Your sentence is good. Ground news has a heavy false enlightened centrist bias in and of itself. People should know that. That's the people who created it. The way their comparison system works, creates false equivalencies between far left and far right. It tends not to put up credible news stories from far left sources.
Am wondering if I am alone in wondering about the validity of Ground News. In the first instance, it should be fairly apparent as to where a publications political bias lies. Secondly, those biases seem to me to be diminished by the acquiescence to established neoliberal economic values, so that while The Guardian may be progressive in terms of liberal values, it does not deviate that much from the Telegraph with regard to economic democracy. In short, fuck the establishment media, and the establishment they represent.
I agree with your points in this video, but it was gross of you to say Angela Carini was "weaponizing White woman tears." Weaponizing implies intent to manipulate, when it's just as likely, if not more so, that Carini was just _upset about losing._ Crying is a natural response to intense emotions. It does not require an active desire to manipulate.
@@sarahshock6805i attribute no malice to carini considering her attitude and words after the fact, but the unfortunate reality is that her tears _were_ weaponized against khelif, even if carini wasnt the one to do so.
If JKR really cared about women at the Olympics, she would have spent all that time tweeting about the r*pist allowed to compete instead of tweeting about Imane.
It's a lot like how there was complete radio silence from her right after Roe v. Wade was overturned in the US. She only said something after several weeks of people calling her out.
I thought sports was a celebration of people with "weird biological advantages" anyway? Michael Phelps is a freak of nature and he's one of the most celebrated Olympians of all time
You could make the same argument for Usain Bolt too. His fast twitch muscle to height ratio is abnormally high. Usually tall lean guys can't utilise their long stride length enough to sprint fast because their fast twitch muscle ability is proportionate. Not so for Mr Bolt. He literally had a genetic advantage.
Yeah, like making the cut for professional competitions/the olympics is a "cream of the cream" sorta deal where only "the best™" get picked. Which.... Statistically speaking, will be people with some kind of biological advantage (or people whose advantage is being able to financially afford starting young/a coach that fits them/tailored training/etc). In the olympics, a tennis player does not look like a weight lifter does not look like a swimmer does not look like a runner, etc. Bodies aren't made equal! Genetics are diverse! It's not a bug, it's a feature of competitions where 200 out of 200000 athletes get to duke it out, that the competitors will have advantages. Alas. Women can only be thin, white, western-version attractive with a single strand of hair growing anywhere that's not their head or eyebrows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ otherwise it's not fair, i guess. If you don't look like a prepubescent girl with huge tits you're not a woman /s
@@valentine.58 Yup. That's the whole deal right there; if white people win, it's because of their chosen virtues (eg "look how hard Michael Phelps trains!", which is true and great, but also true of every other Olympian and elite athlete at every level). If racialized people beat white people, it's because they're born with an "unfair" advantage. White people get all the credit, everyone else gets all the blame, because the assumption is that the "proper" state of things is white people winning because they're inherently superior. White people can only lose if someone else cheats (sound like any political party you know?). Anti-trans bigotry is just white-supremacism in a new hat, part a billion.
But that doesn’t make her incorrect. There is a strong possibility that both those fighters are intersex males, who were wrongly identified as females at birth, and therefore should not be competing with females.
But Imane was a mask off moment. Transphobia isn't about trans people, it's about enforcing gender standards for binary cis people. We're sort of an afterthought at best, even when they think their hatred is all about us.
People were very against imane when they they imane was trans. A lot of people softened their stance when they found out imane is supposedly dsd. That should be eye opening. People generally understand acyual medical conditions. People also generally do not agree wirh trans ideology.
The idea of forcing a woman to take and reveal biological tests publically is hideous and anti-feminist already, but Rowling seriously put Imane Khelif in danger. Algeria is not a friendly country to trans or intersex people and trying to "out" her could have had her arrested or medically harmed. Even if Imane Khelif was a trans woman or intersex, she had every right to keep that personal information
What makes me so sad is that Imane Kalif was told she shouldn’t compete by ppl in her life because boxing “isn’t what women do” and so called feminists are basically saying the same thing: you succeeded so you must be a man.
Women from Africa, South Asia, East Asia, and non-white athletes are constantly questioned about their female identity. Questioned white women's gender is rare. "This makes the gender testing system not only sexist and discriminatory, but also racist and ethnocentric." said Michele Donnelly, an associate professor in the Department of Sports Management ( Canada ) Better know what I'm doing, all the time.
@@sarazworld3811 And Rowling as the gall to call herself a feminist. It’s funny how it’s only non-white athletes that get these sort of accusations. Almost as if the entire system is stack non white women in particular.
The "elevated testosterone" thing absolutely kills me. I'm a cis woman. I don't sport, not even a little bit. Hell, I barely exercise (working on it for health reasons). I am not muscular. AND YET I have elevated testosterone and facial hair due to a little something called PCOS. I'm so tired of hearing about beastly hormones and how these intrusive, humiliating tests can supposedly suss out a person intersex or trans status. As often as these people like to use "biology" as a battering ram, they sure do oversimplify it beyond recognition.
Yep, same here. Very happily Cis-Woman - PCOS, 5'10, broad shouldered, strong jaw, insulin resistant, "apple shaped" and probably incapable of having kids. (There are several dozen not great contraception decisions in my teens (UK person, so 16 is our age of consent) that says I should have gotten pregnant, yet didn't) It's posited that my existence is evolutionary advantage for Group survival. Yet I suspect if I'd have ever gone an athletic route, I'd have confronted all these issues. If I'd have been able to remain thin, I suspect I'd have made a great model due to my height and lack of angles that get in the way of the way that clothes drape! (Whole 'nother rant) I've been called Sir in shops where people haven't seen my face yet on more than one occasion, and was asked once if I were a "Transvestite" in less enlightened times as well.
Hi sister of high testosterone blood lol, those people just don’t know what their own argument is half the time, and absolutely ignore even “normal people” like you and me can have those same abnormal hormone elevations for other reasons than taking pills, truth is they don’t know much about biology and what is in their mind “basic biology” is sometimes concepts or research even actual biologists fight over but they like to ignore that part because it sure is inconvenient when they’re trying to sound smart
I'm Afab WITHOUT PCOS and hell if I can't pass like a man. Basically no breasts, defined jaw and thick brows. Even got a touch of a 'stache and extremely hairy legs if I let it grow. If I was a celeb I would be a "transvestigator" wet dream.
Me an arab cis woman who looks like Iman and was surrounded by cis women who look like her growing up, seeing people accuse her of being trans because she doesnt have white features: 😐
A textbook example on how transphobia hurts all women honestly. I was so upset, not just because they are lying, but because such lies and rumors can literally endanger her. Speaking as an Egyptian, our region just is not safe at all for rumors like that to fester. She could get hurt, and it would be all over a lie.
I was under the impression that it wasn't due to the fact she's lacking white features (What are 'white' features?) but due to the fact she looks like she was designed from Day 1 to punch other women through the wall. She's a genetic abnormality that seemed designed for combat sports. The fact J.K's so high on her own farts she can't bother to check who she's mislabeling aside, I saw the comments as distinctly commenting on masculinity, not 'whiteness.' What's this obsession with race?
What's even more weird than saying is I have also seen white women particularly older white women with the same type of facial features so I have no idea what Rowling and all these other white TERFS are talking about.
@@Alice-Mayor, they simply dismiss you as irrelevant and unimportant. Students For Life president Kristin Hawkins has had a number of "guests" on her show who screech "You're either 46 XX or 46 XY! That's it!" When I point out that I am neither, IF I am answered at all, I am told I don't count because my condition only counts for 1:5000 live births.
@@nglchff Yeah it drives me crazy. I tell people that regardless of their opinion on trans people, sex is biologically not a binary, that is a categorical, biological fact: sex is not binary. And get told 'oh, but those people are so rare'. No rarer than red hair (depending how you define intersex). What they mean is 'yeah but I'm talking about the people I think are normal'. But even among perisex people, there's a spectrum of sex traits that have about as much variation within the two groups as between them. I know I'm preaching to the choir here it just makes me so mad.
I'm half-Egyptian and grew up brown in a white Texas suburb. The go-to insult for a while in junior high was that I was a "transformer: more than meets the eye" (because apparently I looked "manly" at age 12). I hated it then and I hate it even more now as I watch Imane Khelif and other POC women and girls go through this. The attacks on Imane are absolutely racist and sexist.
YES! (haven't watched the vid yet) and SO many ppl are comparing Imane to high testosterone women and sharing their experiences with PCOS, while women with high T are still women (always), in my opinion Imane doesn't look "manly" or like she has high T levels. she just doesn't look white/european!
I'm really weirded out how bullying a person and questioning their hormonal status is supposedly helping women where instead women in beachvolleyball are still pressured into wear really revealing clothing.
Ditto women's gymnastics. While the IOC has gotten marginally better (the German team was able to wear ankle length leotards in Tokyo), in national gymnastics, not wearing the standard leotard is an automatic deduction to your score. Little kids and young girls are forced to wear extremely revealing clothing for no good reason. Men are allowed to wear pants and shorts, women aren't. Ridiculous
@@AskMia411and even still others are body shamed and slut shamed if they're "too" full figured in those leotards and ppl sexualize them! (Katelyn ohashi)
@@AskMia411 I'm genuinely amazed this is still a thing. I mean I'm not because misogyny. When I was a kid in school , we were forced to wear those comical 'gym knickers' that revealed full thigh. Even in the middle of British winter they'd force teen girls outside to play sports in these tiny short shorts, and while we froze our arses off, we'd be told "you'll warm up once you get running". Meanwhile the boys were allowed to wear full length tracksuit bottoms outside during winter lol. It wasn't until ltierally as I was leaving high school that girls were FINALLY allowed to wear normal shorts all year, and full length bottoms during winter. You'd think I was talkling about the 70s, but nope, this was dureeing the 90s and very early 00s lol.
@@Spamhard My mom wasn't allowed to wear pants to school until high school. Once in elementary school they were going on a field trip to the zoo, and they'd been told they could wear pants/shorts. My mom and aunt got new clothes and everything for it. They got to school and were told by their (female) teacher that their shorts were too short. It was a small town, so they ran back home and changed, only to be told again their shorts were too short and had to run back again. Nearly missed the bus to the zoo because of the arbitrary opinion of their teacher. They also couldn't wear pants in winter and had to wear skirts with tights. It's crazy to me that some people on the far right want to go back to those times.
Even if you take the Matt Walsh argument at face value, Khalif has lost 9 times according to her record, and has finished 30th in a women's tournament. This means that if she is a man, she lost to women, thus proving that women can compete with men at a high level of athletic ability. Which implies that everything the anti-trans bigots have to say about the matter is pointless. There's a reason these guys never prove their bs, by challenging a women's UFC fighter, or pro boxer...
That is an on going issue regardless of the sport. Lia Thomas winning one race was enough to get the outrage machine going to the extent that to compete now in swimming you need to have transitioned before you go through puberty.
Multiple times in history the reason why "we have to give women their own competition or they would never win against men, it's unfair" is because they can totally win against men and have won against them, and this made the men upset that all their beliefs about being better, stronger, faster is a bunch of baloney. Inevitably, a women's competition is made because a single woman can win against dozens of men.
Just a quick note: there is a difference between Arabic and Arab. Arabic is a language, while Arab refers to the people. So there's no such thing as Arabic women, but rather Arab women.
The olympics do test men for high testosterone levels to prevent steroid abuse etc, they also test for loads of other metabolites etc. people competing in the men’s competition at the Olympics are way less likely to be androgen insensitive and would therefore receive roughly equivalent benefits from artificially increased testosterone levels. Where as androgen insensitive women may have less changes from having normal male levels of testosterone than another woman would have from going up 1/10th of that.
The idea that the Olympics, the sporting event NAMED after Mt. Olympus, the mountain where the gods of the Greeks lived, is somehow Christian is hilarious to me.
It's a bit of a cultural ship-of-Theseus. The Olympics are an iconic component of classical Greek culture. Western culture frames itself as a successor to -ancient Grome- classical Roman and Greek culture. Western culture also frames itself as inherently Christian. Therefore, all of its components must also be Christian. Therefore, the Olympics are Christian, and all those hundreds of oxen sacrificed in the middle of the ancient Olympics were basically being sacrificed to Jesus.
Don't you love Christian logic? This is why they want to defund schools. As a former Christian I can attest the second you get even a little bit of critical thinking skills you stop being Christian
Was an absolute pleasure to collaborate with Jessie on this video. As an Algerian trans woman myself, this whole situation has been really weird for me. Hope y'all like the video!
Excellent job, thank you for sharing. I dont know if people will ever understand or fully accept transgender folks, but your small part in this vid is making a big difference towards baby steps that the world is taking now. Stay strong and hug each other often!! You gals are great!!
You were great. I did not expect an Algerian woman to be featured. I really wanted to hear what actual Algerians think on the subject and not just white English and american people
My issue with the people pointing out how "masculine" Imane looks is like, so what??? Women come in all different shapes and sizes, just like men, and yes, gendered sex traits very often overlap and subvert each other in any variety of ways. It's bizarre to me that the average person can witness so many, many different body types on every gender and still think that body types are totally black-and-white.
If only people just took a second to think about how much makeup, trimming, exercise, tailoring, and other stuff goes into wedging apart the genders visually
Yes! And it should, even if it didn't impact all of us, which it does. Knowing that people are discouraged from being who they are should sadden everyone. We all deserve better. We all deserve the freedom to be and develop who we are freely and with support and encouragement. But even if we were all stoic sociopaths and we didn't care how anyone feels it still hurts everyone, including the transphobes. It limits how we develop, it limits our productivity, happiness, kindness, well being, economies, progress, safety, freedoms. It makes use weak by dividing us, and by ripping talent from the total talent pool we would all benefit from, and by encouraging and normalising toxic behaviour that discourages us from understanding ourselves and others which would help all of us to more easily deal with things like emotions of grief or happiness and growing toward a healthier and happier future for us and our children and shames us for feeling anything at all instead. The same goes for racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.. It's tragic how it harms individual persons who all deserve better, but it's bizarre how it's so overlooked and seen as a worthwhile cost to the bigots, who pay the lowest costs and do the most damage and see the damage and costs as a useful tool to push people into the sunk cost fallacy so they'll more easily think that there must be some truth to it if has such an impact on societies and the bigots are willing to destroy it for their goals of control over others. And what I get from people around me is:" I don't want to hear or think about it - it makes me sad." Really? That's how they want to encourage us to deal with hardship of others that impact all of our lives? We need MORE awareness and pushback. More awareness means a more sturdy and secure basis to push back from. We don't deal with cancer by not thinking about it and that makes people sad. WTF is wrong with people?
I'm a cis woman with broad shoulders and large feet....I hate transphobes. I particularly hate whiny ah's who loudly complain that they can't use a washroom because a "man is in there" because they see my feet under a stall door and they have obviously never had to find cute shoes for size 11 feet that aren't either very masculine or are meant for flashy drag performers. I grew up feeling like a monster, which I do still feel around petit friends and sisters and shorter bfs. While Im sure my size has helped me when I've been assaulted....being able to bench press a large guy off of me or walking away from a punch to the face is a crappy consultation prize. Transphobia hurts everyone. Everyone should be able to feel comfortable in their own skin.
