Just to address since I see a few comments asking; this video was just on the disingenuous framing of the film. Part 2, as I say in the video, will be a point by point breakdown of Walsh’s actual arguments. But it was important to point out first that none of the film was made in good faith first. Wish I could have released both parts at the same time but alas, welcome to needing to release content to survive. So be patient, don’t worry, this is just the start. And to those in bad faith asking “What is a woman” despite me literally pointing out how bad faith the question is in the video, don’t worry, you’ll get your answer next video. Tho I’d recommend Lily Alexandre’s work if you need an answer right now.
@homo sexual feminine mal6 whistleblower confession the fact that she isn’t male, duh. Would you say that to me a feminine trans man? Or will you tell me why couldn’t I be a feminine female?
His question reminds me of a classic exchange between a zen master and the dahli lama fro a dharma “battle”. The zen master produces an orange demanding “what is this”, the answer after consulting the translator was, “don’t you guys have oranges where you come from?” i figure if Walsh still doesn’t know after 4 kids and marriage, he’s in pretty deep trouble
Is the movie in good faith ? No it's obvious it's not. However the idea that something is true just because you really really believe it, is religious magical thinking on the same level as any other religion. Just because you believe something to be true does not make it true. Imagine if we applied magical thinking to other areas "it really hurts my feelings when you disagree with me that 2+2=15 !"
"Give my son a BB gun and that's about all the emotional support he needs. My daughter on the other hand..." Man, I feel so bad for both the children of Matt Walsh :') Not him calling his daughter too needy? Indirectly shaming her? And treating his son like he has no feelings? Scratch that, I feel bad for all the humans who come into contact with him. Such ideas hurt all genders. That man is clearly emotionaly stunted and needs therapy, not a public platform for those sexist and harmful ideas. Sounds like the kind of person who'd say "life's unfair, suck it up buttercup". Then, he should take own advice, and suck it up, instead of complaining on the internet and trying to tell other people how to live :D
Having dealt with many extreme right types in my lifetime, the sad thing is their kids usually end up one of 2 ways. The first, being someone who requires a lot of help dealing with mental issues caused by the toxic households they grew up in. They usually turn out to be decent people after they get the help that they need. The second, being kids that follow their parents and become as closed-minded and hateful as their parents are/were. These are the types that we had to deal with 5 years ago here in Charlottesville and the government had to deal with on 1/6/21.
Men not needing emotional support and just needing LITERALLY a gun is the exact attitude which leads to high suicide rates in men and why there are so many mass shootings perpetrated by men in the US. It’s not the only factor but it certainly greatly contributes.
@@AurizenDarkstar Just be very wary of confirmation bias. It is perhaps the greatest force dividing the ideologies of the world, and is present in every single one of them.
I can't get over how mat is simultaneously arguing points like "wearing a dress doesn't make a woman" and "if you wear a dress you're no longer a man" even thou they contradict because what actually makes a woman isn't the point it's just cruelty. The dude just straight up said he's a fascist and somehow he managed to go lower and lower past bedrock.
They really want to get to decide who gets to be "A Real [Gender](TM)" and force the ones that fail it to grovel to meet the hierarchical standards. They want to be the gender police and suspend your gender rights and you only get them back after their system deems you to have paid enough for your crime.
"It takes two to tango" is a unintentionally funny comment on the fluidity of gender roles, considering that tango got its start among working men in Argentina and would typically be danced by two men. Too bad no one told them that God's plan for tango was for it to be danced by one man and one woman.
@@thenson1Halo I always wipe my butt when I finish defecating, but how you connect that with tango is beyond me. Yes, tango was originally danced by male partners.
@@Draco19970125 Most people's genders match their sex assigned at birth, and a good many others have a firm, non-fluid sense of gender that differs from their sex assigned at birth. Some people do have fluid genders -- that's just an empirical fact. Biological sex isn't exactly fluid, but not everyone fits into a neat male-female dichotomy.
This reminds me of one of the most positive encounters I've ever had with a person who just learned trans people exist. So, I was going to a gym early in my transition, and I'd just stated on T and knew noticeable changes would be eminent. I reached out to the gym and said "Hey, So i'm a trans person and for the comfort of others and myself, I wanted to see if I could get permission to use the group changing rooms (a row of individual rooms fully isolated with a locking door). The Manager emailed me back and said he would love to meet with me and talk. I was nervous but agreed. Next day i go in and meet this amazing strong man with a bright smile. We sat and chatted and he told me he'd spent his evening looking up everything he could about trans people and wanted to know what they could do to make my use of the gym better and more comfortable. I was beside myself. He learned so much just to make sure he could accommodate one person and hope to better the gym for everyone. Anyway, when I see this kind of disingenuous nonsense it makes me sad. The trans community is so varied and vibrant but folks like Walsh will never know. They will never see the joyful tears of a person just being accepted without question. Thats very sad for them.
This is a wonderful story. Many thanks. Have you ever considered how vibrant and happy the community of those who directly oppose both transgender expression, practice and the narrative in general?
@@johngreylove1359 Have you ever listened to transphobes? They are miserable, the only thing they seem to to is complain about trans people, how is that a happy and vibrant community?
You are forcing others into being with you that’s not acceptance. You don’t accept yourself so why should everyone else be forced to accept you dressed up as what you think a women/man is🧢🤡. Unisex changing rooms is one thing but a women/men changing room being forced to accept you isn’t right for everyone else who didn’t agree to it.
@@lastlime3792 okay? advocate for unisex changing rooms like everyone else then. who the fuck actually wants to use public bathrooms lmao they're last resorts the least that can be done is providing way more privacy and well partitioned unisex cubicles are a good means to that end
@@johngreylove1359 yeah, they're miserable and trans people live rent free in their head. anger, anger, anger, hate, hate, hate. wake up in the morning, harass trans people on twitter, eat breakfast, spam trans youtube channels with hateful comments, go to work, spend 9 hours contributing to whatever, go home, watch pundits and shitstirrers and get roused to hate even more. if that's joy to you, I'm truly sorry
I also find it odd with the "it's ma'am!" woman, ppl are calling her "mannish" "aggressive", "typical male behavior", etc... BUT if this were a cis woman behaving this way, people would be calling her "overly-emotional" "little feisty spitfire", "bitchy", etc
Don't forget "hysterical" which originated as a misogynistic term. It had to do with the belief that a woman's uterus could detach and wander around the body, causing all sorts of psychological ailments, like speaking up for equal rights. No, there's no science to back this up, obviously, but since when has that ever been an obstacle?
We’ll that’s cause people with XY chromosomes are typically more aggressive and Xx chromosome people are more emotional than men. Good job you’re onto smt🙏
@@AmericanGutierrez18 I think it's a fine line. I'm a trans woman and back in school I was called a "sissy" quite a bit.... I was always quite emotional and people always said, "You're acting like a GIRL!" But now that I live as a woman, and being the exact same way people will say, "Typical male aggressive behavior" if I raise my voice or anything.... You can't win
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 In my other post as I pointed out if a cis man was behaving that way, Im sure he'd get accused of "acting like a girl" being all emotional, can't control his emotions, FULL of SOY, etc....
@@AmericanGutierrez18 actually, testosterone is show to be directly related to increased activity in areas of the brain that regulate emotions. tldr, people with testosterone are scientifically proven to more emotional then people without it
From Matt Walsh’s board wall of woman from 50s advertisements and model magazines leaves the impression that 1: He has never actually seen a woman before through a emotional or personal lenses, essentially suggesting that he’s unable to view woman as people and 2: He believes that there is a very specific idea of where woman belong which is incredibly problematic.
When you consider that Matt has a wife, I really worry if she's even allow to have a functioning brain around Matt. Like seriously, how the hell do you get married, have three kids, and still consider women to be this fucking magic trick of mysteriousness.
@@tashacooper1753 JESUS CHIRST THERE'S MORE!? Please somebody call social services on this man! Even one child isn't safe around Matt let alone *six.* (Obvious joke but don't actually do that)
@@DeadHandtheSurvivor Also with the mystery part he doesn't ask the question "What makes people the gender they are". People once again are forgetting trans men exist on top of misogyny. Ofc if you want to specifically look at the experience of the gender umbrella of women that in itself doesn't make you misogynistic and/or anti - transfem but the way this is done you know it is about treating woman as other worldly and is trying to use trans women to justify transphobic views as it is much easier to frame amab people as evil.
And the thing is they don't even really care what a woman *is* but rather what she's *supposed* to be. If a woman doesn't get close enough to their feminine ideal, even if she's cis, they think she needs to learn how to be a "real woman" to be worth the respect of being treated as a woman rather than a defective person who should be a woman. And the idea of what a woman is supposed to be varies a lot from culture to culture, and even throughout time in the same culture. Is she supposed to be outgoing or reserved? Should she be athletic? Delicate? How tall should she be? How much fat is she supposed to have on her body? Does a "real woman" decorate her skin with makeup and tattoos or does she forgo them? What kind of clothes are appropriate for her to wear? How is she supposed to treat her body/facial hair? These will all be different depending on where and even when you ask. Women who don't fit into the approved definition of women are often treated with confusion at the very least or outright scorn or condescending pity
@@morgannyan2738 As for you two: a cat or feline (two overlapping but not necessarily equivalent things, just like woman and female) is not easy to describe finitely either. You are not a cat. There is no fluidity between humans and cats, you never developed into or from being a cat, you probably don’t even talk to cats. Enough.
Identifying as a completely different species is wildly different than identifying as another gender in a species with relatively little sexual dimorphism, and a lot of overlap between biological sexes even in cases where people aren’t visibly intersex or considered intersex at all. You can’t become a cat or have a brain with explicit characteristics of a cat, because we are many years removed from cats on an evolutionary time scale. However, there is very little separating a human male from a human female. Even a person with XY chromosomes may, due to a series of events, have female sex characteristics. Thinking that our brains, our most complex organ, is completely free from these overlaps in sex characteristics when even our general body structure isn’t is absurd. Comparing transgender people to someone identifying as a different species is an argument that’s usually made in bad faith. I’m probably not going to continue a discussion after this
Someone once told my friend group -- (which had just clawed its way out of christianity and was therefore able to critically consider things without the thought-terminating abject fear that we and our families would be struck down with lightning or something for not being bigots anymore) -- that "trans is a descriptor". And it clicked so hard that I'm pretty sure that all of our descendants got knocked the fuck over. It is absolutely ridiculous for people to say that 'trans women aren't women because they are trans'. May as well say that 'brown-haired women aren't women because they have brown hair'. Black women are women. Short women are women. Fat women are women. Thin women are women. Indigenous women are women. Disabled women are women. Blonde women are women. Trans women are women. There are many different kinds and types of women in this world (...women are diverse, you might say. 🖖🏾✨) Trans women are merely one kind of woman. It's literally not rocket science, and it's sad that so many people (like Matt Walsh) are trying to make things so difficult to understand. o7
Matt Walsh: All I want to know is honestly, what is a woman? Like an honest answer. Professor: Oh sure, I can explain it. Matt Walsh: *very clearly censors his answer rather than let his audience think or question* His audience: Oh my God he really is speaking truth to power and being completely honest!
I've been recently made aware of how morals are spread through media generally trying to answer their own questions, even when they do show both sides it's usually done to make one look better than the other, the only examples of showing both sides on a level playing field I can think of is arcane and jujutsu kaisen because they show a lot of different views without making one seem more or less fair than the other
@@airplanes_aren.t_real I think HXH and Vinland Saga do a good job with this as well! Dishonored 1 as a game as well, I mean some of the characters aren’t as fleshed out as I would like, but the DLC literally lets you play as the main antagonist! It makes you empathize with all the characters. Wish more media was like that, it’s the most human kind.
@@bee1411 agreed, I've seen a lot of parents complain about the morals taught to their children, not just through media but also teachers and friends because a lot of it is either not applicable or presented as a black and white option Ex: sharing is caring I hope that this type of stuff gets more coverage
@@philipjohn1254 I'd honestly like to hear it because from what we could hear it was fascinating. I wonder if the Professor has a full answer somewhere. He could put it online: "The answer Matt Walsh doesn't want you to hear.", as a sort of tongue-in-cheek jab at Walsh's claims that he's being "censored" while actively censoring anything that doesn't fit his narrative.
Matt using a fishing pole as a benchmarker for why his daughter is different from his son is so hilariously and specifically ‘city conservative’. As someone who grew up in the conservative south just below the Bible Belt, there are entire sects of girls who fish and hunt and do Boy Things because that’s just a part of where we live. Fishing, hunting and mudding are top date activities.
