7:05 I'm glad Dawntrail brought back this mechanic. Tanks need to learn to actually tank and it's pretty obvious from some of them that they were either carried in their early levelling experience or... just simply forgot how to tank in ARR/HW.
11:30 I feel Syrcus Tower needs to be rebalanced so people can't just faceroll the mechanics. It's the first time some of them show up and they should really know when something will end up being deadly later on in the game...
Yeah things like line of sighting is rarely helpful in modern dungeons! Even in dt ones, usually there's too few ranged mobs to require it! 😅 But it's at least something! I agree that it would be nice to buff crystal tower a bit, but I'd also be up for maybe a pass to see if it needs a bit of updating in general since, as you say, it's the introduction to that type of content!
I'm not entirely sure when they added it either, I just know they both did that, and gave it a bit of a power boost, so it is like... On the cusp of being half decent as a move if you have some sort of synergy 😅 You're welcome!
12:33 I don't think I've ever gotten that duty in roulettes so it's nice to finally learn the mechanics for it. Also, I'm kinda jealous of the shield that the mammet puts out. I wonder if they're a scholar lol.
I just noticed one of my friends being your tank for Sohm Al, she only started playing Gunbreaker because of the cpose being Lightning's from FF13. I'm glad she is doing well playing my favorite class.
Oh I know, but the power of the move has been improved over the years, and there is also the hilarious detail that kangaskhan doesn't have the option to pick rapid spin, so we won't know for sure, maybe it would be a good speed boosting option, although a viper pokemon would probably be fast enough to not justify something like agility anyway 😂
8:03 I thought this too when levelling bard when DT released. Wide volley looks so much cooler than its upgrade and I kind of wish they swapped places or there was a way to revert skill animations without 3rd party tools.
leveling dungeon day (mostly) nice. regarding the 1st duty where you said you didnt see much reprisal/arms length use the tank wouldnt have access to them as reprisals 22 and arms lenght is in the 30's iirc. Finally if im tanking a low level dungeon on 1 of my low level tanks, if i dont know the healer i'd usually pull 2 or 3 packs depending on the dungeon with me considering pulling w2w i i know the healer is capabl of keeping me up. the probable exception to that would be stone vigil boss 2-3 mega pull as i doubt i'd survie in level 41 geat regardless if i knew the healer.
Role actions are available as long as you leveled the job past the requirement, even when synced down! Which means this argument would apply if their job was Actually below those level thresholds! I am pretty sure they were above but late to check now I suppose! 😅 Yeah the giga pulls in stone vigil are very difficult even with a pre-made group I would say! 😁
Recently I was tanking (warrior) Halatali Hard. By accident all my other team mates died during the first boss. They didn't stand in the shield circle and got hit by other stuff. So I ended up doing it solo. Of course I heard your voice in my head: "did you know that warrior can solo Halatali Hard"😂. Tbf doing the boss solo was really easy
Role actions are weird: if the job you used is high enough level outside the duty, then you can use them anyway, which means a dark knight would always have reprisal, and perhaps they were completely fresh and not level 32 outside yet, in which case no arms length would be justified! 🤔😊 But yeah role actions stay when synced down!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh fair, that explains why I was confused that my Paladin which I had already maxed out could use Reprisal in Tam-Tara while my Warrior that I recently levelled through it could not.
Ancient Quaga does Your Max Health amount of damage, which means if your health is full, having any amount of shield is enough to survive it (however "damage reduction" mitigation does _not_ work). I like to abuse this fact on any job with a personal shield (for example, Pictomancer) just to keep things interesting for the healers 😈 Personally, I'd like to see the stack markers in the Xande fight apply a magic vuln like most later multi-stacks do to immediately teach people to not stack stacks.
Right! And I would also like to see that. Personally I would like it to be meaner than that, and have ONE of the stack marker sets (like the second set in the fight) have this effect, and not each one, to really teach players what the difference is 😂
They really need to remove the quests to beat the early extreme fights. I feel like a lot of sprouts see a shiny blue quest and assume they need to do it. They should just be instant "talk to dude and unlock" like modern extremes.
