How was it made? JayDee - Plastic Dreams
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Dude. I cannot even begin to explain how Earth-shattering this track was for me. The very first time I heard it I froze for like 10 seconds before I LOST. MY. MIND.
Same dude, was a spiritual experence.
The Green Onions of the rave generation, Plastic Dreams was an instant classic.
It's a JX-8P factory preset: Music Box preset played at lowest notes, the organ sound is from a TX81Z preset: "16 8 4 2 F"
Ah!! Thank you!
"Music Box" is part of it. The sound actually comes from the JX10/MKS-70, which is two JX8P engines ganged together in layers. In the ROM of the MKS-70 are all the JX8P patches (along with many more). Patches on the MKS-70 are made up of two base patches with a common layer between them so you can adjust volume, key spreads, etc... Anyway, there is a preset on the MKS-70 (I can't remember the name) which is made up of Music Box pitched an octave down + another patch on the root note. The same sound can be heard at the fade out of the song "Celestial Symphony" by Scubadevils, played at it's normal range. This is in fact the sound that was used in Plastic Dreams.
I think its Tibetan Bell on the MKS-70@@activelow9297
@@vikramprincerai3519 Yes, that's correct. My MKS-70 was unplugged and sitting on the floor so I was unable to check... but that is the one.
@@activelow9297what an absolute belter of a tune celestial - scuba devils is ;)
This series is the best! can you please do “system error”- two right wrongans ?
Awesome breakdown as always - reckon you should tackle Golden Girls 'Kinetic' next.
That is a good shout. Yes please.
Someone else mentioned it and I've been researching. If I can get close to recreating the lead I'll do it :)
That's an unbelievably tough one, pretty sure the main hook which is basically the whole tune is just a random sample, I have looked for the source for years and never seen ANYTHING about it. Sounds like a string sample pitched down, maybe off a digital synth, weren't Orbital using the Korg Wavestation back then?
Would love to know if you can find out. La Tour - Blue is another one I would love to know how the lead is done
This video highlights why I subscribe to your channel. Not only are you a talented musician and producer, you are also an exceptional teacher. Your modesty and genuineness as a person are apparent in your presentation and style. I love how you encourage followers to appreciate and utilize "happy accidents". Your track/song detective work and love for the process is contagious and motivating. Thank you for creating a positive and helpful space for us. - Sean 🙂
Wow! Thanks so much Sean! This comment has genuinely made my day ♥️♥️♥️
He's the Bob Ross of dance!
Quite simply in a realm very few tracks can reach. Great dive.
Great breakdown. First heard this at Nimmos (before it became Niche) in Sheffield in the early 90s. What a place that was! Friday nights were Rise at the Leadmill followed by Nimmos until 6am. Then off to Bramall Lane for the match a few hours later. No idea how I managed to do that 😂
The drum track that is what gives all the high end verbish and cymbalish thickness is also used on an old skool rave track by World Dominance called Compression. The start of that track has just the high end bits layered about with ocassional kicks in there, but you can eq out the kicks quite simply. I belive the story goes that this is all sampled from "the amen break". Using old style samplers and isolating different elements from that breakbeat break and using them to get the sound we're talking about here.
FACTS. That was the Hardcore typical breaks sound pre Jungle of the early 90's
@@DJDragon69 Well, yes and no. There was a lot of sampling of the Amen break and the sounds of it were used a lot. But the two tracks we're talking about here for me always had something else about the drum tracks, because of the cymbals and verby sounds washing around all over the beats of each track. For me Jaydee and World Dominance were the only two tracks that really did it that well, that i know of at any rate.
@@theoutsider6191It's an Amen break, with high-passed another break layered over it (which has a wider, stereo sound). Depending on which channel you use, the Amen sounds quite different, and then add some heavy compression to get this sound. It's also used on Doc Scott's N.H.S. (Disco Remix), as well as a few less well-known hardcore tracks from that era.
It does have a nice, clear sample, with the other layered beats, at the start of Compression - Breakouts Vol 2 (Basically the same track as the World Dominance one). I think the clue is in the title, in regards the processing of the Amen break! ))
Actually compression samples Carl Cox - Hardcore Massif!, making the compression break a 5th hand amen break.
