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  • @jamesbuckley8917
    @jamesbuckley8917 6 годин тому +87

    I am a chemical engineer in the lithium battery industry for over 30 years. The 2 things you should have on board are ORGANIC VAPOR RESIPRATORS(half mask). They are not that expensive and use cartridges, no air tank. The electrolyte in the lithium ion cells use organic carbonates and they can be carcinogenic when inhaled. If you are smelling plastic burning, that is the battery case and not the cells. Secondly, the electrolyte can develop HF when overheated or if the cells leak. HF is a very strong acid, always use eye protection and rubber gloves if you see liquid escaping the cells. Do not touch the liquid electrolyte. If you do get it on you, use baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), ammonia (found in window cleaners), toothpaste (contains some basic salts), antacids (like magnesium hydroxide) to cleanse the area. Then wash with liberal amounts of water. If you get it in your eyes, flush with water for 10-15 minutes. The same acid protocol applies to AGM(lead acid chemistry), which uses sulfuric acid electrolyte.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 6 годин тому +4

      These are not lithium batteries.

    • @nullzero
      @nullzero 6 годин тому +2

      ​@stargazer7644 the house batteries are and having masks that cover you well enough for the Li Ion will still help for lead acid fumes.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 6 годин тому +3

      @@nullzero Granted, but you can't carry one of everything on a small boat. If you get to the point where you need a gas mask to deal with your house battery bank melting down it'll just be to get in the lifeboat.

    • @PsyTechnical
      @PsyTechnical 6 годин тому

      Was the lead acid AGM which need to be replaced with LiFePO4 batteries

  • @susiesmith9957
    @susiesmith9957 7 годин тому +70

    Two intelligent people tackling the issues head on while maintaining their composure during a very stressful situation. Kudos to you both.

  • @michellereynolds6290
    @michellereynolds6290 7 годин тому +53

    I seriously hope HH can get all of the issues you're having sorted out sooner than later so that you can fully enjoy that beautiful cat! You guys definitely must be frustrated (heck, I'm frustrated for you watching from the comfort of my home!), but you're doing a great job of keeping a positive demeanor. Love my Sundays with the Wynns 💙

  • @red_ben3487
    @red_ben3487 7 годин тому +67

    Assuming your fridge was on the 12v system, there's probably a major issue somewhere in the 12v system. 2 fridges had blown circuit boards, possibly from over voltage and now over charged batteries.

    • @theafricabug2529
      @theafricabug2529 7 годин тому +3

      This!

    • @jongmans38
      @jongmans38 7 годин тому +3

      Yes, could be linked.

    • @fallinginthed33p
      @fallinginthed33p 6 годин тому +3

      Should get electrical diagnostics tools onboard. Fixing electrical system gremlins is hard enough on a car or motorbike, it sounds like a total pain on a boat.

    • @ibrahimx28
      @ibrahimx28 6 годин тому +2

      thats a good point. The fridge could be sensitive enough that it was one of the first things to be fried.

    • @CarryOnRTW
      @CarryOnRTW 6 годин тому +2

      I'd be shocked if they didn't have diagnostic gauges and warnings for the electrical system on another screen somewhere on that boat.

  • @ZombieKiller1965
    @ZombieKiller1965 6 годин тому +41

    Im not as concerned about the battery as i am about the electrical system. Youve blown 2 fridges and now a battery. First of all obviously something is wrong with the entire 12v system. Secondly your fancy dancy control center hasnt detected the problem. You have to stop and seriously consider parking this thing. If the system is screwed up (which it obviously is) next time it could be one of your lithium batteries. If one of those goes up your screwed. Seriously guys, sit down and have a serious discussion about this boat. Its gone from being a warranty fiasco to being dangerous.

    • @bustermante8719
      @bustermante8719 6 годин тому +4

      Is there a bms system for those AGM batteries that shuts down when there is an issue ? There should be..there are also 12 V starter batteries from battleborn ,relion,and lithium pros that are probably a better bet than those AGM batteries ..and that may more easily be integrated into the BMS system you have for the balance of system ....and may be a good idea to have a foam based fire suppression system ...

    • @ZombieKiller1965
      @ZombieKiller1965 6 годин тому +4

      @bustermante8719 they have so many lithium batteries that it would have to be one hell of a fire suppression system and likely frightfully expensive. I was never comfortable with this setup but this situation now has me concerned about their safety.

    • @kregwhiteside8641
      @kregwhiteside8641 5 годин тому +3

      Is there a "lemon law" in the marine yachting world? Let HH know the fun and game is over and y'all want your money back and they can have the boat back.