Not quite the same experience, but I grew up in a suburb very close to the coast and various bays. All my friends and I, regardless of gender, were taught to fish by our conservative fathers lol. It was treated like a rite of passage. Because fishing was just considered a fun activity. Who knew, amirite!?
@@vylbird8014 It's lazy and tacky to put so little effort into a video that you claim to care about as Matt Walsh and his lackeys did in "What Is A Woman?" They're either inept or soulless, and likely both. That's not really news with conservative political media, though.
@@vylbird8014 Bolster the impression of production value? Like, if you look at the works of Dan Olson or Jacob Gellar or Matt Parker, you can definitely enhance all kinds of non-nature documentary work with clever use of location footage, or just plain good quality custom visuals in general. Pre-covid, most tv documentaries tended to deliver content to the camera while walking to interviews. And that's not to say that there's anything wrong with making a documentary or video essay with obvious B-Roll, but it defintiely offers its benefits.
Jessie, this is a masterpiece. You are - as always - so charming and well-researched and SO GODDAMN FUNNY, HOLY SHIT. I am so proud to have you as a friend 😭💜💜💜
The point where Patrick realizes Walsh's intent is fascinating to watch and almost sad? He seemed so disappointed and flustered. I think it really shows how people in the alt-right and general bigots conflate debate and interview. Reminds me of the clip from a Ben Shapiro interview where the interviewer did ask genuine questions, and Ben didn't know how to deal with the pressure so he went into debate mode.
yeah i thought honestly the prof was being a good educator. people who teach shouldnt be giving you answers, they should have pushed you to seek the answer yourself, providing the necessary resources for it but not, again, being the one who decide for you what the answer is. even more so when they teach at uni level or higher. wait i had the idea how to tie this point to earnestly respond and add to yours but i lost the thought lmfao damn. rip in peace. 💀💀💀
The strangest thing to me is that the intent of the questioner is the most important thing to Patrick, rather than answering a straightforward question. The answer to a question should not change based on the intent of the asker. It's like a highly religious person realizing that the person asking the question isn't religious and getting flustered because the answer depends on the unquestioning faith of the listener.
@@dawest767 Walsh is holding interviews on false-pretenses, editing his documentary to literally skip when Patrick does answer the question, and asks disingenuous questions expecting a certain answer. That is literally a loaded question fallacy. Also, intent is extremely important in conversations. If I enter a conversation intending to have a good-natured chat, and the person I’m talking to enters the conversation intending to mock me, that will absolutely change how I respond to any questions asked. If Walsh asked Patrick for a debate it would be fine. But he didn’t, Walsh asked Patrick to have an honest conversation, whilst also lying directly to him. Catching people off-guard and pretending like it’s a gotcha moment and blaming the person for being caught off-guard is so elementary level shitty, that it’s insane you don’t realize it
@@RyanKeithLever Unfortunately the "beliefs" that Patrick holds are based purely on ideology and semantics, and not on objective reality. Thus, they can't be defended, and depend upon the listener buying into the ideology. That's why people like him fight so hard to censor and shut down all opposition, because there is no rational or objectively logically defensible argument. A "belief" that can't be logically defended is a garbage belief. There is no political or ideological leaning to that - beliefs that can't be defened with logic are garbage. IF the beliefs had a basis in logic, the intent of the listener would. not. matter. There is no subjectivity in truth.
@@hotcoco2789 All of this would be a lot more convincing if any of those folks interviewed could answer one simple, straight forward question: "What is a woman"? You are effectively telling me that he did ask them this question, that they HAD the answer, that they GAVE said answer and that Walsh edited it out. Considering all the waffling about they do, this seems inlikely. I would be interested in seeing the whole interview unedited, but i sincerely doubt that there was much editing involved, when these people make themselves look THIS bad. The very fact that they start to squirm under certain questions means they RECOGNIZE how controversial the topic is.
It's also a common tactic of domestic abusers to provoke their victim until the victim reacts, and then use that reaction (often out of context) to "prove" their victim is unstable, incompetent, or "dramatic". As someone who has experienced this far too many times: if anyone, ever, provokes you until you react and then uses that reaction against you, please at least consider exiting that relationship at the earliest safe opportunity.
It's the adult version of the schoolyard "I'm not touching you!" (pokes their fingers 3 inches from your face until you shove them away, then claims you started it because you touched them first)
Just because you are provoked does not mean your actions are justified. If someone keeps mockingly saying something like, “You wish you were capable of stabbing me, loser,” I think we should agree that you should not be able to stab that person. I can be more sympathetic to someone who is provoked, but your actions are your own responsibility.
@@krossraig7370 My point was "someone provoking you so they can use your inevitable reaction against you is a red flag" not "any reaction you make after being provoked is justified". I was focusing on the provoker, not the provokee.
"Demons would sometimes use they/them pronouns" For no good reason I want to break this single sentence down. Angels are, to start with, genderless. Even the conservative church I grew up in recognized angels as genderless, though sometimes referred to in a masculine manner, similar to God who is either every gender or no gender. Individuals who are considered demon possessed in the bible do not have a singular demon , they'd have a fucking army in there. They/them is simple practicality when you are sharing a body with a whole legion. The use of they/them has nothing to do with evil. In fact, though the English translation doesn't reflect it, biblically God starts out not being referred to in a gendered manner, but overtime is referred to in the masculine, probably only for the sake of people understanding it easier.
There's a hilarious angelology book I read to kill time at church, where the author insists that angels should be represented as vaguely masculine because it would be "too scary" if they were a blend of male and female. I think the flaming swords are a bit more scary personally
@@necrodeus6811 Skin made of bronze and eyes full of fire is where I'd shit bricks, personally, and if that didn't get me the IMMENSE WINGS THAT BLOCK THE HORIZON WITH THEIR VASTNESS would. I can barely even fathom standing at the foot of the 21 meters tall unicorn Gundam in Japan and I can SEE COMPARISON PICTURES of that, something made of fresh-casted bronze with fiery eyes and sky-wide wings????
Transphobes forget that the use of she and he is a modern addition to the English language. Even with the changes in language, use of they is still the default when referring to a human in general.
Did Walsh really just say that pronouns describe biological reality? It‘s so weird to me that some people assume that grammatical gender in language has absolutely no point but to convey biological reality. Maybe that‘s because I‘m german and we use feminine, masculine and neuter articles for our nouns. The German sun takes the feminine article and therefore also the feminine pronoun. I know that in Spanish for example, the sun takes the masculine article. Does that mean that speakers of these languages see the sun as either biologically female or male? Of course not. I‘ve also seen English speakers use either “he“ or “she“ for inanimate objects. So why is it so difficult for some people to accept it when human individuals tell them, that they prefer a certain pronoun being used for themselves? We‘ve been using pronouns for our cars and ships all the time and these objects certainly didn‘t care about that. Okay I might add that the objects also couldn‘t correct us about pronouns and maybe that‘s making the difference here. People hate to be wrong. The real problem is not the pronoun itself. It‘s the refusal to accept a person‘s identity when it differs from the own viewpoint about gender. It‘s so frustrating when transphobes use this type of argument. And then there also this whole point of “We can‘t change the rules of grammar“. Hey but at least he‘s right about that: Calling a man a “she“ is often an act of confusion. But that’s not only true for cis men. Most trans and cis men are not comfortable with others referring to them as “she“, or so I‘ve heard.
In the end it's a matter of passing the requirements for a certain optical standard. What I realised is that people like Matt Walsh vilify people like Dylan Mulvaney as examples of how the "trans ideology is bad" because their optics reveal their transition in a sense that they don't look immediately like one or the other binary gender. Identifying a cis man or woman is easy, because mostly they can be recognized and categorized in a simple and easy manner due to the first impression they give off. If a trans person would fit that mold and pass as their identified gender on first glance, then even Matt Walsh wouldn't immediately be able to deduce their transition and therefore wouldn't be inclined to question it, as the societal value of that person in his eyes would conform to his conservative perspective. In the end it really comes down to an inherent acceptance of people for who they are, which people like Matt Walsh can not do for religious reasons for example.
I'm a cisgender woman, who was a cisgender girl growing up, and I would have been thrilled to get a fishing rod for my birthday. I went fishing on my own all the time as a kid. That's the thing that really kills me about these very narrow views of gender and identity; people say, "We all know that's boy stuff," or "We all know that's girl stuff," but there are so many cisgender kids that don't even fall into those categories. And when you point that out, people say that the kids who were anomalies in these narrow definitions were just confused or warped somehow; I liked fishing (and still do now, though I rarely have the chance to go now that I live in a city and don't have a car) because it's peaceful and quiet, I didn't have to talk to anyone and I could just focus on what I was doing without having to worry about an outcome because you just never know if you're going to get a bite or not (this is a built in conceit to fishing, which made it a low pressure activity perfect for just being in the moment and just existing while doing it). There are plenty of humans who wouldn't enjoy fishing as a solo activity, or at all; male or female, cisgender or transgender. Plenty of people that do enjoy fishing. When you get down to the brass tacks of what fishing amounts to as an activity (standing or sitting around waiting for a bite) what does gender have to do with it? And if anyone tries to pull the whole fish are slimy and gross so women and girls don't like fishing: kitchen duties (which are traditionally thought of as women's work/a woman's domain) involved preparing food, which included butchering animals, plucking birds, descaling and gutting fish. Not to mention the huge numbers of meals that call for using intestines and other "gross" parts of an animal. Women were also traditionally involved in slaughtering animals before that became an industrialized process. Womanly constitution can handle some slimy fish, even if individuals may not want to and choose not to.
@@cheers2157 A masculine woman? Why because she likes fishing? You know there are cultures in the world right now that consider fishing to be “women’s work” right? Many tropical islands have women who routinely fish as a matter of course. Often times even for a living. Just for example. Jesus Christ are Americans just fixated on black and white thinking or something? You can literally buy specialised female oriented fishing gear where I live.
I think your analysis of Matt and people like him at the end is very accurate. Before I came out as trans I fell down the the conservative rabbit whole with people like Matt, Ben, and even Steven crowder. Looking back I followed them because they validated what I thought about myself. Their views on trans people were how I thought of myself especially from growing up in a hostile church and home environment, so I didn't watch them to learn or feel good about myself. It was the exact opposite. I watched them to reinforce how much I hated how I felt. Looking back and thinking more critically it is easy to see their flaws in their arguments.
I also went down a similar rabbit hole. But now looking at how they talk about trans people and trans issues I notice how disingenuous, condescending their coverage on trans people is.
To be honest I fail to see what the issue is with some folks being trans, if your cis what skin do you have in that fight beyond supporting defending your lovely trans friends from this sort of unwarranted attack people like Matt Walsh make. If he and his sort laid off people could be who and what they are & every one would be much happier.
10:05 - "As for men who claim they have many dear friends that are women, they're either gay...or they're lying." This illustrates perfectly something I've seen all too often. I'm an ace guy, and many people in the LGBT community (but *especially* gay men) often act like aces face no discrimination...ignoring that to most people, our asexuality gets interpreted as cloaked homosexuality and are treated accordingly. I hate to hijack, but that moment was just such a wonderful, almost-instantaneous showing of how aces get rolled into the gay demographic by people making generalizations while that's overlooked by the larger queer community.
There's that, it also shows Walsh is utterly disqualified from claiming to represent reality or 'commonsense,' neither of which could *he* define, certainly not by actual social experience or insight.
I also just commented about this moment. I'm an Ace man in a committed relationship with a woman, and my best friend is a female. She actually sent me this video. It feels like these people are projecting their own predator feelings onto others.
Lol I have a female spouse and one of my best friends is a woman. So that makes me gay or a liar? Nice lack of logic dude. Sorry you can't hang out with a chick without your twig and berries taking over of your tiny brain.
@@laurebourgeois7256 I don't know what the "standard man" is, but there are many heterosexual men who have friendships with women, if that's what you're referring to. Also, I think OP's point was that Walsh would characterize men such as himself as "gay", which, according to Walsh himself, he would.
While I think asking the question of 'what is a woman' isn't that helpful in the grand scheme of things, it is one question I find intriguing though sometimes overwhelming and scary. Still, I would've loved to hear what the social studies professor had to say and honestly I would've loved this documentary if it were done right. If he went in with his point of view, but open to being challenged and learning something new.
Yet another honest, reasonable discussion of an incredibly difficult (and exhausting) topic. I hope you're taking lots of chill time to geek out and do things you enjoy between tackling this documentary, it's not an easy one to get through.
