I like hearing these talks but with respect and love he tip toes around questions sometimes. As a believer I do Love how he tries to bring clarity and he does a good job. Certain things in regards to this conversation. Circumsion was not done away with it was redefined expanded on. Jesus clearly said I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill - Means to complete. Abolish means or is defined as formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution Colossians 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, Baptism. The Covenant was circumcision of the flesh before but now is of the Spirit through water. Not Abolished but New You can not confuse the 10 Commandments which it still stand today. With Moses 610 commands. Jesus himself said you hearts were harden so Moses allowed you to divorce.... Moses gave the people what they wanted but it was not God's ultimate will. Moses had authority at the time but Jesus defined what God's will is and he claimed Authority. He did not change His Father's Word. Why would he say vengeance is mine. Vengeance is not required if no Law is broken? Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. By nullify the Comandments you are saying he has no reason that there are no abominations unto the lord. Idoltors will get into heaven. Murderers. Thieves. Ect. Even after they Repent accept Jesus and are Baptized. They can keep sinning because its of no effect. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight. Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished. Gods Law are in complete effect as we speak and for the last 2000 years incorporated into our laws. Murder still a crime a Commandment. Stealing still a crime A Commandment Embezzlement Fraud both in effect Ect. Also Against another Human If the world continues to be corrupt like it is now 2020 and do allow a Legal purge like killing Christians. Look at History the Holocaust government sanctioned. Would you kill? Because the Commandments are not in effect and the government sanction it? Think about this. More than likely you won't because you know its wrong but lukewarm "Christians with this Law is not in affect only Grace with no change" probably will kill. For defense or survival. Domt go off to Far the Popes support for Homosexual acceptance. Why are people resisting if the Law is not in effect? You can keep all 10 Comandments. You dont want to because you were taught not to. Unbias believer dont find it difficult. They were never taught to disregard them. In the past they needed to in order to be saved. Jesus died for us and paid the price . The perfect Lamb not just for Jews but the whole World. We are saved only through Grace and not religious practices that justify Crusades, kkk, Salvery, concentration camps, hewbrew Israelites ect. All do religious practices or other wise man made things and teachings. Following Commandments is ordained by God and Supported by Jesus. Even the disciples kept them. They taught against the 610 that the Jews try to enforce on to the Greeks. Law keeping will come easily and is not work when you Love God with all you heart and Your neighbor. Food laws are for your benefit they will not save you but will help you. You can not truly belive that pork and shellfish, reptiles ect will make you healthier. Why do you think people are attempting to eat cleaner? health benefits. That come with eating certain food and staying away from others. Where did covid come from? Where do certain diseases come from certain food. Swine flu. Stop and think. The 2 commands given by Jesus incorporated all the Commandments. "If you love me keep my Commandments" 1st and greatest is LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, SOUL MIND AND STRENGTH This One covers all 4 1. “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Me.” Idoltors, pride, ect 2.“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” People who curse and use his name 3. “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” This is the one people fail due to this teaching of no Law. Then you Have the Sunday vs Saturday battle. “Honor thy father and mother.” Don't curse or mistreat parents. Tell me is it really hard to complete this when you are a true believer? This is easy with the renwal of our minds and hearts. Then you have LOVE THY BROTHER AS THYSELF This covers these 6 5 “Thou shalt not kill.” This is not hard many do this everyday who are not even saved. 6“Thou shalt not commit adultery.” People struggle but belivers can absolutely avoid this 7“Thou shalt not steal.” You dont need to do steal. Most people don't and a true believer would not take what is not his 8“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” In court you can't do it so believers should find this easy 9“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife" Adultery lust with eyes like Jesus said 10“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.” Again same as above Think about it you do most of them without thinking. He never got rid of it. It doesn't negate what he did. We honor our Father by doing what he ask from the beginning. Just don't do it thinking you will be saved. If we fail we no longer need a lamb to be sacrificed we can pray to God though Jesus. Not a regular man or through religious practice to correct our ways so we don't fail again. If you break any one of these you break his 2 Comandments Therefore you dont love him because "If you love [HIM] me keep [HIS] my commandments" Just like food laws they are for you benefits. Even if you are Christians but steal kill adultery you will pay the consequences on earth if not God will Judge you. Unless you repent and stop it. If you continue you will be in danger and there will be gnashing of teeth Last thought. In the future what will distinguish true belivers from lukewarm one? Or which God you serve under a Muslim ruled world? Or under a Coexist movement because they believe in one God or others? Or the Jesus that the world portrays on a cross with gold chains who only brings blessings? Only one God. The God Of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, The Father of Jesus our Lord and Savior. His Comandments his Mark that will be placed on your right hand and mind and on our Heart through Jesus. Exodus 13:9 And it shall serve as a SIGN to you on your HAND, and as a reminder on your FORHEAD, that the LAW of the Lord may be in your MOUTH; for with a powerful hand the Lord brought you out Egypt. The Word of God. His word. Jesus The mark of the beast is known through the world but this is God's Mark. The evidence is overwhelming. Continue to fight the good fight. But many things were not addressed. You will receive no condemnation for not doing them from me, or eating, or living your life. I do pray you just increase daily in your walk and realize what man made Doctrines are and what God's Word says are two different things. Be Blessed in Jesus name Amen.
The laws were never a means of salvation and Paul and the entire Bible make that clear when it explains that Noah and Abraham were saved due to their faith long before the Laws were introduced. The laws were brought about to set Israel apart from the rest of the world. Now we have the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit set us apart from the world. If you live by the spirit you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18
Dustin Hule I have been reading different comments about this and so confusing makes my head hurt and command was nice and simple lol and mad sense in Jesus name Amen 🙏
@@Desman228 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18) It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished. "Until the Heaven and Earth disappear" Earth is Still here.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18) It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished. "Until the Heaven and Earth disappear" Earth is still here. Old law still stands.
@@truman5838 I'm not here to debate you, not here to be to proud because I think I know it all. I am willing to listen ( Meekness) I hope you have that in you because no matter how much we think we know something, it's always someone out there who might know more, so by saying that we have to know when to rightly divide The word of truth (God) this is extremely important and in order to do so we have to except that Jesus Christ is our Lord and savior and allow the Holy Spirit to take over our flesh so we can live in the Spirit Hallelujah.. You sent me two scriptures talks about the Law of God. ok, Jesus came to fulfill them, From the Mosaic Law, we have MORAL LAW, we also have SACREFISIAL LAW, CEREMONIAL LAW they WAS GIVEN TO MOSES witch is of (WORKS) DIETARY LAW and JUDGEMENTAL LAW also. Now if you remember Moral Law was given to us in our heart in Genesis before the Mosaic Law in Exodus. Romans 5:13 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Mathew 22:-37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. So you are right when you state these Law. Buts it's about Moral Law the Law within not of works remember if you rightly devide the word of truth we have to live in the Spirit not the flesh Ephesians 2-9 said not of works lest anyone can boast BASICALLY God don't want you to take credit he gets all the Glory so if we do works to get to him he can't take any credit so the Law of works was fulfilled when he died on the cross. So my point in all of this is yes the Law but the Law to get to Christ is Moral Law the Law within not the Law of the flesh remember we are a SPIRIT we lives in the BODY and have a SOUL the devil and God is in are war in the earthly realm is fighting for the SOUL to choose the flesh ( devil) or (God) the SPIRIT, WE who is the SOUL ( Mind, will and emotions have to pick one the Spirit or the flesh so the Law of works means to DO SOMETHING TO GET TO HEAVEN Jesus Fulfilled that but the Moral Law of Christ is forever within.
@@truman5838 I send this to you in Love and respect my brother; Mathew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. PRECEPT: ROMAN:10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. GALATIANS 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. ACT 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be JUSTIFIED by the LAW of Moses. Isaiah 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Isaiah 53:11 meaning he will bear responsibility for our sins and he will justified many. MATHEW 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. PRECEPT: Luke 16: 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Yes I would understand why you would say what you said about these verses But the key to the Kingdom of God is to rightly divide his Words. Think about it SACRIFICIAL LAW is do away with didn't it? and HEAVEN and EARTH is still here ( praise God) 👏 so the question is what law he is talking about in MATHEW 5:18? OK let's go into the MOSAIC LAW; read Galatians 3 please 🙏 ask God to give you wisdom knowledge and revelation in the understanding of him he will guide you into rightly divide The word of truth (God) . If you also go into Mathew 22 the Law of Marriage it was changed but it was good also because it led us to Jesus Christ, so again witch LAW is he talking about in MATHEW 5:18? the answer is THE LAW OF LOVE HALLELUJAH!! The the Mosaic Law of works is NOT for YOU or ME TO GET TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN but does the Law of Moses good? yes it was! it lead us to Jesus Christ . The greatest commandments is You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. ' This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The law is good but not of works According to Ephesians.
If you continue the text that he uses, "What goes into a man doesnt defile him" he says that un washed hands has no effect on a man. He was dealing with a pharisaic law of washing hands before eating. He was dealing with the Pharisees making their own laws, not changing the Law.
Exactly! And Jesus continues to express ANGER at those who disobeyed Torah (Mk.7:8-9,13), thus proving that Jesus was NOT canceling anything in Torah. After all, Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19), and that includes Lev. 11! But it EXCLUDES silly anti-Torah traditions invented by religious people (Mk.7) regarding how one's hands should supposedly be washed. Good point!
Bible Guy so do you wear clothes made of two material? Or is it all the same material? That’s a command in Lev. 19. Have you ever trimmed your beard? Or your sideburns or hair? Or a big one, I guess you still sacrifice animals for every sin committed that requires sacrifice? Don’t you see how this defames the cross. Those things are holy according to romans 7. But the definition of Holy is to be set apart. Christ has a new covenant, and a new law. He sets us apart from this world. The only consistent way that the New T’estiment tells us to discern who is of Christ is those that preach the gospel of Jesus. That is the differentiator. We are no longer set apart by circumcision, or sacrificing animals to God in the temple. We don’t send goats out into the wilderness. Jesus has fulfilled the whole law. We have a new law, and new specific commands in Christ. And he even says, loving him entails following these commandments. But to subject ourselves to the old commandments that Jesus himself fulfilled is not only incorrect, it takes away from the Cross. And Paul says that many times if you would just read scripture
old covenant was fulfilled by coming of Messiah Jesus, Jesus was the end of the Law. By Jesus we are in a new covenant, with new promises: Holy Ghost and eternal life.
Don't be silly! The New Covenant is given as TORAH ("תּוֹרָה", Jer.31:33), so of COURSE we should obey it! Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19). Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16). The Holy Spirit leads us to obey ALL Torah (Heb.10:15-16), even all Torah ordinances (Eze.36:27), and the word of God [Torah!] "from now and forever" (Is.59:20-21). REPENT!
@@bibleguy9857 Do you light fires on Saturday? Do you crank your car on Satuday? Do you turn on the furnace or electricity on Saturday? Then you are breaking the Levitical law. Do you have any clothes that are made from more than one garment? (It's awfully hard to find such clothes nowadays.) Then you are breaking the Levitical law. Do you allow your wife to touch anything holy for 33 days after giving birth to a boy? (I guess she would be forbidden to touch a Bible for 33 days.) Then you are breaking the Levitical law.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh Light fires the way it would have been lighted in those days? Nope... And "crank your car" is not mentioned in Torah, silly billy! Still researching the clothes issue...trying to make sure I know the proper definitions of "צֶמֶר" and "פֵּשֶׁת". We grow in faithful obedience, one step at a time. "Then you are breaking the Levitical law." No. Torah makes provision for unintentional sin (e.g., Nu.15:25). Lev. 12? Well, the Messiah has not yet restored the Levitical service (Mal.3:4)...so there's only so much we can do while in diaspora (Jas.1:1). Don't worry! We WILL again obey 100% (Dt.30:1-8).
Why did Moses tell the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , that the LORD would raise up to them a prophet like unto him , that would give them all that they desired at Horeb or Mount Sinai ; and if they believe not the words that he would speak in his name , he will require it of them . What did they desire at Horeb or Mount Sinai ? Covenant ; and Jesus said the same thing in John 12:44-50 . When you say Jesus Christ is the end of the law for righteousness , do you fully understand what Jesus Christ came to do ? Jesus Christ is a sin sacrifice of faith ; repenting of your sins with a sorrowful heart like king David did , then believing by keeping his commandments ; which he received from the Father ( Mark 1:14-15 ; which is the gospel ) . If Jesus Christ is a sin sacrifice for the atonement of your sins , then the law you are talking about is also a sin sacrifice for sin . Jesus Christ is the end of the law of animal sacrifice for righteousness ; the sin atonement of the flesh for sin , through the mediator Moses , under the priesthood of Leviticus . The law of animal sacrifice was to clean the flesh , not the heart , because it was not of faith ( Repenting of your sins with a sorrowful heart , then believing by keeping the commandments of your mediator Jesus ; which he received from the Father ) ; but of works ( blood sacrifices and oblations ) . The new covenant is : To be under the mediator Jesus blood , you must live by faith ; that's why he said that he would put his laws into their minds , and write them in their hearts ; Not on two tablets of stone , and written in ink , in the book of the covenant . Moses gave the laws of God to the people on two tablets of stone and written in ink in the book of the covenant , but the children of Israel did not believe it ; with the mediator Jesus , you cannot come under his blood until you start keeping the words of the Father ( 1 John 1:5-7 ) . The new promises are eternal life with the Father and Son ( Revelation 22:14 ) .
This is the kind of philosophy about which Paul warned. "Fulfilling" means "fill to overflowing." It does NOT mean "to render void by virtue of accomplishment." He filled up the meaning of the Law by being the Passover Lamb. Acts 15:19-21 tells the new believers to obey 4 laws and continue to learn more. The 4 laws that must immediately be obeyed are, "abstain from pollutions of idols, fornication, eating strangled animals and eating blood." Abstaining from these 4 things are the minimum requirements needed before continuing to study. Moses is read in the synagogues every Sabbath. The pollution of idols would include erecting and decorating trees and observing other feasts of pagan gods, even if they were renamed to accommodate Jesus.
Acts 15 New King James Version (NKJV) 15 And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question. 3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and they caused great joy to all the brethren. 4 And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. 5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.” 6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”
Yes, according to what Act 15:1 establishes as the context, we do not need to be circumcised to be justified, and that is what the apostles decree. New believers don't need to take on the false gospel of Rabbinic Judaism which demanded circumcision as the means by which a gentile could convert to Judaism. This is NOT what God's Law requires though, in the Law the people were justified by faith , by the covenant that God made with Abraham - just as Paul teaches that we are justified by the covenant that God made with Abraham. It was Rabbinic Judaism that tried to make obedience to their perverted version of the Law given at Mt Sinai the means by which we are justified. we are not to seek to be justified by their law, also simply referred to in the NT as circumcision. In Gal 5:2 Paul talks about this ............""Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. "" It sounds pretty clear doesn't it. Or does it. Its interesting that bible teachers óften ONLY quote this verse as though it proves that Paul taught against believers getting circumcised in accordance with God's Law, but that is not ALL that Paul said, KEEP READING. Paul continues to clarify what he is teaching us about, it's not about how a justified -by -faith believer is meant to walk out their faith, it's about HOW A PERSON IS JUSTIFIED. Gal 5:3-4 ""And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, YOU WHO ATTEMPT TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; you have fallen from grace."................ Is it really intelectually honest to say that Paul is teaching that no one should get circumcised ever from proof texting Gal 5:2?
@@nvdxn Nice points! But notice that Paul requires justification by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) and GRACE (Rom.3:24) and in the SPIRIT (1Cor.6:11) and by works (says James, 2:24). Not Torah alone (sorry misguided Pharisees) Not faith alone (sorry Protestant Reformation!) Not grace alone (sorry John MacArthur) Not the Spirit alone (sorry Charismatics/Pentecostals) Not works alone (sorry "nice" people) But TOGETHER!
@@bibleguy9857 yes, I can see where you are going, as Paul teaches in Rom 2:13, those who are justified are not just hearers of the Law, they are doers of the Law. I would also agree that true faith is not just a belief in Jesus, but true biblical faith in the Scriptures is defined as obedience to His Word, as Paul also teaches us in Gal, the justified man lives by faith. However, in Gal Paul is teaching us that Rabbimic Judaism had exchanged the biblical definition of faith and the covenant God made with Abraham which is how we are justified for requiring people to get circumcised. Abraham had faith in God before he was circumcised, his circumcision was the SIGN of his faith. We are called to walk in the same steps of faith as Abraham who had faith without being circumcised, BUT Abraham did get circumcised in obedience to YHVH (Rom 4&Gen 26:5) . The justified person is not thumbing their nose at God's Law, the justified person is keeping it, just like Abraham
@@nvdxn Lots of good points, thanks! "The justified person is not thumbing their nose at God's Law, the justified person is keeping it, just like Abraham" Well, that's true IF the justified person is also choosing to literally do what Abraham also literally chose to do: ""[Abraham] obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.” (Ge.26:5). So, yes, we are justified/righteous by faith, immediately....BECAUSE we thus choose to subsequently grow in faithful obedience to ALL God's instructions available to us. And since the Torah of Moses (Jer.31:33) is given to CHRISTIANS in the New Covenant (cited at Heb.8:10;10:16), we righteous Christians should (like Abraham) choose to grow in faithful obedience to God's Torah available to us....ALL Torah (not just the 10 Commandments...) "BUT Abraham did get circumcised in obedience to YHVH" Right...but the ongoing mark of circumcision is INFANT circumcision (Ge. 17:12;Lev.12:3), NOT adult-male-gentile-convert circumcision, and I think this is why Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16;1Cor.7;19) while simultaneously opposing adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision (1Cor.7:19). blessings...
Liberty in Christ Jesus... walking in the Spirit of God, unceasingly prayerful with conviction. Colossians 3:17 New International Version (NIV) 17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. 🙏🔥🥰🛐✝️ Amen
well even pastors who studied the bible their whole lives never really understood the law either, they think it's gone and done away. Their Jesus came down to teach them how to break His own laws. Like the SABBATH and Food Laws. Here's what tho, the sabbath is binding for sure. How can it not be? It's in the 10 commandments!! Jesus even taught us how to keep it exactly. He did it by showing the people how He keeps it. And to do so, He had to oppose the tradition of the religious system in His time. Because the rabbis of His time destroyed the sabbath and made it a burden for the people instead of it being blessing. Now the Food Laws. It has nothing to do with salvation. But here consider this! The Food Laws IS GOD'S WISDOM SHARED TO US so that we would know what is and isn't good for our bodies. Take that principle and SEE FOR YOURSELF that God really cares for your well being. Yes, even up to the food you eat. Why wouldn't He share that? There weren't any Scientists or FDAs in those days to tell you that those meats are bad. And get this; would you slaughter and eat a RAT? For food? RATS and PIGS are in the same category by the way; UNCLEAN ANIMALS; UNCLEAN MEATS. And so is dogs meat, cats meat, snakes, and the like (Leviticus 11) So that said, please rethink your beliefs about things even as simple as food. Because God cares about your wellbeing. Why do u reject Him even in these things. He only wants the best for you. ...and then John Piper is just now adding "pork" in the letter to the corinthians. Even tho it isn't even there. But anyhow, JP can't even explain "If you love me, keep my commandments" either. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome" because we love God, we keep His commandments in our hearts and do them.
Yes, they did understand it. Obviously it was not meant to continue today. The meat laws were based on the assumption of meat NOT being cooked. Did you know that grasshoppers and frogs are kosher?
@@foolishdrunk2181 'the meat laws were based on the assumption of meat not being cooked' - have you got a verse for that? frogs are kosher? can you show the verse which says frogs are clean?
On this subject with the Old Testament law, are we supposed to tithe? If not, then we are still supposed to give each according to their heart since God loves a cheerful giver, which means there is no set percentage as to how much to give to the Lord.
Dave C john Macarthur has a good sermon on tithing. It's not a tenth, the tenth was actually a tax (since Isreal was a theocracy). Christians are required to give whatever they feel they can with gladness and fervency. Hope you can find his sermon!
