FNC PULLS OUT THE ULTRA RARE LANE SWAP VARIATION | FNC vs TES | IWD MSI 2024

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  • @francesco8000
    @francesco8000 22 дні тому +122

    It's unfortunate that Noah did not have a good series because basically everyone else in FNC was playing really well.
    Oscarinin, Jun and Humanoid in game 2 were insane.

    • @keyki9832
      @keyki9832 22 дні тому +2

      What about humaniod game 3?

    • @gaoaibai6243
      @gaoaibai6243 22 дні тому +15

      They took turns inting. Let's not call out a specific player Noah had his moments same for Jun, Razork, Oscarinn and Humanoid. Game 1 Jun was not good, but game 2 he carried hard imho. Humanoid had a great game 1 and game 2 but got dominated and inted his ass off in game 3. Oscarinn was good in game 2 but in game 1 he was invisible and game 3 ughhh what a tragedy. Noah was bad all 3 games sure BUT that was expected, I will still put the blame on Razork though WHY did he troll that jungle fight and why didnt he focus on ganking bot? Just 3~4 men dive bot bro stop trying to gank mid it doesnt do anything, although Creme kinda sent it numerous times but mid in this meta is... not really the most important role imho.

    • @azhus9307
      @azhus9307 22 дні тому +6

      ​@@keyki9832 What was he supposed to do with 2 hard losing sides lol xD game was lost in draft/after TES countered their lane swap

    • @120rikeshlawoju8
      @120rikeshlawoju8 22 дні тому +24

      ​@@gaoaibai6243He was clearly the worst player today

    • @user112sqsa12
      @user112sqsa12 22 дні тому +2

      @@gaoaibai6243 ye for sure they took turn inting, wtf is this bullshit you're cooking? he got aphelios lulu into lucian nami game one and was playing on deficit, 2nd game i understand the deficit but it doesn't excuse being 50 cs behind, 3rd game is understandable becoz the draft was dogshit. Noah was by far the worst performing player in this series.

  • @sagealbrektsson7309
    @sagealbrektsson7309 22 дні тому +100

    While I think that no one except doubleshit is surprised about the outcome, I think we can all be pretty happy with how this series played out (from a "I want to watch good league of legends" standpoint). This was a fun and competitive series. Humanoid, Jun, and Oscar played really well! Good series.

    • @drkrn
      @drkrn 22 дні тому +14

      The outcome is surprising because it wasn't a 2-0 ngl

    • @nepchan2086
      @nepchan2086 22 дні тому +7

      Yeah, the problem is, i view fnc as a team that can take games of everyone when they really want to, but i can just as easily see them lose to loud ngl xdd

    • @sagealbrektsson7309
      @sagealbrektsson7309 22 дні тому

      @@drkrn fair point

    • @sagealbrektsson7309
      @sagealbrektsson7309 22 дні тому

      @@nepchan2086 you're correct; just because they took a game off TES doesn't mean they won't randomly decide to sprint it vs LLL. If Humanoid and Oscar decide to int, then Loud could absolutely take their head off, especially since neither team is good at Macro per se

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 22 дні тому

      @@nepchan2086 Well tbh they are still improving each split . If for summer they can be more consistent they might upset someone at worlds u never know

  • @Chesteritea
    @Chesteritea 22 дні тому +206

    Jun is chanelling his inner Korean

  • @leorikh
    @leorikh 22 дні тому +42

    The one thing I'll say about these series: TES does not fuck around in draft. They actually prepared against Loud and Fnatic, denying the K'Sante, banning Robo champs. These mates are in the right grindset.

    • @MrDespisedIcon
      @MrDespisedIcon 22 дні тому +2

      They need to be considering how much weaker they are than BLG, GenG and T1

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 22 дні тому +2

      Well imagine if they didn't . Tian incident again

    • @badbunny371
      @badbunny371 21 день тому +1

      Wow no way

  • @Bloodrush44
    @Bloodrush44 22 дні тому +90

    The 100 Thieves variation that BDS did first, Doublelift is truly clueless about other leagues

    • @billyjoe8185
      @billyjoe8185 22 дні тому +8

      no way!! The hidden lane swap tech!!1!

    • @ftu2021
      @ftu2021 22 дні тому +2

      @@billyjoe8185the long lost hidden jutsu? I can’t believe it

  • @limittestresearchinstituti5801
    @limittestresearchinstituti5801 22 дні тому +13

    I swear to god the West owes brother Tian ATLEAST a small contract for keeping soooo many would be stomps close, over the years. Thank you again, and always, brother Tian

    • @colesmith193
      @colesmith193 22 дні тому +3

      Haha maybe he feels bad for 2019 Worlds finals.

