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I’m ok with getting rid of EV credits if the law also eliminates all subsidies and tax relief for oil and gas companies.
So you're okay with prices literally rising on every good by multiples, since transportation would become unaffordable? You must be a millionaire or a doomsday pepper.
@@leok7193 Humm.. yeah that would be bad. We also have billions in EV production investments so better keep both.
@@leok7193 A fair playing field for all technoliges and let the best one win. ICE cars would be dead within months and EV sales would be through the roof as everyone looks for cheaper forms of transportation. Or is the claim of end government subsides only applicable to what certain elements of society dont want to support.
@@leok7193 it would spread the ACTUAL cost across those who actually use the products rather than Government picking the winners via subsidies.
@@Hotspur37 define best? Because if we don't invest in EV, dead dinosaurs will run out, not to mention climate change.
Railroad was an investment, roads were an investment, airports are too. Without investment and picking next technology to go forward, we'd still be riding horseback. If you understand economics, you know there's no level playing field nor should there be one if you actually want progress.
Darn, was hoping Ryan was talking about Juniper.
Haha, Tesla Said it ain't coming out till 2025. You can expect news on that vehicle late 2024
Need a Model Y lifted 007 Edition with an air suspension and a truck bed.
He’s not???
All of these aftermarket software upgrades should be added to the configurator, such as range extenders and acceleration boosts, so potential buyers have all the information necessary to make an informed decision appropriate to their needs, price targets, and future upgrade desires. People simply do not want to feel nickeled and dimed by arbitrary aftermarket software upgrades found after purchasing the vehicle.
They are factory, not aftermarket options.
Just saw a Quicksilver Model Y here in the UK, but the car was on Netherlands plates. Looked fantastic.
Do hope they bring the RWD long range model to the UK next year, would suit me perfectly.
Thanks Ryan.
Great news. Looking forward for more.
LR RWD Model Y qualifying for the tax credit makes it very compelling for those looking at RWD Model 3 because it has more room, more range, and better charging for about $1k less after tax credit. This assumes that the consumer is looking at cost and not 100% committed to a sedan over the shape of the Y
And now we know why the RWD MY has better charging than the RWD M3.
*I did not do any homework on this… just makes sense that if you’re only charging up to 80% then it can get there faster than the last 20%.
Like mentioned in the video, if I were a RWD MY owner, I’d be happy knowing I can ‘safely’ charge to 100% more often without paying for the upgrade.
Def a compelling price with the tax credit, especially with it coming off the invoice, what with all the high loan rates. (Grapevine told me the Fed just RAISED the rates).
More confusing and erratic pricing on the Y, and prior buyers feeling like they got an inferior product.
Prior buyers have a better vehicle than they purchased via Tesla's over-the-air software updates.
That's what it is like buying a tesla.
Nah. Compared to every legacy brand, Tesla's pricing is uber simple and transparent.
Tesla buyers got what they paid for. The cars are getting better and cheaper over time, that’s normal. EVs do it faster than normal cars so I don’t think it’s necessary for Tesla owners to feel like they should have waited. If you’re always waiting for the best technology, you’ll be waiting forever when you could be enjoying your car.
First adopters take a chance TO WARNING TO ALL CONSUMERS TESLA VEHICLES GET BETTER WITH AGE “ over th air “
This is amazing news thanks Ryan! Almost started regretting not just springing for the LR MY but this makes my RWD purchase feel 10x better. Wishing they’ll just provide the unlock for free but if it will be a charge at least I have the option to.
.99% apr up to 72 months on model y until end of May. With the $7500 rebate at closing on an already discounted car from inventory that was priced at $66,000 during Covid is a no brainer! Now is the time for us that waited
Here in Colorado we get another 5k off too. 🤙🏻
You work your butt off. Hats off to you.
Seeing a lot of Model 3 Highlands on the morning commute so sales must be doing well despite loss of tax credit. So glad I jumped in end of December.
I’ve been involved in murders and layoffs and the key thing is when you’re laying things off to make sure there’s a transition plan sometimes people have to leave, but you have to know where it’s going to fire your entire supercharger team without having a transition is bonkers the fact that they had to send out an email saying we’re working on figuring out who the points of contact are and we’d like some patients while we violate the contract we had with you is just silly. Tesla‘s gonna be in court with a lot of these manufactures regarding the discussion of the transition to their NACS adapter and the lack of support on Tesla side.