They're weird perverts for looking at who is in the stalls. I'd also guess that in many ways, your personal style is particularly elegant, because you (very unfairly) never had the luxury of walking into just any store and finding something that made you feel pretty. (or not! as long as you're comfortable, and I hope you can get over the childhood scars someday)
As a fellow cis woman who's been called a man ever since toddler-hood, I relate. This has always been about misogyny. Not that I'm at all discounting the transphobia behind it all, just that any masc or non white woman (or one who even slightly doesn't fit into the narrow binary) has lived this same crap their entire lives. I'm always surprised when I see lesbians, especcially butches, engage in this level of transphobia because they've SURELY faced this same crap themselves.
You having that happen to you reminded me of the fact that transphobes will say that trans people (or in your case, a cis person who doesn't fit their narrow view of bodies) make them feel less safe and that we "perv on" them, when they'll literally follow us around or attack us and peek into/under our stalls???
It's honestly shocking, these people accusing us of redefining 'woman' to include people who identify as women, yet they redefine 'woman' to mean 'feminine attractive fertile peoples of XX chromosomes' and 'man' to be 'not woman'
Oh and it gets worse because they also define woman as "a man who isn't toxic, agressive and masculine enough" but only when able to be used as ridicule to hurt said person, if said person later identifies as a woman then they are labeled as a man again. They make it so confusing.
"man" being defined as simply "not women" by these ppl is so real. I once joked about a mythical third gender that only existed for the purpose of discriminating against women who don't align with gender norms, but nah, bigots are never _that_ creative
They're not even that coherent or consistent. There's not a fascist out there who would qualify a person they found sexually-attractive as "not a woman", because that would make them "gay". To them, a woman is whoever it's convenient for them to label a "woman" in the moment (note here about how any fascist is always 2 seconds away from telling you at length about how "age of consent" laws are way too restrictive, specifically in "adult men r*ping young girls" terms). Fascism; all the power, none of the responsibilities.
@@RiveroftheWither I think to them your gender is a gift given to you at birth that you are morally obligated to keep as you age, and if you do something unbefitting of your gender, you forfeit it, earning you disrespect and ridicule. The problem is, if you actually REJECT that gender, rather than lose it by force, it means that now your gender isn't something to be REVOKED to punish you, it's something to be IMPOSED on to punish you. So they HAVE to change their definition on the spot in order to continue being able to ridicule you.
As an enby hijabi muslim thanks for acknowledging the issues surrounding hijab is nuanced, and really depends on the culture and government muslim afabs grew up in. I really appreciate this. Awesome video as always!
It actually seems to be the other way around. He's asserting that intersex people that clearly do break the norm of the sex binary do not count, because "there are no exceptions". As if it's a magical rule set on a stone tablet by God.
Because they never cared about her, just that they could use her as a mouth piece. Then the mouth piece started talking on her own and couldn't be manipulated.
Yup. I read an interesting piece on how women of her ethnic group in Italy are often derided and mocked as “too masculine”, so I imagine she’s familiar with this kind of bullying.
Yeah, it kind of felt weird how uncharitable they were to her in this video with comments like 'weaponizing white woman tears'. Like she had been consciously trying to manipulate people into going after Imane instead of just having a genuine emotional control fail and crying because her Olympic dreams went up in smoke.
She apologized for not shaking her hand, but not for previously liking that racist ass cartoon portraying imane as a beast. Those tears were 100% calculated. Fuck her. @@mizu7662
There needs to be a long discussion on how the confluence of racism and transmisogyny forces Black and Brown women to have to overperform femininity just to be considered women and the backlash they get from white women who say they are reinforcing gender stereotypes by doing so. Its a lose-lose situation where in order to be recognized as women we have to over do it and by overdoing it end up being vilified for that as well!
Same thing happens with trans women, they keep us all down by keeping us in a constant state of stress and anxiety. It really is a lose-lose situation.
@@catcacheri totally agree and more vids are better! but i think the current vid we are commenting on has done that somewhat. No? I never connected the dots from transphobia to colonialism and misogyny, for instance, so this vid indeed did some heavy lifting. Hugs!!
Olutinatti made a good video five months ago she's a black immigrant abolitionist lawyer out of NY. Highly recommend it. Her content is great and pulls in a lot of other black and poc voices. Also I'm a black nonbinary trans woman I often can't tell the difference between misogynoir and transmisognoir. They overlap enough to be the same circle. And while i tend to present along a femme way I'm genderfluid and tend to do so in ways that get me thought as sapphic or non conforming... Ie some kind of queer woman. Hell being too femme gets you flack sometimes. The line in the sand is entirely arbitrary and it's simpler to just do my own thing and wade through it. 😅 Mind you I'm autistic so a lot of gender social norms and the way others perceive me seem whack or hard to discern in real time, patriarchy aside, but that's a whole nother conversation.
So I feel the need to mention this, because bad reporting from English media has caused a lot of misinformation: Khelif is not "suing" Rowling and her actions towards her are not a lawsuit. It was reported that way in American and British media because neither of those countries understand how French Civil law. You can find some better coverage in Canadian sources (because Quebec uses Civil law, most of those newspapers have people on the payroll who understand it). What Khelif did is better described as a ciminal complaint. In short, she went to a criminal prosecutor, said "these people commited these crimes against me" and now that prosecutor is investigating. This matters, because the outcome is very different. When people hear "lawsuit", they tend to think of things like FOX paying almost a billion to Dominion. In reality, if prosecuted, the outcome here will likely only be a fine in the tens of thousands of Euros-but it also carries the possibility of prison time. And makes the fact she is tweeting again even dumber, because the UK has extradition treaties with France.
A fundamental aspect of TERF "feminism" is ignoring or even denouncing intersectionality. And that means only the misogyny issues that directly affect white, middle class, able bodied, Christian or Christian-passing women "count."
As someone with a BS, MS, and ~10 years of experience in a lab focusing on hormonal differences, can confirm they stopped at BLOKS and never made it to Legos
@@bore-aliss 🤣 Okay, that's advanced alright. Want me to complicate things further with some quantum field mechanics? We're all emergent from fundamental physics! We're all connected by those fields! And separated on those fields by particles, but also connected to each other by those particles which is how your entire arm moves when you move your arm and not just one particle and leaving the rest behind :p That would be so awkward 🤣"Don't move too fast, or you'll disintegrate!" :p But on the hormones, I think they're fascinating and it's weird to me how little is understood by doctors, like the mention of the effects of dropping T-levels as opposed to the effect of a low T-level. And it shouldn't be too hard to figure that out, right. With completely different hormones I was once tested for two weeks to see if I had hypoglycemia because I had serious mental issues because of how awful I feel when my blood sugar drops. I kept a diary because I didn't think they were looking for the right things. I was in a room with several other people and we had a lot of fun and we all went our own ways and did our own things and sometimes chat and joke. This was when I was told to just eat normally for a week to see how my body responds to a normal diet. The day I had to stop eating I felt horrible and my mind kept telling me that those people that I had fun with for a week didn't like me and ignored me because they preferred to not have me around, which I knew was demonstrably false, but my mind kept telling me that anyway. I think it took a day or two for my blood sugar to level out and when that happened I felt weak in my body, but happy as ever, and I joked and had fun, stole a wheelchair and did wheelies in it in and around the hospital. Then a young woman was brought in and her blood sugar was waaaaaay too high and they injected her with insuline and told her that it was a lot and it would bring down the blood sugar FAST and that she would probably feel horrible when the blood sugar was dropping. And I was like, THAT! That is my entire problem! There is nothing wrong with me, and random nurses know that it's normal to feel awful when the blood sugar drops. Some people get cranky, others like me get super insecure. Heck, there are commercials on TV that play on the awful feeling billions of people have when the blood sugar drops, and they turn to monsters and then they get a Snickers, and they're fine. (And I actually had Snickers as quick emergency snacks at home for years because it's a mix of sugar and protein, which raises the blood sugar fast with the sugar and keeps it up with the proteins for a while until the next meal.) After two weeks the tests were done and I went to the specialist and she told me I don't have hypoglycemia. I said that I knew that and that I feel horrible when my blood sugar drops. She told me to see a shrink about that. Zero acknowledgement from the hormone specialist that it's normal to feel awful when your blood sugar drops. How? Zero advise on keeping a check on my blood sugar and how I feel and fixing that by taking in some sugar and slower calories. I get that I also needed cognitive behavioural therapy to deal with my automatic thoughts, but that doesn't solve the problem I have, a problem that had ruined my life for over 30 years, to simply understand that my body is more sensitive than most and responds more intense than most and that I can stop my mind from gaslighting me and unjustifiably telling me that people hate me by simply taking in some sugar, or preferably get ahead of that and eat some slower burning calories. It's such common knowledge that advertisers use it to sell snacks. And a medical specialist just ignores it. That's f'ing weird to me. At least I figured it out and it completely flipped my life from being a locked up victim who blames himself and tells himself he deserves to feel like crap because he is crap, to being actually happy and enthusiastic and having people around who are stunned and as much in tears as I am to see who I am now as opposed to being locked up in my mind with little to no interaction with people around me. And it's not like it's so complicated to research the effects of hormones and rising or dropping hormone levels. It's just largely ignored by medical specialists and we're told we're not right in the head and we just need therapy. Except when it comes to excluding trans people, then all of a sudden everyone is an expert and T-levels are the be all and end all of having an unfair advantage over cis women and chromosomes are the gender you are for some reason, but we're also not just biological machines because god. I don't know which hormones make my brain feel like it's warped upside down, in a twist, and inside out when people are like that, but wow, that is some next level lack of self awareness and cognitive dissonance. It's almost impressive villainous behaviour.
@@1I1-III1 Pointing out that biology IS complicated isn't bad faith. Here, i have some homework for you: Educate yourself on sea-snails and the direction of the swirl of their shells (clockwise or counter-clockwise). What factors play into the offspring of a clockwise shell snail having counter-clockwise shells? Sounds basic? I promise you it's anything but. And that's just snail shells
The TV reboot show, on her part, is entirely to erase Emma Watson, Rupert Grint, and Daniel Radcliffe for being against her anti-trans bigotry. It's an impossible task but I would liken it to her "reclaiming" the franchise from the actual stars of the movies.
I'm wondering if they'll cast a black actress to play Hermione and if they'll faithfully adapt everyone telling her that she's dumb for caring about slavery
It's honestly a little sad how hard she's clinging to the franchise. It makes me think that she isn't confident in her ability to create another renowned work. Harry Potter was all she had and she's wringing every last drop out of it that she can.
@@gem9535 And after the wet fart that were the Robert Galbraith books. Which let's face it wouldn't have sold at all if she actually committed to the bit like did Stephen King did with the Richard Bachman books.
It will likely backfire. What are the chances she'll manage to find three young actors that within a few years won't support trans rights as most younger people do? At 12 or whatever age they'll be, trans rights and TERF-dom aren't things they know or care about. Give it 5 years and she'll be in a pissing match with the new cast too.
I just want to say that ever since women were allowed to compete in sports there were women "accused" of being male. Ewa Klobokowska who was a great athlete was stripped from all her medals and was banned from competing for "failing gender tests" and a year later she gave birth. No one ever apologised to her and her career was ruined. Whenever woman is exceptional at sport she is being transvestigated.
I think she might have had her medals given back eventually after they were taken from her but uh if she did it was 40 years later or something, without really an apology I might be thinking about someone else another similar thing happened to though
Some of my favorites are The Enchanted Forest Chronicles and Mairelon the Magician books from Patricia C Wrede, The Dragon Riders of Pern series from Anne McCaffrey, the old Magic the Gathering novels that came out between the Tempest and Alara blocks, the Joust series by Mercedes Lackey, and the Dresden Files Books from Jim Butcher. Though that last series is more modern noir with magic than classical fantasy. For sci-fi Douglas Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series is a must-read. I haven't gotten around to it, but I'm always hearing that everything from Terry Pratchett is gold.
The thing that bothers me the most about the whole trans Accusations is that it shows the lack of a f**k they give because they changed the word trans. In order For Imane Khelif to be trans in the most accepted definition she would have had to be Identified as male at birth then become a woman. Did her Parents lie to the doctors or something? If the only way to tell she is a "man" is by her chromosomes, then they can't define what a male is anymore, let alone a man. It's hypocrisy that I hope get sued the F**k out of because Im sick of this.
The transphobes are also going back and forth, sometimes in the course of just minutes, as to whether they consider chromosomes or natal anatomy definitive (it's actually neither -- they consider their own declarations of divine intent definitive, but they like to pretend otherwise). Transphobes will demand that you be banned from any platform for suggesting that they might not consider cis women with CAIS (who have at least one Y chromosome) women...but now they're _also_ insisting that sex/gender is entirely defined by chromosomes, so they're doing the thing that they screamed libel any time anyone suggested that they might consider doing.
The minute this stuff with Imane began, I mentioned to my friends that 'biological woman' will become shorthand for 'woman enough'. And we are witnessing it in real time
Knowing her chromosomes (if they're even XY) wouldn't magically turn her into a male either, she would still be female with some hormonal condition and XY chromosomes. Her chromosomes might be male, but that is not the only thing that determine sex characteristics and intersex XY female assigned are still referred to that way unless they legally change their gender marker.
I see all these people insisting "if you have a Y chromosome, you're a man, that's what it means to be a man, that's what manhood is" and I'm like, okay, fine, you win. Yes, there is a natural binary: people who have Y chromosomes and people who don't. Now please explain to me why that determines who in our society is allowed to wear lipstick.
@@IndigoViolentThose people never seem to understand that cis women with XY chromosomes exist due to a genetic disorder, nor do they ever acknowledge any intersex or atypical chromosomal typing. Of course, it's always people who only have an understanding of science below the high school level...
I just wanna add that the measuring of testosterone and saying you are not a woman or can’t play in a women’s sport if you have more testosterone is also ableism. PCOS and other conditions that cause higher testosterone are disabilities. They meet the legal definition of disability. Many Intersex conditions meet the legal definition of disability because of the extent they can affect your life. This is such an example of how ableism,racism, homophobia and even Islamaphobia are all interconnected.
male athletes are allowed any amount of naturally produced testosterone, any length of arms, any physical advantage that is not provably from doping or other cheating. women are scrutinized to ensure they still meet the strict societal requirements of “feminine” more than to ensure fairness. the assumption the women’s playing field needs to be “scientifically” bounded is based on the assumption all women are weak and unable to compete in the way men do.
Individual diagnoses/conditions do not get recognized as disabilities (there are a few exceptions). Instead it is based on how the individual is affected by the diagnoses and so it is determined on a case by case basis. There is a reason for this as some conditions, like depression, generally are not impactful enough to substantially limit your daily activities. However, sometimes those conditions can get bad enough, such as depression, where they do significantly impact your daily activities. Another reason for defining disability like this is for individuals with multiple health conditions that individually would not be significantly impairing but combined they add up to being greater than the sum of their parts. This aligns with the social model of disability which is the preferred model by disability groups and advocates.
