Im a piano teacher and Im the same opinion like you. These movement from the wrists should be the very first thing a beginner has to learn. It's one of the most important technique to start with. To all beginners: Please take your time to learn the flexible movement from the wrist, don't be stiff and let your wrist feel free. Don't rush to the next big piece in the beginning. Learn the Movement on very easy pieces!
Even agreeing with almost everything you said, I'll give you a point of view of a beginner. Back when I was 7-ish I saw that iconic Tom & Jerry episode and I decided that my dream was to play Hungarian Rhapsody nº2 just like Tom did, so my mom put me in a piano class. My teacher kept telling me what I call "etiquette rules", so the only thing I can remember is her telling to keep my back straight and that I should imagine an egg between the palm of my hand and the piano keys and that I should never "break this egg". Even after 20+ years, all I can remember is me doing the C Major scale up and down with both hands and hearing she saying..."broke the egg, from the start", "broke again, from the top", "straight your back, again". Today I understand why proper technique is important from the beginning, but everyone should first feel like they're making music so the practice is fun and enjoyable and not another set of rules that you HAVE to follow like algebra or physics formulas. So my point is, specially if you are teaching kids, make sure the class fun at first and THEN teach these rules, even if you think it will make it easier for them. It's just like when you're learning your native language, you never start learning it with grammar, you learn it talking with your friends and parents, even that everyone knows how important grammar really is, it is never the first thing a child must be taught. Quitting my piano class because it wasn't fun is THE thing that I regret the most in my life, but it is understandable for a 7 year old me =/
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, I recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When I play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
@@Kapthoswhat you're talking about is more related to the quality of teaching, not the content of what you learn. Keeping your back or your hand in good position is important otherwise you will start to get pain in your back or fingers. From what I've learned, there is a base position when you play the piano which should feel relaxed without any tension. In that position, your back is straight (but not stiff), and the palm of your hand is round like your teacher taught you. Like she says in the video, music is movement and we get away from that position more and more as we're getting advanced in piano playing but that base position should be anchored in our body otherwise we start to get pain and injuries when playing. So that's why teachers insist so much on that base position with beginners. Of course, some teachers are better at making their lessons attractive than others but that's another problem.
The teachers I had never adequately taught basic techniques such as the one you demonstrate here. Thank you so much; I've learned more from your videos than from years of lessons.
Wooow, dieses Video ist perfekt als Erklärung/Beispiel der "Hand Shaping" bzw. Bewegung der Hand. Vielen Dank. Dein Youtoube-Kanal ist der Hammer! 🔥 Grüße aus München
My teacher gave one more hint: Imagine built into your wrist is a flexible spring, sometimes softer, sometimes a bit harder. The idea of it gives some natural movement to the wrist. This lesson here is really important. Thank you.)))
Thank you for talking about low wrist dynamic control. My uni professor taught me about that over a decade ago, but called it 'playing into the keys'. Even after a decade, I've struggled to explain it as clearly as you have. I'll be sharing your video with all my students. Vielen Danke.
How I got strength and stability to play the piano. Think of everything as a hammer strike. My first piano teacher taught me this, and I am so confident playing now because of it. Every note and chord as striking and using your wrist like a hammer. Man, you will have strength in no time!
Thank you for this! I been trying to figure this out for a long time, and always am looking for more tips. Today too looked at wrist movement for an hour or two, and watching this video it's definitely helpful!
I like your example , it may seem complicated but nothing is more complicated that getting a balanced note sound in scales as a relitively new piano practicioner . Different pianos have different qualities , some are just really hard and some easy . I had to look into exactly what it was that makes such a difference in pianos , either grand or upright to fully understand the type of quality that a balanced and good scale , spanning four octaves should " ideally " sound like .
Love your videos. I took a break from playing the piano in middle school and now at 25 I’m taking lessons again. Thankfully I remember lots of things. Your videos are super helpful! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us ❤
Рубинштейн на 1:03 просто супер🤣. Я тоже учусь музыке. Мне очень нравится, как вы играете. Сейчас я играю Ф. Лист Ноктюрн #3. Было бы интересно и полезно послушать это произведение в вашем исполнении.
This video remind me of Yulianna Avdeeva in the Chopin competition. My favorite part is when she played Moderato. Nobody else I've seen plays that piece like her, and part of why I like it is her movement (including her wrists), much to your point here.
