God chooses everyone - and they have to choose Him back. Not too complicated, really. Bible says it's His wish that NONE should perish and all should come to repentance. Choosing Him back means being born again first, receiving the Holy Spirit as the second impartation of God's spirit - most of the church doesn't understand this including famous pastors - and third we must be obedient. He doesn't change - the wages of sin is death. Usually when I start hearing the sovereignty of God junk I am ready for the next bunch of lies. He IS sovereign and as such He decided to put His word above His name and keep covenants with man. He says "You do this and I'll do this" and He also says "You don't do this and I won't do this" and He also says "Do wrong and be destroyed." The end.
MrBazinthenow I don’t believe what you said pertains to anything I’ve said. Yes, Eternal Life is from GOD The Father through the sacrificial death of His Begotten Son. Love GOD with all your heart, mind, body and soul and continue to walk humbly with our Father. Love mercy and do justly.
I'm definitely more than grateful that He chose to save me from years of drugs, alcohol and so many other addictions as well as so many potential serious accidents!! Praise God 4 all eternity
Please change your profile picture, Abstain from all apearance of evil, please Honestly Confess Jesus As Lord with your mouth And Believe He Died And That God Rose Him From The Dead,turn away from swearing, using God's Name in vain, making and having images that are supposed to be Them, using electronics too much, decieving, Praying to statues,Mary,Saints,Angels...,lying, over eating and over drinking, magic, negative music, selfish ambitions, laziness, pride,lust,hate,gossip,cigars,drugs,video games,movies,anime,idolatry(obssesions,un healthy connections to something,someone,addictions..) and that kind of stuff, Be Baptised, Dedicate yourself To God Fully,Obey Him And Trust In Him And Jesus
@@Alexander-ss3su I pray you will be free from your bondage, addiction and slavery of substance abuse (worship) Turn in repentance to Jesus whom he sets free is indeed. Today is the day of salvation, you are not promised tomorrow.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@missk6295 Ephesians 1:4, ESV: "even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love"
This made me think of Apostle Peter, he kept leaving Jesus, left to go back fishing, then denied knowing Jesus, yet Jesus kept after him until he got Peter for good finally. God must see something in our hearts that even we don’t see. Just my thoughts on this..... 💞
These two lessons by John Doerr on what it means to truly be born again are very liberating! The Trueth of the real Jesus Christ’s gospel of grace toward the sinner has been hidden by Rome’s Jesuits and scholars, who work tirelessly to cast doubt on the Word of God. The devil has deceived the whole world. (Rev 12:9) ua-cam.com/video/E5TDOs_tLpQ/v-deo.html - born again basics pt1 ua-cam.com/video/lwj78N080cw/v-deo.html - born again basics pt2 Romans 8:2 “For the law of the spirit of life, in Christ Iesus, hath made me free from the law of sinne and death.” The fundamental problem is the corruption of Gods word. In this link you can find a lesson on the unbroken testimony of Jesus Christ in the English language which is found in the authorized version of 1611. ua-cam.com/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/v-deo.html 2 Corinthians 2:17 “For wee are not as many which corrupt the word of God: but as of sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of God speake we in Christ.”
I pray for salvation day and night for my husband for more than44 years I am at times discouraged anguished that my unbelieving hubby iam despaired that God has shut His ears to my cries, forgotten my prayers for help I don't hide my faith, I go to church brought up my2 sons in the faith thank God So please pray with me that me and my house shall serve the Lord
By God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ everlasting bloodshed sacrifice alone. present him with this (The Gospel) and ask him if he wishes to truly accept this truth. He will become sealed with the Holy Spirit for eternity regardless of the outward changes in his life. Salvation is a free gift but ongoing discipleship/sanctification through the Holy Spirit will carry a cost in this world (and possibly a reward in Heaven).
@@jaysonb.6669in 44yrs am sure she’s done everything she knows to do. She is enough for her family, her salvation covers her husband and herself. All she can do is what the Bible says and that’s to teach her children and her children’s children about repentance and the kingdom and all it in tells. Her husband is her leader, the Bible says for women not to teach men. I commend her for keeping her marriage as holy as she can all these years. God bless her! In God’s time he chose he wants when he wants.
The path is narrow for a reason. Not everyone needs to be up there. Look around you. The world is full of snakes. God probably didn't die for most of the them. Their hearts have waxed so cold that it'll take the gates of he!! just to thaw them out for Satan to torment. Seriously. God's in the separation business. Most won't make it.
@@talesfromburma2320 I think so. But He probably doesn't want any pretenders just so they avoid going to hel)l. But you'll have to consult His Word to be sure.
Terry Henderson If you have not placed your personal faith in Christ then you are not saved. The Bible never teaches we are saved by the faith of another. We are saved by grace through faith. Faith is not the gift, eternal life is the gift. Throughout the Scriptures, both old and new testaments, individuals are exhorted to repent and believe. Josh 24:15 CHOOSE FOR YOURSELVES TODAY whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” V 22 Joshua said to the people, “You are witnesses against yourselves that you have CHOSEN FOR YOURSELVES THE LORD, to serve Him. Heb 3:7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS Heb 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for HE WHO COMES TO GOD MUST BELIEVE THAT HE IS and that He is a rewarder of THOSE WHO SEEK HIM. We are living in the last days where they will no longer endure sound doctrine. If you have not placed your personal faith in Christ then you are not saved.
@Karen Porter You sound like an angry little Calvinist. In case you failed to comprehend what I was saying, Non-Calvinists refute the Calvinistic teaching that the faith to believe is a gift from God; eternal life is the gift. To receive this free gift the sinner must place his personal faith in Christ. Sticks and stones ..........
@@gregjay9933 i don't think anyone is disagreeing with you when you say that a person must choose to put there full faith and trust in Jesus ALONE. What we ( calvinist) are saying is it is by grace that GOD has given us the desire to do that.
@@imsaltylit3101 Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. All people through time were saved by grace through faith, but they all believed something different. For us today it's that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again according to the scriptures 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Everyone is saved by faith and had to put their faith in what God instructed them to do. Abraham believed God. Noah built an ark. The children of Israel had to keep the law. Israel had to believe that Jesus Christ was their Messiah. We believe that Jesus Christ paid for our sins on a cross that He died in our place and shed His blood for the forgiveness of our sins and rose again for our justification.
@@bycracky22 Gods grace has always been the means by which man can be reconciled to Himself. At different times He gave different instructions on what men are to believe to be right with Him. In these last days God is not willing that any should perish but to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth, which is by Grace alone through faith alone and not of any works.
Saved by grace in OT too......Genesis 6:8 "Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." In the OT they were looking by faith forward to the Cross.....you and I look with faith back to the Cross....All saved by grace through faith in Christ.....Only one savior....
@@timclark2925 Noah believed God and built an ark while he was preaching the coming judgment that was to come. If he didn't do that (works) he wouldn't have been saved. He didn't know that Jesus Christ would die on a cross be buried and be resurrected, nor did anyone else until Paul revealed that today we are saved by grace through faith and not by any works of the law.
To those people who commented, "He didn't choose me," I really felt that. But you know, just want to tell you that God loves you very much. He even sacrificed His only begotten Son to die for you- for us! So don't even think about that again. God wants all of us to be with Him in Heaven in eternity. Yes, God knows His "chosen one" but that doesn't mean that you're not one of them. Believe me, you can be one of them. Just have faith in Him and obey Him, that's just He wants you to do. Have faith in Him. Trust Him with all your heart. And no, God doesn't play favoritism. He listens to those who need Him. So, if you need Him, cry out to Him, He will listen to you. Yes, following God is not easy but it will be worth it until the end. Just always remember, God loves you and He's waiting for you to run back to Him. Just trust Him. God bless, Child of God.
@@pgm960 God will forgive your sins, all you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ that He came to earth to die for our sins and admit your sins honestly to God and repent that is turn away from your sins. God bless you brother. God loves you so much all we have to do is accept that love.
God really loves me, he gave my only daughter terminal cancer at 3. But let Mr Fritzl live for decades to rape his own daughter. Praise be to God fukwits.
@Jens Johansson God chooses people with reason. refer 2thessalonians2:10&12 "bec they REFUSED to love the truth and SO BE SAVED" and "but HAD PLEASURE in unrighteousness". from this verse we can say that if a person goes to hell its bec they choose too and not as God wanted to.
I think it’s about your heart. Many are called, few are chosen. He knows the people who will choose Him through thick and thin since we ultimately have free will, but when you are chosen, God knows your heart and faithfulness. He knew Peter would deny Him three times before he even did. Peter even said he wouldn’t deny Jesus, but Jesus still knew before it happened. This is my personal belief. God knows who will choose Him and that’s why I believe He also chose us. ❤❤❤ As disappointed and heartbroken as I have been in my life, I still know the truth. I know who my savior is no matter what.
This makes more sense to me in light of Scripture, and in light of who God is. Thank you for sharing your insight. I have been struggling with this topic, and it His been getting in the way of my relationship with God.
this isnt true. The Bible says none desire God, none want to follow Him and etc. God chooses who to save off of His desires. There's nothing about us. Its all about Him.
@@arryonastrong5343 God's desire is not ambivalent. While He is certainly the one who initiates the relationship, there is a point where His will meets our will. If it were not true, then we would be robots, involuntary programmed and void of moral responsibility. And if that is the case, He would choose everybody for salvation. For "God is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL would come to repentance.". Otherwise, it would be unjust of Him to consign billions of souls to eternal conscious torment for their parents' waywardness satanic programming. The point where God's will "ends" and our will "begins" is impossible for us to define precisely. Because we are created in His image, our will is involved. If our will was not involved in establishing a relationship with Him, then we are just robots, programmed to believe what He puts into our CPU. We are no better than an Artificial Intelligence that is designed to gather data and and act according to "if, then" binary logic. There is much more to be said in the subject. I am familiar with John Calvin's T.U.L.I.P. and disagree with the fundamental ideas, as they are directly contrary to God's Name and Nature.
@@harriedsloth4399 They are contradicting Scripture…..despite what guys such as this pastor and his guest says Calvinism and such like it are condemning millions to hell if they follow the Calvinistic Reformation doctrine and beliefs
Many are called = conviction Few are chosen = those who accept the calling. No-one is predestined to hell. Conviction will come upon all men but few will accept the calling.
I kindly disagree. Read Romans 6 or 2 Corinthians 4:6. You were spiritually dead. Any quickening or spiritual awakening you get comes by the mercy and grace of God. Your flesh could never fully desire to want a relationship with our Creator and the law proved that.
@Amon Ra I copied your channel post from 2 days ago: "When the true God told me the truth, I lost my mind I even became unable to relate to this dark reality controlled by demonic forces and the religious institutes of Satanic agendas and satanic governments. I even became unable to relate to my family and even my wife and children and twenty year plus "friends", divorce followed and loss of everything except the clothes on my back and a few items at best. I found refuge in my fathers home for awhile, and after his death and my mothers death I was homeless for awhile living out of my Van, when I spoke the truth concerning the demonic monsters online that run this world they attacked and were not kind hearten in their natures online." I hope you seek help. You've had a rough road.
@ Sir, why r you so bothered if, we Christians are discussing here some Grace stuff. Hater of God, taking pain to search Christian videos and going to their forum and hunting Christians, really?
@ So, millions of people experiencing super - natural stuff around their lives, we should forget that and listen to your feelings as if it is cosmic in nature.
If you haven’t experienced God’s Regenerating of the heart you can’t understand it. When it does happen you know it was by His work on you alone. Only those that have experienced this will know what you mean when you try and explain it. 🙏😇
I was saved in 05. Stepped away from from the Bible and praying, 18 years later God touched my heart through the Holy Spirit. Now I feel bad when I sin. I want to be free of sin one day. Please Lord help me to hate all sins.
You weren't 'saved' in 05. New creations do not 'fall away.' Whoever told you you were saved in 05 was some kind of 'choose Jesus' fraud who just lied to you. I pray you have finally received the gift of saving faith.
This is the bottom line whether we are received into the Kingdom of God at the JSOC where all believers will face judgement. This is what scripture is all about not being justified/born again/called but being sanctified/chosen/soul saved/inheritance/hope. So work out your salvation (soul) with fear to be sure of your entrance per 2 Pt 1.9-11. My hope is that you see this and act.
@@johnhoffman8203 thank you. The Judgement seat of Christ is where true believers give account of lives before Christ, and this is where we receive rewards or not. It is not a salvation judgement seat. That is the White Throne Judgement.
@@friendyadvice2238 Your are correct in that only believers stand before Christ at the JSOC but the reward (glorified body/entrance into the KOG) is based on the salvation of the soul (vice spirit) per 1 Pt 1.9, Heb 10.39, James 1.21. This salvation is our sanctification that Paul preached as his gospel/gospel of the glory of Christ to the gentiles per Acts 20.32/26.18. The inheritance is reign and rule with Christ in the millennium or be cast out to outer darkness/2nd death for 1K years. Our glorified body is at stake here or 1K years later IAW 1 Cor 15.51&52.
Amen many are called but few are chosen, Father God searches ours Hearts first and if we got his Love in ours Hearts he will Protect that because he know it will grow and grow, a Righteous Man will fall 7 times but he will get back up and keep moving closer and closer to Father God, nothing but the Blood Of Jesus can set me Free Father God we Thank you for Grace and your Mercy in the Mighty Name Of Jesus Amen Amen And Amen.
@@dude9318 because even our faith is a gift of God. He does it ALL. None search after him but the Holy Spirit. EVERYTHING God has done for his children. ALL glory is his, nothing of ourselves. It is a gift.
Notice it says,MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN.It doesn't say,ALL ARE CALLED.JESUS died for many of all men,meaning not only many jews,but many OUT of,every tribe,tongue,nation and people.( gentiles) but not all jews and Gentiles.
I've never understood why this is such a confusing or troubling thing for so many people. The Bible shows us who and what we are. Reading that book is like looking into a mirror. (And it even uses that analogy in places.) It shows us we are sinners, through and through, to the core of our being. And we know that, deep inside. If we're honest - even just with ourselves - we KNOW we are sinners. So we need to start there. We must start with the fact that we are all sinners who ONLY deserve eternal punishment. It's a miracle He chooses to grant mercy to any of us!
Personally, it makes me uncomfortable because it implies that God created certain people for destruction(i.e. some people never had the "ability" to turn to Christ. I am not disagree with the doctrine, but it is hard to wrap my head around it.