The thing that gets me is that even if Khalif were trans, doesn't the fact that she's not dominating against women prove she'd have no unfair advantage?
True that, but the advantage doesn't matter. A lot of sports are dominated by genetic advantages and transphobes don't shed a tear for those. The problem for them isn't the advantage, it's the fact that there's a trans person existing.
iirc, trans women (on HRT) have been allowed to compete in the ABA Women’s Division since its inception in the 1980s. Not a single trans woman has, as of yet, won the championship title. Over the course of the 40+ years the ABAWD has been active, only two trans women have even gotten close, but were ultimately beat out by their (cis) opponents.
Sports is about having inherent advantages over your opponent. Michael Phelps has an unusually large arm span and his body doesn’t produce as much lactic acid which leads to more endurance. Literally nobody says he shouldn’t compete. Their arguments for “fairness” is so friggin disingenuous. I don’t really like the argument “trans women should compete because they don’t always win or often lose.” They should compete because they’re women in the sport that have worked hard to get where they are like just like cis women- full stop.
Walsh saying there "are no exceptions" to the gender binary so reminded me of Agent Smith in The Matrix saying "You believe that you are special. That the rules do not apply to you."
Hey, that trilogy has ONE GREAT SCENE. Jacob and Newt meeting Queenie. Super sweet, more than a little sexy. But other than that, yeah, those films are genital fungus-level bad. Or so I hear. I only saw the first one.
After the seventh book was published, I joked once that she should try to avoid getting high on her success, lest she end up writing James Potter and the Phantom Menace (this was back when everyone hated the Star Wars prequels). And then she ended up doing just that.
@@LexYeen That would explain why she thought basing the entire finale of this book series on figuring out who owns a stupid wand at the last minute was a good idea.
I'm trans, I'm in the worst headspace of my life, I might get end up homeless, I want to hit the escape button - but trans people existing and making stuff and being creative is probably the biggest thing putting meadow-fed breath into my lungs right now. 🏳️⚧️💚
I’m so sorry you are having a terrible time. You have value, just as you are. Your existence matters. You have worth. It’s brave to put your feelings out into the world and to live your life as your authentic self and I am proud of you for doing it. Be safe and please have a mom hug from me.
I'm from UT and recently we kicked out a wicked woman from a school board because she kept insisting that certain high school girls where trans. While the article didn't show the student in question it showed her parents and you can see that her mother is a tall Scandinavian woman with a strong jaw. So my assumption was that poor girl was picked on for being tall with a strong jaw like her mother. I am an italian afab and so its really easy for me to grow facial hair. I've been thinking of no longer waxing and plucking. If our identity is based on our chins, so be it. I'll wear my scruff with pride.
My gf has dark hair and a little bit of facial hair. Well, i mean we all have but you can see it because of the dark hair....you get my point. It doesn't bother me. What bothers me a lot though is her family mocking her for it on occasions. What i wouldn't give to tell her mum to just shut the f up about it and worry about her own stuff. But i know my gf woul hate that so i bite my tounge and try to change topics when it comes up or act clueless "Oh? Never really noticed. I tend to look into her eyes, not the corner of her mouth" or whatever She's the most beautiful person with the most beautiful soul i've ever met and no amount of body hair could ever change that. The only person who's allowed to criticize anyone's body is me with my own cause i hit 30 and started getting a beer belly uuuurrrrggh
45:50 As a Brit, I am amused by the very appropriate typo of 'bigotry' as 'bigtory'. (For those who don't know, 'Tory' is the nickname given to the Conservative party in the UK.)
Talking about the hijab reminds of when someone mentioned how wearing one could be seen as "rebellion" and I mentioned (though I'm not Muslim) that it was likely because it was a symbol of faith in a society that vilifies said faith. It is important to draw a distinction between wearing hijab because you want to and wearing it because you are required to.
I hope that Imane has a movie made about what she dealt with. I am so proud of her getting her gold, her floral girlie glow-up, and all the other promotions she's doing on social media. Who would've thunk that a cis-het Muslim woman would be the hero we needed?
Somethinng I want to bring up is something that I saw a person refer to as Schrodinger's Transphobe. Women with naturally high testosterone regularly deal with accusations of secretly being men, an accusation founded in the idea that men are superior in all things, yet those women also face comments like "they weren't good enough as male athletes so they decided to fight/compeat with female athletes" firmly putting them in an inferior category. Plus, when afab people with naturally high "male" levels of testosterone decide to transition to male/nonbinary and embrace their masculinity (something I did) we get told that we'll never be men and that we're actually just woman who have a disorder of some kind and we "need help". Its a self perpetuateing cycle of bizarre conclusions and self justification so that the status quo can be upheld and those who are upholding it can feel justified in their unfounded anger and hatred.
There aren't a lot of single-issue bigots- people who hate trans people but fight for everyone else's rights. People generally don't apply that hierarchical thinking to just one aspect of their lives.
As if transphobia wasn't harmful and bad enough, it harms even cis women. Why can't we leave those women live in peace. What baffles me is people literally refusing to believe that women produce testosterone. How those people passed school?
UA-cam is owned by an evil corporation happy to let people suffer if it makes them more money. Having said that, this video does directly discuss self harm and suicidal thoughts, so age restricting it makes some sense.
She definitely saw people saying she was scared to tweet and had to prove everyone wrong its like she spends all day searching her own name across different websites
i saw a video where a guy was saying she changed her profile picture everytime people made fun of it, so yea she def likes to know what people saying about her, at this point we can even bait her to say more incriminating shit and she would 100% take the bait lol
God, I feel so sorry for Jessie that she has to spend so much of her time defending her own existence instead of talking about a cool thing from Star Trek.
This story should really have died out as soon as people found out being trans is illegal in Algeria. There is no argument even from a conservative's perspective.
@@woopimagpie You kinda missed my point. Algeria has trans people but would never send a trans person as their representative cause, you know, they would be in jail if they found out. But then again, we in the Netherlands send a child rapist as our representative and that's also illegal and sounds waaaaay more far-fetched somehow. Maybe Olympic Committees are above their nations laws🤷♀️
@@Synthonym That's quite true I guess, but the Algerian Olympic selection committee are quite capable of breaking the law just like anyone. I'm just saying it's possible, not that it's what they did. Something being illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It really gets on my damn nerves how people like Matt Walsh are doing the equivalent of pointing at a color spectrum and arguing endlessly with people that there are only two colors, WARM and COOL!!! This is REALITY!!! like the universe is taking notes from the English language about how it's supposed to be 🙄
Fairness isn't a concern in sport. Biodiversity gave Michael Phelps a massive advantage that led him to win the most gold medals in the history of the olympics. Male chromosomes, t-levels etc MAY be advantageous in some cases but we ONLY police this shit when it comes to sex and never any other kind of inborn advantage competitors have and I think it's worth asking why that is.
the point of sports is that they're not fair. they're trying to find out who's the best and reward them accordingly. those who have pre-dispositions to be more muscular or have more endurance are those who succeed in sports. it's baffling to me that their argument is that it's "not fair" that someone would be stronger than their competition in a competition to find who's stronger
We separate categories based on sex (well a lot of sports have an open league and a women’s league) to encourage women to participate in sports. That’s it. If we didn’t people afab would basically never compete at the top levels which would inherently discourage young afab people from getting into the sport(S). So we’d live in a world where 99.9% of top level athletes (the ones that get media attention and recognition) are amab and 99% of them would be cisgender men. So to sum it all up: because representation matters. Edit: a good way to illustrate this is someone like Serena Williams. She is probably one of the most skilled tennis players of all time. She got crushed by a mid ranked male player. Her technique and skill were significantly better than his, but she just couldn’t bridge the gap in raw power. I know the Canadian Olympic Women’s Hockey team regularly plays against high School boys’s teams for training (they also do this because Canada’s population density and distribution is weird so it can be hard to have enough teams for them to practice against). The boy’s teams like it as the women are way better skilled and have superior training and the olympic team likes it as the boy’s are stronger and faster, but not so much that they just get overrun (the best way to get better at something is to compete against someone that is better than you, but only a bit better than you. If they are so much better than you that you basically cannot interact with them then you just wasting your time). Obviously this strategy is working for them as Canada DOMINATES women’s hockey. Out of the past seven Winter Olympics Canada’s women’s hockey has won the gold five times and the silver the remaining two.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 So instead of having a male and female league, you have two leagues separated by weight class where you take the median weight of participating athletes and draw the line down the middle. You'll wind up with sports like Tae Kwon Doe where people will train very specifically to be at the top allowable for their weight class and I think that's fine. A man and a woman who both train to be at top competitive build for 180lbs would probably be relatively well matched.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 we actually originally separated sports based on sex because male athletes didn’t like to be beaten by female athletes. You should research the formation of women’s sports categories. Even if what you said was true (which it isn’t) it goes directly against what is currently happening, which is women (both cis and trans) being excluded from sport and discouraging women to participate in sports. Afab people have always been able to compete in top levels. Sex assignment at birth has almost nothing to do with athletic performance. Place a trans man who has medically transitioned (afab) against a trans woman who has medically transitioned (amab) and almost invariably the trans man is going to win, solely due to androgenic advantage. Trans men do well in men’s sports. Trans women do not do well in women’s sports, statistically speaking. Also, your point about Serena Williams is very weird, as Tennis is one of the few sports that actually has a mixed gender category and women routinely compete against men. And the Canadian women’s hockey team example is moot as well, since we aren’t really talking about having men and women compete against each other in all sports, just how discriminatory and wrong it is to exclude trans women, intersex women and masculine cis women from women’s sports.
Oh, I waited for this video, honestly. As an Italian transmasc, I saw the thing escalating in my country (especially from far-right politicians and figures), and the misinformation was basically everywhere, and people still think that they were true.
Imagine your loss in boxing being used to escalate transphobia, and having to go home and see your country become more dangerous for certain people because you lost at the Olympics. Obviously what Imane is going through is terrible, and potentially life threatening (trans people being criminalized in her country), but I also feel bad for Angela, because she has to live with the fact that this devastating loss was hijacked by bigots
@spongecakes1986 pretty much- the situation is pretty bad here. They also wanted her being in the campaign for the bridge that would connect sicily to the rest of Italy (Which is bad for numerous reasons)
The "male skull/female skull" pictures are hilarious. While there are _generally_ some differences _on_ _average_ between male and female skulls, those differences are tiny but in those pictures they're cartooinishly exaggerated. Forensic/archaeological examinations of complete skeletons only have a 70% chance or something like that to correctly gender skeletal remains.
My favorites either gotta be Kyle rittenhouse being FtM or Caitlyn Jenner or Elliot Page being FtMtF or MtFtM respectively. Transvestigation is just so utterly unserious that it doesn’t even upset me and I must admit I occasionally look at people posting about it and laugh at them because it’s just so insane
Wanted to say this before I could forget, part of the irony here to me is that boxing is uniquely protected from biological advantages. The weight class system is a pretty good way of avoiding unfair size and strength differences, since muscles have weight. If high testosterone levels were making Khelif just so much stronger than her opponent that it was a problem, she'd be in a higher weight class. Not to imply these would be valid concerns in a different sport but it's especially dumb in boxing.
For within sex based categories yes, the effect of different hormone levels is minimized, but combined sex categories? No, cisgender men would dominate in all weight classes. Males can get down to ~3% body fat whereas females can only get down to ~13% body fat. That means between a 100lbs cisgender man and a 100lbs cisgender women the man will have an additional 10lbs of lean muscle mass. Males also typically have different distributions of muscle and that distribution favours combat sports in particular (males can grow muscle mass in the upper body much easier).
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 this is moot in the case of trans women, as they are not “males”, and once they transition they have typical female fat levels/distribution. I don’t think most people here are suggesting combined sex categories, merely that trans women should be able to compete within their actual sex category: female.
Yeh, it's almost like she didn't realise you might get punched hard in competitive boxing. It's literally the objective. In her defence though, she seems pretty regretful of all the fuss it caused. She was obviously just caught up in the emotion of the moment and said something she regrets. We've all been there.
@@woopimagpie The bare minimum, tho is she regretful 'cause she now knows her opponent was a cis woman? or 'cause she understood how little sportsmanship she show.
Algerian cis lady here... I have tobsay that everything taking place in France had a veeeeeeery special flavour too. Being North African in Europe is a very particular experience, I don't know if people outside Europe can understand the historical weight and the perception of North African femininity in Europe (cuento the word Beurette)
Just a note: Afghanistan is not an Arab country. The term Arab is used imprecisely a several times throughout the video. Appreciate the video otherwise.
That would falsely imply she ever had a brain. With each passing day, I'm more and more convinced she is no more than a flesh mecha for the black mold.
Even that one french guy who was missing most of his brain was completely normal (legitimately he had a sizeable cavity at the center of his brain and nobody knew or even could tell. Its an amazing instance of the human mind being very good at maintaining itself despite all odds whiiiich-) Makes it more odd that Rowling can't seem to pull off the same trick!
Old hermit here. Came to your channel cuz you have my favorite Trek takes on the net. Stayed for the education, thank you for the view into a lifepath not my own. Keep shining, thank you for your light and knowledge.
I am a Cis Caucasian boxer, or was back in my day. I can recall moments where we were told not to be as aggressive. What I fear the most is how homogeneous do they want sports to be? What about women with other natural advantages like broad shoulders, or better oxygen reuptake? No one ever accused me of being a dude, but I did face issues in my sport for being an aggressive fighter, and they did call me man hands. Which I pretended to shrug off, but there's more to be said on the male narrative control of women and women's spaces like sports
It's fascinating to hear that women are still being told they're being too aggressive and unladylike in the "punch people in the face until they can't take it anymore" sport.
@@Dryskle seriously! I was always left wondering "Isn't that why we're HERE? I hit her, she hits me, one of us eventually doesn't wanna take any more or goes night-night"
Same logic as the people who put female fighting characters in heels. They don’t want to face the reality of a woman fighter so they demand you overperform femininity at all times to coddle their fragile egos.
Was it just me or was the Italian woman's form so bad it was unbelievable she made it to the Olympics, when there's so many talented women boxers who i know could've filled her spot? She was not protecting her face at all, clearly. I'm a very amateur boxer so I couldn't say with confidence but I honestly smelt something fishy from the getgo. What are your thoughts?
I truly like how you didn't make this video about JKR, but about the misogyny all women have to face in the world of sports. This was truly an astounding video!!
8:08 I know that "Tranvestigations" is a stupid and harmful rethoric created by stupid and harmful people but Andrew Tate being accused by that crowd to be secretly trans is the funniest thing i have seen in a while.
Moving the goal posts is what they've all been doing for years when it comes to their ideas about gender. And hearing Matt Walsh talk about intersex people like that gave me the ick. I forget what the exact statistics are in this day an age, but when I was in school nearly 20 years ago, I had a teacher that said, "1 in 75 people isn't born a circle or a square, yet we still keep trying to jam them into circle and square shaped holes."
