Improve Trills in 3 steps

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  • Many people are scared when it comes to trills on the piano. In this video I talk about 3 basic mistakes which will help you immediately to improve your trills. One video is not enough to go through all the details and as I said in the video there are lots of exceptions.
    On this channel I am going to share my experience and thoughts about fingerings, interpretation, fingertechniques and playing piano in generel. If you have any questions or ideas please leave it in the comments!
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  • @heartofthekeys
    @heartofthekeys  3 роки тому +86

    Happy Halloween everyone! Instead of a scary costume I thought it's time for a topic that seems to scare many people - TRILLS :P Do you have problems with trills? What helps you to overcome the problems? Share it in the comments!

    • @ckchang-wg2lw
      @ckchang-wg2lw 3 роки тому +1

      Happy Halloween

    • @lcmurillo1033
      @lcmurillo1033 3 роки тому

      Happy Halloween, what has always helped to play trills is hand positioning, relaxed hand and for long trills it helps a lot to use your wrist

    • @theroninpianist4443
      @theroninpianist4443 3 роки тому +3

      "Chill it's just a trill" You are right that'll look good on a shirt 😂

    • @danisuparmono5326
      @danisuparmono5326 3 роки тому +1

      finally a good thrill tutorial :) Thank you!

    • @funkyguy99
      @funkyguy99 3 роки тому +1

      One tutorial video on trills is not enough. How bout a trillogy?!

  • @SeaDrive300
    @SeaDrive300 3 роки тому +160

    I'm a beginner, so it will be quite a while before I have to deal with trills, but when I do, I'll remember... "Chill, it's just a trill"! Thanks, Annique! :-)

    • @SergieRachmaninoff
      @SergieRachmaninoff 3 роки тому +8

      Trills aren't as far away as you may think. Have a little practise now, and it'll pay off when you see them in the near future.

    • @pierfrancescopeperoni
      @pierfrancescopeperoni 3 роки тому +2

      Nah, you can start now.

    • @rachmusic9873
      @rachmusic9873 3 роки тому

      You’ve got this💪👍

    • @Bozzigmupp
      @Bozzigmupp 3 роки тому

      @@SergieRachmaninoff Isn’t trills easy

    • @stephantrzonnek1720
      @stephantrzonnek1720 3 роки тому

      @@Bozzigmupp depends - on a double bass, I find it hard - at least if you have to use the 5th finger ;-)

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 10 місяців тому

    I'm an intermediate player and I have been amazed at how much varying info on trills is out there. And, all from terrific pianists. One says use only your fingers, one says use only your wrists, one says a combo of the two, hold your wrist high, hold it low, and on and on. Some use every finger combination, some use just a few. All that being said, I appreciate your approach.

  • @alizamaniyan960
    @alizamaniyan960 2 роки тому +200

    Medical student here. So long story short, 2 and 3 have the same nerve. But 2 and 4 have different nerves. That’s why when you use 2 and 3, your finger gets stock. Because while your 2nd finger wants to get up the 3rd is getting order to go down. So 2nd goes down with it again. But in case of 2 and 4 you wont face the same problem. Because one nerve is responsible for lifting and another nerve is responsible for pressing the key. Separate pathways = no interference 😁👍🏼

    • @isaacgober1128
      @isaacgober1128 Рік тому +1

      And I'm assuming 4 and 5 have the same main nerve?

    • @pianotime8652
      @pianotime8652 Рік тому +7

      No, 4 and 5 share same tendon. They basically tied together. That's why it takes an extra effort to move them especially 4th

    • @riyuval
      @riyuval Рік тому +1

      huh thats interesting, do you know why 2 and 3 are easier for me? 2 and 4 is so much slower and its hard for me to trill fast, and my fingers get tired after a while, rather if i use 2 and 3, i can trill like a machine gun.
      i butterfly click in games i play, so may i be used to it or am i just built weird?
      i dont see how you could get used to it if it has to do with if its the same/different nerve

    • @riyuval
      @riyuval Рік тому

      oh, nevermind i watched the video 😭

    • @lilihe6333
      @lilihe6333 11 місяців тому

      Oh my gosh!! It helped to much! Thank you 👍

  • @pretzelkch8322
    @pretzelkch8322 3 роки тому +38

    "Physics not magic"
    Godowsky: hold my right hand (while I play an entire etude with my left)

  • @katarinajavorska
    @katarinajavorska 3 роки тому +27

    I was never really good in trills, so this video helped me a lot, thank you.