I heard this first in a cafe in Amsterdam and it was really the tune that got me into house music. What a tune. Really nice to hear how it was made.
the sound was also used in wackass M.F but this is the classic! a must have for the classics collection! that hip hop break too!!! ya can also find in arman van heldens - you don't know me.
glad i found this channel!!!! exciting!
Merci pour le partage. Un son typique atypique, indémodable, intemporel, ultra culte qui me fait monter en hautes vibrations, limite en transe comme le son "Dreams" de Quench les deux sont indissociables pour moi tellement elles dégagent de bonnes sensations, vibrations, émotions. Je l'écoute encore trés souvent avec le clip qui va avec cela me rappelle les soirées en boite de nuit dans les années 90's.
Absolute banger, and your recreation is a masterpiece!
A killer no doubt.wonder if E2-E4 was an inspiration for this and the boards
You always pick my favorite songs! Detroit mix show DJ's would and still play Plastic Dreams to transition out of hip-hop records to more techno, house and electro music. Or out of "booty music" (Ghetto-tech) to take things deeper into the after-hours. Usually followed by Groove La Chord or Disco's Revenge. Maybe Knights of The Jaguar, but you'd get them all at some point.
This is not a song. This is a track. No one is singing. So simple is this.
@@ACAD912get off yer high horse ( oh hang on there’s another) it’s a choon.. no more no less
thank you for all that effort - i was looking for such a breakdown video a while ago. and here it is. plastic dreams is the best deep house track ever ever.
Brilliant vid mate...
Organs will always have that satisfying head nod with House music. Super always!
My god, I need more! Subscribed!
Legendary track, used it many times in my DJ sets, and there are so many interesting remixes & modern remakes of this classic track as well
Thanks for this, good job.
Robin Albers (JayDee) started to make this classic house number on a boring night. Creativity all the way.
FINALLY! What a tune!
one of my all time favs.... great vid!
After going through the comments regarding the Music Box: I've found a VST called "PG-8X", and combined with a "Factory Bank"-preset, I found the Music Box... Jumped for joy when I used it for the first time!
They used to play this at SW8 club in London Victoria. Man that place was good.
I heard this banger for the first time at James Murphy + 2manydjs Despacio in 2022. It was a magical end to a six-hour set.
This is NOT a song.
@@ACAD912 fixed, thanks bro
7:44 you discovered the Propellerheads
Indeed
On the JD 800, it's most likely the RHODES sound played very low. It's been a while since I sold my JD 800. But I do remember stumbling over that sound and thinking this might be *that* exact sound. Isn't there a kind of shaker loop with flanger or phaser on?
I seen on who sampled the drum break was sampled in Armand Van Helden's - You Don't Know Me
Ah nice one
And there’s a version with just the beat and vocals. You could nab a clean loop for sure.
Awesome, think it was Weatherall playing when I first heard this in Happy Jacks - London Bridge, chooon.
That little breakbeat, where did you get it? I need it :)
Which one? You can get the samples in the description
It's The Monkeeys - mary mary
Love ya work
8:58 isn't that drum loop in the original just am amen? With high passing and some sort of distortion/bitcrushing effect.
Great video thanks, love this track 😎
Exactly my thinking! I'd not long moved over from the rave scene as a DJ and I loved it every time that loop kicked in in Plastic Dreams! I was surprised this was missed.
Yeah, definitely. Sounds to me like it was sampled from Success n Effect - Roll it Up (Bass Kickin Beats) or Bonesbreaks - Janet’s Revenge or the common source which escapes me as I type (UBB?)
I also thought that actually. Tried to emulate Plastic Dreams as well (and I failed miserably), but the break sounded kind of OK-ish. I put a bit of a flanger effect on it.
Great video but the real power and absolute magic in this track for me hearing it in clubs when it came out is the introduction of the Amen break a few mins in which isn’t ID’d correctly or really even mentioned in the video 😂
It's not an amen. Someone linked to the track that was sampled for that bit in these comments
That is a Think break and drum machine, check Tony Scott
@GyuBeats, Golden Girls - “Kinetic?? Yes please! I believe Paul Hartnoll was involved, but don’t quote me on that. Energy 52’s “Cafe Del Mar” would be a good breakdown too. ❤
Great tune. Got the original R&S release
Heard this played by Etapp Kyle at Berghain a few months back, got home and instantly sat down to make my version as I had the idea he played a remix too but in hindsight probably not. Anyway if you're interested in my techno take on it look up Plastic Tool. :) And great video thank u!