I have a family friend who is intersex, she was assigned female, identifies as a woman, but can’t change her sex. It’s meant she’s run into several dangerous issues in medical settings, struggles to know how medication will work with her. Again, this is a woman that appears as cis, identifies as cis, but just happens to be intersex (only found out she didn’t have a uterus when she tried to have a baby) and somehow still gets all the medical discrimination!
What everyone seems to be forgetting in sports debates is that most top athletes are not average, they do have something about their body that is above or below average because that's how they can excell, like long legs for runners (of course it also takes hard work to use that advantage properly, the tools alone are not enough) So why are we policing women for not having average testosterone levels but not policing anyone for having above average leg length? Because it would make just as little sense...
Not only do transvestigators claim, "We can always tell," they also act like they have low tier superpowers, like the ability to see through clothes, or the psychic ability to know someone's chromosomes. At least pick one of the cool superpowers, like shapeshifting.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9t We should obviously show transvestigators pictures of each other, let them do their stupid phrenology nonsense to "prove" the person they don't know is secretly trans, then send the links to the other. The chaos would be glorious.
It's a fact that everything is on a spectrum of diversity, but eurocentric thinking insists on everything is black and white, including skin colour because no one actually is either.
JK has literally made being a racist woman hating TERF her entire personality. The world is terrifying enough for afabs and women (trans or otherwise) and people don’t understand how I struggle to feel safe while I’m living on TERF island Also, congrats on the engagement! 🎉 You two are so cute together 🥰
@saraa.4295 I have a question, I keep seeing the uk being called terf island and being singled out for its transphobia in many online spaces. I understand there is absolutely transphobia here but could someone explain to me how the uk became the poster country for anti-trans that is frequently referenced when almost every other country on earth is even more transphobic, extremely so? I'm asking because as a scottish person, Scotland (not england) has one of the most extensive LGBT protection laws of ANY country in the entire world. Its literally ranked as one of the best countries for lgbt equality and rights.
It's not how we are as a whole, or even our laws, as they stand. It's the shear number of loud mouthed idiots with a platform that hail from here and unfortunately seem to have the ear of Westminster. We can only hope sanity will prevail..... it's not looking good!
@@pika6383 hey pika, pity it's just acwritten exchange, the Scottish accent is the best of all accents ;) Now, i am not an expert, but i'll give it my best guess: england has on the one hand very restrictive gender confirmation procedures and a segregated healthcare system with terribly long waiting times. On the other hand the loudest transphobic english voices are terfs, famous ones even, while in america the loudest transphobic voices are the usual far right "thoughtleaders" like Shapiro, walsh and so on.. And it's an island..giving it a nickname just works better if you can add on island in the end ;) First time i heard the term was when abigail thorne (philosophy tube) declared that as the most famous trans person in england she now is the "queen of terf island"
I don't understand her. She is so obsessed with this. It must be so exhausting to devote yourself to hatred, to search the internet everyday for something to get angry for. This is a bitter, miserable, and even weird woman. Just let people make their own decisions. It doesn't need to be complicated.
But the systemic racism and prejudice went beyond Voldemort. Dumbledore even says Fudge is prejudiced in book 4. Yet nobody thinks Fudge is pro Voldemort. The prejudice is baked into the foundation of the pro status quo Wizarding world. Nobody fought for progress or justice. They wanted Voldemort gone but kept the status quo after.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290wasn’t the excuse by the author that he was born evil because he was a child by rape or something? some horrible horrible thing like that; just bad to say in general because of what it means the author probably thinks about people that happened to IRL
To me is insane how easily the justification of the harassment against Imane Khelif is debunk with just 1 fast read into a Wikipedia article where you can find she has been competing for a long time in that women boxing division, but also she also lost many matches against women before. At the end of the day, the transphobic rhetoric against Khelif (as well to other major figures in many other spaces of life) are a more "accepted" way to attack a woman and being racist, all hate relate and feed each other.
The thing i find really weird about this whole thing is the whole "we need collect delicate women" vibe. They are BOXERS, fighting is their job this isn't like some huge guy beating up his tiny fragile wife... It's people who chose to fight for sport, fighting for sport. Even if khelif was trans or a man i don't see it as bad for a boxer to be punched?
Another amazing video, Jessie! The policing of femininity is so sick, this constant pervasive judgment under the name of "protecting women" is baffling. I really hope this court case goes in Imane's favor
Oh absolutely, the main basis those transvestigators usually have for even suspecting someone as trans is if they don’t deem the person in question looks “womanly enough” or “manly enough”, unfortunately most of the women even shown in the video aren’t considered conventionally feminine and people use that as a jump off point to accuse them of not being the sex they are claiming they are
Hi, Jessie. I'm really glad I came across your channel. I was raised in the Mormon Church, and it took me until I was 28 years old to realize that I was a lesbian, because the idea of being (whatever this bad thing is) was so forbidden, I never even allowed myself to consider it. I'd been in love with my at-the-time best friend for 8 months before I realized that's how I felt about her. Who did I run into, once I'd realized I was a lesbian? What today are called TERFs. I went to Michigan Womyn's Music Festival with my friends, and felt empowered as a lesbian for the first time in my life. I felt like a better kind of human being than I had ever been, partly because I was finally able to be myself, partly because I'd also left religion behind; but partly because I was part of a movement of women-born-women-for-women. I honestly didn't know there were justifications for viewing things differently at that point. And I needed that moment, even though if I'd entered a more inclusive environment I'd probably have had an equally powerful, empowering experience. I needed that identity so much, I continued to defend it even after I met trans women and began to learn more about their lives. I'm still somewhat slow to "get it." I still struggle with the in-betweens, the places where the lesbian women I made friends with in the early 2000's who want nothing to do with trans women are "bigoted," instead of misguided. As time goes by, I lean further and further into the understanding that deciding you don't approve of trans people is a clear choice to be bigoted, not a legacy understanding that you just haven't had enough exposure to overcome. This case, the boxer Khalif, has been what pushed me over the finish line. One of those old acquaintances was going off on how Khalif was a man, it had been proven, they transitioned, they had internal testes---all based off of false rumors that she was completely committed to believing, no matter if the rumors could be falsified with very little effort online. This was a POC woman throwing another POC woman under the bus, because of patriarchal standards that underly anti-trans beliefs. Khalif has everything I wish I had in a physical body; lean strength. The idea that she would follow up all these accusations with a photo shoot in patriarchy-approved feminine appearance rubbed me the wrong way--how would *I* feel if I had the body I wish I could have, but then had to "defend" my legitimacy as a human being by dressing up in what would, to me, feel like *drag*? I find your videos challenging to my acculturation in both worlds; the straight, religious world, and the GL (bt) world that I originally encountered when I came out in 2002. I'm going to keep watching, because the ability to let ones assumptions be challenged and overturned is a requirement for an intelligent and ethical mind. Thanks for doing what you do, and helping this 50 year-old lesbian not be an anchor, a drag on the movement toward a more ethical world.
While I love everything you've said here and I am so proud of you, a more 'muscular' woman dressing feminine shouldn't be described as drag, and if I recall from the interview involving that shoot, she does genuinely enjoy that clothing on her own from time to time. Though I do believe the specific timing of the shoot felt like an attempt to 'prove' her womanhood and that itself is an issue.
"This content may be inappropriate for some people. Would you like to continue?" Of all the shit I watch, and all the horrific shit that's available on this platform, *this* gets a warning?
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Your sentence is good. Ground news has a heavy false enlightened centrist bias in and of itself. People should know that. That's the people who created it. The way their comparison system works, creates false equivalencies between far left and far right. It tends not to put up credible news stories from far left sources.
Am wondering if I am alone in wondering about the validity of Ground News.
In the first instance, it should be fairly apparent as to where a publications political bias lies.
Secondly, those biases seem to me to be diminished by the acquiescence to established neoliberal economic values, so that while The Guardian may be progressive in terms of liberal values, it does not deviate that much from the Telegraph with regard to economic democracy.
In short, fuck the establishment media, and the establishment they represent.
Ground News might be the only common UA-cam sponsor I like, ngl.
I agree with your points in this video, but it was gross of you to say Angela Carini was "weaponizing White woman tears." Weaponizing implies intent to manipulate, when it's just as likely, if not more so, that Carini was just _upset about losing._ Crying is a natural response to intense emotions. It does not require an active desire to manipulate.
@@sarahshock6805i attribute no malice to carini considering her attitude and words after the fact, but the unfortunate reality is that her tears _were_ weaponized against khelif, even if carini wasnt the one to do so.
If JKR really cared about women at the Olympics, she would have spent all that time tweeting about the r*pist allowed to compete instead of tweeting about Imane.
right? or even just hyping up any of the other amazing female athletes instead of tearing one down
It's a lot like how there was complete radio silence from her right after Roe v. Wade was overturned in the US. She only said something after several weeks of people calling her out.
Not just that, he did it to a CHILD.
Lets name him, as he was convicted, Steve Van De Velde.
JKR seems to have no problem with him.
Joanne cares about women the same way a beef farmer cares about cows.
I thought sports was a celebration of people with "weird biological advantages" anyway? Michael Phelps is a freak of nature and he's one of the most celebrated Olympians of all time
You could make the same argument for Usain Bolt too. His fast twitch muscle to height ratio is abnormally high. Usually tall lean guys can't utilise their long stride length enough to sprint fast because their fast twitch muscle ability is proportionate. Not so for Mr Bolt. He literally had a genetic advantage.
Yeah, like making the cut for professional competitions/the olympics is a "cream of the cream" sorta deal where only "the best™" get picked. Which.... Statistically speaking, will be people with some kind of biological advantage (or people whose advantage is being able to financially afford starting young/a coach that fits them/tailored training/etc). In the olympics, a tennis player does not look like a weight lifter does not look like a swimmer does not look like a runner, etc.
Bodies aren't made equal! Genetics are diverse! It's not a bug, it's a feature of competitions where 200 out of 200000 athletes get to duke it out, that the competitors will have advantages.
Alas. Women can only be thin, white, western-version attractive with a single strand of hair growing anywhere that's not their head or eyebrows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ otherwise it's not fair, i guess. If you don't look like a prepubescent girl with huge tits you're not a woman /s
um but if trans or not white then UNFAIR!!!! 😰😰😰😰😰 LOGIC¡!!?!!
@@valentine.58 Yup. That's the whole deal right there; if white people win, it's because of their chosen virtues (eg "look how hard Michael Phelps trains!", which is true and great, but also true of every other Olympian and elite athlete at every level). If racialized people beat white people, it's because they're born with an "unfair" advantage. White people get all the credit, everyone else gets all the blame, because the assumption is that the "proper" state of things is white people winning because they're inherently superior. White people can only lose if someone else cheats (sound like any political party you know?).
Anti-trans bigotry is just white-supremacism in a new hat, part a billion.
@@valentine.58 Hmmmmmm compelling argument. You convinced me
Here's a fun fact, the entirety of Taiwan now hates JK Rowling for the things she's said about Lin Yu Ting, and Imane Khelif.
Taiwan continues to be based
Taiwan is amazing. One of their prominent politicians used to be in a black metal band called CthoniC.
I continue to be pro Taiwan
But that doesn’t make her incorrect. There is a strong possibility that both those fighters are intersex males, who were wrongly identified as females at birth, and therefore should not be competing with females.
Celebriti PoS managing to alienate entire countries at a time seems to be the trend
But Imane was a mask off moment. Transphobia isn't about trans people, it's about enforcing gender standards for binary cis people. We're sort of an afterthought at best, even when they think their hatred is all about us.
Right! Its always been because of misogyny
Perfectly said!!
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
People were very against imane when they they imane was trans.
A lot of people softened their stance when they found out imane is supposedly dsd.
That should be eye opening. People generally understand acyual medical conditions. People also generally do not agree wirh trans ideology.
The idea of forcing a woman to take and reveal biological tests publically is hideous and anti-feminist already, but Rowling seriously put Imane Khelif in danger. Algeria is not a friendly country to trans or intersex people and trying to "out" her could have had her arrested or medically harmed. Even if Imane Khelif was a trans woman or intersex, she had every right to keep that personal information
They should take the test by force.
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
What makes me so sad is that Imane Kalif was told she shouldn’t compete by ppl in her life because boxing “isn’t what women do” and so called feminists are basically saying the same thing: you succeeded so you must be a man.
Lin yu ting started boxing to protect her mom from domestic violence 😢
JK Rowling is not a feminist; don't let the "TERF" acronym fool you, like claiming North Korea is a democratic republic.
Women from Africa, South Asia, East Asia, and non-white athletes are constantly questioned about their female identity. Questioned white women's gender is rare.
"This makes the gender testing system not only sexist and discriminatory, but also racist and ethnocentric." said Michele Donnelly, an associate professor in the Department of Sports Management ( Canada )
Better know what I'm doing, all the time.
@@sarazworld3811 And Rowling as the gall to call herself a feminist. It’s funny how it’s only non-white athletes that get these sort of accusations. Almost as if the entire system is stack non white women in particular.
@@O-pm8bb someone tell JKs fake women's shelter in Edinburgh "Beira's Place".
The "elevated testosterone" thing absolutely kills me. I'm a cis woman. I don't sport, not even a little bit. Hell, I barely exercise (working on it for health reasons). I am not muscular. AND YET I have elevated testosterone and facial hair due to a little something called PCOS. I'm so tired of hearing about beastly hormones and how these intrusive, humiliating tests can supposedly suss out a person intersex or trans status. As often as these people like to use "biology" as a battering ram, they sure do oversimplify it beyond recognition.
Yep, same here.
Very happily Cis-Woman - PCOS, 5'10, broad shouldered, strong jaw, insulin resistant, "apple shaped" and probably incapable of having kids.
(There are several dozen not great contraception decisions in my teens (UK person, so 16 is our age of consent) that says I should have gotten pregnant, yet didn't)
It's posited that my existence is evolutionary advantage for Group survival.
Yet I suspect if I'd have ever gone an athletic route, I'd have confronted all these issues.
If I'd have been able to remain thin, I suspect I'd have made a great model due to my height and lack of angles that get in the way of the way that clothes drape! (Whole 'nother rant)
I've been called Sir in shops where people haven't seen my face yet on more than one occasion, and was asked once if I were a "Transvestite" in less enlightened times as well.
Hi sister of high testosterone blood lol, those people just don’t know what their own argument is half the time, and absolutely ignore even “normal people” like you and me can have those same abnormal hormone elevations for other reasons than taking pills, truth is they don’t know much about biology and what is in their mind “basic biology” is sometimes concepts or research even actual biologists fight over but they like to ignore that part because it sure is inconvenient when they’re trying to sound smart
I'm Afab WITHOUT PCOS and hell if I can't pass like a man. Basically no breasts, defined jaw and thick brows. Even got a touch of a 'stache and extremely hairy legs if I let it grow. If I was a celeb I would be a "transvestigator" wet dream.