@@konijnkidm6869 is it possible that you may be worshipping or believing in an idol of your own imagination and not biblical GOD of SCRIPTURE? (Proverbs 16:4 MSTC) The LORD doth all things for HIS own sake; yea, and when he keepeth the ungodly for the day of wrath. (Proverbs 16:4 GNB) Everything the LORD has made has its destiny; and the destiny of the wicked is destruction. (Proverbs 16:4 NAS77) The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil. (Job 25:5-6 HCSB) If even the moon does not shine and the stars are not pure in HIS sight, (6) how much less man, who is a maggot, and the son of man, who is a worm! (Job 25:6 GW) How much less pure is a mortal-who is only a maggot- a descendant of Adam-who is only a worm!" (Job 25:6 JPS) How much less man, that is a worm! and the son of man, that is a maggot! (Job 25:6 ABP+) But alas, man is rottenness, and the son of man a worm. (Job 25:6 LEB) How much less for a human being who is a maggot, and a human who is a worm?" (Job 25:6 ISV) How much less is man, who is only a maggot, or a man's children, who are only worms!" (Isaiah 40:17 BBE) All the nations are as nothing before HIM; even less than nothing, a thing of no value. (Isaiah 40:17 CEV) GOD thinks of the nations as far less than nothing. (Isaiah 40:17 HCSB) All the nations are as nothing before HIM; they are considered by HIM as nothingness and emptiness. (Isaiah 40:17 NLT) The nations of the world are worth nothing to HIM. In HIS eyes they count for less than nothing-mere emptiness and froth. (Daniel 4:35 BSB) All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and HE does as HE pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain HIS hand or say to HIM, ‘What have YOU done?’” (Daniel 4:35 CEV) To HIM the nations are far less than nothing; GOD controls the stars in the sky and everyone on this earth. When GOD does something, we cannot change it or even ask why." (Daniel 4:35 HCSB) All the inhabitants of the earth are counted as nothing, and HE does what HE wants with the army of heaven and the inhabitants of the earth. There is no one who can hold back HIS hand or say to HIM, "What have YOU done?" (Daniel 4:35 UST) HE regards all the people in the world as insignificant. HE has the power to do whatever HE wants to do. HE does whatever HE wants with the angel armies in heaven and with us who live on the earth. So no one can correct HIM; no one can challenge HIM; no one can say to HIM, "Why are YOU doing these things?"
@@thebestdothereis, This problem of 'Election and Predestination of the Calvinists' can NEVER be Resolved because John Calvin missed one VERY IMPORTANT Ingredient of this Doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'...... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the scriptures... However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine.... He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'.... So, Calvinism is '''''TRUTH MIXED WITH LIES''''' and it is more dangerous than lies alone.... I have asked several Calvinists this question, which NONE of them were able to answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the answer.... My Question : How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at random.... The Answer is: OF COURSE GOD CHOSE HIS OWN CHILDREN.... It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world, 'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'.... In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are these two groups of people, and where did they come from... The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved... The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned..... The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but by HEREDITY.... I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.... The Sheep inherited the character of God, The goats inherited the character of the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin but the sinful nature.... That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect.... (hope this clarifies you) The elects were fallen and they need to be saved.... There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of John Calvin... All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost.... John 17:12(KJV) ''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition'''; that the scripture might be fulfilled.'' (the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of perdition, a goat) Example of Goats : Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses. Example of Sheep : Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas.... NOTE : The difference between the Sheep and the goats.... The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire to please God, Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves... (all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and desire to please God, while others don't love God and don't desire to please God) Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching..... The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin.... That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the gospel of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to preach.... Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed God for his sin of killing Abel.... How about John 3:16 ? John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.'' ''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the Elect will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the character of God.... The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent... Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done.... ''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the Sheep will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
@@konijnkidm6869, This problem of 'Election and Predestination of the Calvinists' can NEVER be Resolved because John Calvin missed one VERY IMPORTANT Ingredient of this Doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'...... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the scriptures... However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine.... He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'.... So, Calvinism is '''''TRUTH MIXED WITH LIES''''' and it is more dangerous than lies alone.... I have asked several Calvinists this question, which NONE of them were able to answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the answer.... My Question : How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at random.... The Answer is: OF COURSE GOD CHOSE HIS OWN CHILDREN.... It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world, 'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'.... In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are these two groups of people, and where did they come from... The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved... The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned..... The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but by HEREDITY.... I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.... The Sheep inherited the character of God, The goats inherited the character of the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin but the sinful nature.... That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect.... (hope this clarifies you) The elects were fallen and they need to be saved.... There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of John Calvin... All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost.... John 17:12(KJV) ''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition'''; that the scripture might be fulfilled.'' (the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of perdition, a goat) Example of Goats : Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses. Example of Sheep : Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas.... NOTE : The difference between the Sheep and the goats.... The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire to please God, Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves... (all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and desire to please God, while others don't love God and don't desire to please God) Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching..... The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin.... That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the gospel of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to preach.... Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed God for his sin of killing Abel.... How about John 3:16 ? John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.'' ''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the Elect will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the character of God.... The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent... Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done.... ''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the Sheep will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
@@konijnkidm6869 There are a lot of things about God that I don't think we'll ever fully understand in this life. What is 100% clear, though, is that I'm a sinner. And so is everyone else. We ALL deserve judgement!
God is sovereign. He owes us nothing. We are created FOR Him and BY Him. Faith is a gift of mercy that some of us receive and His power will be on display in not only us believers but also in the objects of wrath. God is perfectly just, this is HIS story, not ours. A hard truth for new Christians for sure but once you come to know the love and goodness of our Lord it becomes much easier to understand His sovereignty and our place as small, highly valued, but small parts of His large family of believers. May I see you all in heaven one day!
Thank you for this teaching. I am so amazed at no matter how many I have read the Bible and how much I learned there is more. Sometimes I believe The Lord withholds our understanding of His words to individuals until they can perceive its true meaning fully into their hearts.
Thank you JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!! I heard this message loud and clear!!! Brought a lot of tears of joy to my eyes!! I barley came across romans 9 today for the first time and I read it. As I was reading it, I asked God; Lord please help me fully understand this chapter. So I read it and I thought to myself, there has to be more to this chapter that I’m not understanding cause something deep inside told me, God loves us all. We are all his children and I can’t fully understand why would my God turn someone away who is seeking him... So 2 hours later I come across this video and now it all made perfect sense! Brought me to many tears cause I instantly thought about my whole family and everyone who I’m trying to talk to about God in these last hours! 🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️
Romans 9 refers to Jacob(Israel) Esau(Edom) Not individuals. Calvinism is based on unbiblical books murderer john calvin wrote not inspired by the holy spirit in the 1600. T.U.L.I.P is demonic and unbiblical cult who keeps this a secret.
I remember reading Romans 9 the first time, then reading it again, and again, and again. I finally moved on because I concluded I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. It's truly terrifying to think that had I not been chosen there is nothing I could do to spend eternity with the Lord.
The full counsel of scripture will put it in perspective. Though we can’t fully grasp how God makes His choices, His Word gives us many indications as to how we can know we’re chosen. Namely if we seek God, we’ve been given a new heart. The natural unredeemed man rebels against God and does not love His commandments.
Due to the Fall of man in the garden. Sin/Death entered by way of Adam our patriarch. Because of this sin man inherently is born into the world in bondage, spiritually dead. Meaning although our will is free in desire & action, it is perpetually led towards rebellion against God, favoring the sins of the world. Because of this bondage we are “lost” unable to save ourselves without the Grace of God. In Gods sovereignty He freely bestows His grace upon those He deems fit before the foundation of the world.(Eph 1:4) This is important because it is not based on mans desire/will, or exertion while on earth(Rom9:16) but rather on Gods Will & Mercy. It is mercy as by the Law all men are deserving of judgement. So we can rest assured that everyone who is “chosen/elected” are so according to Gods purpose that is always pure & righteous due to every further action of God being Just as it was not of obligation to save anyone to begin with.
I feel the same exact way. If I wasn't drawn in, I would be living like everyone else , and wake up in hell. Absolutely horrifying. The fear of the Lord is on me hard.
Better go on your knees and praise God everyday for the rest of your life. Trust me..some are not so fortunate. Imagine suffering on earth, dying and sent straight to hell.
I had a degree in religious studies. I studied all religions and got into new age. I got into an indescribable depression 2020 the very start of COVID due to some unforeseeable circumstances and made a will and got life insurance. For 1.5 years i didn't know which day was last but was certain that was my fate. I even had a friend who had a terrifying dream that I took my life. (I'll explain to her soon : ) )one night i got on my knees and told God I would serve him for the rest of my life if he help me through. That moment was the very first time I had absolutely no doubt my prayer was answered and my depression left immediately and he brought me to Jesus Christ. I never would've thought that Jesus Christ was living God until I gave my life to God. I feel like the luckiest person to be chosen by him but also feel terrible by those who will never know him. I met good people and had a close friend leave the world the way I had planned. Glory be to God!
“I know now why Can’t reach God because I am one the damned the non elect”. Breaks my heart I just read that in one of responses. I want to tell you with all my heart and in my spirit God Loves you. He loves you so much that He gave His only begotten Son to die so that WHOSEVER believes on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. He died for you. He loves you. God said He wishes no one to perish. This predestination from before time to heaven or hell. It is a stumbling block. It hurts people and it’s not God pleasing. Jesus died for “the Whole WORLD” as He said. Believe and experience the absolute beauty of His love. OH my Soul can not contain the LOVE of the Lord. BELIEVE
My take: "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God" We are saved by faith, and the grace of God. Begin reading the Bible and choose to believe it. "If you seek me you will find me if you search for me with all your heart." Just begin the journey towards Him and like the prodigal's father at some point he will run to embrace you. Faith comes by reading His word, saturating yourself in its truths. It is alive as Christ is alive. He says He will turn no one away who comes to him.
How many scriptures does Satan twist and send people of supposed biblical understanding out to repeat?! TULIP (today's Calvinist) all hinges on the error of their supposed understanding of God's Total Sovereignty. They fail to understand that "God's desiring that none should perish. . . . ." (what do they do with this?) yet the majority will go to hell, is not at odds with God's total sovereignty. Only one way to the Father - Jesus. The Father's requirement is "we believe in He whom He has sent". God's total sovereignty does desire that "none should perish" but if they do not "believe", it is His total sovereign will that they spend eternity in the lake of fire. Our Free Will is exactly what it is. Free to believe, trust, follow, obey or reject His Son, the Christ. Our choice. God's sovereign will is not challenged or affected by our choice.
Diane Anderson Remember, the natural man doesn’t receive the things of the spirit , they are foolishness to him neither can they understand it because they are spiritually discerned-1Cor 2:14..You’re not born of your own will only by God’s will John 1:13..if God doesn’t draw you to Christ you’ll never understand or believe the gospel no matter how much you read it..the prodigal son was about the sheep that was lost but found not about people of the world who were never part of His flock..And remember also that none is good , none is righteous and none seeks after God-Rom 3.. so those who will seek after God with all their heart and might are those whom He has chosen..Don’t twist the words to win people to Christ , that’s why there are many false converts in the world today..tell them the truth of the gospel and if the believe , glory to God and if they don’t let them be, if they are part of the flock of Christ they will eventually believe when God says it’s time for them to believe..No one can pluck anyone whom God has give Christ out of His hand-John 10:28-29 ❤️
I had a really hard time understanding it too. Took me a long while but I kept asking God to help me understand it and He did. It's good to read and listen to stuff related to this (I did it a lot and still doing it) but most importantly, we should always always come to God and seek the truth from His word because He's the ultimate source of all the answers. 😊
Basically its for those of what God chooses, so God chooses some to be and some to not to be, not in a threatening way to hurt a human but to hide His glory from those that dont deserve it unless they come but in this of Pharoh is harden of his heart cuz of God using Moses to harden the Pharohs heart. God chooses to those that he knows that are His and loves them cuz they are meant to be with Him cuz God loves them. And yes some others live a good life and godly life and have everything vut God loves us all vut God is willing to show and use a person that is weak and less and to use this person for power and to show God's glory through a person like this just like Moses, just like St.Paul, etc., its just how it is, but to be able to avoid this of not getting and seeing God's blessing and glory...just give in, surrender all, dont be like Pharoh even though God made Pharoh to harden of the heart, but back then is back then and now its new testament so choose now of surrender to God cuz the scriptures has been fulfilled. This is the reason why.
“This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”” John 6:39-40
@@c.a.g.3130 The Bible says "all shall know Him from the least to the greatest"....which would mean "all" are ordained". unless you don't believe that the scripture I sited is true? It's a repeated verse in both the Old and New Testaments.
@@c.a.g.3130 Acts 13:48 “And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life; believed.” So you're saying that their belief was pre ordained? But when the Bible says that; "all shall know Him from the least to the greatest".it only .means "all of a few which are ordained?? No "all shall know Him means all will eventually believe. No; The.truth is: all are forgiven... but just a relative few find out about forgiveness through Christ during this lifetime. "Forgiveness" and "saved" are two different things...."saved' is finding out about Christ during our earthly life. Forgiven is what happened to all because of what Christ did for us ALL. It doesn't change anything whether YOU believe it or not. Believing in an exclusive Gospel is not believing in "good news" but is mostly believing in bad news.
@@c.a.g.3130 Repentance is a "death to self". Therefore when we do actually physically die it is also "repentance". All will be raised in a new life. Why would any suffer eternally in the spirit? Our body is the " wicked"......and because of that; our bodies die and rot to nothing. Our spirit goes to God; living forever.
@@James_no_hellGod forbid that we should partake with sinners who place no faith in Jesus on the earth. For this is where he died, so we must also die to self here.
@@xavierthomas5835 (????) .Jesus partook with sinners on earth. Jesus died for sinners on earth; all sinners; for all time. WE are sinners on earth. Because we all are sinners; this body (this shiell) will corrode away to nothing in the grave; all flesh will; (everybody!). We are no better than anyone else. The only better that we have is that we know the Lord and we look beyond the grave to eternal life with Jesus. The many who do not know Jesus only perceive the grave. Although there will be more for them also because Jesus died for the entire world.
Jn 6:33 "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world." Was the True bread which came down from heaven given only for a few people or for the whole world?
John 3: 25 Therefore there arose a discussion on the part of John’s disciples with a Jew about purification. 26 And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified, behold, He is baptizing and all are coming to Him.” 27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. 28 You yourselves [g]are my witnesses that I said, ‘I am not the [h]Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent ahead of Him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Thank God that He sent Jesus from above then who is the true light that lighteth all men who come into the world. Please rethink where you're headed with this.