No Over the Leather Chest? My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined 😔 seriously tho these are always so interesting and informative, love this series❤
You commented both on the guy running for a big pull, and the one going pack by pack I have to ask; which do you prefer really? Sprint so the healer sprints and then one defense ability is what Ive heard since Jesus was born, but you seem to have a different opinion to every approach 🤔
Using sprint to pull with is optimal as it means enemies get less hits on you while you pull 😊 A bigger pull means the duty ends faster, and is often more exciting 😊 Maintaining at least one defensive (possibly more at higher level) once you reach your destination is often the best choice too 😊 I don't complain if a tank pulls slowly if it is clear they aren't ready for more 😉
I'm only one thinking that being tank is most intimidating job/activity in the game? I started playing FF14 as a healer and always having blast even when making mistakes on unknown mechanics. But trying as a tank to level up my healer game? I was struggling in sastasha... Honestly, I think that being "leader" is just not for me.
It is certainly a different experience and the best I can offer is that I actually made a video with suggestions to overcome this kind of fear - although no one ever said you had to tank! Here is a link if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/uT_0jjJ-7iE/v-deo.htmlsi=ztMca11dRfDIqbRw
On the whole tank thing, i think the problem is what youre used to, ie always wall to wall pulling, goes against what other games like wow or even eso teach. Its because in those games a. Certain tanks (warrior and kind of paladin lmao jesus chrisr) arent living gods that with any basic game knowledge are in virtually no danger for those types of pulls b. The mobs in 14 do....very little to actually be threatening for the most part. Group wide damage dosent exist and well there are random tankbusters, thats mostly at low level and i havent seen them appear in dt or even endwalker at all. Ranged mobs requiring LoS only appear in vanguard for current xpack content...tl;dr: sqe where are my bees
I mean I know at least in wow you also pull big, but the difference there is you don't wall to wall unless you completely dwarf the dungeon in power, which I guess is a bit rare at times? 🤔😊 And I know this because I've been the big pulling tank in at least classic wow, original wrath, original cata, mop, and legion 😁 I could imagine there would be far less reason to pull big in wow these days since most attacks have a damage drop off if it hits more than five targets now, but that would of course have a similar effect in ffxiv if implemented! Why pull 10 if you already max out your damage at 5?🤔😊
@CaetsuChaijiCh oh yeah that's also part of it. Most large pulls these days are either only possible with full cds and heroism (or bloodlust)and some classes like enhance shammy and fury warrior are hard capped to 5 for most of their damage, unlike any class in 14 really. And eso also has dangerous areas because aoe threat and proper mob gathering by the tank is far more difficult then in wow or 14. New tanks from other games probably don't know when their dps gets their aoe, or if it's capped at all, so it's a safer bet to play it safe rather then loose the bet that the dps can kill it in time....and then you have people who have never tanked before in their lives and think large pulls need a certain amount of gear to be possible.
If I can be completely honest, seeing tanks take mobs one or two packs at a time has become weirdly refreshing to me lol Does feel like since the middle of endwalker that speedrunning has become the default and maybe even what’s like… expected of you? And I honestly don’t like that. I don’t know that I would have fallen in love with the game if that was my experience as an all new player. Idunno, are people just less patient now? Thinking about this in relation to the leaving duties issue too.
It's not too bad haha, in most of the situations I had to cast a thing a Scholar probably would too, although their pet would continue to help unlike kardia 😂
5:09 Using defensive CDs exclusively on bosses in a dungeon is a truly diabolical way to play a tank from a healer's perspective, lol. I guess they didn't want the healer to feel bored in a low-level duty.
It is quite cruel haha! I think usually for newer players the logic is to save the big cooldowns for the big enemies, like bosses! So it sounds reasonable! Some dps also save their big cooldowns for bosses (which is also equally a bad idea!) I just didn't even realize how bad these cases were until after when I reviewed the footage! Otherwise I might have said something 😂
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Yeah, I think the Hall of Novice should be a bit clearer with this stuff, to make sure new players understand that in dungeons, the trash deals the most unavoidable damage, and the boss damage is either negligible or avoidable. As SCH, in dungeons, I never have to heal on most dungeon bosses myself (let Selene handle it) if the rest of the party knows the duty. But, I understand it, many new players just want to play and don't read the tooltips or don't think too much about it. When it happens at level 70+, it's more concerning. 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh I now know by experience that the part of dungeons that needs the most mit and healing is the wall to wall pulls, but it still strikes me as very odd how the dungeon "bosses" are the easiest part of the dungeon.