    • @redpecker12
      @redpecker12 5 годин тому

      @@ZombieKiller1965 the batteries and motors are in confined spaces, one could put a self-actuated suppression system in for relatively less than a few hundred dollars US. Just having a Dry-chem or a foam extinguisher outside the area could also do the trick. Only installation of suppression systems is expensive, the upkeep and recharge/maintenance are minimal. It doesn't have to be that big, 5 nozzles total, a shutoff for the electrical, a gas shutoff. I don't see it costing any more than a grand, that's with all materials and labor. I've certainly put them in restaurants for a heck of a lot less, and although not exactly the same, very similar systems.

    • @dianegriffith3006
      @dianegriffith3006 5 годин тому +1

      Why is it that both your boat and La Vagabond had so many issues?
      Glad you’re close to land -you need the help! I agree with this first commenter suggestion. Do some deep thinking about this boat stuff. 🙏

  • @dianemilligan7370
    @dianemilligan7370 6 годин тому +8

    I admire how Nikki always finds the positives in any situation and how calmly you both focus on solving any problems.

  • @Globalbloke
    @Globalbloke 7 годин тому +14

    Probably the scariest moment ever, potential fire hazard on either side plus toxic fumes. Blooming lucky for the extra battery, maybe have 2 in the future! Glad you both made it 🙏🏻

  • @kimthomas652
    @kimthomas652 7 годин тому +19

    What a crazy passage. You guys work so well together. You keep calm and take care of business. Hope your warranty issues are solved and you're back under way quickly!

  • @51marshmellow
    @51marshmellow 7 годин тому +14

    Even though I knew you were going to be ok the problems you had and the stress you were feeling had my anxiety level rising. I now fully understand your wish to ‘get out of Dodge’ while Curiosity’s issues are sorted out. You have come so far from your first days of sailing, so glad something like this didn’t hit you early on. May the future aboard you home be much smoother ahead. Love you two❤❤❤❤

  • @toolkit71
    @toolkit71 5 годин тому +3

    No matter how many problems you have on your passages, your team works together to resolve the solution, bringing in outside help when required like HH, but the core of your team are you two. I love how you always end your videos on a positive note. Look forward to this video every Sunday you post.

  • @paulas_lens
    @paulas_lens 7 годин тому +14

    I wish more people could experience your two demeaners coping with stress, instead of the crap they consume watching drama-stoked "reality tv". Our world would be a better place for sure; more resilient, flexible, understanding, patient, and clear-headed. Thank you for putting your life out there - it helps us all.

    • @stephengreen2898
      @stephengreen2898 6 годин тому

      “Demeaners?????”. what is a demeaner?

    • @nooneanybodyknows7912
      @nooneanybodyknows7912 6 годин тому +3

      ​@stephengreen2898 The plural of demeanor is demeanors.
      Demeanor is a noun that refers to someone's outward behavior, including how they talk, stand, and make facial expressions. It can also indicate someone's attitude towards others. For example, you might describe someone as having a cheerful, cold, or confident demeanor.
      Here are some synonyms for demeanor: bearing, carriage, deportment, manner, and mien.
      In the United States, the preferred spelling is "demeanor", while in British English, the preferred spelling is "demeanour".

  • @jasonschneider7896
    @jasonschneider7896 7 годин тому +12

    Thank goodness it's a 12v system and not a 24v with only one good battery left! Glad you made it through that situation okay! Hope everything is okay health-wise!

  • @hockeynutt9434
    @hockeynutt9434 7 годин тому +15

    Same, came back from dog walk, grabbed a coffee, saw the vlog notification, feet up watching. Cheers from Ontario, Canada

  • @olebloom1641
    @olebloom1641 7 годин тому +10

    Great job handling an emergency. you two are great at being self sufficient when it matters.

  • @Naturalook
    @Naturalook 5 годин тому +2

    OH MY GOD!!!! You just survived the greatest nightmare of a fiberglass yachter. YOU DO REALIZE... those batteries were close to ignition, and once afire you would have minutes to be in a life raft, startled and confused... and in shock. Either one of those batteries could have gone, and it would haver been unstoppable. WOW!!!

  • @peterstgeorge7542
    @peterstgeorge7542 6 годин тому +6

    Love, support, communication, patience, humor mixed with some courage and positive energy makes for the most fantastic relationship learning videos. Pretty damn awesome for a couple that started out years ago showing us how to life and work from a tiny rv while traveling the USA. Thanks for always keeping it real !!

  • @AshleyMarks-
    @AshleyMarks- 7 годин тому +58

    I think HH is doing a good job. They are people in a system and one can’t control every aspect of systems like that. Cutting edge IS this way. If it was tried and tested and worked EVERY time it wouldn’t be cutting edge.
    The Wynns don’t have an easy job either. They make their content and live as honestly as they can in the world of sailing. Things break, there’s no wind, and things aren’t always as good as we thought. It takes time for a boat and it’s people to gel. They do a great job of describing problems while keeping it honest with respect to “this is sailing life”.
    The problems with this boat will take longer to fix than just a couple videos. Stick it out with HH and this great little boat. I think Nikki and Jason understand this.

