going to be. I know they do it in parts also can you please give information on which modules have to be completed full time and which modules will be part time. Thank you in advance.
I believe Army Reserve BMQ and BMOQ are done on weekends.
At 0:50 you mentioned not being privy to info because you're a reserve recruiter.
What was all the long/overflogged security clearance and delays for when the very reservists won't get pertinent access to info available to the rest of their trade? - dont know if things like this are right or intentional
Shocking to say the least.
Reserve recruiters work at their local units rather than the recruiting centres. They are not always the best at disseminating information. Also, like I said this program does not apply to the reserves, so it wasn’t essential for us to have it right away.
Security Clearance is backed up for everyone. This CBC article may have some insight: www.cbc.ca/news/politics/permanent-resident-military-applications-enrolment-1.7116469
So I plan on applying as an intelligence officer through the ROTP program. Will I be required to write it? Currently in a civilian uni
INT O is on the list, but it also says it is for Direct Entry Officer (DEO) entry plan. I don’t know if you are eligible with ROTP, you will have to check with your recruiter.
@@PrairieSailor would this still mean I’d write it as apart of the application process or during BMOQ? If you know.
Are the salaries shown in the Canadian Army on the Canadian Army website after taxes or before taxes?
I believe they are before taxes. They are gross pay.
@@PrairieSailor How much is deducted from the salary approximately after taxes ?..
Does port inspection diver have this I’m changing trades and don’t wanna do it again lmao
Port Inspection Diver is not one of the occupations listed in the program.
7th! waiting for my app to be processed. Post medical since midmarch. I hope to hit BMQ april 7th, but no official offer.
Good luck!
@@PrairieSailor ty sir
Wrong skin color, btw why would anyone want to join a Woke ideology driven useless Federal department.
You have no budget, no standards, clown show.
Devoid of leadership and a parasitic culture.
I applied last week and on the application portal it says im ready for testing. I called the recruitment centre and was told i have to wait 1-3 mos till i get an email for the next step. I wonder why? He didnt explain.
What path(officer or NCM) and trade did you apply for ?
At our unit we try our best to get people in for testing within 21 days of completing the online application. It is different everywhere depending on staffing and demand. Good luck with your application!
I applied to become a Boatswain with the Canadian Navy. They said because of my dual citizenship. The background processing may take up to a year. Is this the worst-case scenario? I grew moslty here in Canada, and i do have my citizenship. I arrived here at the age of 5.
Security Clearance is super backed up for everyone unfortunately. My advice is to stick it out and be patient, it should come through eventually and be worth it.
@@PrairieSailor Ok. Thank you, sir.
Even with your citizenship, the BC would still take a yr? Why can't Ottawa just open the doors to recruit more folks to procees applications and pressure agencies to complete the BCs within tighter timeframes?
Is it true that once you are out in canadian army what ever certificate you got in canadian army force that will be useless once you are civilians again ? And you have to go back to school basically experience only you can get from the force
we took in a military dude that was on this program to work with civilians and from my understanding the certification you guys get in the army is useless outside of the army.
Veteran career transition services can help you figure out how to transfer your military training and skills to a civilian career: www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/education-and-jobs/finding-a-job/career-transition-services?adv=2324-500250&id_campaign=20799408845&id_source=155558107563&id_content=681998425177&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw5ImwBhBtEiwAFHDZx9OH7g8sv9YY0tZkAKMskJueCMRm8aKq6PP0Z54Xj5Fsat_nw7i1DxoC5rgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
The veteran education and training benefit will also give you $45,000-90,000 (for real) for education and training after you release. www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/education-and-jobs/back-to-school/education-training-benefit?adv=2324-500250&id_campaign=20799408845&id_source=155558107603&id_content=681998425180&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw5ImwBhBtEiwAFHDZx8J9fn_zhl7bHDEAwMoMpho7DjabDc5BqPaAlWKiAhrFT1w0glCqURoCVTgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I applied for NCM position and have a Masters degree from canadian university. My application says ready for testing in my account. Can you explain what that mean? Do I need to take CFAT since I have a master's degree?