7:32 The first time I did this dungon I had already reached lvl 50 and was on 2.X quests. So when I ended up getting this quest when queueing the team I got speed through killing both bosses that when I got some new tanks (I was lvling up Archaist > scholar and ninja vs I main PLD rn) that ran it I had to figure out on the fly what the sparking plans do. 13:21 Lol my team whipped in this dungeon to that boss. After that we went “oh the orbs” and then cleared in fast.
They really should change Parental Bond, not that it's officially supported anymore, anyway lol. I think having the second hit not able to proc additional effects past just damage (like Sheer Force without the dmg boost) would be a bit more balanced? In any case Fire+Ice+Thunder Fang might work well for Viper's coverage moves (yeah I know not game accurate but ehh) as well as Metal Claw.
Sorry about that, looking it through I could certainly had set the audio louder! 😅 It seemed perfectly normal to me at first glance but I guess I play the game at pretty low volume normally I guess 😅
I kinda wish I knew why they changed the way the multiple stack ups work in Syrcus Tower. Before the icon change, stacking those markers was absolutely a bad idea and would kill anyone standing in more then one. But when they changed them, they suddenly did less damage, and that to me just seems like a bad idea. It teaches people they can, and probably even should, stack multiple stack up markers when they come up. But in just about every other piece of content with them, that'll typically ensure a party wipe.
I can say confidently that you could still overlap them before they changed them to the more inviting modern stack markers. It is possible they nerfed them, but before that point, they still didn't apply a magic vulnerability effect, so the math presented still applied (sharing 3 times more damage with 3 times more players is still the same damage). Although yes, because people were more likely to run away with the scary markers, or run away from them, it was more likely very few players would be present in one of the stacks! Aside from that, I do agree that it is quite silly that the first opportunity to teach players not to overlap stack markers, they just... Dont!
The thing is about Xande's stacks, ancient quakega, the cyclopse, the catoblepas is that when these 1st came out you couldn't cheese any of these things. That and with low enough ilv you also still can't cheese them as you won't have enough hp to survive. With good enough dps I know in the past you could kill the catoblepas without breaking its horn. Not sure if they've changed it now or not.
Well the thing is, I still stand that the stack doesn't do more damage when overlapped so I can't imagine that changed much unless they outright nerfed it (which is possible of course!) The rest i absolutely agree, they got beaten by gear! 😂 For the horn, I think we had no issues killing it without caring about the horn, although it seemed to get hit just the same!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh it's not so much as it got nerfed but the ilv most people used to go into wasn't as high. As back then not everyone was wearing a full set of ilv130 gear or a higher ilv just synced down. As stacking them would cause deaths. I still see a dps or healer die to ancient quakega if they're a fresh-ish lv 50. Same kind of thing would happen in Titan Hard mode back in the day where anyone who didn't have a high enough ilv would just die to the later stomps no matter how much healing was done. It was even more frustrating when it would be dragoons and monks dying as for a long time they were the two dps with the highest hp and thus could still survive with a slightly lower ilv. Unless again they were a very fresh lv 50 who hadn't kept up on their upgrades.
@@tazersmurf4689 Unless Ancient Quagas mechanics were changed, surviving it was never about item level, as (currently) it acuatly deals unmitigatable percentage based damage (I think it was 100% of your max hp, but don't quote me on that). So any job at 100% with a shield can survive it, but they will drop extremely low. Back when healers were weaker on average, I would assume healing that up would have been a major issue. Its been over half a year since I tested around with Xandes mechanics, so I am not 100% sure how exactly it works anymore, so take this with a grain of salt
IIRC, Wide Volley used to be the upgrade from Quick Nock and it was unlocked at.... level 45 or so? I'm not sure why they didn't just re-implement it exactly how it used to be tbh. It's so mean that they finally gave it back to us only for it to only be available at low levels.