    • @fallinginthed33p
      @fallinginthed33p 6 годин тому +4

      HH is acting as the system integrator and the Wynns are... paying beta testers 😅 It's nice to get a finished product when you're dealing with cutting edge tech but sometimes that isn't possible, like with these hybrid boats.

    • @davecisneros5285
      @davecisneros5285 6 годин тому +2

      I agree, they are dealing with theoretical and actual installation in a dynamic environment.

    • @lc285
      @lc285 5 годин тому +1

      The problems with this HH boat has been more than a couple of videos. The problems since they received the boat have been almost every video since.

    • @ZombieKiller1965
      @ZombieKiller1965 5 годин тому +1

      "Great little boat"? This thing is a disaster and now it's getting dangerous!

    • @AshleyMarks-
      @AshleyMarks- 5 годин тому

      @@lc285 agreed. I think the timeline for resolution for a product like this is about a year. Best guess.

  • @urgetodrive
    @urgetodrive 6 годин тому +8

    At what point do you just file a lawsuit against HH and/or have them buy the boat back? If either of those batteries had burst, the boat probably would have sunk, caught fire or been otherwise totaled. HH incompetence put you in a life threatening position. What if you had been in the middle of a long crossing and not a few miles from a marina?

  • @sandyj342
    @sandyj342 6 годин тому +4

    Man, this is stressful watching! Jason changing those batteries and Nikki steering into the Marina, you guys are made for each other. Hope things get sorted out and back on with cruising ✨

  • @karenpolansky9097
    @karenpolansky9097 7 годин тому +6

    It was only when I saw Jason on the dock that I realized I was holding my breath. WOW… You two certainly have your share! Please stay safe. ❤❤

  • @PN_48
    @PN_48 8 годин тому +18

    Sunday morning with coffee and the Wynns! Awesome👍

  • @leemiller2811
    @leemiller2811 7 годин тому +9

    The two of you manage repairs so well. Genius might be a word. So. So complex! God bless you two. 🌺

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w 6 годин тому

      Also worth crediting having a cool head under crisis. I recall taking scuba lessons where this was the main point of the training. It applies well to all things in life.

  • @fredbear2648
    @fredbear2648 7 годин тому +8

    I would have the bulging batteries on the stern step, ready to push them off the boat, in case of fire. We had the same thing happen on our Catalina 42.

  • @cjg6364
    @cjg6364 6 годин тому +12

    Not a well thought out system if there are no overcharge warning messages or lights on a boat with that much electric storage capacity. Our boats all have a voltmeter at every helm station - something we habitually check on while under way as often as we check engine temperatures and oil pressure. Battery overcharging, as you all know, can produce explosive and toxic gas - serious stuff.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 6 годин тому

      These are not the house batteries. These are the lead acid starting batteries. Just like on your car.

    • @marioreali5925
      @marioreali5925 5 годин тому

      ​@stargazer7644 that just emphasizes the point. Cars all have voltage monitoring on the 12 Volt systems. Ideally, a voltmeter or these days the computer.

  • @summerann
    @summerann 7 годин тому +5

    So proud of you! You fill my heart with inspiration. Love the way you handle these sail life challenges while pushing the boundaries trying to improve the status quo.

  • @DavidMiller-yc5ol
    @DavidMiller-yc5ol 6 годин тому +6

    I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I think that you might want to consider tying a rope or some sort of a belt around your waist and then connecting it with a Carabiner to a rope that's connected to the boat. You do that in case the rope gets Tangled Up in something underwater and you can quick release so don't drown. The way you're doing it seems extremely unsafe.

  • @glenfield9199
    @glenfield9199 6 годин тому +8

    Omg it’s like a floating land Rover…

  • @jaytroxel3495
    @jaytroxel3495 5 годин тому +1

    Bravo you two..Honestly, this content put out by the Wynns for all of us to view on UA-cam is better than TV. Its 'reality' TV at its finest. Thank you both for all the work you put in with planning, filming, editing and posting your content. It really is top notch.

  • @HeidiandFranny
    @HeidiandFranny 6 годин тому +2

    We are re-electrically powering our boat and all this is very helpful! Great diagnostics work and way to stay calm and keep thinking creatively. Oh, thanks for the tip on the fenders! We have had them fly up and I don't want to fill them with water ;) You two are amazing!

  • @CLewis-ti4hn
    @CLewis-ti4hn 7 годин тому +9

    Death by a thousand cuts….keep posting video’s like this and HH will pay you to return the boat.

  • @LaszloBagi
    @LaszloBagi 7 годин тому +13

    Wow..... this boat has never ending issues

    • @gulfstream-tvstudios9546
      @gulfstream-tvstudios9546 6 годин тому

      and thats only the beginning... but every boat has this ... I am on one since 50 years ...not one day !!!!! of no problem

    • @LaszloBagi
      @LaszloBagi 6 годин тому +1

      @@gulfstream-tvstudios9546 Not ever boat has issues like this one. I have three with minor issues.