I think the dictionaries ought to have an entry for the “conspiratorial ‘they,’” where the word is used to imply an unspecified shadowy cabal pulling the strings, in sentences like “That’s what they want you to think.”
One of the more frustrating tropes the Right Wing deploys is the performative, face-scrunched-up-like-a-used-Kleenex, "bUt I dOn'T uNdErStAaA-aAnD!" intonation when something extremely obvious has been stated. It's all grift, all the way down. Sure, Walsh may well be an "idealogue" (which presupposes the existence of "an idea" in his head), but there's far more mileage to be gained by understanding that they don't actually believe *anything* - the entire world is performance art for them. In a way, their rejection of "post-modernism" is the ultimate irony - nobody embodies the metareality of Baudrillard, and the absence of context of Lacan more than these hateful people. Absolutely amazing video, Jessie. Know that you are loved and supported, and (allow me the flex) as a forty-something (mumble-mumble) cis-het white guy, I will do what I can to spread the message of tolerance and love for all.
Ugh I absolutely *loathe* the term "common sense" it's often used to victim blame people who fall for things the person who "has common sense" would nEveR fall for, or used as an ambiguous term that means the person with "common sense" is right and you're wrong! Common sense is a completely arbitrary and subjective concept, and I really wish the term would die... The old dude who said he "knows because of common sense" literally only used it because he knows if he said the actual reasons, his hate would've been much more obvious. (Not that it was very well hidden in the first place) Sometimes I find it difficult to see how others don't catch the hidden meanings and intentions behind reactionary content? Especially when it's more innocuous and non political, I actually struggle with paranoia, so it's like "am I overreacting here...?" Ugh I just hate this reactionary shit, great video Jessie!!!
Is Socially Constructed Gender Common Sense? Transgender is only selective blind! The unquestionable truth that is sacred and inviolable! Is Transgender a Religion or Crazy Fundamentalism! Extortion all day to force others to obey!
I usually respond that "common sense" is better understood as "shared sense" than "prolific sense". If we don't share a sense, it's definitionally not common.
I had and have several male friends and most of them are not gay and I'm not a lesbian for having friendships with men! How can people create such absurd prejudices! men and women can be great friends ❤ very good video
I agree. I’m bi, but I have both male and female friends. And yet, I’m not necessarily gay, I’m attracted to both men and women. It is entirely possible to be attracted to women, and also to just be friends with them without any romantic feelings or desires attached
I'm from Aberdeen (sort of) and what that store owner did to the woman in that video was awful. He tried to campaign for her to be removed from the city council and when people came to peacefully protest across from the store (he should have been fine with this, after all they're just holding SIGNS which he firmly believes we all have a right to display, unless of course he only thinks he does) he had counter-protesters outside. I remember there being several guns and slurs involved on their end. I'm happy to report that his store, which has been open for long before I was born, is now closed. Too bad sir, guess 9 out of 10 people in the community DIDN'T love your sign.
So lie much? He didn't have counter protesters there. The protesters came on thier own! And actual men showed up and did man shit and now you want to whine about it, way to prove Matt's point!
I love that professor so much. I'm surprised at Matt Walsch (maybe I shouldn't be) for questioning why a social science professor is so interested in talking about social interaction as it pertains to gender and the use of pronouns in casual conversation.
Jessie, you are a QUEEN for going out and doing interviews in your adorable beard! The bravery and the self assurance - I adore you. Love it. I'm enjoying your video so much so far, but I just wanted to say thanks for being your unapologetic delightful self.
There are two ways to get a high rating on Rotten Tomatoes. The hard way is to make a film so brilliant that it speaks to all people and dazzles everyone. The easy way is to make something so terrible, only those who will love it will attempt to watch it.
You people missed the point, Matt by saying that meant his son doesn't need explanations on who he is and he is not confused about his personality, he just wants cool stuff which for him is a bb gun and play with it and just be an 8-year old. And it's not that he is deprived of emotional support, no. When I was a kid I just wantes books and Lego's, didn't need any "emotional support" or whatever you guys mean by that. So think about it, because if you don't have any contrargument to that, then you're just hating him for the sake of it. At least that's the way I see it, please explain it to me if you disagree.
@@David232x what he said was his daughter needs emotional support and his son just needs a bb gun... which implies his son doesn't need that kind of support. Which of course he does. Giving him a toy gun is not helping him get through the perils of childhood development. He's acting like his son is incapable of going through emotional distress which is not at all true. What happens when he gets in a fight with his friends? Or one moves away and he's alone in class? Or a family member dies? He still has emotional needs like his sister and his father doesn't even acknowledge it.
@@David232x also a little girl isn't asked what they want for their birthday and say "emotional support". They ask for toys too. It's just for some reason for little girls it's accepted that they are allowed to have emotions but not little boys. Everyone needs someone, needs love, needs attention and help figuring out how to navigate life and learn who they are, regardless of gender
oh thank god my parents watched this recently and are obsessed with it and i wanted someone to break down some of the claims made because my mom won’t shut up about it but i could only find people breaking down the first segment; god bless you for being willing to wade through this shitstorm 💕
I have to admit... His tactics worked on me. Thank you for helping me uncover my biases. Hopefully, going forward, I can try to be more understanding of my trans cousins. Thanks and subbed 🏳🌈🏳️⚧️
It worked on you because he's right. You're being manipulated by insanity. Get out of it. You know deep down what gender you are. Why would you let someone talk you out of it? These people don't care about you. They want you confused. The more blind followers they have to push their agenda, the better. Don't let them do it to you. Think for yourself.
Comparing Matt Walsh to Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, and then to Shakespeare's Puck, was very generous of you. I happen to like both of those characters but not necessarily Matt Walsh.
"Give my son a BB gun and that's about all the emotional support he needs..." Poor, poor kid. What an asshole dad thing to say though, seriously! That's the kind of bs attitude towards "raising boys" that nearly ruined my childhood. Edit: Jessie picked up on that a few seconds later in the video. Of course she did- and she points out exactly why it's a horrible thing to think about your own child. -"Just bottle it all up son, don't you dare come to me for 'eMoTiOnAl SuPpoRt'. You do that, I'll think your gay, OBVIOUSLY. And you KNOW how I FEEL about THE GAYS..." I can just picture the scene: -"Don't you start crying while I'm being hateful and demeaning towards you or you'll get the belt, SON! I JUST told you, BOY: Crying is GAY. You want to go to Christian torture camp? Do you?" But you know, they want to "protect the children!" and all that... Give us a break. Edit-Edit: If he's arguing that it should be illegal for a queer identifying person to teach children in schools because they might spread their so called "gender ideology" to otherwise ignorant children. Then I'm sure we can all agree that someone who self identifies as a "christian fascist" which is an actual political ideology as opposed to a personal identity, should be nowhere near children's education either. And yet he and the daily wire and Prager """university""" are CONSTANTLY pushing their very serious and historically proven to be genocidal incoherent political ideology upon children in a variety of ways, and with organized top-down structural funding by billionaires who have openly and repeatedly professed their deep disdain for science, democracy, human rights and the entire f'ing planetary ecological environment!
you're projecting your past on others, and you totally failed to understand what Matt meant when he said that, read my other comments so maybe you will
I'd no idea who this Matt Walsh person was but a few weeks back I kept getting spammed on youtube with adds featuring this guy asking people what is a woman and even with no context of what it was I knew they were disingenuous. It was the footage of him asking some San people the question along with questions about transgender people but using all English terms. It reminder me of the story of some americans in the early 50's going to a remote Irish island where Irish was the main language to ask the women about the quality of their sex life but as the local women weren't familiar with the English words they were being asked like orgasm the visitors concluded they'd never had an orgasm. I thought heres another arrogant westerner pushing their view point with no understanding of the local culture and flagged it to youtube to never show me this ad again yet I still had it pop up several more times.
@@monsterglacier You mean the video that starts instantly with "he's a monster, warning"? Yeah, what a purely unbiased source of truth it must be that it'd never lie to its audience.
@@Mant111 Just because a statement is inflammatory doesn't necessarily mean that it's biased. Hitler was a monster " is example of a fairly true statement that doesn't require political disagreement with the person. Willfully attacking other people's human rights is monstrous.
The 'men aren't ever really friends with women unless they're gay' bit is just sad. Almost makes me want to feel bad for the guy if he wasn't such a monster. The fishing pole thing was pretty funny as well. My daughter was thrilled when we got her a fishing pole. I don't even fish but my dad does and it's been a great way for them to bond. My 18 month old son loves playing with dolls, I don't want to think about how someone with Walsh's mindset would react to that. He also loves his toy cars, trains, mini basketball hoop, etc. Point being, none of this should ever be a cause for concern.
Danny Elfman plays with dolls and he's the buffest 70 year old you will ever see. He also has a lot of female friends despite being straight, it's attitudes like that which make it easy for fake female friends to get away with false accusations of sexual assault.
A woman is an identity. It's a social understanding of the female gender. That's it. It includes a lot of potential descriptors (long hair/breasts/vagina/giving birth/chromosomes/dressing in a feminine way, etc) but they don't all apply to some women. Even assigned at birth females may have no breasts, may have short hair, cannot give birth, have different chromosomes or dress in a masculine way. Society is constantly changing as well, so those descriptors may even be out of date in the future. A good analogy is describing myself as a fan of pop music. If I say I'm a fan of pop, I doubt right-wing trolls would come out of the woodwork to ask "but what IS a pop music?" To define a genre, all you can do is gesture to the way we categorize it. "Pop music" doesn't exist in an objective sense. It's just certain sounds that we have arbitrarily put into a box. And pop music, too, is constantly changing. It's not an easy concept to grasp but as long as you show intellectual honesty you can understand it.
@Rat Nix Bruh I'm a trans woman and still get checked for prostate cancer and have never heard of anyone else not doing it just because they're trans, I have literally no idea what you're talking about
@@lilstevechan8427 It's not actually. Male/Female/etc in reference to biology is about the gametes an organism produces be they plant animal so on and so forth. Thus not an arbitrary comparison.
Is it really surprising how many kids end up broken enough to attempt or commit mass shootings when they are given guns and told that that's the only emotional support they deserve because they were born a certain way? When I was first taught to shoot it consisted of emphasis that guns aren't toys and how to safely use and take care of them, even if they were just an air gun or .22, not telling me this is a toy that now defines my manhood and implying I should use it to solve any emotional issues I may have.
what a fucking stupid comment, you really have no idea on raising Kids do you, you just care about your worldview, read my other comments so maybe you'll understand what Matt really meant when he said that.
Especially when the professor asked him, and he replied with something along the lines of “you really don’t want to answer the question”. Lmao who’s not wanting to answer the question? Cuz it just sounds like he is the one covering his ears and screaming to not hear the answer
The wild thing is the people he's asking don't even bear the burden of proof; he does. "You seem to take as a premise that woman has a stable definition. I reject that premise. Define 'woman'. Now define 'adult', 'human', and 'female'." And the tunnel--nay, the cave complex--only gets darker for the gender realist from there.
Matt Walsh's answer to the question is "a woman is a female human being". That is kinda the point he is trying to make with this mockumentary, that none of the people who disagree with him HAVE a definition and should therefore be discounted. He is trying to ridicule the people who disagree with him, thus casting doubt on their position.
@@Alexander_Kale His definition has the same problem as the definition he's criticizing, but multiplied threefold. "Adult", "human", and "female" are all culturally constructed. As are "female", "human", and "being". Furthermore, if "female human being" is, in fact, his definition, it fails. On its face, it describes girls--who are not women--and is therefore overinclusive. Furthermore, as I said before, the assumption that Mattricia's interlocutor bears the burden to define "woman" is misplaced. That burden properly falls to the party asserting that a "stable definition" exists. To suppose otherwise is to excuse circular reasoning.
As a human we always strive for more, as a person growing up rural West Virginia I wasn't educated in a lot of things , racism homophobia transphobia it's all words that people use to hate on anothers. I know I'm not articulate but watching you Jessie helps me understand that there's so much good in this world that we can have faith that will we have our place in the Sun.
This is the true question that everyone should be asking. For there are billions Cis and Trans Women out there in the world and we must find out how we as a species, treats these members of society.
This reminds me of the TLOU2 controversy where people didn't see Abby as a woman because she was muscular. So even if you're born a woman, but you built yourself differently, you're not a certified woman according to these people.
Bruh. That's not the only reason people hated TLOU2. They hated it because they either killed off or belittled the characters we liked, and forced us to like characters we don't care about, not to mention that GODAWFUL sex scene.