  • @agneslau1698
    @agneslau1698 3 роки тому +6

    Hello from Hong Kong. I must say your videos about posture have helped me a lot. I’m an adult beginner to learn piano. But I believe it’s never too late 🤭

  • @aenema22
    @aenema22 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this! I've been working on Bach BWV 645 and struggling with the trills. After watching your tutorial my playing has improved!

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 3 роки тому +22

    Why didn't I have you as a piano teacher, my life would have been considerably less frustrating.

  • @gototcm
    @gototcm 2 роки тому +13

    Wow. Been trying for years to use the 4-5 finger combination and I thought I really sucked at this and always reverted to the 1-2. This was very helpful. You are a beautiful teacher.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 2 роки тому +1

      I cannot get over how beautiful she is too, even though i am just here for improving my playing, but i found it actually helps me trust in her advice and apply it more.

  • @wonderfalls2
    @wonderfalls2 3 роки тому +14

    Thank you Annique! I'm working on Mozart's famous Sonata in C KV 545 and these tips have helped me a lot already. Especially, moving to the heart of the key!

  • @rainbowfox1934
    @rainbowfox1934 Рік тому

    Very detailed. If you want to play well and fast, these details make all the difference in the amount of practice and the results.

  • @jsc22
    @jsc22 3 роки тому +3

    The middle finger directed off camera made me bust out laughing. Great video, thank you.

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt 6 місяців тому

    This is extremely helpful!! Thank you so much for this video!

  • @disienna
    @disienna Рік тому

    Finding this at the perfect. This is 2 from you today that have moved my brain forward. Thank you.

  • @jpdj2715
    @jpdj2715 3 роки тому

    I've never been scared of your trills. They're beautiful.

  • @bahriamir
    @bahriamir 3 роки тому +4

    Finally someone did a good tutorial for trills. Thank you.

  • @DariusSarrafi
    @DariusSarrafi 3 роки тому +8

    Good stuff! I also find that super relaxing my wrists and rotating it during a trill (especially a fast one) and keeping the finger weight into the keys (amount dictated by degree of loudness) relaxes the fingers, allows me to sustain the trill indefinitely and prevents fatigue!

  • @johnserpo9267
    @johnserpo9267 3 роки тому +44

    I'd like to see you play the trills in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 55 no. 2, it's an extended trills that also requires the little finger to play the melody.

    • @rachmusic9873
      @rachmusic9873 3 роки тому +2

      Probably my favorite nocturne at the moment

  • @SeanMillea
    @SeanMillea Рік тому

    awesome! learning sonata 16 and struggling with the trill in the fourth bar. this was helpful

  • @tombufford8659
    @tombufford8659 2 роки тому +1

    I've been watching a few of these and hope to reach my piano soon. Very different from music lessons and I am getting used to the chat. Thank you .

  • @bumblebee58134
    @bumblebee58134 2 роки тому

    OMG, I’ve been playing piano for quite a long time now, and I often had this problem playing chords/intervals in left hand: I had kind of a latency in one of the notes sometimes.
    And now I tried playing a piece where I had this issue(playing C+E flat in left hand, C often seemed a bit “late”, I just couldn’t seem to play them evenly, or it required huge concentration), so I tried moving finger on C to the bottom of the key, and it fixed it!😱😱😱 It actually makes perfect sense since I use the same pressure on both fingers, but with my previous way of playing it required different pressure in each finger while playing the interval
    Kudos to Annique for saving my playing!🙃

  • @laszlodezso3599
    @laszlodezso3599 3 роки тому +1

    Get well, Annique & Thanks for the video!!!

  • @petersnell3128
    @petersnell3128 Рік тому

    Wow wow wow!!!! Now I know where my trilling problem hails from. Lol. I was a 2&3 guy until I came across this video, then I changed to 1&4. It was like magic... I'm currently working on Mozart's Sonata in b flat K. 570 and for that, at least, 1&4 work better than fingers 2&3. Thank you for this gem!!!