    • @captainmike808
      @captainmike808 5 годин тому

      My 40 year old Cheoy lee has less issues.

  • @araneaetvelivolum1086
    @araneaetvelivolum1086 7 годин тому +10

    What would a potential HH customer think when seeing this video? The issues with HH compound and i am not seeing any reason to buy a boat from them. Let's hope they heard the call and get everything fixed especially the fridge and invest into training their service staff (battery break not engaged after service, really?). If this battery issue happened at night on marina without ventilation... Im glad you are safe and out of the taifun zone. ❤

  • @MicheIIePucca
    @MicheIIePucca 7 годин тому +4

    A large UPS in our three story building at work had similar issues with their lead acid batteries (SLA) where they swelled and spewed toxic fumes.. The fire department was called and they evacuated 1000 employees from all three floors for a day. Serious stuff.

  • @surfinghouston
    @surfinghouston 6 годин тому +4

    Get some fire proof blankets and bags to cover the batteries to minimize blast/splash radius or fire. Don’t forget a fire extinguisher for batteries, respirators

  • @Nancelot13
    @Nancelot13 7 годин тому +9

    Nikki is a boss at driving that boat!!!

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w 6 годин тому +3

    Wow! Congratulations on a relatively safe outcome to a bad event. HH continues to be a reliable partner in a crisis. You are a good partner in shaking down these new systems. Adding sensors to detect these fumes is a good move. Strikes me this will become standard equipment for these boats.
    It really could have been much worse. Look forward to hearing the root cause of the failure. Seems like an engineering change to keep these two batteries isolated or to detect thermal runaway and isolate the problem battery would be in order. Begs the question how well the house battery system is designed to detect and isolate runaway. Those ones could burn down the house.

  • @BobFirth
    @BobFirth 5 годин тому +2

    Never been so happy to see you at a marina. Time for a well deserved beer.

  • @flyinggyros9745
    @flyinggyros9745 7 годин тому +5

    You guys are so good at problem solving. Way to go. Alan

  • @aquatrax123
    @aquatrax123 5 годин тому +1

    I work in IT and have had a few battery backup systems go, and that's a smell you will never forget!

  • @memphalino
    @memphalino 5 годин тому

    You Wynns are amazing super heroes on so many levels. Entropy is so high in the world right now and you're surfing you entropy waves valiantly ... yet ... Safety First you two!

  • @nicclark9791
    @nicclark9791 7 годин тому +7

    3:30 am was always when it would do get not so good, I started calling it the witching hour. LOL

  • @vince2837
    @vince2837 7 годин тому +4

    Great job guys, not panicking, take it slow and thoughtful and you can get though anything 🤗

  • @eliwilliamson7849
    @eliwilliamson7849 5 годин тому +1

    That was difficult to watch. My anxiety was spiking. Y’all are safe and
    Incredibly resilient! Thank goodness.

  • @NotAsTraceable
    @NotAsTraceable 5 годин тому +1

    If my wife and I had been confined to the space of a sailboat for 8 years one of us would have been fish food by now. You two seem like pretty easy going mature people which is kinda rare these days. Love you guys. Best wishes.

  • @bwise7739
    @bwise7739 6 годин тому +4

    Stray currents and now overcharging batteries. Not to mention shoddy warranty work. I wonder what boats 1 and 2 are experiencing?

  • @marcellacruser951
    @marcellacruser951 6 годин тому +2

    Okay, so no fires and no explosion, everyones okay, you're safely docked and nothing is unrepairable. Coulda been a whole lot worse. I remember when the life boat locker came off the old gal mid passage while you were getting knocked around, and half the ocean was trying to get into the cockpit with every wave slap and it felt like she was coming apart at the seams. I just kept thinking, "At least this time, they have the life boat if it goes to poop." Here's to speedy repairs and new safeguards.

  • @johnmiddleton6252
    @johnmiddleton6252 6 годин тому +3

    A very interesting episode, you guy's are incredibly good at what you do. You are so even tempered and cool under pressure, no panic you just get the task at hand done. I have been watching you from the very beginning and really live you to.

  • @kathleenchild
    @kathleenchild 6 годин тому +1

    You two are great sailors. I’m very impressed how you handled a scary event with a well planned out solution. Hope you have smoother sailing going forward.

  • @mecalis
    @mecalis 6 годин тому +3

    Can't imagine spending over a million dollars and having so many problems so soon. It's a boat, I get that, but I feel like there were some checks missed in the process.

  • @kevgeiss
    @kevgeiss 7 годин тому +7

    One of the worst smells I've ever dealt with when I drove a heavy truck. You will never forget that smell.