@@jeremyusreevu237 Calm down, the OP only said that there was a controversy around Abby's gender because of her build, they did not comment on the quality of the game whatsoever.
GET READY FOR THE TROLLS Also 4:36, the “only meant to be for Matt Walsh’s right-wing audience” sounds REALLY like what Thought Slime talked about in “The Most Hateful Book ever Read”. What a coincidence that these books were meant to bring people to their most extreme. I wonder what’s happening. And get this man out of my NYC. Now.
I thought of a few things, but the two that stood out was a song Sarah de Jager, which was about one of the top fishermen in Namibia in the 70s & 80s that happens to be female. The other was Johny Clegg who was a Zulu. Therefore his skin colour didn't stop him to be a Zulu. The other question to Mat would be whether Michael Jackson was black or white.
It's typical for conservatives of a privileged demographic to speak with so much arrogance on struggles they have no idea about and dismiss the real, lived experiences of people different than them.
You get hate because all y’all do is bitch and moan about inclusion and when you’re included…. Which also means being criticized you cry bigotry and call everyone phobes. Either grow up and accept it or shut up.
The scene with the kids' birthday party where all the boys are wearing blue and doing "boy" things and all the girls wearing pink and doing "girl" things, is giving me strong "But I'm a Cheerleader" memories. But also, it's like Matt Walsh and other conservatives ALMOST get it. When they talk about the differences between boys and girls, they almost always point to non-sex-related things; like behavior, mindset, social differences, and emotions. Conservatives lean on a lot of bad stereotypes, and they don't believe there's any gray area or overlap between boys and girls. But they do understand (on some level) that gender is not just genitals or chromosomes or gonads. It should not be that big of a leap for them to embrace that gender identity is a thing and that sometimes gender identity is different than assigned gender.
It's honestly kind of scary. I hope they have compassionate adultsi n their life who model emotions and help the kids talk through feelings when they are overwhelming or just new.
honestly i saw a video of him reading a childrens book he wrote for kids and he had no feelings towards to the children other then trying to shove his views down their throat. at one point he asked them and they are 5 or 6 years old do you know what a bigot is.
You know what I find most chilling is "Give my son a bb gun and that's all the emotional support he needs". And we WONDER why gun violence is so rampant, especially in our schools. Like... they all like to make fun of "emotional support" animals, but... an emotional support gun??? *sigh*
It's worse than that, it's emotional repression and misogyny-- you're not "a man" if you have emotions that aren't anger or stoicism-- or you're gay if you have emotions-- because that's a woman's trait. So gay men aren't MEN according to that logic.
@@Mant111 Sir, if you don’t consider having to affirm your masculinity by making kids have their only source of emotional support being guns, you may need to get help. Honestly.
@@peskypigeonx If you can't tell a joke from reality, maybe it's you who needs to touch some grass. It's amazing how many cultists took the BB gun joke seriously. What frauds.
I can imagine a better What Is A Woman? documentary not by Matt Walsh. One where women, trans and cis, are asked "what is a woman to you" and "how/what do you feel preventing as a woman." Men can be interviewed their gender, enbys can talk about how society forces gender on people, scholars can explain the psychology and sociology of gender. Edit: maybe trans-medicalists could be interviewed with some pressing questions opposing their views, followed by someone else explaining how harmful and gatekeepy it is. It could've been really good.
The problem is that there's no answer to that. You ask them "what is a woman" and they have no definition. That's the problem that Matt Walsh seeks to highlight with his videos.
@@Mant111 As Jessie explained so thoroughly in a video I'm starting to think you haven't actually watched, Matt Walsh is not even remotely attempting to actually do that.
This is exactly why I love your videos. You're able to make a horrible, angering and upsetting topic something enjoyable to watch. The way your videos are edited, the way it breaks up the bad stuff and has humour in it, really makes the bad stuff watchable. Please take care of yourself, it can't be easy watching it all❤️
I felt so disgusted when he said, "Give my son a BB gun, and that's all the emotional support he needs." I grew up with a father he was a conservative "manly man" and I couldn't be emotionally open with him. Being raised to ignore your feelings and just "be tough" is so toxic.
While the “what if I identify as a black man” argument sounds strong on the service, it reeks of false equivalence to me as it assumes that identifying as a black person is effectively the same as identifying as a woman, which isn’t really true. Being a black person mainly requires possessing certain ethnic and racial heritage, and that’s more or less it. Identifying as a woman, however, is far more nuanced, carrying biological, mental, and societal connotations. To identify as a black person is to have at least a large amount of black/African heritage, while to identify as a woman would require one to simply see themselves as such, trumping their original biology. Gender is a fair bit more conceptual and free-form in comparison to ethnicity, as both womanhood and manhood have very different appearances pertaining to culture and even history, with sexual biology being more of a chunk of what codifies one’s gender. This sort of gets into the inherent difficulty of answering what a woman is, as any other answer alternative to “one who identifies as such” will contrast with dozens of other cultural and historical views. Can’t really say a woman is purely a denizen of the domestic sphere when the equally valid world view of a fair bit of traditional Southeast Asian cultures, such as Vietnam, are much more matriarchal.
Didn't Walsh write a transphobic children's book comparing being trans to a boy thinking he was a tiger and villainising the parents for "fueling his delusions"? Sorry if I got something wrong.
Well, gender is a natural and real human variation, ....identifying is about the authority to know and define yourself. 'Race' also isn't really a hard category, either, despite other attributed characteristics. What group or category one's in kind of comes from various traits and upbringings and 'group memerships' etc, ...people can be raised immersed in Black communities/family and not look Black, for instance, though their cultural 'identification' may have always been in contrast to, say, their skin color. I'm not really in a great position to speak there, but I've listened to various people who are. (Which often comes down to things going on on multiple levels that Walsh is also trying to reduce to absolutes even if people really are very often mixed regarding 'racial' and cultural traits. )
A better analogy would be take someone who is half black and half white and ask if they'll identify as the colour of their same gender parent. Which some will and some won't. Just like some people will identify with their assigned at birth gender and some won't...
@@1greninjawolfbossdeath648 A walrus, actually. A tiger would have been picked up and RAN WITH by the trans furries way, way more-- and would have sounded "cool", and we can't have that, gotta have a "pathetic" animal that's ugly and lumbering. (Of course he also doesn't know shit about animals and doesn't know how hardass walruses are and also I always think of Jamie Hyneman when I think walrus and ain't gonna lie, he'd absolutely be transition goals for me if I didn't set my sights on being more of a himbo.)
Ironically that's exactly what he did, the only bits left in were chopped up snippets to make the experts interviewed look batshit insane and then a final bit where he basically admits he's too dense to understand and just asks the question again, then a quick surprise Pikachu bit when they throw him and his camera crew out of their offices, theirs a few of those and then several where he picks people specifically uninformed or misinformed too just reinforce his nonsense, the whole thing can be surmised as propaganda more than it can be called a film or even a documentary, it's literally unabashedly fascist propaganda
So far as I could tell it is all based around simple people wanting to think that simple questions must have simple answers. Which of course they don't always. Unless you're simple...
There was a case in Ohio, where a transman was asked to use the women's washroom. Even though he was a biological woman, he was out of place in the bathroom. Because of that, a bunch of transphobes beat the crap out of him. It think it speaks volumes about how we perceive gender.
Ironically, Matt does ask a good question. He asks "what is a cat?" Most people couldnt tell you. Even scientists struggle with crude classifications that tend to encompass a whole species. It turns out life is pretty diverse and hard to group together. We have mammals that lay eggs and have beaks. Its almost as if physical traits are a pretty shallow way to class things.
Even genetics are sorta fuzzy. When is a regional variant different enough to be a new subspecies? What about definitely different species that can interbreed with fertile offspring? Science is complicated.
Actually I think he asked the person "are you a cat" ... "can you tell me what a cat is" ... the comment was direct I believe at the person saying you cant try to define what something is unless you're that thing. So he used the cat example. Also I dont think its very hard to give a basic definition of a cat. A mammal belonging to the the feline species. So while I've not watched this beyond seeing the trailer, I think his point of the documentary is to get an answer beyond a woman is a woman or a woman is someone identifying as woman since that ends up as a circular logic which doesn't really define anything.
@@k.-flynn My argument would be that the words we use to describe things work really well up to a point, and when we insist they work for every occasion, we're usually wrong. Species, male/female, alive/dead, all of them are things that seem intuitive but kinda aren't when you get into the details.
I love that this guy decided that he, as a man, should make a documentary supposedly delving into what a WOMAN is, instead of examining his own sex or gender. Because that would force him to think about uncomfortable questions and, I assume, confront the ways in which he feels he does not live up the traditional conceptions of masculinity. No, let's scrutinize The Other instead. And there was nary a challenging thought, opinion, or question to be found for the rest of the piece.
I think that not fitting into 'traditional concept of masculinity' is very different than saying 'I am not a man because I love balet'? So in my point of view just rethinking of what being a man or a woman means in behavioral and social context is better then inventing 62 more genders. I think all ot this is going in a weird direction which is not going to help anybody.
@@evolvingspirit4632 Huh? Also I'm pretty sure you'll find Walsh never admitting to liking ballet or in fact anything deeper than his fascistic sense of fragile masculinity and anti-inteellectualism. Or apparently listening to his daughters either. He surely never got a *chance* to love ballet *because* of his idea of 'What is a man' in fact. (Not that I'm big on ballet, myself, but I've seen some modern dance I got into. :) )
@@evolvingspirit4632 one, no trans person says they're trans because they love ballet, two, Matt Walsh is the kind of man to call his son a sissy for wanting to do ballet, and that's his bullshit to deal with, not trans people's. The only one who thinks "I'm manly/girly, which means I must be a man/woman" is people like Walsh.
@Cillian well that is one way to look at it and I hope you are right. But I am not so optimistic as it seems like we are losing our minds slowly but surely.
Can I just say that if there was representation of men and women just being friends with no "oh wait I do find them attractive all along" plot, or "I'm not into you I'm actually into your brother" plot. Then Mat Walsh would believe that men and women really can be friends, and aren't lying about it. A fine example of how representation in media matters.
What is clear to me is that Matt Walsh and his ilk can’t be friends with women... I guess if its his experience it must be true universally because Matt Walsh knows all and represents all.
Honestly. I remember the moment this crystallized for me. I was watching The Killing with my girlfriend at the time. The male and female buddy cop duo were doing their thing, starting to overcome their differences, learning each other’s strengths. My girlfriend said something along the lines of, “I hope they become a couple at some point” and I replied, “if they fall in love, I’m out.” Can we just show a man and a woman working together and not have them fall in love? Just sometimes, to mix things up? And without one of them being gay, let me add.
The bit where he says that pronouns are about expressing a biological reality is super funny when you consider languages like Bahasa Malaysia which only have one pronoun, dia, which is used for everyone regardless of gender. Which, off topic, but is also why orangutan should be translated as person of the jungle and not man of the jungle because orang means person, as in orang asli meaning original people and used to describe the indigenous populations. If it was man of the jungle it would be lelaki-utan.
@@snoopy-girl your point being? Like, what elements are you referring to? And what does that have to do with the fact that dia is a gender neutral pronoun? Or that orang mean person and not "man" in the way English uses "man" as a substitute for humanity?
@@snoopy-girl There are sexist elements of most languages. I can personally vouch for Hebrew, Arabic, and Amharic, but I think just about any natural language older than maybe 50 years is going to have sexist elements. Yes, including European languages. Yes, including English.
@@laurebourgeois7256 yeah, that's kinda my point. That he's using the existence of gendered pronouns in one language to argue that gender exists as a biological reality, but if that were the case then gendered pronouns would exist in all languages, yet they don't. And some languages contain more than two gendered pronouns. So his argument falls apart because language does not determine biological reality.
Gosh, I would really rather watch a feature-length interview with the professor than listen to Matt Walsh. I was so mad Matt chopped up his answer! I wanted to hear it!
The point was, he waffled because he couldn't answer it, as could none of the other interviewees, instead being met with uncontrollable rage and illogical answers.