TITHES should be given to the STOREHOUSE ("אוֹצָר", Mal. 3:10) which is not presently available. So we can't tithe according to Scripture, while in our present diaspora. We WILL again obey 100% of ALL Torah (Dt.30:1-8) when we return to inherit the land promised to us (Mt.5:5;Gal.3:29).
We can tithe if we choose, or give more than that if we choose, but tithing is a Levitical law and we are no longer REQUIRED to do it. We are required to give at least some monwy to help the poor.
Unfortunately John is painfully wrong on this with all due respect. He quotes Matthew 5 and then affirms the opposite of what Yashua is saying. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” So to John, to fulfil means destroy or abolish as other translations put it. The very thing He said he wasn’t doing. Yashua said “till heaven and earth pass away”. Heaven and Earth are still here! Nothing has changed when it comes to God’s Law. Yashua didn’t come to earth to destroy God’s perfect Law. Mark 7:14 -19 is talking about eating bread without washing your hands. The Pharisees based on the Talmud (their oral law/tradition) would wash their hands ceremonially before every meal. Yashua was attacking their tradition that they held in a higher view than the Word of God. This is not talking about pork. Read a few verses earlier for the context. John’s “key text” where Jesus declares all foods clean isn’t even in Bibles that are 60 years or older. That text is in parenthesis indicating it was added by the translator at some point. This view that John and most of Christianity holds (and I myself once held) makes Yashua a false prophet based on Duet 13. In this view He has taken away from God’s Law therefore disqualifying him from being the Messiah. All of the arguments or scriptures used against keeping God’s Law are taken out of context. Please test these things against scripture.
Mike M I don't see a problem with the arguments of John. Romans 7:1-6 and passages like Galatians 2:16 and the others he refered to must be enough to prove that christians are not supposed to live by the law of moses but by the law of the Spirit. Only those who have the Spirit of God abiding in them can accomplish this (Romans 8:9). And salvation is by grace, through faith in Jesus(Ephesians 2:8) with faith that works through love (Galatians 5:6) and love is the fullfillment of the law of moses (Romans 13:8-10). Blessing I pray God gives you understanding of his Word. Glory to God. Amen
I agree Mike. The Law is not done away with and still has its place in being a doer of the word. Sin is the transgression of the law, so saying there is no longer a law is to say there is no longer sin. There are so many ways of concluding that the law is not done away with. Did Jesus keep the law? Absolutely! Are we not called to do as Jesus did? Yes! Is the Holy Spirit from Almighty God? Would the Spirit of God move a believer to not keep His commandments or to want to obey as much as possible joyfully? Thank God for His commandments!
What do you think about the time Jesus told Peter to eat a bunch of unclean foods including pork? And the time Jesus said what goes into a person doesn’t defile him, but what comes out of his heart.
The whole point is to Love God and Love others. That is why Jesus said the Law and the prophets could be summed up in those two versus. Stop putting a yoke on peoples necks that no one can keep. That is the essence of Romans and Galatians. Live by the Spirit and you are not under the Law. Does anyone in these comments actually read their Bible? In the book of Acts God said not to call anything unclean that God cleansed. You have to understand why the Law was here and what it symbolized to realize why when Jesus came we came under a new Covenant. Read Jeremiah 31:31-34. Everyone in these comments speaks from ignorance and are trying to place people back under bondage. God said through Jeremiah 31:31-34 31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, [h]though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their [i]hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
have you read Acts? God didn't say not to call anything 'UNCLEAN' that he had cleansed. He said '"What God has cleansed you must not call COMMON." Acts 10:15 'COMMON' is not the same thing as 'UNCLEAN'
No. The Old Testament was a covenant between God and the nation of Israel. The New Testament is a covenant between God and ALL people. Peter, James and Paul advised the first-century church to unhitch from the law of Moses when it came to the Gospel being preached to Gentiles in Antioch...and the early Church and the disciples did NOT require the newly converted Gentiles to follow the laws in the Old Testament or Torah in order to join the church.
You are wrong.. The old covenant was between God and the nation of Israel.. The new Covenant is a covenant also between God and the nation of Israel.. Hebrew 8:8.. We Gentiles were grafted only to Israel on our faith..
@@koraegis Actually.....no. The New Covenant is ONLY between God and ISRAEL (Jer.31:31;Heb.8:8). Sure, ANYBODY is presently invited to join Israel. But when you become a believer, you are NOT EXCLUDED FROM ISRAEL (Eph.2:12). It's about joining ISRAEL. And in the future, we Israelites will be supreme above all other nations (as God has always intended).
@@yoboijerry5519 it says it in that passage - Mark 7 is about a tradition of the elders which was not one of God's Commandments Mar 7:1 Then the Pharisees and some of the scribes came together to Him, having come from Jerusalem. Mar 7:2 Now when they saw some of His disciples eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault. Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders. Mar 7:4 When they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other things which they have received and hold, like the washing of cups, pitchers, copper vessels, and couches. Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?" we know its not one of Gods commandments, its called a 'tradition of the elders', and because of what Jesus says about them rejecting God's Law in favour of obeying their own traditions Mar 7:6 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; Mar 7:7 in vain do they worship me, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ Mar 7:8 You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” Mar 7:9 And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! Jesus said we are not defiled if we don't wash our hands according to their tradition Mat 15:20b "But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”
We all have sinned and fell short of the glory to God. The problem is, that God is holy and doesn’t live with sin. So we all deserve to go to hell, but Jesus paid the price so you don’t have to. All you have to do is confess Jesus as your savior and repent (turn from all sin) and you’ll bs forgiven and on the way to heaven
Jesus came not to abolish the LAW but to set us free from the curse of it, which is to think we have to or need to do certain things to be acceptable to God thereby earning Gods salvation by works. i think it comes down to the person. I follow the dietary commands not because its law but because I like to please, and respect God.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18) It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished. "Not a a word of the law shall Change until the Heaven and Earth disappear" Earth is still here.we are still under the Old Law.
“Because every creature of God is good, and nothing to be thrust away, but having been received with thanksgiving;” - 1Tim 4:4 (LITV) “for through God's Word and supplication it is sanctified.” - 1Tim 4:5 (LITV)
No. The law spoke to sin producing in the believer a defiled conscience. Men laboured under a constant sense of guilt and shame and condemnation. They were never free in their spirit to serve the Living God. The Law resulted in spiritual bondage. (Gal 4:24). The “old way of the written code”, the old covenant, was a “ministry of death” in that it served to "bring forth fruit unto death". (2Cor 3:7; Rom 7:4-6). The “new way of the spirit”, the new covenant, was a “ministry of life”(2Cor 3:6). In that it served to "bring forth fruit for God". (Rom 7:6). The Spirit (of Grace) is Love. The Spirit spoke to the heart. It set free from a “defiled conscience”; from guilt and condemnation, and spiritual bondage. "For freedom Christ set men free" "to serve the living God" (Gal 5:1; 13; 2:19). What we see here is a change of status, positionally, before God, as far as God is concerned. No longer is there a consciousness of "sin-law-death-condemnation" to those in Christ Jesus; now there is a consciousness of "righteousness-grace-life-approval" (2Cor 5:21: Rom 5:18: 8:1-3) And that was truly liberating; setting believers free in the spirit of their minds to serve the Living God with joy and praise. There is no "sin-consciousness" in Christ thus there is no need for law in Christ.
I don't know what to believe. It seems like it depends on who I am listening to determines whether we can eat pork. Paul makes it seem like we can eat pork in Romans 14,however, Paul also makes it seem like we shouldn't (sin is breaking the law, and Paul says we shouldn't sin just bc grace abounds). Secondly, everyone has different opinions on what Jesus said. Some say we can eat pork bc of that passage in mark, and others say we can't bc of matthew 5. Lastly, Isaiah 66 prophecies that those who eat unclean animals will be killed. And revelation 18: 2 makes it seem like eating unclean animals is still wrong. Not to mention acts 15 says we don't have to follow the law. Can someone plz help me understand all of this!!!
Keep it simple, we are saved by grace through faith ALONE in Jesus Christ. The rest is extra. Not to say you shouldn't do these things, but what ever you do don't lose sight of the one who did it all and redeemed you by being the propritiation of all your sins (past, present and future). That being said strive for holiness and sanctification with christ in mind. Read the bible and pray over these things. I myself try not to eat anything listed in leviticus 11, however I am not obnoxious about it in gatherings with other believers, because it may lead them to be confused, or even worse to become legalistic. This race isn't a 100m dash, it's a marathon in which you will fall and seem to get lost. But you will realize that you have entered that race through the narrow gate and ran on the straight way when you put your faith in God to guide you on your way via his Holy Spirit. Just DONT LOSE SIGHT OF CHRIST. the rest will fall in place
Anepicflyingbrick _ Paul made it clear. Live by the Holy Spirit and you will no longer remain under the law because it will be written on your heart to Love God and Love others.
I love listening to Pastor John Piper. I respect and find his ministry helpful. With that I completely disagree and want to point out that the scripture text of Mark 15:19 does not say “thus he made all foods clean” that was added by the translators in the ESV bible John uses. It even says it was added on the ESV bible and that it is not what Jesus said. We as Christians must reject that added verse and not use it as a stepping stone to build the doctrine of eating what we please. Keep in mind Jesus speaking to his apostles taught them to keep the law of Moses and to take it to heart the things written by God. Very misleading and Pastor John should be rebuked for that. Let me add the verses in Galatians and Colossians doesn’t command to not obey laws for food. It’s specifically talking about trying to be justified by the law. That the law itself can not save you or you can not enter into God’s kingdom by circumcising yourself. You must trust in the work of Christ on the cross and his resurrection that is the body of Christ. The focus is Jesus Christ. Colossians 2:16 is speaking about let no one judge you for keeping what God has commanded. It later goes on to say that do not follow the teachings and commands of men. Keep in mind the laws in Torah where given to Moses by Almighty Godhead which Jesus was completely apart of not men. Please everyone relook at the verses with a more word for word text like KJV, MEV or NKJV. Don’t forget that the laws given to Moses where given by God. Don’t forget Jesus taught his disciples Torah principles. Don’t forget Paul is addressing a lot of issues going on during that time. God bless and test every spirit!!!
The key to understanding Paul in the NT is to slow down and read what he wrote more carefully. Actually the whole NT needs to be read more carefully. For example in Mark 7 how does the context go from eating bread with unwashed hands to suddenly the Messiah is supposed to be changing the food laws and declaring unclean animals to now be clean??? Obviously He did NOT do that, no where in Mark 7 or Matt 15 does it mention unclean animals, they were not the context of that passage. The irony is that in the 1920's that line about 'declaring all food is clean'got added to Mar 7 in an effort to prove that Jesus declared unclean animals to now be clean, BUT, the author of Mark was NOT a Gentile who calls every slug, snail, and lizard FOOD. In the bible when it comes to what animals God says we can eat , the clean animals that are defined as FOOD are listed in Lev 11, so I don't have any problem with someone inserting that sentence, becasue FOOD IS CLEAN according to Lev 11. Even when you eat it without washing your hands according to THE TRADITION OF THE ELDERS, hand washing is a MAN-MADE MADE UP LAW found in Rabbinic Judaism that is not found in God's Law. If you want to know more about the hand washing in Mark 7 I reccomend this video by an ex-Pharisee ua-cam.com/video/7TGGGkLLifc/v-deo.html
Nathanael Kelly There's a lot in his statements to unpack.. and to be honest because he ultimately 'lands the plane' in the right spot, i'm typically less concerned with the how he got there.. unless there's negative fallout from his statements.. Anyway, I think it's always a bad idea to go to food laws as a way to deal with legalism or still being 'under the law', two different things for a number of reasons. But I digress... ultimately his exposition of Mark 7 in my opinion is faulty in the declaration of all foods being clean. (he ignores the context found in v2) and the fact that if Jesus was declaring non-kosher food (pork) clean there and then, then he would be transgressing the Law. Changes in the food laws have always been per covenant, i.e. vegetarian (Adamic), All Animals (Noahic), Kosher (Moses) etc... and the covenant Jesus instituted was at his death and resurrection. Food was still a reasonable issue for the early church as you can see from Paul's writings but it certainly wasn't a non-issue per the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15). Which leads me to my main point which is the subtle language of Replacement theology. John Piper seems to paint a purely multi-ethnic view of the Body which is fine unless you miss the part where that Body is 'grafted' into the 'Commonwealth of Israel'. And this is where the damage is done. What to eat and what not to, is an issue not of salvation (which is not by works), but an issue for the Jewish Church if you will, where just as 'circumcision' continues to affirm Jewish identity keeping 'Kosher' also does for many. Let's face it our distinct identity is celebrated in Christ, not hidden. With the phenomenon of gentiles coming to Christ and what that would mean is ultimately why there was a council about it in Acts 15, and what would be right for gentiles to abstain from, including what they should or should not consume. Anyway.. as I said, he ultimately lands the plane on the runway of 'freedom from the law' which is where it should have landed.
stilgar74 what you say sounds good!.. Yea, i guess Mr. Piper didn't seem to give a general rule about which laws are still in effect. I'm pretty sure most Christians wouldn't throw out laws such as don't put your kid in the fire, or a man shouldn't sleep with his aunt, or laws such as not accepting gifts if you are a judge, or the law about enemy losing his ox (in our generation it might be a wallet).. you need to return it to him. (these are 4 laws i picked that have no specific reference in new testament), and of course there are many laws we don't follow, such as sacrificing a animal every time we sin, so i wonder what the golden rule is.. which to follow, which to not follow. I suppose whatever laws are covenant related are negated?
The text that states He declared all foods clean is disputed both to meaning, and even authenticity. Kosher was certainly still in effect for Israelites, even Jesus, BEFORE the cross, and in order to be without sin Jesus would keep them. A better text might be Acts 15: 22 to 29.
One Of Many lets say your right eating or even going into a place with gentiles would make us unclean. It would mean circumcision is still necessary but no the new testament say if one gets to justify themself by those things. There are justifing themself with dead works its by faith you are saved and this faith brings about works of love for god and man.
@@rebeccajade5246 Of COURSE all foods are clean! But that doesn't prove everything in your mouth is food! FOOD is, in context, what is acceptable according to SCRIPTURE (i.e., Lev.11). Thus, Jesus applies Lev. 11 to you (Mt.5:19). Peter applies Lev. 11 to you (1Pe.1:16). Paul applies Lev. 11 to you (2Ti.3:16). blessings..
“But we know that the law is good, provided one uses it legitimately. We know that the law is not meant for a righteous person, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and irreverent, for those who kill their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral and homosexuals, for kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching based on the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was entrusted to me.” 1 Timothy 1:8-11 HCSB
amen, the Law is good if its used lawfully The Law teaches the righteous man how to live a righteous life that pleases God Rom 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” To the unrighteous man, they are guilty before God and under the Law, under the curse of the Law. Rom 3:19 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. To the unrighteous, the law is a ministration of death
@@thomasmarchese2808 in Christ we obey the Torah in newness of spirit, not in oldness of letter. Walking in newness of spirit doesn't mean we no longer walk as Jesus walked obeying the Torah. Eze 36:25-27 "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YOU WILL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM." A hard stony heart is a heart that does not what to hear the Torah Zec 7:12 Yes, they made their hearts like flint, refusing to hear the law and the words which the LORD of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets. In Christ we no longer have the Torah written on hard hearts of stone, instead we desire to obey God and we write the Torah on soft hearts of flesh which do want to obey Him - in the New Covenant Ezekiel tells us God takes away our old stony hearts that do not want to hear or obey His Law, and replaces them with hearts of flesh. 2Co 3:3 "clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart." Someone who is not obeying Gods Law like Jesus did is neither walking in newness of spirit or in oldness of letter - if they are not even trying to obey the Torah they are just workers of lawlessness - see Matt 7:21-23, there is a bad end in store for workers of lawlessness. Mat 7:23 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' To obey the Law in 'oldness of letter' means we considering God's Law to be nothing more than 'a list of rules', instead of understanding what His Law is - His instructions to us to live a righteous life. Rom 7:7 Without His Law we would not know what sin is, and if we do not know what sin is we do not know what it is we need to stop doing. People who serve God in 'oldness of letter' use His Law like some sort of rule book, trying to find loopholes in the way it is written so they don't have to obey the Law's they don't want to obey. In my opinion if you want to know how to serve God in 'oldness of letter', a good example is the person serving in 'oldness of letter' who reads the Law and sees that there is no prohibition against a woman sleeping with a woman, so they come to the conclusion the Law doesn't address lesbianism, therefore lesbianism is not a sin! Another good example (in my opinion) of using the Torah in 'oldness of letter' is a teaching I have heard from a pastor regarding sodomy. This teaching says that because it's only a sin in the Law of God if a man to sodomises another man, that means its not a sin for a husband to sodomise his wife, or a wife to sodomise her husband, i.e. they are using the Torah in 'oldness of letter'. So now that we are new creations in Christ we don't read God's Law like that - truly we can read Ps 119 and identify with everything written in it - we love God, we love the Messiah and we love the Torah. Truly we understand that we cleanse our ways by obeying God's Word. Matt 4:4&23:1-4 We fully obey Jesus who told us to 'live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, i.e. we hear and observe all the Law of God that we would hear being read from the Moses seat So instead of approaching God's Law as though its just 'a list of rules', we understand that the Law is God's instructrions for us (i.e. 'Torah' means 'instruction'). So instead of looking for loop holes so we can get out of obeying certain commandments, because we are 'in Christ', we obey the whole Law in 'newness of spirit'. So when we read where the Law calls a man sleeping with a man as he would with a woman' an abomination, we understand that also equally applies to a woman sleeping with a woman. We don't serve Gid in 'newness of spirit' by disregarding and rejecting His Law! That interpretation contradicts the whole message of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. We serve God and follow Jesus by reading and obeying the Torah in 'newness of letter'. A good example is Paul, he knew the Law forbids lesbianism - he even mentions it in Rom 1. Paul wasn't adding to the Law, he was rightly dividing the word of truth and teaching it correctly, he taught the Law of God to the first century believers in 'newness of spirit'.
@@thomasmarchese2808 how does doing the Law in the Spirit work if you don't do the Law? How do I obey the Law in the Spirit regarding committing adultery without obeying the Law regarding committing adultery as its written?
Yeshua never declared all meats clean in Mark 7:19. This phrase in modern translation is in (). It is added by translators. The original manuscripts definetly dont say it and the old english kjv translation also doesnt include this. Yeshua had just told the Pharisees that they were rejecting YHWHs commands to keep their own tradition. They were calling food eatin with unwashin hads unclean which was never commandef by YHWH. Besides this is 100% jewish context here. The Pharisees would not have been talking about biblical unclean foods because to all of them this wasnt even an option. These laws on food have been since creation. At least Noah knew about it.
Yes, this is often times one of the biggest challenges we face in modern society. More in more in this time that we live, we see Ezekiel 37 coming to life. The nation of Israel is restored in 1948. More Jews are coming to know their Messiah as the Spirit of God brings them to life from the spiritual valley in Ezekiel 37 in which they are slain and they realize everything we have faced as Jews in terms of persecution was to turn us away from Yeshua by spiritual enemies as well as physical ones. But now we are victorious and there is nothing that can take us away from the opportunity of eternal life with God and we can stand up and fight against this stigma. More so contemporary Christians teach the law is done away with. This is not true. It has been fulfilled. Gentiles are not required to partake in physical circumcision, sacrifices, or specifically act as priests as they do in the torah, but everything else still applies and the torah is still a way of life for all mankind. The Sabbath still applies and the original holidays of God are still intact. Easter is a pagan holliday, so is Christmass. 1 Corinthians 10 objects to celebrating these holidays. We should follow what is written in the bible.
well even pastors (like JP) who studied the bible their whole lives never really understood the law either, they think it's gone and done away. Their Jesus came down to teach them how to break His own laws. Like the SABBATH and Food Laws. Here's what tho, the sabbath is binding for sure. How can it not be? It's in the 10 commandments!! Jesus even taught us how to keep it exactly. Because the rabbis of His time destroyed the sabbath and made it a burden for the people instead of being blessing. Now the Food Laws. It has nothing to do with salvation. But here consider this! The Food Laws IS GOD'S WISDOM SHARED TO US so that we would know what is and isn't good for our bodies. Take that principle and SEE FOR YOURSELF that God really cares for your well being. Yes, even up to the food you eat. ...and then John Piper is just now adding "pork" in the letter to the corinthians. Even tho it isn't even there. But anyhow, JP can't even explain "If you love me, keep my commandments" either. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome" because we love God, we keep His commandments in our hearts and do them.