  • @tinbarnranch
    @tinbarnranch 7 годин тому +2

    Opportunities create wisdom! Rock on.

  • @jeanefraserCEO
    @jeanefraserCEO 7 годин тому +4

    😢. Sending love and prayers. You have another day and story to tell. You have each other 💗

  • @debbiem7834
    @debbiem7834 7 годин тому +3

    So glad you two made it safely there!!! I'm sure you are aware that other sailing channels that have purchased new catamarans lately have had some major issues with their vessels as well. So it's not just HH. We have been RVers and we know that many people have warranty work on their new RVs but it seems the new catamarans seems to have tons more issues than most other "forms of transportation" (Motorhomes, Campers, trucks, cars, all boats) of any kind. I guess I'm thinking outloud and wondering why? Maybe the more technology you have the more chance of something going wrong? I don't know. Anyways, glad you are safely in port. I hope breathing all those toxic fumes that neither one of you have any bad health reactions. Hopefully Nikki's one hive went away with no other reactions.

  • @sunlightconversions828
    @sunlightconversions828 6 годин тому +7

    Funny how so many commenters so badly want this to be an electric boat/lithium battery problem that they ignored the entire part of the video explaining how it wasn’t. Its just a plain old alternator and Lead acid problem.

  • @russmarkham2197
    @russmarkham2197 7 годин тому +3

    the Wynns have a great attitude whether they are on a canal boat or a cat. Things always go wrong on boats. If you don't enjoy fixing them, don't go sailing.

  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 6 годин тому +2

    It sounded like you said the throttle controls (even for the electrics) will only work if you have at least one of the start batteries enabled? That sounds like a serious design flaw on the part of H&H. The "yards birds" leaving the buffer battery disconnected after your time in Cebu was probably the start of the AGM failure. Hopefully you can take that as a (relatively) cheap lesson, ALWAYS double check the things yard workers do!

  • @laurieashley4306
    @laurieashley4306 7 годин тому +3

    Glad you made it safely!

  • @donsisco852
    @donsisco852 7 годин тому +2

    When I smell rotten eggs around my semi-truck, I know it’s time to check out my batteries.
    Great job getting to your destination safely!
    Can’t wait for your next adventure!

  • @leadman50
    @leadman50 7 годин тому +7

    8 years ago you left the land behind I almost can't believe it.

  • @sonnysoutdooradventures1791
    @sonnysoutdooradventures1791 7 годин тому +1

    I love watching your videos, if I was younger, I would give this life a try, but with the all the trouble you are having with a new boat I would be stressed out, I'm glad the company is standing by their product and work. keep up the good work and the videos coming.

  • @SM-ke6jq
    @SM-ke6jq 5 годин тому +2

    You should invest in a set of night vision goggles. They might come in handy when navigating at night close to land.

  • @tonib9261
    @tonib9261 7 годин тому +5

    Why would all the 12V batteries be tied together? Sure they can, but is is a good idea? Apollo 13 only survived a main bus B under volt because there was still a main bus A that had power. Separation is good.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 6 годин тому

      They may not be. But they're both charged from the house battery system.

  • @debbyschweighardt5810
    @debbyschweighardt5810 7 годин тому +1

    I don't know how you see the fads. With the waves, you barely see it at all.
    I had a cell phone and the battery swelled and literally pushed the back cover out. I didn't know the battery could explode. Needless to say, i have a new one now. I am so worried about you, looking at your swollen batteries. You kept your wits about you and sailed to safety. I think you two are amazing and courageous. I am old enough to be your mom and i am so very proud of you both.

  • @CFPVideoProductions
    @CFPVideoProductions 6 годин тому +1

    Assuming that you had an "over charging" situation, you need to try to find out where that came from. You have charging alternators on each engine. There are one or more charging converters. One maybe from the 48 volt system, another may be from shore power and you have solar power that may be charging the 12 volt system also. After finding that there no over voltage problems, I noticed 14.5 volt reading on one of your volt meter measurements. I would STRONGLY recommend replacing all three 12 volt batteries with Lithium. First of all, they have a BMS system on each that would prevent over charging. Second, I saw 14.5 volts on your volt meter. If that is your 12 volt readings on all chargers, you will be fine with lithium. Third, I would "ISOLATE" all three batteries from one another. for future safety reasons. One battery system problem will not bring down another. Eash engine alternator will only charge its own battery. Your 48 volt, shore power and solar would only charge the auxilliary battery. There are many ways of doing this. The easiest way is to put a 150 amp, or 300 amp switch on each battery connecting it to the orher batteries. Then turn off each switch. If you have problems, you will know exactly where the problem is and it will not bring that problem to the other battery systems. You could disconnect a problem battery and function that system from the other two systems.
    Don

  • @mauriceryton
    @mauriceryton 7 годин тому +3

    Purchasing a respirator might be an essential item now to protect yourselves. I use a high quality respirator in my workshop when using solvents and finishing products. Safety is paramount.