@@jimmyohare8116 How could you possibly know he didn't answer it when his answer was literally edited out??😂 I swear I gotta start huffing paint like you guys it seems WILD
Jessie, I adore you. I am now crafting a fanfiction centered around the titular character.... Glitterhands. But seriously, thank you for all of the hard work that went into this. You are so sharp, so funny and so right on. I am so glad that I found your channel a couple of months back. This lovely and loving community that you have here is a direct reflection of you. I am always so moved by your courage. As an aside, are you familiar with Nick Diramio? If so, how funny would it be if he did a Clip Breakdown of this Matt Walsh nonsense movie? I think the two of you would do an amazing collaboration. Sorry, just trying to make all of my dreams come true here🤗
Thank you for going through this topic, it must be difficult. One thing I can say, as a historian, is that what is a woman is actually a very contextual question. Throughout history societies have had different and evolving understandings of men and women, from what I gather the idea that a man worked and a woman stayed in the home would be alien to a medieval person, partly because that assumption relies on a pattern of work which came about under capitalism but also because come harvest time the entire family (indeed village) would be out collecting the produce of the fields and if they were a family which practiced a trade then the family would be working the trade. Even later in history, most women were not just doing housework but were often small business owners, making goods, selling services to supplement the family income if they were not in the factory themselves (although this was rarer outside certain industries). In a way it's more a circumstance of the 1945 - circa 1968 that often cemented some of these ideas about men and women, as working people became finally affluent enough to support a family on one income but were not yet affluent enough to afford servants (middle class people would hire people to do house work) and the advent and availability of consumer appliances, cleaner fuels, and the like also meant it was actually viable for keeping a home full of new furnishings and clean and spotless even in the relatively lower (not lowest but lower than before) income brackets. Anyway, Hope everyone is having a nice day and I hope to all out there you'll are having as good a time as you can and if you need a smiley face here's one :) It was lovely having you here.
As a very amateur history nerd, THANKYOU!!! These people's entire notion of history is a uniform "back then" based on 1950s USAmerica, which was ofc one of the most repressive, intolerant eras EVER- even the Victorian era was more liberal in many ways, & that's still only looking at recent Western history.
@@beth7935 Thank you for your support. Ironically a big part of the prudish image of the Victorians is thanks to the various 'Conservative Panics' of the 1950s where they made up the idea that prior to the 2 world wars everyone was prim-proper-heterosexual and middle class. I wonder how St. Joan of Arc would feel about his notion of womanhood. Keep up the good work as a historian, it's the best way to avoid being caught up in narratives.
Even in the mid-20th century (industrial age), in the lower classes, women were expected to do work of some kind. My grandmother worked until she got pregnant. Due to a promotion my grandfather got later, she was able to continue to stay at home when my mom turned 3, rather then try to find someone to watch my mom and go back to work, like most of the women in the neighborhood. Most of my mother’s friends growing up had to go home after school to help take care of their younger siblings so their mother could go to work (they also often had to help pre-prep the evening meal which would be served while their mother was still at work). If they lived in a multi-generational household they might get a break, but that already wasn’t as common by 1930, despite the economic realities of the time.
@@omnichrome9784 Definitely correct, and while the idea of a Single Income home among blue collar workers became possible with the rising in Individual Purchasing Power after World War 2 (leading to the development of the Lower Middle Class, my fault for not being specific in language) it was by no means universal or even the norm as you correctly say.
As gender is a societal construct, we need only ask ourselves who faces sexism and misogyny? Matt Walsh defines trans women as women every time he or one of his supporters lashes out at one. They would not treat a man in a similar fashion.
I wonder how this differs from how he treats trans men? Perhaps in a patronizing way like jordan peterson does? In which case that does fit with their biological origins no? Treat trans women as mixed up or even predatory men, Treat trans men as mixed up women in need of protecting from themselves?
@@NoOne-hg1qc I hate to say it but most cis men will have a hard time accepting a trans man as a man even if they use the correct pronouns. I could be wrong, but I imagine a trans woman would have an easier time fitting into female hierarchies than a trans man trying to fit into a male hierarchy. Hell, I think a lesbian woman would have an easier time competing in a male hierarchy than a trans man.
Actually he is treating a man in similar fashion because hes speaking about men who transition to women and women who transition to men.so im not sure what yoir point was here exactly.....
"Matt Walsh defines trans women as women every time he or one of his supporters lashes out at one." Umm..okay. I guess that must make some sense to you. I am a man, and I think as Matt Walsh does about this issue. And like Matt, I will debate anyone on this topic, male or female. And I don't know anyone on this side of the debate who cares what sex the person making a particular point is. It either makes sense or it doesn't. A stupid point made by a man is just as stupid as if it were made by a woman. And as far as I can see gets the same scathing response. Nice try to confuse and sidetrack the debate though. Personal attacks are all your side seems to have at their disposal. Which is of course one of Matt's points too...
I know this video is over a year old, but I still want to comment on this video. Similar to another commenter, I also have to admit Matt Walsh Tactic and Manipulation had worked on me as well as I watched his video alongside other Conservative youtuber when Roe V. Wade got overturned. As during the summertime of 2022, I kept watching these conservative videos on UA-cam, because I thought these were people who I could trust since they were adults, but Unknown to me and not noticing the sign I was being manipulated by these people. During the beginning of my Junior year of High School, after watching a lot of people on Tik-Tok who came from those minority, such as Tran, LGBTQ+, etc., I came to realize that these people were wrong and was spreading hurtful, bigotry, and hateful thing toward those people and because of that I stop watching these people on UA-cam. Right now, in 2023 I’m in my senior year of school as I am now 18-year-old and I’m no longer watching his videos alongside other conservative videos on UA-cam. Now, from Nov 29-Dec 1 of 2023 in my senior years, I am dealing with a lot of guilt, shame, and being very upset about having to watch these conservative people on UA-cam. As on Wednesday, Nov 29, I was crying from guilt and shame for having to watch these videos of people who are downright awful, spreading bigotry, and dehumanization rhetoric. I'm glad I don't watch and consume his video and other conservative video on UA-cam, but the guilt and shame of watching and consuming his video is still there.
awe you're really young to go through this journey so quickly and become more wise! and now you will be able to recognise the many other similar manipulative traps that exist in the world. I grew up in a cult & was one of those people for so many years, so shit like this video hits extra hard bc I was so connected to it.... but the positive is that I will {with the help of a hair-trigger intuition*} never go back into a cult mindset again *i say this bc i know, never say never
Another excellent video! I liked how you added humor into the narrative while still taking the subject seriously. It's interesting how MW says he's interested in "the truth" while ignoring the truth entirely. It's so obvious he's trying to impose his fantasy of what reality should be onto the real world. I think conservatives are afraid of "gender ideology" because it's an attempt to adjust our perspectives on gender to be more in line with people's real experience, but conservatives don't want to let go of their fantasies. I hope the backlash on this video isn't too bad. People get so defensive and angry when someone pokes holes in their fantasies. If it is bad, try to remember that this has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them, and there are people who support you 100%.
You are aware that you can literally turn this comment around towards trans people, correct? That they're trying to impose their fantasies of what reality should be onto others and the world around them. That trans people are afraid of conforming to a gender dichotomy because it threatens their already fragile sense of self. They want their experiences and beliefs to match reality even when it doesn't. They get defensive and angry when you poke holes in their fantasies, such as lashing out or calling you transphobic. Just remember that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them. Surely you can see how easily this can be turned around.
It reminds me of how Steven Crowder calls his segment "Change My Mind" but interrupts, talks over, and tries to sidetrack anyone who gets close to presenting good arguments.
I just finished reading reading "Native Tongue", an 80s feminist scifi novel and (while I have some issues with that work) people like Mat Walsh as depicted in his documentary seems like he would fit right in with the bumbling-yet-self-assured men depicted in that novel... so would a lot of right-wing 'intellectual' men of the media today, to be honest... it's kinda messing with my head. Anyway, awesome media deconstruction as always, Jessie! Keep it up!
It's a bit less brainbreaking when you understand that these people are regurgitating hellenistic philosophers-- all cis men, all straight, none of them actually engaging in philosophy with their female peers of similar ages, only with women ten, twenty years their younger and indoctrinated into thinking academia is only for MEN. The amount of times I can identify Aristotle's bullshit is amazing, 'cause I've only SKIMMED Aristotle's bullshit in context of Galenic physiology, for decoding alchemical texts' symbolism correctly, and in context of christian theological history. If SKIMMING gave me the same amount of depth philosophy-wise as they like to regurgitate...?
The thing I hate most is when these men say that I (as a cis woman) can’t handle trans women in my bathroom. I work at a really trans friendly company and both trans men and women use the womens bathroom (for the most part). I feel this is because the womens restroom has always been seen as a safe space. Even when it was conceived it was in order to give women privacy from men, to be able to not be stared at as a sexual object while going through the everyday bodily processes we all go through. I think it is the reason why even the trans men at my company will still use the ladies room. Everyone who goes in is respectful and minds their own business (well we do do some gossiping from time to time ;) ). But it’s just garbage to say that simply because someone is trans they are going to cause problems in a restroom. Anyone who Harasses people in any bathroom is going to need to be dealt with. Bathroom harassment is not inextricably linked to trans ppl. I would argue it is probably more of a cis man on cis man thing in the mens room. Lol. The worst thing I’ve dealt w in a locker room was the mean girls in junior high, not completely friendly folks from a marginalized community.
Well, strictly speaking, bathroom harassment is not linked to trans women at *all,* except if they're the ones harrassed, or other women are harrassed on pretext they *might* be trans women by whatever weird logic haters use. (And, frankly, I've known *lots* of transwomen over the years, mostly when I was doing more related helping there, but for any given dubious ladies' room, I'd feel safer with any one of them there than *without* them there. )
Although it does seem to be the case that women's bathrooms were created as a safe space for women, it doesn't seem to be the case that this was because of sexual objectification in bathrooms specifically. After all, prior to bathroom segregation, the option wasn't shared bathrooms. It was that women weren't allowed in public bathrooms at all. Public spaces are for men; women belong in the home. Bathroom segregation was a way to create a "private" space in the public sector to protect women's fragile ego, not because there was a track record of abuse. I have found less evidence quickly pulling up research tabs of a theory I saw a while back, which is that it was around this time that the assumption of who was the aggressor in terms of sexual advances was reversed. Women weren't allowed in men's bathrooms because they were temptresses, not because they were in danger.
Let me break this down nice and simple for you. I am a queer cis woman and I am afraid of being raped in the women's restroom by a man at say, a college, where many girls have been raped by boys. This literally comes up in a clip of Matt Walsh's movie USED IN THIS VIDEO! People who make this argument aren't afraid of trans women in their bathrooms; they're afraid of men who lie, of men who are predators. Like the professor said, "Yes I am aware that human beings can lie". I haven't met a single person who thinks that trans people are harassing others in the bathroom. No one says that, but if the way someone chooses to present themself and the way that they physically appear due to their sex, says nothing about their gender; then their is literally no rule stopping a predator, who is a man, from simple claiming that he is a women and just go walking into a women's restroom looking for his next victim. You see the kind of Pandora's Box you've opened here; if it's considered a hate crime or harassment to assume someone's gender or to question their gender, then nothing stops men from using this to their advantage to hurt women.
Yeah, not to get too dark but people teach boys they can't talk about if something is bothering them then give them a gun. Not very healthy in my opinion.
@@concernedcommenter8258 I certainly doubt that a person who talks about a shooting that happened in an LGBTQ club by saying "If doing drag shows causes hate crimes why are they still doing them" is that nuanced and understanding of a parent.
Haven’t finished the video yet but I think it’s interesting that Matt assumes his son doesn’t “need” emotional support. I feel like that’s his assumptions about gender getting in the way of a potentially deeper relationship with his child. Like the kid looks maybe eight, probably not a fully developed brain or personality yet. How does he *know* that his son only needs a gun to take care of his emotional needs? Has his son verbalized this? I would assume probably not, since children don’t often come out and say, “I don’t need this specific kind of emotional fulfillment.”
"fun" reminder: a neglected child who's used to being neglected will be perceived as calm and not needy. Not because they don't have needs but because they learned their needs don't matter.
Right? My father was raised in a similar way, and he’s told me about how harmful it was to him. He told me his mother had only told him that she loves him ONCE! Like- men are emotional beings. They’re not robots!! SHIT!!!!
See, that's why some people have started using the acronym FART instead of TERF. Feminism-Appropriating Reactionary Transphobe. Because what feminist would give praise to an avowed anti-feminist just for hating on trans people?
The funny thing is she defendents her transphobia by saying it is about caring for women's rights but supports a documentary that is misogynitic (the way he bases all women on his daughter being more than enough evidence).
Excellent video, as always, Jessie! Although I suspect many of them are just being willfully ignorant, I don't understand how people don't see how language, cultural norms, and gender performance has been changing and rearranging since the dawn of time.