@@dhyaneshnathdeevi8078 You may not need to take it depending on the Occupation. The status saying ready for testing is a generic tracking system and may not reflect your application file exactly.
hello sir,
i received a message inviting me to take part in the Expedited Trial but my equivalence was'nt ready. My diploma is equivalent to master degree in Canada. I was a teacher in the electrical and power system in my country. I wish to know if they will give me another chance for the Expedited Trials?
I would think so. Just tell them you are waiting on your equivalency and you will get it to them asap.
I wish to know the difference between TSD-PI and an interview sir
i failed two time for imagery technician. however I want to apply for cook, do i still need to take an exam even though I did CFAT for imagery tech twice? however I did an upgrading for math and english. thank you in advance.
@@Zoe-ie4ns when you wrote it for image tech they should have told if a) you did not meet CAF minimum standard, or b) you did not meet for image tech. If b), they should have provided a list of occupations that you did meet.
@@PrairieSailor they did not provided me a list of occupations. maybe I also did not make it🥹
My application for reserves in in process scored good in CFAT and today had my medical as per , medical examiner I need to test my hearing by some specialist , if you can help me in understanding this that will be big help , if possible let me know how can I contact you . Please help me in overcoming this hurdle , before today I never knew I have hearing issues
You can DM me on instagram @prairie.sailor, but I can’t help with medical questions. I can tell you that it is very common that they send applicants to be seen by another doctor or specialist.
I will create an account and message you thanks for the response
If you maxed out your 2 tries for the CFAT, would you still be accepted in the expedited application trial?
No, if you have written the CFAT once you are still eligible. If you have written it twice you are not. I explain this in the video during the questions near the end.
@@PrairieSailor thank you for answering. I guess I’ll wait for the draft then
85 IQ is the legal cut off.
Unless you want to be a specific trade.
A lot of recruiters are looking for quota filling, oh and straight young white males are Not what they want to hire.
Most of the issues is the recruiters do not know there jobs.
The CAF is another Woke Federal Department, useless beyond belief.
For all the guys who served back in Yugoslavia and Afghanistan, it's been a purge since Trudeau took office on purpose.
We do not have a military.
Nor are they capable of doing anything.
So far in my recruiting process I have found the only way to get anything done is to actually go to the recruiting office in person. Phone calls go nowhere, emails are not replied to, the online application program of the forces website is broken to the point it wouldn't even let me enter my primary phone number. If your serious about joining the only way is to get down to a recruiting office.
I scored high on the CFAT but refused to get the jabs. I wanted to be an infanteer but in order to fo anything besides sweep the floor; you have to be 'up to date with your vaccinations'
It’s such a joke, majority of infantry soldiers aren’t weak liberals.. I’m in the same boat as you, scored high on my CFAT but want to join as an infanteer but this woke vax bullshit makes me deplore serving this woke mess of a country
@@Thedarcyboys are ancestors would be ashamed of our government
Question is the scored employment application form for resurves
No, it’s for Regular Force. The entire Expedited Application Trial is Reg Force only.
I have submitted and am awaiting to complete my testing. I am nervous though the whole math thing lol ugh
Good luck, you will do great!
I already written my CFAT first attempt and I didn’t pass, will I be eligible on this program? I did my first attempt CFAT on reserve but I wanna switch to regular one so I can do this is that possible?
Yes it should be if you meet all the other criteria.
@@PrairieSailor thank you sailor. You have a big help to me watching your videos since I started my application.
I have another question😅 basically my story is I failed the imagery tech twice and now I want to take Cook and still the recruiter wanted me to take the CFAT. I am so scared to fail again multiple times, I am embarrassed to return again to show my face and saw that I failed 2 times and see me to do it for 3rd time . Can I just bypass and do my best in the basic training and military? I just want to have a stable job and respected job in the industry where my parents can be proud of me.
@@Zoe-ie4ns You don’t need to be embarrassed, I have re-tested many people and never thought anything negative about it. We want you to succeed!
@@PrairieSailor but I can’t able to bypass?🥺
So if it says expatiated trial it means that don’t need to do the CFAT
Yes, if you meet the requirements it is one of the occupations eligible for the expedited trial to bypass the CFAT.
