Practically everything that could’ve gone wrong in those extremes ended up happening and both groups were still able to bs their way to victory. You love to see it
As long as you only have total disaster happen slightly whenever the group has recovered enough to take it, I'm sure it'll be fine! 😂 Probably some of the funniest clears I've been a part of!
For Titan EX at this point, especially if you take into consideration the kind of mechanics players are expected to deal with in more "casual" modern content, I think the biggest struggle in the past was ping, and feel like your 3man sync kind of demonstrates that, or how a lot of people do MiNE clears for fun on a lot of content. My bonus fact today is that in an old live letter they made a 16bit rendition video of the Titan fight, and you can still find that video on the official ff14 channel. It has a lot of legacy ARR skills on display which I always find funny. Like the warrior's tank stance giving extra hp, or having its Assassinate style attack (sub 20% target hp ogcd that did some damage) and a bunch of little details like that.
Indeed! The fact falling off the arena no longer means you're just out of the fight also makes a huge difference in how approachable this particular fight is! I do remember seeing that video too! 😊
15:45 this makes a bit of sense. Right after reset = people getting in early while they remember. A few days before reset = people panicking and getting weeklies in quickly. The commendation grinders probably try to get in while people are on.
I actually witnessed people bailing from an extreme trial even before it started just recently, The Whorleater. Funny thing too, since it was the very first mentor roulette with my Xaela alt!😄 The group was made mostly out sprouts, and two guys left instantly. We filled the group, having 6 sprouts and 2 mentors and eventually cleared! (although someone did initiate vote abandon after 3 wipes, but it was ignored) The advice I gave as a mentor paid off. People just leaving instantly without saying anything is shameful. Now I can safely say, Monk is the tank, when tanks take a breather. Why do I say this? Because in my static, Monk is usually the one tanking, when me and my co-tank lie on the ground!😂 Now I have confirmation, thanks Cae!
In my experience it is unfortunately very common for one or two players to just scoot immediately when they see it is an extreme, which is also the reason why I view it as an observed positive that people actually stayed! 😂 Awesome that you got it down by the way! I actually have yet to face leviathan ex in Mentor Roulette! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh If you ever get there, keep your eyes open in order to see, where Leviathan will either appear or do a sweep. And when the blue tether orbs appear, remember to attack them only once to get them follow you; don't try to destroy them.
I got king mog extreme this week and we actually cleared. I was that mentor that copy pasted the guide from the wiki and was pleasantly surprised how receptive the inexperienced players were. One of them said that’s a lot of reading which I replied. Well, yes. It’s an extreme fight. Did you expect to clear a fight at this difficulty without knowing anything? 249 more to go before I’m free from the BK crown!
12:44 ADVANCED Ramuh tips: don't stand so close to Ramuh when you have chaos debuff just for this case, normally it takes a lot of time for Ramuh to cast aoe but if it's add phase, he casts it immediately which means that being close to the water makes this surprise survivable as a charmed person in the middle (and hoping that someone will notice you and give you zap). But it also could be bad tip that only delays your death by 20s and stacks it with another group of 2 which could be worse ymmv
@@CaetsuChaijiCh we tried doing that in my MiNE static, and elected never again since it just made the person essentially dead but unraisable because he'd just do the aoe right before the debuff expried.
If i remember right, Titan doesn't use stonecrusher during the heart phase, so you wouldn't have to worry about a swap there anyway. I believe we always used that as a way to reset the stacks in MINE.
So regarding the Bockman science I have done, a few clarifications: It might be possible to solo Uneventful Tincan on every job solo without acknowledging the existence of the adds, but unless you are playing GNB, you will need to make proper use of your defensive options (including kiting for all ranged jobs and bloodbath for all melee dps). Also I have not tested every job. Only SCH, GNB, PLD, RPR, MNK, VPR, MCH and PCT. Alternatively you could just kill the adds. Casters should use Sleep on the adds and healers might end up just kiting with their dot, but as EVERY melee enemy in this duty is unable to hit you while you are kiting properly, this should not pose that much of a problem (the only ranged add spawns when Bockman reaches 25% hp). The job I would be most worried about for this is SGE, as you have no instant casts at level 11, including no dot
Perhaps the power of kardia will be enough! 🤔 But Indeed, an important asterisk to remember when it is said something is soloable, is that if the difficulty is unspoken, it probably means it wasn't trivial! 😅
40 mins for Shadowbringers alliance is alright with me. I still have nightmares from that one Copied Factory run I did as AST some time after Dawntrail dropped and it took over an hour. So much rezzing. At the last boss we wiped because we didn't kill the adds in time and he killed us with the big rockets. We didn't wipe otherwise, the general DPS was very low and everybody kept dying. I died too a few times later in the raid, because my focus was so shot.