Thx you so much - I never made any thought of it before. May be you can take next time an easier /popular song, so we can practice it on a well known song.
Question: I just started with a new piano teacher, she is really adamant about how I place my finger on the piano, i.e. with the tip of your fingers, with them always bend, how important is this. Because my idol is Horowits and he was known doing the opposite, Great video BTW.
most masters of piano were aware of those choices to play like that, so i would suggest you get used to your teacher’s technique and take what you find useful and discard what you dont, after all we all have different hands and for some people it’s going to be more comfortable to play in a different ways, but there’s always the proper technique you need to develop. Have a nice day!
I don't suggest copying Horowitz in any way even if you were advanced. Firstly, flat fingers are a very different technique in comparison to the ball-like hand shape, it is difficult to play in that way and it is used by the Russian Music School for a singing tone. But beginners aren't suggest to do this as it isn't proper for someone learning basics. Secondly, find your own views and style, you don't have to have flat fingers to play well
Hey sorry I know your question might be more directed to Annique, but just wanted to chime in about Horowitz: I’ve noticed he seemed to only play “flat fingered” on the black keys which makes sense considering they are higher than the white keys and thus wouldn’t need to lift the fingers as much if they were bent. If you watch footage of him playing closely, you’ll see that he mostly plays the white keys with his fingers curved. Also, from what I’ve heard from friends and co workers who have played his piano, they all say that the touch weight on his piano was very light which makes a big difference.
@@SCRIABINIST I am working on Czerny school of velocity op 299, I still have a long way to go, but I wouldn't consider calling myself a beginner anymore, problem I have right now, I have to play the opposite of what I have been for the past 3/4 years.
This is no right or wrong answers here. Some Russian teachers say you should never move your wrist at least as a beginner. Then these is European, japanese and Chinese styles which incorporate more wrist moments in their playing. It is very difficult for me to watch someone's wrist goining up and down. However, it is important to play the disconnected notes, like breathing correctly. My teacher once told me imagine you're playing and your hards are doing the dancing at the same time. People enjoy looking at your hands as well as your playing.
My teacher was Russian, and she taught exactly this, but with more focus on a slightly lowered wrist for dynamic control, as a means of undoing high-wrist/finger-dependant playing that locked up the wrists. Once you start getting used to feeling the power come from outside your fingers, then you can employ the wrist rotations. Many people have a tendency to play with raised fingers which locks up your tendons, so I can see why Russians emphasise the aforementioned now.
A basic grasp of anatomy and physics applied to one’s own structure helps in everything…in your (pianist) case ,I believe it is crucial to know how a piano works so (like in painting) you do 50% of the work,your instrument the other 50%
I think the combination of vertical and horizontal movements, you might be referring to 'rotation'. I'm just a learning pianist who happened to see this concept in a book :)
It's a possibility. I mean it makes sense in English to describe the circular motion as rotation, but a true "rotation" in piano comes from the forearm (including the wrist). Circular wrist motions don't necessarily include forearm and are different from these forearm rotations. (Rotations can also include playing a little more on the side of your pinkies too)
Thanks a lot for these useful technical details, Annique. By the way, I have a question related to the fingering technique. At 8:54, you display a part with F F F F and the fingering is 1 2 3 4. then of course 5 will be for the following G. But why this movement of fingers such as 1234, instead of 1114 or 2224 or smtg else?
Would a lower wrist be injurious if we always intend to let our arm weight take control over the fingers (fingers shouldn't be too relaxed, so if we need to play with low wrist, we have to use some strength of the fingers, which comes from your forearm)?
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, I recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When I play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
The problem is, my electric piano does NOT have dynamics! So thay everytime I press a key, no matter how soft or how hard I go, I only get 1 volume of sound! So, I was practicing in playing it that my playing was smooth, and fast and you name it! But as soon as I played on a grand, It sounded goddamn terrible! Pls help! Any suggestions?
![Piano Technique Tutorial: Wrist Circles and Arm Motion [Feat. Beethoven, Chopin, Brahms]](/img/n.gif)
Im a piano teacher and Im the same opinion like you. These movement from the wrists should be the very first thing a beginner has to learn. It's one of the most important technique to start with. To all beginners: Please take your time to learn the flexible movement from the wrist, don't be stiff and let your wrist feel free. Don't rush to the next big piece in the beginning. Learn the Movement on very easy pieces!