To add to that, I've never heard of a man being denied because of elevated testosterone levels
@@BlueBerry2283hell Michael Phelps was *praised* for having innate biological advantages.
Me an arab cis woman who looks like Iman and was surrounded by cis women who look like her growing up, seeing people accuse her of being trans because she doesnt have white features: 😐
Transphobia truly is the bastard child of misogyny and racism.
A textbook example on how transphobia hurts all women honestly. I was so upset, not just because they are lying, but because such lies and rumors can literally endanger her. Speaking as an Egyptian, our region just is not safe at all for rumors like that to fester. She could get hurt, and it would be all over a lie.
I was under the impression that it wasn't due to the fact she's lacking white features (What are 'white' features?) but due to the fact she looks like she was designed from Day 1 to punch other women through the wall. She's a genetic abnormality that seemed designed for combat sports. The fact J.K's so high on her own farts she can't bother to check who she's mislabeling aside, I saw the comments as distinctly commenting on masculinity, not 'whiteness.' What's this obsession with race?
What's even more weird than saying is I have also seen white women particularly older white women with the same type of facial features so I have no idea what Rowling and all these other white TERFS are talking about.
She actually has a beautiful face
Walsh: "There are no exceptions to the binary!"
Walsh: Proceeds to describe an exception
@@Alice-May the actual circular logic lmao
@@Alice-Mayor, they simply dismiss you as irrelevant and unimportant. Students For Life president Kristin Hawkins has had a number of "guests" on her show who screech "You're either 46 XX or 46 XY! That's it!" When I point out that I am neither, IF I am answered at all, I am told I don't count because my condition only counts for 1:5000 live births.
He's a walking contradiction
His wording was also just so rude it made me so angry :(
@@nglchff Yeah it drives me crazy. I tell people that regardless of their opinion on trans people, sex is biologically not a binary, that is a categorical, biological fact: sex is not binary. And get told 'oh, but those people are so rare'. No rarer than red hair (depending how you define intersex). What they mean is 'yeah but I'm talking about the people I think are normal'. But even among perisex people, there's a spectrum of sex traits that have about as much variation within the two groups as between them. I know I'm preaching to the choir here it just makes me so mad.
I'm half-Egyptian and grew up brown in a white Texas suburb. The go-to insult for a while in junior high was that I was a "transformer: more than meets the eye" (because apparently I looked "manly" at age 12). I hated it then and I hate it even more now as I watch Imane Khelif and other POC women and girls go through this. The attacks on Imane are absolutely racist and sexist.
YES! (haven't watched the vid yet) and SO many ppl are comparing Imane to high testosterone women and sharing their experiences with PCOS, while women with high T are still women (always), in my opinion Imane doesn't look "manly" or like she has high T levels. she just doesn't look white/european!
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
JKR is really collecting forms of bigotry like infinity stones at this point
She already had all that. Most of it is clear in HP
Like the GOP
Wich ones are missing? Hmm... Well she didin't say or did anything against Latinos.... Yet. Its just a matter of time
@@BelindaShort Well, brazenly now, I guess, but you’re right, they were already in HP
“Fine. I’ll tweet it myself.”
I'm really weirded out how bullying a person and questioning their hormonal status is supposedly helping women where instead women in beachvolleyball are still pressured into wear really revealing clothing.
Ditto women's gymnastics. While the IOC has gotten marginally better (the German team was able to wear ankle length leotards in Tokyo), in national gymnastics, not wearing the standard leotard is an automatic deduction to your score. Little kids and young girls are forced to wear extremely revealing clothing for no good reason. Men are allowed to wear pants and shorts, women aren't. Ridiculous
@@AskMia411and even still others are body shamed and slut shamed if they're "too" full figured in those leotards and ppl sexualize them! (Katelyn ohashi)
@@AskMia411 I'm genuinely amazed this is still a thing. I mean I'm not because misogyny. When I was a kid in school , we were forced to wear those comical 'gym knickers' that revealed full thigh. Even in the middle of British winter they'd force teen girls outside to play sports in these tiny short shorts, and while we froze our arses off, we'd be told "you'll warm up once you get running". Meanwhile the boys were allowed to wear full length tracksuit bottoms outside during winter lol. It wasn't until ltierally as I was leaving high school that girls were FINALLY allowed to wear normal shorts all year, and full length bottoms during winter. You'd think I was talkling about the 70s, but nope, this was dureeing the 90s and very early 00s lol.
@@Spamhard My mom wasn't allowed to wear pants to school until high school. Once in elementary school they were going on a field trip to the zoo, and they'd been told they could wear pants/shorts. My mom and aunt got new clothes and everything for it. They got to school and were told by their (female) teacher that their shorts were too short. It was a small town, so they ran back home and changed, only to be told again their shorts were too short and had to run back again. Nearly missed the bus to the zoo because of the arbitrary opinion of their teacher. They also couldn't wear pants in winter and had to wear skirts with tights. It's crazy to me that some people on the far right want to go back to those times.
the terfs truly are "feminists" 💀💀💀
Even if you take the Matt Walsh argument at face value, Khalif has lost 9 times according to her record, and has finished 30th in a women's tournament. This means that if she is a man, she lost to women, thus proving that women can compete with men at a high level of athletic ability. Which implies that everything the anti-trans bigots have to say about the matter is pointless. There's a reason these guys never prove their bs, by challenging a women's UFC fighter, or pro boxer...
That is an on going issue regardless of the sport. Lia Thomas winning one race was enough to get the outrage machine going to the extent that to compete now in swimming you need to have transitioned before you go through puberty.
they don't even understand their own arguments, you can't logic them into sense
I would love to see someone like Matt Walsh or Elon Musk fight a woman UFC fighter... Heheheh...
Multiple times in history the reason why "we have to give women their own competition or they would never win against men, it's unfair" is because they can totally win against men and have won against them, and this made the men upset that all their beliefs about being better, stronger, faster is a bunch of baloney.
Inevitably, a women's competition is made because a single woman can win against dozens of men.
Fascists don't care about logic
She really said that being a bigot is the worst thing a person could be, and then went full bigot. Amazing
Right? The cognitive dissonance is insane
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
Just a quick note: there is a difference between Arabic and Arab. Arabic is a language, while Arab refers to the people. So there's no such thing as Arabic women, but rather Arab women.
I wish youtube had a "this is helpful" button, cause this was. I feel like the thumbs up isn't enough
Imagine if we said male athletes can only have normal testosterone levels
And no estrogen stuff! 🤣
Or testing they genitalia. Where in some cases that can have a some reason :)
Exactly this! If you're not a 5'8" schlub, you have an unfair advantage in the competition! Only average people are fair!!!
The olympics do test men for high testosterone levels to prevent steroid abuse etc, they also test for loads of other metabolites etc.
people competing in the men’s competition at the Olympics are way less likely to be androgen insensitive and would therefore receive roughly equivalent benefits from artificially increased testosterone levels. Where as androgen insensitive women may have less changes from having normal male levels of testosterone than another woman would have from going up 1/10th of that.
@@glenecollins there is a difference between steroid use and someone's natural testosterone levels which is what we are talking about.
The idea that the Olympics, the sporting event NAMED after Mt. Olympus, the mountain where the gods of the Greeks lived, is somehow Christian is hilarious to me.
It's a bit of a cultural ship-of-Theseus.
The Olympics are an iconic component of classical Greek culture. Western culture frames itself as a successor to -ancient Grome- classical Roman and Greek culture. Western culture also frames itself as inherently Christian. Therefore, all of its components must also be Christian. Therefore, the Olympics are Christian, and all those hundreds of oxen sacrificed in the middle of the ancient Olympics were basically being sacrificed to Jesus.
Don't you love Christian logic? This is why they want to defund schools. As a former Christian I can attest the second you get even a little bit of critical thinking skills you stop being Christian
@@timothymcleanBut Christian used to persecuted followers of the Greek gods and were the ones to close down theirs temple.
@@nikogarcia201 Ah, but ignoring that would be easier, wouldn't it?
@@sacrificiallamb4568 Nevermind the fact that the greek gods were worshiped for centuries before Christianity even existed.
Was an absolute pleasure to collaborate with Jessie on this video. As an Algerian trans woman myself, this whole situation has been really weird for me. Hope y'all like the video!
It was an honor to have you in the video ❤
What are you doing out of the kitchen!? 😅🙃
I can only imagine how many complicated feelings this must have stirred up
Sending love
Excellent job, thank you for sharing. I dont know if people will ever understand or fully accept transgender folks, but your small part in this vid is making a big difference towards baby steps that the world is taking now. Stay strong and hug each other often!! You gals are great!!
You were great. I did not expect an Algerian woman to be featured. I really wanted to hear what actual Algerians think on the subject and not just white English and american people
My issue with the people pointing out how "masculine" Imane looks is like, so what??? Women come in all different shapes and sizes, just like men, and yes, gendered sex traits very often overlap and subvert each other in any variety of ways. It's bizarre to me that the average person can witness so many, many different body types on every gender and still think that body types are totally black-and-white.
If only people just took a second to think about how much makeup, trimming, exercise, tailoring, and other stuff goes into wedging apart the genders visually
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
@@Violaphobia If there were no makeup, haircuts, body modifying clothing, or surgeries, we'd all be a lot harder to tell apart
If any of Rowling's children come out as trans, I am going to be genuinely worried for them.
She’d probably disown them like Elon did
@@haileyshannon7548 That or force them to De-transition.
That witch has children
It likely that they’ve distance themselves from her. From what little I’ve given both are adults now and rarely ever talk to her.
It can't be said enough. Transphobia hurts everyone.
It doesn't hurt me,JK Rowling is the best.
@@VenusEvan_1885 Yummers
@@VenusEvan_1885 bot energy
Yes! And it should, even if it didn't impact all of us, which it does. Knowing that people are discouraged from being who they are should sadden everyone. We all deserve better. We all deserve the freedom to be and develop who we are freely and with support and encouragement.
But even if we were all stoic sociopaths and we didn't care how anyone feels it still hurts everyone, including the transphobes. It limits how we develop, it limits our productivity, happiness, kindness, well being, economies, progress, safety, freedoms. It makes use weak by dividing us, and by ripping talent from the total talent pool we would all benefit from, and by encouraging and normalising toxic behaviour that discourages us from understanding ourselves and others which would help all of us to more easily deal with things like emotions of grief or happiness and growing toward a healthier and happier future for us and our children and shames us for feeling anything at all instead.
The same goes for racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc..
It's tragic how it harms individual persons who all deserve better, but it's bizarre how it's so overlooked and seen as a worthwhile cost to the bigots, who pay the lowest costs and do the most damage and see the damage and costs as a useful tool to push people into the sunk cost fallacy so they'll more easily think that there must be some truth to it if has such an impact on societies and the bigots are willing to destroy it for their goals of control over others.
And what I get from people around me is:" I don't want to hear or think about it - it makes me sad."
Really? That's how they want to encourage us to deal with hardship of others that impact all of our lives? We need MORE awareness and pushback. More awareness means a more sturdy and secure basis to push back from. We don't deal with cancer by not thinking about it and that makes people sad. WTF is wrong with people?
@@VenusEvan_1885 Piss off, Joanne
I'm a cis woman with broad shoulders and large feet....I hate transphobes. I particularly hate whiny ah's who loudly complain that they can't use a washroom because a "man is in there" because they see my feet under a stall door and they have obviously never had to find cute shoes for size 11 feet that aren't either very masculine or are meant for flashy drag performers. I grew up feeling like a monster, which I do still feel around petit friends and sisters and shorter bfs. While Im sure my size has helped me when I've been assaulted....being able to bench press a large guy off of me or walking away from a punch to the face is a crappy consultation prize.
Transphobia hurts everyone. Everyone should be able to feel comfortable in their own skin.
Why those perves spy on people's feet in a closed cubicle?! 😮
They're weird perverts for looking at who is in the stalls.
I'd also guess that in many ways, your personal style is particularly elegant, because you (very unfairly) never had the luxury of walking into just any store and finding something that made you feel pretty. (or not! as long as you're comfortable, and I hope you can get over the childhood scars someday)
As a fellow cis woman who's been called a man ever since toddler-hood, I relate. This has always been about misogyny. Not that I'm at all discounting the transphobia behind it all, just that any masc or non white woman (or one who even slightly doesn't fit into the narrow binary) has lived this same crap their entire lives. I'm always surprised when I see lesbians, especcially butches, engage in this level of transphobia because they've SURELY faced this same crap themselves.
You having that happen to you reminded me of the fact that transphobes will say that trans people (or in your case, a cis person who doesn't fit their narrow view of bodies) make them feel less safe and that we "perv on" them, when they'll literally follow us around or attack us and peek into/under our stalls???
Hmmmmmm.......i think i need to see a picture of those feet.
No socks!
(No, jk. But i couldn't help myself,sry)
It's honestly shocking, these people accusing us of redefining 'woman' to include people who identify as women, yet they redefine 'woman' to mean 'feminine attractive fertile peoples of XX chromosomes' and 'man' to be 'not woman'
Oh and it gets worse because they also define woman as "a man who isn't toxic, agressive and masculine enough" but only when able to be used as ridicule to hurt said person, if said person later identifies as a woman then they are labeled as a man again.
They make it so confusing.
"man" being defined as simply "not women" by these ppl is so real.
I once joked about a mythical third gender that only existed for the purpose of discriminating against women who don't align with gender norms, but nah, bigots are never _that_ creative
They're not even that coherent or consistent. There's not a fascist out there who would qualify a person they found sexually-attractive as "not a woman", because that would make them "gay". To them, a woman is whoever it's convenient for them to label a "woman" in the moment (note here about how any fascist is always 2 seconds away from telling you at length about how "age of consent" laws are way too restrictive, specifically in "adult men r*ping young girls" terms).
Fascism; all the power, none of the responsibilities.
@@RiveroftheWither I think to them your gender is a gift given to you at birth that you are morally obligated to keep as you age, and if you do something unbefitting of your gender, you forfeit it, earning you disrespect and ridicule. The problem is, if you actually REJECT that gender, rather than lose it by force, it means that now your gender isn't something to be REVOKED to punish you, it's something to be IMPOSED on to punish you. So they HAVE to change their definition on the spot in order to continue being able to ridicule you.
If she doesn't look good in a dress, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, making my food and calling me sir then she's not a woman!
As an enby hijabi muslim thanks for acknowledging the issues surrounding hijab is nuanced, and really depends on the culture and government muslim afabs grew up in. I really appreciate this. Awesome video as always!
Like iran and afghanistan
i love that logic of "there is no exception to the sex binary, because the exceptions that do exist do not count"
It actually seems to be the other way around. He's asserting that intersex people that clearly do break the norm of the sex binary do not count, because "there are no exceptions". As if it's a magical rule set on a stone tablet by God.
The "IStandWithAngelaCarini" crowd stopped standing with her pretty quickly, after she came out in support of Imane.
Because they never cared about her, just that they could use her as a mouth piece. Then the mouth piece started talking on her own and couldn't be manipulated.