@titaniumvulpes wide volley used to be an alternative to quick nock that applied a debuff to enemies and cost more tp and stuff. But you had both options, and given the different properties of each you had reason to use both in different situations! 😅
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A no guild heists in mentor roulette is always a good day.
Exactly! Can't complain, at least no under the armor!
Parental bond Power-up punch - I hoped that nightmare was over and not coming back.
Also now on a fighting type! 🤣
And not gated behind a Mega, either!
7:05 I'm glad Dawntrail brought back this mechanic. Tanks need to learn to actually tank and it's pretty obvious from some of them that they were either carried in their early levelling experience or... just simply forgot how to tank in ARR/HW.
11:30 I feel Syrcus Tower needs to be rebalanced so people can't just faceroll the mechanics. It's the first time some of them show up and they should really know when something will end up being deadly later on in the game...
Yeah things like line of sighting is rarely helpful in modern dungeons! Even in dt ones, usually there's too few ranged mobs to require it! 😅 But it's at least something!
I agree that it would be nice to buff crystal tower a bit, but I'd also be up for maybe a pass to see if it needs a bit of updating in general since, as you say, it's the introduction to that type of content!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh True! There's still a bunch of weird obscure stuff in especially LOTA that's no longer relevant...
I didn't even know that they added a speed boost to rapid spin, seems as of gen 8; thank you for teaching me a pokemon fact I didn't know, haha
I'm not entirely sure when they added it either, I just know they both did that, and gave it a bit of a power boost, so it is like... On the cusp of being half decent as a move if you have some sort of synergy 😅
You're welcome!
12:33 I don't think I've ever gotten that duty in roulettes so it's nice to finally learn the mechanics for it. Also, I'm kinda jealous of the shield that the mammet puts out. I wonder if they're a scholar lol.
I just noticed one of my friends being your tank for Sohm Al, she only started playing Gunbreaker because of the cpose being Lightning's from FF13. I'm glad she is doing well playing my favorite class.
Aha! That is an interesting motivation, hopefully they have fun with the job too! 😊
I'd say Rapid Spin counts as a defensive move, no one uses it for the speed boost, it's there to clear away entry hazards.
Oh I know, but the power of the move has been improved over the years, and there is also the hilarious detail that kangaskhan doesn't have the option to pick rapid spin, so we won't know for sure, maybe it would be a good speed boosting option, although a viper pokemon would probably be fast enough to not justify something like agility anyway 😂
8:03
I thought this too when levelling bard when DT released. Wide volley looks so much cooler than its upgrade and I kind of wish they swapped places or there was a way to revert skill animations without 3rd party tools.
It’s not just you. Wide Volley > Shadowbite (And in my opinion, Quick Nock > Ladonsbite)
leveling dungeon day (mostly) nice. regarding the 1st duty where you said you didnt see much reprisal/arms length use the tank wouldnt have access to them as reprisals 22 and arms lenght is in the 30's iirc.
Finally if im tanking a low level dungeon on 1 of my low level tanks, if i dont know the healer i'd usually pull 2 or 3 packs depending on the dungeon with me considering pulling w2w i i know the healer is capabl of keeping me up. the probable exception to that would be stone vigil boss 2-3 mega pull as i doubt i'd survie in level 41 geat regardless if i knew the healer.
Role actions are available as long as you leveled the job past the requirement, even when synced down! Which means this argument would apply if their job was Actually below those level thresholds! I am pretty sure they were above but late to check now I suppose! 😅
Yeah the giga pulls in stone vigil are very difficult even with a pre-made group I would say! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Fun Fact DRK starts at level 30! so they would absolutely have access to those skills!