Even agreeing with almost everything you said, I'll give you a point of view of a beginner.
Back when I was 7-ish I saw that iconic Tom & Jerry episode and I decided that my dream was to play Hungarian Rhapsody nº2 just like Tom did, so my mom put me in a piano class. My teacher kept telling me what I call "etiquette rules", so the only thing I can remember is her telling to keep my back straight and that I should imagine an egg between the palm of my hand and the piano keys and that I should never "break this egg".
Even after 20+ years, all I can remember is me doing the C Major scale up and down with both hands and hearing she saying..."broke the egg, from the start", "broke again, from the top", "straight your back, again".
Today I understand why proper technique is important from the beginning, but everyone should first feel like they're making music so the practice is fun and enjoyable and not another set of rules that you HAVE to follow like algebra or physics formulas.
So my point is, specially if you are teaching kids, make sure the class fun at first and THEN teach these rules, even if you think it will make it easier for them. It's just like when you're learning your native language, you never start learning it with grammar, you learn it talking with your friends and parents, even that everyone knows how important grammar really is, it is never the first thing a child must be taught.
Quitting my piano class because it wasn't fun is THE thing that I regret the most in my life, but it is understandable for a 7 year old me =/
@@Kapthos very well said.
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, I recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When I play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
@@Kapthoswhat you're talking about is more related to the quality of teaching, not the content of what you learn. Keeping your back or your hand in good position is important otherwise you will start to get pain in your back or fingers.
From what I've learned, there is a base position when you play the piano which should feel relaxed without any tension. In that position, your back is straight (but not stiff), and the palm of your hand is round like your teacher taught you. Like she says in the video, music is movement and we get away from that position more and more as we're getting advanced in piano playing but that base position should be anchored in our body otherwise we start to get pain and injuries when playing. So that's why teachers insist so much on that base position with beginners. Of course, some teachers are better at making their lessons attractive than others but that's another problem.
The teachers I had never adequately taught basic techniques such as the one you demonstrate here. Thank you so much; I've learned more from your videos than from years of lessons.
Wooow, dieses Video ist perfekt als Erklärung/Beispiel der "Hand Shaping" bzw. Bewegung der Hand.
Vielen Dank. Dein Youtoube-Kanal ist der Hammer! 🔥 Grüße aus München
My teacher gave one more hint: Imagine built into your wrist is a flexible spring, sometimes softer, sometimes a bit harder. The idea of it gives some natural movement to the wrist. This lesson here is really important. Thank you.)))
Thank you for talking about low wrist dynamic control. My uni professor taught me about that over a decade ago, but called it 'playing into the keys'. Even after a decade, I've struggled to explain it as clearly as you have. I'll be sharing your video with all my students. Vielen Danke.
Her Chinese is so good! 😵
How I got strength and stability to play the piano. Think of everything as a hammer strike. My first piano teacher taught me this, and I am so confident playing now because of it. Every note and chord as striking and using your wrist like a hammer. Man, you will have strength in no time!
I smashed the like button! I am going to wear this video out by re-listening to it, and re-listening to it. 😁😇.
Thank you for this! I been trying to figure this out for a long time, and always am looking for more tips. Today too looked at wrist movement for an hour or two, and watching this video it's definitely helpful!
Isn’t it so weird how a lot of magicians play piano? (Including me lol)
Very well explained! Thanks for clarifying the secrets of the wrist.
nice video i like it because it helps a lot for easy movement
Thanks, I never paid much attention to my wrist. I need to start looking more carefully into this part of piano play.
Thank you for the video!
I love to see the bloopers and your personality at the end. ❤👍
I like your example , it may seem complicated but nothing is more complicated that getting a balanced note sound in scales as a relitively new piano practicioner . Different pianos have different qualities , some are just really hard and some easy . I had to look into exactly what it was that makes such a difference in pianos , either grand or upright to fully understand the type of quality that a balanced and good scale , spanning four octaves should " ideally " sound like .
Would love to see more of these Videos!