Yup. I read an interesting piece on how women of her ethnic group in Italy are often derided and mocked as “too masculine”, so I imagine she’s familiar with this kind of bullying.
Yeah, it kind of felt weird how uncharitable they were to her in this video with comments like 'weaponizing white woman tears'. Like she had been consciously trying to manipulate people into going after Imane instead of just having a genuine emotional control fail and crying because her Olympic dreams went up in smoke.
_Now_ I stand with Angela Carini! For real, ironically for those people.
She apologized for not shaking her hand, but not for previously liking that racist ass cartoon portraying imane as a beast. Those tears were 100% calculated. Fuck her. @@mizu7662
There needs to be a long discussion on how the confluence of racism and transmisogyny forces Black and Brown women to have to overperform femininity just to be considered women and the backlash they get from white women who say they are reinforcing gender stereotypes by doing so.
Its a lose-lose situation where in order to be recognized as women we have to over do it and by overdoing it end up being vilified for that as well!
Same thing happens with trans women, they keep us all down by keeping us in a constant state of stress and anxiety. It really is a lose-lose situation.
If someone hasn’t yet made this video essay, I hope they do
Literally an ouroburous of misogyny
@@catcacheri totally agree and more vids are better! but i think the current vid we are commenting on has done that somewhat. No? I never connected the dots from transphobia to colonialism and misogyny, for instance, so this vid indeed did some heavy lifting. Hugs!!
Olutinatti made a good video five months ago she's a black immigrant abolitionist lawyer out of NY. Highly recommend it. Her content is great and pulls in a lot of other black and poc voices.
Also I'm a black nonbinary trans woman I often can't tell the difference between misogynoir and transmisognoir. They overlap enough to be the same circle. And while i tend to present along a femme way I'm genderfluid and tend to do so in ways that get me thought as sapphic or non conforming... Ie some kind of queer woman. Hell being too femme gets you flack sometimes. The line in the sand is entirely arbitrary and it's simpler to just do my own thing and wade through it. 😅 Mind you I'm autistic so a lot of gender social norms and the way others perceive me seem whack or hard to discern in real time, patriarchy aside, but that's a whole nother conversation.
People who were mocking women's boxing all their lives are now suddenly there to defend it from something that isn't even true.
So I feel the need to mention this, because bad reporting from English media has caused a lot of misinformation: Khelif is not "suing" Rowling and her actions towards her are not a lawsuit. It was reported that way in American and British media because neither of those countries understand how French Civil law. You can find some better coverage in Canadian sources (because Quebec uses Civil law, most of those newspapers have people on the payroll who understand it).
What Khelif did is better described as a ciminal complaint. In short, she went to a criminal prosecutor, said "these people commited these crimes against me" and now that prosecutor is investigating. This matters, because the outcome is very different. When people hear "lawsuit", they tend to think of things like FOX paying almost a billion to Dominion. In reality, if prosecuted, the outcome here will likely only be a fine in the tens of thousands of Euros-but it also carries the possibility of prison time. And makes the fact she is tweeting again even dumber, because the UK has extradition treaties with France.
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
"Anyone who covers their drink when you walk into the bar" seems to really annoy the "What is a woman?" crowd.
@@TomBruhh tl;dr suck it up, buttertroll
@@TomBruhh You say without cross referencing.
@@TomBruhhAnd that includes trans women right?
@@TomBruhhdefine "female"
@@TomBruhhsex and gender are different, but good try! read a high school sociology textbook.
Jk Rowling is like the old school feminist who swears that she is still a feminist while being racist and saying men have it worse
White women have been seen as the default women for so long that many white women only see themselves as women.
So old school Emma Goldman and Sojourner Truth are too cutting edge for her.
BINGO.
A fundamental aspect of TERF "feminism" is ignoring or even denouncing intersectionality. And that means only the misogyny issues that directly affect white, middle class, able bodied, Christian or Christian-passing women "count."
In other words: She's a Karen.
My favourite answer to "it's basic biology" comes from a xkcd comic and is "oh so you never made it to advanced biology?"
Arguments in bad faith help no one.
@@1I1-III1 Which one are you referring to?
As someone with a BS, MS, and ~10 years of experience in a lab focusing on hormonal differences, can confirm they stopped at BLOKS and never made it to Legos
@@bore-aliss 🤣 Okay, that's advanced alright. Want me to complicate things further with some quantum field mechanics? We're all emergent from fundamental physics! We're all connected by those fields! And separated on those fields by particles, but also connected to each other by those particles which is how your entire arm moves when you move your arm and not just one particle and leaving the rest behind :p That would be so awkward 🤣"Don't move too fast, or you'll disintegrate!" :p
But on the hormones, I think they're fascinating and it's weird to me how little is understood by doctors, like the mention of the effects of dropping T-levels as opposed to the effect of a low T-level. And it shouldn't be too hard to figure that out, right.
With completely different hormones I was once tested for two weeks to see if I had hypoglycemia because I had serious mental issues because of how awful I feel when my blood sugar drops. I kept a diary because I didn't think they were looking for the right things.
I was in a room with several other people and we had a lot of fun and we all went our own ways and did our own things and sometimes chat and joke. This was when I was told to just eat normally for a week to see how my body responds to a normal diet.
The day I had to stop eating I felt horrible and my mind kept telling me that those people that I had fun with for a week didn't like me and ignored me because they preferred to not have me around, which I knew was demonstrably false, but my mind kept telling me that anyway.
I think it took a day or two for my blood sugar to level out and when that happened I felt weak in my body, but happy as ever, and I joked and had fun, stole a wheelchair and did wheelies in it in and around the hospital.
Then a young woman was brought in and her blood sugar was waaaaaay too high and they injected her with insuline and told her that it was a lot and it would bring down the blood sugar FAST and that she would probably feel horrible when the blood sugar was dropping. And I was like, THAT! That is my entire problem! There is nothing wrong with me, and random nurses know that it's normal to feel awful when the blood sugar drops. Some people get cranky, others like me get super insecure.
Heck, there are commercials on TV that play on the awful feeling billions of people have when the blood sugar drops, and they turn to monsters and then they get a Snickers, and they're fine. (And I actually had Snickers as quick emergency snacks at home for years because it's a mix of sugar and protein, which raises the blood sugar fast with the sugar and keeps it up with the proteins for a while until the next meal.)
After two weeks the tests were done and I went to the specialist and she told me I don't have hypoglycemia. I said that I knew that and that I feel horrible when my blood sugar drops. She told me to see a shrink about that. Zero acknowledgement from the hormone specialist that it's normal to feel awful when your blood sugar drops. How? Zero advise on keeping a check on my blood sugar and how I feel and fixing that by taking in some sugar and slower calories.
I get that I also needed cognitive behavioural therapy to deal with my automatic thoughts, but that doesn't solve the problem I have, a problem that had ruined my life for over 30 years, to simply understand that my body is more sensitive than most and responds more intense than most and that I can stop my mind from gaslighting me and unjustifiably telling me that people hate me by simply taking in some sugar, or preferably get ahead of that and eat some slower burning calories.
It's such common knowledge that advertisers use it to sell snacks. And a medical specialist just ignores it. That's f'ing weird to me.
At least I figured it out and it completely flipped my life from being a locked up victim who blames himself and tells himself he deserves to feel like crap because he is crap, to being actually happy and enthusiastic and having people around who are stunned and as much in tears as I am to see who I am now as opposed to being locked up in my mind with little to no interaction with people around me.
And it's not like it's so complicated to research the effects of hormones and rising or dropping hormone levels. It's just largely ignored by medical specialists and we're told we're not right in the head and we just need therapy. Except when it comes to excluding trans people, then all of a sudden everyone is an expert and T-levels are the be all and end all of having an unfair advantage over cis women and chromosomes are the gender you are for some reason, but we're also not just biological machines because god. I don't know which hormones make my brain feel like it's warped upside down, in a twist, and inside out when people are like that, but wow, that is some next level lack of self awareness and cognitive dissonance. It's almost impressive villainous behaviour.
@@1I1-III1 Pointing out that biology IS complicated isn't bad faith.
Here, i have some homework for you:
Educate yourself on sea-snails and the direction of the swirl of their shells (clockwise or counter-clockwise).
What factors play into the offspring of a clockwise shell snail having counter-clockwise shells?
Sounds basic? I promise you it's anything but. And that's just snail shells
The TV reboot show, on her part, is entirely to erase Emma Watson, Rupert Grint, and Daniel Radcliffe for being against her anti-trans bigotry. It's an impossible task but I would liken it to her "reclaiming" the franchise from the actual stars of the movies.
I'm wondering if they'll cast a black actress to play Hermione and if they'll faithfully adapt everyone telling her that she's dumb for caring about slavery
I personally saw it as her desperately trying to reclaim credibility as an author after the disastrous Fantastic Beasts movies.
It's honestly a little sad how hard she's clinging to the franchise. It makes me think that she isn't confident in her ability to create another renowned work. Harry Potter was all she had and she's wringing every last drop out of it that she can.
@@gem9535 And after the wet fart that were the Robert Galbraith books. Which let's face it wouldn't have sold at all if she actually committed to the bit like did Stephen King did with the Richard Bachman books.
It will likely backfire. What are the chances she'll manage to find three young actors that within a few years won't support trans rights as most younger people do? At 12 or whatever age they'll be, trans rights and TERF-dom aren't things they know or care about. Give it 5 years and she'll be in a pissing match with the new cast too.
I just want to say that ever since women were allowed to compete in sports there were women "accused" of being male. Ewa Klobokowska who was a great athlete was stripped from all her medals and was banned from competing for "failing gender tests" and a year later she gave birth. No one ever apologised to her and her career was ruined.
Whenever woman is exceptional at sport she is being transvestigated.
I think she might have had her medals given back eventually after they were taken from her but uh
if she did it was 40 years later or something, without really an apology
I might be thinking about someone else another similar thing happened to though
I was wondering when someone would bring this up. No woman should have to comply to unrealistic beauty standards.
You lose. His medical details leaked. Imane Khelif was/is/will always be, male.
Begging my fellow millennials to let go of this series of mediocre children's books.
someone converted me to Ursula K. Leguin and I never looked back
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
The Groosham Grange Trilogy is infinitely superior, and Harry Potter is an overrated bootleg thereof.
Some of my favorites are The Enchanted Forest Chronicles and Mairelon the Magician books from Patricia C Wrede, The Dragon Riders of Pern series from Anne McCaffrey, the old Magic the Gathering novels that came out between the Tempest and Alara blocks, the Joust series by Mercedes Lackey, and the Dresden Files Books from Jim Butcher. Though that last series is more modern noir with magic than classical fantasy.
For sci-fi Douglas Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series is a must-read.
I haven't gotten around to it, but I'm always hearing that everything from Terry Pratchett is gold.
The thing that bothers me the most about the whole trans Accusations is that it shows the lack of a f**k they give because they changed the word trans. In order For Imane Khelif to be trans in the most accepted definition she would have had to be Identified as male at birth then become a woman. Did her Parents lie to the doctors or something? If the only way to tell she is a "man" is by her chromosomes, then they can't define what a male is anymore, let alone a man. It's hypocrisy that I hope get sued the F**k out of because Im sick of this.
The transphobes are also going back and forth, sometimes in the course of just minutes, as to whether they consider chromosomes or natal anatomy definitive (it's actually neither -- they consider their own declarations of divine intent definitive, but they like to pretend otherwise). Transphobes will demand that you be banned from any platform for suggesting that they might not consider cis women with CAIS (who have at least one Y chromosome) women...but now they're _also_ insisting that sex/gender is entirely defined by chromosomes, so they're doing the thing that they screamed libel any time anyone suggested that they might consider doing.
The minute this stuff with Imane began, I mentioned to my friends that 'biological woman' will become shorthand for 'woman enough'. And we are witnessing it in real time
Knowing her chromosomes (if they're even XY) wouldn't magically turn her into a male either, she would still be female with some hormonal condition and XY chromosomes. Her chromosomes might be male, but that is not the only thing that determine sex characteristics and intersex XY female assigned are still referred to that way unless they legally change their gender marker.
I see all these people insisting "if you have a Y chromosome, you're a man, that's what it means to be a man, that's what manhood is" and I'm like, okay, fine, you win. Yes, there is a natural binary: people who have Y chromosomes and people who don't. Now please explain to me why that determines who in our society is allowed to wear lipstick.
@@IndigoViolentThose people never seem to understand that cis women with XY chromosomes exist due to a genetic disorder, nor do they ever acknowledge any intersex or atypical chromosomal typing.
Of course, it's always people who only have an understanding of science below the high school level...
I just wanna add that the measuring of testosterone and saying you are not a woman or can’t play in a women’s sport if you have more testosterone is also ableism. PCOS and other conditions that cause higher testosterone are disabilities. They meet the legal definition of disability. Many Intersex conditions meet the legal definition of disability because of the extent they can affect your life. This is such an example of how ableism,racism, homophobia and even Islamaphobia are all interconnected.
Yes, because anything that doesn't conform to narrow white ideals is seen as a threat to white power.
Everything intersects. All forms of bigotry are just the pillars of capitalism.
male athletes are allowed any amount of naturally produced testosterone, any length of arms, any physical advantage that is not provably from doping or other cheating. women are scrutinized to ensure they still meet the strict societal requirements of “feminine” more than to ensure fairness. the assumption the women’s playing field needs to be “scientifically” bounded is based on the assumption all women are weak and unable to compete in the way men do.
Too many people need the 'Us vs Them' mentality for a stable sense of self....
Individual diagnoses/conditions do not get recognized as disabilities (there are a few exceptions). Instead it is based on how the individual is affected by the diagnoses and so it is determined on a case by case basis. There is a reason for this as some conditions, like depression, generally are not impactful enough to substantially limit your daily activities. However, sometimes those conditions can get bad enough, such as depression, where they do significantly impact your daily activities. Another reason for defining disability like this is for individuals with multiple health conditions that individually would not be significantly impairing but combined they add up to being greater than the sum of their parts. This aligns with the social model of disability which is the preferred model by disability groups and advocates.
The thing that gets me is that even if Khalif were trans, doesn't the fact that she's not dominating against women prove she'd have no unfair advantage?
True that, but the advantage doesn't matter. A lot of sports are dominated by genetic advantages and transphobes don't shed a tear for those.
The problem for them isn't the advantage, it's the fact that there's a trans person existing.
@@floreroafloreril1458 in this case, a cis woman of color existing
iirc, trans women (on HRT) have been allowed to compete in the ABA Women’s Division since its inception in the 1980s. Not a single trans woman has, as of yet, won the championship title. Over the course of the 40+ years the ABAWD has been active, only two trans women have even gotten close, but were ultimately beat out by their (cis) opponents.
But Imane beat one -cis- white woman, once, and that woman complained about how hard Imane hit her.