@@bryanyawn You are right! JP is wrong. Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19). Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16). The SAME TORAH OF MOSES passes into the NEW Covenant (Jer.31:33). blessings...
THe problem I see however...is that food and Sabbath are not the only laws there are...not even just the 10 commandments....Leviticus is FILLED with laws...why are we picking and choosing which ones to follow and which ones we do not?? Why the foo law, and not the law with mixing fabrics, or stoning...Sabbath and Food are not the only laws.
@@domrob3600 That's the point, Dom Rob! We must NOT arbitrarily pick-and-choose. We're not playing HOMETOWN CHRISTIAN BUFFET games here! We must grow in faithful obedience to ALL properly observable Torah portions, while in our present diaspora. Sure, many Levitical laws are presently unobservable while in diaspora; but don't worry! We WILL again obey 100% (Dt.30:1-8) when the Messiah restores all Levitical sacrifices (Mal.3:4). And, the mixed-fabric law is generally not too hard to obey while in diaspora, so let's grow in obedience to that one too! The STONING laws are generally NOT observable, because we are presently banished throughout the world, living in countries whose civil laws forbid stoning. So, we'll probably need to wait until we return to inherit the land (Dt.30:1-8) when we will again obey 100% of all Torah (including the stoning laws) at that future time. CONCLUSION: Do what you can....knowing that even Moses promised us that 100% obedience will not again occur until AFTER we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8). blessings in the Messiah...
I love listening to Pastor John Piper. I respect and find his ministry helpful. With that I completely disagree and want to point out that the scripture text of Mark 15:19 does not say “thus he made all foods clean” that was added by the translators in the ESV bible John uses. It even says it was added on the ESV bible and that it is not what Jesus said. We as Christians must reject that added verse and not use it as a stepping stone to build the doctrine of eating what we please. Keep in mind Jesus speaking to his apostles taught them to keep the law of Moses and to take it to heart the things written by God. Very misleading and Pastor John should be rebuked for that. Let me add the verses in Galatians and Colossians doesn’t command to not obey laws for food. It’s specifically talking about trying to be justified by the law. That the law itself can not save you or you can not enter into God’s kingdom by circumcising yourself. You must trust in the work of Christ on the cross and his resurrection that is the body of Christ. The focus is Jesus Christ. Colossians 2:16 is speaking about let no one judge you for keeping what God has commanded. It later goes on to say that do not follow the teachings and commands of men. Keep in mind the laws in Torah where given to Moses by Almighty Godhead which Jesus was completely apart of not men. Please everyone relook at the verses with a more word for word text like KJV, MEV or NKJV. Don’t forget that the laws given to Moses where given by God. Don’t forget Jesus taught his disciples Torah principles. Don’t forget Paul is addressing a lot of issues going on during that time. We as believers are given the Holy Spirit that writes upon us the conviction of sin. That we would not be condemned but rise in Jesus to do the Fathers will given in the law. But much greater than the law to focus on Jesus establishing the law with in our minds. God bless and test every spirit!!!
The law still should be obeyed. But the law don't save us, Christ does. Christ is the only one who kept the law, so we're covered in His blood through Faith and passed over from punishment. Jesus didn't come to do away with the law and Paul was addressing those who look to the law for salvation. Remember the law is all about love, for love completes it. Love God and love your neighbors as your self. Like God told Jeremiah, the new covenant is about giving a new heart that's willing to obey. Obey what? God's Will, His laws, His teachings. And His spirit helps with that but only through Faith in Christ and obeying His teachings do we receive the Spirit to help us be like Christ who uphelded the law and died in our place.
That's is directly to the ones (Jewish) who have forsaken our Lord blessings which has been upon them for EONS and my God bless the reading of the Words pastor John peace
'Behold, one came to him and said, "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" He said to him, "... if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." He said to him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, "'You shall not murder.' 'You shall not commit adultery.' 'You shall not steal.' 'You shall not offer false testimony.' 'Honor your father and mother.' And, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Matthew 19:16-19 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. A second likewise is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments." Matthew 22: 36-40
amen when we obey the whole law we are either loving God or loving our neighbours because all the Law is teaching us how to love God and love our neighbours. If you want to inherit eternal life, keep the Commandments - obviously Jesus didn't intend to present a comprehensive list of the ONLY commandments we need to keep - he was presenting the ones that are regarding loving our neighbour as a teachable moment to a particular person - obviously we are also supposed to keep the Commandments which are about loving God.
@@nvdxn Amen💜 "good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws" -Plato "Love doesn’t harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law." - Romans 13:10 'For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”' - Galatians 5:14 May the Lord bless you & keep you 💜
@@Belief_Before_Glory you say 'a good person does not need laws to tell them to act responsibly' "No one is good but One, that is, God." Yeshua (Matt 19:16-17) "I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET." Paul (Rom 7:7) Only a righteous person will be subject to the Law, the unrighteous, carnal sinful person is not subject to the Law of God - Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
@@nvdxn Friend, I prefer not to play with semantics. For what it's worth, I believe that we both know that Plato was using the word somewhat loosely. Only God is *absolutely* good, but the Bible does use "good" when referring to people: "For he was a 👉good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and of faith, and many people were added to the Lord." - Acts 11:24 From the mouth of Jesus Himself (using the word *loosely* ): "The 👉good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings out that which is good..." - Luke 6:45 "A 👉good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children..." Proverbs 13:22 I believe you get the gist. As for the law, God has written the law in our hearts and minds, but very few of us actually listen to the inner voice, which is there to guide us: "...I will put my law in their inward parts, and I will write it in their heart..." - Jeremiah 31:33 '...“I will put my laws on their heart, I will also write them on their mind;”...' - Hebrews 10:16 I wish you the best 💜
@@Belief_Before_Glory In the Scriptures having the law written on your heart meant a person learnt the Law and obeyed it - in the first Covenant God commanded His people to write the Law on their hearts and minds - in the new Covenant the Law will be written on our hearts and minds - its the same thing but actually better (i.e. a superior promise as Hebrews says), but for some reason Churchianity thinks having the law written on their heart means they no longer have to familiarize themselves with the written Law Rom 7:7 alone refutes the doctrine that having the Law written on your heart means you don't need to learn it and obey it. If Paul knew having the law written on his heart meant he just needed to listen to his 'inner voice' why is he saying if he didn't know that the Law said not to covet he wouldn't have known not to covet? You have obviously made up your mind on this topic regarding obeying God's Holy Scriptures, and its not my job to change your mind, thats the work of His Holy Spirit, so may God judge between us. Shalom
NO!!!! Paul in Romans seeks to show that the Law did not make men righteous but instead gave them the knowledge of sin. Therefore there was a need for a new way of righteousness, the way of forgiveness through faith in Jesus’ sacrifice. He wanted his readers to understand that those who accept the sacrifice of Christ are living “under grace” and such would not produce a life of sin (as many thought) but a life of righteousness. Thus in Romans 7:1-6 Paul answers the question, “Shall we live in sin because we are under grace rather than under law?”
Not everyone that says unto me, ADONAI, ADONAI, shall enter into the Kingdom of YAHUAH; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, ADONAI, ADONAI, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye transgressors of the Torah. MATTHEW 7:21-23 All these people thought they were saved. They were even doing great wonders in His name. BUT THEY WERE DECIEVED AND REFUSED TO GUARD HIS TORAH CUZ THEIR PREACHER LIED TO THEM. THEY BELIEVED THAT THE TORAH WAS DONE AWAY WITH. THEY ALSO READ IN THEIR CORRUPTED KJV BIBLE. IN ROMANS 10:4 THAT CHRIST IS THE END IF THE LAW. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT TELOS THE GREEK WORD FOR END IN THIS TRUTH MEANS GOAL NOT END. SO THE CORRECT TRANSLATION IS HA'MASHIACH IS THE GOAL OF THE TORAH. At the end of this passage you have the Greek work anomia which means lawlessness or without Torah. Yahusha is telling these people that think they are saved to depart from them because they are disobedient or oblivious to Torah. Lawless. We live in an age where there's a lot of deception and 90% of all those churches out there all the lying to their congregations about the Torah. It's sad but true. One has to read the bible in context.
Lots of good points, thank you. SOMETIMES "TELOS" means termination, sometimes not. In the LXX we find many examples where "TELOS" does NOT mean TERMINATION. That's sufficient to prove that Rom.10:4 need not require the TERMINATION interpretation. You are correct.
Fullfil does not mean do away with, it never has. God is the Torah, he is his laws, he can never be done away with or changed and neither can his Torah. Jesus kept the Torah perfectly, and we to strive to be like him so why not follow the laws he followed? Fullful in the Hebrew context means " to interpret the Torah correctly" that's what he came to do. The Pharisees had messed up, contorted and added to the Torah so much that Yeshua(Jesus). Had come and fix that. And the scripture that mr piper quoted about what goes into a mans stomach will defile him was not talking about food it was talking about the disciples not washing hands before eating bread
Good talk, Pastor John. Everything you said in this subject agrees with the Catholic teaching. Two extremes to be avoided: the error of the Judaizers, who want us to still keep the 300+ Levitical laws, and the opposite error of the antinomians, who think that Christian freedom means freedom from all law. Jesus repealed tge Levitical law at Luke 16:16 but in the very next verse, verse 17, He says that the ten commandments still stand.
One thing Pastor John could have added that would help people understand: the Levitical law never applied to anyone except the Jews, but the ten commandments were for all people at all times. commandments
Can someone explain to me how we can eat pork meaning disregard that law but then we uphold other Old Testament laws? I need to understand this once and for all lol. I’m stressed.
@@Spokojna I’m doing a study on all the laws. I can only speak for myself, but for example, when I started repenting for the sins of my ancestors and other various things in the Old Testament, my life improved significantly. But people will say “we aren’t under those laws anymore,” so I don’t know.
If Jesus changed the Law, then He wouldn't be the promised prophet promised by YHVH in Deuteronomy 13 and 18. "Suppose a prophet or a dreamer of dreams rises up among you and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder he spoke to you comes true, while saying, ‘Let’s follow other gods’-that you have not known, and-‘Let’s serve them!’ You must not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams-for YHVH your God is testing you, to find out whether you love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul. YHVHyour God you will follow and Him you will fear. His mitzvot you will keep, to His voice you will listen, Him you will serve and to Him you will cling. That prophet or dreamer of dreams must be put to death! For he has spoken falsehood against YHVH your God, who brought you out from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to entice you from the way YHVH your God commanded you to walk. So you will purge the evil from your midst." - Deuteronomy 13:2-6 This is why the leaders in Judaism were trying to test Him constantly and trap Him in breaking the Law. If He started breaking the Law, then they would have had an easy time proving He wasn't the Messiah. We all know how the story ends, they couldn't find any fault in Him at all according to the written Torah. So again, the question you need to ask yourself is "If Jesus came to change the Father's Ways, could He be the promised Messiah?"
Amen. Jesus' indictment of the religious rulers was/is not, as these theologians like to say, that the Pharisees were super-scrupulous to a fault about following the Torah/ God's commandments. What was Jesus' charge against them? Mark 7 JESUS: Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. *Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men,* as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, *Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.* For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; *Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered:* and many such like things do ye. Touching the righteousness which is in God's law, the pharisees were not blameless. That may have been their assessment of themselves, but it wasn't and isn't God's. JESUS: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: *but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.* For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Wait, when reading the passage referenced here recently the way I saw it was that, yes of course Christ fulfilled the law, we are no longer under/justified by it we are justified by His pure grace through faith which is a gift. The text agrees with that by saying there are people who kept the law and not who are all in the Kingdom, my worry and question comes from Christ saying that those who set aside the least of these laws will be called least in the Kingdom. What does that mean? We're not justified by it, we are justified by grace but if we don't keep the law we will be called least in the Kingdom? Any help? Matt 5
Amanda Cole I think that when u read it Jesus is referring to the things he is about to say. He specifically says,"whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven." 2 verses later Jesus starts talking about things we are to do. Idk if this is correct, but it seems to be one of the few ways it doesn't contradict Paul
No Jesus in Matthew 5:17 says he did not come to abolish Torah/Law but to fulfill. Basically bring in to everyone heart and clean us from within. Than continues to say whoever disobeys the least commandment shall be least. The whole focus of chapter 5 is the law and keeping it not just outwardly but in our heart!!! This should help both of yall. God bless!!
We are justified by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) and GRACE (Rom.3:24) and WORKS (Jas.2:24) TOGETHER. Not Torah alone (Gal.5:4-5; sorry misguided Jews!) Not faith alone (Jas.2:24, sorry Protestant Reformation!) Not grace alone (sorry John MacArthur!) Not works alone (sorry "nice" people!) BUT ALL TOGETHER. FAITH is of TORAH (Mt.23:23;Ps.119:30,86,138;Dt.32:20). Faith (Rom.10:8) is of TORAH (Dt.30:14 is cited at Rom.10:8). blessings...
Most of the Ten Commandments were repeated in the New Testament. Also, theologians draw distinctions in the Torah between "moral law" (i.e: Thou shalt not kill) and "ceremonial law" (i.e: In the place where they kill the burnt offering...).
@Razaiel : It is the Law of God, not Moses. Moses was just the channel through which the laws were conveyed, not the author of them. The only ordinances cancelled were those pertaining to blood sacrifices and the Temple, which Yeshua, later re-named "Jesus" by the Gentiles, fulfioled by His own blood sacrifice on the cross. The other laws pertaining to life are still in relevant.
amen - Deut 4:2 and Jam 2:9-10 inform us that keeping Gods law is all or nothing. We obey Gods Law by not adding to or taking away from it, and if you choose to keep some of the Law while ignoring other parts of the Law you are guilty of not keeping it all. This is not hard to understand, so its a curious phenomenon me when people still choose to show partiality in the Law by picking and choosing which laws they are going to keep - they choose to keep only those laws that they label as 'the loving ones' or those they apply the label 'moral' to, and ignore the others, or they say some of them were 'nailed to the cross' or as 'fulfilled by Jesus' and they choose not to obey them, they are cherry picking which ones they want to obey.
Fulfillment of the law: meaning that Jesus is the perfect example of how we should live our lives. Now ask yourself this question, would Jesus eat pork? NO..then why should we?
@@HearGodsWord WRONG! Torah requires INFANT circumcision (Lev.12:3), not adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision. That's why Paul requires ALL TORAH (1Cor.7:19) while simultaneously opposing adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision. Torah does not REQUIRE adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision. Paul DOES require all Torah (1Cor.7:19;2Ti.3:16). So does John (1Jn.5:3). Peter even applies Lev. 11 to you (1Pe.1:16). Stephen was full of the Spirit and wisdom which the liars could not resist....(Ac.6:10). The liars said Stephen opposed Torah (Ac.6:11-14). Thus, Stephen affirmed TORAH SHOULD BE OBEYED!
Disappointed to see such blatant misapplied scripture from John Piper. Galatians is about works based salvation, not following the law for obedience to Christ. His exegesis of Mathew 5:17-18 is impossible to follow and makes little sense, he fails to even mention the later half of the verse or the context which help determine the meaning. And the Mark 7:19 reference isn’t even scripture. (thus He declared all foods clean) is not part of the text, rather a scribal note in some manuscripts. It also doesn’t fit the context of the passage which is about not adhering to traditions of men (washing hands ritual).
@@heatherartus2905 Yes! And it's encouraging to see our numbers growing.... Thanks for sharing these important truths with our brothers and sisters.... blessings...
But just to make it clear, i think the question was supposed to be can we keep the sabbath day. Because all other laws are fine , we must obey expect the sabbath day law
For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. (Mat 5:18) Everything is not yet accomplished..not yet fulfilled. There is still his return and the resurrection and the millennial reign and many other things. Those are all prophesied in the law and the prophets and still have to be fulfilled. This literally occurs in Revelation 21 at the conclusion of the millennial reign. "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first HEAVEN AND THE FIRST EARTH HAD PASSED AWAY, and the sea was no more." (Rev 21:1) "And he said to me, “IT IS DONE (all is accomplished)! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment."(Rev 21:6). This is why we see the Torah being kept in the future: Then everyone who survives of all the nations (Gentiles) that have come against Jerusalem shall go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Booths (Zec 14:16). And why we see the Gentiles' eyes being opened near the last days as they realized that the version of Christianity that their preachers and parents have taught them is a lie and how they come to the realization that they have created their own version of God. "O LORD, my strength and my stronghold, my refuge in the day of trouble, to you shall the nations come from the ends of the earth and say: “Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, worthless things in which there is no profit (Jer 16:19) And why we see the gentiles seeking to learn the Torah: The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow to it, and many peoples shall come, and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.” For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:1-3) This is what the scripture teaches and what Yeshua taught. Every book in the entire bible is in perfect alignment with this message. That is until we get to Paul. Choose Yeshua because Paul cannot save you.
Except the SPIRIT who testifies we should obey Torah (Heb.10:15-16), even Torah ordinances (Eze.36:27) "from now and forever" (Is.59:20-21), so that we can STOP THE FLESH (Rom.8:13) which DISOBEYS Torah (Rom.8:7).
.If we say we love Yah and do NOT obey his commandments we are a LIAR , and the truth is not in him.. Paul said let no one pass judgment on you regarding food or Sabbath .. This is in regard to people that ignored the laws who were judging the people that kept the laws very much the opposite of your misinterpretation.....
People who don’t trust Jesus return to the law! If that’s you, you better learn who your savior is. He desires your HEART, not sacrifice or burnt offerings. He was the ultimate offering, and sacrifice!!
Then why did God say to keep the commandments (in Leviticus) FOREVER. Why would he say for always if only meant a few hundred more years?? Paul was a false apostle. Look into it. We have no reason to trust him. There were 12 apostles not 13. He never even met Jesus and it was clear to be an Apostleof Christ that he had to have taught you directly. He was recruited by Satan to mislead people. It's a test. Yahweh was always warning us.
Bless John...I agree with where he lands the plane... but where the plane takes off from and the journey the plane takes is really bumpy. Really faulty understanding of both Mark 7 and Galatians. Anyway like I said, the overall point is good.. which is FREEDOM
This question wasn't fully answered regarding the Old Testament and sensitively enough as it relates to the marriage situation. The Lord YHWH would have stated clean and unclean meats in Genesis 7:2,3 talking of clean and unclean meats even before Moses and then expanded on this in Leviticus 11:1-23 and clean vs unclean in vs 24-47 now to say because of the blood of Christ these meats are now clean is more supposition than fact based. What would have caused God to make the distinction between clean and unclean in the first instance. The reference was made to circumcision this has been stated as no longer binding. Mans and animal original diet was "meat" being seed and herb which is Gen. 1:29,30 Flesh was allowed but with limitations, only now science has caught up with the "why" not to. I also am concerned as this question was raised and desire more clarity on the question raised in light of my scriptural observation.
"The reference was made to circumcision this has been stated as no longer binding. " Paul required ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16), and that includes Lev. 12:3. Circumcision was not abolished.
I stopped at the usage of Mark 7 as evidence of not keeping the clean foods law. That passage is totally used out of context, and is in direct contradiction to the same scene in Matthew 15. The context of all that Christ said was because the pharasees condemned Jesus and his disciples for not washing their hands. Nowhere does Christ talk about clean or unclean foods. Do you really think there was pork, or another unclean food at the table where Jesus and his disciples sat to eat? No way. Read both texts, and you'll see that they are the same instance just told from different perspectives. The text that says "In doing so he commanded all meats clean", is an opinion of man, and in direct contradiction to God the Father. If Christ broke that law, he is no more Messiah than the man on the moon, and we are all decieved.
The Solomon Ant why wouldn't he or any of the other disciples eat it if declared it clean? Why then is God coming to judge those who eat pork, and the abomination as noted in Isaiah 65, and 66? It just doesn't add up. And as for God declaring He would do anyway with these laws is completely wrong as well, there does not exist any verses proving that God would do away with what he considers food to us, and what is not.