As a Tesla owner I agree we need to get rid of the EV incentives. It will help lower the prices in the future
I agree with that bill, the government shouldn't artificially susbsidize EVs and force companies to lost billions making EVs to make them competitive. Customer demand AKA the market should decide what cars win out
Well, the fossil fuel industry is massively supported by government subsidies and tax breaks. Eliminate those, too, then watch gas prices skyrocket and we'll have a level playing field. Besides that, the transition to EVs is a necessary measure to reduce the effects of the climate crisis. We have to substantially reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. Promoting EV adoption is exactly what the government should be doing.
Correct me if I'm wrong but's that a shitty thing to do.
If a person was buying a RWD Model Y for the belief that the LFP battery it was supposed to have would do better in the long run in terms of degradation, then how can Tesla just be like "lol bro you still have a nickel based battery but we just locked the range on it."
That is crazy if this passes without lawsuits.
No one is buying cars right now. Interest rates are too high, layoffs, rent and homes are expensive. Tesla lot in Vallejo California is packed with Tesla. People are money stressed. Something has to give.
Exactly. Once interest rates come back down to last year's level then the sales will boom.
Bidenomics wohoooo
Jimmy Carter 2.0 coming soon.
No new cars sales are still growing but if look at the data it has shifted to smaller more affordable cars and away from large trucks and SUVs.
Exactly. EVeryone is “blaming Elon,” when times - and the economy, and politics - are just plain scary.
RWD with all season tires and snowsocks was more than enough climbing local mountain w/ snowstorm R2 in California. worked perfectly fine.
Get rid of the subsidy...or correct it on a sliding scale. It is stupid that a $298,000 income qualifies while a $300,000 does not.
Wondering what this means for Jupiter mileage???
How do i know if my Model Y got the increase in miles?? Mine was the 279 range model
Ryan for us purchase will the model y refresh have an LFP battery or possibly the new Catl battery architecture? Could you please clarify time frame likely to wait for such superior battery that is not now available ok?
Was waiting on this video. Would love to know if this means that you can now technically charge the standard rwd model y to 100% without seeing the expected degradation.
My 2006 BMW 5 series was this silver color. It's not really a big deal but another choice is good.
Bot is walking through an empty office. All the human employees have been laid off.
So have all the other boys…
Not laid off... Terminated.
@@MikeHongistohaha
Yeah.... trying to find the best spot to call 'dibs'...
Yehehe snort .. dats da funniest sht I read all week
Basically it means if you have model y standard range, you already hauling a long range battery, so feels like if you charge to 100% without an upgrade, whole battery pack is realistically charging to 81 %
No, locked out capacity is at the bottom of the charge, so 100% charge is to the full, but your discharge is limited by software where 0% is actually still 20% in the battery. Imagine running out of charge, stuck on the side of the road, while your tank still has 20% but you need to pay to access it.
@@CleanPowerAutoyou dont know that.
Does anyone know if the Model 3 Performance is still elegible for Federal tax credit if leased? I can't seems to see it in the website.
Branden Flasch on his UA-cam channel noticed this on a locked 2024 RWD as it was charging much better than any other RWD, you could keep it as is as your battery will outlast a unlocked version utilising full pack, and still get phenomenal charging when road tripping and save the $1500 or $2K!
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And it'd never lose range after 10 years then since there is 20% buffer?
It shouldn't be a bonus. There's already a feature to limit charging to a %. Hey, we can just cut the range to 100 miles and pretend there's no battery degradation and it'll charge to 1/3rd of actual capacity even faster!
You haven't seen boston dynamics robot? While tesla bot is walking, boston bots are doing back flips.
The dancing robots in Those videos are being remotely controlled and programmed. Only ones where they are using AI are when it is picking up boxes and getting up after getting knocked down. You know the simple. Have you heard of that company doing anything lately other than the robot dog?
Years back it flipped. They still haven't made a useful robot for sale. Bezos tends to take an eternal view when it comes to industrial development.
Th advantage of is what?