Recently I was tanking (warrior) Halatali Hard. By accident all my other team mates died during the first boss. They didn't stand in the shield circle and got hit by other stuff. So I ended up doing it solo. Of course I heard your voice in my head: "did you know that warrior can solo Halatali Hard"😂. Tbf doing the boss solo was really easy
Parental Bond no longer doubles the secondary effect like a stat increase. (Gen 9; if you add it to an existing Pokemon)
Interesting so they already nerfed it in the way someone else suggested here as well 😅
1:15 you don´t have reprisal and arm´s length until 22 and 32 respectively, as shown in the tooltips you showed 😅
Role actions are weird: if the job you used is high enough level outside the duty, then you can use them anyway, which means a dark knight would always have reprisal, and perhaps they were completely fresh and not level 32 outside yet, in which case no arms length would be justified! 🤔😊
But yeah role actions stay when synced down!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh fair, that explains why I was confused that my Paladin which I had already maxed out could use Reprisal in Tam-Tara while my Warrior that I recently levelled through it could not.
Ancient Quaga does Your Max Health amount of damage, which means if your health is full, having any amount of shield is enough to survive it (however "damage reduction" mitigation does _not_ work). I like to abuse this fact on any job with a personal shield (for example, Pictomancer) just to keep things interesting for the healers 😈 Personally, I'd like to see the stack markers in the Xande fight apply a magic vuln like most later multi-stacks do to immediately teach people to not stack stacks.
Right!
And I would also like to see that. Personally I would like it to be meaner than that, and have ONE of the stack marker sets (like the second set in the fight) have this effect, and not each one, to really teach players what the difference is 😂
They really need to remove the quests to beat the early extreme fights. I feel like a lot of sprouts see a shiny blue quest and assume they need to do it. They should just be instant "talk to dude and unlock" like modern extremes.
Yeah that might help a bunch for some sprouts at least! I know some feel compelled to queue simply to get the quest out of their log 😅
Beginner tanks should try to chain pull, if W2W seems to scary
That could work! Personally I would recommend trying to pull two packs and then like, work your way up to just rushing through eventually! 😁
No Over the Leather Chest? My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined 😔 seriously tho these are always so interesting and informative, love this series❤
Maybe next time?! 😅
I'm glad to hear that! Thank you so much! 😄🥰
You commented both on the guy running for a big pull, and the one going pack by pack I have to ask; which do you prefer really? Sprint so the healer sprints and then one defense ability is what Ive heard since Jesus was born, but you seem to have a different opinion to every approach 🤔
Using sprint to pull with is optimal as it means enemies get less hits on you while you pull 😊
A bigger pull means the duty ends faster, and is often more exciting 😊
Maintaining at least one defensive (possibly more at higher level) once you reach your destination is often the best choice too 😊
I don't complain if a tank pulls slowly if it is clear they aren't ready for more 😉
@@CaetsuChaijiCh fair enough. Might just have sounded conflicting to me then since I'm in no way a tanker in this game
I dont have combat numbers visible, so I don't see damage numbers or invulnerable.
:P
Well that also sounds suboptimal! 😂
I'm only one thinking that being tank is most intimidating job/activity in the game? I started playing FF14 as a healer and always having blast even when making mistakes on unknown mechanics. But trying as a tank to level up my healer game? I was struggling in sastasha... Honestly, I think that being "leader" is just not for me.
It is certainly a different experience and the best I can offer is that I actually made a video with suggestions to overcome this kind of fear - although no one ever said you had to tank!
Here is a link if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/uT_0jjJ-7iE/v-deo.htmlsi=ztMca11dRfDIqbRw
On the whole tank thing, i think the problem is what youre used to, ie always wall to wall pulling, goes against what other games like wow or even eso teach. Its because in those games a. Certain tanks (warrior and kind of paladin lmao jesus chrisr) arent living gods that with any basic game knowledge are in virtually no danger for those types of pulls b. The mobs in 14 do....very little to actually be threatening for the most part. Group wide damage dosent exist and well there are random tankbusters, thats mostly at low level and i havent seen them appear in dt or even endwalker at all. Ranged mobs requiring LoS only appear in vanguard for current xpack content...tl;dr: sqe where are my bees
I mean I know at least in wow you also pull big, but the difference there is you don't wall to wall unless you completely dwarf the dungeon in power, which I guess is a bit rare at times? 🤔😊
And I know this because I've been the big pulling tank in at least classic wow, original wrath, original cata, mop, and legion 😁
I could imagine there would be far less reason to pull big in wow these days since most attacks have a damage drop off if it hits more than five targets now, but that would of course have a similar effect in ffxiv if implemented! Why pull 10 if you already max out your damage at 5?🤔😊
@CaetsuChaijiCh oh yeah that's also part of it. Most large pulls these days are either only possible with full cds and heroism (or bloodlust)and some classes like enhance shammy and fury warrior are hard capped to 5 for most of their damage, unlike any class in 14 really. And eso also has dangerous areas because aoe threat and proper mob gathering by the tank is far more difficult then in wow or 14. New tanks from other games probably don't know when their dps gets their aoe, or if it's capped at all, so it's a safer bet to play it safe rather then loose the bet that the dps can kill it in time....and then you have people who have never tanked before in their lives and think large pulls need a certain amount of gear to be possible.