This is really interesting. You're the only person who said that they are skipping for regular force members not reserve forces. Personally I don't understand why they are doing it for some occupations and not others. If the Armed forces want more people to join, then they should not limit people with just degrees under their belt. I make more with my job then I get paid as a REG member. People come from various backgrounds and skills. Some people are faster some are slower than others. Good luck getting people to join. I won't be one them :)
When the test is failed twice consecutively, one cannot benefit from the accelerated candidacy😮💨
That is correct.
So, is the college diploma still required for example, armour soldier? Or was that only for the ones with the asterisk and 1/2 beside it
Can I join the Canadian army as an experienced non-Canadian citizen without a residence permit?
You need to be a Permanent Resident or Canadian Citizen to apply.
Thank you for your interest, this is my dream and I am working for it.
I trying to join engineering officer ,I wrote tests unfortunately I can’t past .am I eligible to skip then ?
If you have the appropriate Bachelors degree and you only wrote the CFAT once, yes you should be eligible for the Expedited Application Trial.
@@PrairieSailorno I don’t have Bachelors dgree. I am student's last year of high school. I just did once test.
Would your background check go faster if a brother of yours has already been in the Canadian armed forces
I don’t know. They go faster if your references and employment contacts know we are calling and answer the phone. Sometimes it can be delayed by extended phone tag.
@@PrairieSailor If i only have a college diploma and run a small business (will struggle to find non family references). Theres no chance for me right?
@@mastaaceexclusive It's not as rough as that. They're hurting for people.
Hi sir I have question I did twice the cfat but I didn’t pass it what the next?
Should I reapply or I can skip the cfat ?
You cannot skip the CFAT if you have written it twice. If you upgrade your education (take an online math course at high school level) you can request a CFAT waiver to write it a third time.
@@PrairieSailor thank you for your kindly information
I totally agree with this! I will absolutely join now
Quick question, do permanent residences and citizens, have an equal success rate in applying for the CAF? Does it take longer based on different factors? If so, which factors?
And is there a way for me to ask further questions more directly to you? And maybe even privately If possible? (e-mail, instagram, etc.)
It takes longer for Permanent Residents due to Security Clearance taking much longer. www.cbc.ca/news/politics/permanent-resident-military-applications-enrolment-1.7116469
@@PrairieSailor Are there any known estimated durations or time it usually takes for permanenet resident applications to be finished?
@@lidob The estimated time for a PR security clearance is 6-18 months, however it can take up to two years.
@@PrairieSailor Are there still chances of PR clearance taking only less than 6 months?
@@lidob Yes, there have been cases of Permanent Residents being enrolled in 6 months of processing. It more common for it to take longer, but it is possible.
Recruiter professionalism matters and appearance matters. The CAF's greatest strength was the ability to inspire people to believe in a higher purpose: a sense of service before self. It retained people by forging a sense of belonging in this and the other core values. The professionalism of the CAF was reflected in its members. The CAF has now fallen prey to individual identify and sub-group agendas which do not align to support the core mission and values of the organization but rather an outside external influence. The groups take precedence over the sense of being a member of the RCAF, the Navy or some other service branch sub-group (Logistics, Health Service Corps) which previously created belonging and a sense of purpose. Accentuating individual identify and difference will erode the common bond and unity when the time comes and it is critical for CAF effectiveness.
The reason Trudeau destroyed our military is that he hates men with manhood. 😂 Remember when he dressed in Indian and danced like a woman?
Why would anyone with British and French heritage do that?
✝️🙏 There is still hope for our Canada.
I heard a citizen has been waiting 4years to get in(still waiting). I’m more concerned about eye sight cause mine is very bad without my glasses. Thick lens bad
But the waiting period is wild
Usually if the waiting period is that long it is for a specific reason. The average is 4-6 months, slow cases because of medical etc can be around 1 year, and the longest and worst security clearance delays are 2 years. 4 years is not something I have experienced.
Why have more people left then entered the Canadian armed forces over the past 3 years?
Good question! I’m sure there are lots of reasons that are hard to pinpoint.