I wonder if the model 3 is software locked as well i havent lost much range i would pay for more miles
thanks ryan👍i'm unsure of what's going to happen in the NACS space however I think that Tesla is going to continue to be a big player. It seems like they are restructuring operations and that they may take a new approach to building and managing charging infrastructure. Just because the supercharging team that existed is gone doesn't necessarily mean that they are stepping out of the space.
I have ordered a RWD Model Y on/4/29 the VIN has been assigned on 5/4/2024. Is there a way to check what model will be shipped to me? Thanks 🙏
How is no one talking about the possibility for Tesla to spin off / sell their super charger network. It is literally the most valuable EV asset in the NA market (probably world) at this moment. It would take some of the brand value away from Tesla for sure, but would be a massive cash influx. We are talking tens to hundreds of billions of dollars. If you truly believe automation / robo taxi is the future, then major investment is likely needed, and SuperCharger network is a huge Capex sponge. Axing a huge % of workforce 3-6 months before spinning off is a common practice. It makes your P&L very attractive to potential buyers (low cost, high revenue) even if you are hurting your long term capability.
Brilliant!❤
So they spin off a business unit with no employees? That makes zero sense as it means any buyer would offer a much reduced price.
@@tatata1543 When your business is cashflowing real estate, it makes perfect sense. (Any company with ability to move into this type of space will likely have many of these human assets already) You are thinking of the business as it has been, not what it can be. Building a business is entirely different from running a business long term.
Look at Elon's history, great a building companies and innovating, but he doesn't have the "stable growth" gene. He builds and then ducks out.
I doubt that's his plan, but if it is, it wasn't well though-out. You do a "fat-trimming" layoff of maybe 10% to make the division more attractive to potential buyers. What he did was get rid of everybody who had anything to do with its success. Those Superchargers didn't plant themselves in the ground. This is a business - creating, operating, maintaining, and expanding an EV charging network - that literally no one has been successful at but Tesla, and he flushed its leadership and all its institutional knowledge down the toilet. It is worth a heck of a lot LESS money today than it was two weeks ago.
I think he did it in a fit of pique as a warning to the rest of the company to toe the line, and in so doing he's thrown a huge roadblock in the path of EV adoption in the United States. Tesla's board needs to push him out before he destroys the company.
@@Solar750 it’s a fantasy , ain’t happening.
There are some companies I will never trust
1) KIA
2) Bank of America
3) Wells Fargo
Why KIA? Just curious as the EV9 has gotten great reviews
@@Lendingyourlight They wanted to sell a subscription for heated seats. To me, this is beyond greedy and I simply cannot, in good conscience, ever trust a company like that again.
@@TheMrmoc7wow that’s terrible thank you for sharing
@@TheMrmoc7I was torn between Tesla Y and Kia EV9 but I would never pay for those options. That’s crazy
As for the Supercharger network, the USG is subsidizing many other charger companies, and getting the best sites is something Tesla had a 5 year head start on, now getting expensive. All those new chargers will have NACS.
does this mean if i keep my rwd as is and don’t upgrade the battery software i can charge to 260 miles @ 100% and not have any issues?
Technically yes as your not using all 100% of the battery
@@javi3371 so for example if there are 100 cells, is it software locked to use 80% of each cell, or is it software locked so that 80 complete cells are in use and 20 of the other remaining complete cells are software locked?
@@bimmerM3it’s 80 percent of ALL cells. It does not lock out individual cells. The BMS spreads the charge across all cells evenly.
Wonder if BMS knows your 100% is really 80%, so it'll charge to 100% faster.
@@Trust_but_Verifywhat is BMS?
I have been looking into EVs and weighing the costs and benefits of switching from a gasoline car.
This particular video brings to my mind the concept of my car being "software locked." I know that gasoline engines have been running on software for a while now, but the idea that the car manufacturer can tweak with my car's performance remotely without my knowledge or consent sounds... very dangerous.
Geez, stop announcing the quicksilver color. That is a minor issue. otherwise, your videos are great.
Duct tape on side of Tesla hater bus is silver says “ not a model Y
If range actually was the biggest concern, why not FWD?
For me the car is an appliance like refrigirator, car should start every time, has maximum range, charge fast and have a reasonable price. I am not excited to play with touchscreen all the time when I am driving.