  • @davezhao4051
    @davezhao4051 11 місяців тому +1

    Sure helped me a LOT😊

  • @peterneerincx23
    @peterneerincx23 3 роки тому

    I'm so happy with your advice: "alway try to avoid the use of the your fourth vinger". I have a crushed fourth finger on my right hand. It has been broken like 12 times during a very painful accident. As result it is curved, it has the same length as my pinky and I can't stretch it perfectly. But I can use it when I have to during piano playing, it is verry strong en free of pain. I'm just so happy that I crushed my fourth vinger and an other one 😁

  • @lasteclasnegras
    @lasteclasnegras 3 роки тому +3

    I really would see a whole hour masterclass of fingerings from you. I really learn a lot. Love you so much :)

  • @moni-tanaka
    @moni-tanaka 6 місяців тому

    Amazing! Can’t wait to practice this. Thank you!

  • @OneStepToday
    @OneStepToday Рік тому

    I searched for trill practice after watching Lang Lang Lesson 4 video in which he flawlessly trills with every pair of fingers. So we can say not everyone can do it except few insanely special people like him. As a beginner, my left hand fingers are very slow n weak.

  • @maternalheart66
    @maternalheart66 3 роки тому

    Okay my mind was blown when you talked about trills in the middle of the keyboard haha.

  • @gabrielstoica.official
    @gabrielstoica.official 11 місяців тому

    you solved one of my biggest problems.. thank you very much😅

  • @izakss
    @izakss 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video ❤️ I love to watch your videos..❤️

  • @nathanreiber6819
    @nathanreiber6819 Рік тому +1

    yours is the first video that actually provides any detail regarding technique. Other videos basically just explain what a trill and demonstrate it. Thank you so much. It's really helping.

  • @rogeralleyne9257
    @rogeralleyne9257 3 роки тому +1

    Love your channel & the freedom of playing that you promote!!👍👍👍

  • @pianoscienceartisraelzaval8143
    @pianoscienceartisraelzaval8143 2 роки тому

    I really love the tips given in this vídeo.......

  • @eddygonzalez2328
    @eddygonzalez2328 6 місяців тому

    Aside from trills, I've learn to do mordent, triplets, very short trills based on my hand position. Depending on wich way my hand is moving and the intervals I'm before and after. Some piece make using your 4th and 5th will be more convinient. Same with 3rd and fourth. Chopin Ballad No.1 has a passage a several measures into the 6/4 tempo, which requires a 1,2 finger trill on the LH as it ends with an 8va followed by chords.

  • @michalbouda5944
    @michalbouda5944 Рік тому

    Hello, I just finished learning Bach prelude BWW 855 and there's a part in which you actually have to trill with 4 and 5, but nice and educative video ❤️

  • @Pianissimo-s7r
    @Pianissimo-s7r 2 роки тому

    Brillant ! You are 100% right . And no matter how many hours you train 4/5 or 3/4 there is no way to play prolonged regular trill can performed fast with these couple of fingers. You can train finger independence, but ergonomics can’t be neither improved nor changes . There are tons of useless exercises promising false results such as 4/5 trills , even worse and stupid are the exercises that aim to develop finger strength given the only thing that move a finger is a tendon not a muscle and any bodybuilders knows that unfortunately you cannot train your tendons to make them stronger no matter what you do !

  • @wavynocturne
    @wavynocturne 3 роки тому +2

    Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that 1 and 2 trill the 1st gets stuck in the keys, I've been using 2 and 3 for trills in my right hand mainly because I'm not right hand dominant

  • @brucecrane9605
    @brucecrane9605 3 роки тому +2

    Very well done. As usual it was so helpful. Merci beacoup

  • @Likeafoxow
    @Likeafoxow 3 роки тому

    I've been playing most my life and I'm just learning this. Whaaaa. Thank you so much for such insightful info!