    • @gonewiththewynns
      @gonewiththewynns  7 годин тому +2

      Nikki mentions in the blog post that they usually have some aboard, but they haven't been able to find any since they purchased the boat.
      Curious Minion

    • @chartphred1
      @chartphred1 5 годин тому

      Might have to order online from EU or US ​@@gonewiththewynns

    • @mauriceryton
      @mauriceryton 5 годин тому +1

      @@gonewiththewynns paint stores.

  • @jimconner1028
    @jimconner1028 7 годин тому +3

    Pretty scary. Sounds like another redundant back-up system needs to be in place to prevent this. Maybe some sort of relay/voltmeter/breaker attached to the batteries themselves to prevent overcharging or shut down at a max temp setting.

    • @jlsinchina
      @jlsinchina 5 годин тому

      With all the fancy digital controllers, I can't understand why they don't have something on those engine batteries.??

  • @jamiluvvi6736
    @jamiluvvi6736 6 годин тому +1

    Redundant systems save the day always have at least two solutions of any single point of failure. Well Done!

  • @bunyipdan
    @bunyipdan 7 годин тому +6

    Think your gunna have to devote a bit of time in the future to explain this issue, mentioning thermal runaway has all the anti new tech troglodytes rattling their chains. There are a few questions......
    1. Are the engine starter batteries charged from a standard engine mounted alternator? (This would be preferable)
    2. If they are then default position for your starting batteries should be isolated, with a manual link override switch
    3. Do you have a independent (from engine) 48 - 12v battery charger linked to your 12v AGM’s? If so then this should be switchable.
    4. So......either your alternator on the running engine was over charging and both batteries were linked (which they probably should not have) and the problem wasn’t thermal runaway per say but over heating due to excessive input charge, leading to extreme evaporation of the electrolyte, causing expansion and cell failure and internal battery short circuiting.
    Or the 12v battery charger is faulty.
    5. You need to determine how the system is controlled and it’s default running settings ..... maybe more than the buffer battery was isolated? It sounds like you will need to revise your SOP’s for your battery switch set up, and try and work improving the system to make bulletproof.
    Glad everything worked out ok, I remember my first battery overheating event, it was first reported as a dead frog smell, cause the boat design had pedestal seat sockets that frogs used to hide in, so was quickly dismissed, as a temporary inconvenience that will clear soon. That was until I went fwd and noticed it myself and said hmmmm, not sure that’s dead frog, dug around and found an auxiliary battery overheating. If something’s doesn’t feel right ...... chances are somethings not right, always do your due diligence.

    • @latinpyro1287
      @latinpyro1287 5 годин тому +1

      Absolutely agree here, having the starter batteries linked obviously creates a single point of failure. If I were to guess the best mode of operation, they should normally be isolated and only charging off either the alternator on their respective engine, with a switch to combine them for self jump starting capability. They really got lucky that the tech left their buffer battery isolated accidentally otherwise they'd be looking at 3 failed AGMs and no way to start their engines. Which also begs the question of why there isn't some way on board to step down from their 48V system to 12V for emergency purposes such as this one, even if it was a portable transformer or something that had to be manually connected.

  • @docdurdin
    @docdurdin 7 годин тому +2

    I was worried there for a moment. The hurricanes here in Florida caused battery failure and fires in some electric cars. Thank God you got it under control beforehand. This whole electric boat experiment is going to be a big test for HH. Stay safe and enjoy your Island stay.

  • @greglight3745
    @greglight3745 8 годин тому +53

    Cutting edge technology, you deserve a refund !

  • @darylhorner7761
    @darylhorner7761 5 годин тому

    I cannot believe I have watched you for over 10 years! Crazy. Love your content and lifestyle...

  • @MrEricld1
    @MrEricld1 5 годин тому +1

    Glad to see you made it to port ok. Hopefully they will be able to sort out this electrical issue. For some odd reason , I keep thinking that there is a ground fault issue somewhere in the loop, and I bet, your fridge problem is a side effect of that issue. I would deffinately double check and test every electrical component on your boat. Safe sailing and smooth seas 😊

    • @MrEricld1
      @MrEricld1 5 годин тому

      P.S. With not only a new boat, but a new model of boat, it's going to be a really interesting and exciting first year of sailing it. H&H couldn't have a better pair of sailors at the helm working out all the issues and keeping it safe. Just think, all the future owners of this, and similar models of this boat will have you to thank for it. ❤

  • @cjg6364
    @cjg6364 7 годин тому +1

    Lite sport sailboats are great in low wind conditions but the flip side of that is how much they bob in the waves. That's one thing I've definitely noticed between the previous boat and this one - a lot more bobbing going on.