If I can be completely honest, seeing tanks take mobs one or two packs at a time has become weirdly refreshing to me lol
Does feel like since the middle of endwalker that speedrunning has become the default and maybe even what’s like… expected of you? And I honestly don’t like that.
I don’t know that I would have fallen in love with the game if that was my experience as an all new player.
Idunno, are people just less patient now? Thinking about this in relation to the leaving duties issue too.
Algorithm comment! I do love this series, though.
I'm glad to hear that! Thank you! 😄
low level sage pretty bad. i had to spam heals.
well that goes for every healer except scholar. the best.
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eh, at least with adders gall it's quite comfy
It's not too bad haha, in most of the situations I had to cast a thing a Scholar probably would too, although their pet would continue to help unlike kardia 😂
5:09 Using defensive CDs exclusively on bosses in a dungeon is a truly diabolical way to play a tank from a healer's perspective, lol.
I guess they didn't want the healer to feel bored in a low-level duty.
It is quite cruel haha!
I think usually for newer players the logic is to save the big cooldowns for the big enemies, like bosses! So it sounds reasonable! Some dps also save their big cooldowns for bosses (which is also equally a bad idea!)
I just didn't even realize how bad these cases were until after when I reviewed the footage! Otherwise I might have said something 😂
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Yeah, I think the Hall of Novice should be a bit clearer with this stuff, to make sure new players understand that in dungeons, the trash deals the most unavoidable damage, and the boss damage is either negligible or avoidable.
As SCH, in dungeons, I never have to heal on most dungeon bosses myself (let Selene handle it) if the rest of the party knows the duty.
But, I understand it, many new players just want to play and don't read the tooltips or don't think too much about it. When it happens at level 70+, it's more concerning. 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh I now know by experience that the part of dungeons that needs the most mit and healing is the wall to wall pulls, but it still strikes me as very odd how the dungeon "bosses" are the easiest part of the dungeon.
THANK YOU for calling out wide volley having a cooler animation than shadowbite omg 😭😭😭😭😭
90% of my mentor roulettes are guildhest. These are quick and unengaging and outdated. Why are they still so popular?
7:32 The first time I did this dungon I had already reached lvl 50 and was on 2.X quests. So when I ended up getting this quest when queueing the team I got speed through killing both bosses that when I got some new tanks (I was lvling up Archaist > scholar and ninja vs I main PLD rn) that ran it I had to figure out on the fly what the sparking plans do.
13:21 Lol my team whipped in this dungeon to that boss. After that we went “oh the orbs” and then cleared in fast.
11:29 -- iirc Quaga does 100% of your max health in damage, meaning if you have a shield and stand off of the platforms, you'll survive
The time difference between single and w2w pulling probably grows exponentially as people keep unlocking stronger and stronger aoe options.
That, and also probably the more burst cooldowns they have!
Oh, nice thumbnail, what level does SGE get Final Flash?
I believe it's the same level they get swift cast! 😂
They really should change Parental Bond, not that it's officially supported anymore, anyway lol.
I think having the second hit not able to proc additional effects past just damage (like Sheer Force without the dmg boost) would be a bit more balanced? In any case Fire+Ice+Thunder Fang might work well for Viper's coverage moves (yeah I know not game accurate but ehh) as well as Metal Claw.