  • @PianoMan333
    @PianoMan333 3 роки тому +1

    What also helps for me is to also rotate the wrist a bit. So don't use only fingers but also your wrist

  • @pascalp.
    @pascalp. 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the video. Take care Annique ! Hope you're going better

  • @TheDrummersGalaxy
    @TheDrummersGalaxy Рік тому

    great lesson again😊

  • @jflau31
    @jflau31 3 роки тому +1

    Take care, Annique! Thanks for your tutorial :)

  • @misterdubsteppa
    @misterdubsteppa Рік тому

    When you were like "I just explain it briefly" I was like no... give me the nerdy deep dive :D
    By the way, I am here because of the crazy trill in la campanella where you casually continune playing the d# with the 1... so I gotta say I thought about using 4/5, but since I feel comfortable with playing an octave with 1/3 I think I will use 3/5 for the trill. And it is funny that you mention it because, I always felt like two fingers that have one finger between them are better for trills, like 1/3 or 3/5 for example.

  • @saflanix
    @saflanix 3 роки тому +1

    I have never played trills clearly so thank you sooo much for this🥰

  • @anthonym9494
    @anthonym9494 9 місяців тому

    This was so helpful!!!

  • @moisesaguirre3804
    @moisesaguirre3804 3 роки тому

    Hope you feel better soon!

  • @icksupsilonzett6513
    @icksupsilonzett6513 2 роки тому

    Gut erklärt! Wird nachher ausprobiert 😅

  • @musicpiano4304
    @musicpiano4304 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video it helped a lot✨👏🏻😄

  • @neodymidius
    @neodymidius 3 роки тому

    Besides your content which was very helpful and informative, your video style is developing in a very appealing direction! Very fun to watch!

  • @thanhtrucduong5815
    @thanhtrucduong5815 3 роки тому

    your sharing is so fun and helpful love it

  • @Pingoping
    @Pingoping 3 роки тому

    Waldstein 3rd movement blew my mind when I watched it for the first time (with sheets)

  • @angelob.1089
    @angelob.1089 3 роки тому +7

    Great video! It’s difficult to say which fingerings are most ideal because the answer will vary in different contexts. As much as possible, I try to use more than 2 fingers for my trills as it makes the trill much less tiring, much cleaner, and more natural because the motion is less dependent solely on the fingers. 1-3-2-3 and 2-4-3-4 are common changing-finger trills, but 1-3-2-4 is great too.

  • @CyberGene
    @CyberGene 3 роки тому

    This is an eye opener, thanks! I’ve always struggled with trills and never thought of using non-adjacent fingers 😲

  • @apucci
    @apucci 3 роки тому +4

    this week my piano lesson was exactly about trills and this was the best video I watched about it so far. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! im not scared anymore :p

  • @iLoveChopin
    @iLoveChopin 3 роки тому +3

    Just for the lols, can you do a video of you thrilling the La Campanella thrill section with 4-5?

  • @tallypianist
    @tallypianist Рік тому

    Great video, thank you!

  • @Tony-24
    @Tony-24 3 роки тому

    Thanks very much you fixed my Chopin B 150 it was really annoying because i felt always there’s mistake

  • @manuelernst397
    @manuelernst397 3 роки тому +1

    Good points! Ever tried 1-3-2-3 etc.?

  • @samchiappetta4629
    @samchiappetta4629 3 роки тому +1

    Great video thank you! I was definitely guilty of the 3-4 on the white and black notes, and it was indeed awful! Never again, thanks!!

    • @PassionPno
      @PassionPno 3 роки тому

      Why that fingering? lol

  • @tarjena
    @tarjena 3 роки тому

    Yesss💪 this is exactly what I needed😎

  • @renanmonteiro5261
    @renanmonteiro5261 3 роки тому

    Thanks. That was very useful

  • @lindokuhlembothwe8639
    @lindokuhlembothwe8639 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this, I really needed it.😊

  • @penguin3907
    @penguin3907 3 роки тому

    As a bedwars sweat (am butterfly clicker) I just use my pointing finger and my middle finger Lmao
    Thx for making great content! Keep up the good work!

  • @hcrescendo
    @hcrescendo Рік тому

    I just wanted to say I LOVE YOU . I've been struggling on Ballade 4's trill parts and you just saved my life.🤍🫶🏻

  • @7137271
    @7137271 3 роки тому

    My piano teacher many years ago gave a few papers with quotes from pianists. One of them was (I don't from who): I believe the fundamental exercise of piano playing is the trill.