Yeah 40 minutes is perfectly fine - I guess I just remember going faster a long time ago, making it feel longer! 😅 Oh that sounds like a nightmare indeed! 😰
4:23 i would still love to see like a second mentor roulette just for extremes maybe even including raids and everything ... and the other mentor roulette is just "normal" stuff ... obviously the extreme mentor need a way better reward than the normal one ... i would love to see that especially once i finally finish unlock the mentor roulette im still panicing about the extremes i have no clue of ..XD 5:20 party finder just feels way more "direct" ... i dont like the feature .. cant even really say why xD it works like the same way the duty finder works just with the difference that you can set your own rules for pretty much everything ... at the same time thats one reason why its more complicated for a beginner in that feature ... if you just scroll through the party finder list 80% of it read like this "you have no clue what im talking about" ... just with different letters ..xDD
whoa! two cleared extremes, that's a great achievement Also hello from the red mage from M2n earlier this afternoon, didn't notice till mid fight and you were gone before I could say hi xD
We did extreme Ravana(Zenit in german) and no matter how often we wrote, the dds and second tank still attacked the 3 way shield >< In duty it seems like, that the players love to ignore chat. For us it was the first time extreme Ravana, and the moment we were inside the duty, we immidiatly asked what to do.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh we just lucked out in one round and won, but sometimes this is just frustrating >< We went to extreme moogle king and after one round about half the team left, without hearing the explenation of the one guy who knew what to do, luckily the ones who joined listened and it was with them a first try
I would love to do mentor roulettes, but I am pretty scared of the extremes and savages. Having played for only a couple of years (joined in EW) means I did all of those unsynced with the help of a friend since nobody wanted to do them synced anymore. Not really sure how to learn the mechanics of these earlier extremes without actually doing it first.
I actually learned how to do both titan and ramuh extreme properly when I got them in Mentor Roulette! The important part here is being willing to learn! Depending on the group, you might even have time to look up the mechanics if no one else knows what to do either! You're not expected to be a master when doing mentor roulette, so just try your best to be helpful and it will be fine! Also, savage and coils of bahamut in general are NOT in Mentor Roulette, just extremes! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Oooh, I thought it would be sort of expected of me to know all the mechanics right off the bat! I am definitely willing to learn and even do a little research in the first few minutes of the duty. Also I thought savage raids are part of it as there's still a few duties I've yet to complete to unlock mentor and I haven't done some of the older savages. Thank you!
@codsamanta i actually have a video where I talk about what a mentor is and what is expected of them if you are curious 😊 Both in terms of what the game expects, and also just... What a mentor is and means! 😁 Here is a link in case you are interested! ua-cam.com/video/f0lKISN_WxU/v-deo.htmlsi=vYolh4mjZY1qZIxp
Honestly, for Ramuh, unless only 1 person does extra orb cleanup only, the group should just leave the orbs alone. Yeah Ramuh does more damage but I can't count the frustration when tanks can't swap because the group stole the orbs they require. If you don't have acute awareness of everything going on in the fight from EVERYONEs PoV, touching those orbs usually leads to a wipe in some form if you have no business touching them. Ranty, but that fight ticks me off as a tank with aggressive players that don't understand the entire state of that fight as they would need to have when interacting with those orbs.
Definitely! That's also why I often quietly "forget" to mention this need to keep the orb count down when explaining the fight in groups, so I have the ability to control it on my own if possible! 😂
the thing about rathalos ex is that 1) it has unique mechanics that are completely unlike anything else in ffxiv, and 2) it absolutely fucking sucks. I support anyone leaving that nonsense immediately
One day I suppose it'll have to happen, at least if you want to unlock mentor roulette one day! 😅 (but that's also very different from spamming it just to get comms and what not!)