    • @supahsmashbro
      @supahsmashbro 21 день тому +2

      G2 is 5th LPL team, Tian is every LEC's 6th player

  • @CxerRy96
    @CxerRy96 22 дні тому +27

    Obviously it's not the only reason they lost but I can't help but be angry at the Humanoid tp interrupt on 369, 369 was 100% dead there if he completed the channel even his teammates gave up, that was (unless a miracle steal by Tian) 100% FNC's Baron straight after and a huge tempo swing...
    Otherwise, JackeyLove put Noah in the ground

    • @mlfoons9571
      @mlfoons9571 22 дні тому +2

      bro the game was completely lost. Also you dont usually have time to look where enemy is tping u just gotta cancel thats your first instinct.

    • @bogdan926
      @bogdan926 22 дні тому

      @@mlfoons9571 ????????????? in a soloq game lets say maybe you are right, but this is not soloq brother, tp takes what, 4 seconds or whatever it is, you can definitely see and also use comms to understand that he is tping into 4 people alone and he dies. Most probably they wouldnt win off that, but its a good chance to get a baron and maybe try to turn the game around

    • @DBasedAlex
      @DBasedAlex 21 день тому

      Not as significant as you think it was

  • @BrisanteStories
    @BrisanteStories 22 дні тому +63

    Noah played so atrocious this series its unreal, being down like 50 cs (!) at minute 10 to 12. Da heck!? And he has an absolute beast of a support on his side. Fnatic legit had to win a 4v5 which you just dont vs asian teams.

    • @Rayon811
      @Rayon811 22 дні тому +2

      Remember when Thoorin said at the start of Noahs carreer, that hes a better Rekkles?
      All because of high KDA with Aphelios 😅

    • @giannidavies3594
      @giannidavies3594 22 дні тому +1

      @@Rayon811 Rekkles has role swapped to support

    • @yattaaa641
      @yattaaa641 22 дні тому

      Low elo detected. Opinion rejected.

    • @Apnael
      @Apnael 22 дні тому +2

      ​​@@Rayon811 Noah is better than Rekkles as an ADC. Let's remember that he had to play against World champions and LPL finalists JackeyLove (IG) and Meiko (EDG). When rekkles had to play against Uzi he was anally ravaged and backshoted to oblivion. He couldn't even raise up from his chair for like 15 minutes after the fact. Facts.

    • @k.w0
      @k.w0 22 дні тому +7

      @@Apnael Let me take ONE Series and say that was all Rekkles did? And you call that Facts? Kinda sad. You compare World Champions against non-World Champion so you don´t even have a point here. Rekkles played against World Champions as well and performed good.

  • @awareclueless
    @awareclueless 22 дні тому +3

    While I love the sack casts where banter is the topic and not the game I like seeing Dom pick up the pace for analytical commentary for the international games again!

  • @clickbait9090
    @clickbait9090 22 дні тому +11

    This series makes me hyped to see a G2 vs TES matchup

  • @Oligorah
    @Oligorah 19 днів тому +1

    39:55
    369: I want to int
    Humanoid: No.
    369: and I took that personally

  • @SMashborn
    @SMashborn 22 дні тому +15

    Dom be like
    Fly is same level as FNC 🤔👌🤣😂

  • @DBasedAlex
    @DBasedAlex 21 день тому +1

    Man tian’s sappling at 34:26 really just all but won game 3
    No coming back from that

  • @hampusjohansson1397
    @hampusjohansson1397 22 дні тому +1

    GoatyLove

  • @finnblah201
    @finnblah201 22 дні тому +1

    Considering Noah was gapped so bad or is just bad? it was a really good showing from fnatic. Honestly not too bad.

  • @rodaraujos88
    @rodaraujos88 22 дні тому

    10:28 "The proper term you are looking for is lane swap" - Pickuptwice

  • @trevorsanso32
    @trevorsanso32 22 дні тому +1

    Surprised FNC got a game tbh

  • @raydziazumi3573
    @raydziazumi3573 22 дні тому +1

    shame, game 2 was so promising, but like dom said fnc was too confident in their ability to get the lanes they need and that`s not the case in games like that. aaand their pick was all about CC and tanking their way into fights, aaaand again it wasn't the case vs varus/ashe after they found themselves into 2v2.
    that the sad part, when they was picking into TES, no swap bullshit, they won...