Hey !...Firstly, thank you for all the great videos !
Would you be able to re-create "underground resistance - world 2 world - Amazon" that would be amazing !!
Still have this on Vinyl
Bowwww bow bowwwwwww
Exactly!
@@GyuBeats Classic. Loved the vid, very insightful. Like you say, I find turning to the classics really helpful with learning for my own productions. Do you have any contenders for future videos? Would love to see a poll where we can weigh in on what to discover next!
I do have some thoughts :) I'd love to hear your ideas. :)@@ElectronicWitchcraft
Thanks btw :)
How about something from Underworld ... Pearls Girl maybe@@GyuBeats
its on the mks70 that sound I have one if you require the sample
One of the greatest deep, wobbly tracks of all time. Armand Van Halen used the drum break in 'You Don't Know Me' but don't know if he sampled Jaydee or found the original break?!
The drums on Plastic dreams are played by a real drummer, Armand Van Halden denied using it though....sorry for beeing a sample snitch :)
Angel remix of Plastic Dreams has the drum loop that sounds identical to the one used in "You don't know me"
Great video mate and spot on: often the most simple sounding tracks are actually a masterclass in arrangement. And hell yeah to human imperfection!
The second drum loop is the Amen?
Second Organ is an Organ 2 variant off the M1 - I'm almost convinced that all drums except the breaks are from the M1 too.
Wiked video.. can you look at bug khan made in 2 minutes, i woud like to know if it really took only 2 mins
WhoSampled shows the drums to come from here: ua-cam.com/video/C0PXA96G__w/v-deo.html but is that right? However, listen to this one. It's the same beat that' in Plastic Dreams. ua-cam.com/video/UaVumY0Jtrs/v-deo.html. And Who Sampled sure enough shows Armand Van Helden sampled it from Plastic Dreams.
It was Rave's Green Onions.
Hated it at the time, sounded like a graveyard rave tune for zombies
Yeah, that organ piece towards the end just goes a bit 'oo errrr'...
That accident definitely made the track.
this song is ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
You missed the CL at the beginning.
Break loop: Compression Breakout's. Power Tracks Records
OMG!!! Thanks!
Have you done a breakdown go Golden Girls - Kinetic?
Where did the main riff come from / how was it mangled?
Would love to see this, too!
Kinetic is great
I know they did a remix of it, but the main riff in it always sounded very Orbital to me, even in the original mix. I wonder if they took an Orbital track and sampled a noise and messed with it?
First time I heard this was early days Ministry of Sound, Elephant & Castle, South London....Jeremy Healey's first night in the big room. And this came on. Blew me away.... 😊😊❤️🎶🎶🎛
Great vid. I came here because Robin 'Jaydee' Albers just reposted your video on FB. He knows the answers you're looking for.
This has made my day: never get tired of these videos!
If someone doesn't turn the moment at 1:06 into a gif, I will be severely disappointed.
The break drums is off Compression - Breakouts Vol 2 which is turn is a Amen break - The Winstons.
Your not going to find the loops, because he got a drummer to play them.
I first heard this in the Limelight club in New York and it totally blew me away. Still love it to this day. Great work again. Thanks for these fantastic videos.
First time I heard this was when a DJ had two copies and made it last about 40 minutes (Decadance, Bakers, Birmingham). I was fckin livid! Eventually I grew to love it over the years :D
Its not JD-800 its JX-8
It must have been in "The Music Hall" in 93 or 94 In Frankfurt when the DJ put that track on at first listen - I literally fought my way to the booth to get a glimpse on the record and saw a R&S record spinning - It took another year until someone told me the title.
That bad it stuck to my mind - In 96 there was a repress and as a DJ i could always fill the dancefloor with this (or take a pee) as it`s wuite long....😅
I would love to sit down with you and talk music….great channel
Interesting what you said about quantising (or not, in this case) is key to what makes the organ line sound so good.