The Solomon Ant another study you should look into is the verse itself, in many Bibles, that passage isn't even included in the translation. Many modern verses has something completely different then what is written. Also think of the ramifications of Jesus going against what the Father said? He is promoting disobedience, if he did this, then He is not Messiah!
The Solomon Ant yet another point to consider is what the verse plainly says, "Jesus declared all foods clean". Well of course. It stands to reason that all the animals which God previously declared to be food, is clean. Unclean animals were never to be considered as food to begin with. Again, another reason the phrase makes no sense to the context of the rest of the passage, and is shown to be a translators note, and not scripture.
Then why did Jesus follow the law??? Man can tell us anything for their own profit. God’s word is from generation to generation. The maker of my body gave me instruction to take care of it. Like a parent guide their child. I will follow God’s law or guidance basically his love for me to live as long as the body he created can live. Ask yourself. Did Jesus ever eat pork?
The laws of Moses were on the side of the Sanctuary. These ceremonial laws were done away with at the cross. The law of God was in existence before the earth was made. Sin...is a transgression of the Law. Sin started in heaven with Lucifer. God's moral code is not a Jewish only Law. Likewise, if pork is not good for you to eat at one point then it will always be unhealthy...reason you don't eat flies, or rats. This guy does not understand.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore WHOEVER RELAXES ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHES OTHERS TO DO THE SAME WILL BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, BUT WHOEVER DOES THEM AND TEACHES THEM WILL BE CALLED GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven....... Every Christian pastor fails to recognize the remainder of this passage, also heaven and earth has not passed away.
That is what I'm saying. I'm trying to find the right answer, but there are a lot of overwhelming perspectives on it and I see good points on both sides, so I don't know.
@@daughteroftheking3220 The answer is Jesus my Friend. you have to pray to God in His name AND have an open heart/mind about what you are asking him. You have to believe for real and confess your sins with your mouth for real to God in Jesus Christ name. Most people have hardened hearts and everyone wants to be right but the answer is already present. its Jesus my friend. he got me to not kill myself and got me to stop smoking Weed after 9 years straight. people cant come to God because they think they are god. well if that was true we would be able to live as long as we want and wouldn't allow ourselves to go hungry or get sick. obviously we cant do that so we are not God. Pray to God in Jesus Name and really have a one on one with him. humble yourself and be honest with yourself before the Lord does it too you. God bless you🙏🙏
@@daughteroftheking3220 Amen ! Glory and Praise goes to The Lord Jesus Christ. i ask him to use me to help others everyday. Ask anything in his name and he will give you it. he knows what is in your heart but we have free will so thats why we need to seek him on our own for real. then he gives us exactly what we need when we need it. I pray you find the peace i have found in the Savior Jesus Christ🙏🙏God bless you
What if applied to smoking weed? I think he said “td not what goes into a persons mouth that defiles them, it goes into their stomach and is expelled, but having weed smoked it is damaging to your lungs, and so what if we eat it to get a feeling? It all is so confusing to my heart
The point isn't where the product mentioned enters; we aren't supposed to use things to be "changed" from ourselves. One may drink, but not to get drunk.
With weed that can become an idol and the Bible says to be sober minded weather it’s alcohol or not smoking or even having sex those things you have to check because it’s feeding the flesh. And lastly all things are lawful but not all things are beneficial we shouldn’t do all things just because we can and God can forgive us!!!
If you want to fulfill the whole law of God: love your neighbor (galatians 5:14... Love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:10)... If you want to inherit eternal life: love your neighbor (Luke 10:25-37)...(Luke 18:18-22) If you love your neighbor, you love Jesus...if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love Jesus... Jesus is going to separate the sheep from the goats... the goats are going to everlasting punishment for not loving their neighbor (Matthew 25:31-46)... Jesus is not going to ask the goats or the sheep, did you attended church on Saturday or Sunday? Did you speak in tongues? Did you cast out demons? Did you tithed? Did you prophesied? Did you worship God on Saturday or on Sunday? Did you do signs and wonders? If you are helping out a stranger, (neighbor) you are fulfilling the whole law of God... Love God.. love neighbor.. love one another, in Jesus name
The more you listen to these top theologians give their best answers for this question, you realize they have very little Biblical evidence backing up their view. They go to Mark 7, Acts 10, Acts 15, Colossians 2, a couple verses in Hebrews, Galatians and Romans and that's about it. The vast amount of Scripture points to the fact that Jesus and all His followers were fully committed to upholding the written Torah and the Prophets. The disciples and Paul didn't see any contradiction with upholding Torah and Grace. David didn't see any contradiction in Trusting in God for his salvation and upholding the entire Torah. We are grafted into Israel through faith in Jesus Christ. "if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me." - Jesus (John 5:46)
No, they do. "17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, *Why* *callest* *thou* *me* *good?* *there* *is* *none* *good* *but* *one,* *that* *is,* *God.* 19 *Thou* *knowest* *the* *commandments,* *Do* *not* *commit* *adultery,* *Do* *not* *kill,* *Do* *not* *steal,* *Do* *not* *bear* *false* *witness,* *Defraud* *not,* *Honour* *thy* *father* *and* *mother.* 20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. 21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, *One* *thing* *thou* *lackest:* *go* *thy* *way,* *sell* *whatsoever* *thou* *hast,* *and* *give* *to* *the* *poor,* *and* *thou* *shalt* *have* *treasure* *in* *heaven:* *and* *come,* *take* *up* *the* *cross,* *and* *follow* *me.* 22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions." Mark 10:17-22 KJV The 10 commandments still apply today. If Jesus said, something that contradicted the 10 commandments, then they would not apply. Thank you and God Bless *:)*.
Ruben Håvik “The Tablets of the Covenant”, as they were referred to repeatedly in Exodus and Deuteronomy, were given specifically to the Children of Israel, as the written, tangible embodiment of the Covenant made between God and the Israelites, whom He had just brought out of Egypt. Unless you were party to that Covenant, the 10 Commandments - or those that followed on the next 11 pages of my Bible - are NOT binding on you. That being said, do not think that the moral teachings (ie: Do not kill) contained therein should be disregarded.
The Levitical law has been repealed but the ten commandments still stand. If we understand these two things we understand this whole issue. See Luke 16:16-17.
God says not to eat pork. Piper says you can. Obey God. Piper will pay. Someone added to the Bible that Jesus declared all foods clean. Be wise. Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees that said you had to wash your hands before eating food, he was not declaring unclean food to now be clean. Ridiculous.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh even people that do not keep God's dietary laws do not interpret acts 10 mean that we can eat unclean food. If you notice he is told not to call what God cleanse uncommon, he is not told that would God called unclean is now clean. He uses the term common. You should ask yourself why Peter was actually still keeping the dietary laws decades after Christ already rose from the dead. Acts 10 is about salvation coming to Gentiles and has absolutely zero to do with food.
We dont live under the law (of moses) we live under grace, but under the 10 commandments, moses wrote the law, but God wrote with his finger the 10 commandments ! Moses gave us the law but Jesus Christ gave us Grace and Truth!
We are supposed to fear YHWH and keep his laws and commandments! Matthew @-18 King James Version (KJV) 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 1 John 2:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. John @ - He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Deut @ O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear Me, and keep all My commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! Deut 8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of YHWH thy Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to fear Him Deut 13:4 Ye shall walk after YHWH your Elohim, and fear him, and keep His commandments, and obey His voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto Him. Deut @ And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life:that he may learn to fear YHWH his Elohim, to keep all the words of this law and these statues, to do them: Deut @ Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear YHWH your Elohim, and observe to do all the words of this law: Jos @ That all the people of the earth might know the hand of YHWH, that it is mighty: that ye might fear YHWH your Elohim for ever. Psa 112:1 Praise ye YHWH. Blessed is the man that feareth YHWH, that delighteth greatly in His commandments.
This was not part of Moses Law but this was part of Elohims plan. From the beginning of the time of Noah there was a distinction between clean and unclean food. The list of food was only revealed in leviticus. This was not the law of moses. Also if it was the law of moses then that means tithe is no longer needed? Please clarify biblically with no personal interpretations but with the fullness of the Word. Also with no contradictions
Cgilbert To my brother William Gonzalez you are considered to be a Gentile and they convenient left out you are also chosen to uphold the the of banner of true believer Romans 9:24 and pslam 27 my peace be upon you
Wow this answers long time struggle for me on foods the sabbath was other one I need to get clarification Sat or Sunday!? This site lays thing out pretty good on the foods hope I can find the one the on true sabbaths ! The
Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. Jer 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR MINDS AND WRITE IT ON THEIR HEARTS; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Eze 36:25 ""Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. Eze 36:26 I will give you a new heart and "PUT A NEW SPIRIT WITHIN YOU; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Eze 36:27 I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YOU WILL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM". ??? if in the New Covenant we now have the Law written on our heart and in our minds and Ezekiel prophesied that we would be given the Holy Spirit so that we can keep God's Law, is the Holy Spirit going to direct a teacher to teach people not to keep God's Law? ??
How about eating food with pork blood as the main ingredients? I think this is prohibited because the Blood represents life and we are not to disrespect it by eating it. Please somebody prove me right or wrong.
Don't be silly! Jesus requires even the SMALLEST of commands in the Torah of Moses (Mt.5:19) lest you be least (Mt.5:19) or worse (Mt.5:20) or worse (Mt.7:21-23) or worse (Mt.13:41-42). Paul requires ALL Torah of Moses (2Ti.3:16). John requires ALL Torah of Moses (1Jn.5:3). Peter even explicitly applies Lev. 11 to you! (1Pe.1:16). GRACE is Christ's law because GRACE is in TORAH (Ex.33:13), and CHRIST commands Torah (Mt.4:4;5:19-20;7:21-23;13:41-42;22;37;23:2-3,23,34;Lk.10:25-28). GRACE extends to the humble (Jas.4:6). HUMBLE people obey TORAH (Nu.12:3;Ps.25:9;Ex.33:13;Zep.2:3). FAITH is of TORAH (Mt.23:23;Ps.119:30,86,138;Dt.32:20). JUSTIFICATION is by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) TOGETHER. Not Torah alone (Gal.5:4-5). Not faith alone (Jas.2:24). But Torah and faith TOGETHER (Rom.2:13+Rom.5:1).
I wonder what these verses mean then. It would be great if you helped me understand. Mark 7: 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)- 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.” Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. 12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely,[b] both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, 17 and none of the condemned things[c] are to be found in your hands. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors- 18 because you obey the Lord your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.
I wholeheartedly disagree. The scripture says don't do... Deciding to personally live by that command isn't denying the work of Yahshua. Yahshua clearly observed all the law. Who does Yahshua say is least in heaven?
Question ? When God gave Peter the dream with all the unclean animals and told him to rise and eat…. Why did Peter say I shall not because I have never eaten anything unclean….. why would he say that if Jesus, who already died and rose, did away with all unclean foods ?
Circumcision is the sign of the covenant of Faith with Abraham. It's a sign of the miraculous seed of God's promises. In many cases when Paul talks about "circumcision" in his letters, he is most likely using that term as shorthand for going through the process of converting to the rules of Judaism. Judaism had made up a bunch on new rules in their "Oral Torah" which is wholeheartedly different than the Written Torah of the Bible. It's similar to how you would need to follow all the rules to convert to Catholicism or else they wouldn't count you as one of them. Those rules aren't in the Bible. They are made up. If you throw out circumcision, you throw out the sign of the covenant of faith with Abraham. “Thus says the Lord GOD: No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart and flesh, of all the foreigners who are among the people of Israel, shall enter my sanctuary." - Ezekiel 44:9
3.36 "He declared all foods clean" -- talk about taking a verse out of context! And a bad verse at that!! Not only is the Greek text suspect, the translation of the verse is suspect. Furthermore, this verse only comes up in one Gospel, so there is only one witness. All things are established with two or three witnesses. And on top of that, why would Jesus abolish HIS own law about food? If Jesus is part of the Trinity, HE wrote those Laws and the verse that says that no verse in Torah would change. So why does Jesus change it now? And in the back room at Peter's house somewhere. Is Jesus unstable? Is the Word of God not fixed? or are you dead wrong?????
It's not merely a suspect translation of the Greek (whether UBS, MGNT, or the received text), it's an outright fallacious insertion. "By this he declared all foods clean" is not in either Alexandrian or Byz texts. The older English Bibles render it right. Here's the King James Bible: Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? Think about what Jesus is saying here people.
JESUS BELIEVED GOD COULD NOT TELL US ALL HE WANTED TO, NOT ALL AT ONCE! Perhaps one of the best ways to sum up the theme of the Bible is, NOT a collection of stories and prophesies and laws given by God to explain EVERYTHING He wanted humanity to understand, all at once...but a slow and grinding process of humanity inching along, often at a snail's pace, to grasp what the Spirit of God was trying to convey, but could only get across in small amounts at a time! Yes, it sure would have been nice if, somehow, humanity could have 1000s of years ago , in one fell swoop, renounced things like slavery! But if we could go back in time to 1200 BCE (which is a very rough estimate of when Moses received the Law from God, including the Book of Exodus), and talked to SLAVES THEMSELVES and asked, "Don't you think it would be a good idea to get rid of all slavery?" Their answer would likely have been: "Well, sure but then, who would do all the work?" So what did people like Moses come up with as he was, ever so slowly, tuning in to the Spirit of God? Well, he laid down some LIMITATIONS to make it not quite as horrible to be a slave! For example, he gave a law that said nobody was allowed to work one day a week--the Sabbath, and the reason he gave to explain why it was necessary--was because God rested on the 7th day after He made the world and everyone in it. Now, maybe he could have said, "Thou shalt not make your slaves and beasts of burden work more than 6 days in a row, because that's exploitation and they deserve better treatment!" But slave owners would have probably balked and said, "What? They're my property, and I'll do with them whatever I please!" But by making EVERYONE have to take a day off, on the basis of some ethereal logic like God needed to rest as well, apparently, seemed more palatable! In any case, the slaves and work animals could, at least, finally catch a break! The same holds true for Exodus 21:20-21. Prior to this restriction, slaves could be beaten to death if a master so desired, but by creating a law decreeing a master could be fined for beating a slave to death, deterred them from beating them TOO MUCH! Similarly, Exodus 21:26-27 decrees a slave was to be freed if, during a beating, s/he lost an eye or a tooth, again, with the idea that it was still OK to beat them...just don't aim for the head! Now, did these laws that put some modest restraints on how slaves were to be treated God's way of saying slavery, itself, was OK? Of course not! (Though the Antebellum slave-holders of the southern US states certainly used these and other bible passages to justify their wicked behavior). But as with other laws Moses gave, Jesus' viewpoint was that Mosaic Law was a stop-gap measure, "given for the hardness of men's hearts" (Matthew 19:8). These measures, given the horrific conditions and expectations of the time and place in history they were issued, represented some progress, if only measured in baby steps in the right direction, but not the end-all-and-be-all of what God was really after! To put it another way, the overall theme of the Bible is one story or law or prophesy after the other, in which, God is not waiting for humanity to rise up to where He is, before connecting with us, but a constant effort on his part to reach down to where we are, no matter how disgustingly low humans had sunk in the way we treat one another...to meet us where we are, not where we should be, and then, lift us up from there at the quickest (or least slow) pace as possible! Rick Lannoye, author of www.amazon.com/Real-Life-Jesus-Nazareth-Really-Stood-ebook/dp/B09V4BJ62D
No we must not obey old testament rules , we must create and pray our man made idols ,as our God , and we must kill and do adultery at any time, as long as we want it, do it bro
The problem is that the O.T. said to obey INSTRUCTION (not LAW). It is all about WHERE your heart is. Don't eat unclean food if you have any doubt. Pork is not ICE CREAM people!!!!
Noah was a Gentile long before the Law given at Sinai, and he knew the differences between clean and unclean animals back then before there were any Jews, and many Christian trachets refer to what Noah kept before God as the "Noachide laws," which if that indeed applies to only Gentiles, then his treatment and acknowledgement of clean and unclean animals should apply to Gentiles today. The unclean animals were boarded (by God) in TWOS simply for reproduction as scavenging animals needed to ecologically clean the planet of rotting detritus and carcasses. The clean animals were boarded in SEVEN PAIRS i.e. 14 animals of each species, as these were needed in larger numbers as they were the animals permitted by God for mankind to eat, and Noah found GRACE in the eyes of the LORD as a non-Christian, but He was obedient to God.
WRONG! Paul condoned sacrifices (Ac.21). THOUSANDS of Christians were zealous for Torah (thus including sacrifices, Ac. 21:20). Some Christians were even animal-sacrificing priests! (Ac.6:7) Jesus requires sacrifices for people of all nations (Mt. 11:17 citing Is.56:7). Jesus comes to RESTORE sacrifices (Mal.3:4). We will again obey 100% of ALL Torah (including Levitical/sacrificial Torah, Dt. 30:1-8). NO Torah is abolished. Rather, we simply can not presently obey all Torah while in diaspora. But that will change! We WILL again obey ALL Torah (Dt.30:1-8).
I like hearing these talks but with respect and love he tip toes around questions sometimes. As a believer I do Love how he tries to bring clarity and he does a good job. Certain things in regards to this conversation.
Circumsion was not done away with it was redefined expanded on. Jesus clearly said I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill - Means to complete.
Abolish means or is defined as formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution
Colossians 2:11
In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Baptism. The Covenant was circumcision of the flesh before but now is of the Spirit through water.
Not Abolished but New
You can not confuse the 10 Commandments which it still stand today.
With Moses 610 commands.
Jesus himself said you hearts were harden so Moses allowed you to divorce.... Moses gave the people what they wanted but it was not God's ultimate will. Moses had authority at the time but Jesus defined what God's will is and he claimed Authority. He did not change His Father's Word.
Why would he say vengeance is mine. Vengeance is not required if no Law is broken?
Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
By nullify the Comandments you are saying he has no reason that there are no abominations unto the lord. Idoltors will get into heaven. Murderers. Thieves. Ect.
Even after they Repent accept Jesus and are Baptized. They can keep sinning because its of no effect.
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.
Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished.
Gods Law are in complete effect as we speak and for the last 2000 years incorporated into our laws.
Murder still a crime a Commandment.
Stealing still a crime
A Commandment
Embezzlement
Fraud both in effect
Ect. Also Against another Human
If the world continues to be corrupt like it is now 2020 and do allow a Legal purge like killing Christians. Look at History the Holocaust government sanctioned. Would you kill? Because the Commandments are not in effect and the government sanction it? Think about this. More than likely you won't because you know its wrong but lukewarm "Christians with this Law is not in affect only Grace with no change" probably will kill. For defense or survival.
Domt go off to Far the Popes support for Homosexual acceptance. Why are people resisting if the Law is not in effect?
You can keep all 10 Comandments. You dont want to because you were taught not to.
Unbias believer dont find it difficult. They were never taught to disregard them.
In the past they needed to in order to be saved. Jesus died for us and paid the price . The perfect Lamb not just for Jews but the whole World. We are saved only through Grace and not religious practices that justify Crusades, kkk, Salvery, concentration camps, hewbrew Israelites ect. All do religious practices or other wise man made things and teachings.
Following Commandments is ordained by God and Supported by Jesus. Even the disciples kept them. They taught against the 610 that the Jews try to enforce on to the Greeks.
Law keeping will come easily and is not work when you Love God with all you heart and Your neighbor.
Food laws are for your benefit they will not save you but will help you. You can not truly belive that pork and shellfish, reptiles ect will make you healthier.
Why do you think people are attempting to eat cleaner? health benefits. That come with eating certain food and staying away from others. Where did covid come from? Where do certain diseases come from certain food. Swine flu. Stop and think.
The 2 commands given by Jesus incorporated all the Commandments.
"If you love me keep my Commandments"
1st and greatest is
LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, SOUL MIND AND STRENGTH
This One covers all 4
1. “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Me.”
Idoltors, pride, ect
2.“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
People who curse and use his name
3. “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.” This is the one people fail due to this teaching of no Law. Then you Have the Sunday vs Saturday battle.
“Honor thy father and mother.”
Don't curse or mistreat parents.
Tell me is it really hard to complete this when you are a true believer? This is easy with the renwal of our minds and hearts.