  • @akshaymishra3674
    @akshaymishra3674 22 дні тому +1

    Good showing from fnatic tbf .
    Maybe better than what G2 will end up showing.

  • @clickbait9090
    @clickbait9090 22 дні тому +1

    Jun is Korean Korean

  • @VinJ17
    @VinJ17 23 дні тому +2

    ULTRA RARE 😂😂😂

  • @corey161
    @corey161 22 дні тому

    I dont understand why they went away from the type of draft they did in game 2

  • @SanchezBrown13
    @SanchezBrown13 19 днів тому

    DoubleDrop at home crying for sure

  • @zackpasma8240
    @zackpasma8240 22 дні тому

    Bro has spoilers in his own video 😭

  • @topiasmerikallio3134
    @topiasmerikallio3134 22 дні тому +1

    Decent showing from fnatic

  • @filipfrithiofsson1814
    @filipfrithiofsson1814 22 дні тому

    why no the sack?

  • @TheAverageTarnished
    @TheAverageTarnished 22 дні тому +1

    Tian inted, Creme inted and Humanoid played very well but JKL gapped Noah so hard that in the end it didn't matter. I also think 369 was too humble here picking K'Sante twice. He could have picked something more lane dominant and gapped Oscar.

    • @ovs4744
      @ovs4744 22 дні тому +4

      They’re strongest playing through bot and 369 knows that

    • @TheAverageTarnished
      @TheAverageTarnished 22 дні тому

      @@ovs4744 true, but I guess I like the team more when he's on Aatrox or Renekton. I understand Urgot is more of a counter, but he's a beast on it too.

    • @tommyhe4
      @tommyhe4 22 дні тому +1

      @@TheAverageTarnishedTheir R45 pick in game 2 was so bad. They didn’t ban LeBlac after what happened game 1 and used their R5 counterpick for Ahri which makes no sense. Humanoid would have picked LB anyways. If they R4’d Ahri and left the counterpick slot to 369, top lane would not get out of hand by mid game.

  • @lostclips7078
    @lostclips7078 22 дні тому

    I really think that drafts might be the issue for EU and NA, the idea that the enemy team has the same macro as you so you basically just sack the game and all in on a niche strategy. I think they should have just run back the second game comp cause that's what worked. Or learn to play Varus Ashe, cause if you're on the winning side of the match up maybe you can turn that in to more series wins by Fnc

    • @Kurtofon
      @Kurtofon 22 дні тому

      I think It's a lack of team Identity, most teams don't even know what their strengths are, or their win cons if the western team knows how to win early they can't close the game consistently enough for it to matter, and if they know how to close they consistently bleed too much resources early for it to matter. I think It's a lack of creativity In terms of drafting for your team to have unique ways of playing the game. Because time and time again it has been proven the west can't win by playing the same game as the east, they seem to be mechanically better, they have better game macro and general game knowledge it seems the only thing I think the west might be better in right now is building items on champions. G2 seems to be the only western team with an idea on how they want to play the game and that's why they might make a small dent on MSI. So I agree drafting is one of the problems but a fairly small one in the bigger scheme of things.

    • @majorscrub2856
      @majorscrub2856 22 дні тому

      @@Kurtofon Nah drafting was a big issue in fnc's loss this series. They lost game 1 because they played hard into a lane swap they couldn't rely on, and even so, humanoid LB nearly bailed them out. Game 2 they had a solid draft and no need for lane swaps, and they played for a clear win con through humanoid diffing. Despite having success in the first two games with humanoid on LB, enhanced with a relatively strong early botlane, and a strong scaling/carry toplane in game 2, they still completely changed their gameplan and picked a tank-based, 3 lane-losing teamcomp with no real long term plan beside praying to get a successful laneswap off.

    • @Kurtofon
      @Kurtofon 22 дні тому

      @@majorscrub2856 Yeah and the reason why the draft is bad is the lack of team Identity and clear win con, again draft is a problem but not the root cause. Humanoid getting ahead especially against T1,GENG and BLG is just not a win con consistent, or even strong enough to win a game against these teams pointing out draft is like pointing to a wound in your thigh while simultaneously having a gaping hole in your chest.

  • @user-kd7os7gh8j
    @user-kd7os7gh8j 22 дні тому +2

    Not a good look for the NA>EU narrative

  • @naiscrim
    @naiscrim 22 дні тому +5

    Wp Fnatic, u can win even if u are 4v5.