The Spirit of God have to testify in that man and if not that man is dead spiritually dead the sanctification works must be done in a person by the spirit of the living God Jesus came that we may have eternal life peace be with you🍷🍞
We need faith in Gods incorruptible word to hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church. These two lessons by John Doerr on what it means to truly be born again are very liberating! The Trueth of the real Jesus Christ’s gospel of grace toward the sinner has been hidden by Rome’s Jesuits and scholars, who work tirelessly to cast doubt on the Word of God. The devil has deceived the whole world. (Rev 12:9) ua-cam.com/video/E5TDOs_tLpQ/v-deo.html - born again basics pt1 ua-cam.com/video/lwj78N080cw/v-deo.html - born again basics pt2 Romans 8:2 “For the law of the spirit of life, in Christ Iesus, hath made me free from the law of sinne and death.” The fundamental problem is the corruption of Gods word. In this link you can find a lesson on the unbroken testimony of Jesus Christ in the English language which is found in the authorized version of 1611. ua-cam.com/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/v-deo.html 2 Corinthians 2:17 “For wee are not as many which corrupt the word of God: but as of sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of God speake we in Christ.”
@@timothyseals3791 that's not biblical. We are not saved because we chose Him. He chooses us. God has chosen CERTAIN people to be saved: Ephesians 1:4, 5, 9, 11 "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will.
@@Wavesfromthenorth If that’s the case then how do you know for certain that you’re one of the so-called “chosen”? According to Calvinism and the satanic doctrine of T.U.L.I.P you can’t know until you die….so how can you be sure of your final destination? Very simply you can’t know according to Calvinism and the twisted satanic unbiblical doctrine of T.U.L.I.P.
God has mercy on all, He hardens the hearts of those who CONTINUALLY choose to have no faith in Jesus Christ, WHOSOEVER calls on the name of tHe Lord shall be saved People read read read the bible for yourselves, test all the spirits
Can you help me understand why in one part Jesus says all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, and in another part he says not everyone who says Lord, Lord, shall see the kingdom of God. So, which is true?
@@elainewat2607 so many people will says Lord Lord but they know that they never repent and still love their sins and all they do only to please themselves. We can see them clearly like these false teachers in some mega churches for great example. And their conggregation love prosperity gospel so much and they idolize their pastors and when someone wants to show them about the truth in the Bible they refuse it. We can see it clearly.
John Piper is the most amazing preacher/teacher of all time! He gets deep into the each passage and explains it in a practical manner that we can understand! Pastor Piper is so much more knowledgeable than the average pastor, he's really an extraordinary man and preacher and I'm so thankful for all his video's. THANK YOU Pastor Piper!! Thank you God for giving John Piper the knowledge to teach us all so very much.
@@faithrose4440 isn't it wonderful to be able to learn so much from pastor John, he has a biblical and sensible answer to every question. I just love him!!
This anyone is an elect who is lost in the world but to be taken home, heavenly home.he need to open his heart through the conviction of the Holy Spirit(2Thess.2:13-17)
@@davidochieng2975 no it is any man or woman ,he knocks but it has to be by freewill a choice jesus died for that freewill God created us with freewill out of love knowing by giving his creation freewill we would rejects him then planned to pay the price for that freewill through his own sweet son. He loves the world but the wonderful gift of freewill can destroy his loved creation sit and think about it for awhile such love such love he made you so you could reject him and provided a way back through his own sons death .Jesus did it out of love for his father and us and the father did it out of love for his creation and the Holy sprite lives in those who have accepted jesus even though we fail and fail all day long
@@imaidiot1997 God has been too good to us. We are so undeserving of his Grace. It makes no sense at all why he continues to love us. I just can't wrap my mind around that kind of love and yet I am so gratefully appreciative of his mercy. I long for the day that I meet Jesus and fall at his feet with praise and thanks. My sins forgiven. The evils of the world shaken off of me. Nothing but the sweet paradise of Heaven. Finally free from the blasphemous thoughts! I will collapse at the throne in complete awe of my King.
It made me cry when I listened to this. I had no idea when I clicked to listen. And tomorrow I will lead a Bible study of Roman 8 and 9. The Holy Spirit must have arranged to show me this clip. Thank you Jesus! Thank you God! Pastor John thank you for your amazing explanation.
Please know that Jesus died for you because God loves you and wants YOU to live in heaven with Him. Find out the truth about Romans 9 at this link. You will be so glad you did. Choose Jesus, Choose life! In Christian service, Madison. www.madisonwilloughby.com/individual-predestination-rom-9.html
Hi my friend.Because this is will of GOD,because it is the work of GOD, and HE has mercy on whom He wills, and on those who are pleasing to Him, people must be silent before GOD.I love you all.GOD bless you all with wisdom,but dont forget,the begining of wisdom is fear to LORD.
Hey, brother. Did you feel like his answer gave you a clearer understanding of the passage? I'd be happy to share any information on reformed theology as well. John Piper is a great teacher on the matter. Professor Ryan Reeves has a UA-cam channel that goes into the history of these types of ideas as well. Here if you need any help, brother. God bless.
I have often wondered why I deserve such compassion this helps me some. I think just reading more Bible and prayer helps too. God gives revelation to those that seek understanding with a pure heart.
God gave me Romans 9 just after my gay brother died in his sins without Christ. Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated. My brother being the older, me being the younger. God wrote this chapter on my heart as I wrestled with my grief for over a year and a half.
You’ll see your brother again, he’s not lost. He just wasn’t called in this the Church age. Every man in his own order(1 Corinthians 15:22-23). He’s just asleep for now.
@@mikebrown9850nope, no second chances. This life is it, and if you haven't placed your trust in Christ as savior when death seizes upon you, you will be found guilty by God. That earns a one way ticket to hell. "And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment," - Hebrews 9:27
@@usmcvet0313 That’s correct, everyone will be judged for what they did in this life. And all have earned death. What you’re confused on is the time order. It is appointed men to die once. Everyone dies once, except the very few that will be changed at Christ’s return. Only God’s Church is being judged now. The overwhelming mass of civilization that has ever lived from Adam until Christ return will be judged( not condemned) in the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). That’s when the overwhelming majority of them will hear of Jesus Christ for the 1st time and be given their chance to accept Him as their personal Savior. They will then be given Gods Holy Spirit which will then enable them to have a personal relationship with Him . If God hasn’t specifically called a person to come out of this world, hasn’t repented of their sins and received the gift of God’s Holy Spirit, and placed into the very Body of Christ, this person is not being judged eternally. They will simply die in this life and be resurrected to physical life in the 2nd resurrection. Stop believing men, read your Bible and believe the scriptures.
@@mikebrown9850 I dont think you understood what the throne room Judgment is. That isnt an opportunity to accept or reject Christ. That is the end. Those who didn't put their faith in Christ will be judged by their works. But i also believe that every person has had an opportunity to accept or reject Christ before death. Through preaching, hearing the gospel somewhere, dream etc
@@vladgor4099 God’s perfect master plan for man is pictured by His 7 annual Holy Days given to ancient Israel (by Christ, the God of the OT) through Moses. God added much revelation about the fulfillment of these days through His OT prophets. Christ then spoke in detail about the fulfillment of these days, including the Great White Throne Judgement. Christ then revealed much deeper understanding of the details of which these days picture to His Church. The Old Covenant was physical. The New Covenant is spiritual. The 1st step in God’s master plan to redeem mankind from eternal death is the Passover, but it is not a Holy Day. The Holy Days begin with the Days of Unleavened Bread which picture true Christians utterly putting sin out of their lives. That process is still underway until Christ returns. The fulfillment of the Passover happened at Golgotha. The fulfillment of the next 5 Holy Days after the Days of Unleavened Bread(Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Feast of Tabernacles, and the Last Great Day) can’t happen until Christ’s return. The majority of humankind who have ever lived will be redeemed. Then His plan will really expand beyond our comprehension!
@@Mymimemei It was, but also in obedience. Because that's what Acts 5:32b reads. Believing God at conversion is also an act of obedience. I take the Bible as all true, and let God show me, which our fallible minds cannot comprehend. It's always trying to figure the Bible out rather than asking God, who had it written, what it means. We don't know all, but if we obey Him in truth, He can show us more truth.
I have faith. I lose it. I have faith. I lose it. Why can’t I keep my faith reveal yourself unto me lord, please I beg you I will serve you please let me have faith in you.
I once was struggling with this until I heard this message by Renee Roland: ua-cam.com/video/URl9-L_TjJg/v-deo.html I was instantly released of that burden!! I hope it will lead you to the same freedom!!
I like the fact that Mr Piper went to GOD in prayer first with the question and not just study to find his on answer to make people feel better about GOD. The Word of GOD is The Word of GOD
1) "He desires and calls all to repentance." Not quite. Although God's Moral will is for all to achieve salvation (which does not happen), his effectual will, as outlined in Romans 8: 29-30 paints a very different picture; only those who are presdestined are also called. 2) "It's up to us to reject or accept his gift of salvation." Using the aforementioned passage, a predestined believer cannot reject salvation. It is not up to you or me to accept the gift. God's plan does not hindge on our self-induced choice to believe in Christ's safrifice for our sins. When we come to realize that we believe it's because God willed it to happen. In similar fashion, God also wills people to not believe, Romans 9:11, 9:22. "God just know whom will or will not." Your last part seems to imply that that a person God desperately wants to save can reject the calling. The only people who reject the calling are those who are not predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, and it is not their choice to reject anymore than it is a predestined believer's choice to believe.
@@carlhill847 If that’s the case that God chose some for heaven and all others to hell and we have no ability to change that then why did Christ die on the cross in the first place? If this is true (and it is absolutely not true in any way, shape or form) then Christs death is absolutely meaningless!!!
@@carlhill847, if what you say is truth(I don’t believe it to be truth), please stop preaching the gospel to people God DID NOT choose then. Which means you need to stop preaching the gospel, because you cannot know who God chooses or rejects. You are lying to millions of people with your logic. Also with your(calvinists) logic, the majority of this earths population is doomed with no hope at all. And this is simply not what I get from studying the holy Bible. I have the real Good News for you my friend……… Jesus died for every single human on this planet and for ALL sins! He is the personal savior to ANYONE who places their faith in Him. Clearly taught throughout scripture. Faith alone through grace alone. It’s that simple.
God knows the end from the beginning. So it looks like he is choosing us but he knows everyone before we are born who will cry out to him to be our savior. Have a blessed day.
But that's not the way Paul describes it in Romans 9 or Ephesians 1 & 2. God knows them because He chose them & you're right, they will cry out to Him.
Simple, some are obedient, but most aren’t. He has foreknowledge of all things, and moves all things for the sake of those who will love Him above all else.
Thank You Pastor John for letting me see the light.I Thank our Lord for saving me and chosen me to be saved .For all the things that I had done out of being naive and foolish.Bless You Pastor John....
AMEN. Yes!! I love how Jesus says things. So simple and slices right thru our confusion. I had a hard day and your simple comment of posting this on this video cheered me up a little. Be blessed
@@AnHebrewChild I hope the rest of your week will be better. I've learned that we can live in love, or not. We can live in forgiveness, or not. We can live, being merciful, or not. Whatever we choose to live in either connects with God or not. One of the mistakes theologians make is to try to fill in all the spaces between things God has shown us. The spaces (gaps of our understanding) are there, I believe because we are incapable of understanding some things. But we try to fill in those gaps, and in doing so we are always wrong. No offense to reformed theology, but it's a extreme in trying to fill in the gaps. It's important for us to say, "We don't know; God hasn't revealed it to us." hugs, Mary
How I thank God for visiting me back in the Spring of 1978 and opening my eyes to the reality of Himself and Jesus Christ His Son. EVERYTHING changed at that very moment! I had been trapped by drugs and alcohol--being a professional musician at that time. Jesus became SO real to me and He changed my life by cleaning up the mess I had made of my life and set me on a new path--to dedicate my life to sharing God's amazing grace that is available to anyone who will receive Jesus Christ as their Savior and as their Lord.
This is a very deep chapter, when you dig into it. Seek God in prayers, for your personal answer from The Almighty. I am thankful for His grace and will always believe in God, Jesus as our living Savior, and in the Holy Ghost.
I Love the Lord Yahweh for choosing us who opened our hearts to him. Ever since I opened my heart to him and surrendered, the Holy Spirit entered me and not even my free will or any other human will can seperate me from God. I am his forever.
@@RtwoDtwo-fy8ps we are all sinners sinning everyday and so your logic is flawed because even in your attempt to keep your works boastful and say you don’t sin makes you a liar the Bible says, all men have come short of the Glory of God so Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and our blessed hope of eternal life
No, the choosen are the Isrealities, and non- else. God only made a covenant with the Israelites by animal sacrifice and no OTHER people. Note: Jesus did NOT change a damn thing.
@@bernardnickson1783read scripture and believe. Jesus was the final sacrifice for all sin, only to be rejected by the Jews, who still reject Him to this day
@@bernardnickson1783 Romans 11: 16-24 depicts Israel as distinct from the Church: the “natural branches” are the Jews, and the “wild branches” are the Gentiles. The “olive tree” is the collective people of God. The “natural branches” (Jews) are “cut off” the tree for unbelief, and the “wild branches” (believing Gentiles) are grafted in. This has the effect of making the Jews “jealous” and then drawing them to faith in Christ, so they might be “grafted in” again and receive their promised inheritance. The “natural branches” are still distinct from the “wild branches,” so that God’s covenant with His people is literally fulfilled at the summation of time when the full number of Gentiles are brought in. In Romans 9:3, Paul is in deep sorrow for his Jewish kinsmen for the very reason of the Jews rejection of the Messiah; ie., their "cutting off" from the true vine. There will be a remnant that's restored, so there's good news.
This has been explained so beautifully and as you spoke Pastor John I felt the Love and the compassion of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ♥Thank you Father that your ways are not our ways but your ways and reasoning are prefect♥Glory to your name!♥
It's a dangerous thing to teach condemnation without representation. Oh what damage that has been done by man's mishandling of God's Word. The Church was never intended to be segregated by speculative doctrines.
Some people believe because they are saved and born again they can say anything...forgetting that whatever they have now was not by their own works bit Gods grace. The average heart of a human is wicked and selfish.
It seems to me that Calvinism is a cop out when it hurts so bad to see a loved one die not knowing the Lord. God DOES NOT predestine people for hell. Some choose hell.
I would caution you to study further. God is Sovereign. That means he makes the call. As difficult as this is to absorb it helps to locate scripture and contextually wrestle with it. I strongly recommend you search for John MacArthur sermon on Election. It’s about an hour but rich and he presents the Bible’s clear positions around this. I read many of these for years and it never registered. Who am I? He is the potter.