Then you have LOVE THY BROTHER AS THYSELF
This covers these 6
5 “Thou shalt not kill.”
This is not hard many do this everyday who are not even saved.
6“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
People struggle but belivers can absolutely avoid this
7“Thou shalt not steal.”
You dont need to do steal. Most people don't and a true believer would not take what is not his
8“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
In court you can't do it so believers should find this easy
9“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife"
Adultery lust with eyes like Jesus said
10“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”
Again same as above
Think about it you do most of them without thinking.
He never got rid of it. It doesn't negate what he did. We honor our Father by doing what he ask from the beginning. Just don't do it thinking you will be saved. If we fail we no longer need a lamb to be sacrificed we can pray to God though Jesus. Not a regular man or through religious practice to correct our ways so we don't fail again.
If you break any one of these you break his 2 Comandments
Therefore you dont love him because
"If you love [HIM] me keep [HIS] my commandments"
Just like food laws they are for you benefits. Even if you are Christians but steal kill adultery you will pay the consequences on earth if not God will Judge you. Unless you repent and stop it. If you continue you will be in danger and there will be gnashing of teeth
Last thought. In the future what will distinguish true belivers from lukewarm one? Or which God you serve under a Muslim ruled world? Or under a Coexist movement because they believe in one God or others? Or the Jesus that the world portrays on a cross with gold chains who only brings blessings?
Only one God. The God Of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, The Father of Jesus our Lord and Savior.
His Comandments his Mark that will be placed on your right hand and mind and on our Heart through Jesus.
Exodus 13:9
And it shall serve as a SIGN to you on your HAND, and as a reminder on your FORHEAD, that the LAW of the Lord may be in your MOUTH; for with a powerful hand the Lord brought you out Egypt.
The Word of God. His word. Jesus
The mark of the beast is known through the world but this is God's Mark. The evidence is overwhelming.
Continue to fight the good fight. But many things were not addressed. You will receive no condemnation for not doing them from me, or eating, or living your life. I do pray you just increase daily in your walk and realize what man made Doctrines are and what God's Word says are two different things. Be Blessed in Jesus name Amen.
Really nice explanation!
Paul made it clear that circumcision was not required, instead a "circumcision of the heart". Not sure if that's what you're saying or not.
The laws were never a means of salvation and Paul and the entire Bible make that clear when it explains that Noah and Abraham were saved due to their faith long before the Laws were introduced. The laws were brought about to set Israel apart from the rest of the world. Now we have the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit set us apart from the world. If you live by the spirit you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18
Dustin Hule I have been reading different comments about this and so confusing makes my head hurt and command was nice and simple lol and mad sense in Jesus name Amen 🙏
@@Desman228 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18)
It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished.
"Until the Heaven and Earth disappear"
Earth is Still here.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18)
It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished.
"Until the Heaven and Earth disappear"
Earth is still here. Old law still stands.
@@truman5838 I'm not here to debate you, not here to be to proud because I think I know it all. I am willing to listen ( Meekness) I hope you have that in you because no matter how much we think we know something, it's always someone out there who might know more, so by saying that we have to know when to rightly divide The word of truth (God) this is extremely important and in order to do so we have to except that Jesus Christ is our Lord and savior and allow the Holy Spirit to take over our flesh so we can live in the Spirit Hallelujah..
You sent me two scriptures talks about the Law of God. ok, Jesus came to fulfill them, From the Mosaic Law, we have MORAL LAW, we also have SACREFISIAL LAW, CEREMONIAL LAW they WAS GIVEN TO MOSES witch is of (WORKS) DIETARY LAW and JUDGEMENTAL LAW also. Now if you remember Moral Law was given to us in our heart in Genesis before the Mosaic Law in Exodus.
Romans 5:13 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Mathew 22:-37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
So you are right when you state these Law.
Buts it's about Moral Law the Law within not of works remember if you rightly devide the word of truth we have to live in the Spirit not the flesh Ephesians 2-9 said not of works lest anyone can boast BASICALLY God don't want you to take credit he gets all the Glory so if we do works to get to him he can't take any credit so the Law of works was fulfilled when he died on the cross.
So my point in all of this is yes the Law but the Law to get to Christ is Moral Law the Law within not the Law of the flesh remember we are a SPIRIT we lives in the BODY and have a SOUL the devil and God is in are war in the earthly realm is fighting for the SOUL to choose the flesh ( devil) or (God) the SPIRIT, WE who is the SOUL ( Mind, will and emotions have to pick one the Spirit or the flesh so the Law of works means to DO SOMETHING TO GET TO HEAVEN Jesus Fulfilled that but the Moral Law of Christ is forever within.
@@truman5838 I send this to you in Love and respect my brother;
Mathew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
PRECEPT:
ROMAN:10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
GALATIANS 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
ACT 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be JUSTIFIED by the LAW of Moses.
Isaiah 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:11 meaning he will bear responsibility for our sins and he will justified many.
MATHEW 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
PRECEPT:
Luke 16: 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Yes I would understand why you would say what you said about these verses But the key to the Kingdom of God is to rightly divide his Words.
Think about it SACRIFICIAL LAW is do away with didn't it? and HEAVEN and EARTH is still here ( praise God) 👏 so the question is what law he is talking about in MATHEW 5:18? OK let's go into the MOSAIC LAW; read Galatians 3 please 🙏 ask God to give you wisdom knowledge and revelation in the understanding of him he will guide you into rightly divide The word of truth (God) . If you also go into Mathew 22 the Law of Marriage it was changed but it was good also because it led us to Jesus Christ, so again witch LAW is he talking about in MATHEW 5:18? the answer is THE LAW OF LOVE HALLELUJAH!! The the Mosaic Law of works is NOT for YOU or ME TO GET TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN but does the Law of Moses good? yes it was! it lead us to Jesus Christ .
The greatest commandments is You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. ' This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
The law is good but not of works According to Ephesians.
If you continue the text that he uses, "What goes into a man doesnt defile him" he says that un washed hands has no effect on a man. He was dealing with a pharisaic law of washing hands before eating. He was dealing with the Pharisees making their own laws, not changing the Law.
Exactly! And Jesus continues to express ANGER at those who disobeyed Torah (Mk.7:8-9,13), thus proving that Jesus was NOT canceling anything in Torah.
After all, Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19), and that includes Lev. 11!
But it EXCLUDES silly anti-Torah traditions invented by religious people (Mk.7) regarding how one's hands should supposedly be washed.
Good point!
Bible Guy so do you wear clothes made of two material? Or is it all the same material? That’s a command in Lev. 19. Have you ever trimmed your beard? Or your sideburns or hair? Or a big one, I guess you still sacrifice animals for every sin committed that requires sacrifice? Don’t you see how this defames the cross. Those things are holy according to romans 7. But the definition of Holy is to be set apart. Christ has a new covenant, and a new law. He sets us apart from this world. The only consistent way that the New T’estiment tells us to discern who is of Christ is those that preach the gospel of Jesus. That is the differentiator. We are no longer set apart by circumcision, or sacrificing animals to God in the temple. We don’t send goats out into the wilderness. Jesus has fulfilled the whole law. We have a new law, and new specific commands in Christ. And he even says, loving him entails following these commandments. But to subject ourselves to the old commandments that Jesus himself fulfilled is not only incorrect, it takes away from the Cross. And Paul says that many times if you would just read scripture
@@jtgrace10 Jesus came to add fulfill
not to take away. Only sacrificial laws were done away
All the laws need to be observed
@@JonasJudah Acts 10:11-15
old covenant was fulfilled by coming of Messiah Jesus, Jesus was the end of the Law. By Jesus we are in a new covenant, with new promises: Holy Ghost and eternal life.
Don't be silly! The New Covenant is given as TORAH ("תּוֹרָה", Jer.31:33), so of COURSE we should obey it!
Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19).
Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16).
The Holy Spirit leads us to obey ALL Torah (Heb.10:15-16), even all Torah ordinances (Eze.36:27), and the word of God [Torah!] "from now and forever" (Is.59:20-21).
REPENT!
Rev 14:12
@@bibleguy9857 Do you light fires on Saturday? Do you crank your car on Satuday? Do you turn on the furnace or electricity on Saturday? Then you are breaking the Levitical law.
Do you have any clothes that are made from more than one garment? (It's awfully hard to find such clothes nowadays.) Then you are breaking the Levitical law.
Do you allow your wife to touch anything holy for 33 days after giving birth to a boy? (I guess she would be forbidden to touch a Bible for 33 days.) Then you are breaking the Levitical law.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh Light fires the way it would have been lighted in those days? Nope...
And "crank your car" is not mentioned in Torah, silly billy!
Still researching the clothes issue...trying to make sure I know the proper definitions of "צֶמֶר" and "פֵּשֶׁת". We grow in faithful obedience, one step at a time.
"Then you are breaking the Levitical law."
No. Torah makes provision for unintentional sin (e.g., Nu.15:25).
Lev. 12? Well, the Messiah has not yet restored the Levitical service (Mal.3:4)...so there's only so much we can do while in diaspora (Jas.1:1).
Don't worry! We WILL again obey 100% (Dt.30:1-8).
Why did Moses tell the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , that the LORD would raise up to them a prophet like unto him , that would give them all that they desired at Horeb or Mount Sinai ; and if they believe not the words that he would speak in his name , he will require it of them . What did they desire at Horeb or Mount Sinai ? Covenant ; and Jesus said the same thing in John 12:44-50 . When you say Jesus Christ is the end of the law for righteousness , do you fully understand what Jesus Christ came to do ? Jesus Christ is a sin sacrifice of faith ; repenting of your sins with a sorrowful heart like king David did , then believing by keeping his commandments ; which he received from the Father ( Mark 1:14-15 ; which is the gospel ) . If Jesus Christ is a sin sacrifice for the atonement of your sins , then the law you are talking about is also a sin sacrifice for sin . Jesus Christ is the end of the law of animal sacrifice for righteousness ; the sin atonement of the flesh for sin , through the mediator Moses , under the priesthood of Leviticus . The law of animal sacrifice was to clean the flesh , not the heart , because it was not of faith ( Repenting of your sins with a sorrowful heart , then believing by keeping the commandments of your mediator Jesus ; which he received from the Father ) ; but of works ( blood sacrifices and oblations ) . The new covenant is : To be under the mediator Jesus blood , you must live by faith ; that's why he said that he would put his laws into their minds , and write them in their hearts ; Not on two tablets of stone , and written in ink , in the book of the covenant . Moses gave the laws of God to the people on two tablets of stone and written in ink in the book of the covenant , but the children of Israel did not believe it ; with the mediator Jesus , you cannot come under his blood until you start keeping the words of the Father ( 1 John 1:5-7 ) . The new promises are eternal life with the Father and Son ( Revelation 22:14 ) .
This is the kind of philosophy about which Paul warned. "Fulfilling" means "fill to overflowing." It does NOT mean "to render void by virtue of accomplishment." He filled up the meaning of the Law by being the Passover Lamb.
Acts 15:19-21 tells the new believers to obey 4 laws and continue to learn more. The 4 laws that must immediately be obeyed are, "abstain from pollutions of idols, fornication, eating strangled animals and eating blood." Abstaining from these 4 things are the minimum requirements needed before continuing to study. Moses is read in the synagogues every Sabbath.
The pollution of idols would include erecting and decorating trees and observing other feasts of pagan gods, even if they were renamed to accommodate Jesus.
My goodness one could randomly listen to John Piper and it would be a fresh breath of Truth! Thanks Pastor John.
Acts 15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question.
3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and they caused great joy to all the brethren. 4 And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. 5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”
6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”
Yes, according to what Act 15:1 establishes as the context, we do not need to be circumcised to be justified, and that is what the apostles decree. New believers don't need to take on the false gospel of Rabbinic Judaism which demanded circumcision as the means by which a gentile could convert to Judaism. This is NOT what God's Law requires though, in the Law the people were justified by faith , by the covenant that God made with Abraham - just as Paul teaches that we are justified by the covenant that God made with Abraham. It was Rabbinic Judaism that tried to make obedience to their perverted version of the Law given at Mt Sinai the means by which we are justified. we are not to seek to be justified by their law, also simply referred to in the NT as circumcision. In Gal 5:2 Paul talks about this ............""Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. ""
It sounds pretty clear doesn't it. Or does it. Its interesting that bible teachers óften ONLY quote this verse as though it proves that Paul taught against believers getting circumcised in accordance with God's Law, but that is not ALL that Paul said, KEEP READING. Paul continues to clarify what he is teaching us about, it's not about how a justified -by -faith believer is meant to walk out their faith, it's about HOW A PERSON IS JUSTIFIED.
Gal 5:3-4 ""And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
You have become estranged from Christ, YOU WHO ATTEMPT TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; you have fallen from grace."................ Is it really intelectually honest to say that Paul is teaching that no one should get circumcised ever from proof texting Gal 5:2?
@@nvdxn Nice points!
But notice that Paul requires justification by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) and GRACE (Rom.3:24) and in the SPIRIT (1Cor.6:11) and by works (says James, 2:24).
Not Torah alone (sorry misguided Pharisees)
Not faith alone (sorry Protestant Reformation!)
Not grace alone (sorry John MacArthur)
Not the Spirit alone (sorry Charismatics/Pentecostals)
Not works alone (sorry "nice" people)
But TOGETHER!
@@bibleguy9857 yes, I can see where you are going, as Paul teaches in Rom 2:13, those who are justified are not just hearers of the Law, they are doers of the Law. I would also agree that true faith is not just a belief in Jesus, but true biblical faith in the Scriptures is defined as obedience to His Word, as Paul also teaches us in Gal, the justified man lives by faith. However, in Gal Paul is teaching us that Rabbimic Judaism had exchanged the biblical definition of faith and the covenant God made with Abraham which is how we are justified for requiring people to get circumcised. Abraham had faith in God before he was circumcised, his circumcision was the SIGN of his faith. We are called to walk in the same steps of faith as Abraham who had faith without being circumcised, BUT Abraham did get circumcised in obedience to YHVH (Rom 4&Gen 26:5) . The justified person is not thumbing their nose at God's Law, the justified person is keeping it, just like Abraham
@@nvdxn Lots of good points, thanks!
"The justified person is not thumbing their nose at God's Law, the justified person is keeping it, just like Abraham"
Well, that's true IF the justified person is also choosing to literally do what Abraham also literally chose to do: ""[Abraham] obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.” (Ge.26:5).
So, yes, we are justified/righteous by faith, immediately....BECAUSE we thus choose to subsequently grow in faithful obedience to ALL God's instructions available to us.
And since the Torah of Moses (Jer.31:33) is given to CHRISTIANS in the New Covenant (cited at Heb.8:10;10:16), we righteous Christians should (like Abraham) choose to grow in faithful obedience to God's Torah available to us....ALL Torah (not just the 10 Commandments...)
"BUT Abraham did get circumcised in obedience to YHVH"
Right...but the ongoing mark of circumcision is INFANT circumcision (Ge. 17:12;Lev.12:3), NOT adult-male-gentile-convert circumcision, and I think this is why Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16;1Cor.7;19) while simultaneously opposing adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision (1Cor.7:19).
blessings...
@@bibleguy9857 is 1 Cor 7 the only objection you have to the continuing covenant of circumcision?
Liberty in Christ Jesus... walking in the Spirit of God, unceasingly prayerful with conviction.
Colossians 3:17 New International Version (NIV)
17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
🙏🔥🥰🛐✝️ Amen
well even pastors who studied the bible their whole lives never really understood the law either, they think it's gone and done away. Their Jesus came down to teach them how to break His own laws. Like the SABBATH and Food Laws.
Here's what tho, the sabbath is binding for sure. How can it not be? It's in the 10 commandments!! Jesus even taught us how to keep it exactly. He did it by showing the people how He keeps it. And to do so, He had to oppose the tradition of the religious system in His time.
Because the rabbis of His time destroyed the sabbath and made it a burden for the people instead of it being blessing.
Now the Food Laws. It has nothing to do with salvation. But here consider this! The Food Laws IS GOD'S WISDOM SHARED TO US so that we would know what is and isn't good for our bodies. Take that principle and SEE FOR YOURSELF that God really cares for your well being. Yes, even up to the food you eat. Why wouldn't He share that? There weren't any Scientists or FDAs in those days to tell you that those meats are bad. And get this; would you slaughter and eat a RAT? For food? RATS and PIGS are in the same category by the way; UNCLEAN ANIMALS; UNCLEAN MEATS. And so is dogs meat, cats meat, snakes, and the like (Leviticus 11)
So that said, please rethink your beliefs about things even as simple as food. Because God cares about your wellbeing. Why do u reject Him even in these things. He only wants the best for you.
...and then John Piper is just now adding "pork" in the letter to the corinthians. Even tho it isn't even there. But anyhow, JP can't even explain "If you love me, keep my commandments" either.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome" because we love God, we keep His commandments in our hearts and do them.
Bryan Yaun you are 200% correct brother. According to Scripture, pork isn’t food period. This Piper guy is full of christianese bullshit sorry to say.
Yes, they did understand it. Obviously it was not meant to continue today. The meat laws were based on the assumption of meat NOT being cooked. Did you know that grasshoppers and frogs are kosher?
@@foolishdrunk2181 'the meat laws were based on the assumption of meat not being cooked' - have you got a verse for that?
frogs are kosher?
can you show the verse which says frogs are clean?
On this subject with the Old Testament law, are we supposed to tithe? If not, then we are still supposed to give each according to their heart since God loves a cheerful giver, which means there is no set percentage as to how much to give to the Lord.
Dave C john Macarthur has a good sermon on tithing. It's not a tenth, the tenth was actually a tax (since Isreal was a theocracy). Christians are required to give whatever they feel they can with gladness and fervency. Hope you can find his sermon!
Dave C www.biblebb.com/files/tithing.htm
TITHES should be given to the STOREHOUSE ("אוֹצָר", Mal. 3:10) which is not presently available.
So we can't tithe according to Scripture, while in our present diaspora.
We WILL again obey 100% of ALL Torah (Dt.30:1-8) when we return to inherit the land promised to us (Mt.5:5;Gal.3:29).
We can tithe if we choose, or give more than that if we choose, but tithing is a Levitical law and we are no longer REQUIRED to do it. We are required to give at least some monwy to help the poor.
May YHWH continue to Bless you in YESHUA's name, John†
Unfortunately John is painfully wrong on this with all due respect. He quotes Matthew 5 and then affirms the opposite of what Yashua is saying. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” So to John, to fulfil means destroy or abolish as other translations put it. The very thing He said he wasn’t doing. Yashua said “till heaven and earth pass away”. Heaven and Earth are still here! Nothing has changed when it comes to God’s Law. Yashua didn’t come to earth to destroy God’s perfect Law.
Mark 7:14 -19 is talking about eating bread without washing your hands. The Pharisees based on the Talmud (their oral law/tradition) would wash their hands ceremonially before every meal. Yashua was attacking their tradition that they held in a higher view than the Word of God. This is not talking about pork. Read a few verses earlier for the context.
John’s “key text” where Jesus declares all foods clean isn’t even in Bibles that are 60 years or older. That text is in parenthesis indicating it was added by the translator at some point.
This view that John and most of Christianity holds (and I myself once held) makes Yashua a false prophet based on Duet 13. In this view He has taken away from God’s Law therefore disqualifying him from being the Messiah.
All of the arguments or scriptures used against keeping God’s Law are taken out of context. Please test these things against scripture.
Mike M I don't see a problem with the arguments of John. Romans 7:1-6 and passages like Galatians 2:16 and the others he refered to must be enough to prove that christians are not supposed to live by the law of moses but by the law of the Spirit. Only those who have the Spirit of God abiding in them can accomplish this (Romans 8:9). And salvation is by grace, through faith in Jesus(Ephesians 2:8) with faith that works through love (Galatians 5:6) and love is the fullfillment of the law of moses (Romans 13:8-10). Blessing I pray God gives you understanding of his Word. Glory to God. Amen
I agree Mike. The Law is not done away with and still has its place in being a doer of the word. Sin is the transgression of the law, so saying there is no longer a law is to say there is no longer sin. There are so many ways of concluding that the law is not done away with. Did Jesus keep the law? Absolutely! Are we not called to do as Jesus did? Yes! Is the Holy Spirit from Almighty God? Would the Spirit of God move a believer to not keep His commandments or to want to obey as much as possible joyfully? Thank God for His commandments!