Sports is about having inherent advantages over your opponent. Michael Phelps has an unusually large arm span and his body doesn’t produce as much lactic acid which leads to more endurance. Literally nobody says he shouldn’t compete. Their arguments for “fairness” is so friggin disingenuous. I don’t really like the argument “trans women should compete because they don’t always win or often lose.” They should compete because they’re women in the sport that have worked hard to get where they are like just like cis women- full stop.
Saying sports leagues were segregated with the goal to keep women safe is like saying sports leagues where segregated to keep African Americans safe.
Walsh saying there "are no exceptions" to the gender binary so reminded me of Agent Smith in The Matrix saying "You believe that you are special. That the rules do not apply to you."
Maybe if she cleaned up the mold and learned to actually write, she wouldn't have written the worst prequely trilogy ever made.
Hey, that trilogy has ONE GREAT SCENE. Jacob and Newt meeting Queenie. Super sweet, more than a little sexy.
But other than that, yeah, those films are genital fungus-level bad. Or so I hear.
I only saw the first one.
What if the mold's been doing the writing all along? 🤔
After the seventh book was published, I joked once that she should try to avoid getting high on her success, lest she end up writing James Potter and the Phantom Menace (this was back when everyone hated the Star Wars prequels). And then she ended up doing just that.
@@LexYeen That would explain why she thought basing the entire finale of this book series on figuring out who owns a stupid wand at the last minute was a good idea.
@@Nemo12417except that's what the fans actually wanted (a Marauder's prequel) and she couldn't even do that. The fans, as per usual, did it better.
I'm trans, I'm in the worst headspace of my life, I might get end up homeless, I want to hit the escape button - but trans people existing and making stuff and being creative is probably the biggest thing putting meadow-fed breath into my lungs right now. 🏳️⚧️💚
Hang in there friend ❤ You make the world better by being in it ❤
I’m so sorry you are having a terrible time. You have value, just as you are. Your existence matters. You have worth. It’s brave to put your feelings out into the world and to live your life as your authentic self and I am proud of you for doing it. Be safe and please have a mom hug from me.
Keep going the world needs you ❤
I hope things get better for you. Remember that there are millions of trans allies out there who support you 🏳️⚧️💜
Hey. I know it doesn’t sound like anything helpful now, but it does get better. I am trans. I have been homeless in the past. You are not alone.
Jessie Gender is like the Gandalf of Taking out Trash. “I don’t take the trash out late, nor early, I take it out exactly when I’m meant to.” 😂
HA!
This nearly killed me with how much you made laugh haha
I was convinced this was a metaphor. This is why I should watch the video before reading the comments.
@@Swezzeret ¿Por qué no los dos?
“Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout would not take the garbage out.” ♻️
Transvestigators have actually gone after JK Rowling in the past which is absolutely hilarious
Ive joined a few of their groups just to observe, its fucking hilarious how often they turn on each other
The dumbest part? Imane is from a country where being trans is forbidden, the fact JK and others ignored that is mind blowing.
And punishable in their own country by death... I wish that weren't true but unfortunately it is
I'm from UT and recently we kicked out a wicked woman from a school board because she kept insisting that certain high school girls where trans. While the article didn't show the student in question it showed her parents and you can see that her mother is a tall Scandinavian woman with a strong jaw. So my assumption was that poor girl was picked on for being tall with a strong jaw like her mother. I am an italian afab and so its really easy for me to grow facial hair. I've been thinking of no longer waxing and plucking. If our identity is based on our chins, so be it. I'll wear my scruff with pride.
Glad she was kicked out. Small victory.😊
My gf has dark hair and a little bit of facial hair.
Well, i mean we all have but you can see it because of the dark hair....you get my point.
It doesn't bother me.
What bothers me a lot though is her family mocking her for it on occasions.
What i wouldn't give to tell her mum to just shut the f up about it and worry about her own stuff.
But i know my gf woul hate that so i bite my tounge and try to change topics when it comes up or act clueless
"Oh? Never really noticed. I tend to look into her eyes, not the corner of her mouth" or whatever
She's the most beautiful person with the most beautiful soul i've ever met and no amount of body hair could ever change that.
The only person who's allowed to criticize anyone's body is me with my own cause i hit 30 and started getting a beer belly uuuurrrrggh
Fuzzy women need more love tbh
if a dude said "ive never felt a punch like this" he'd be the best boxer boy out there, if a woman does, shes suddenly amab(assigned male by boxing)
She's just been put in the male box(e).
Assigned male by boxing XD That's exactly what people have done to her
45:50 As a Brit, I am amused by the very appropriate typo of 'bigotry' as 'bigtory'. (For those who don't know, 'Tory' is the nickname given to the Conservative party in the UK.)
This transphobia has been paid for by Big Tory
We call conservatives “Tories “ here too so I’m using “bigtory “ for them too
My first thought seeing that: "'Transphobia is made up by Big Tory to sell more conservative votes!' Wait that's kinda true, actually"
5:48 Transvestitgation made me chuckle too
“The Bigotry of Big-Tory”
8:22 the "male skull" overlay transvestigators use is terrifying. why are the eye sockets so high up
Walten files skull
Talking about the hijab reminds of when someone mentioned how wearing one could be seen as "rebellion" and I mentioned (though I'm not Muslim) that it was likely because it was a symbol of faith in a society that vilifies said faith. It is important to draw a distinction between wearing hijab because you want to and wearing it because you are required to.
I hope that Imane has a movie made about what she dealt with. I am so proud of her getting her gold, her floral girlie glow-up, and all the other promotions she's doing on social media. Who would've thunk that a cis-het Muslim woman would be the hero we needed?
Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel): Am I a joke to you?
@@deadmanreading3152 ...shes a made up character, Imane Khelif is a real person, i think thats QUITE a difference
@@croissant2882Also Kamala Khan isn’t really written well
Somethinng I want to bring up is something that I saw a person refer to as Schrodinger's Transphobe. Women with naturally high testosterone regularly deal with accusations of secretly being men, an accusation founded in the idea that men are superior in all things, yet those women also face comments like "they weren't good enough as male athletes so they decided to fight/compeat with female athletes" firmly putting them in an inferior category. Plus, when afab people with naturally high "male" levels of testosterone decide to transition to male/nonbinary and embrace their masculinity (something I did) we get told that we'll never be men and that we're actually just woman who have a disorder of some kind and we "need help". Its a self perpetuateing cycle of bizarre conclusions and self justification so that the status quo can be upheld and those who are upholding it can feel justified in their unfounded anger and hatred.
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There aren't a lot of single-issue bigots- people who hate trans people but fight for everyone else's rights. People generally don't apply that hierarchical thinking to just one aspect of their lives.
As if transphobia wasn't harmful and bad enough, it harms even cis women. Why can't we leave those women live in peace. What baffles me is people literally refusing to believe that women produce testosterone. How those people passed school?
There’s no reason this should have been age restricted except transphobia.
Not to get personal but are you under 18? It wasn't she restricted for me at all
UA-cam is owned by an evil corporation happy to let people suffer if it makes them more money. Having said that, this video does directly discuss self harm and suicidal thoughts, so age restricting it makes some sense.
She definitely saw people saying she was scared to tweet and had to prove everyone wrong its like she spends all day searching her own name across different websites
i saw a video where a guy was saying she changed her profile picture everytime people made fun of it, so yea she def likes to know what people saying about her, at this point we can even bait her to say more incriminating shit and she would 100% take the bait lol
It couldn't be clearer that she fears the spotlight shifting to anyone who isnt her far more than she actually fears trans people.
Whaaaaat. The woman who changed her profile picture 3 times because random twitter users got under her skin? Neveeer
God, I feel so sorry for Jessie that she has to spend so much of her time defending her own existence instead of talking about a cool thing from Star Trek.
This! The "Culture Wars" part of the video where she talks about gaining recognition mainly through reacting to bigots was really heartbreaking 💔
This story should really have died out as soon as people found out being trans is illegal in Algeria. There is no argument even from a conservative's perspective.
That doesn't mean there aren't trans people in Algeria though. Meth is illegal too, and yet here we are.
@@woopimagpie but it puts to bed any discussion of Khalif being trans, because Algeria wouldn't ever submit a trans athlete
@@woopimagpie You kinda missed my point. Algeria has trans people but would never send a trans person as their representative cause, you know, they would be in jail if they found out.
But then again, we in the Netherlands send a child rapist as our representative and that's also illegal and sounds waaaaay more far-fetched somehow.
Maybe Olympic Committees are above their nations laws🤷♀️
@@Synthonym That's quite true I guess, but the Algerian Olympic selection committee are quite capable of breaking the law just like anyone.
I'm just saying it's possible, not that it's what they did. Something being illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
@@woopimagpie let's not do the job of the far right for them by wildly speculating on someone's gender despite the mountain of evidence.
I have no idea you were engaged, Jessie! CONGRATULATIONS!
It really gets on my damn nerves how people like Matt Walsh are doing the equivalent of pointing at a color spectrum and arguing endlessly with people that there are only two colors, WARM and COOL!!! This is REALITY!!! like the universe is taking notes from the English language about how it's supposed to be 🙄
That Warm and Cool colour metaphor is absolutely perfect and I’m going to steal it. Thank you!
I say, let her keep making her horrible tweets. It's just giving Khelif's lawyers more evidence to use against her.
Let her cook... her own "Henkersmahlzeit".
Fairness isn't a concern in sport. Biodiversity gave Michael Phelps a massive advantage that led him to win the most gold medals in the history of the olympics. Male chromosomes, t-levels etc MAY be advantageous in some cases but we ONLY police this shit when it comes to sex and never any other kind of inborn advantage competitors have and I think it's worth asking why that is.
the point of sports is that they're not fair. they're trying to find out who's the best and reward them accordingly. those who have pre-dispositions to be more muscular or have more endurance are those who succeed in sports. it's baffling to me that their argument is that it's "not fair" that someone would be stronger than their competition in a competition to find who's stronger
We separate categories based on sex (well a lot of sports have an open league and a women’s league) to encourage women to participate in sports. That’s it. If we didn’t people afab would basically never compete at the top levels which would inherently discourage young afab people from getting into the sport(S). So we’d live in a world where 99.9% of top level athletes (the ones that get media attention and recognition) are amab and 99% of them would be cisgender men. So to sum it all up: because representation matters.
Edit: a good way to illustrate this is someone like Serena Williams. She is probably one of the most skilled tennis players of all time. She got crushed by a mid ranked male player. Her technique and skill were significantly better than his, but she just couldn’t bridge the gap in raw power.
I know the Canadian Olympic Women’s Hockey team regularly plays against high School boys’s teams for training (they also do this because Canada’s population density and distribution is weird so it can be hard to have enough teams for them to practice against). The boy’s teams like it as the women are way better skilled and have superior training and the olympic team likes it as the boy’s are stronger and faster, but not so much that they just get overrun (the best way to get better at something is to compete against someone that is better than you, but only a bit better than you. If they are so much better than you that you basically cannot interact with them then you just wasting your time). Obviously this strategy is working for them as Canada DOMINATES women’s hockey. Out of the past seven Winter Olympics Canada’s women’s hockey has won the gold five times and the silver the remaining two.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 So instead of having a male and female league, you have two leagues separated by weight class where you take the median weight of participating athletes and draw the line down the middle. You'll wind up with sports like Tae Kwon Doe where people will train very specifically to be at the top allowable for their weight class and I think that's fine. A man and a woman who both train to be at top competitive build for 180lbs would probably be relatively well matched.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 did you see the part in the video that talked about the institutional challenges women have to face in sports?
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 we actually originally separated sports based on sex because male athletes didn’t like to be beaten by female athletes. You should research the formation of women’s sports categories.
Even if what you said was true (which it isn’t) it goes directly against what is currently happening, which is women (both cis and trans) being excluded from sport and discouraging women to participate in sports.
Afab people have always been able to compete in top levels. Sex assignment at birth has almost nothing to do with athletic performance. Place a trans man who has medically transitioned (afab) against a trans woman who has medically transitioned (amab) and almost invariably the trans man is going to win, solely due to androgenic advantage. Trans men do well in men’s sports. Trans women do not do well in women’s sports, statistically speaking.
Also, your point about Serena Williams is very weird, as Tennis is one of the few sports that actually has a mixed gender category and women routinely compete against men.
And the Canadian women’s hockey team example is moot as well, since we aren’t really talking about having men and women compete against each other in all sports, just how discriminatory and wrong it is to exclude trans women, intersex women and masculine cis women from women’s sports.
Oh, I waited for this video, honestly.
As an Italian transmasc, I saw the thing escalating in my country (especially from far-right politicians and figures), and the misinformation was basically everywhere, and people still think that they were true.
That’s so sad to hear
Imagine your loss in boxing being used to escalate transphobia, and having to go home and see your country become more dangerous for certain people because you lost at the Olympics. Obviously what Imane is going through is terrible, and potentially life threatening (trans people being criminalized in her country), but I also feel bad for Angela, because she has to live with the fact that this devastating loss was hijacked by bigots
@spongecakes1986 pretty much- the situation is pretty bad here.
They also wanted her being in the campaign for the bridge that would connect sicily to the rest of Italy (Which is bad for numerous reasons)
@@Shinyrobin0245 okay I know the bridge thing has nothing to do with the video but I'm curious now
@@Shinyrobin0245 omg i had no idea that salvini (?) wanted her on his side (sono italiana anche io, commento in inglese per gli altri lol)
The "male skull/female skull" pictures are hilarious. While there are _generally_ some differences _on_ _average_ between male and female skulls, those differences are tiny but in those pictures they're cartooinishly exaggerated. Forensic/archaeological examinations of complete skeletons only have a 70% chance or something like that to correctly gender skeletal remains.
my "favorite" transvestigation target of all time is andre roussimmof, who was better known as ANDRE THE GIANT.
Wait, someone tried to claim he was a woman?? That's beyond weird, especially since they almost always go after women.
My favorites either gotta be Kyle rittenhouse being FtM or Caitlyn Jenner or Elliot Page being FtMtF or MtFtM respectively.
Transvestigation is just so utterly unserious that it doesn’t even upset me and I must admit I occasionally look at people posting about it and laugh at them because it’s just so insane
This would be the equalivant of banning Tyson Fury because the average man is not 6ft 9 with an 85 inch reach
Michael Phelps also seems to be a biological freak. Imagine banning them over that.
@@dutube99 There aren't any height classes though
@@dutube99 Yes. Women's boxing has weight classes and Imane was appropriately competing in hers, what's your point?
Probably SHOULD have been investigated to make sure he wasn't a comic book character.
Wanted to say this before I could forget, part of the irony here to me is that boxing is uniquely protected from biological advantages. The weight class system is a pretty good way of avoiding unfair size and strength differences, since muscles have weight. If high testosterone levels were making Khelif just so much stronger than her opponent that it was a problem, she'd be in a higher weight class. Not to imply these would be valid concerns in a different sport but it's especially dumb in boxing.
Yup. She’s not even a heavyweight, she’s a welterweight.