@@Matt-tj9pi I don't believe in the Calvin club. I believe that Christ died for all humans. I study my bible every day. I see many verses that can be twisted to mean whatever you want. I see Calvinism as elitism. Sorry, you won't change my mind. I have free will ordained by a sovereign God. God bless you.
@@Matt-tj9pi So how do you fit that in with ....... Ro 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. and .... And From our Lord Himself .... Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!
@@fingerzfrienemy2226 that's fine. I look at time travel. People only act the way they act, if you could go back in time and observe it again, you would see the exact same events play out again. Going back in time to watch things wouldn't result in things happening differently, unless you interfered with them. Kinda points towards a sovereign outcome
Look at how many choose to walk with GOD and not because of the church, fellowship, pride or money from the church. But during tribulation and hard times choose to walk with GOD when it is hard. Few and far between.
Your interpretation is exactly in line with the spirit of the living God and it is exactly correct in truth and as you know this you know there’s much more peace be with you come Lord🍷🍞 amen
This is Calvinist heresy! To understand Romans 9 go to this link: www.madisonwilloughby.com/individual-predestination-rom-9.html God loves you and DESIRES that you CHOOSE Him!
I've had spiritual battles ALL MY LIFE. I've backslid and back over and over and I dont deserve this calling, He always picks me up from my lowest point and I've always wondered why He chose to save me, His unfaithful servant, but does not seem to save the others? Now I know the answer. Because He got assignments for you. Through you, He wants to give some people a chance at repentance and only you can get through to them. He also wants to teach you to identify adversity and how to overcome it.
I feel strongly that God and Jesus Christ not only give everyone the gift of freewill but those who have a good heart and do their best(against all odds) to be a good person are chosen for more.
I respectfully disagree on how the specific context of Romans 9 is presented, and its interpretation. In any case, as to salvation (as distinguished from God's appointed role for every individual), 1 Timothy 2:3-6 tells us clearly that God wants all people to be saved. God's sovereign will to choose one's role in His plans and purposes (Romans 9) is not the same as God's sovereign will that all people be saved (1 Timothy 2).
I do understand what you are saying, therefore, I would like to respectfully point out the truth. Not everyone is saved. Indeed God wants all people to be saved because of His loving nature, yet it is evident that not everyone is saved since it is of God's Righteousness to judge those who rejected the Way of Salvation that He Himself provided.
@@Mimu1983 Exactly, though God wants all people to be saved (1 Tim. 2), not everyone will be saved (Matt. 7:21, John 3:18 etc). HOWEVER, the Bible does not clearly and categorically state the actual interplay between God's sovereign will and man's choice on accepting or rejecting the Lord Jesus. At this point in time, we know only in part (1 Cor. 13). Thus, we cannot categorically jump into man-made doctrines such as Calvinism or Predestination. I would humbly say that as of now I cannot yet explain the specifics of how man chooses to accept or reject Jesus, amidst God's sovereign will, authority and purpose; rather than strain or stretch God's Word.
@@_p_5764 I understand the point you try to make. However, though the Scripture does not explicitly state about the interplay between the sovereignty of God and the freewill of man in making choices, we can see how would saved people choose and what the lost people would do. Note that the saving faith is gift from God - it would be nothing short of the grace of God that will convert a person. For the lost, they are darkened in their understanding and stubborn by their nature - in their freest of freewilled choice they reject Jesus Christ. Predestination is in the Scripture; it is not a man-made idea. Calvinism, on the other hands, is NOT the truth per se but it is of most accurate 'observation' of the Scripture. I do not think 'man-made' description is best suited here.
@@Mimu1983 "Calvinism" or "Predestination" insofar as it pertains to the eternal "destiny", or APPOINTED salvation or damnation of a specific individual is unbiblical and not supported by scripture. It's a man-made interpretation that is contradicted by: 1 Timothy 2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who WANTS ALL PEOPLE TO BE SAVED and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom FOR ALL PEOPLE. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time. Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared that OFFERS SALVATION TO ALL PEOPLE . 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE to perish, but EVERYONE TO COME TO REPENTANCE. Ezekiel 18:23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
@@_p_5764 Perhaps those are the most misunderstood verses in critiquing 'Calvinism'. The simple reality is this - not everyone is saved. Even now, there are people screaming curses to God and going to hell. Yes, God is love. In His love, He wants all people to be saved. Jesus Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all people, and Salvation offered to all people - yet people reject Him and mock anyone who accepts Him. Therefore, they shall face the full wrath of God who is Righteous. God, in His love, does not want anyone to perish indeed, but very few come to repentance - thus they shall be sent to hell by God, in His righteousness. Salvation is for ANYONE who comes to Christ Jesus and believes, not for EVERYONE. I think I have been using this analogy too much but here it goes; God gave the Salvation freely and the faith is indeed the gift from God - but God did not institute some sort of social welfare program that everyone gets the benefit. I cannot contradict the Scripture. Please read the first Chapter of the Book of Ephesians. I cannot deny the reality either. People are dying and going to hell.
God is so good and merciful. He knows our hearts. He knows who will be willing to pick up their cross and follow Jesus and who will not. Ppl who aren't willing, HE said HE will leave them to their repribated minds.
Matthew 22:8-12 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. This parable shows an element of human choice in answering God's call.
Yeah, there’s no rule that says God has to give everyone mercy, (or anyone mercy for that matter) but it still makes me feel kinda dirty that people just like me will never have a chance at salvation when I had so many.
I felt that way too attempted to turn my life over to God several times and failed. Then recently I decided to put aside any thoughts, opinions, beliefs, or anything I'd ever been taught and read the bible for myself. Everything is totally different this time. Start with the words of Christ. Hunger and thirst after his words. We have to do our part as well
John 3:16. We all have a free will to choose Christianity or not to obey His principles or not. Our obedience to God gives us blessings. God's word says u honor me the and I will honor you. It's about free will. With a good Biblical concordance look up to words: Free, freedom, liberty, obey, door, choose, follow, agreement, covenant, believe, spiritually clean. Psalms 103 especially vs 13. Scripture if full of the love of God if only we will open our life and let Him be our redeemer, leader, guide, friend.
I believe the entire Bible. But I am in no way a pagan christian. Religion is the work of the devil. Come out of her my people that you may not partake in her sins.
Good works were prepared in advance by the Holy Spirit that we walk in them(Epesians 2:8-10) However these works don't give one the salvation,but inheritance, possessions, crowns, glory reward,award in the heavenly kingdom. (1Cor.3:10-15;Luke 19:12-26;Revelation 14:13; 19:6-9;Matthew 25:31-36;Luke 14:12-15;Luke 12:32,33,34; 1Cor9:24-27;Colossians 3:23-25)
Some are genuinely sincere and walk in righteousness with God. Some, are lukewarm and are indecisive about God and walk in the flesh and worship idols.
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. [Prov:16:4] In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. [Lk:10:21]
Well done. Scripture is sufficient to study scripture. Scripture alone speaks authoritatively, and it speaks to all believers, independently of church leaders and councils, human interpreters and so-called spokesmen for God.
Look up the day of evil in scripture. It's only mentioned 2 other times. In Jeremiah 17:17 and 17:18 there is explains what the day of evil is. The day of evil clearly talks about a temple destruction. Those prosecuting Jeremiah are God chosen ppl, the ppl of Judea. For rebelling against God they are getting the double destruction Jeremiah 17:1-4 the ppl of Judea the warning they will serve their enemies because they have kindled Gods anger with their behaviour. We know the rest of the story that the ppl of Judea didn't repent. They will be serving their enemy after Nebuchadnezzer wipes them out. The wicked mention in proverbs 16:4 is Nebuchadnezzer. The Bible does not contradict. Also the Bible is it's own dictionary
PLEASE pray for me my friends that I do not get a "holier-than-thou" attitude now that I have been born again. Pray for me!!! I HATE my pride and ego and it makes me sick! I do NOT deserve GOD but he elected me anyways!!!!
Calvinism teaches no one can call on the Lord, because they are so depraved, they have no ability to. So given that teaching, how you going to preach the gospel to anyone, if they are so dead they can't hear? You got saved because you trusted in God, in the gospel. The calvinists will tell you that is impossible. Read the scripture below. Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. Is Jesus speaking the truth or are the calvinists? You should decide who you are going to start trusting. You listen to men and their doctrines, they will indoctrinate you and that is not wise. Jesus clearly says that they have an option to choose whether to enter, just because God says he chooses, means many call on him, but some simply do not really do it with a sincere heart. He chooses those with a sincere heart. He doesn't just randomly select unbelievers, that's not only not scriptual, but makes no common sense. You got saved because you trusted in the Lord and believed. Go out and learn God's word, so you can preach the good news. The good news is Jesus died for everyone and everyone can look up and see Gods grace in Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins. If you become a calvinist you will have a lot of trouble doing that, because they don't believe Jesus died for everybody.
So how does this line up with an older video John posted concerning being completely dead in our trespasses, totally unable to make ourselves believe and be raised to new life anymore than a dead corpse can raise itself to life? We are commanded to believe. We are responsible to believe but we cannot make ourselves believe. It's a gift of God.
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God chooses everyone - and they have to choose Him back. Not too complicated, really. Bible says it's His wish that NONE should perish and all should come to repentance. Choosing Him back means being born again first, receiving the Holy Spirit as the second impartation of God's spirit - most of the church doesn't understand this including famous pastors - and third we must be obedient. He doesn't change - the wages of sin is death. Usually when I start hearing the sovereignty of God junk I am ready for the next bunch of lies. He IS sovereign and as such He decided to put His word above His name and keep covenants with man. He says "You do this and I'll do this" and He also says "You don't do this and I won't do this" and He also says "Do wrong and be destroyed." The end.
Bunch of Bologna!
God does not reject anyone!
@@theonetrueking2685 "Born again" is" belief"
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All I can say is, I don't make the rules, but thank the LORD that He chose to save me out of my wickedness!
One of the lucky bitches
Faith is not luck, it is not by chance, it’s from a merciful and graceful GOD.
@@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399 Eternal life is the Gift , not faith. We can all exercise faith.
MrBazinthenow
I don’t believe what you said pertains to anything I’ve said.
Yes, Eternal Life is from GOD The Father through the sacrificial death of His Begotten Son.
Love GOD with all your heart, mind, body and soul and continue to walk humbly with our Father.
Love mercy and do justly.
@@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399The Faith ( trust ) for salvation is something we do , then that is acceptable to God and Eternal life is given.
I lost my family because of my addiction.. I am presently alive.. Healthy and not incarcerated.
For that I give God the glory. 🙏🏽
God's Blessings Always, my Brother..
Indeed, praise the Lord.
Jesus is o😅ur savior the bible is our life book ❤❤😅😅
I'm definitely more than grateful that He chose to save me from years of drugs, alcohol and so many other addictions as well as so many potential serious accidents!! Praise God 4 all eternity
Please change your profile picture, Abstain from all apearance of evil, please Honestly Confess Jesus As Lord with your mouth And Believe He Died And That God Rose Him From The Dead,turn away from swearing, using God's Name in vain, making and having images that are supposed to be Them, using electronics too much, decieving, Praying to statues,Mary,Saints,Angels...,lying, over eating and over drinking, magic, negative music, selfish ambitions, laziness, pride,lust,hate,gossip,cigars,drugs,video games,movies,anime,idolatry(obssesions,un healthy connections to something,someone,addictions..) and that kind of stuff, Be Baptised, Dedicate yourself To God Fully,Obey Him And Trust In Him And Jesus
@@Alexander-ss3su don't joke like that, do you believe In God at all?
KING OF THE UNIVERSE INDEED ‼️
@@Alexander-ss3su I pray you will be free from your bondage, addiction and slavery of substance abuse (worship)
Turn in repentance to Jesus whom he sets free is indeed.
Today is the day of salvation, you are not promised tomorrow.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amen! The Son also set me free from addiction. Praise be the Name of Jesus forever!🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙏
I don’t know why he chose me but I’m more than happy and grateful!!!
Same
Same as me
Thank u our creator for seeing my true heart ❤️
Same me that was the question I have been asking myself
Ephesians 1:4, ESV: "even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love"
@@missk6295 Ephesians 1:4, ESV: "even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love"
This made me think of Apostle Peter, he kept leaving Jesus, left to go back fishing, then denied knowing Jesus, yet Jesus kept after him until he got Peter for good finally. God must see something in our hearts that even we don’t see. Just my thoughts on this..... 💞
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Blessed Thoughts.
Something He himself put there.
@@elimarc3891 No
He has to.... thanks for sharing that
i'm so thankful to God for opening my eyes and saving me
Amen
Me too praise the Lord sister in Christ 🙏🏼💓💕😘
Me, too! I was a wretch but He washed me and changed my life totally. Can’t wait to see Him and worship in person!
Amen! 💛🙏🏽
These two lessons by John Doerr on what it means to truly be born again are very liberating! The Trueth of the real Jesus Christ’s gospel of grace toward the sinner has been hidden by Rome’s Jesuits and scholars, who work tirelessly to cast doubt on the Word of God. The devil has deceived the whole world. (Rev 12:9)
ua-cam.com/video/E5TDOs_tLpQ/v-deo.html - born again basics pt1
ua-cam.com/video/lwj78N080cw/v-deo.html - born again basics pt2
Romans 8:2
“For the law of the spirit of life, in Christ Iesus, hath made me free from the law of sinne and death.”
The fundamental problem is the corruption of Gods word.
In this link you can find a lesson on the unbroken testimony of Jesus Christ in the English language which is found in the authorized version of 1611. ua-cam.com/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/v-deo.html
2 Corinthians 2:17
“For wee are not as many which corrupt the word of God: but as of sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of God speake we in Christ.”
I pray for salvation day and night for my husband for more than44 years I am at times discouraged anguished that my unbelieving hubby
iam despaired that God has shut His ears to my cries, forgotten my prayers for help
I don't hide my faith, I go to church brought up my2 sons in the faith thank God
So please pray with me that me and my house shall serve the Lord
By God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ everlasting bloodshed sacrifice alone. present him with this (The Gospel) and ask him if he wishes to truly accept this truth. He will become sealed with the Holy Spirit for eternity regardless of the outward changes in his life. Salvation is a free gift but ongoing discipleship/sanctification through the Holy Spirit will carry a cost in this world (and possibly a reward in Heaven).