Love your videos. I took a break from playing the piano in middle school and now at 25 I’m taking lessons again. Thankfully I remember lots of things. Your videos are super helpful! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us ❤
THANK YOU ANNIQUE FOR THE 新年快乐🤩🤩🤩
U r so good at teaching this
Dzień dobry from Poland 😀
op 9 no 1 is one of my favourites :)
God, that was a lot of information that I'll need on my way to become a professional pianist, thanks!
Рубинштейн на 1:03 просто супер🤣. Я тоже учусь музыке. Мне очень нравится, как вы играете. Сейчас я играю Ф. Лист Ноктюрн #3. Было бы интересно и полезно послушать это произведение в вашем исполнении.
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Она не умеет читать по русски!!! Лучше продублировать на английском!!
This video remind me of Yulianna Avdeeva in the Chopin competition. My favorite part is when she played Moderato. Nobody else I've seen plays that piece like her, and part of why I like it is her movement (including her wrists), much to your point here.
Can't wait for part 2!!
Thx you so much - I never made any thought of it before. May be you can take next time an easier /popular song, so we can practice it on a well known song.
It was really helpfulllll❤❤❤
Thank you very much!
This is what I needed. Tysm.
Thank you for lovely explanations. 😊❤️👏👏
OMG I NEEDED THIS!!!
Thank you❤️❤️
Dzień dobry! Thanks for all what you are sharing here!
Loved it!
Thank you!
Question: I just started with a new piano teacher, she is really adamant about how I place my finger on the piano, i.e. with the tip of your fingers, with them always bend, how important is this. Because my idol is Horowits and he was known doing the opposite, Great video BTW.
most masters of piano were aware of those choices to play like that, so i would suggest you get used to your teacher’s technique and take what you find useful and discard what you dont, after all we all have different hands and for some people it’s going to be more comfortable to play in a different ways, but there’s always the proper technique you need to develop. Have a nice day!
I don't suggest copying Horowitz in any way even if you were advanced. Firstly, flat fingers are a very different technique in comparison to the ball-like hand shape, it is difficult to play in that way and it is used by the Russian Music School for a singing tone. But beginners aren't suggest to do this as it isn't proper for someone learning basics. Secondly, find your own views and style, you don't have to have flat fingers to play well
Hey sorry I know your question might be more directed to Annique, but just wanted to chime in about Horowitz: I’ve noticed he seemed to only play “flat fingered” on the black keys which makes sense considering they are higher than the white keys and thus wouldn’t need to lift the fingers as much if they were bent. If you watch footage of him playing closely, you’ll see that he mostly plays the white keys with his fingers curved. Also, from what I’ve heard from friends and co workers who have played his piano, they all say that the touch weight on his piano was very light which makes a big difference.
@@SCRIABINIST I am working on Czerny school of velocity op 299, I still have a long way to go, but I wouldn't consider calling myself a beginner anymore, problem I have right now, I have to play the opposite of what I have been for the past 3/4 years.
@@zh.6795 Well at least you still have time to correct it, 3 to 4 years isn't too long
Wondering what the proponents of the Taubman approach would say about that low wrist...
The video i don’t wanna watch but the video i need to watch
Thank you. Love and light.
this is amazing❤❤❤😮🎉
Thanks this is something I'm working on !!!!!
Please continue videos with wrist movements
This is no right or wrong answers here. Some Russian teachers say you should never move your wrist at least as a beginner. Then these is European, japanese and Chinese styles which incorporate more wrist moments in their playing. It is very difficult for me to watch someone's wrist goining up and down. However, it is important to play the disconnected notes, like breathing correctly. My teacher once told me imagine you're playing and your hards are doing the dancing at the same time. People enjoy looking at your hands as well as your playing.
Very clarifying. Would you also know which traditions advise using lots of arm weight and movement?
My teacher was Russian, and she taught exactly this, but with more focus on a slightly lowered wrist for dynamic control, as a means of undoing high-wrist/finger-dependant playing that locked up the wrists. Once you start getting used to feeling the power come from outside your fingers, then you can employ the wrist rotations. Many people have a tendency to play with raised fingers which locks up your tendons, so I can see why Russians emphasise the aforementioned now.
Yes I agree a natural fluid expressive movement is a nice addition to what we hear. It compliments it
A basic grasp of anatomy and physics applied to one’s own structure helps in everything…in your (pianist) case ,I believe it is crucial to know how a piano works so (like in painting) you do 50% of the work,your instrument the other 50%
新年快樂！紅包拿來☺️
Wirklich ganz tolles Video.