Ryan, I have a quick question when I got my Model Y Prof. in June 28, 2023 Tesla was advertised 303 miles and a few months ago they downgraded it to 275 miles range. And I paid $54,000.00. I should not have to paid for an upgraded range for $1200.00 to $2000.00 extra for more range. When I already paid over $54,000 for 303 miles. What are your thoughts.
As Ryan said, the EPA changed their testing procedures to better reflect real world driving. That is what you saw.
You can gain range by downsize to 18 inch wheels.
Then i should get a Check for the diffence from tesla credited back to me.
The robot team will be layed off without warning
Not when robots build robots
Can we just leave superchargers exclusive to Tesla drivers?? It’s already pretty packed ngl.
I agree, bc I'm like why is your Kia here!
Massive own goal by Tesla. Made even more own-goaly by slowing the expansion of the network.
I thought the battery pack in the 'standard range' was LFP 4680 cells, why wouldn't they charge to 100% with the battery unlock?
exactly
Lfp and 4680 are not the same chemistry at all. The 100% charging is available for LFP regardless of how but the battery capacity is the difference is Tesla will not allow you to access some of the batteries.
As far as EV credits, the United States fossil fuel subsidies are estimated from $20 to $50Billion a year in subsidies, the US EV tax credits does not even rate on the rebate charts for Government budgets, mere coffee money if even that!
Why not make front wheel drive? We drive front wheel vehicles in snow and they drive great. Tesla software makes the rear wheel acceptable for snow but people still have the perception that for snow areas it has to be front or all wheel drive. They will sell more cars if front wheel drive. The rear wheel performance feel is not needed for most people that just want a commuter car.
With respect to the reorganization of the Supercharger team and network, remember the legacy auto makers decided to scale back on their production of EV’s after requesting access to the network. So if market dynamics change one should change one’s strategy. The SC decision makes sense on that level alone.
When is Tesla going to offer audio upgrade for standard range model 3? Seems like an easy way to bring in more revenue.
so wait, only the standard range really hast he long range battery pack? How about the Performance? Just got mine 8 weeks ago, dont need the additional range for a single trip, but would be nice if I have the pack and my 100% is REALLY only 80%.
Chargin 80% is 100% anything beyond is in th red!!
@@sparkysho-ze7nm not if the battery is already secretly over built by Telsa, missed my question bro, but thanks for the obvious
Wonder if it includes the original 2021 Model Y's sold? Doesnt sound like it
I'm waiting for them to update the App to let you know when you have a flat tire for *19 hours*. B4 running out at night and realizing you're not going anyplace! If the touch screen has a giant red 'Warning' immediately when opening the door, they should figure out how to notify the driver : (
6:30 I wonder if Tesla will offer this option. The lower range and Charge it to 100% or $2,000 more for the longer range but charge at 80%
I want to see how this plays out and what Tesla will do with their current customers who don't decide to do the upgrade. What can they daily charge to?
When they have a "600 mile" range I'll buy one (since we know the "given number" is never even close to accurate under "real life" conditions...) i.e. things like extra passengers, cargo, towing, hot weather, cold weather, aging, etc...
In china, Tesla offers 554km range RWD and 668km range AWD which is different from the US.
Model Y is still way too expensive, base price needs to go down below 40K, before the $7500 dollar tax credit, ideally, the all-in price should be about 32K, because once you add in the sales tax, and all the fees from dealer & state, price should not be any more than 35K, that's how Tesla will sell more of them. And they really need to stop nickeling and diming for colors, both interior and exterior.
GV 70 is ICE?
Wondering if the new Long Range RWD Model Y has any other spec downgrades, such as a less impressive sound system, fewer cameras, or software functionalities. Can't find this info on the Tesla website, does anyone know more?
Why would they do that? they just added a bigger battery
I'd get it if it had vented seats
I feel like it’s a rip off telling customers that if you want the extra range you have to pay more money for a car you already own. I used to love Tesla but they have been steadily disappointing me since last year. I may have to go back to Toyota.
So you don't think people should pay more for a long range as compared to a standard range? But you wouldn't complain if they did a standard range and long range single motor from the factory, so your point is meaningless...
@@bullittuk wow, you must be a masochist to defend Tesla so hard. They spank you and you say "may I have another?"
The problem is Tesla promised that the car you buy will only get better over time with software and lately it's been the opposite. They literally started penny pinching improvements that don't cost them anything.