I've always felt the same about the main piano line in the Orbital track Fahrenheit 303 from their Green album - it just sounds like a live jam over the top of the track which gives it such urgency, spontaneity and life, meaning it's still one of my favourite dance tracks of all time.
The theme tune of our party years this one.. 😜👌👌👌👌👌
Wrong.
Breakbeat from from track
Breakout’s - Compression (1991)
breaks on the @ 8:56 sound on the original like amen break and Think break. Both not just looped ubt re arranged.
Yes Yes Yes another one...CLASSIC!! Thank you!!
Love your channel man. Did a fair amount of remakes myself that are in my channel. I can totally relate to the deep dive rabbit holes to find out which synths were used or where that specific sample came from. You have a very pleasant way of presenting it!
Plastic Dreams (Andrea Doria "Is It Breaks?" Remix) - this track still tweaks me out to this day.
1:05 i think it sounds like a DX7 or FM synth. But I'm unsure about that. nice video... ich love this track so much
The break is breakouts - compression from 1991
Was there any groove or swing applied to the percussion??
Jay dee is also known as Robin Alberts and worked as a radio DJ for the AVRO, TROS, radio3 and Veronica. I have met him a couple of times in clubs such as Eacape, the Melkweg etc in Amsterdam, which is my birth place.
Please thank him .this was and still is such a big tune
he say in a interview,tiesto wil never be a star........oh oke
I know how the intro synth was made. It is super simple once you find the preset :D
Chooooon!
Another accident happened during the production when Robin Albers (Jaydee) accidently quantized the notes wrong. Then the organ notes were misplaced a bit, where it combined some notes at the end of the track
I remember going to records shops trying to explain the song with the gong noise from top gun intro 😂
LOL! That's awesome
Loved this tune when it came out. I remember and I don't remember much DJs would mix it with Muzik X-Press. Those days will never come back.
The bong sound seems to be more like of a percussive instrument. The tail is rhythmic, almost. Then he's embellished with EQ, layering and reverb. I would look at the Triton passive expansion or stock percussion one shots which were used by a lot of people back then.
In the original video clip he plays main organ riff on the JD 800: ua-cam.com/video/GZFyZfzPJtU/v-deo.html and in the video he also had a live drummer. Not sure whether it was staged just for the sake of recording video.
I bought an EPS a few years ago on the stock floppy there's an organ sample which sounds exactly the same. When I loaded it into the RAM in a tenth of a second I thought Plastic Dreams. Instantly.
Great video - HUGE track that I always loved and also wondered how it was made for years.
Thank you for putting this video together.
The break loop: I've always thought it might be a loop from the classic "No Kick" sample CD.
There is a very extended version somewhere (I heard it once) , where he trips in his organ "solo". Quiet funny actually.
Robin Albers (Jaydee) stated once that he had "a smoke" and played this song in one take late at night. He did not even bother to correct notes. The beat is from a sample-cd
cool stuff! thanks for sharing :). I am one of those more details is better but I guess when more educated this is a nice format. Got me into understanding synths and sound creation better! cheers
I haven't even watched this yet, but I saw the title and just wanted to say "YAAAAAAAAAAS BROTHER!" Nice one!
Amazing insight and tutorial, the best I have ever seen so thanks for sharing and demonstrating this in such a great engaging, informative and professional manner.
Heard for the first time at Disco 2000 at Club Limelight. Oh hunny we raved.
Receptive state you meant stoned right ;)
Robin Alberts also stated there where a few mistakes in it when it was released. But no further expanation was given.
would be cool to check out the track: Where's The Love I Knew from Vincenco.
Hearing this in the main room at The Ministry for the very first time (92 I think?) was an experience.
great work as ever,, i always thought there was a bit more of a Kawai K1 vide to one of the organ sound than over a Korg M1 vibe.
Bent - Always (Ashley Beedle mix) be a nice one to remake, he totally transformed that track!
its just amen brothers break aint it?
Not just the Amen break, obviously. It seems to have elements of it though. It's like a fourth or fifth generation of the sample so that it's almost unrecognisable.
Wasn't it a smashed Amen in the drums? Like Carl Cox Success n Effect
amazing video !!! how about a stab at frank de wulf - the tape remix
Great vid - Are you a buddhist? Trying to see the artwork on your walls.
All time favourite track thank you Gyu