  • @inigodiazderabago9254
    @inigodiazderabago9254 3 роки тому +24

    Since we are talking about trills, what do you think about Chopin's Barcarolle compared to the ballades, Annique? As if it should be considered as the fifth ballade, or is it even better and in its own completely different category?

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 3 роки тому +1

      The Barcarolle in some way along with the Fantasia Op.49 can both be considered Ballades in some way.

    • @connorrichardson368
      @connorrichardson368 3 роки тому +1

      it’s not a ballade, but the piece is used in the same way if that makes sense. (5-15min concert piece)

    • @callmeqt1269
      @callmeqt1269 2 роки тому

      Yeah, I categorize them as siblings of the ballades. Long, magnificent, ever-changing pieces that explore the whole range of emotions, keys, and techniques.

  • @sachagaillard4846
    @sachagaillard4846 2 роки тому

    Very helpful thank you !

  • @ExpldgN
    @ExpldgN 3 роки тому +1

    thanks, there's like 200 trills at the end of morning mood lol

  • @karon8537
    @karon8537 3 роки тому

    Very helpfull 👍🎶💐

  • @marlonbernales7706
    @marlonbernales7706 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @fritzkruel1947
    @fritzkruel1947 3 роки тому

    Hey
    I saw that I can wish for a piece for you to practice. ( 1 min, 10 min and 1 hour) I would be thrilled if you did Liebestraume No. 3.
    I don’t know if you already have practices this. I just love this piece so much that I just can’t get enough. Thank you before hand

  • @Imir89
    @Imir89 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video! I learned Morning by Gried and got stuck on trills there (couldn't play it clean making most of mistakes you've mentioned). Now I gonna try relearn using you tips.
    And waiting video about glissando and, maybe, tremolo :)

  • @lorenzomorgoni524
    @lorenzomorgoni524 2 роки тому +6

    Observation on good finger combinations (vs. weak ones) is very interesting and I will try for sure! Anyway, as some people noticed in previous comments, in difficult repertoire it's almost impossible to avoid 4-5 trills.
    What's your take on alternating fingers (1-3-2-3 and so on)?

    • @karolakkolo123
      @karolakkolo123 2 роки тому

      1-3-2-3 or 1-4-2-3 works good on longer trills, with the latter sounding more brilliant

  • @ogbeidedesmond
    @ogbeidedesmond Рік тому

    Hello, ur video really helped a lot to improve trills. But I also have a question, what fingerings u recommend to end a trill? Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @johnboger6
    @johnboger6 Рік тому

    What about three-fingered trills? I have a ms (Bach's 4th two-part invention) that recommends to use fingers 1, 2, and 3 with 1 and 2 alternating on the same lower key. That's for the trill in the right hand; different fingers for the left-hand trill.

  • @joezapata117
    @joezapata117 3 роки тому

    I like your nike sweat shirt ....thanks for this information!

  • @zidanidane
    @zidanidane 3 роки тому +1

    lovely video
    8:44 interesting word choice

  • @michaelalava8943
    @michaelalava8943 3 роки тому +1

    annique: don't do trills with 4 and 5
    chopin: op 25 no 6 go brrrrrrr

  • @crlomgnozen
    @crlomgnozen 11 місяців тому

    Wow you look specially beautiful in this video 😍
    Maybe your eyes and your hair, but you look gorgeous today. ❤

  • @Historia_
    @Historia_ 3 роки тому

    The video instantly reminded me of liszts s388 :D
    Very trill.
    Also, when is UA-cam membership coming?