Just be patient beloved sister keep praying and believing and the Lord will hear your prayers
@@jaysonb.6669in 44yrs am sure she’s done everything she knows to do. She is enough for her family, her salvation covers her husband and herself. All she can do is what the Bible says and that’s to teach her children and her children’s children about repentance and the kingdom and all it in tells. Her husband is her leader, the Bible says for women not to teach men. I commend her for keeping her marriage as holy as she can all these years. God bless her! In God’s time he chose he wants when he wants.
Whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord shall be saved
That means everyone in the whole world…….not the so-called elect
The path is narrow for a reason. Not everyone needs to be up there. Look around you. The world is full of snakes. God probably didn't die for most of the them. Their hearts have waxed so cold that it'll take the gates of he!! just to thaw them out for Satan to torment. Seriously. God's in the separation business. Most won't make it.
@@quantumpotential7639 Dude but will God still accept anybody who comes to him in repentence?
@@talesfromburma2320 I think so. But He probably doesn't want any pretenders just so they avoid going to hel)l. But you'll have to consult His Word to be sure.
The vessels of wrath fitted to destruction will not call on His name.
I am thankful to God the Father to giving me faith to believe upon his Son for salvation
Hey Carl, hows master shake treating you?
Terry Henderson If you have not placed your personal faith in Christ then you are not saved. The Bible never teaches we are saved by the faith of another.
We are saved by grace through faith. Faith is not the gift, eternal life is the gift. Throughout the Scriptures, both old and new testaments, individuals are exhorted to repent and believe.
Josh 24:15 CHOOSE FOR YOURSELVES TODAY whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
V 22 Joshua said to the people, “You are witnesses against yourselves that you have CHOSEN FOR YOURSELVES THE LORD, to serve Him.
Heb 3:7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS
Heb 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for HE WHO COMES TO GOD MUST BELIEVE THAT HE IS and that He is a rewarder of THOSE WHO SEEK HIM.
We are living in the last days where they will no longer endure sound doctrine. If you have not placed your personal faith in Christ then you are not saved.
@Karen Porter You sound like an angry little Calvinist. In case you failed to comprehend what I was saying, Non-Calvinists refute the Calvinistic teaching that the faith to believe is a gift from God; eternal life is the gift. To receive this free gift the sinner must place his personal faith in Christ. Sticks and stones ..........
@Spacecoastz I read the post and I don't understand the point you are making.
@@gregjay9933 i don't think anyone is disagreeing with you when you say that a person must choose to put there full faith and trust in Jesus ALONE. What we ( calvinist) are saying is it is by grace that GOD has given us the desire to do that.
This is the age of grace, "for by grace are you saved through faith... it is the gift of God".
@@imsaltylit3101
Romans 4:3
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
All people through time were saved by grace through faith, but they all believed something different.
For us today it's that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again according to the scriptures
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Everyone is saved by faith and had to put their faith in what God instructed them to do.
Abraham believed God.
Noah built an ark.
The children of Israel had to keep the law.
Israel had to believe that Jesus Christ was their Messiah.
We believe that Jesus Christ paid for our sins on a cross that He died in our place and shed His blood for the forgiveness of our sins and rose again for our justification.
Adam and hava also lived in the period of grace
@@bycracky22 Gods grace has always been the means by which man can be reconciled to Himself.
At different times He gave different instructions on what men are to believe to be right with Him.
In these last days God is not willing that any should perish but to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth, which is by Grace alone through faith alone and not of any works.
Saved by grace in OT too......Genesis 6:8 "Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." In the OT they were looking by faith forward to the Cross.....you and I look with faith back to the Cross....All saved by grace through faith in Christ.....Only one savior....
@@timclark2925 Noah believed God and built an ark while he was preaching the coming judgment that was to come. If he didn't do that (works) he wouldn't have been saved. He didn't know that Jesus Christ would die on a cross be buried and be resurrected, nor did anyone else until Paul revealed that today we are saved by grace through faith and not by any works of the law.
To those people who commented, "He didn't choose me," I really felt that. But you know, just want to tell you that God loves you very much. He even sacrificed His only begotten Son to die for you- for us! So don't even think about that again. God wants all of us to be with Him in Heaven in eternity. Yes, God knows His "chosen one" but that doesn't mean that you're not one of them. Believe me, you can be one of them. Just have faith in Him and obey Him, that's just He wants you to do. Have faith in Him. Trust Him with all your heart. And no, God doesn't play favoritism. He listens to those who need Him. So, if you need Him, cry out to Him, He will listen to you. Yes, following God is not easy but it will be worth it until the end. Just always remember, God loves you and He's waiting for you to run back to Him. Just trust Him. God bless, Child of God.
😢😢😢 I sinned too much and too long
@@pgm960 God will forgive your sins, all you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ that He came to earth to die for our sins and admit your sins honestly to God and repent that is turn away from your sins.
God bless you brother. God loves you so much all we have to do is accept that love.
God really loves me, he gave my only daughter terminal cancer at 3. But let Mr Fritzl live for decades to rape his own daughter. Praise be to God fukwits.
@Jens Johansson God chooses people with reason. refer 2thessalonians2:10&12 "bec they REFUSED to love the truth and SO BE SAVED" and "but HAD PLEASURE in unrighteousness". from this verse we can say that if a person goes to hell its bec they choose too and not as God wanted to.
@@starskyarsky8374 so sorry for you loss... this world is a nasty place...
I think it’s about your heart. Many are called, few are chosen. He knows the people who will choose Him through thick and thin since we ultimately have free will, but when you are chosen, God knows your heart and faithfulness. He knew Peter would deny Him three times before he even did. Peter even said he wouldn’t deny Jesus, but Jesus still knew before it happened.
This is my personal belief. God knows who will choose Him and that’s why I believe He also chose us. ❤❤❤
As disappointed and heartbroken as I have been in my life, I still know the truth. I know who my savior is no matter what.
This makes more sense to me in light of Scripture, and in light of who God is. Thank you for sharing your insight. I have been struggling with this topic, and it His been getting in the way of my relationship with God.
this isnt true. The Bible says none desire God, none want to follow Him and etc. God chooses who to save off of His desires. There's nothing about us. Its all about Him.
@@arryonastrong5343 God's desire is not ambivalent. While He is certainly the one who initiates the relationship, there is a point where His will meets our will. If it were not true, then we would be robots, involuntary programmed and void of moral responsibility. And if that is the case, He would choose everybody for salvation. For "God is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL would come to repentance.". Otherwise, it would be unjust of Him to consign billions of souls to eternal conscious torment for their parents' waywardness satanic programming.
The point where God's will "ends" and our will "begins" is impossible for us to define precisely. Because we are created in His image, our will is involved. If our will was not involved in establishing a relationship with Him, then we are just robots, programmed to believe what He puts into our CPU. We are no better than an Artificial Intelligence that is designed to gather data and and act according to "if, then" binary logic.
There is much more to be said in the subject. I am familiar with John Calvin's T.U.L.I.P. and disagree with the fundamental ideas, as they are directly contrary to God's Name and Nature.
@@harriedsloth4399 They are contradicting Scripture…..despite what guys such as this pastor and his guest says Calvinism and such like it are condemning millions to hell if they follow the Calvinistic Reformation doctrine and beliefs
@@arryonastrong5343 so we have no free will ? CAP
Many are called = conviction
Few are chosen = those who accept the calling. No-one is predestined to hell. Conviction will come upon all men but few will accept the calling.
Adam Berry- That's the best explanation that I've ever heard on this topic. Thank you
Wow thanks for the breakdown.
Most are never convicted
But isn't that a condition for election? I thought Calvinism taught that election is unconditional and not based on what we do?
I kindly disagree. Read Romans 6 or 2 Corinthians 4:6. You were spiritually dead. Any quickening or spiritual awakening you get comes by the mercy and grace of God. Your flesh could never fully desire to want a relationship with our Creator and the law proved that.
I believe in Jesus Christ, and His death, burial and resurrection!
@ What fiction?
@Amon Ra I copied your channel post from 2 days ago: "When the true God told me the truth, I lost my mind I even became unable to relate to this dark reality controlled by demonic forces and the religious institutes of Satanic agendas and satanic governments.
I even became unable to relate to my family and even my wife and children and twenty year plus "friends", divorce followed and loss of everything except the clothes on my back and a few items at best.
I found refuge in my fathers home for awhile, and after his death and my mothers death I was homeless for awhile living out of my Van, when I spoke the truth concerning the demonic monsters online that run this world they attacked and were not kind hearten in their natures online." I hope you seek help. You've had a rough road.
@ Sir, why r you so bothered if, we Christians are discussing here some Grace stuff.
Hater of God, taking pain to search Christian videos and going to their forum and hunting Christians, really?
@ Be civil, brother.
@ So, millions of people experiencing super - natural stuff around their lives, we should forget that and listen to your feelings as if it is cosmic in nature.
If you haven’t experienced God’s Regenerating of the heart you can’t understand it. When it does happen you know it was by His work on you alone. Only those that have experienced this will know what you mean when you try and explain it. 🙏😇
I was saved in 05. Stepped away from from the Bible and praying, 18 years later God touched my heart through the Holy Spirit. Now I feel bad when I sin. I want to be free of sin one day. Please Lord help me to hate all sins.
You weren't 'saved' in 05. New creations do not 'fall away.' Whoever told you you were saved in 05 was some kind of 'choose Jesus' fraud who just lied to you. I pray you have finally received the gift of saving faith.
@@c.a.g.3130yer right .nobody can jump out of his hand nor can anyone or anything take you out of his hand .All that are in his hand have salvation.
Please have mercy on my soul Lord Jesus when I stand before you on judgement day
And so it shall be😄
plz pray this in your closet...it's better.
This is the bottom line whether we are received into the Kingdom of God at the JSOC where all believers will face judgement. This is what scripture is all about not being justified/born again/called but being sanctified/chosen/soul saved/inheritance/hope. So work out your salvation (soul) with fear to be sure of your entrance per 2 Pt 1.9-11. My hope is that you see this and act.
@@johnhoffman8203 thank you. The Judgement seat of Christ is where true believers give account of lives before Christ, and this is where we receive rewards or not. It is not a salvation judgement seat. That is the White Throne Judgement.
@@friendyadvice2238 Your are correct in that only believers stand before Christ at the JSOC but the reward (glorified body/entrance into the KOG) is based on the salvation of the soul (vice spirit) per 1 Pt 1.9, Heb 10.39, James 1.21. This salvation is our sanctification that Paul preached as his gospel/gospel of the glory of Christ to the gentiles per Acts 20.32/26.18. The inheritance is reign and rule with Christ in the millennium or be cast out to outer darkness/2nd death for 1K years. Our glorified body is at stake here or 1K years later IAW 1 Cor 15.51&52.
Amen many are called but few are chosen, Father God searches ours Hearts first and if we got his Love in ours Hearts he will Protect that because he know it will grow and grow, a Righteous Man will fall 7 times but he will get back up and keep moving closer and closer to Father God, nothing but the Blood Of Jesus can set me Free Father God we Thank you for Grace and your Mercy in the Mighty Name Of Jesus Amen Amen And Amen.
Amen
Doesn't the Bible say we did nothing to deserve to be saved? Our hearts are corrupted also .So why are only certain people chosen then
@@dude9318 because even our faith is a gift of God. He does it ALL. None search after him but the Holy Spirit. EVERYTHING God has done for his children. ALL glory is his, nothing of ourselves. It is a gift.
Notice it says,MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN.It doesn't say,ALL ARE CALLED.JESUS died for many of all men,meaning not only many jews,but many OUT of,every tribe,tongue,nation and people.( gentiles) but not all jews and Gentiles.
Bless God, for his compassion
Please GOD save me in Jesus name...
Thank you for the gift of mercy, grace, love and patience
I've never understood why this is such a confusing or troubling thing for so many people. The Bible shows us who and what we are. Reading that book is like looking into a mirror. (And it even uses that analogy in places.) It shows us we are sinners, through and through, to the core of our being. And we know that, deep inside. If we're honest - even just with ourselves - we KNOW we are sinners.
So we need to start there. We must start with the fact that we are all sinners who ONLY deserve eternal punishment. It's a miracle He chooses to grant mercy to any of us!
Personally, it makes me uncomfortable because it implies that God created certain people for destruction(i.e. some people never had the "ability" to turn to Christ.
I am not disagree with the doctrine, but it is hard to wrap my head around it.
@@konijnkidm6869
is it possible that you may be worshipping or believing in an idol of your own imagination and not biblical GOD of SCRIPTURE?
(Proverbs 16:4 MSTC) The LORD doth all things for HIS own sake; yea, and when he keepeth the ungodly for the day of wrath.
(Proverbs 16:4 GNB) Everything the LORD has made has its destiny; and the destiny of the wicked is destruction.
(Proverbs 16:4 NAS77) The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.
(Job 25:5-6 HCSB) If even the moon does not shine and the stars are not pure in HIS sight, (6) how much less man, who is a maggot, and the son of man, who is a worm!
(Job 25:6 GW) How much less pure is a mortal-who is only a maggot- a descendant of Adam-who is only a worm!"
(Job 25:6 JPS) How much less man, that is a worm! and the son of man, that is a maggot!
(Job 25:6 ABP+) But alas, man is rottenness, and the son of man a worm.
(Job 25:6 LEB) How much less for a human being who is a maggot, and a human who is a worm?"
(Job 25:6 ISV) How much less is man, who is only a maggot, or a man's children, who are only worms!"
(Isaiah 40:17 BBE) All the nations are as nothing before HIM; even less than nothing, a thing of no value.
(Isaiah 40:17 CEV) GOD thinks of the nations as far less than nothing.
(Isaiah 40:17 HCSB) All the nations are as nothing before HIM; they are considered by HIM as nothingness and emptiness.
(Isaiah 40:17 NLT) The nations of the world are worth nothing to HIM. In HIS eyes they count for less than nothing-mere emptiness and froth.
(Daniel 4:35 BSB) All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and HE does as HE pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain HIS hand or say to HIM, ‘What have YOU done?’”
(Daniel 4:35 CEV) To HIM the nations are far less than nothing; GOD controls the stars in the sky and everyone on this earth. When GOD does something, we cannot change it or even ask why."
(Daniel 4:35 HCSB) All the inhabitants of the earth are counted as nothing, and HE does what HE wants with the army of heaven and the inhabitants of the earth. There is no one who can hold back HIS hand or say to HIM, "What have YOU done?"
(Daniel 4:35 UST) HE regards all the people in the world as insignificant. HE has the power to do whatever HE wants to do. HE does whatever HE wants with the angel armies in heaven and with us who live on the earth. So no one can correct HIM; no one can challenge HIM; no one can say to HIM, "Why are YOU doing these things?"