I realized that my problem es my wrist movement. Thank you!
I think the combination of vertical and horizontal movements, you might be referring to 'rotation'. I'm just a learning pianist who happened to see this concept in a book :)
It's a possibility. I mean it makes sense in English to describe the circular motion as rotation, but a true "rotation" in piano comes from the forearm (including the wrist). Circular wrist motions don't necessarily include forearm and are different from these forearm rotations. (Rotations can also include playing a little more on the side of your pinkies too)
Thanks!
Please make videos on how to get better at sight reading it will greatly help me!
Check out her channel, she just made one a couple weeks ago :)
you are the best 💖
Thank you!
It would be so cool if you can play the fugue No.2 in C minor by Bach please
Schönes Beispiel, Annique!
Could you implement this type of lesson into an ever changing patterns piece which is also fast, like a Mozzart sonata?
I really believe you but why does horowitz play with a very low wrist yet he creates a magical sound with all the dynamic changes
He's professional. Duh.
Just YESSS!!!!!!
Thanks a lot for these useful technical details, Annique. By the way, I have a question related to the fingering technique.
At 8:54, you display a part with F F F F and the fingering is 1 2 3 4. then of course 5 will be for the following G.
But why this movement of fingers such as 1234, instead of 1114 or 2224 or smtg else?
I'm not Annique but I think using different fingers on repeated notes enables more articulation in your playing, less tension and thus, less fatigue.
@@LouisR56 Oh, thanks a lot for the advise Louis.....
@@agrotte You're welcome ! :)
I just did not like it, I adore it!! Excellent!!
Gut erklärt!
Would a lower wrist be injurious if we always intend to let our arm weight take control over the fingers (fingers shouldn't be too relaxed, so if we need to play with low wrist, we have to use some strength of the fingers, which comes from your forearm)?
I am a church pianist who learned w/o formal lessons, I recently started taking an applied piano class at my college. My teacher has been focusing on my technique (and lack off) and I've noticed that ever since I started with her, whenever I play the "church" way I have pain in my wrists. Like I'm training my arms and wrists during our lessons and undoing that by going back to the wrong technique. When I play, my left hand tends to roll and collapse, I'll go up then down and then stretch to reach my final note and that hurt to do. How do I fix that to prevent injury in the future?
“It’s a me, Mario!”
新年快乐 Annique
你会说中文吗?!?!? 我是希腊人但是我会说中文。 😁非常感谢您的视频！
What kind of microphone is that behind you?
新年快樂
Have you ever played Liebestraum no3? Asking for a 1min, 10min, 1hour challenge
8:50 huh? That's totally staccato? Tenuto is the bar I thought?
Staccato plus the curved line from legato means tenuto or portato. It's an alternative writing for the bar. :)
Ohaaa, wie hast du chinesisch gelernt?? Wie nice!!
She's clearly half-Chinese. Just look at her facial features.
круто играешь 💞💞💞💞
я кстати тоже пианист 🎹👨
I saw Freddie in the thumbnail
元宵节快乐
The problem is, my electric piano does NOT have dynamics! So thay everytime I press a key, no matter how soft or how hard I go, I only get 1 volume of sound! So, I was practicing in playing it that my playing was smooth, and fast and you name it! But as soon as I played on a grand, It sounded goddamn terrible! Pls help! Any suggestions?
Get an electronic piano with fully weighted keys as soon as you can:)
@@derpydudes7814 yeah about that, I’ve been trying to avoid to do that since I’m a bit tight on budget, but I guess that’s the only solution😔😔
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Why does your chinese sound so accurate?
She’s half Chinese.
@@matthewbnguyen Really? I never knew but thats cool!
@@matthewbnguyen which half ?
So einen Pullover brauche ich!
😉😊😚
I love these half German /half East Asian girl. They're so cute
Άπαπα Έλληνας!!
Outside her window, it is snowing.
Do 1 minutes 10 minutes 1 hour on tico tico no fubà
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Omi, Oma 傻傻分不清楚。左手，右手，傻傻分不清楚。老虎🐯，老鼠🐭傻傻分不清楚。。。
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