  • @rtj6874
    @rtj6874 7 годин тому +19

    Ummmm just me, but I'd be thinking "perhaps HH isn't the builder for me, perhaps I ought to be considering someone like Bearing."

    • @mjb2048
      @mjb2048 6 годин тому

      Perhaps you are right. Those starter batteries are NOT supposed to be tied together. That's an amateur mistake.

    • @Tetsaraku
      @Tetsaraku 5 годин тому +1

      Check out sailing Haldis. They took delivery of a Hallberg-Rassy 44 in Sweden and have now sailed the boat to France, making their way to the Mediterranean I think.
      😊Issues so far? Well, there was a small crack in one piece of wooden trim that was fixed at the factory before they left Sweden. There is something to be said about well established boat builders…

  • @davidsartin5708
    @davidsartin5708 6 годин тому

    WOW! That one scared me. 😲😲 I have been following your new electrical adventures and worrying about such an event. You guys handled it very well and hats off to H&H for being there. Please keep us posted about why it occurred. Good luck and safe travels from Houston, Texas. 🤠

  • @greggcoulter6008
    @greggcoulter6008 5 годин тому

    We were left hanging last week and wondering would the Wynn’s make it before the winds changed and this week an entirely new unexpected malfunction makes the passage even more complicated. Never a dull moment. Glad you were able to sort it out and make it to the marina safely. Jason mentioned a carbon dioxide meter but also maybe a respirator just to be safe you’re not breathing toxic fumes. Hopefully that doesn’t happen again but a respirator will come in handy for a lot of jobs. Until next week Wynn’s, enjoy some land time.

  • @MrJohnBos
    @MrJohnBos 6 годин тому +1

    Scary situation with the batteries. I'll bet you will install a temperature sensor and voltage/current sensors with the AGM start batteries. I never thought that a closed loop respirator might be useful on a boat, now I do.

  • @tcoiler
    @tcoiler 7 годин тому +4

    Glad you made it through ok. Adding my landlocked thoughts to the comments: Do you have some emergency scuba gear? If so, it might be better to keep that handy for situations where the breathing air is bad. At the very least, get some full-face respirators with filters for the fumes you encountered. H2S, H2S04, etc.
    Is it possible to use the prop to turn the diesel engine? Kind of an aquatic push-start for a car.

    • @smokindauberdoo4208
      @smokindauberdoo4208 6 годин тому

      A lot of diesels have a lever that releases compression and a handy crank

  • @paulcoba8154
    @paulcoba8154 7 годин тому +2

    Marinas/boat yards are few and far between in the Philippines. It's certainly not the country to be when breaking in a cutting edge untested sailboat. Hopefully things start going better for you.

  • @IEnigIMa
    @IEnigIMa 5 годин тому +1

    Wow. You guys handled that well. Such an incredibly beautiful and stylish vessel, but I must say though, through watching several sailing channels, some with the new purchase of their dream boats, it always seems to be the same unreliable issue you would hope to avoid when spending the crazy amounts on these boats. Unfortunately, I have been discouraged from even thinking about this lifestyle because of the constant problems. It would seem that the life balance is a bit off. I am a land yachter myself, land locked for sure, but I do love to travel and it’s a large continent, so I guess it’s a happy trade. I have been an equipment technician my whole life in aerospace and semiconductor, the equipment I work on runs in the millions of dollars, and yet I would still hesitate to take on the yachting lifestyle. I admire your patience and your passion and that alone is worth viewing your lovely channel. ❤

  • @maxnex7676
    @maxnex7676 7 годин тому +3

    Those sizzling swollen batteries should have been placed outside ready to be thrown overboard if they decided to self combust as no fire extinguisher would have the power to put them out.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 6 годин тому +1

      Lead acid batteries don't generally do that.

    • @CarryOnRTW
      @CarryOnRTW 6 годин тому

      Yeah, I think Jason was confused when he mentioned thermal runaway. That's a chemical reaction you might get on the Lithium's not on the 12V AGM starter batteries. All that needed to be done was kill the juice to the battery and it would stop boiling itself. Good idea for HH to tell them to use the buffer battery to start an engine.

  • @thomaspittock4018
    @thomaspittock4018 7 годин тому +2

    Glad you guys are ok prayers all will be fixed and you can again trust your home.

  • @mikeferguson2828
    @mikeferguson2828 5 годин тому +2

    exciting times for sure ! glad its getting sorted. i have an interconnect switch to start my diesels off the house bank if things go south... always good to have alternatives 😁

    • @CarryOnRTW
      @CarryOnRTW 5 годин тому

      It's these situations that will teach them stuff like this.

  • @carlthor91
    @carlthor91 6 годин тому +1

    You mentioned, in the email notification, not smelling the rotten egg smell. That is with lead acid batteries.
    Hopefully you got your smart regulators, and battery temperature sensors.
    Best wishes from Northern Canada.