@@thebestdothereis,
This problem of 'Election and Predestination of the Calvinists' can NEVER be
Resolved because John Calvin missed one VERY IMPORTANT Ingredient of
this Doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'......
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the
scriptures...
However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine....
He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine
of 'Election and Predestination'....
So, Calvinism is '''''TRUTH MIXED WITH LIES''''' and it is more dangerous than
lies alone....
I have asked several Calvinists this question, which NONE of them were able to
answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the
answer....
My Question :
How did God Choose those whom He will save?
Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at
random....
The Answer is:
OF COURSE GOD CHOSE HIS OWN CHILDREN....
It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world,
'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'....
In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are
these two groups of people, and where did they come from...
The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved...
The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned.....
The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but
by HEREDITY....
I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED....
The Sheep inherited the character of God,
The goats inherited the character of the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and
inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin
but the sinful nature....
That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect....
(hope this clarifies you)
The elects were fallen and they need to be saved....
There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of
John Calvin...
All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost....
John 17:12(KJV)
''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you
gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition''';
that the scripture might be fulfilled.''
(the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of
perdition, a goat)
Example of Goats :
Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses.
Example of Sheep :
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas....
NOTE :
The difference between the Sheep and the goats....
The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire
to please God,
Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves...
(all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and desire
to please God,
while others don't love God and don't desire to please God)
Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching.....
The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin....
That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true
gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the gospel
of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to preach....
Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed
God for his sin of killing Abel....
How about John 3:16 ?
John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.''
''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the
Elect
will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the
character of God....
The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent...
Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done....
''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the
Sheep will believe the gospel and repent.....
Thanks for reading....
@@konijnkidm6869,
This problem of 'Election and Predestination of the Calvinists' can NEVER be
Resolved because John Calvin missed one VERY IMPORTANT Ingredient of
this Doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'......
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the
scriptures...
However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine....
He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine
of 'Election and Predestination'....
So, Calvinism is '''''TRUTH MIXED WITH LIES''''' and it is more dangerous than
lies alone....
I have asked several Calvinists this question, which NONE of them were able to
answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the
answer....
My Question :
How did God Choose those whom He will save?
Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at
random....
The Answer is:
OF COURSE GOD CHOSE HIS OWN CHILDREN....
It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world,
'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'....
In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are
these two groups of people, and where did they come from...
The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved...
The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned.....
The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but
by HEREDITY....
I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED....
The Sheep inherited the character of God,
The goats inherited the character of the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and
inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin
but the sinful nature....
That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect....
(hope this clarifies you)
The elects were fallen and they need to be saved....
There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of
John Calvin...
All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost....
John 17:12(KJV)
''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you
gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition''';
that the scripture might be fulfilled.''
(the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of
perdition, a goat)
Example of Goats :
Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses.
Example of Sheep :
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas....
NOTE :
The difference between the Sheep and the goats....
The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire
to please God,
Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves...
(all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and desire
to please God,
while others don't love God and don't desire to please God)
Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching.....
The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin....
That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true
gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the gospel
of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to preach....
Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed
God for his sin of killing Abel....
How about John 3:16 ?
John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.''
''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the
Elect
will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the
character of God....
The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent...
Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done....
''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the
Sheep will believe the gospel and repent.....
Thanks for reading....
@@konijnkidm6869
There are a lot of things about God that I don't think we'll ever fully understand in this life. What is 100% clear, though, is that I'm a sinner. And so is everyone else. We ALL deserve judgement!
God is sovereign. He owes us nothing. We are created FOR Him and BY Him. Faith is a gift of mercy that some of us receive and His power will be on display in not only us believers but also in the objects of wrath. God is perfectly just, this is HIS story, not ours. A hard truth for new Christians for sure but once you come to know the love and goodness of our Lord it becomes much easier to understand His sovereignty and our place as small, highly valued, but small parts of His large family of believers. May I see you all in heaven one day!
do u mean we are created for him to be his family?
what do you think what is God's story about? Can you explain me your point of view
Yes but you are the vessel of rat you are going to hell
Praises be to God who is sovereign.
God bless you 🙏 ❤️ 🙌 all
Thank you for this teaching. I am so amazed at no matter how many I have read the Bible and how much I learned there is more.
Sometimes I believe The Lord withholds our understanding of His words to individuals until they can perceive its true meaning fully into their hearts.
Why he said lean not in your own understanding.
So true! We're not all at the same place in our walk with God!
Thank you JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!! I heard this message loud and clear!!! Brought a lot of tears of joy to my eyes!! I barley came across romans 9 today for the first time and I read it. As I was reading it, I asked God; Lord please help me fully understand this chapter. So I read it and I thought to myself, there has to be more to this chapter that I’m not understanding cause something deep inside told me, God loves us all. We are all his children and I can’t fully understand why would my God turn someone away who is seeking him... So 2 hours later I come across this video and now it all made perfect sense! Brought me to many tears cause I instantly thought about my whole family and everyone who I’m trying to talk to about God in these last hours! 🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️
Hopefully you are aware of Roman’s 9-11 in its fullness. Calvinism /Reformed theology are nothing like Jesus the Messiah.
God will NEVER turn anyone away who is truly seeking Him. He said when we seek Him with all our heart we WILL find Him.
@@sandyjuntunen4088no one seeks after God Romans 3
Romans 9 refers to Jacob(Israel) Esau(Edom)
Not individuals.
Calvinism is based on unbiblical books murderer john calvin wrote not inspired by the holy spirit in the 1600.
T.U.L.I.P is demonic and unbiblical cult who keeps this a secret.
I remember reading Romans 9 the first time, then reading it again, and again, and again. I finally moved on because I concluded I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. It's truly terrifying to think that had I not been chosen there is nothing I could do to spend eternity with the Lord.
The full counsel of scripture will put it in perspective. Though we can’t fully grasp how God makes His choices, His Word gives us many indications as to how we can know we’re chosen. Namely if we seek God, we’ve been given a new heart. The natural unredeemed man rebels against God and does not love His commandments.
Due to the Fall of man in the garden. Sin/Death entered by way of Adam our patriarch. Because of this sin man inherently is born into the world in bondage, spiritually dead. Meaning although our will is free in desire & action, it is perpetually led towards rebellion against God, favoring the sins of the world. Because of this bondage we are “lost” unable to save ourselves without the Grace of God. In Gods sovereignty He freely bestows His grace upon those He deems fit before the foundation of the world.(Eph 1:4) This is important because it is not based on mans desire/will, or exertion while on earth(Rom9:16) but rather on Gods Will & Mercy. It is mercy as by the Law all men are deserving of judgement. So we can rest assured that everyone who is “chosen/elected” are so according to Gods purpose that is always pure & righteous due to every further action of God being Just as it was not of obligation to save anyone to begin with.
I feel the same exact way. If I wasn't drawn in, I would be living like everyone else , and wake up in hell. Absolutely horrifying. The fear of the Lord is on me hard.
@@jacobbrownfield5753 the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom..Proverbs 9:10. ❤️
Better go on your knees and praise God everyday for the rest of your life. Trust me..some are not so fortunate. Imagine suffering on earth, dying and sent straight to hell.
I had a degree in religious studies. I studied all religions and got into new age. I got into an indescribable depression 2020 the very start of COVID due to some unforeseeable circumstances and made a will and got life insurance. For 1.5 years i didn't know which day was last but was certain that was my fate. I even had a friend who had a terrifying dream that I took my life. (I'll explain to her soon : ) )one night i got on my knees and told God I would serve him for the rest of my life if he help me through. That moment was the very first time I had absolutely no doubt my prayer was answered and my depression left immediately and he brought me to Jesus Christ. I never would've thought that Jesus Christ was living God until I gave my life to God. I feel like the luckiest person to be chosen by him but also feel terrible by those who will never know him. I met good people and had a close friend leave the world the way I had planned. Glory be to God!
“I know now why Can’t reach God because I am one the damned the non elect”. Breaks my heart I just read that in one of responses. I want to tell you with all my heart and in my spirit God Loves you. He loves you so much that He gave His only begotten Son to die so that WHOSEVER believes on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. He died for you. He loves you. God said He wishes no one to perish. This predestination from before time to heaven or hell. It is a stumbling block. It hurts people and it’s not God pleasing. Jesus died for “the Whole WORLD” as He said. Believe and experience the absolute beauty of His love. OH my Soul can not contain the LOVE of the Lord. BELIEVE
@@Mymimemei Amen
My take: "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God" We are saved by faith, and the grace of God. Begin reading the Bible and choose to believe it. "If you seek me you will find me if you search for me with all your heart." Just begin the journey towards Him and like the prodigal's father at some point he will run to embrace you. Faith comes by reading His word, saturating yourself in its truths. It is alive as Christ is alive. He says He will turn no one away who comes to him.
Amen.
How many scriptures does Satan twist and send people of supposed biblical understanding out to repeat?! TULIP (today's Calvinist) all hinges on the error of their supposed understanding of God's Total Sovereignty. They fail to understand that "God's desiring that none should perish. . . . ." (what do they do with this?) yet the majority will go to hell, is not at odds with God's total sovereignty. Only one way to the Father - Jesus. The Father's requirement is "we believe in He whom He has sent". God's total sovereignty does desire that "none should perish" but if they do not "believe", it is His total sovereign will that they spend eternity in the lake of fire. Our Free Will is exactly what it is. Free to believe, trust, follow, obey or reject His Son, the Christ. Our choice. God's sovereign will is not challenged or affected by our choice.
Diane Anderson Remember, the natural man doesn’t receive the things of the spirit , they are foolishness to him neither can they understand it because they are spiritually discerned-1Cor 2:14..You’re not born of your own will only by God’s will John 1:13..if God doesn’t draw you to Christ you’ll never understand or believe the gospel no matter how much you read it..the prodigal son was about the sheep that was lost but found not about people of the world who were never part of His flock..And remember also that none is good , none is righteous and none seeks after God-Rom 3.. so those who will seek after God with all their heart and might are those whom He has chosen..Don’t twist the words to win people to Christ , that’s why there are many false converts in the world today..tell them the truth of the gospel and if the believe , glory to God and if they don’t let them be, if they are part of the flock of Christ they will eventually believe when God says it’s time for them to believe..No one can pluck anyone whom God has give Christ out of His hand-John 10:28-29 ❤️
I’m so confused. This is very tough for me. I’m going to have to listen to this again.
Once you understand it...its very simple.
I had a really hard time understanding it too. Took me a long while but I kept asking God to help me understand it and He did. It's good to read and listen to stuff related to this (I did it a lot and still doing it) but most importantly, we should always always come to God and seek the truth from His word because He's the ultimate source of all the answers. 😊
@@joycetotheworld4682 amen
Basically its for those of what God chooses, so God chooses some to be and some to not to be, not in a threatening way to hurt a human but to hide His glory from those that dont deserve it unless they come but in this of Pharoh is harden of his heart cuz of God using Moses to harden the Pharohs heart.
God chooses to those that he knows that are His and loves them cuz they are meant to be with Him cuz God loves them. And yes some others live a good life and godly life and have everything vut God loves us all vut God is willing to show and use a person that is weak and less and to use this person for power and to show God's glory through a person like this just like Moses, just like St.Paul, etc., its just how it is, but to be able to avoid this of not getting and seeing God's blessing and glory...just give in, surrender all, dont be like Pharoh even though God made Pharoh to harden of the heart, but back then is back then and now its new testament so choose now of surrender to God cuz the scriptures has been fulfilled. This is the reason why.
I hope this helps to clear your mind of wondering.
“This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.””
John 6:39-40
Everyone will see Him and all will believe.
@@James_no_hell All who are ordained to eternal life. Acts 13:48.
@@c.a.g.3130 The Bible says "all shall know Him from the least to the greatest"....which would mean "all" are ordained". unless you don't believe that the scripture I sited is true? It's a repeated verse in both the Old and New Testaments.
@@c.a.g.3130 Acts 13:48
“And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life; believed.”
So you're saying that their belief was pre ordained? But when the Bible says that;
"all shall know Him from the least to the greatest".it only .means "all of a few which are ordained??
No "all shall know Him means all will eventually believe.
No;
The.truth is: all are forgiven... but just a relative few find out about forgiveness through Christ during this lifetime. "Forgiveness" and "saved" are two different things...."saved' is finding out about Christ during our earthly life. Forgiven is what happened to all because of what Christ did for us ALL. It doesn't change anything whether YOU believe it or not. Believing in an exclusive Gospel is not believing in "good news" but is mostly believing in bad news.
@@c.a.g.3130 Repentance is a "death to self". Therefore when we do actually physically
die it is also "repentance". All will be raised in a new life. Why would any suffer eternally in the spirit? Our body is the " wicked"......and because of that; our bodies die and rot to nothing. Our spirit goes to God; living forever.
Saved for 36 years...since 1987. Pastored for 30 years and I find myself often asking why does HE choose anyone?
Love. His plan is perfect. So is His love.
Purpose and counsel of his WILL and he does ALL his Good pleasure.
All are eventually in Heaven because all are forgiven. All will rise and all will be in Heaven because of Jesus.!!
@@James_no_hellGod forbid that we should partake with sinners who place no faith in Jesus on the earth. For this is where he died, so we must also die to self here.
@@xavierthomas5835 (????)
.Jesus partook with sinners on earth. Jesus died for sinners on earth; all sinners; for all time.
WE are sinners on earth. Because we all are sinners; this body (this shiell) will corrode away to nothing in the grave; all flesh will; (everybody!). We are no better than anyone else. The only better that we have is that we know the Lord and we look beyond the grave to eternal life with Jesus. The many who do not know Jesus only perceive the grave. Although there will be more for them also because Jesus died for the entire world.
A man can only receive what has been given to him from a above 🍷🍞
Jn 6:33 "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world." Was the True bread which came down from heaven given only for a few people or for the whole world?
John 3: 25 Therefore there arose a discussion on the part of John’s disciples with a Jew about purification. 26 And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified, behold, He is baptizing and all are coming to Him.” 27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. 28 You yourselves [g]are my witnesses that I said, ‘I am not the [h]Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent ahead of Him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Soooo... rain?
Thank God that He sent Jesus from above then who is the true light that lighteth all men who come into the world. Please rethink where you're headed with this.
The Spirit of God have to testify in that man and if not that man is dead spiritually dead the sanctification works must be done in a person by the spirit of the living God Jesus came that we may have eternal life peace be with you🍷🍞
He who has EAR, let him hear what the spirit says.
You mean wheat.
I cant see your response here in this thread tho
We need faith in Gods incorruptible word to hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church.