@@CaetsuChaijiCh The only thing besides guildhests in my way are ShB extremes. While I admit watching this series has made me consider opening the roulette for, uh... "content purposes", I feel like I'd stop as soon as I get two guildhests back-to-back
Nice video as usual. I find your voice really relaxing 😊 The inclusion of sound effects is a nice touch during the play by play to follow the action. But could you tune down their volume just a bit please
Thank you very much! 😁 Yes I could! I will try to keep it in mind in future videos, I may have overshot the volume in the aim of making sure they don't disappear in the background 😅
Looking at your red girl fight, I'm wondering if they've made more improvements to the visuals to make it less of an epilepsy trigger (or if the lighting update helped.... hmm). The wall insta-kill aoe certainly looks less (visually) painful than it used to be, and whilst those chains and floor aoes are definitely pushing up against the risk for me, they look... less immediately migraine inducing than they used to be. (It used to be *the quickest trigger I have ever found* which was a big (if incredibly annoying) achievement) I might have to give it a go next time (with meds on hand), because it would be *great* if I didn't need to die and hide outside the room for one of the boss fights... (and, more importantly, it would mean I could start queuing alliance/mentor roulettes as healer/tank, because I've never been willing to risk leaving the alliance without one of those during Red Girl).
Wow yeah that is certainly a problem! :/ Hopefully this helped but I do think it is just lighting changes for the most part! Who knows if that is enough though!
![[FFXIV] Mentor Breakdown](/img/n.gif)
Practically everything that could’ve gone wrong in those extremes ended up happening and both groups were still able to bs their way to victory. You love to see it
As long as you only have total disaster happen slightly whenever the group has recovered enough to take it, I'm sure it'll be fine! 😂
Probably some of the funniest clears I've been a part of!
Time to start new characters just to start ramuh for the first time each run. Its a 50/50 chance that cae will be the mentor
Shockingly likely it seems! It's like my character is drawn to it like a magnet! 🤣
I feel like there's always a duty that stalks you. I always get The Chrysalias, like 50/50 for trials
@@IKMcGwee Garuda Hard for me.
@@hoodiesticks Since we're sharing, I swear I get Bismarck a lot, though I don't mind cause I like the music.
For Titan EX at this point, especially if you take into consideration the kind of mechanics players are expected to deal with in more "casual" modern content, I think the biggest struggle in the past was ping, and feel like your 3man sync kind of demonstrates that, or how a lot of people do MiNE clears for fun on a lot of content.
My bonus fact today is that in an old live letter they made a 16bit rendition video of the Titan fight, and you can still find that video on the official ff14 channel. It has a lot of legacy ARR skills on display which I always find funny. Like the warrior's tank stance giving extra hp, or having its Assassinate style attack (sub 20% target hp ogcd that did some damage) and a bunch of little details like that.
Indeed! The fact falling off the arena no longer means you're just out of the fight also makes a huge difference in how approachable this particular fight is!
I do remember seeing that video too! 😊
15:45 this makes a bit of sense. Right after reset = people getting in early while they remember. A few days before reset = people panicking and getting weeklies in quickly. The commendation grinders probably try to get in while people are on.
I actually witnessed people bailing from an extreme trial even before it started just recently, The Whorleater. Funny thing too, since it was the very first mentor roulette with my Xaela alt!😄 The group was made mostly out sprouts, and two guys left instantly. We filled the group, having 6 sprouts and 2 mentors and eventually cleared! (although someone did initiate vote abandon after 3 wipes, but it was ignored) The advice I gave as a mentor paid off. People just leaving instantly without saying anything is shameful.
Now I can safely say, Monk is the tank, when tanks take a breather. Why do I say this? Because in my static, Monk is usually the one tanking, when me and my co-tank lie on the ground!😂 Now I have confirmation, thanks Cae!
In my experience it is unfortunately very common for one or two players to just scoot immediately when they see it is an extreme, which is also the reason why I view it as an observed positive that people actually stayed! 😂
Awesome that you got it down by the way! I actually have yet to face leviathan ex in Mentor Roulette! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh If you ever get there, keep your eyes open in order to see, where Leviathan will either appear or do a sweep. And when the blue tether orbs appear, remember to attack them only once to get them follow you; don't try to destroy them.
@vespi57 oh don't worry, I am intimately in tune with leviathan from when we did it with just three players! 😁
But thank you for the tip!
The fun facts are my lifeblood
I got king mog extreme this week and we actually cleared. I was that mentor that copy pasted the guide from the wiki and was pleasantly surprised how receptive the inexperienced players were. One of them said that’s a lot of reading which I replied. Well, yes. It’s an extreme fight. Did you expect to clear a fight at this difficulty without knowing anything? 249 more to go before I’m free from the BK crown!
Nice job! And yeah king mog is definitely complicated! 😂
Bockman slander! You can only solo his Guildhest because he lets you! If he actually tried you'd be sorry!