  • @myself248
    @myself248 6 годин тому +1

    Hairspray is exactly what it smelled like, when my old Tripp-Lite UPS overcharged its battery. The smell woke me up and I was groggily stumbling around the house at 4am checking the bathrooms for a leaking hairspray can or something, and finally realized the smell was strongest in my bedroom, where the computer desk was. Only then did I notice the sizzle. I threw on some gloves and hustled the unit out and threw it in a snowbank.
    A couple years after that, my car's voltage regulator failed and it overcharged its battery. The thing straight-up exploded, sending acid spray forward out the grille where it blew back all over the hood and windshield. Initially I thought I'd run over a big stick or something, but I hadn't seen anything in the road, but how else to explain the boom? Finally when I went to wipe the droplets off the windshield and the wipers started melting into a black rubbery smear all over the glass, I realized it was battery acid.
    When I found a place to pull over (with a garden hose, to start diluting the acid before it ate the whole engine wiring harness), I recognized that same hairspray smell. I went through a whole box of baking soda, neutralizing and rinsing, neutralizing and rinsing, before the smell started to fade. It's a memory twice burned into my brain now, and I'm sure I'd recognize it much faster if it should ever happen again!

  • @drewsbenmad
    @drewsbenmad 6 годин тому +4

    It’s hard to believe they didn’t have a device installed to prevent overcharging this seems like a no brainer.

  • @andyweber8606
    @andyweber8606 6 годин тому +1

    Nice job of keeping your selves in a alert and thinking state vs panic. It would be nice to see a lessons learned someday. I’m sure HH had a few well we never thought of that moments. It seems to me you need a couple full mask/face shield style respirators, a chemically protective suite on board as well as a chemical burn kit. The amount of battery and chemicals in them is no joke. I had a lead acid battery over charge many years ago and it smelled like rancid eggs. I couldn’t eat any form of egg afterwards for months due to the smell.

  • @gpl422sda
    @gpl422sda 7 годин тому +1

    Speaking of audiobooks The Keeper of the Bees is a surprising book not at all what you might expect. I listensd to it many times and enjoyed it even so.

  • @lentongrovetrust5201
    @lentongrovetrust5201 6 годин тому +1

    Thank you for eight years of entertainment, you allow this old man live out his dreams now that the bones won’t allow ocean sailing anymore, that is apart from my wife who refuses to sail.

  • @AIRDOODOO
    @AIRDOODOO 7 годин тому +3

    Well done Wynns.

  • @chantalmathews56
    @chantalmathews56 6 годин тому +1

    Know there are advantages and disadvantages of anything, however, my dad always said the more complex something is, the more moving parts... then it is also more difficult to fix yourself. There is something to be said for reliable basic mechanics. I love Jason and Nikki's positive attitude, however, I suspect off the camera there is more going on, needing to edit themselves for the public and maybe even having just bought a boat from HH. I would be cussing like a pirate with a new expensive boat!! :D Yes there are kinks to be worked out, but I'm sure this is getting frustrating for you guys. I've been watching some of your older sailing videos, and you all have evolved in your film making quality. Glad you are out of the cyclone area. And as always, the strength of your relationship is admirable, especially with all you go through together. Much stronger than any boat... Fair winds Wynns....

  • @toddjones1403
    @toddjones1403 7 годин тому +1

    Proper planning prevents poor performance. Be safe…we want to see you next week!

  • @followyourdreamlifeinawinn275
    @followyourdreamlifeinawinn275 5 годин тому

    😮I’m feeling the stress just sitting watching, great work you two,

  • @fredbear2648
    @fredbear2648 7 годин тому +1

    Pro tip, the rope connecting the bottom of the fenders going to a cleat is to pull them all up/ lower them at the same time.

  • @PatriciaStevens-rv6kn
    @PatriciaStevens-rv6kn 7 годин тому +23

    Too many problems with this HH boat!

  • @jeromehebert3184
    @jeromehebert3184 6 годин тому +1

    that was scary and stressful; just stay calm, go back to basics of sailing, and take your time without freaking out and you made it. You made it look easy ;-)

  • @numberoneduchess
    @numberoneduchess 6 годин тому +1

    You may be a bit too kind and understanding, and you should not be having so many problems with a new boat. I hope all goes well this week.😀 I'll see you next Sunday.

  • @enoynaert
    @enoynaert 5 годин тому +1

    I am surprised there isn't circuitry that prevents over charging. It also sounds like you should carry a spare AGM battery that you charge independently.

  • @Allen-by6ci
    @Allen-by6ci 6 годин тому +1

    Scary episode just in time for Halloween

  • @RobertPirtle-q9g
    @RobertPirtle-q9g 6 годин тому +1

    I can’t wait to see what made that happen. I had it happen on my boat. It was because one battery was junk and caused the alternator to overcharge. After that I ran them separately with a battery switch.