These two lessons by John Doerr on what it means to truly be born again are very liberating! The Trueth of the real Jesus Christ’s gospel of grace toward the sinner has been hidden by Rome’s Jesuits and scholars, who work tirelessly to cast doubt on the Word of God. The devil has deceived the whole world. (Rev 12:9)
ua-cam.com/video/E5TDOs_tLpQ/v-deo.html - born again basics pt1
ua-cam.com/video/lwj78N080cw/v-deo.html - born again basics pt2
Romans 8:2
“For the law of the spirit of life, in Christ Iesus, hath made me free from the law of sinne and death.”
The fundamental problem is the corruption of Gods word.
In this link you can find a lesson on the unbroken testimony of Jesus Christ in the English language which is found in the authorized version of 1611. ua-cam.com/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/v-deo.html
2 Corinthians 2:17
“For wee are not as many which corrupt the word of God: but as of sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of God speake we in Christ.”
God, thanks for choosing 3 of us and giving us the Good News Bible at night. Amen 🙏
Thank you Lord for choosing me and not giving up on me. ❤️ Have mercy on my soul. 😞❤️🙏
He will only choose you if you choose Him.
❤️
@@timothyseals3791 that's not biblical. We are not saved because we chose Him. He chooses us.
God has chosen CERTAIN people to be saved:
Ephesians 1:4, 5, 9, 11
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will.
@@Wavesfromthenorth If that’s the case then how do you know for certain that you’re one of the so-called “chosen”?
According to Calvinism and the satanic doctrine of T.U.L.I.P you can’t know until you die….so how can you be sure of your final destination?
Very simply you can’t know according to Calvinism and the twisted satanic unbiblical doctrine of T.U.L.I.P.
AMEN THANK YOU JESUS
Amen! What hope we have in Jesus Christ! Praise God for His mercy and kindness. Seek Jesus Christ above all else
God has mercy on all, He hardens the hearts of those who CONTINUALLY choose to have no faith in Jesus Christ,
WHOSOEVER calls on the name of tHe Lord shall be saved
People read read read the bible for yourselves, test all the spirits
Can you help me understand why in one part Jesus says all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, and in another part he says not everyone who says Lord, Lord, shall see the kingdom of God. So, which is true?
Only the ones God has shown mercy to are chosen The rest he leaves to their own destruction and passes over them
Basically, God hardens the hearts of those who want their hearts hardened (2 Thes 2:10-11).
@@elainewat2607 so many people will says Lord Lord but they know that they never repent and still love their sins and all they do only to please themselves. We can see them clearly like these false teachers in some mega churches for great example. And their conggregation love prosperity gospel so much and they idolize their pastors and when someone wants to show them about the truth in the Bible they refuse it. We can see it clearly.
@@arioselisabeth4400 you are right. Its very sad.
I didn’t choose the holy life, the holy life chose me
Good for you
Exactly. Its the case for all the elect. And Romans 9 only supports this.
What do you mean?
@@Glasstable2011 I think God chooses who he will save
@@justanormalartist801 why do you believe that?
John Piper is the most amazing preacher/teacher of all time! He gets deep into the each passage and explains it in a practical manner that we can understand! Pastor Piper is so much more knowledgeable than the average pastor, he's really an extraordinary man and preacher and I'm so thankful for all his video's. THANK YOU Pastor Piper!! Thank you God for giving John Piper the knowledge to teach us all so very much.
Amen I appreciate 🙏 him so much as well God bless John Piper hes a great teacher ! 😊
@@faithrose4440 isn't it wonderful to be able to learn so much from pastor John, he has a biblical and sensible answer to every question. I just love him!!
I stand at the door and knock if ANY man answers i will come in and sup ( share) with him
Burt Burty amen
This anyone is an elect who is lost in the world but to be taken home, heavenly home.he need to open his heart through the conviction of the Holy Spirit(2Thess.2:13-17)
@@davidochieng2975 no it is any man or woman ,he knocks but it has to be by freewill a choice jesus died for that freewill God created us with freewill out of love knowing by giving his creation freewill we would rejects him then planned to pay the price for that freewill through his own sweet son. He loves the world but the wonderful gift of freewill can destroy his loved creation sit and think about it for awhile such love such love he made you so you could reject him and provided a way back through his own sons death .Jesus did it out of love for his father and us and the father did it out of love for his creation and the Holy sprite lives in those who have accepted jesus even though we fail and fail all day long
@@imaidiot1997 Exactly but bible always refer both male and female as man(Genesis 5:1-2)
@@imaidiot1997 God has been too good to us. We are so undeserving of his Grace. It makes no sense at all why he continues to love us. I just can't wrap my mind around that kind of love and yet I am so gratefully appreciative of his mercy. I long for the day that I meet Jesus and fall at his feet with praise and thanks. My sins forgiven. The evils of the world shaken off of me. Nothing but the sweet paradise of Heaven. Finally free from the blasphemous thoughts! I will collapse at the throne in complete awe of my King.
It made me cry when I listened to this. I had no idea when I clicked to listen. And tomorrow I will lead a Bible study of Roman 8 and 9. The Holy Spirit must have arranged to show me this clip. Thank you Jesus! Thank you God! Pastor John thank you for your amazing explanation.
Please know that Jesus died for you because God loves you and wants YOU to live in heaven with Him. Find out the truth about Romans 9 at this link. You will be so glad you did. Choose Jesus, Choose life! In Christian service, Madison. www.madisonwilloughby.com/individual-predestination-rom-9.html
Because we listen to his calling. ❤😊
I cant wait to give Jesus a hug.
Hi my friend.Because this is will of GOD,because it is the work of GOD, and HE has mercy on whom He wills, and on those who are pleasing to Him,
people must be silent before GOD.I love you all.GOD bless you all with wisdom,but dont forget,the begining of wisdom is fear to LORD.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION! WONDERFUL. Thank you for answering Pastor John.
Hey, brother. Did you feel like his answer gave you a clearer understanding of the passage? I'd be happy to share any information on reformed theology as well. John Piper is a great teacher on the matter. Professor Ryan Reeves has a UA-cam channel that goes into the history of these types of ideas as well. Here if you need any help, brother. God bless.
@@Stanzi18 what is the name of the channel?!
@@johnnyg7743 Ryan Reeves is the channel name. Very in depth.
I have often wondered why I deserve such compassion this helps me some. I think just reading more Bible and prayer helps too. God gives revelation to those that seek understanding with a pure heart.
God gave me Romans 9 just after my gay brother died in his sins without Christ. Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.
My brother being the older, me being the younger. God wrote this chapter on my heart as I wrestled with my grief for over a year and a half.
You’ll see your brother again, he’s not lost. He just wasn’t called in this the Church age. Every man in his own order(1 Corinthians 15:22-23). He’s just asleep for now.
@@mikebrown9850nope, no second chances. This life is it, and if you haven't placed your trust in Christ as savior when death seizes upon you, you will be found guilty by God. That earns a one way ticket to hell.
"And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,"
- Hebrews 9:27
@@usmcvet0313 That’s correct, everyone will be judged for what they did in this life. And all have earned death. What you’re confused on is the time order. It is appointed men to die once. Everyone dies once, except the very few that will be changed at Christ’s return. Only God’s Church is being judged now. The overwhelming mass of civilization that has ever lived from Adam until Christ return will be judged( not condemned) in the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). That’s when the overwhelming majority of them will hear of Jesus Christ for the 1st time and be given their chance to accept Him as their personal Savior. They will then be given Gods Holy Spirit which will then enable them to have a personal relationship with Him . If God hasn’t specifically called a person to come out of this world, hasn’t repented of their sins and received the gift of God’s Holy Spirit, and placed into the very Body of Christ, this person is not being judged eternally. They will simply die in this life and be resurrected to physical life in the 2nd resurrection. Stop believing men, read your Bible and believe the scriptures.
@@mikebrown9850 I dont think you understood what the throne room Judgment is. That isnt an opportunity to accept or reject Christ. That is the end. Those who didn't put their faith in Christ will be judged by their works. But i also believe that every person has had an opportunity to accept or reject Christ before death. Through preaching, hearing the gospel somewhere, dream etc
@@vladgor4099 God’s perfect master plan for man is pictured by His 7 annual Holy Days given to ancient Israel (by Christ, the God of the OT) through Moses. God added much revelation about the fulfillment of these days through His OT prophets. Christ then spoke in detail about the fulfillment of these days, including the Great White Throne Judgement. Christ then revealed much deeper understanding of the details of which these days picture to His Church. The Old Covenant was physical. The New Covenant is spiritual. The 1st step in God’s master plan to redeem mankind from eternal death is the Passover, but it is not a Holy Day. The Holy Days begin with the Days of Unleavened Bread which picture true Christians utterly putting sin out of their lives. That process is still underway until Christ returns. The fulfillment of the Passover happened at Golgotha. The fulfillment of the next 5 Holy Days after the Days of Unleavened Bread(Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Feast of Tabernacles, and the Last Great Day) can’t happen until Christ’s return. The majority of humankind who have ever lived will be redeemed. Then His plan will really expand beyond our comprehension!
Amen 💖. . the Holy Spirit is "given to those who obey Him"
I though it was giving at conversion
It was given to me in the middle of a suicide attempt..........
Yes, to those who obey him by confessing their sins and repenting. Then they will obey him in the fullest sense.
@@Mymimemei It was, but also in obedience. Because that's what Acts 5:32b reads. Believing God at conversion is also an act of obedience. I take the Bible as all true, and let God show me, which our fallible minds cannot comprehend. It's always trying to figure the Bible out rather than asking God, who had it written, what it means. We don't know all, but if we obey Him in truth, He can show us more truth.
@@rudyferrell1887 It is good that God is so good. Good to see you here, brother.
I have faith. I lose it. I have faith. I lose it. Why can’t I keep my faith reveal yourself unto me lord, please I beg you I will serve you please let me have faith in you.
Listen to Jackie Pullinger, she just got in with it and says she never really had any particular experience s.
Jadapple I have renounced my belief in god
@@rorylondon1752 Don't be silly. Get a grip.
@Barry Midikiner 😂
I once was struggling with this until I heard this message by Renee Roland:
ua-cam.com/video/URl9-L_TjJg/v-deo.html
I was instantly released of that burden!! I hope it will lead you to the same freedom!!
I like the fact that Mr Piper went to GOD in prayer first with the question and not just study to find his on answer to make people feel better about GOD. The Word of GOD is The Word of GOD
He desires and calls all (not some) to repentance. It is up to us to reject or accept His gift of salvation. God just know whom will or will not.
1) "He desires and calls all to repentance." Not quite. Although God's Moral will is for all to achieve salvation (which does not happen), his effectual will, as outlined in Romans 8: 29-30 paints a very different picture; only those who are presdestined are also called. 2) "It's up to us to reject or accept his gift of salvation." Using the aforementioned passage, a predestined believer cannot reject salvation. It is not up to you or me to accept the gift. God's plan does not hindge on our self-induced choice to believe in Christ's safrifice for our sins. When we come to realize that we believe it's because God willed it to happen. In similar fashion, God also wills people to not believe, Romans 9:11, 9:22. "God just know whom will or will not." Your last part seems to imply that that a person God desperately wants to save can reject the calling. The only people who reject the calling are those who are not predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, and it is not their choice to reject anymore than it is a predestined believer's choice to believe.
@@carlhill847 If that’s the case that God chose some for heaven and all others to hell and we have no ability to change that then why did Christ die on the cross in the first place? If this is true (and it is absolutely not true in any way, shape or form) then Christs death is absolutely meaningless!!!
@@carlhill847, if what you say is truth(I don’t believe it to be truth), please stop preaching the gospel to people God DID NOT choose then. Which means you need to stop preaching the gospel, because you cannot know who God chooses or rejects.
You are lying to millions of people with your logic. Also with your(calvinists) logic, the majority of this earths population is doomed with no hope at all. And this is simply not what I get from studying the holy Bible.
I have the real Good News for you my friend………
Jesus died for every single human on this planet and for ALL sins! He is the personal savior to ANYONE who places their faith in Him. Clearly taught throughout scripture. Faith alone through grace alone. It’s that simple.
@@anthonylowder6687 Well said🙏❤
@@carlhill847 I dont think its that black and white. Its a mix of predestination and free will.
God knows the end from the beginning. So it looks like he is choosing us but he knows everyone before we are born who will cry out to him to be our savior. Have a blessed day.
But that's not the way Paul describes it in Romans 9 or Ephesians 1 & 2. God knows them because He chose them & you're right, they will cry out to Him.
Simple, some are obedient, but most aren’t. He has foreknowledge of all things, and moves all things for the sake of those who will love Him above all else.
Thanks for sharing the Word of God
Everybody should watch Leighton flowers and he will explain this beautifully
Leighton Flowers = "analogesis"
I'll listen to Paul instead.
@@Mind_of_MATT as you should, and then you might understand better
i love bible questions.
Really? Here’s a question: what is the blessed mystery of Daniel 12:12??
@@lynb4043 he doesn't like answering questions though
Thank You Pastor John for letting me see the light.I Thank our Lord for saving me and chosen me to be saved .For all the things that I had done out of being naive and foolish.Bless You Pastor John....
God chose all to be saved, but not all chose God.
Thank you GOD our father for choosing me to show your mercy.
Today the joy that has filled my heart is unexplainable.
Thank you so much LORD 😭
Praise The Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Matt 5:7, "Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy."
AMEN.
Yes!!
I love how Jesus says things. So simple and slices right thru our confusion.
I had a hard day and your simple comment of posting this on this video cheered me up a little. Be blessed
@@AnHebrewChild I hope the rest of your week will be better.
I've learned that we can live in love, or not. We can live in forgiveness, or not. We can live, being merciful, or not. Whatever we choose to live in either connects with God or not.
One of the mistakes theologians make is to try to fill in all the spaces between things God has shown us. The spaces (gaps of our understanding) are there, I believe because we are incapable of understanding some things. But we try to fill in those gaps, and in doing so we are always wrong. No offense to reformed theology, but it's a extreme in trying to fill in the gaps. It's important for us to say, "We don't know; God hasn't revealed it to us."
hugs, Mary
Greetings from Brazil, thanks for sharing. 😃
Hi my sister from Brazil!!!!!
I’m so grateful that the Lord saved me❤️
Thank God for your life
How I thank God for visiting me back in the Spring of 1978 and opening my eyes to the reality of Himself and Jesus Christ His Son. EVERYTHING changed at that very moment! I had been trapped by drugs and alcohol--being a professional musician at that time. Jesus became SO real to me and He changed my life by cleaning up the mess I had made of my life and set me on a new path--to dedicate my life to sharing God's amazing grace that is available to anyone who will receive Jesus Christ as their Savior and as their Lord.