The day we finally see what is in fact under the armor!
12:44 ADVANCED Ramuh tips: don't stand so close to Ramuh when you have chaos debuff just for this case, normally it takes a lot of time for Ramuh to cast aoe but if it's add phase, he casts it immediately which means that being close to the water makes this surprise survivable as a charmed person in the middle (and hoping that someone will notice you and give you zap). But it also could be bad tip that only delays your death by 20s and stacks it with another group of 2 which could be worse ymmv
Interesting suggestion, and it could work! Just like how I've seen healers extend the life of a charmed player with rescue as well! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh we tried doing that in my MiNE static, and elected never again since it just made the person essentially dead but unraisable because he'd just do the aoe right before the debuff expried.
Hansel and Gretel is probably the biggest tank check for random players in the entire game.
If i remember right, Titan doesn't use stonecrusher during the heart phase, so you wouldn't have to worry about a swap there anyway. I believe we always used that as a way to reset the stacks in MINE.
Ah that explains at least that much! 😁
So regarding the Bockman science I have done, a few clarifications: It might be possible to solo Uneventful Tincan on every job solo without acknowledging the existence of the adds, but unless you are playing GNB, you will need to make proper use of your defensive options (including kiting for all ranged jobs and bloodbath for all melee dps). Also I have not tested every job. Only SCH, GNB, PLD, RPR, MNK, VPR, MCH and PCT. Alternatively you could just kill the adds. Casters should use Sleep on the adds and healers might end up just kiting with their dot, but as EVERY melee enemy in this duty is unable to hit you while you are kiting properly, this should not pose that much of a problem (the only ranged add spawns when Bockman reaches 25% hp). The job I would be most worried about for this is SGE, as you have no instant casts at level 11, including no dot
Perhaps the power of kardia will be enough! 🤔
But Indeed, an important asterisk to remember when it is said something is soloable, is that if the difficulty is unspoken, it probably means it wasn't trivial! 😅
40 mins for Shadowbringers alliance is alright with me. I still have nightmares from that one Copied Factory run I did as AST some time after Dawntrail dropped and it took over an hour. So much rezzing. At the last boss we wiped because we didn't kill the adds in time and he killed us with the big rockets. We didn't wipe otherwise, the general DPS was very low and everybody kept dying. I died too a few times later in the raid, because my focus was so shot.
Yeah 40 minutes is perfectly fine - I guess I just remember going faster a long time ago, making it feel longer! 😅
Oh that sounds like a nightmare indeed! 😰
4:23 i would still love to see like a second mentor roulette just for extremes maybe even including raids and everything ... and the other mentor roulette is just "normal" stuff ... obviously the extreme mentor need a way better reward than the normal one ... i would love to see that especially once i finally finish unlock the mentor roulette im still panicing about the extremes i have no clue of ..XD
5:20 party finder just feels way more "direct" ... i dont like the feature .. cant even really say why xD it works like the same way the duty finder works just with the difference that you can set your own rules for pretty much everything ... at the same time thats one reason why its more complicated for a beginner in that feature ... if you just scroll through the party finder list 80% of it read like this "you have no clue what im talking about" ... just with different letters ..xDD
whoa! two cleared extremes, that's a great achievement
Also hello from the red mage from M2n earlier this afternoon, didn't notice till mid fight and you were gone before I could say hi xD
So quickly too! 😁
Right! That was a fun one as well! I'm sorry I ran fast! 😅 Hello! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh no worries, keep grinding that mentor roulette!
We did extreme Ravana(Zenit in german) and no matter how often we wrote, the dds and second tank still attacked the 3 way shield >< In duty it seems like, that the players love to ignore chat. For us it was the first time extreme Ravana, and the moment we were inside the duty, we immidiatly asked what to do.
Oh No... Yeah if there's people in the group that just don't listen when they do a mechanic wrong, it can be hard to progress 😰
@@CaetsuChaijiCh we just lucked out in one round and won, but sometimes this is just frustrating >< We went to extreme moogle king and after one round about half the team left, without hearing the explenation of the one guy who knew what to do, luckily the ones who joined listened and it was with them a first try
I would love to do mentor roulettes, but I am pretty scared of the extremes and savages. Having played for only a couple of years (joined in EW) means I did all of those unsynced with the help of a friend since nobody wanted to do them synced anymore. Not really sure how to learn the mechanics of these earlier extremes without actually doing it first.