You have no problem paying for extra food at a restaurant, extra features at a gym, extra items at the grocery store, extra features on the iPhone, but you don’t want to pay for extra range on an electric vehicle and assume it should be given for free?
Ok. You should get a Toyota then.
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It is a ripoff.
@@goldokoeka8591 oh and if my gym decides to charge me extra, I'll switch gyms too, but you better not ask me to keep paying for the old one so new members can keep getting discounts to join
I am not from the USA, but cutting tax credits would not be bad at all if at the same time, the US government would cut all subsidies to the fossil fuel industry (last year a total of 7 Trillion dollars) If that happened, fuel for ice cars would multiply in costs, making EV's even more economical.
Never going to happen. It would cripple the economy and lead to a loss of the election as well. The system sucks.
fuel would rise, but so will everything else. your milk that was delivered to the store in a ICE Truck for the last mile will now cost more too
So it's unlikely that the Elite Vehicle Act will pass (the newly introduced bill to eliminate the $7,500 credit)? Is that what others would guess too?
Just when I needed a car, so I will definitely buy this one performance maybe, although I'm only buying tesla because of the autopilot, If other companies had something like that I would go with them. Thanks
11:00) staff cuts: Wonder if Rebecca Tinucci founds her own Supercharger network?
The assembly line already has the ability to put those batteries in the box, and can do it at superhuman speeds… the robot is a huge step backwards and it’s still being controlled by the human. I don’t get it …
Zero to 60 in 4.8 vs 6.6 seconds is a big deal to many(LR vs SR). That extra instant torque is what makes driving the tesla FUN!!
I've done a number of test drives including performance versions, and the only way to call Tesla fun is if you've never driven a fun ICE car.
It's not just me, watch EVERY review on UA-cam by Tesla handpicked journalists for model 3 performance.
Agree
@@leok7193 I've had 3 BMWs and a Benz, all were fun but didn't offer the instant torque, quietness with one pedal driving . I just love the MY LR.
@@minimalist0000 depends on the model, I suppose. I most recently had F82 M4 tuned and unturned, and while I didn't time it, my butt told me it was quicker than M3P, but really the joy of sports cars is not even flat out acceleration.
Comes down to control and extract the best performance from your car (people love power-sapped Miatas for a reason). Tesla gives you what it thinks it should, but it's distilled. I've driven base Mercedes and BMW as loaners and would compare them closer to Tesla in terms of sports car enjoyment, with less power.
Just sold my 2022 Model 3 and bought the Electrified GV70. While I miss some Tesla features, in my opinion it’s night and day between the two (notwithstanding a lot less range on the GV70). Between the price fluctuations and erratic Elon, I don’t know that I’d ever go back to a Tesla and sure there are others that feel the same way I do.
awd is the only way to go
The supercharger layoff makes no sense to award the licenses to companies build them. This is lessening the vertical integration that Tesla was forced to do back in the last recession.
The cash for clunkers wasn't a bailout for the automobile companies. It was a bailout for the oil companies too. It kept alive companies that couldn't or wouldn't make efficient cars to hedge against high fuel prices.
When this model Y gets 500 miles, then I buy one.
musk needs to get a designer to design a nice front of the new car.
In Tesla became a supplier of Super Chargers to BP and other companies. Now that their connector is a standard and they are a supplier to others building out charger networks, does it make sense for Tesla to scale back their build out as others start deploying their networks using Super Charger hardware? Remember, Elon thinks far ahead of the game.
So... he fired the profit-making Supercharger team but kept this joke?
Board, dump Elon. He's distracting the company.
Aren’t the RWD Model Y’s have LFP batteries? your able to charge to full?
Nope
Unlocking the extra 40-60mi should be beneficial for situation (1) and (2), but I agree would not make sense for case (3). ...(1) If STD range owners are CURRENTLY charging to 80% of their 260 range, then charging to 80% of 320 is more daily range. (2) If they are charging to 100% of 260 now (bc its LFP battery) then 100% of 320 is more daily range. (3) BUT If they were told to charge to "100%" now, but its not LFP and turns out the "100%" is not the whole battery due to SW LOCK... then buying 320mi and being told to drop to 80% would not give more daily range.