Oh the humble joy that floods my soul for my Lord's redemptive love for such as I! 😭
This is a very deep chapter, when you dig into it. Seek God in prayers, for your personal answer from The Almighty. I am thankful for His grace and will always believe in God, Jesus as our living Savior, and in the Holy Ghost.
So, all of those who call on His Name. Repent, and thou shall be saved. Simple.
I Love the Lord Yahweh for choosing us who opened our hearts to him. Ever since I opened my heart to him and surrendered, the Holy Spirit entered me and not even my free will or any other human will can seperate me from God. I am his forever.
@@RtwoDtwo-fy8ps we are all sinners sinning everyday and so your logic is flawed because even in your attempt to keep your works boastful and say you don’t sin makes you a liar the Bible says, all men have come short of the Glory of God so Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and our blessed hope of eternal life
Chosen ones, are chosen ones, before they come to earth. We are the chosen ones. We have a great purpose. 😇🤗❤️
No, the choosen are the Isrealities, and non- else. God only made a covenant with the Israelites by animal sacrifice and no OTHER people.
Note: Jesus did NOT change a damn thing.
@@bernardnickson1783read scripture and believe. Jesus was the final sacrifice for all sin, only to be rejected by the Jews, who still reject Him to this day
@ShamelesslyRed NOT true. Give the book, chapter and verse.
@ShamelesslyRed If rejected , Hebrews 8:8 kjv. I do not see any other Nation of people in this scripture.
@@bernardnickson1783 Romans 11: 16-24
depicts Israel as distinct from the Church: the “natural branches” are the Jews, and the “wild branches” are the Gentiles. The “olive tree” is the collective people of God. The “natural branches” (Jews) are “cut off” the tree for unbelief, and the “wild branches” (believing Gentiles) are grafted in. This has the effect of making the Jews “jealous” and then drawing them to faith in Christ, so they might be “grafted in” again and receive their promised inheritance. The “natural branches” are still distinct from the “wild branches,” so that God’s covenant with His people is literally fulfilled at the summation of time when the full number of Gentiles are brought in.
In Romans 9:3, Paul is in deep sorrow for his Jewish kinsmen for the very reason of the Jews rejection of the Messiah; ie., their "cutting off" from the true vine.
There will be a remnant that's restored, so there's good news.
This has been explained so beautifully and as you spoke Pastor John I felt the Love and the compassion of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ♥Thank you Father that your ways are not our ways but your ways and reasoning are prefect♥Glory to your name!♥
Because we choose life with God or without God. That's our free will. God is here and it is our free will to obey or disobey Him. 🙏
Nope
Thank you so much for this video!
It's a dangerous thing to teach condemnation without representation. Oh what damage that has been done by man's mishandling of God's Word. The Church was never intended to be segregated by speculative doctrines.
Some people believe because they are saved and born again they can say anything...forgetting that whatever they have now was not by their own works bit Gods grace. The average heart of a human is wicked and selfish.
It seems to me that Calvinism is a cop out
when it hurts so bad to see a loved one die not knowing the Lord.
God DOES NOT predestine people for hell. Some choose hell.
I would caution you to study further. God is Sovereign. That means he makes the call. As difficult as this is to absorb it helps to locate scripture and contextually wrestle with it. I strongly recommend you search for John MacArthur sermon on Election. It’s about an hour but rich and he presents the Bible’s clear positions around this. I read many of these for years and it never registered. Who am I? He is the potter.
@@Matt-tj9pi I don't believe in the Calvin club. I believe that Christ died for all humans. I study my bible every day. I see many verses that can be twisted to mean whatever you want. I see Calvinism as elitism. Sorry, you won't change my mind.
I have free will ordained by a sovereign God.
God bless you.
Amen.
@@Matt-tj9pi So how do you fit that in with ....... Ro 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. and .... And From our Lord Himself .... Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!
@@fingerzfrienemy2226 that's fine. I look at time travel. People only act the way they act, if you could go back in time and observe it again, you would see the exact same events play out again. Going back in time to watch things wouldn't result in things happening differently, unless you interfered with them.
Kinda points towards a sovereign outcome
Such a happy little tune at the beginner. Then this.
Look at how many choose to walk with GOD and not because of the church, fellowship, pride or money from the church. But during tribulation and hard times choose to walk with GOD when it is hard. Few and far between.
Your interpretation is exactly in line with the spirit of the living God and it is exactly correct in truth and as you know this you know there’s much more peace be with you come Lord🍷🍞 amen
This is Calvinist heresy! To understand Romans 9 go to this link: www.madisonwilloughby.com/individual-predestination-rom-9.html God loves you and DESIRES that you CHOOSE Him!
I've had spiritual battles ALL MY LIFE. I've backslid and back over and over and I dont deserve this calling, He always picks me up from my lowest point and I've always wondered why He chose to save me, His unfaithful servant, but does not seem to save the others? Now I know the answer. Because He got assignments for you. Through you, He wants to give some people a chance at repentance and only you can get through to them. He also wants to teach you to identify adversity and how to overcome it.
I feel the same.
God is Sovereign. Thank you Jesus for saving my soul.
I feel strongly that God and Jesus Christ not only give everyone the gift of freewill but those who have a good heart and do their best(against all odds) to be a good person are chosen for more.
Run from Calvanism! Run!!!
continue being vessels of mercy ppl :) God Bless!
I like this channel. It doesn’t pretend to make sense, it exists just to make Christians feel good. There should be a place in the world for that.
It is by grace alone that any are chosen. None are worthy.
I respectfully disagree on how the specific context of Romans 9 is presented, and its interpretation.
In any case, as to salvation (as distinguished from God's appointed role for every individual), 1 Timothy 2:3-6 tells us clearly that God wants all people to be saved.
God's sovereign will to choose one's role in His plans and purposes (Romans 9) is not the same as God's sovereign will that all people be saved (1 Timothy 2).
I do understand what you are saying, therefore, I would like to respectfully point out the truth. Not everyone is saved. Indeed God wants all people to be saved because of His loving nature, yet it is evident that not everyone is saved since it is of God's Righteousness to judge those who rejected the Way of Salvation that He Himself provided.
@@Mimu1983 Exactly, though God wants all people to be saved (1 Tim. 2), not everyone will be saved (Matt. 7:21, John 3:18 etc). HOWEVER, the Bible does not clearly and categorically state the actual interplay between God's sovereign will and man's choice on accepting or rejecting the Lord Jesus.
At this point in time, we know only in part (1 Cor. 13).
Thus, we cannot categorically jump into man-made doctrines such as Calvinism or Predestination. I would humbly say that as of now I cannot yet explain the specifics of how man chooses to accept or reject Jesus, amidst God's sovereign will, authority and purpose; rather than strain or stretch God's Word.
@@_p_5764 I understand the point you try to make. However, though the Scripture does not explicitly state about the interplay between the sovereignty of God and the freewill of man in making choices, we can see how would saved people choose and what the lost people would do. Note that the saving faith is gift from God - it would be nothing short of the grace of God that will convert a person. For the lost, they are darkened in their understanding and stubborn by their nature - in their freest of freewilled choice they reject Jesus Christ.
Predestination is in the Scripture; it is not a man-made idea. Calvinism, on the other hands, is NOT the truth per se but it is of most accurate 'observation' of the Scripture. I do not think 'man-made' description is best suited here.
@@Mimu1983 "Calvinism" or "Predestination" insofar as it pertains to the eternal "destiny", or APPOINTED salvation or damnation of a specific individual is unbiblical and not supported by scripture. It's a man-made interpretation that is contradicted by:
1 Timothy 2:3-6
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who WANTS ALL PEOPLE TO BE SAVED and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom FOR ALL PEOPLE. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared that OFFERS SALVATION TO ALL PEOPLE .
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE to perish, but EVERYONE TO COME TO REPENTANCE.
Ezekiel 18:23
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
@@_p_5764 Perhaps those are the most misunderstood verses in critiquing 'Calvinism'. The simple reality is this - not everyone is saved. Even now, there are people screaming curses to God and going to hell. Yes, God is love. In His love, He wants all people to be saved. Jesus Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all people, and Salvation offered to all people - yet people reject Him and mock anyone who accepts Him. Therefore, they shall face the full wrath of God who is Righteous. God, in His love, does not want anyone to perish indeed, but very few come to repentance - thus they shall be sent to hell by God, in His righteousness.
Salvation is for ANYONE who comes to Christ Jesus and believes, not for EVERYONE. I think I have been using this analogy too much but here it goes; God gave the Salvation freely and the faith is indeed the gift from God - but God did not institute some sort of social welfare program that everyone gets the benefit.
I cannot contradict the Scripture. Please read the first Chapter of the Book of Ephesians. I cannot deny the reality either. People are dying and going to hell.
God is so good and merciful. He knows our hearts. He knows who will be willing to pick up their cross and follow Jesus and who will not. Ppl who aren't willing, HE said HE will leave them to their repribated minds.
Yepp...while you watch them born in hell for billions of yeard with a happy face. You seem to forget it is luck that got you were you are nkow.
Matthew 22:8-12 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
This parable shows an element of human choice in answering God's call.
Yeah, there’s no rule that says God has to give everyone mercy, (or anyone mercy for that matter) but it still makes me feel kinda dirty that people just like me will never have a chance at salvation when I had so many.
You are not done as of this post. Seek him while he may be found...
Music lover I’ve been seeking him and nada. I think I have the misfortune of being non elected with a knowledge of Christ
@@Mymimemei are you praying, studying the bible, and applying his word? We also have to do alot of self examination and reflection.
He had mercy on everyone when he sent his son to die on the cross for everyone
I felt that way too attempted to turn my life over to God several times and failed. Then recently I decided to put aside any thoughts, opinions, beliefs, or anything I'd ever been taught and read the bible for myself. Everything is totally different this time. Start with the words of Christ. Hunger and thirst after his words. We have to do our part as well
John 3:16. We all have a free will to choose Christianity or not to obey His principles or not. Our obedience to God gives us blessings. God's word says u honor me the and I will honor you.
It's about free will.
With a good Biblical concordance
look up to words:
Free, freedom, liberty, obey, door, choose, follow, agreement, covenant, believe, spiritually clean.
Psalms 103 especially vs 13.
Scripture if full of the love of God if only we will open our life and let Him be our redeemer, leader, guide, friend.
I believe the entire Bible. But I am in no way a pagan christian. Religion is the work of the devil. Come out of her my people that you may not partake in her sins.
Nobody is entirely free, except God.
In my ultimate struggle with my brother's complete rejection of God on his death bed, God gave me Rom. 9: 22-23. Election.
WE Must on our knees & repent of our sins every day... CRY out for mercy and Grace Love the God with all the heart ALL thy SOUL and all the mind 🙏
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy God does as he pleases
I disagree, but thank God it is not by doctrine we are saved... either way. Brother and sisters continue the good work of our Lord.
EXACTLY!🕇
Good works were prepared in advance by the Holy Spirit that we walk in them(Epesians 2:8-10)
However these works don't give one the salvation,but inheritance, possessions, crowns, glory reward,award in the heavenly kingdom. (1Cor.3:10-15;Luke 19:12-26;Revelation 14:13; 19:6-9;Matthew 25:31-36;Luke 14:12-15;Luke 12:32,33,34; 1Cor9:24-27;Colossians 3:23-25)
I disagree as well! Try listening to Andrew Wommack break this passage down. It's brilliant!
@@crispblox3000 Why don't you agree yet Scriptures teach so?
David Ochieng very well said. So few people understand this concept...
Some are genuinely sincere and walk in righteousness with God. Some, are lukewarm and are indecisive about God and walk in the flesh and worship idols.
Has anybody been born again and actually ended up being driven to work harder?
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
[Prov:16:4]
In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
[Lk:10:21]
Well done. Scripture is sufficient to study scripture. Scripture alone speaks authoritatively, and it speaks to all believers, independently of church leaders and councils, human interpreters and so-called spokesmen for God.
William Cornelius : amen
Look up the day of evil in scripture. It's only mentioned 2 other times. In Jeremiah 17:17 and 17:18 there is explains what the day of evil is.
The day of evil clearly talks about a temple destruction. Those prosecuting Jeremiah are God chosen ppl, the ppl of Judea. For rebelling against God they are getting the double destruction
Jeremiah 17:1-4 the ppl of Judea the warning they will serve their enemies because they have kindled Gods anger with their behaviour. We know the rest of the story that the ppl of Judea didn't repent. They will be serving their enemy after Nebuchadnezzer wipes them out. The wicked mention in proverbs 16:4 is Nebuchadnezzer. The Bible does not contradict. Also the Bible is it's own dictionary
@@susiedyck4914 God calls Nebuchadnezzar “my servant” three times in the book of Jeremiah (Jeremiah 25:9; 27:6; 43:10). He's saved and not wicked
thank you God for choosing me and giving me mercy and love also far healing my broken heart ❤️🌌🌠🎇
God chooses all.
PLEASE pray for me my friends that I do not get a "holier-than-thou" attitude now that I have been born again. Pray for me!!! I HATE my pride and ego and it makes me sick! I do NOT deserve GOD but he elected me anyways!!!!
People like you are rare. Very rare. God bless you.
@@defcon1africa676 I love you!!
Calvinism teaches no one can call on the Lord, because they are so depraved, they have no ability to. So given that teaching, how you going to preach the gospel to anyone, if they are so dead they can't hear? You got saved because you trusted in God, in the gospel.
The calvinists will tell you that is impossible.
Read the scripture below.
Matthew 23:13
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
Is Jesus speaking the truth or are the calvinists? You should decide who you are going to start trusting. You listen to men and their doctrines, they will indoctrinate you and that is not wise.
Jesus clearly says that they have an option to choose whether to enter, just because God says he chooses, means many call on him, but some simply do not really do it with a sincere heart. He chooses those with a sincere heart. He doesn't just randomly select unbelievers, that's not only not scriptual, but makes no common sense.
You got saved because you trusted in the Lord and believed. Go out and learn God's word, so you can preach the good news. The good news is Jesus died for everyone and everyone can look up and see Gods grace in Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins. If you become a calvinist you will have a lot of trouble doing that, because they don't believe Jesus died for everybody.
So how does this line up with an older video John posted concerning being completely dead in our trespasses, totally unable to make ourselves believe and be raised to new life anymore than a dead corpse can raise itself to life? We are commanded to believe. We are responsible to believe but we cannot make ourselves believe. It's a gift of God.
I ask myself all the time.