If you weren't there, it's really easy to pick and choose what you believe about history to suit your current preferences, and people depicting history ("historian" is too generous a word for many of them) are well paid and lauded for catering to those preferences. Some of that surely is willful ignorance, but if you're confident enough about "common sense", then you've got a "reason" to take confirming evidence (or "evidence") as relevant and true and to reject disconfirming evidence as misleading, irrelevant, untrue, and/or fabricated out of "ideology".
@@jeffengel2607 Well, by that logic, nothing has ever happened and is factually incorrect since in order for any event at all, even one happening right now, would require everyone who wasn't there to be there. Granted, in the grand scheme, and how time-space works, yeah, technically that's accurate, as accurate as the opposite since super-positioning requires contradictory events to occur simultaneously... But then we go down to general consensus reality vs actual reality, and at that point having any motivations, passions, or even living, is pointless. Now, as a Taoist, sure, I see that futility and embrace the composite reality we live in due to said futility, however, I'm pretty sure that's not the level of communication you're attempting to say whilst masking what you're saying via convolution. Just so we're clear, there are records of many deities from as far back as ancient Greece or before which were trans. Humans write myths, erego, regardless of any arguments of whether history is or isn't valid, mythology itself, even mythology which was heavily altered by xtians speaks of those deities. So, despite your word salad and double-speak, to say the metaphorical boat you're attempting to sail is leaky is an understatement.
@@ObscuriaDragunAed You don't even know about the anglo-saxon academic bias, and before that the hellenistic academic bias, and the information control carried out by the early orthodox christianity, do you, to just cite what I've actually dug into while delving into history and theology for my story worldbuilding. I'm gonna cite just one example where historians are agreeing today WASN'T the whole truth: Henry IV and Richard II's political relationships, both individually and toward one another. History flip-flopped several times according to who the historians were biased for and against and historic sensibilities. There's a whole FIELD dedicated to "false history" that's accepted as truth-- Folk history. It's easiest to notice in pagan cultures like wicca, where sections of "history" was made up of whole cloth, because it's just recent enough that we have proof of the lack of historical evidence AND can see that it rooted itself into common tradition as if it was true history. How much more do we have that's a more modern invention taken at face value because we're missing the texts that say otherwise? I mean even my favorite ancient bro, Lucian of Samosata, pointed out that in his time the "chroniclers" made up false myths and claims and other people just took it to be real on appeal to authority. And let's not start with continents that don't exist like Lemuria, which were best-attempt guesswork at explaining migration of species before plate tectonics gained ground as a theory. All history is written by the survivors, the victors, and further modified by politics. The best we can do is take as many different accounts as we can find and analyze it through those many eyes-- and not only through the most popular and prolific academic lens of anglo-saxon people, observing from the outside.
@@neoqwerty To ignore the actual point, what's the controversy with Henry IV & Richard II? I only know basic stuff, I'm more familiar with the later Henry who usurped the later Richard, but I'm interested & trying to learn more.
To be fair, he has that “smug, sarcastic” look on his face in every interview, even when listening to people who agree with his perspective on the issue. I think that’s just how his face is
@@Draco19970125 Wellllll, google says it’s “a female adult” and “a person with the qualities traditionally associated with females.” So I guess there are multiple types of woman?
@@Draco19970125 "A gender identity most closely associated with qualities roles, and attributes that are viewed as being feminine within any given society."
Off the bat, Matt Walsh has to be missing a screw if he's not asking "What is a man?" at the same time. It shows what's really on his mind. Mysogyny and self hate? Not gonna assume the latter, but at this point it deserves to be the first question to challenge any bigot on.
@@jeffengel2607 isn't that a beautiful fact? I mean the part about how trans men fall off the radar. I should try this in a stand-up set. "There are real men walking around at every turn, they could very well be your best buddy , but they have a vagina. All these years we've been taught that we Butch men should not be pussies, the real men the real fucking men who know with certainty that being manly is who they are came with a pussy attached. And yet they had the balls to say no! I'm a man's man damn it! That's how you know, it's true. Don't tell me most of the dudes in here have the balls to do something that brave."
@@argentum001 Nice try. You failed college biology. That is not a completely accurate statement. Even if you want to define your own terms, what would it mean for an individual to fall under your definition of "man" in every way except that a particular neuronal circuit in this individual's brain expresses female? Would they still be a man? Why or why not? What argument do you have to claim that one set of terms is more efficient, seeing as how this goes straight to being a semantic argument?
I do wanna add to the part where you mention a lot of these people are actually curious and are asking real questions. I fully agree with this. I'm actually friends with a straight conservative person while I myself am a bisexual woman. She has told me many times before that I have changed how she looks at LGBT people for the better and I think it's because I've sat down and explained things to her in a way she'll understand. Of course, she herself has also sat down with an open mind and listened to me talk. In my opinion, a lot of these people are confused with our current changing world. The problem lied when they don't *want* to understand.
That makes a lot of sense! And some people change and adapt and learn over time. I remember when I was in middle school, and this girl was bisexual. I grew up in a small town, so I grew up to understand things more. I remember not wanting to be around her cuz I thought she might like me and the whole things felt weird as a middle schooler. I also thought that the girls who said they were bisexual were trying to get attention and how could they know at that age that they are bisexual. And then come to realize later in my life in my early 20’s, I realized I was a heteroaromatic bisexual 🤣🤣🤣 All that to say that people adapt over time, and people won’t always be or think the same lol
I love this. Like, it makes me want to chomp into the transcript of Matt's Trash with all the power of an ex-English Student, just to crit it the way you'd read and crit a student's essay: you generally need to ask a question, then prove the answer, but rather than pulling out papers, this bigot just seems to move onto the next question, which makes the previous question redundant. When you make a question reduundant, why ask that question? Commonly, that's to distract or alter the way the viewer/reader takes the next question, so if you do that enough, circle it around enough... Suddenly you're right back at your initial question, which you sound like you have answered, when really, you have answered nothing.
It's incredible how transparent Matt is with his propaganda. The moment he's confronted with an actual attempt at an honest in-depth answer, coming from someone who's spent a career studying this topic, an answer which takes into account the genuine complexity of the situation, he literally chooses to cut it up into a jokey cross-fade montage so it can't be heard. He might as well have faded out the professor's voice, turned to the camera and said "what a nerd, right? Did you think we were actually going to take this seriously? No. You already know what to think, and it's what I'm telling you to think. Don't listen to that professor. We don't want you to listen. Don't think. We don't want you to think." Their pre-radicalised audience will eat it up because they're in on that same 'joke'. They already have their minds made up, and they aren't interested in a conversation. The film was made simply to clip trans people / allies out of context to make them sound ridiculous, to find 'gotcha' moments with random people on the street, to reinforce the fact that you Should Not listen and you Should Not think and This Is All A Big Joke. Matt & co do NOT want their audience to realise that LGBTQ people are asking exactly those same questions, "what is a woman?" and "what is a man?" but actually in good faith. We're not asking those questions with a pre-determined 'agenda', and we're not asking those questions 'for the sake of it', not as just an idle thought experiment, but because the definitions we currently have, have been hurting so many people for such a long time. There was already a problem, and we're reacting to that problem. They certainly do NOT want their audience to know the facts underlying this conversation, and why we need to have it. Hence why they brazenly lie about 5 times a minute. That short section where you played a clip of Matt making a series of claims about trans issues while flashing up a tiny fraction of the articles which contradict his claims... that's basically what runs through my mind every time I make the mistake of interacting with one of these fools on twitter. If you provide them with large amounts of overwhelming, reliably sourced evidence they falter, but they have so many rhetorical devices and fallacies to fall back on you can't stall them for long. They're very well-trained in debate tactics, and they're happy to lie through their teeth. Unfortunately that's an effective sales technique. The lies are so constant and so boldly stated. We've all heard Shapiro talk. Matt is very much Shapiro-lite in this aspect. Constant just CONSTANT provably false statements delivered so quickly and so confidently, and re-asserted if anyone tries to argue back, only now with an 'exasperated' tone. Lies building upon lies to create an 'argument' which is lies all the way down. The only way to confront that kind of charlatanism is if you're extremely well prepared, extremely confident, have all your sources to hand... and even then unless that conversation is heavily moderated the Shapiro/Walshes of the world will literally steamroll and talk directly over you so you can't be heard. [Edit:] Ok I finished the video, and want to add that the conversation you had with that guy on the street really made me feel hopeful. I wish you had the full video, because he seemed like a thoughtful guy, and I think those kind of conversations are so important! I have to remind myself of how many times I've seen cis people who were initially unsure, skeptical, who may even have been tending toward gender critical ideology because of how confusing and 'bizarre' it all seemed to them (and how the GCs prey on that feeling) but who were nonetheless willing to step back and engage in open, long-form, friendly discussions with trans people (or just watch their videos/read their articles), who were willing to really listen, really research, really think, and eventually ended up becoming allies. I'm thinking of my own parents as examples. I've encountered quite a few of those people, and very often they had never actually met or socialised with a trans person before and really lacked knowledge of the subject, but were curious and willing to learn. So thank you, Jessie, for being one of the people out there using your voice to open up those conversations. It takes bravery to put yourself in that position, especially as an independant creator. I really love how you approach these topics in a way that's genuinely open to questions and doesn't claim to have all the answers (unlike Matt). Because we don't have all the answers yet. I myself, as someone who was born female but never fit well into that role, have spent a long time asking the question "what is a woman", or rather I ask "what does being a woman/man feel like?" I've asked it of myself, and of other people, both cis and trans... it's almost a sort of personal project. And let me tell you, no one has a clear answer (usually cis people least of all)! The fact we don't have a concrete answer to this lofty, obscure philosophical question, and that we probably never will, does not mean we shouldn't be working with the lived realities of people around us, working with the latest research, with real results and real statistics not made-up spooky stories, trying our best to accommodate and protect all the kinds of people who live in society. But when transphobes are so aggressive, so quick to lie, when they're attacking people's rights to literally go to work, go to school, use the bathroom, receive medical treatment, it can be all too easy to let that push you into simplifying and hardening your ideas in retaliation, falling into an 'us vs. them' dynamic, getting into a defensive position and bracing for impact (I try to be aware of this tendency in myself). Content like yours always reminds me to take a deep breath, take a step back, look at what I can actually see around me, keep thinking and keep asking questions. Thank you for that.
Do you have any comments about all the other insane people with positions of power towards kids that he interviewed? Like that guy who kept asking for "his truth", or that absolutely creepy lady?
@@Mant111 I have two responses to that, both important: 1. The people in this documentary were largely clipped out of context, edited unfairly, and were also tricked into the interview under false pretences, meaning they might not have been in the best state of mind to articulate themselves when Matt questioned them. It's difficult to comment on what people said in the doc because they weren't really given space to express/explain themselves in a neutral environment, and we didn't get to hear their full answers. 2. Having said that, I don't automatically agree with everything every trans person or trans ally says. I think there's absolutely space for discussion about how we best support trans kids, and the vast, vast majority of trans people I know feel the same way. Like any random demographic of humans, trans people (and their allies) have a range of opinions, perspectives and personalities. There are always going to be people within any random selection who have positive and negative traits. So if a specific trans person/ally says something I disagree with, that doesn't negate my stance on trans rights. These topics are still relatively new to the mainstream conversation, so it's going to take time to figure out and discuss the best way to do things. That's exactly why we're all here talking about this stuff all the time - because it's a reality, it isn't going anywhere, and we're trying to figure out the best way for us all to live together without anyone getting hurt - and without trans people (who exist and have always existed and will always exist! As inconvenient as you may find it!) continually being ostracised, attacked, suppressed, ignored, and pushed to suicide the way they have been in the past.
@@shockofthenew reminds me of that folding ideas video, about a bunch of scientists that got tricked into appearing in a geocentrism documentary which showed them as being in support of geocentrism. You can't judge someone based on how they appear in a shit documentary
@@shockofthenew I always hear this "Clipped out of context" excuse when people and their ideology are getting exposed. Ironic considering how I've seen the other side do just that very much all the time, with proof to back it up. Here however, you do not present any proof of that supposed edited clips and contexts. The one detail you have it right is using false pretences, but in this case it really doesn't matter nor change anything. That is how investigative journalism is done, because if he goes along the honest route and shows his cards at the beginning, nobody would agree for an interview. The other excuses done to why it -might- not have been the best state of mind are laughable. It all boils down to "It could have been this and that" to explain anything you don't like about the clips That end paragraph though. Says a lot how this ideology is new and trying its best to replace some well established and reality based facts about how the human specie evolved to have two genders, and any challenge done against it is evil because suicide
Me: I want to be a man. I want you to call me a man, I want to wear men's clothing, I want to use the men's restroom. Specifically I am a trans man. Matt Walsh: *wild accusation of horrible act towards children* Me: I literally didn't even mention children. Unless you think I'm the child. I am not. I didn't even realize I was trans until adulthood.