What do you think about the time Jesus told Peter to eat a bunch of unclean foods including pork? And the time Jesus said what goes into a person doesn’t defile him, but what comes out of his heart.
If we are under any of the laws. Jesus died for absolutely nothing.
The whole point is to Love God and Love others. That is why Jesus said the Law and the prophets could be summed up in those two versus. Stop putting a yoke on peoples necks that no one can keep. That is the essence of Romans and Galatians. Live by the Spirit and you are not under the Law. Does anyone in these comments actually read their Bible? In the book of Acts God said not to call anything unclean that God cleansed. You have to understand why the Law was here and what it symbolized to realize why when Jesus came we came under a new Covenant. Read Jeremiah 31:31-34. Everyone in these comments speaks from ignorance and are trying to place people back under bondage. God said through Jeremiah 31:31-34
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, [h]though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their [i]hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
have you read Acts?
God didn't say not to call anything 'UNCLEAN' that he had cleansed.
He said '"What God has cleansed you must not call COMMON."
Acts 10:15
'COMMON' is not the same thing as 'UNCLEAN'
No. The Old Testament was a covenant between God and the nation of Israel. The New Testament is a covenant between God and ALL people.
Peter, James and Paul advised the first-century church to unhitch from the law of Moses when it came to the Gospel being preached to Gentiles in Antioch...and the early Church and the disciples did NOT require the newly converted Gentiles to follow the laws in the Old Testament or Torah in order to join the church.
You are wrong.. The old covenant was between God and the nation of Israel.. The new Covenant is a covenant also between God and the nation of Israel.. Hebrew 8:8.. We Gentiles were grafted only to Israel on our faith..
@@Dave-gk5yj you're both right. 🤗💯
@@koraegis Actually.....no. The New Covenant is ONLY between God and ISRAEL (Jer.31:31;Heb.8:8). Sure, ANYBODY is presently invited to join Israel. But when you become a believer, you are NOT EXCLUDED FROM ISRAEL (Eph.2:12).
It's about joining ISRAEL.
And in the future, we Israelites will be supreme above all other nations (as God has always intended).
The ten commandments are in the old testament
@ case930 - “For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are ‘not under the law’ but under grace. - Apostle Paul
he was also talking about the traditions of the Pharisees and washing hands.
How do you know
@@yoboijerry5519 it says it in that passage - Mark 7 is about a tradition of the elders which was not one of God's Commandments
Mar 7:1 Then the Pharisees and some of the scribes came together to Him, having come from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 Now when they saw some of His disciples eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 When they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other things which they have received and hold, like the washing of cups, pitchers, copper vessels, and couches.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?"
we know its not one of Gods commandments, its called a 'tradition of the elders', and because of what Jesus says about them rejecting God's Law in favour of obeying their own traditions
Mar 7:6 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
Mar 7:7 in vain do they worship me, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’
Mar 7:8 You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.”
Mar 7:9 And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
Jesus said we are not defiled if we don't wash our hands according to their tradition
Mat 15:20b "But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”
We all have sinned and fell short of the glory to God. The problem is, that God is holy and doesn’t live with sin. So we all deserve to go to hell, but Jesus paid the price so you don’t have to. All you have to do is confess Jesus as your savior and repent (turn from all sin) and you’ll bs forgiven and on the way to heaven
The Bible is a two edge sword. Just love God and love your neighbor. That's what GOD would like us to do.
Jesus came not to abolish the LAW but to set us free from the curse of it, which is to think we have to or need to do certain things to be acceptable to God thereby earning Gods salvation by works. i think it comes down to the person. I follow the dietary commands not because its law but because I like to please, and respect God.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18)
It could not be any more clear. Absolutely nothing in the Law will disappear until everything is accomplished.
"Not a a word of the law shall Change until the Heaven and Earth disappear" Earth is still here.we are still under the Old Law.
God bless you John Piper.
“Because every creature of God is good, and nothing to be thrust away, but having been received with thanksgiving;”
- 1Tim 4:4 (LITV)
“for through God's Word and supplication it is sanctified.”
- 1Tim 4:5 (LITV)
No. The law spoke to sin producing in the believer a defiled conscience. Men laboured under a constant sense of guilt and shame and condemnation. They were never free in their spirit to serve the Living God. The Law resulted in spiritual bondage. (Gal 4:24).
The “old way of the written code”, the old covenant, was a “ministry of death” in that it served to "bring forth fruit unto death". (2Cor 3:7; Rom 7:4-6).
The “new way of the spirit”, the new covenant, was a “ministry of life”(2Cor 3:6). In that it served to "bring forth fruit for God". (Rom 7:6).
The Spirit (of Grace) is Love. The Spirit spoke to the heart. It set free from a “defiled
conscience”; from guilt and condemnation, and spiritual bondage. "For freedom Christ set men free" "to serve the living God" (Gal 5:1; 13; 2:19).
What we see here is a change of status, positionally, before God, as far as God is
concerned. No longer is there a consciousness of "sin-law-death-condemnation" to those in Christ Jesus; now there is a consciousness of "righteousness-grace-life-approval" (2Cor 5:21: Rom 5:18: 8:1-3) And that was truly liberating; setting believers free in the spirit of their minds to serve the Living God with joy and praise.
There is no "sin-consciousness" in Christ thus there is no need for law in Christ.
I don't know what to believe. It seems like it depends on who I am listening to determines whether we can eat pork. Paul makes it seem like we can eat pork in Romans 14,however, Paul also makes it seem like we shouldn't (sin is breaking the law, and Paul says we shouldn't sin just bc grace abounds). Secondly, everyone has different opinions on what Jesus said. Some say we can eat pork bc of that passage in mark, and others say we can't bc of matthew 5. Lastly, Isaiah 66 prophecies that those who eat unclean animals will be killed. And revelation 18: 2 makes it seem like eating unclean animals is still wrong. Not to mention acts 15 says we don't have to follow the law.
Can someone plz help me understand all of this!!!
Keep it simple, we are saved by grace through faith ALONE in Jesus Christ. The rest is extra. Not to say you shouldn't do these things, but what ever you do don't lose sight of the one who did it all and redeemed you by being the propritiation of all your sins (past, present and future). That being said strive for holiness and sanctification with christ in mind. Read the bible and pray over these things. I myself try not to eat anything listed in leviticus 11, however I am not obnoxious about it in gatherings with other believers, because it may lead them to be confused, or even worse to become legalistic. This race isn't a 100m dash, it's a marathon in which you will fall and seem to get lost. But you will realize that you have entered that race through the narrow gate and ran on the straight way when you put your faith in God to guide you on your way via his Holy Spirit. Just DONT LOSE SIGHT OF CHRIST. the rest will fall in place
Anepicflyingbrick _ Paul made it clear. Live by the Holy Spirit and you will no longer remain under the law because it will be written on your heart to Love God and Love others.
I love listening to Pastor John Piper. I respect and find his ministry helpful. With that I completely disagree and want to point out that the scripture text of Mark 15:19 does not say “thus he made all foods clean” that was added by the translators in the ESV bible John uses. It even says it was added on the ESV bible and that it is not what Jesus said. We as Christians must reject that added verse and not use it as a stepping stone to build the doctrine of eating what we please. Keep in mind Jesus speaking to his apostles taught them to keep the law of Moses and to take it to heart the things written by God. Very misleading and Pastor John should be rebuked for that. Let me add the verses in Galatians and Colossians doesn’t command to not obey laws for food. It’s specifically talking about trying to be justified by the law. That the law itself can not save you or you can not enter into God’s kingdom by circumcising yourself. You must trust in the work of Christ on the cross and his resurrection that is the body of Christ. The focus is Jesus Christ. Colossians 2:16 is speaking about let no one judge you for keeping what God has commanded. It later goes on to say that do not follow the teachings and commands of men. Keep in mind the laws in Torah where given to Moses by Almighty Godhead which Jesus was completely apart of not men. Please everyone relook at the verses with a more word for word text like KJV, MEV or NKJV. Don’t forget that the laws given to Moses where given by God. Don’t forget Jesus taught his disciples Torah principles. Don’t forget Paul is addressing a lot of issues going on during that time. God bless and test every spirit!!!
@@dustinhuie don't listen to Paul listen to God
The key to understanding Paul in the NT is to slow down and read what he wrote more carefully. Actually the whole NT needs to be read more carefully. For example in Mark 7 how does the context go from eating bread with unwashed hands to suddenly the Messiah is supposed to be changing the food laws and declaring unclean animals to now be clean??? Obviously He did NOT do that, no where in Mark 7 or Matt 15 does it mention unclean animals, they were not the context of that passage. The irony is that in the 1920's that line about 'declaring all food is clean'got added to Mar 7 in an effort to prove that Jesus declared unclean animals to now be clean, BUT, the author of Mark was NOT a Gentile who calls every slug, snail, and lizard FOOD. In the bible when it comes to what animals God says we can eat , the clean animals that are defined as FOOD are listed in Lev 11, so I don't have any problem with someone inserting that sentence, becasue FOOD IS CLEAN according to Lev 11. Even when you eat it without washing your hands according to THE TRADITION OF THE ELDERS, hand washing is a MAN-MADE MADE UP LAW found in Rabbinic Judaism that is not found in God's Law. If you want to know more about the hand washing in Mark 7 I reccomend this video by an ex-Pharisee ua-cam.com/video/7TGGGkLLifc/v-deo.html
He breaks things down very well.
I agree.
All due respect he doesn't. but his actual overall position is good.
Stilgar74 how would you go about explaining this? I'm genuinely curious.
Nathanael Kelly There's a lot in his statements to unpack.. and to be honest because he ultimately 'lands the plane' in the right spot, i'm typically less concerned with the how he got there.. unless there's negative fallout from his statements.. Anyway, I think it's always a bad idea to go to food laws as a way to deal with legalism or still being 'under the law', two different things for a number of reasons. But I digress... ultimately his exposition of Mark 7 in my opinion is faulty in the declaration of all foods being clean. (he ignores the context found in v2) and the fact that if Jesus was declaring non-kosher food (pork) clean there and then, then he would be transgressing the Law. Changes in the food laws have always been per covenant, i.e. vegetarian (Adamic), All Animals (Noahic), Kosher (Moses) etc... and the covenant Jesus instituted was at his death and resurrection. Food was still a reasonable issue for the early church as you can see from Paul's writings but it certainly wasn't a non-issue per the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15). Which leads me to my main point which is the subtle language of Replacement theology. John Piper seems to paint a purely multi-ethnic view of the Body which is fine unless you miss the part where that Body is 'grafted' into the 'Commonwealth of Israel'. And this is where the damage is done. What to eat and what not to, is an issue not of salvation (which is not by works), but an issue for the Jewish Church if you will, where just as 'circumcision' continues to affirm Jewish identity keeping 'Kosher' also does for many. Let's face it our distinct identity is celebrated in Christ, not hidden. With the phenomenon of gentiles coming to Christ and what that would mean is ultimately why there was a council about it in Acts 15, and what would be right for gentiles to abstain from, including what they should or should not consume. Anyway.. as I said, he ultimately lands the plane on the runway of 'freedom from the law' which is where it should have landed.
stilgar74 what you say sounds good!.. Yea, i guess Mr. Piper didn't seem to give a general rule about which laws are still in effect. I'm pretty sure most Christians wouldn't throw out laws such as don't put your kid in the fire, or a man shouldn't sleep with his aunt, or laws such as not accepting gifts if you are a judge, or the law about enemy losing his ox (in our generation it might be a wallet).. you need to return it to him. (these are 4 laws i picked that have no specific reference in new testament), and of course there are many laws we don't follow, such as sacrificing a animal every time we sin, so i wonder what the golden rule is.. which to follow, which to not follow. I suppose whatever laws are covenant related are negated?
The text that states He declared all foods clean is disputed both to meaning, and even authenticity. Kosher was certainly still in effect for Israelites, even Jesus, BEFORE the cross, and in order to be without sin Jesus would keep them. A better text might be Acts 15: 22 to 29.
Yes, in keeping with the first principle of interpretation re: Mark 7.19, Peter's vision in Acts 10:9-28 is insightful.
One Of Many lets say your right eating or even going into a place with gentiles would make us unclean. It would mean circumcision is still necessary but no the new testament say if one gets to justify themself by those things. There are justifing themself with dead works its by faith you are saved and this faith brings about works of love for god and man.
Yes. That line of text was added. "Thus Jesus declared all foods clean."
It's not supposed to be there!!
Not today Satan!!
@@rebeccajade5246 Of COURSE all foods are clean!
But that doesn't prove everything in your mouth is food!
FOOD is, in context, what is acceptable according to SCRIPTURE (i.e., Lev.11).
Thus, Jesus applies Lev. 11 to you (Mt.5:19).
Peter applies Lev. 11 to you (1Pe.1:16).
Paul applies Lev. 11 to you (2Ti.3:16).
blessings..
Bible Guy I agree lol
“But we know that the law is good, provided one uses it legitimately. We know that the law is not meant for a righteous person, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and irreverent, for those who kill their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral and homosexuals, for kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching based on the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was entrusted to me.”
1 Timothy 1:8-11 HCSB
amen, the Law is good if its used lawfully
The Law teaches the righteous man how to live a righteous life that pleases God
Rom 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
To the unrighteous man, they are guilty before God and under the Law, under the curse of the Law.
Rom 3:19 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God.
To the unrighteous, the law is a ministration of death
I''m not to sure how we can be transformed into the image of Jesus if we dont follow his example
Spirit. Not letter
@@thomasmarchese2808 in Christ we obey the Torah in newness of spirit, not in oldness of letter.
Walking in newness of spirit doesn't mean we no longer walk as Jesus walked obeying the Torah.
Eze 36:25-27 "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YOU WILL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM."
A hard stony heart is a heart that does not what to hear the Torah
Zec 7:12 Yes, they made their hearts like flint, refusing to hear the law and the words which the LORD of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets.
In Christ we no longer have the Torah written on hard hearts of stone, instead we desire to obey God and we write the Torah on soft hearts of flesh which do want to obey Him - in the New Covenant Ezekiel tells us God takes away our old stony hearts that do not want to hear or obey His Law, and replaces them with hearts of flesh.
2Co 3:3 "clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart."
Someone who is not obeying Gods Law like Jesus did is neither walking in newness of spirit or in oldness of letter - if they are not even trying to obey the Torah they are just workers of lawlessness - see Matt 7:21-23, there is a bad end in store for workers of lawlessness.
Mat 7:23 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
To obey the Law in 'oldness of letter' means we considering God's Law to be nothing more than 'a list of rules', instead of understanding what His Law is - His instructions to us to live a righteous life.
Rom 7:7 Without His Law we would not know what sin is, and if we do not know what sin is we do not know what it is we need to stop doing.
People who serve God in 'oldness of letter' use His Law like some sort of rule book, trying to find loopholes in the way it is written so they don't have to obey the Law's they don't want to obey.
In my opinion if you want to know how to serve God in 'oldness of letter', a good example is the person serving in 'oldness of letter' who reads the Law and sees that there is no prohibition against a woman sleeping with a woman, so they come to the conclusion the Law doesn't address lesbianism, therefore lesbianism is not a sin!
Another good example (in my opinion) of using the Torah in 'oldness of letter' is a teaching I have heard from a pastor regarding sodomy.
This teaching says that because it's only a sin in the Law of God if a man to sodomises another man, that means its not a sin for a husband to sodomise his wife, or a wife to sodomise her husband, i.e. they are using the Torah in 'oldness of letter'.
So now that we are new creations in Christ we don't read God's Law like that - truly we can read Ps 119 and identify with everything written in it - we love God, we love the Messiah and we love the Torah.
Truly we understand that we cleanse our ways by obeying God's Word.
Matt 4:4&23:1-4 We fully obey Jesus who told us to 'live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, i.e. we hear and observe all the Law of God that we would hear being read from the Moses seat
So instead of approaching God's Law as though its just 'a list of rules', we understand that the Law is God's instructrions for us (i.e. 'Torah' means 'instruction').
So instead of looking for loop holes so we can get out of obeying certain commandments, because we are 'in Christ', we obey the whole Law in 'newness of spirit'.
So when we read where the Law calls a man sleeping with a man as he would with a woman' an abomination, we understand that also equally applies to a woman sleeping with a woman.
We don't serve Gid in 'newness of spirit' by disregarding and rejecting His Law!
That interpretation contradicts the whole message of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.
We serve God and follow Jesus by reading and obeying the Torah in 'newness of letter'.
A good example is Paul, he knew the Law forbids lesbianism - he even mentions it in Rom 1.
Paul wasn't adding to the Law, he was rightly dividing the word of truth and teaching it correctly, he taught the Law of God to the first century believers in 'newness of spirit'.
@@thomasmarchese2808 how does doing the Law in the Spirit work if you don't do the Law?
How do I obey the Law in the Spirit regarding committing adultery without obeying the Law regarding committing adultery as its written?
Yeshua never declared all meats clean in Mark 7:19. This phrase in modern translation is in (). It is added by translators. The original manuscripts definetly dont say it and the old english kjv translation also doesnt include this. Yeshua had just told the Pharisees that they were rejecting YHWHs commands to keep their own tradition. They were calling food eatin with unwashin hads unclean which was never commandef by YHWH. Besides this is 100% jewish context here. The Pharisees would not have been talking about biblical unclean foods because to all of them this wasnt even an option. These laws on food have been since creation. At least Noah knew about it.
Yes, this is often times one of the biggest challenges we face in modern society.
More in more in this time that we live, we see Ezekiel 37 coming to life. The nation of Israel is restored in 1948. More Jews are coming to know their Messiah as the Spirit of God brings them to life from the spiritual valley in Ezekiel 37 in which they are slain and they realize everything we have faced as Jews in terms of persecution was to turn us away from Yeshua by spiritual enemies as well as physical ones. But now we are victorious and there is nothing that can take us away from the opportunity of eternal life with God and we can stand up and fight against this stigma.
More so contemporary Christians teach the law is done away with. This is not true. It has been fulfilled.
Gentiles are not required to partake in physical circumcision, sacrifices, or specifically act as priests as they do in the torah, but everything else still applies and the torah is still a way of life for all mankind.
The Sabbath still applies and the original holidays of God are still intact.
Easter is a pagan holliday, so is Christmass. 1 Corinthians 10 objects to celebrating these holidays.
We should follow what is written in the bible.
well even pastors (like JP) who studied the bible their whole lives never really understood the law either, they think it's gone and done away. Their Jesus came down to teach them how to break His own laws. Like the SABBATH and Food Laws.
Here's what tho, the sabbath is binding for sure. How can it not be? It's in the 10 commandments!! Jesus even taught us how to keep it exactly. Because the rabbis of His time destroyed the sabbath and made it a burden for the people instead of being blessing.
Now the Food Laws. It has nothing to do with salvation. But here consider this! The Food Laws IS GOD'S WISDOM SHARED TO US so that we would know what is and isn't good for our bodies. Take that principle and SEE FOR YOURSELF that God really cares for your well being. Yes, even up to the food you eat.
...and then John Piper is just now adding "pork" in the letter to the corinthians. Even tho it isn't even there. But anyhow, JP can't even explain "If you love me, keep my commandments" either.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome" because we love God, we keep His commandments in our hearts and do them.
@@bryanyawn You are right! JP is wrong. Jesus requires ALL Torah (Mt.5:19). Paul requires ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16).
The SAME TORAH OF MOSES passes into the NEW Covenant (Jer.31:33).
blessings...
THe problem I see however...is that food and Sabbath are not the only laws there are...not even just the 10 commandments....Leviticus is FILLED with laws...why are we picking and choosing which ones to follow and which ones we do not?? Why the foo law, and not the law with mixing fabrics, or stoning...Sabbath and Food are not the only laws.