I actually learned how to do both titan and ramuh extreme properly when I got them in Mentor Roulette! The important part here is being willing to learn! Depending on the group, you might even have time to look up the mechanics if no one else knows what to do either! You're not expected to be a master when doing mentor roulette, so just try your best to be helpful and it will be fine!
Also, savage and coils of bahamut in general are NOT in Mentor Roulette, just extremes! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Oooh, I thought it would be sort of expected of me to know all the mechanics right off the bat! I am definitely willing to learn and even do a little research in the first few minutes of the duty. Also I thought savage raids are part of it as there's still a few duties I've yet to complete to unlock mentor and I haven't done some of the older savages. Thank you!
@codsamanta i actually have a video where I talk about what a mentor is and what is expected of them if you are curious 😊
Both in terms of what the game expects, and also just... What a mentor is and means! 😁
Here is a link in case you are interested! ua-cam.com/video/f0lKISN_WxU/v-deo.htmlsi=vYolh4mjZY1qZIxp
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Thank you! That is very useful! I will check it out!
Honestly, for Ramuh, unless only 1 person does extra orb cleanup only, the group should just leave the orbs alone. Yeah Ramuh does more damage but I can't count the frustration when tanks can't swap because the group stole the orbs they require. If you don't have acute awareness of everything going on in the fight from EVERYONEs PoV, touching those orbs usually leads to a wipe in some form if you have no business touching them.
Ranty, but that fight ticks me off as a tank with aggressive players that don't understand the entire state of that fight as they would need to have when interacting with those orbs.
Definitely! That's also why I often quietly "forget" to mention this need to keep the orb count down when explaining the fight in groups, so I have the ability to control it on my own if possible! 😂
god watching you hard greed the red girl chains and pop was so funny. i'm glad it's not just me :')
Imagine tipping my camera to be sure I saw it right! 😂 Too busy punching!
does arm's length work for forced march mechanics? i never tried.
It does not, as they are not knockbacks! 😅
To this day I cannot understand any mechanics in the 3rd raid of nier
the thing about rathalos ex is that 1) it has unique mechanics that are completely unlike anything else in ffxiv, and 2) it absolutely fucking sucks. I support anyone leaving that nonsense immediately
Is there a monk guide coming soon?
Tomorrow 😉
There's a schedule on the community page on the channel, on the discord server and pinned on the x account 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Very soon then😁 Thanks for the quick answer☺️
I have 5k hours in FFXIV. I have not unlocked a single guildhest. I feel like I'm doing a service here!
One day I suppose it'll have to happen, at least if you want to unlock mentor roulette one day! 😅
(but that's also very different from spamming it just to get comms and what not!)
@@CaetsuChaijiCh The only thing besides guildhests in my way are ShB extremes.
While I admit watching this series has made me consider opening the roulette for, uh... "content purposes", I feel like I'd stop as soon as I get two guildhests back-to-back
Yea finally I am first
Nice video as usual. I find your voice really relaxing 😊
The inclusion of sound effects is a nice touch during the play by play to follow the action. But could you tune down their volume just a bit please
Thank you very much! 😁
Yes I could! I will try to keep it in mind in future videos, I may have overshot the volume in the aim of making sure they don't disappear in the background 😅
Monk taaaank ✊
Looking at your red girl fight, I'm wondering if they've made more improvements to the visuals to make it less of an epilepsy trigger (or if the lighting update helped.... hmm). The wall insta-kill aoe certainly looks less (visually) painful than it used to be, and whilst those chains and floor aoes are definitely pushing up against the risk for me, they look... less immediately migraine inducing than they used to be. (It used to be *the quickest trigger I have ever found* which was a big (if incredibly annoying) achievement)
I might have to give it a go next time (with meds on hand), because it would be *great* if I didn't need to die and hide outside the room for one of the boss fights... (and, more importantly, it would mean I could start queuing alliance/mentor roulettes as healer/tank, because I've never been willing to risk leaving the alliance without one of those during Red Girl).
Oh also my times for tower range 33-47m, averaging 42 (but again, that's missing a dps for red girl *every time*)
Wow yeah that is certainly a problem! :/ Hopefully this helped but I do think it is just lighting changes for the most part! Who knows if that is enough though!
yeah while rathalos doesn't have a tank buster... the big add does :P
No one expected Garula with a steel chair! 🤣
Here we have the guildhests again lol
There must always be guildhests it seems! 😂
@@CaetsuChaijiCh yup