@@timmorris9952 that's comparing apples to oranges. Cats and dogs are not at the evolutionary smarts that humans are, they don't even have that concept of male amd female. All they go off is natural instinct while we as humans have much for than just instinct to go off of.
Hey Jessie, was wondering if you’ve seen Naomi Wu’s video about her origin, I think you’d find it interesting, not just because she discusses her experiences growing up in China as a cis woman being raised and socialized male, but she also gets into gender identity and expression in china and thailand, which is both really interesting and not something we hear very much about. I dunno that it would be super useful for content or anything, but I do think it’s worth watching just for like, personal edification. wishing you the best
I'm surprised you got through this documentary. I suspected that this documentary is going to be nothing by bad faith arguments based on what work Walsh has done. It sounds like my suspicions are right. Thanks for the video
I'm playing this video waiting for an argument to be made, or any point at all to be laid out. So far it's nothing but trash talking, overly long clips from TV shows, and failed attempts to be funny. Nothing of substance here.
Yep, that's the nub of it. The *only* reason they want to define it is that their simplistic and specious (to simple folk) way of doing so lets them discriminate against transwomen, which is the object of the exercise. Exactly why they're transphobic in this way is an interesting if depressing question.
What I learned at school is that sex and gender are separate but connected. Your biological sex is based on your genes. Your genes are made up of chromosomes. These chromosomes influence both your sex and your hormones but the enviroment also affects your hormones. Your hormones impact your gender expression. How much you have of one hormone can lead to increased or decreased levels of a particular characteristic. For a lot of people this means that your gender expression matches your sex. But not always. A lot of times the release and the amount of a particular hormone can vary from person to person. This may be genetic but it may also be environmental. Or an interaction of both. According to epigenetics certain gene patterns may be turned on and off. Influenced by your enviroment. I know I'm simplifying it really bad rn but I don't want to sit around using a load of jargon no one will understand. This means an individual may have a different gender expression to their biological sex. When considering intersex individuals you see that they may be presented one way physically but their hormones may be adapted for a different body. Furthermore there's people who have completely different sex chromosomes meaning they are presented and behave completely differently. In other words what is a woman kinda just depends on a lot of things. Your genes affect your gender expression but there's a lot more both biologically and environmentally that goes into it. Overall its simple a woman is a person who has the gender expression of a woman. If they are asking what is a woman as in the construct of the woman. The woman is based upon the stereotypes learned from childhood, observation of the treatment of Afab people, hormones
Also this is almost solely based on a biological perspective. Partly cause its the only part I remember of the gender topic without having revise it. And partly cause I'm kinda salty that we are so heavily emotionally influenced by our hormones and it kinda stuck in my head.
@@feli4081 depends on the issue! if you're feeling light headed maybe more water or a diet change, same if you're frequently nauseous. if it's chronic or muscle pain you're probably exerting something wrong and a visit to a medical professional wouldn't hurt. if it mostly just seems to be a mental thing, get more rest and take it slow for a while. get well soon!
The "if you got a dick"-argument is so hilarious to me, because there is absolutely no strata of society (least of all conservative environments) where it is acceptable to go around investigating people's genetalia before you decide how to greet them. So even people who believe that gender is purely biological, still rely on the cultural signifiers when gendering people
To be fair most men would not be able to pass as a woman if it weren't for surgery and hormonal treatment. It's just that we live in an age now where biology can be "cheated" so to speak. People can modify their bodies in more ways as technology progresses and now we've reached a point where people can change genders and do so convincingly. Is it wrong? That's subjective I guess but I don'tthink it is. Is getting braces to fix naturally crooked teeth wrong? Should crooked teeth people embrace how they were naturally born? People should change themselves however they want. If a man wants to change his body to that of a woman then why should I care?
Then I guess the gender spectrum is purely dependent on how skilled the plastic surgeon and make up artists are as well as the amount of money they can spend to pass as the gender of their choosing. Kinda like passing the "Turing Test" but for the opposite gender, otherwise people are just gonna call it as it is or just look really confused.
@@translivesmatter9063 Considering this isn't actually about anti trans people being against the idea of trans people existing, rather it's about them wanting men to look like "men" and women to look like "women" based on European standards? Yes, they totally would.
Yeah, that's kind of how we figure out what we are. (Also it's more common than people think that CIS people also ask themselves that, just not in a verbal and clearly defined way-- a cis woman who feels she "isn't feminine enough" is encountering "what IS a woman" and a cis man who feels bad about not meeting the accepted social definition of "manhood" is encountering "what IS a man".)
@@neoqwerty the second part is also true, I just didn't feel like mentioning it. Cis myself, but it just seemed obvious to that asking that question until arriving at a satisfactory answer would be a basic experience for trans people. That being said, I should remember that my experiences teach me that there is no such thing as obvious.
i cannot believe that somebody would talk to a SOCIOLOGIST and be absolutely bewildered that the answer would be a little more complex than just "womyn has vgabia" LOL
Right? I’m a Human Services Professional, and so I’m extremely well versed in Sociology and Psychology, I’ve had arguments with people like Matt; and they always end up sputtering and replying with the whole “facts don’t care about feelings” argument. Like ????? Humans ARE their feelings, for fucks sake!!!
No reasonable person takes sociologists seriously anymore. They're political activists hiding behind scientific objectivity. And besides, it's social science. Social science is fuzzy, soft science anyway. Very difficult even to apply the scientific method in the same ways natural/physical sciences.
Way back in high school one of our media groups produced a ~5 minute video of students misanswering 1st grade questions cut from over 3hrs of footage. This was just meant to be a funny film highlighting the bias in editing. It however was picked up by the national media and went viral denigrading the state of US public education while completely ignoring the producer's point. You can tell any narrative/ make anything look how you want through editing.
Jessie, I love that you started this conversation with a discussion of how Walsh uses the magic of movie making and storytelling to manipulate his audience. Great video, can't wait to see the next installment in this conversation!!!
@@ShacuLOL Obviously. Jessie even makes the point by showing how she could make a dishonest edit of the conversations at the beginning by cutting them a certain way... that is literally the point of this comment. That however, would be the only part of the video that corresponds 1-to-1 with Walsh's documentary interviews, because the bulk of the video Jessie made is not based on interview editing tricks, they are her own breakdown/review.
The piece about them being deceptive when acquiring interviews is particularly nefarious when considering the audience being primarily transphobes. I cannot fathom the amount of harassment that could be funneled onto ill prepared, unsuspecting trans people that accepted the invitation.
@@davidpitts5851 Except I didn't say that, I said the audience for the documentary is *primarily* transphobes. I never said all his followers are transphobes. It is not regressive thinking to recognize that this documentary was produced for a transphobic audience, it's media literacy.
I agree I’ve been on many dates with trans woman and am definitely not transphobic. I have some conservative views and some liberal views. More leaning to conservative. But Elmo here can’t wrap her head around people like me
@@Liry1 Tell us how the moon is made of Norweigen cheese and calling anyone who understands the Earth isn't flat "globe heads" while your at it. Because no one is buying your blatent, dishonest gas lighting lies.
So, after watching your whole first part of the review, I have to thank you for putting the focus on how Matt Walsh edits the interviews and how he goes into the documentary with an opinion already set and using the question as a red herring or a strawman argument for his sincerety (sorry, if that is the wrong word, English is not my first language). It helps me argue in my own friend group, where I sadly found some very right wing opinions due to the presentation of trans people on the internet (take the screaming, blue haired lady as an example) and some bad experiences they had. With that they kinda started to focus on a "balanced" way to get their information formed, which includes right wing people and their arguments "If they are a woman, why should they still get access from the urologist." "Prostata cancer still exists." Thanks to you, I think I am able to formulate my arguments better and... to be honest, I do not feel alone and as frustrated. Again, thank you. I cannot imagine how frustrated you must have felt watching that documentary. Even the clips I've seen kinda brought on a feeling of helpless anger due to his behaviour. P.S.: The fake beard looks incredibly fluffy and better than any real beard shown in the video. I wanna squish it.
I cant get over how hilarious it is seeing matt constantly ask “what is a woman?? I-i just need to know” like he genuinely has never seen a woman in his life and gets no bitches 🤣🤣🤣 (big fan of your channel btw and i love your videos!!! You are an absolute queen and always will be💜)
@@transsexual_computer_faery And yet he doesn't even know how she works. Reminds me or Aristotle who said women had less teeth than men when he could just have asked his wife to count her teeth to know how many teeth a woman has.
@@neoqwerty what is a woman seriously even after watching this video I didn't even find an answer all I got was "conservatives ignore the answer" and yet I didn't get anything from people like you
i continue to be astonished by how many of the definitions of women's behaviour apply to my trans friends more than me. i continue to be amazed by how many of the attempted medical definitions do not apply to me (Cis woman, voluntarily sterilised). i continue to be horrified by the way that my value as a person is defined by how useful i could be as a sexual partner. -taQ'pu eQ
old man- does not deny existence of trans people, just says that they are doing something that doesn't make sense. old man- I have no issue with trans people, I just don't see the sense in what they're doing, and don't agree with giving experimental drugs to kids just because they feel a certain way.
Bro you clearly don't understand so let me give you an example. Let's say a dude comes up to you and tells you that squares are circles, obviously you would be shocked and you would probably try to explain to him that they are not, and in the process you would probably get a bit frustrated trying to explain such a basic idea to him. Now obviously this person is entitled to his opinion and no one is arguing that, the issue is when you start expecting people to respect you for your illogical beliefs and demonising them for disagreeing with you. This is the same with Matt, he doesn't have an issue with trans people existing, he has an issue with society telling these people they can be whatever they want which is a biological falsehood.
@@cash4ash349 gender is not biological though, sex is biological. Trans people are not denying biology, they’re just transitioning to the gender that makes them feel the safest in their skin. You wrote a whole paragraph about how Matt Walsh isn’t transphobic, and yet you somehow didn’t do a lick of research before typing out your essay. Matt Walsh is transphobic, and there’s no way around it.
@@southernstargazer2006 Well the thing is, me and Matt don't believe that gender actually exists for two reasons 1. Gender and sex were literally the same thing not even that long ago 2. No one can actually define what gender or being a woman is
@@cash4ash349 1. Gender and sex were never the same things. Many people would confuse them as the same things, but they never were. That’s why you hear people say gender roles, instead of sex roles. Gender has always referred to the social roles the 2 sexes were put into, and sex has always referred to the biological aspect of the 2 sexes. 2. A woman is a person with the qualities traditionally associated with females, and that’s not even my words, that’s from google. Matt Walsh does not ask “what is a woman” in good faith, and instead he tries to make trans people look stupid to prove his redundant point that trans people are not valid.
Just to address since I see a few comments asking; this video was just on the disingenuous framing of the film. Part 2, as I say in the video, will be a point by point breakdown of Walsh’s actual arguments. But it was important to point out first that none of the film was made in good faith first. Wish I could have released both parts at the same time but alas, welcome to needing to release content to survive. So be patient, don’t worry, this is just the start. And to those in bad faith asking “What is a woman” despite me literally pointing out how bad faith the question is in the video, don’t worry, you’ll get your answer next video. Tho I’d recommend Lily Alexandre’s work if you need an answer right now.
@homo sexual feminine mal6 whistleblower confession the fact that she isn’t male, duh. Would you say that to me a feminine trans man? Or will you tell me why couldn’t I be a feminine female?
@@vp0617 ratio
His question reminds me of a classic exchange between a zen master and the dahli lama fro a dharma “battle”. The zen master produces an orange demanding “what is this”, the answer after consulting the translator was, “don’t you guys have oranges where you come from?”
i figure if Walsh still doesn’t know after 4 kids and marriage, he’s in pretty deep trouble
Is the movie in good faith ? No it's obvious it's not. However the idea that something is true just because you really really believe it, is religious magical thinking on the same level as any other religion. Just because you believe something to be true does not make it true. Imagine if we applied magical thinking to other areas "it really hurts my feelings when you disagree with me that 2+2=15 !"
@@vp0617 oh noooooo, people changing the definition of words? Literally NEVER happens!!!!