Not hard to pinpoint at all. Many are leaving because the institutional values no longer align with theirs. The military is becoming a mercenary organization filled with individuals not teams unified in sense of purpose, shared values, applied talents, demonstrated commitment to something more than their own advancement and their merit when called on to perform. So people leave and look for this elsewhere. DEI is a cancer that is eating the insides out of the military.
@@PrairieSailor so strange, a true mystery. What could it possibly be? the answer eludes me 😂😂😂😂
Yes the Minister is correct its a death spiral. How about doing what worked in the past? 2006-11 the CAF was in Force Expansion footing and doubled intake targets, launched a team of specialists and connected with Canadians by focusing on influencers in colleges and community leaders. By 2013 the CAF had exceed personnel levels and shut down the program.
Well, in 2006 we had a wartime military, now nobody cares ...
@@AnonymeAnonyme2 Very fair. Does that mean people saw a purpose and today they no longer see something to identify with?
@@markrussell3428 Yes, when soldiers die on the battlefield, there is immense pressure to make things work and to think outside the box. I don't think there is much greater purpose then that. Also, most people that have a sense of patriotic and warfighting purpose are white conservative male, the CAF aren't too interested in them right now...
@@markrussell3428 When soldiers die on the battlefield there is a strong sense of purpose to make things work and to think outside the box. Also, most people with a sense of patriotic purpose and warfighting spirit are mostly white conservative men, the CAF isn't much interested in them right now ... But, in wartime they will...
Hello I'm interested for joining the canadian army
That’s great, you can apply at forces.ca
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This video can help with the application process. Just skip the Navy stuff, the rest is the same.
The best part about being a reservist musician is being able to say no to deployments, no to training, no to postings, not having to do entire courses at once, and only having to show up when you really want to while still getting most of the benefits associated with being in the military.
You must be fruity
Writing my CFAT Wednesday. Guess what I applied for didn’t exclude me from it. Oh well, I got this !
Good luck!
Please where and when did you apply ?
Hello. I passed the interview and CFAT and now I'm waiting for the background check. Since I have a PR I was told that it could take 12 to 18 months. To tell the truth, this is a very long time and I don’t even know what to do if after years of waiting, my plans may change. Can I cancel the background check at any time?
You might as well let the security clearance finish. When it’s done you don’t have to join. I would agree that it’s impossible to know if you still be interested/available to do it in 12-18 months, but you might as well leave the option open. You can voluntarily withdraw your application at any time, including after security clearance is complete if you have found another job, or any other reason.
@@PrairieSailor Thank you. After successful verification and preparation for the next stage, there will also be an option to ask for time to resolve all your affairs with work, etc. before going to basic training?
@@PrairieSailorpretty sad that it takes upto 18 months for a stupid background check
@@tysoncomfort4244The reason for the BC bottleneck has been found as Intergovernmental agency rivalry and refusal to prioritize each other's information requests, simply.
Never heard there was a backlog for CRA processing people's taxes or charging them to pay more, you know why?, because they have been staffed in excess and all roadblocks stopping them from issuing tax requests have been eliminated to zero, like ZERO.
And CRA processes taxes for 40 odd million canadians each year without fail. How can 22,000 CAF applications be bringing an entire countries' recruitment to its knees? It screams something that isn't the most efficient and properly prioritized.
That's how you know what the government prioritizes and what they care about and what they don't.
The folks in HQ & parliament have a way of solving the problem, why are their hands still folded?
I joined 2 years ago, great job, but not what you expect, at all. Get ready for a whole new world. The people that leave the CAF do so mostly because of boredom and lack of deployments in their career. It seems like they, the CAF, are changing things up to fix it.
"For a new world"
Care to share what that comprised of and examples of this boredom that reservists experienced?
There is a lot of variation in experiences depending on where you work and your occupation. Thanks for sharing!
I want to do aerospace engineering, construction engineering, pilot, or social work. I’m currently doing my bachelors degree in Bsc psych and biology. Could you please advise me whether engineering is possible for me or I would have to get a diploma? I have my fitness test booked for next month.