I would think that Tesla's backing off the Supercharger market would create a giant opportunity for some other companies.
Manufacturing and installation remain intact The future builds will continue.
Considering buying a Tesla but have one genuine concern. Does anyone know if the EMF in the car is detrimental to health ? Makes me a little apprehensive. I spend a lot of time in my car.
Where is the midnight cherry for the us!!
We need more 400 mile range standard
yes. I wont buy an EV till its 25000 and 400 miles range or at least 350 mile range or I will stick with gas for life
350 is more realistic and the days of a 25k car from dealerships new ready coming to an end. I just got my model y performance in march and it’s been nice but that’s only due to me having charging at home and work but I know everyone doesn’t have that luxury.
@@lupusrexstudio7327 I have a garage and can charge at home but till its 350 miles and 25K i am going to stick with my gas car. its toyota carolla so it will last forever lol
@@none23517I’ve had my Hondas for the last 15 years. And I just got my 2018 Model S for under $23k with the tax incentive using no money down for me. And for a 6 year old a Tesla, it has saved me a ton with just gas alone plug the perk of giving what would’ve been an expensive daily driver upgrade experience for far far less. I still got 1.8 years left in the warranty with unlimited miles which any vehicle before 2020 still qualifies. And honestly I feel bad as to not driving my accord anymore even tho nothing is wrong with it at 225k miles. But with my home charger, it just don’t want to spend more money on gas with these current prices. 3500 miles and still haven’t spent more than $88 in maintence/fuel related expenses.
@@none23517 yeah those last a life time. Tesla should be releasing a 25k model but it definitely won’t be 350 miles.
Tesla lowered interest rates on model Y to .9% over 6 years. This and new range is fatastic.
Optimus was asked for a comment but turns out they cut off it's access at 2AM and quietly laid it off.
I think the price point of the RWD tesla is to high. For an extra $3K I can get awd basically same range, fog lights, more speakers plus subwoofer.
That’s the point
I neither need nor want nor wish to pay for an SUV of any description. I'm waiting for the M3 hatch or, even better, a cyberhatch compact. So, no, I really don't care what Tesla does with the range of the MY.
Robot walks like it needs to take a poop.
Wait until the whole tesla lineup is made into 48 volt
Hasn't FSD been promised for years? Why are they focusing on the robot rather than FSD?
Because in years ahead FSD will stil have been promised for years.
I've owned several Hondas, but I'm done with them. I have to travel a lot, and I rent a lot of cars. With few exceptions, Honda's creature features seem lacking compared to other makes. If all you want in a car is point A to point B, Honda is a very reliable vehicle. If you want features as well as reliability, don't go with Honda.
A lot of empty desks in the office where the robot was walking around. 😢
My sales guy promised me the new Model Y wouldn’t be released this year lol
He can put it in writing that they will buy back the old Model Y.
Less charging infrastructure reduces EV adoption rate.
With the money saved, Tesla buys Revel haha
Or, after meeting with China. The deal for Tesla to sell FSD in China is to let China into the charging market in US or some sorts. Reason why Elon is sabotaging the Superchargers.
IDK, just speculations esp w all the events that's been happening
Elon is stopping charger new charger locations but its adding/renewing more chargers in each location.
Tariffs can place the American EV on a completive edge over the exploding BYD ev's
I don't think this new RWD Long Range Model Y is new at all. It looks to me like they just rebadged the SR Model Y and unlocked the battery which is the same as the LR's battery.
Motivated by the oil industry?
Hyundai ioniq 5 N sends praises to Tesla...😂
Does this mean if I charge my 2024 RWD to 95%, I’ll actually be less than 80%? My question is: If I’m charged to 250 miles, will regenerative braking work?
Now we know charging to 100% on the 2024 RWD M3 is really just charging to the cap of 80%.
The 95% being the same as 80% of unlocked car seems close. The regen question is interesting. It would probably depend weather battery pack management software is using the percentage you see. You should try it and report back.
And if you double the driving range then then charging time is also doubled, a lot of boloney for me
That's not how charging curves work.
👍👍😎✌️🤟 Hold the model “Y”! WTF, Elon!
If someone gets the 320 mile Model Y, what is real world mileage achieved between Spokane and Seattle?
For Bill Gates in his 996, about 9 mpg…