Yeah that is definitely a good suggestion for balancing it! 😊
And good suggestions for coverage moves too!
bro whats with the intro... sound was super super low
Sorry about that, looking it through I could certainly had set the audio louder! 😅
It seemed perfectly normal to me at first glance but I guess I play the game at pretty low volume normally I guess 😅
Did they change Thals Scepter? I thought you had to attack it before. I'm probably wrong though.
I couldn't possibly tell you! I hardly remember it! 😂
I kinda wish I knew why they changed the way the multiple stack ups work in Syrcus Tower. Before the icon change, stacking those markers was absolutely a bad idea and would kill anyone standing in more then one. But when they changed them, they suddenly did less damage, and that to me just seems like a bad idea. It teaches people they can, and probably even should, stack multiple stack up markers when they come up. But in just about every other piece of content with them, that'll typically ensure a party wipe.
I can say confidently that you could still overlap them before they changed them to the more inviting modern stack markers. It is possible they nerfed them, but before that point, they still didn't apply a magic vulnerability effect, so the math presented still applied (sharing 3 times more damage with 3 times more players is still the same damage).
Although yes, because people were more likely to run away with the scary markers, or run away from them, it was more likely very few players would be present in one of the stacks!
Aside from that, I do agree that it is quite silly that the first opportunity to teach players not to overlap stack markers, they just... Dont!
I really need to complete Ramuh extreme, i havent done any of the extreme trials yet, and need to finish the quest.
If you have a high level job you could also just unsync them quick to get the quest done, but doing them "properly" is probably more satisfying! 😊
Man i hate lighthouse...
Thats a random one to be reminded of! But I do know ridorana lighthouse is certainly not the most loved duty!
The thing is about Xande's stacks, ancient quakega, the cyclopse, the catoblepas is that when these 1st came out you couldn't cheese any of these things. That and with low enough ilv you also still can't cheese them as you won't have enough hp to survive. With good enough dps I know in the past you could kill the catoblepas without breaking its horn. Not sure if they've changed it now or not.
Well the thing is, I still stand that the stack doesn't do more damage when overlapped so I can't imagine that changed much unless they outright nerfed it (which is possible of course!)
The rest i absolutely agree, they got beaten by gear! 😂
For the horn, I think we had no issues killing it without caring about the horn, although it seemed to get hit just the same!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh it's not so much as it got nerfed but the ilv most people used to go into wasn't as high. As back then not everyone was wearing a full set of ilv130 gear or a higher ilv just synced down. As stacking them would cause deaths. I still see a dps or healer die to ancient quakega if they're a fresh-ish lv 50. Same kind of thing would happen in Titan Hard mode back in the day where anyone who didn't have a high enough ilv would just die to the later stomps no matter how much healing was done. It was even more frustrating when it would be dragoons and monks dying as for a long time they were the two dps with the highest hp and thus could still survive with a slightly lower ilv. Unless again they were a very fresh lv 50 who hadn't kept up on their upgrades.
@@tazersmurf4689 Unless Ancient Quagas mechanics were changed, surviving it was never about item level, as (currently) it acuatly deals unmitigatable percentage based damage (I think it was 100% of your max hp, but don't quote me on that). So any job at 100% with a shield can survive it, but they will drop extremely low. Back when healers were weaker on average, I would assume healing that up would have been a major issue. Its been over half a year since I tested around with Xandes mechanics, so I am not 100% sure how exactly it works anymore, so take this with a grain of salt
8:04 oh you think so as well
Indeed! 😂
I guess the huge jump looks a bit silly considering the aoe centers way further away, but still!
IIRC, Wide Volley used to be the upgrade from Quick Nock and it was unlocked at.... level 45 or so? I'm not sure why they didn't just re-implement it exactly how it used to be tbh. It's so mean that they finally gave it back to us only for it to only be available at low levels.
@titaniumvulpes wide volley used to be an alternative to quick nock that applied a debuff to enemies and cost more tp and stuff. But you had both options, and given the different properties of each you had reason to use both in different situations! 😅