The culture of joining the military is gone but not lost. You shouldnt waste your time with expectations on day 1. Similarily you shouldnt be assigning them to a trade that they have no experience with. OJT during first year should include many 2 week tours around different bases not just St.jean sur richelou or Borden
This sounds a lot like what the Navy is doing right now with the Naval Experience Program. Try different occupations before you decide: ua-cam.com/video/AQChM6ck50Q/v-deo.htmlsi=TSkI1sf4zkmspG86
My first reaction to your click bait was “ is this a DEI initiative to further weaken the Canadian military?”
Grate, I cant reads to good
Reading is pretty crucial though. Are you practicing?
lmao
I want to be in the Navy one day
Good luck! I’m here to help answer any questions you may have.
Skip thr CFAT and get to interview in a month
Than get hit with security clearance that will take 6-18months lol
I think more people would join if the government in power didn’t upset the public as much as they do. I know that has nothing to do with your video, but non the less, great video and information! Personally ive always wanted to join and I appreciate yours and everyone who has served service, but one of the other reasons I hesitate is the fact how they keep making it easier, further weakening the people your serving with,each year and each generation. Personally, the harder it is, the more likely I would be to try.
Passing the CFAT in early Nov was a legit confidence boost as a 36 y/o fella who has been off the academic train for quite some time. I'm doing DEO, but now I'm starting to wonder if I could have picked something 'cooler' due to the weight being off of the CFAT. When I do a personal assessment, my actual ability (evidenced) I felt was as reflected in my score as I would have expected. I just hope the flooding of new people (including me) there is not a claw back in compensation or salary for currently serving and soon serving members.
We are getting a salary raise on 1 April 2024 actually. All CAF salaries are publicly available: www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/benefits-military/pay-pension-benefits/pay.html
@@PrairieSailor Ohdaaaaaang!
Wow, you don't sound like a Russian bot at all!
So why didn't you try to join when it was as it's "hardest"?
You realize the US military have adjusted standards to get more bodies into their armed forces?
And for specialized roles where they can't get regular people to fill, they have adjusted to the able to poach top talent from the Civilian sector, even if it's to pay them x3 more, allow them serve part time and other perks.
A military is of its people and must constantly adjust, so the ranks can have effective strength in both peace time and war time.
Can the army give me permanent residency..? I would like to apply being in the army is my dream career….
I believe the army should also.. give temporary residencies a chance to sign up,join army and once they have join they can now get there permanent resident or citizen from the army..
How can you join the army when your not even a PR?
This video reinforces how much standards in the CAF have fallen and why I, as a veteran, continue to strongly encourage young people NOT to join the CAF.
This is kinda stupid. Why would i join if i went to school for something already? Going in to make less than i would working as a civilian plus you went to school so you alreadyhad something else in mind. Also I get the point of the test but i was in a room with 7 others and only 1 person passed. If their lowering standards why not remove the failing part for the only 3 jobs you pick and give them a list of jobs that their score can do. Alot of people would feel more comfortable with that rather then knowing you fail 3 times its over. If they said hey your score can get you these jobs like cook ammunition and weapons management whatever an individual might take a less desirable role and try again later to move to a different job.
they should lower the standard to needing a grade 5 education level
there should still be a CFAT but it should only include the coloring book and crayons section.
All my fellow applicants who were rejected due to anxiety...
At what stage did anxiety get identified and pointed to as the reason for rejection?
@1anre my first time applying, I went through all the steps at my local reserve unit. Filled out all the paperwork, including medical. I was open and honest and simply put down generalized anxiety disorder. I did the CFAT and force test. Then, waited and waited and waited. Then, I received a letter stating they could not accept me at said time due to my anxiety disorder. I am now applying for a third time. Did everything again, paperwork, CFAT, and Force test. Had to have my doctor fill out a questionnaire asking if I've overcome and can cope with my anxiety, which is true. After the first rejection, I started working on myself. Went to therapy and group sessions, learned about anxiety, and how to cope with it. There have been moments when I have said I don't want to join anymore, but I keep coming back to it. I've always wanted to join the forces, and I feel pretty confident this time around, they'll say yes.