@@domrob3600 That's the point, Dom Rob! We must NOT arbitrarily pick-and-choose. We're not playing HOMETOWN CHRISTIAN BUFFET games here! We must grow in faithful obedience to ALL properly observable Torah portions, while in our present diaspora. Sure, many Levitical laws are presently unobservable while in diaspora; but don't worry! We WILL again obey 100% (Dt.30:1-8) when the Messiah restores all Levitical sacrifices (Mal.3:4). And, the mixed-fabric law is generally not too hard to obey while in diaspora, so let's grow in obedience to that one too! The STONING laws are generally NOT observable, because we are presently banished throughout the world, living in countries whose civil laws forbid stoning. So, we'll probably need to wait until we return to inherit the land (Dt.30:1-8) when we will again obey 100% of all Torah (including the stoning laws) at that future time. CONCLUSION: Do what you can....knowing that even Moses promised us that 100% obedience will not again occur until AFTER we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8). blessings in the Messiah...
I love listening to Pastor John Piper. I respect and find his ministry helpful. With that I completely disagree and want to point out that the scripture text of Mark 15:19 does not say “thus he made all foods clean” that was added by the translators in the ESV bible John uses. It even says it was added on the ESV bible and that it is not what Jesus said. We as Christians must reject that added verse and not use it as a stepping stone to build the doctrine of eating what we please. Keep in mind Jesus speaking to his apostles taught them to keep the law of Moses and to take it to heart the things written by God. Very misleading and Pastor John should be rebuked for that. Let me add the verses in Galatians and Colossians doesn’t command to not obey laws for food. It’s specifically talking about trying to be justified by the law. That the law itself can not save you or you can not enter into God’s kingdom by circumcising yourself. You must trust in the work of Christ on the cross and his resurrection that is the body of Christ. The focus is Jesus Christ. Colossians 2:16 is speaking about let no one judge you for keeping what God has commanded. It later goes on to say that do not follow the teachings and commands of men. Keep in mind the laws in Torah where given to Moses by Almighty Godhead which Jesus was completely apart of not men. Please everyone relook at the verses with a more word for word text like KJV, MEV or NKJV. Don’t forget that the laws given to Moses where given by God. Don’t forget Jesus taught his disciples Torah principles. Don’t forget Paul is addressing a lot of issues going on during that time. We as believers are given the Holy Spirit that writes upon us the conviction of sin. That we would not be condemned but rise in Jesus to do the Fathers will given in the law. But much greater than the law to focus on Jesus establishing the law with in our minds. God bless and test every spirit!!!
The law still should be obeyed. But the law don't save us, Christ does. Christ is the only one who kept the law, so we're covered in His blood through Faith and passed over from punishment. Jesus didn't come to do away with the law and Paul was addressing those who look to the law for salvation. Remember the law is all about love, for love completes it. Love God and love your neighbors as your self. Like God told Jeremiah, the new covenant is about giving a new heart that's willing to obey. Obey what? God's Will, His laws, His teachings. And His spirit helps with that but only through Faith in Christ and obeying His teachings do we receive the Spirit to help us be like Christ who uphelded the law and died in our place.
Thank you pastor John
That's is directly to the ones (Jewish) who have forsaken our Lord blessings which has been upon them for EONS and my God bless the reading of the Words pastor John peace
This podcast is gold
'Behold, one came to him and said, "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" He said to him, "... if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." He said to him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, "'You shall not murder.' 'You shall not commit adultery.' 'You shall not steal.' 'You shall not offer false testimony.' 'Honor your father and mother.' And, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
Matthew 19:16-19
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. A second likewise is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."
Matthew 22: 36-40
amen
when we obey the whole law we are either loving God or loving our neighbours because all the Law is teaching us how to love God and love our neighbours.
If you want to inherit eternal life, keep the Commandments - obviously Jesus didn't intend to present a comprehensive list of the ONLY commandments we need to keep - he was presenting the ones that are regarding loving our neighbour as a teachable moment to a particular person - obviously we are also supposed to keep the Commandments which are about loving God.
@@nvdxn Amen💜
"good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws"
-Plato
"Love doesn’t harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law."
- Romans 13:10
'For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”'
- Galatians 5:14
May the Lord bless you & keep you 💜
@@Belief_Before_Glory
you say 'a good person does not need laws to tell them to act responsibly'
"No one is good but One, that is, God." Yeshua (Matt 19:16-17)
"I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET." Paul (Rom 7:7)
Only a righteous person will be subject to the Law, the unrighteous, carnal sinful person is not subject to the Law of God - Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
@@nvdxn Friend, I prefer not to play with semantics. For what it's worth, I believe that we both know that Plato was using the word somewhat loosely. Only God is *absolutely* good, but the Bible does use "good" when referring to people:
"For he was a 👉good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and of faith, and many people were added to the Lord."
- Acts 11:24
From the mouth of Jesus Himself (using the word *loosely* ):
"The 👉good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings out that which is good..."
- Luke 6:45
"A 👉good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children..."
Proverbs 13:22
I believe you get the gist.
As for the law, God has written the law in our hearts and minds, but very few of us actually listen to the inner voice, which is there to guide us:
"...I will put my law in their inward parts, and I will write it in their heart..."
- Jeremiah 31:33
'...“I will put my laws on their heart, I will also write them on their mind;”...'
- Hebrews 10:16
I wish you the best 💜
@@Belief_Before_Glory
In the Scriptures having the law written on your heart meant a person learnt the Law and obeyed it - in the first Covenant God commanded His people to write the Law on their hearts and minds - in the new Covenant the Law will be written on our hearts and minds - its the same thing but actually better (i.e. a superior promise as Hebrews says), but for some reason Churchianity thinks having the law written on their heart means they no longer have to familiarize themselves with the written Law
Rom 7:7 alone refutes the doctrine that having the Law written on your heart means you don't need to learn it and obey it. If Paul knew having the law written on his heart meant he just needed to listen to his 'inner voice' why is he saying if he didn't know that the Law said not to covet he wouldn't have known not to covet?
You have obviously made up your mind on this topic regarding obeying God's Holy Scriptures, and its not my job to change your mind, thats the work of His Holy Spirit, so may God judge between us.
Shalom
NO!!!! Paul in Romans seeks to show that the Law did not make men righteous but instead gave them the knowledge of sin. Therefore there was a need for a new way of righteousness, the way of forgiveness through faith in Jesus’ sacrifice. He wanted his readers to understand that those who accept the sacrifice of Christ are living “under grace” and such would not produce a life of sin (as many thought) but a life of righteousness. Thus in Romans 7:1-6 Paul answers the question, “Shall we live in sin because we are under grace rather than under law?”
Not everyone that says unto me, ADONAI, ADONAI, shall enter into the Kingdom of YAHUAH; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, ADONAI, ADONAI, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye transgressors of the Torah. MATTHEW 7:21-23
All these people thought they were saved. They were even doing great wonders in His name. BUT THEY WERE DECIEVED AND REFUSED TO GUARD HIS TORAH CUZ THEIR PREACHER LIED TO THEM. THEY BELIEVED THAT THE TORAH WAS DONE AWAY WITH. THEY ALSO READ IN THEIR CORRUPTED KJV BIBLE. IN ROMANS 10:4 THAT CHRIST IS THE END IF THE LAW. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT TELOS THE GREEK WORD FOR END IN THIS TRUTH MEANS GOAL NOT END. SO THE CORRECT TRANSLATION IS HA'MASHIACH IS THE GOAL OF THE TORAH.
At the end of this passage you have the Greek work anomia which means lawlessness or without Torah. Yahusha is telling these people that think they are saved to depart from them because they are disobedient or oblivious to Torah. Lawless.
We live in an age where there's a lot of deception and 90% of all those churches out there all the lying to their congregations about the Torah. It's sad but true. One has to read the bible in context.
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Lots of good points, thank you.
SOMETIMES "TELOS" means termination, sometimes not.
In the LXX we find many examples where "TELOS" does NOT mean TERMINATION.
That's sufficient to prove that Rom.10:4 need not require the TERMINATION interpretation.
You are correct.
Fullfil does not mean do away with, it never has. God is the Torah, he is his laws, he can never be done away with or changed and neither can his Torah. Jesus kept the Torah perfectly, and we to strive to be like him so why not follow the laws he followed? Fullful in the Hebrew context means " to interpret the Torah correctly" that's what he came to do. The Pharisees had messed up, contorted and added to the Torah so much that Yeshua(Jesus). Had come and fix that. And the scripture that mr piper quoted about what goes into a mans stomach will defile him was not talking about food it was talking about the disciples not washing hands before eating bread
The Solomon Ant disobedience defiles you. Disobedience to what God has already said, like for example, eating the unclean?
Good talk, Pastor John. Everything you said in this subject agrees with the Catholic teaching.
Two extremes to be avoided: the error of the Judaizers, who want us to still keep the 300+ Levitical laws, and the opposite error of the antinomians, who think that Christian freedom means freedom from all law. Jesus repealed tge Levitical law at Luke 16:16 but in the very next verse, verse 17, He says that the ten commandments still stand.
One thing Pastor John could have added that would help people understand: the Levitical law never applied to anyone except the Jews, but the ten commandments were for all people at all times. commandments
Can someone explain to me how we can eat pork meaning disregard that law but then we uphold other Old Testament laws? I need to understand this once and for all lol. I’m stressed.
Trying to understand that law has been stressing me out too.
@@Spokojna I’m doing a study on all the laws. I can only speak for myself, but for example, when I started repenting for the sins of my ancestors and other various things in the Old Testament, my life improved significantly. But people will say “we aren’t under those laws anymore,” so I don’t know.
its not stressful if you just obey it - its only stressful if you are trying to keep some of it and not all of it.
If Jesus changed the Law, then He wouldn't be the promised prophet promised by YHVH in Deuteronomy 13 and 18. "Suppose a prophet or a dreamer of dreams rises up among you and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder he spoke to you comes true, while saying, ‘Let’s follow other gods’-that you have not known, and-‘Let’s serve them!’ You must not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams-for YHVH your God is testing you, to find out whether you love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul. YHVHyour God you will follow and Him you will fear. His mitzvot you will keep, to His voice you will listen, Him you will serve and to Him you will cling. That prophet or dreamer of dreams must be put to death! For he has spoken falsehood against YHVH your God, who brought you out from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to entice you from the way YHVH your God commanded you to walk. So you will purge the evil from your midst." - Deuteronomy 13:2-6
This is why the leaders in Judaism were trying to test Him constantly and trap Him in breaking the Law. If He started breaking the Law, then they would have had an easy time proving He wasn't the Messiah. We all know how the story ends, they couldn't find any fault in Him at all according to the written Torah.
So again, the question you need to ask yourself is "If Jesus came to change the Father's Ways, could He be the promised Messiah?"
Amen.
Jesus' indictment of the religious rulers was/is not, as these theologians like to say, that the Pharisees were super-scrupulous to a fault about following the Torah/ God's commandments. What was Jesus' charge against them?
Mark 7
JESUS: Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. *Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men,* as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, *Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.* For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; *Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered:* and many such like things do ye.
Touching the righteousness which is in God's law, the pharisees were not blameless. That may have been their assessment of themselves, but it wasn't and isn't God's.
JESUS: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: *but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.* For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
@@AnHebrewChild amen brother. A few other things we get from the Tanakh: YHVH’s Faith, Grace, Love, Forgiveness, Mercy.
Wait, when reading the passage referenced here recently the way I saw it was that, yes of course Christ fulfilled the law, we are no longer under/justified by it we are justified by His pure grace through faith which is a gift. The text agrees with that by saying there are people who kept the law and not who are all in the Kingdom, my worry and question comes from Christ saying that those who set aside the least of these laws will be called least in the Kingdom.
What does that mean?
We're not justified by it, we are justified by grace but if we don't keep the law we will be called least in the Kingdom?
Any help?
Matt 5
Amanda Cole I think that when u read it Jesus is referring to the things he is about to say. He specifically says,"whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven." 2 verses later Jesus starts talking about things we are to do.
Idk if this is correct, but it seems to be one of the few ways it doesn't contradict Paul
No Jesus in Matthew 5:17 says he did not come to abolish Torah/Law but to fulfill. Basically bring in to everyone heart and clean us from within. Than continues to say whoever disobeys the least commandment shall be least. The whole focus of chapter 5 is the law and keeping it not just outwardly but in our heart!!! This should help both of yall. God bless!!
We are justified by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) and GRACE (Rom.3:24) and WORKS (Jas.2:24) TOGETHER.
Not Torah alone (Gal.5:4-5; sorry misguided Jews!)
Not faith alone (Jas.2:24, sorry Protestant Reformation!)
Not grace alone (sorry John MacArthur!)
Not works alone (sorry "nice" people!)
BUT ALL TOGETHER.
FAITH is of TORAH (Mt.23:23;Ps.119:30,86,138;Dt.32:20).
Faith (Rom.10:8) is of TORAH (Dt.30:14 is cited at Rom.10:8).
blessings...
What i want to know is, is there a difference between Moses Laws the ceremonial, administrative laws .etc. vs Gods Law the 10 commandments?
Most of the Ten Commandments were repeated in the New Testament. Also, theologians draw distinctions in the Torah between "moral law" (i.e: Thou shalt not kill) and "ceremonial law" (i.e: In the place where they kill the burnt offering...).
I don't know where this is, but in the ark of the covenant the tablets of stone are inside the ark, and the handwritten ordinances where next to it.
@@ead630 murder* not kill
If you want to follow the laws of Moses, then you must follow all 613 commandments & not just the cherry picked ones.
@Razaiel : It is the Law of God, not Moses. Moses was just the channel through which the laws were conveyed, not the author of them. The only ordinances cancelled were those pertaining to blood sacrifices and the Temple, which Yeshua, later re-named "Jesus" by the Gentiles, fulfioled by His own blood sacrifice on the cross. The other laws pertaining to life are still in relevant.
amen - Deut 4:2 and Jam 2:9-10 inform us that keeping Gods law is all or nothing.
We obey Gods Law by not adding to or taking away from it, and if you choose to keep some of the Law while ignoring other parts of the Law you are guilty of not keeping it all.
This is not hard to understand, so its a curious phenomenon me when people still choose to show partiality in the Law by picking and choosing which laws they are going to keep - they choose to keep only those laws that they label as 'the loving ones' or those they apply the label 'moral' to, and ignore the others, or they say some of them were 'nailed to the cross' or as 'fulfilled by Jesus' and they choose not to obey them, they are cherry picking which ones they want to obey.
Fulfillment of the law: meaning that Jesus is the perfect example of how we should live our lives. Now ask yourself this question, would Jesus eat pork? NO..then why should we?
By your logic Christians should get circumcised too
@@HearGodsWord WRONG! Torah requires INFANT circumcision (Lev.12:3), not adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision.
That's why Paul requires ALL TORAH (1Cor.7:19) while simultaneously opposing adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision.
Torah does not REQUIRE adult-male-Gentile-convert circumcision.
Paul DOES require all Torah (1Cor.7:19;2Ti.3:16).
So does John (1Jn.5:3).
Peter even applies Lev. 11 to you (1Pe.1:16).
Stephen was full of the Spirit and wisdom which the liars could not resist....(Ac.6:10). The liars said Stephen opposed Torah (Ac.6:11-14). Thus, Stephen affirmed TORAH SHOULD BE OBEYED!
Brother you nailed it!
Then why Jesus said not a single letter is going to be taken out from the law. For me is confusion there
Disappointed to see such blatant misapplied scripture from John Piper. Galatians is about works based salvation, not following the law for obedience to Christ. His exegesis of Mathew 5:17-18 is impossible to follow and makes little sense, he fails to even mention the later half of the verse or the context which help determine the meaning. And the Mark 7:19 reference isn’t even scripture. (thus He declared all foods clean) is not part of the text, rather a scribal note in some manuscripts. It also doesn’t fit the context of the passage which is about not adhering to traditions of men (washing hands ritual).
Wonderful explanation. Thanks
so many believe the commandments and old laws are done away with well john 14:15 if you love me keep my commandments.
Yes! And Jesus commands TORAH (Mt.4:4;5:19-20;7:21-23;13:41-42;22:37;23:2-3,23,34;Lk.10:25-28).
@@bibleguy9857 I'm glad to know there are some that know this and live by it. ☺🙏
@@heatherartus2905 Yes! And it's encouraging to see our numbers growing....
Thanks for sharing these important truths with our brothers and sisters....
blessings...
But just to make it clear, i think the question was supposed to be can we keep the sabbath day. Because all other laws are fine , we must obey expect the sabbath day law
For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. (Mat 5:18)
Everything is not yet accomplished..not yet fulfilled. There is still his return and the resurrection and the millennial reign and many other things. Those are all prophesied in the law and the prophets and still have to be fulfilled.
This literally occurs in Revelation 21 at the conclusion of the millennial reign. "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first HEAVEN AND THE FIRST EARTH HAD PASSED AWAY, and the sea was no more." (Rev 21:1)
"And he said to me, “IT IS DONE (all is accomplished)! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment."(Rev 21:6).
This is why we see the Torah being kept in the future: Then everyone who survives of all the nations (Gentiles) that have come against Jerusalem shall go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Booths (Zec 14:16).
And why we see the Gentiles' eyes being opened near the last days as they realized that the version of Christianity that their preachers and parents have taught them is a lie and how they come to the realization that they have created their own version of God. "O LORD, my strength and my stronghold, my refuge in the day of trouble, to you shall the nations come from the ends of the earth and say: “Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, worthless things in which there is no profit (Jer 16:19)
And why we see the gentiles seeking to learn the Torah: The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow to it, and many peoples shall come, and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.” For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:1-3)
This is what the scripture teaches and what Yeshua taught. Every book in the entire bible is in perfect alignment with this message. That is until we get to Paul. Choose Yeshua because Paul cannot save you.
Don't let anything possess you
Except the SPIRIT who testifies we should obey Torah (Heb.10:15-16), even Torah ordinances (Eze.36:27) "from now and forever" (Is.59:20-21), so that we can STOP THE FLESH (Rom.8:13) which DISOBEYS Torah (Rom.8:7).
You must know the law but you must know Christ and understanding to understand it
.If we say we love Yah and do NOT obey his commandments we are a LIAR , and the truth is not in him.. Paul said let no one pass judgment on you regarding food or Sabbath .. This is in regard to people that ignored the laws who were judging the people that kept the laws very much the opposite of your misinterpretation.....
Thank God!!!!!
It's called the New Testament for a reason.
Hebrews 8:13.
The New Covenant makes the Old Covenant obsolete.
People who don’t trust Jesus return to the law! If that’s you, you better learn who your savior is. He desires your HEART, not sacrifice or burnt offerings. He was the ultimate offering, and sacrifice!!
Then why did God say to keep the commandments (in Leviticus) FOREVER. Why would he say for always if only meant a few hundred more years?? Paul was a false apostle. Look into it. We have no reason to trust him. There were 12 apostles not 13. He never even met Jesus and it was clear to be an Apostleof Christ that he had to have taught you directly. He was recruited by Satan to mislead people. It's a test. Yahweh was always warning us.
Bless John...I agree with where he lands the plane... but where the plane takes off from and the journey the plane takes is really bumpy.
Really faulty understanding of both Mark 7 and Galatians. Anyway like I said, the overall point is good.. which is FREEDOM
This is a terrible audio, no offense. This guy is telling his truth, not the Gospel true. Facts.
This question wasn't fully answered regarding the Old Testament and sensitively enough as it relates to the marriage situation.
The Lord YHWH would have stated clean and unclean meats in Genesis 7:2,3 talking of clean and unclean meats even before Moses and then expanded on this in Leviticus 11:1-23 and clean vs unclean in vs 24-47 now to say because of the blood of Christ these meats are now clean is more supposition than fact based.
What would have caused God to make the distinction between clean and unclean in the first instance. The reference was made to circumcision this has been stated as no longer binding.
Mans and animal original diet was "meat" being seed and herb which is Gen. 1:29,30 Flesh was allowed but with limitations, only now science has caught up with the "why" not to.
I also am concerned as this question was raised and desire more clarity on the question raised in light of my scriptural observation.
"The reference was made to circumcision this has been stated as no longer binding. "
Paul required ALL Torah (2Ti.3:16), and that includes Lev. 12:3.
Circumcision was not abolished.