  • @Buskyb
    @Buskyb 22 дні тому +1

    Europe and NA really aren't close to the Asian power houses, i dont think even peak 2019 g2 would be close to the 4 asian teams at msi

    • @Kiiiurself8482
      @Kiiiurself8482 22 дні тому +1

      I think peak G2 would smash those teams, don't forget they are the closest team in history to winning it all and on top of that their strength was in their insane champion pool that made them impossible to read

    • @bogdan926
      @bogdan926 22 дні тому

      @@Kiiiurself8482 2019 g2 is easily better than this version of TES what are you on lol. The other 3 its hard to tell, but TES is not that crazy this year

    • @jben212
      @jben212 19 днів тому

      Didn't "Peak" G2 lose in 19 mins or something?

  • @melodiepadua5433
    @melodiepadua5433 21 день тому

    ❤😂😅

  • @jackthomas3483
    @jackthomas3483 22 дні тому +5

    Day 2 of being a 369 truther. Eating good as always

  • @benwatts790
    @benwatts790 22 дні тому

    All Oscar's macro decisions just seem so bad. Laned well against of the goat tops though

  • @MrSpud-qe6eo
    @MrSpud-qe6eo 22 дні тому +1

    So route>>>> noah

  • @ardhern1392
    @ardhern1392 22 дні тому +2

    Noah is so fucking bad. Get Fnatic a real AD carry.

  • @user-bc2fo2xw8m
    @user-bc2fo2xw8m 23 дні тому

    first

  • @Micha-qv5uf
    @Micha-qv5uf 22 дні тому +4

    TES payed for this win. FNC 3rd draft was intentional losing or beyond stupid.

  • @monarchist2486
    @monarchist2486 22 дні тому +1

    FNC are so bad

  • @gaoaibai6243
    @gaoaibai6243 22 дні тому +1

    I agree it is kinda weird that "win speed" is somehow a deciding factor for the public's perception of how "good" a team is. You do NOT get any more points from winning faster than your opponent, UNLESS it is for the accolades or some shits. If you lose you lose and that is all bout it, it doesnt matter how fast or slow you lose imho. G2 once beat TL in the fastest Bo5 in entire LoL's history BUT was TL so much worse than G2? No man tf are you on bout they splitted games in groups and at worlds too IIRC. G2 was better than TL in their prime sure BUT it isnt a galactic gap like T1 playing with the wildcards or RNG 10-0 X fodder teams back in the days. It was more like 60-40 for me and tbh right now, I would not be suprised to see TL smash the livin shit out of G2 in a week tbh, much worse than what NRG did to them at worlds. Oh and I do NOT believe NRG is a better team than G2 btw another day and it could go the other way around, just... not on that day specifically.

    • @azhus9307
      @azhus9307 22 дні тому +3

      TL was waaaay worse than G2 what are you on about and even now G2 is definitely better but the gap isn't as big because it was astronomical in 2019

    • @jackspinner4727
      @jackspinner4727 22 дні тому +2

      Well losing in 17 minutes kinda says something.

    • @nepchan2086
      @nepchan2086 22 дні тому +1

      @@jackspinner4727 I mean t1 holds the fastest lose record but everyone seems to forget about that match when talking about fast losses, therefore shouldnt t1 be bad

    • @jackspinner4727
      @jackspinner4727 22 дні тому

      @@nepchan2086 well no of course not. But in this case, because I’m not a deushe bag I can tell the fly quest quick loss probably means they are worse than t1

    • @nepchan2086
      @nepchan2086 22 дні тому

      @@jackspinner4727 Well ofcourse they are, but it doesn't matter how fast you lose. the game was lost when they fucked up the top dive, why waste 40 minutes when it can only take 17

  • @MsTonkata
    @MsTonkata 22 дні тому +5

    4 minute upload and only 230 views, iwilldominic fell off HARD 😂

  • @rafayetrasti6191
    @rafayetrasti6191 22 дні тому +6

    T1 is far above TES. TES is overrated af.

    • @billyjoe8185
      @billyjoe8185 22 дні тому +25

      T1 fan detected. Opinion rejected.

    • @naiscrim
      @naiscrim 22 дні тому +2

      @@billyjoe8185 +1

    • @Kkkkkkkkkkkkk236
      @Kkkkkkkkkkkkk236 22 дні тому +16

      You T1 fans are like Lakers fans most cringe creatures

    • @dangraycon
      @dangraycon 22 дні тому +15

      I haven’t seen anyone rating TES above T1. Weird argument

    • @naiscrim
      @naiscrim 22 дні тому +2

      @@Kkkkkkkkkkkkk236 Ok buddy, hold up, now u are cringe.