For within sex based categories yes, the effect of different hormone levels is minimized, but combined sex categories? No, cisgender men would dominate in all weight classes. Males can get down to ~3% body fat whereas females can only get down to ~13% body fat. That means between a 100lbs cisgender man and a 100lbs cisgender women the man will have an additional 10lbs of lean muscle mass. Males also typically have different distributions of muscle and that distribution favours combat sports in particular (males can grow muscle mass in the upper body much easier).
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 this is moot in the case of trans women, as they are not “males”, and once they transition they have typical female fat levels/distribution.
I don’t think most people here are suggesting combined sex categories, merely that trans women should be able to compete within their actual sex category: female.
Never felt a punch like that is what I would have thought would have been the highest form of compliment one boxer could give another.
I thought so too! Is like in running say "I've never seen someone faster than them" It should be a f**ing complement
@@per-c8229woman good at sports, must be man 🤖 jk must be misogynist
Right? They were literally in the worldwide who-can-punch-best competition. 🥊
Yeh, it's almost like she didn't realise you might get punched hard in competitive boxing. It's literally the objective.
In her defence though, she seems pretty regretful of all the fuss it caused. She was obviously just caught up in the emotion of the moment and said something she regrets. We've all been there.
@@woopimagpie The bare minimum, tho is she regretful 'cause she now knows her opponent was a cis woman? or 'cause she understood how little sportsmanship she show.
Algerian cis lady here... I have tobsay that everything taking place in France had a veeeeeeery special flavour too. Being North African in Europe is a very particular experience, I don't know if people outside Europe can understand the historical weight and the perception of North African femininity in Europe (cuento the word Beurette)
Just a note: Afghanistan is not an Arab country. The term Arab is used imprecisely a several times throughout the video. Appreciate the video otherwise.
Her brain is cooked. Just completely boiled into oblivion.
There's more black mold in her skull than grey matter at this point.
That implies she has a brain left.
That would falsely imply she ever had a brain. With each passing day, I'm more and more convinced she is no more than a flesh mecha for the black mold.
Even that one french guy who was missing most of his brain was completely normal (legitimately he had a sizeable cavity at the center of his brain and nobody knew or even could tell. Its an amazing instance of the human mind being very good at maintaining itself despite all odds whiiiich-)
Makes it more odd that Rowling can't seem to pull off the same trick!
@@marcen12 it is but a lump of mold
Transvestigation is so easy. Step 1 do you like the person or figure in question? No? Then definitely trans.
OK, that's all the steps!
Who would have thought Matt Walsh, JK Rowling, Ben Shapiro and Dave Chappelle are all trans? Blaire White and Buck Angel are apparently non-binary.
Step 2: Make a powerpoint in comic sans.
On the plus side, JK has given me a great idea for a D&D villain: witch headmistress turned mold lich
That sounds awesome, can i steal it?
Franckly, might steal that idea for my compaign as well.
that sounds like an absolutely great addition to a campaign
She isn't bold enough to be headmistress. She probably views that as a man's job.
@@lyndsaybrown8471that's what makes the mold lich version fictional!
Old hermit here. Came to your channel cuz you have my favorite Trek takes on the net. Stayed for the education, thank you for the view into a lifepath not my own. Keep shining, thank you for your light and knowledge.
“As long as you’re doing stuff in the kitchen. …We’re a heteronormative family.” was unbelievably endearing. ❤
I am a Cis Caucasian boxer, or was back in my day. I can recall moments where we were told not to be as aggressive. What I fear the most is how homogeneous do they want sports to be? What about women with other natural advantages like broad shoulders, or better oxygen reuptake? No one ever accused me of being a dude, but I did face issues in my sport for being an aggressive fighter, and they did call me man hands. Which I pretended to shrug off, but there's more to be said on the male narrative control of women and women's spaces like sports
It's fascinating to hear that women are still being told they're being too aggressive and unladylike in the "punch people in the face until they can't take it anymore" sport.
@@Dryskle seriously! I was always left wondering "Isn't that why we're HERE? I hit her, she hits me, one of us eventually doesn't wanna take any more or goes night-night"
Same logic as the people who put female fighting characters in heels. They don’t want to face the reality of a woman fighter so they demand you overperform femininity at all times to coddle their fragile egos.
Was it just me or was the Italian woman's form so bad it was unbelievable she made it to the Olympics, when there's so many talented women boxers who i know could've filled her spot? She was not protecting her face at all, clearly. I'm a very amateur boxer so I couldn't say with confidence but I honestly smelt something fishy from the getgo. What are your thoughts?
wait do broad shoulders give you an advantage in MMA/boxing? i’m built like a dorito so maybe i should exploit it hmm🧐
Honestly, If I were that rich, I'd get off twitter and get that damn mold sorted out, Jesus Christ
I’d buy Twitter and take out the trash
Maybe the mold is like her muse.
Yeah like, in another situation I'd ask wtf is going on with her, but Joanne is obviously not well.
Thank you for speaking out on intersex discrimination and misinformation. I have many relatives with CAIS and they are all wonderful women
@Anna-Morden hating other people won’t get your parents to finally love you, sorry
"...J.D. Vance who jumped off the couch at the chance to..."
bravo, well done, 10/10, instantly liked
I truly like how you didn't make this video about JKR, but about the misogyny all women have to face in the world of sports. This was truly an astounding video!!
"You got your racism in my transphobia!"
"You got your transphobia in my racism!"
Two great hates that hate great together, I guess /s
I feel strangely comforted by the fact that you put it to words like this.
Truly a fucked up ouroboros of bigotry
8:08 I know that "Tranvestigations" is a stupid and harmful rethoric created by stupid and harmful people but Andrew Tate being accused by that crowd to be secretly trans is the funniest thing i have seen in a while.
People who have also transvestigiated Dylan Mulvany and claim she was actually AFAB, transitioned to a man, and is transitioning back to a woman.
Oh, they've gone after their own a bunch of times. Including Rowling.
real leopards eating face moment
Notice how trans people don't attack each other for possibly being cis
Moving the goal posts is what they've all been doing for years when it comes to their ideas about gender. And hearing Matt Walsh talk about intersex people like that gave me the ick. I forget what the exact statistics are in this day an age, but when I was in school nearly 20 years ago, I had a teacher that said, "1 in 75 people isn't born a circle or a square, yet we still keep trying to jam them into circle and square shaped holes."
I have a family friend who is intersex, she was assigned female, identifies as a woman, but can’t change her sex. It’s meant she’s run into several dangerous issues in medical settings, struggles to know how medication will work with her. Again, this is a woman that appears as cis, identifies as cis, but just happens to be intersex (only found out she didn’t have a uterus when she tried to have a baby) and somehow still gets all the medical discrimination!
What everyone seems to be forgetting in sports debates is that most top athletes are not average, they do have something about their body that is above or below average because that's how they can excell, like long legs for runners (of course it also takes hard work to use that advantage properly, the tools alone are not enough)
So why are we policing women for not having average testosterone levels but not policing anyone for having above average leg length? Because it would make just as little sense...
I love age restriction on a completely age appropriate video essay...
Not only do transvestigators claim, "We can always tell," they also act like they have low tier superpowers, like the ability to see through clothes, or the psychic ability to know someone's chromosomes. At least pick one of the cool superpowers, like shapeshifting.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9t We should obviously show transvestigators pictures of each other, let them do their stupid phrenology nonsense to "prove" the person they don't know is secretly trans, then send the links to the other. The chaos would be glorious.
Remember when they accused Brigitte Macron? You know, a woman who birthed several children?
Not relevent to the topic but Jessie going "these are fun" while bouncing the gloves together was so cute :)
I did sparring for a long time, and they are seriously fun!
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"TW: Trans people making out for a long time" and the first six seconds of this video had my mind going ELSEWHERE ngl
I am offended ...by UA-cam suggesting this would be upsetting to my delicate sensibilities. Nice work as usual.
It's a fact that everything is on a spectrum of diversity, but eurocentric thinking insists on everything is black and white, including skin colour because no one actually is either.
JK has literally made being a racist woman hating TERF her entire personality. The world is terrifying enough for afabs and women (trans or otherwise) and people don’t understand how I struggle to feel safe while I’m living on TERF island
Also, congrats on the engagement! 🎉 You two are so cute together 🥰
I wish you and everyone on terf island all the best!
@saraa.4295 I have a question, I keep seeing the uk being called terf island and being singled out for its transphobia in many online spaces. I understand there is absolutely transphobia here but could someone explain to me how the uk became the poster country for anti-trans that is frequently referenced when almost every other country on earth is even more transphobic, extremely so? I'm asking because as a scottish person, Scotland (not england) has one of the most extensive LGBT protection laws of ANY country in the entire world. Its literally ranked as one of the best countries for lgbt equality and rights.
It's not how we are as a whole, or even our laws, as they stand. It's the shear number of loud mouthed idiots with a platform that hail from here and unfortunately seem to have the ear of Westminster. We can only hope sanity will prevail..... it's not looking good!
@@pika6383 hey pika, pity it's just acwritten exchange, the Scottish accent is the best of all accents ;)
Now, i am not an expert, but i'll give it my best guess: england has on the one hand very restrictive gender confirmation procedures and a segregated healthcare system with terribly long waiting times. On the other hand the loudest transphobic english voices are terfs, famous ones even, while in america the loudest transphobic voices are the usual far right "thoughtleaders" like Shapiro, walsh and so on..
And it's an island..giving it a nickname just works better if you can add on island in the end ;)
First time i heard the term was when abigail thorne (philosophy tube) declared that as the most famous trans person in england she now is the "queen of terf island"
I don't understand her. She is so obsessed with this. It must be so exhausting to devote yourself to hatred, to search the internet everyday for something to get angry for. This is a bitter, miserable, and even weird woman. Just let people make their own decisions. It doesn't need to be complicated.
So Voldemort's racial ideology on biological purity was clearly a subconscious manifestation of the author's bigotry... 🤯
Well
I mean
Voldemort WAS a sorta synpathetic villain.
Kinda.
He had a sad childhood?
Nah, Voldemort said the quiet part out loud.
But the systemic racism and prejudice went beyond Voldemort. Dumbledore even says Fudge is prejudiced in book 4. Yet nobody thinks Fudge is pro Voldemort. The prejudice is baked into the foundation of the pro status quo Wizarding world. Nobody fought for progress or justice. They wanted Voldemort gone but kept the status quo after.
@@l.n.3372 excellent point - Remus Lupin
@@aprinnyonbreak1290wasn’t the excuse by the author that he was born evil because he was a child by rape or something?
some horrible horrible thing like that; just bad to say in general because of what it means the author probably thinks about people that happened to IRL
To me is insane how easily the justification of the harassment against Imane Khelif is debunk with just 1 fast read into a Wikipedia article where you can find she has been competing for a long time in that women boxing division, but also she also lost many matches against women before. At the end of the day, the transphobic rhetoric against Khelif (as well to other major figures in many other spaces of life) are a more "accepted" way to attack a woman and being racist, all hate relate and feed each other.
The thing i find really weird about this whole thing is the whole "we need collect delicate women" vibe. They are BOXERS, fighting is their job this isn't like some huge guy beating up his tiny fragile wife... It's people who chose to fight for sport, fighting for sport. Even if khelif was trans or a man i don't see it as bad for a boxer to be punched?
Another amazing video, Jessie! The policing of femininity is so sick, this constant pervasive judgment under the name of "protecting women" is baffling. I really hope this court case goes in Imane's favor
i cant help but feel that if Imani were 'conventionally attractive', this whole thing wouldn't be happening
if she was white yeah
Oh absolutely, the main basis those transvestigators usually have for even suspecting someone as trans is if they don’t deem the person in question looks “womanly enough” or “manly enough”, unfortunately most of the women even shown in the video aren’t considered conventionally feminine and people use that as a jump off point to accuse them of not being the sex they are claiming they are
@@confusedjello7292I mean that goes hand in hand with "conventionally attractive" tbh
Hi, Jessie. I'm really glad I came across your channel. I was raised in the Mormon Church, and it took me until I was 28 years old to realize that I was a lesbian, because the idea of being (whatever this bad thing is) was so forbidden, I never even allowed myself to consider it. I'd been in love with my at-the-time best friend for 8 months before I realized that's how I felt about her. Who did I run into, once I'd realized I was a lesbian? What today are called TERFs. I went to Michigan Womyn's Music Festival with my friends, and felt empowered as a lesbian for the first time in my life. I felt like a better kind of human being than I had ever been, partly because I was finally able to be myself, partly because I'd also left religion behind; but partly because I was part of a movement of women-born-women-for-women. I honestly didn't know there were justifications for viewing things differently at that point. And I needed that moment, even though if I'd entered a more inclusive environment I'd probably have had an equally powerful, empowering experience. I needed that identity so much, I continued to defend it even after I met trans women and began to learn more about their lives.
I'm still somewhat slow to "get it." I still struggle with the in-betweens, the places where the lesbian women I made friends with in the early 2000's who want nothing to do with trans women are "bigoted," instead of misguided. As time goes by, I lean further and further into the understanding that deciding you don't approve of trans people is a clear choice to be bigoted, not a legacy understanding that you just haven't had enough exposure to overcome.
This case, the boxer Khalif, has been what pushed me over the finish line. One of those old acquaintances was going off on how Khalif was a man, it had been proven, they transitioned, they had internal testes---all based off of false rumors that she was completely committed to believing, no matter if the rumors could be falsified with very little effort online. This was a POC woman throwing another POC woman under the bus, because of patriarchal standards that underly anti-trans beliefs. Khalif has everything I wish I had in a physical body; lean strength. The idea that she would follow up all these accusations with a photo shoot in patriarchy-approved feminine appearance rubbed me the wrong way--how would *I* feel if I had the body I wish I could have, but then had to "defend" my legitimacy as a human being by dressing up in what would, to me, feel like *drag*?
I find your videos challenging to my acculturation in both worlds; the straight, religious world, and the GL (bt) world that I originally encountered when I came out in 2002. I'm going to keep watching, because the ability to let ones assumptions be challenged and overturned is a requirement for an intelligent and ethical mind. Thanks for doing what you do, and helping this 50 year-old lesbian not be an anchor, a drag on the movement toward a more ethical world.
We need more people like you and for everyone to continue evolving 💪
It takes a lot of courage to be able to truly question your beliefs and accept whatever answer you find
While I love everything you've said here and I am so proud of you, a more 'muscular' woman dressing feminine shouldn't be described as drag, and if I recall from the interview involving that shoot, she does genuinely enjoy that clothing on her own from time to time.
Though I do believe the specific timing of the shoot felt like an attempt to 'prove' her womanhood and that itself is an issue.
You might find the podcast Latter Day Lesbian helpful and enjoyable.
love a little flirt break between fiancees in between the bigotry analysis
Trans joy is a glorious thing to witness. Hope I get to experience it someday.
Lol I did the thing! I assumed they were just roommates at first! Had no idea Jessie was lesbian (or bi/pan)!
@@SpecialBlanketoh my god they were roommates?!!
"This content may be inappropriate for some people. Would you like to continue?"
Of all the shit I watch, and all the horrific shit that's available on this platform, *this* gets a warning?