I stopped at the usage of Mark 7 as evidence of not keeping the clean foods law. That passage is totally used out of context, and is in direct contradiction to the same scene in Matthew 15. The context of all that Christ said was because the pharasees condemned Jesus and his disciples for not washing their hands. Nowhere does Christ talk about clean or unclean foods. Do you really think there was pork, or another unclean food at the table where Jesus and his disciples sat to eat? No way. Read both texts, and you'll see that they are the same instance just told from different perspectives. The text that says "In doing so he commanded all meats clean", is an opinion of man, and in direct contradiction to God the Father. If Christ broke that law, he is no more Messiah than the man on the moon, and we are all decieved.
Specifically Matthew 15:20 will clear up what Jesus' meaning was, in both passages.
The Solomon Ant why wouldn't he or any of the other disciples eat it if declared it clean? Why then is God coming to judge those who eat pork, and the abomination as noted in Isaiah 65, and 66? It just doesn't add up. And as for God declaring He would do anyway with these laws is completely wrong as well, there does not exist any verses proving that God would do away with what he considers food to us, and what is not.
The Solomon Ant another study you should look into is the verse itself, in many Bibles, that passage isn't even included in the translation. Many modern verses has something completely different then what is written. Also think of the ramifications of Jesus going against what the Father said? He is promoting disobedience, if he did this, then He is not Messiah!
The Solomon Ant yet another point to consider is what the verse plainly says, "Jesus declared all foods clean". Well of course. It stands to reason that all the animals which God previously declared to be food, is clean. Unclean animals were never to be considered as food to begin with. Again, another reason the phrase makes no sense to the context of the rest of the passage, and is shown to be a translators note, and not scripture.
Joshua Amaya Romans 14:20
Then why did Jesus follow the law??? Man can tell us anything for their own profit. God’s word is from generation to generation. The maker of my body gave me instruction to take care of it. Like a parent guide their child. I will follow God’s law or guidance basically his love for me to live as long as the body he created can live. Ask yourself. Did Jesus ever eat pork?
The laws of Moses were on the side of the Sanctuary. These ceremonial laws were done away with at the cross. The law of God was in existence before the earth was made. Sin...is a transgression of the Law. Sin started in heaven with Lucifer. God's moral code is not a Jewish only Law. Likewise, if pork is not good for you to eat at one point then it will always be unhealthy...reason you don't eat flies, or rats. This guy does not understand.
It’s was social. Types. Shadows. To separate them.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore WHOEVER RELAXES ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHES OTHERS TO DO THE SAME WILL BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, BUT WHOEVER DOES THEM AND TEACHES THEM WILL BE CALLED GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven....... Every Christian pastor fails to recognize the remainder of this passage, also heaven and earth has not passed away.
Yes
Does this apply to the other Old Testament laws like cleanliness after discharge or semen
everyone on here got a different answer but who is actually right? no one knows except God.
That is what I'm saying. I'm trying to find the right answer, but there are a lot of overwhelming perspectives on it and I see good points on both sides, so I don't know.
@@daughteroftheking3220 The answer is Jesus my Friend. you have to pray to God in His name AND have an open heart/mind about what you are asking him. You have to believe for real and confess your sins with your mouth for real to God in Jesus Christ name. Most people have hardened hearts and everyone wants to be right but the answer is already present. its Jesus my friend. he got me to not kill myself and got me to stop smoking Weed after 9 years straight. people cant come to God because they think they are god. well if that was true we would be able to live as long as we want and wouldn't allow ourselves to go hungry or get sick. obviously we cant do that so we are not God. Pray to God in Jesus Name and really have a one on one with him. humble yourself and be honest with yourself before the Lord does it too you. God bless you🙏🙏
Luis Miranda God bless you, brother, thank you for the advice!🙏
@@daughteroftheking3220 Amen ! Glory and Praise goes to The Lord Jesus Christ. i ask him to use me to help others everyday. Ask anything in his name and he will give you it. he knows what is in your heart but we have free will so thats why we need to seek him on our own for real. then he gives us exactly what we need when we need it. I pray you find the peace i have found in the Savior Jesus Christ🙏🙏God bless you
What if applied to smoking weed? I think he said “td not what goes into a persons mouth that defiles them, it goes into their stomach and is expelled, but having weed smoked it is damaging to your lungs, and so what if we eat it to get a feeling? It all is so confusing to my heart
The point isn't where the product mentioned enters; we aren't supposed to use things to be "changed" from ourselves. One may drink, but not to get drunk.
With weed that can become an idol and the Bible says to be sober minded weather it’s alcohol or not smoking or even having sex those things you have to check because it’s feeding the flesh. And lastly all things are lawful but not all things are beneficial we shouldn’t do all things just because we can and God can forgive us!!!
@@rasheedrasheed1974 “sober minded = rational; sensible” -Google
If you want to fulfill the whole law of God: love your neighbor (galatians 5:14...
Love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:10)...
If you want to inherit eternal life: love your neighbor (Luke 10:25-37)...(Luke 18:18-22)
If you love your neighbor, you love Jesus...if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love Jesus...
Jesus is going to separate the sheep from the goats... the goats are going to everlasting punishment for not loving their neighbor (Matthew 25:31-46)...
Jesus is not going to ask the goats or the sheep, did you attended church on Saturday or Sunday? Did you speak in tongues? Did you cast out demons? Did you tithed? Did you prophesied? Did you worship God on Saturday or on Sunday? Did you do signs and wonders?
If you are helping out a stranger, (neighbor) you are fulfilling the whole law of God...
Love God.. love neighbor.. love one another, in Jesus name
The more you listen to these top theologians give their best answers for this question, you realize they have very little Biblical evidence backing up their view. They go to Mark 7, Acts 10, Acts 15, Colossians 2, a couple verses in Hebrews, Galatians and Romans and that's about it. The vast amount of Scripture points to the fact that Jesus and all His followers were fully committed to upholding the written Torah and the Prophets. The disciples and Paul didn't see any contradiction with upholding Torah and Grace. David didn't see any contradiction in Trusting in God for his salvation and upholding the entire Torah. We are grafted into Israel through faith in Jesus Christ. "if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me." - Jesus (John 5:46)
New wine; new skin- if Jesus fulfills the law it is not abolished but superseded.
If everyone still wants to cling to the law for their salvation, just ask yourself this honest question. Why did Christ have to die for you then?
So then the ten commandments don´t apply any more?
No, they do.
"17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, *Why* *callest* *thou* *me* *good?* *there* *is* *none* *good* *but* *one,* *that* *is,* *God.*
19 *Thou* *knowest* *the* *commandments,* *Do* *not* *commit* *adultery,* *Do* *not* *kill,* *Do* *not* *steal,* *Do* *not* *bear* *false* *witness,* *Defraud* *not,* *Honour* *thy* *father* *and* *mother.*
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, *One* *thing* *thou* *lackest:* *go* *thy* *way,* *sell* *whatsoever* *thou* *hast,* *and* *give* *to* *the* *poor,* *and* *thou* *shalt* *have* *treasure* *in* *heaven:* *and* *come,* *take* *up* *the* *cross,* *and* *follow* *me.*
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions."
Mark 10:17-22 KJV
The 10 commandments still apply today. If Jesus said, something that contradicted the 10 commandments, then they would not apply. Thank you and God Bless *:)*.
Ruben Håvik “The Tablets of the Covenant”, as they were referred to repeatedly in Exodus and Deuteronomy, were given specifically to the Children of Israel, as the written, tangible embodiment of the Covenant made between God and the Israelites, whom He had just brought out of Egypt.
Unless you were party to that Covenant, the 10 Commandments - or those that followed on the next 11 pages of my Bible - are NOT binding on you. That being said, do not think that the moral teachings (ie: Do not kill) contained therein should be disregarded.
The Levitical law has been repealed but the ten commandments still stand. If we understand these two things we understand this whole issue. See Luke 16:16-17.
Cgilbert to pastor John was the Ethiopian the first Jews Gen 2:13
God says not to eat pork.
Piper says you can.
Obey God. Piper will pay.
Someone added to the Bible that Jesus declared all foods clean. Be wise. Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees that said you had to wash your hands before eating food, he was not declaring unclean food to now be clean. Ridiculous.
Acts 10:9-16 would disagree with you, Mr. C.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh even people that do not keep God's dietary laws do not interpret acts 10 mean that we can eat unclean food. If you notice he is told not to call what God cleanse uncommon, he is not told that would God called unclean is now clean. He uses the term common. You should ask yourself why Peter was actually still keeping the dietary laws decades after Christ already rose from the dead. Acts 10 is about salvation coming to Gentiles and has absolutely zero to do with food.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh here is a good teaching that is very biblical about this subject.ua-cam.com/video/h5K0wihrhAA/v-deo.html
We dont live under the law (of moses) we live under grace, but under the 10 commandments, moses wrote the law, but God wrote with his finger the 10 commandments ! Moses gave us the law but Jesus Christ gave us Grace and Truth!
Read matthew 5:17-19. The laws were not done away with . john 3:5
We are supposed to fear YHWH and keep his laws and commandments!
Matthew @-18 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
1 John 2:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
John @
- He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth
me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love
him, and will manifest myself to him.
Deut @
O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear Me, and
keep all My commandments always, that it might be well with them, and
with their children for ever!
Deut 8:6
Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of YHWH thy Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to fear Him
Deut 13:4
Ye shall walk after YHWH your Elohim, and fear him, and keep His
commandments, and obey His voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave
unto Him.
Deut @
And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his
life:that he may learn to fear YHWH his Elohim, to keep all the words of
this law and these statues, to do them:
Deut @
Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy
stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may
learn, and fear YHWH your Elohim, and observe to do all the words of
this law:
Jos @
That all the people of the earth might know the hand of YHWH, that it is mighty: that ye might fear YHWH your Elohim for ever.
Psa 112:1
Praise ye YHWH. Blessed is the man that feareth YHWH, that delighteth greatly in His commandments.
Excellent! Thank you.
God never considered pigs food, EVER
Eating bacon is a sin
This was not part of Moses Law but this was part of Elohims plan. From the beginning of the time of Noah there was a distinction between clean and unclean food.
The list of food was only revealed in leviticus. This was not the law of moses. Also if it was the law of moses then that means tithe is no longer needed?
Please clarify biblically with no personal interpretations but with the fullness of the Word. Also with no contradictions
Cgilbert To my brother William Gonzalez you are considered to be a Gentile and they convenient left out you are also chosen to uphold the the of banner of true believer Romans 9:24 and pslam 27 my peace be upon you
Wow this answers long time struggle for me on foods the sabbath was other one I need to get clarification Sat or Sunday!? This site lays thing out pretty good on the foods hope I can find the one the on true sabbaths ! The
John Piper truly always speaks direct from scripture. He truly has the Holy Spirit with him!!!!
Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD.
Jer 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR MINDS AND WRITE IT ON THEIR HEARTS; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Eze 36:25 ""Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.
Eze 36:26 I will give you a new heart and "PUT A NEW SPIRIT WITHIN YOU; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YOU WILL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM".
??? if in the New Covenant we now have the Law written on our heart and in our minds and Ezekiel prophesied that we would be given the Holy Spirit so that we can keep God's Law, is the Holy Spirit going to direct a teacher to teach people not to keep God's Law? ??
How about eating food with pork blood as the main ingredients? I think this is prohibited because the Blood represents life and we are not to disrespect it by eating it. Please somebody prove me right or wrong.
Yes, the life is in the blood. The apostles told early Christians to abstain from foods containing blood.
All 10 commandments are found in the N.T. exept moses law, Grace is Christ's law of faith and justification!
Don't be silly!
Jesus requires even the SMALLEST of commands in the Torah of Moses (Mt.5:19) lest you be least (Mt.5:19) or worse (Mt.5:20) or worse (Mt.7:21-23) or worse (Mt.13:41-42).
Paul requires ALL Torah of Moses (2Ti.3:16).
John requires ALL Torah of Moses (1Jn.5:3).
Peter even explicitly applies Lev. 11 to you! (1Pe.1:16).
GRACE is Christ's law because GRACE is in TORAH (Ex.33:13), and CHRIST commands Torah (Mt.4:4;5:19-20;7:21-23;13:41-42;22;37;23:2-3,23,34;Lk.10:25-28).
GRACE extends to the humble (Jas.4:6). HUMBLE people obey TORAH (Nu.12:3;Ps.25:9;Ex.33:13;Zep.2:3).
FAITH is of TORAH (Mt.23:23;Ps.119:30,86,138;Dt.32:20).
JUSTIFICATION is by TORAH (Rom.2:13) and FAITH (Rom.5:1) TOGETHER.
Not Torah alone (Gal.5:4-5).
Not faith alone (Jas.2:24).
But Torah and faith TOGETHER (Rom.2:13+Rom.5:1).
@@bibleguy9857 I hope you live in a warm climate, Bible Guy, because the Levitical law forbids fires on Saturday.
Not touching any unclean thing is found in 2 Corinthians: 6. And Paul quotes God's law (mosaic law) many times throughout his letters
@@samstandridgedrums you just have to eat it cooked well-done, with no blood. That’s from Leviticus
I wonder what these verses mean then. It would be great if you helped me understand.
Mark 7: 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!
10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’
11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)-
12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother.
13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely,[b] both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, 17 and none of the condemned things[c] are to be found in your hands. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors- 18 because you obey the Lord your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.
I wholeheartedly disagree.
The scripture says don't do...
Deciding to personally live by that command isn't denying the work of Yahshua.
Yahshua clearly observed all the law.
Who does Yahshua say is least in heaven?
NO!!
Naah this guy's too good
Question ? When God gave Peter the dream with all the unclean animals and told him to rise and eat…. Why did Peter say I shall not because I have never eaten anything unclean….. why would he say that if Jesus, who already died and rose, did away with all unclean foods ?
Circumcision is the sign of the covenant of Faith with Abraham. It's a sign of the miraculous seed of God's promises.
In many cases when Paul talks about "circumcision" in his letters, he is most likely using that term as shorthand for going through the process of converting to the rules of Judaism. Judaism had made up a bunch on new rules in their "Oral Torah" which is wholeheartedly different than the Written Torah of the Bible. It's similar to how you would need to follow all the rules to convert to Catholicism or else they wouldn't count you as one of them. Those rules aren't in the Bible. They are made up.
If you throw out circumcision, you throw out the sign of the covenant of faith with Abraham.
“Thus says the Lord GOD: No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart and flesh, of all the foreigners who are among the people of Israel, shall enter my sanctuary." - Ezekiel 44:9
3.36 "He declared all foods clean" -- talk about taking a verse out of context! And a bad verse at that!! Not only is the Greek text suspect, the translation of the verse is suspect. Furthermore, this verse only comes up in one Gospel, so there is only one witness. All things are established with two or three witnesses. And on top of that, why would Jesus abolish HIS own law about food? If Jesus is part of the Trinity, HE wrote those Laws and the verse that says that no verse in Torah would change. So why does Jesus change it now? And in the back room at Peter's house somewhere. Is Jesus unstable? Is the Word of God not fixed? or are you dead wrong?????
His interpretation is affirmed by Romans 14 also.
It's not merely a suspect translation of the Greek (whether UBS, MGNT, or the received text), it's an outright fallacious insertion.
"By this he declared all foods clean" is not in either Alexandrian or Byz texts.
The older English Bibles render it right. Here's the King James Bible:
Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Think about what Jesus is saying here people.
JESUS BELIEVED GOD COULD NOT TELL US ALL HE WANTED TO, NOT ALL AT ONCE!
Perhaps one of the best ways to sum up the theme of the Bible is, NOT a collection of stories and prophesies and laws given by God to explain EVERYTHING He wanted humanity to understand, all at once...but a slow and grinding process of humanity inching along, often at a snail's pace, to grasp what the Spirit of God was trying to convey, but could only get across in small amounts at a time! Yes, it sure would have been nice if, somehow, humanity could have 1000s of years ago , in one fell swoop, renounced things like slavery!
But if we could go back in time to 1200 BCE (which is a very rough estimate of when Moses received the Law from God, including the Book of Exodus), and talked to SLAVES THEMSELVES and asked, "Don't you think it would be a good idea to get rid of all slavery?" Their answer would likely have been: "Well, sure but then, who would do all the work?"
So what did people like Moses come up with as he was, ever so slowly, tuning in to the Spirit of God?
Well, he laid down some LIMITATIONS to make it not quite as horrible to be a slave!
For example, he gave a law that said nobody was allowed to work one day a week--the Sabbath, and the reason he gave to explain why it was necessary--was because God rested on the 7th day after He made the world and everyone in it.
Now, maybe he could have said, "Thou shalt not make your slaves and beasts of burden work more than 6 days in a row, because that's exploitation and they deserve better treatment!" But slave owners would have probably balked and said, "What? They're my property, and I'll do with them whatever I please!" But by making EVERYONE have to take a day off, on the basis of some ethereal logic like God needed to rest as well, apparently, seemed more palatable!
In any case, the slaves and work animals could, at least, finally catch a break!
The same holds true for Exodus 21:20-21. Prior to this restriction, slaves could be beaten to death if a master so desired, but by creating a law decreeing a master could be fined for beating a slave to death, deterred them from beating them TOO MUCH!
Similarly, Exodus 21:26-27 decrees a slave was to be freed if, during a beating, s/he lost an eye or a tooth, again, with the idea that it was still OK to beat them...just don't aim for the head!
Now, did these laws that put some modest restraints on how slaves were to be treated God's way of saying slavery, itself, was OK? Of course not! (Though the Antebellum slave-holders of the southern US states certainly used these and other bible passages to justify their wicked behavior).
But as with other laws Moses gave, Jesus' viewpoint was that Mosaic Law was a stop-gap measure, "given for the hardness of men's hearts" (Matthew 19:8). These measures, given the horrific conditions and expectations of the time and place in history they were issued, represented some progress, if only measured in baby steps in the right direction, but not the end-all-and-be-all of what God was really after!
To put it another way, the overall theme of the Bible is one story or law or prophesy after the other, in which, God is not waiting for humanity to rise up to where He is, before connecting with us, but a constant effort on his part to reach down to where we are, no matter how disgustingly low humans had sunk in the way we treat one another...to meet us where we are, not where we should be, and then, lift us up from there at the quickest (or least slow) pace as possible!
Rick Lannoye, author of www.amazon.com/Real-Life-Jesus-Nazareth-Really-Stood-ebook/dp/B09V4BJ62D
No we must not obey old testament rules , we must create and pray our man made idols ,as our God , and we must kill and do adultery at any time, as long as we want it, do it bro
so what about adultery since he saved that woman who got caught cheating??
The problem is that the O.T. said to obey INSTRUCTION (not LAW). It is all about WHERE your heart is. Don't eat unclean food if you have any doubt. Pork is not ICE CREAM people!!!!
Noah was a Gentile long before the Law given at Sinai, and he knew the differences between clean and unclean animals back then before there were any Jews, and many Christian trachets refer to what Noah kept before God as the "Noachide laws," which if that indeed applies to only Gentiles, then his treatment and acknowledgement of clean and unclean animals should apply to Gentiles today. The unclean animals were boarded (by God) in TWOS simply for reproduction as scavenging animals needed to ecologically clean the planet of rotting detritus and carcasses.
The clean animals were boarded in SEVEN PAIRS i.e. 14 animals of each species, as these were needed in larger numbers as they were the animals permitted by God for mankind to eat, and Noah found GRACE in the eyes of the LORD as a non-Christian, but He was obedient to God.
Christ didn't eat pork though, he never said we could break those laws willynilly
Sanctify them tru THY truth thy words is truth john 17 v17 ,
Yes. The only part of the law that is no longer in effect is the temple sacrifice and offerings. Instead we now give the fruit of lips
WRONG! Paul condoned sacrifices (Ac.21).
THOUSANDS of Christians were zealous for Torah (thus including sacrifices, Ac. 21:20).
Some Christians were even animal-sacrificing priests! (Ac.6:7)
Jesus requires sacrifices for people of all nations (Mt. 11:17 citing Is.56:7).
Jesus comes to RESTORE sacrifices (Mal.3:4).
We will again obey 100% of ALL Torah (including Levitical/sacrificial Torah, Dt. 30:1-8).
NO Torah is abolished.
Rather, we simply can not presently obey all Torah while in diaspora.
But that will change!
We WILL again obey ALL Torah (Dt.30:1-8).