  • @calvinhu8922
    @calvinhu8922 Рік тому

    Annique i really like the background music in the first beginning of your video, can you share the name of the music, thanks

    • @sevenjellies
      @sevenjellies 8 місяців тому

      Hey, if you end up finding the music could you please tell me too? I swear I've heard it somewhere but i can't recall it

    • @sevenjellies
      @sevenjellies 8 місяців тому

      Heyy i ended up finding it lol its called "The Curious Kitten" by Aaron Kenny

  • @willknapp8751
    @willknapp8751 Рік тому

    This has got to be my absolute favorite piano channel lol it’s always so fun, especially all of the bloopers. But also an absolute ton of great information! I think you’ll find you’re career is going to end up just being UA-cam, your channel is so top tier 💯 keep doing this & perhaps play full pieces too like on a monthly basis & I’m sure your going to end up with millions of subs, like zero doubt at all 👌🏼 thanks for your hard work btw!

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 3 роки тому

    One question in trills and ornaments (trills are at the end an ornament which lasts more time to finish) is the need to changing the fingers when phaying them. In the first years of learning of piano is said to change the fingers always is possible - sometimes this helps, other times that even seems becoming it harder to play. I don´t know if you made a video just for fingering in "short" ornaments, sorry if my question was answered in other video.

  • @pguyer
    @pguyer Рік тому

    How should one approach the trills in Bach's C minor sinfonia where you need to hold a note with one finger and trill with the same hand?

  • @SA-ze3yf
    @SA-ze3yf 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your nice videos.I like the heart of the keys concept and it makes perfect sense.However,I think sometimes(just sometimes)if I insisted on using the tip or the heart of the keys as you refer to them ,I would end up more difficult fingering.So I try to follow your advice whenever possible and I think you also did not mean that we should always play at the heart of the keys no matter what.

  • @TheSunlex
    @TheSunlex 3 роки тому

    Danke für das Video und gute Besserung! 👍

  • @luvmuppets
    @luvmuppets 3 роки тому +5

    I don’t know if you have ever tried playing “Rage Over a Lost Penny” by Beethoven. In many passages I found it impossible to play white notes at the heart of the key. I needed to play towards the top of the white keys in order for there to be as little space as possible between them and their adjacent black keys.

    • @manuelernst397
      @manuelernst397 3 роки тому +1

      Of course you need to shift the hand towards the black keys when you have to play them

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST 3 роки тому

    Please do a Scriabin video someday, but I love this video. Very helpful :D

  • @hollyavillella554
    @hollyavillella554 2 роки тому

    Can you please provide advice for how best to help employ the fifth (baby) finger in works where the fifth is used heavily? I'm thinking of Mendelssohn's Songs w/o Words ~ the song titled ~ Adieu. By the bottom of page 1, my right baby finger has had enough! Thanks for all your Tutorials!

  • @gsub0
    @gsub0 8 місяців тому

    What fingering would you suggest for the trill on black Dis and white E (from Chopin Nocturne C minor) ? 🙏

  • @daniellisowski4919
    @daniellisowski4919 3 роки тому

    When i first encounterd your
    Tutorials , you stressed the
    Advantage of letting time
    Of perfection not take up
    Slack still exhisting and
    Needed. Is there a point though
    Where just the basic recall
    Of previously rehersed measures
    Can place a psychological scar
    Tarnishing effect, or have you ever
    Experienced. Some type of syndrome of such. Even in a somewhat humorous confused
    State you always seem to confir
    Ideas relevant and very useful
    To piano. D.l.

  • @tenyako
    @tenyako 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting, helpful and thought provoking, thank you!

  • @mrderp6953
    @mrderp6953 3 роки тому

    Can you do a video on repetitions? I’ve been working on Friska and can’t seem to figure out the trills after the first beginning part

  • @zottelpony1084
    @zottelpony1084 3 роки тому

    So interessant, viel gelernt😍

  • @techtom1368
    @techtom1368 3 роки тому

    i love your channel! thanks for the tips :D

  • @adriannguyen283
    @adriannguyen283 3 роки тому

    Can you please play animenz unravel? I just want to know how hard it is for a classic pianist of your caliber to play it.

  • @Helloworld-xu2ui
    @Helloworld-xu2ui 3 роки тому

    The trills in chopin barcarolle is so hard tho. Those third trills are hard af

    • @michieldolfing
      @michieldolfing 3 роки тому +1

      Use this fingering:
      2 1 2 1
      4 5 4 5
      Or:
      2 1 2 1
      3 5 3 5
      With some practice, double thirds trills really aren't that bad!