Good luck with your application. A list of pre-existing medical conditions can be found here: forces.ca/en/help-centre//#/view/18
@PrairieSailor thanks! I have seen the medical list before. I was talking with my recruiter when I started the application again, and we talked a little bit about anxiety and stuff. She said she has anxiety, especially before going on an FTX or something. I am kind of glad they rejected me the first time because I did need to work on myself. As everyone says, sort out your personal stuff before basic. I feel way more comfortable and confident this time around.
@ancamp98 you sound like a solid person. Keep going and let us know on this thread once you enroll!
The CFAT isn't all that hard. Its the Maritime Officer Selection Test (MOST) that I struggled with. No prep or practice tests available for it. Has no real meaning to being an NWO as it mainly pertains to STD calculations that we don't really apply until NWO III.
How is it like being a reserve NWO? I heard that they have to go full time for around 3 years to fully qualify before going back to part time. Is this true?
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How about bring back haircuts and proper deportmant
. How about look at why people are leaving. Perhaps fighting for Canada with Trudeau in charge may be part of the issue
The more you remove standards, the more you remove pride, and reasons to stay in. Believe me, I know.
Didn’t watch the video but skipping cfat is a catch I was told you can only get to combat rolls with just high school
To get any more serious like positions you need to have at least a year done in college otherwise forget about bypassing cfat.
Fail first time second time you have to prove with a literal log book of when you studied
Fail second time you gotta go back to high school math in college
Fail again then they will not ever take you gain no more chances
Well you should watch the video. There are dozens of roles including technical trades that qualify for skipping the CFAT with the expedited application trial.
@@PrairieSailor I was told you cannot skip the CFAT in technical rolls for example aviation tech unless you have at least one year completed in college or university. Additionally I was told only completing high school will allow you to skip the CFAT but for combat rolls only otherwise your outta luck unless you’ve got a year completed in university or college.
I’ve got only one class i didn’t finish in college otherwise I passed everything and that wasn’t good enough nor my relevant work experience. I’ve decided not to continue my process and that I’d rather just wait till next year to re take that college course (I’m a welder)
My skills and work experiences show my aptitude and I believe i should have been just let in but my case person said no your not good enough to re do the CFAT. I’m not interested in writing the CFAT again and I’ve just decided that I’ll pause on my process and that I’d rather just go back to college and finish the once class I didn’t get through:)
I wanted and trained and prepared my self a lot a lot and put in a lot of time but I’ve adjusted to what’s met to be will be. I understand how some people say the aptitude test is so easy and so and so I believe it but not everyone is there on same level and that can be education system/person to blame. I’ve studied but to me that test is way over kill that’s my personal opinion. I believe that a person should be considered based on there experiences and if something the military trains you what’s needed and if you don’t make the cut then and your un able to learn then you get cut off. (I believe had of our recruitment system been like this that we’d get more recruits in)
For me when I was told no you can’t skip the CFAT I was pretty caught back. I’ve literally done the job in civilian world and have other relevant experiences and delivered quality results but some how that doesn’t even mean anything and in eyes of government I’m quote on quote stupid just because of some paper test…
There’s a saying don’t judge a book by its cover and another one is just because someone looks good on paper doesn’t make them the best candidate the one with the worst can be the best.
We have normal dialogue no tension at all. I’ll end it off with I’m left disappointed and at the moment I continue to work in the trades. I plan to go to complete my college but will I or not enlist ever again will see.
If you interested in my story or would like to know more or get a better understanding let me know I’d be up to talking or writing about it with you more, just let me know:)
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I skipped the CFAT for information technician
Ok so if you want to be an officer you put that as your choice and they will train accordingly so long as you pass the requirements, right?
Yes.
@@PrairieSailor Thank you. Theres a lot of scattered information when it comes to our forces, unfortunately. All ive gathered is everything is really on a per person basis.
I think this is a CAF disaster in the making. What on earth are they thinking of. Boosting recruitment at the expense of intelligence and Canadian citizenship is stupid.
Why can’t we use calculator in the maths?
Because your tested on your ability to solve the problems on the test. So you have to be able to know how to solve each math question correctly. If you use a calculator.. the it’s not a effective way to evaluate your ability on how to problem solve