Get your head checked lmao
"Give my son a BB gun and that's about all the emotional support he needs. My daughter on the other hand..." Man, I feel so bad for both the children of Matt Walsh :') Not him calling his daughter too needy? Indirectly shaming her? And treating his son like he has no feelings? Scratch that, I feel bad for all the humans who come into contact with him. Such ideas hurt all genders. That man is clearly emotionaly stunted and needs therapy, not a public platform for those sexist and harmful ideas. Sounds like the kind of person who'd say "life's unfair, suck it up buttercup". Then, he should take own advice, and suck it up, instead of complaining on the internet and trying to tell other people how to live :D
I have on multiple times felt like the movie would be a therapy session for Matt that he's for some unexplained reason decided to force on all of us
Having dealt with many extreme right types in my lifetime, the sad thing is their kids usually end up one of 2 ways. The first, being someone who requires a lot of help dealing with mental issues caused by the toxic households they grew up in. They usually turn out to be decent people after they get the help that they need. The second, being kids that follow their parents and become as closed-minded and hateful as their parents are/were. These are the types that we had to deal with 5 years ago here in Charlottesville and the government had to deal with on 1/6/21.
I feel bad for his kids too, Matt seems completely joyless and seems to hate everything that's fun. He never smiles or laughs that I have ever seen.
Men not needing emotional support and just needing LITERALLY a gun is the exact attitude which leads to high suicide rates in men and why there are so many mass shootings perpetrated by men in the US. It’s not the only factor but it certainly greatly contributes.
@@AurizenDarkstar Just be very wary of confirmation bias. It is perhaps the greatest force dividing the ideologies of the world, and is present in every single one of them.
I can't get over how mat is simultaneously arguing points like "wearing a dress doesn't make a woman" and "if you wear a dress you're no longer a man" even thou they contradict because what actually makes a woman isn't the point it's just cruelty. The dude just straight up said he's a fascist and somehow he managed to go lower and lower past bedrock.
They really want to get to decide who gets to be "A Real [Gender](TM)" and force the ones that fail it to grovel to meet the hierarchical standards. They want to be the gender police and suspend your gender rights and you only get them back after their system deems you to have paid enough for your crime.
Sounds to me like the admission of the recognition of a third gender.
Yooo Matt said enby rights, r/accidentalally
@@Kayclau You cannot add a gender to a species without changing the existing ones. So no.
@@Alexander_Kale I mean, of course. But without the context, that's what it sounds like and I thought it was funny.
"It takes two to tango" is a unintentionally funny comment on the fluidity of gender roles, considering that tango got its start among working men in Argentina and would typically be danced by two men. Too bad no one told them that God's plan for tango was for it to be danced by one man and one woman.
@@thenson1Halo I always wipe my butt when I finish defecating, but how you connect that with tango is beyond me. Yes, tango was originally danced by male partners.
@@thenson1Halo No, really. Read up on the history of tango.
THE IRONY I CANT ✋😭
@@Draco19970125 Most people's genders match their sex assigned at birth, and a good many others have a firm, non-fluid sense of gender that differs from their sex assigned at birth. Some people do have fluid genders -- that's just an empirical fact. Biological sex isn't exactly fluid, but not everyone fits into a neat male-female dichotomy.
Not that I don't trust you I just can't find any source for it. Would you mind pointing me in the correct direction?
This reminds me of one of the most positive encounters I've ever had with a person who just learned trans people exist. So, I was going to a gym early in my transition, and I'd just stated on T and knew noticeable changes would be eminent. I reached out to the gym and said "Hey, So i'm a trans person and for the comfort of others and myself, I wanted to see if I could get permission to use the group changing rooms (a row of individual rooms fully isolated with a locking door). The Manager emailed me back and said he would love to meet with me and talk. I was nervous but agreed. Next day i go in and meet this amazing strong man with a bright smile. We sat and chatted and he told me he'd spent his evening looking up everything he could about trans people and wanted to know what they could do to make my use of the gym better and more comfortable. I was beside myself. He learned so much just to make sure he could accommodate one person and hope to better the gym for everyone.
Anyway, when I see this kind of disingenuous nonsense it makes me sad. The trans community is so varied and vibrant but folks like Walsh will never know. They will never see the joyful tears of a person just being accepted without question. Thats very sad for them.
This is a wonderful story. Many thanks. Have you ever considered how vibrant and happy the community of those who directly oppose both transgender expression, practice and the narrative in general?
@@johngreylove1359 Have you ever listened to transphobes? They are miserable, the only thing they seem to to is complain about trans people, how is that a happy and vibrant community?
You are forcing others into being with you that’s not acceptance. You don’t accept yourself so why should everyone else be forced to accept you dressed up as what you think a women/man is🧢🤡. Unisex changing rooms is one thing but a women/men changing room being forced to accept you isn’t right for everyone else who didn’t agree to it.
@@lastlime3792 okay? advocate for unisex changing rooms like everyone else then. who the fuck actually wants to use public bathrooms lmao they're last resorts the least that can be done is providing way more privacy and well partitioned unisex cubicles are a good means to that end
@@johngreylove1359 yeah, they're miserable and trans people live rent free in their head. anger, anger, anger, hate, hate, hate. wake up in the morning, harass trans people on twitter, eat breakfast, spam trans youtube channels with hateful comments, go to work, spend 9 hours contributing to whatever, go home, watch pundits and shitstirrers and get roused to hate even more. if that's joy to you, I'm truly sorry
I also find it odd with the "it's ma'am!" woman, ppl are calling her "mannish" "aggressive", "typical male behavior", etc... BUT if this were a cis woman behaving this way, people would be calling her "overly-emotional" "little feisty spitfire", "bitchy", etc
Don't forget "hysterical" which originated as a misogynistic term. It had to do with the belief that a woman's uterus could detach and wander around the body, causing all sorts of psychological ailments, like speaking up for equal rights. No, there's no science to back this up, obviously, but since when has that ever been an obstacle?
We’ll that’s cause people with XY chromosomes are typically more aggressive and Xx chromosome people are more emotional than men.
Good job you’re onto smt🙏
@@AmericanGutierrez18 I think it's a fine line. I'm a trans woman and back in school I was called a "sissy" quite a bit.... I was always quite emotional and people always said, "You're acting like a GIRL!" But now that I live as a woman, and being the exact same way people will say, "Typical male aggressive behavior" if I raise my voice or anything.... You can't win
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 In my other post as I pointed out if a cis man was behaving that way, Im sure he'd get accused of "acting like a girl" being all emotional, can't control his emotions, FULL of SOY, etc....
@@AmericanGutierrez18 actually, testosterone is show to be directly related to increased activity in areas of the brain that regulate emotions. tldr, people with testosterone are scientifically proven to more emotional then people without it
From Matt Walsh’s board wall of woman from 50s advertisements and model magazines leaves the impression that 1: He has never actually seen a woman before through a emotional or personal lenses, essentially suggesting that he’s unable to view woman as people and 2: He believes that there is a very specific idea of where woman belong which is incredibly problematic.
Yeah, I never thought 1940s chauvinism would be so trendy with Millennials. We got problems.
When you consider that Matt has a wife, I really worry if she's even allow to have a functioning brain around Matt.
Like seriously, how the hell do you get married, have three kids, and still consider women to be this fucking magic trick of mysteriousness.
@@DeadHandtheSurvivor Matt has 6 kids
@@tashacooper1753 JESUS CHIRST THERE'S MORE!?
Please somebody call social services on this man! Even one child isn't safe around Matt let alone *six.* (Obvious joke but don't actually do that)
@@DeadHandtheSurvivor Also with the mystery part he doesn't ask the question "What makes people the gender they are". People once again are forgetting trans men exist on top of misogyny.
Ofc if you want to specifically look at the experience of the gender umbrella of women that in itself doesn't make you misogynistic and/or anti - transfem but the way this is done you know it is about treating woman as other worldly and is trying to use trans women to justify transphobic views as it is much easier to frame amab people as evil.
And the thing is they don't even really care what a woman *is* but rather what she's *supposed* to be. If a woman doesn't get close enough to their feminine ideal, even if she's cis, they think she needs to learn how to be a "real woman" to be worth the respect of being treated as a woman rather than a defective person who should be a woman.
And the idea of what a woman is supposed to be varies a lot from culture to culture, and even throughout time in the same culture. Is she supposed to be outgoing or reserved? Should she be athletic? Delicate? How tall should she be? How much fat is she supposed to have on her body? Does a "real woman" decorate her skin with makeup and tattoos or does she forgo them? What kind of clothes are appropriate for her to wear? How is she supposed to treat her body/facial hair? These will all be different depending on where and even when you ask. Women who don't fit into the approved definition of women are often treated with confusion at the very least or outright scorn or condescending pity
Yup.
@@morgannyan2738 As for you two: a cat or feline (two overlapping but not necessarily equivalent things, just like woman and female) is not easy to describe finitely either. You are not a cat. There is no fluidity between humans and cats, you never developed into or from being a cat, you probably don’t even talk to cats. Enough.
Identifying as a completely different species is wildly different than identifying as another gender in a species with relatively little sexual dimorphism, and a lot of overlap between biological sexes even in cases where people aren’t visibly intersex or considered intersex at all.
You can’t become a cat or have a brain with explicit characteristics of a cat, because we are many years removed from cats on an evolutionary time scale. However, there is very little separating a human male from a human female. Even a person with XY chromosomes may, due to a series of events, have female sex characteristics. Thinking that our brains, our most complex organ, is completely free from these overlaps in sex characteristics when even our general body structure isn’t is absurd.
Comparing transgender people to someone identifying as a different species is an argument that’s usually made in bad faith. I’m probably not going to continue a discussion after this
*our brains … are completely removed
@@morgannyan2738 a cute baby. That’s what all cats are.
Matt's questioning of sex in Star wars shows he's never played Mass Effect.
Someone once told my friend group -- (which had just clawed its way out of christianity and was therefore able to critically consider things without the thought-terminating abject fear that we and our families would be struck down with lightning or something for not being bigots anymore) -- that "trans is a descriptor". And it clicked so hard that I'm pretty sure that all of our descendants got knocked the fuck over.
It is absolutely ridiculous for people to say that 'trans women aren't women because they are trans'. May as well say that 'brown-haired women aren't women because they have brown hair'.
Black women are women. Short women are women. Fat women are women. Thin women are women. Indigenous women are women. Disabled women are women. Blonde women are women.
Trans women are women.
There are many different kinds and types of women in this world (...women are diverse, you might say. 🖖🏾✨)
Trans women are merely one kind of woman.
It's literally not rocket science, and it's sad that so many people (like Matt Walsh) are trying to make things so difficult to understand. o7
I’m a Christian and yeah Im devout and I can think critically cause I’m not an extremist. Please try to avoid generalization
Matt Walsh: All I want to know is honestly, what is a woman? Like an honest answer.
Professor: Oh sure, I can explain it.
Matt Walsh: *very clearly censors his answer rather than let his audience think or question*
His audience: Oh my God he really is speaking truth to power and being completely honest!
I've been recently made aware of how morals are spread through media generally trying to answer their own questions, even when they do show both sides it's usually done to make one look better than the other, the only examples of showing both sides on a level playing field I can think of is arcane and jujutsu kaisen because they show a lot of different views without making one seem more or less fair than the other
@@airplanes_aren.t_real I think HXH and Vinland Saga do a good job with this as well! Dishonored 1 as a game as well, I mean some of the characters aren’t as fleshed out as I would like, but the DLC literally lets you play as the main antagonist! It makes you empathize with all the characters. Wish more media was like that, it’s the most human kind.
@@bee1411 agreed, I've seen a lot of parents complain about the morals taught to their children, not just through media but also teachers and friends because a lot of it is either not applicable or presented as a black and white option
Ex: sharing is caring
I hope that this type of stuff gets more coverage
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Exactly.
@@philipjohn1254 I'd honestly like to hear it because from what we could hear it was fascinating. I wonder if the Professor has a full answer somewhere. He could put it online: "The answer Matt Walsh doesn't want you to hear.", as a sort of tongue-in-cheek jab at Walsh's claims that he's being "censored" while actively censoring anything that doesn't fit his narrative.
Why are women? Who are women? When are women? Where are women? but most importantly, How are women?
1 - Women are because yes.
2 - Women are people.
3 - Women are now, women were there, women will be there.
4 - Women are here.
5 - Women are cute :)
Everybody asks "What is a woman?" But not "How is the woman?" 😔
@@titush.3195 Why is Gamora
Hewumbo. Shewumbo. WEwumbo.
@@titush.3195 even less ask how are men.
The CW for Matt's beard is much appreciated, thank you.
Matt using a fishing pole as a benchmarker for why his daughter is different from his son is so hilariously and specifically ‘city conservative’. As someone who grew up in the conservative south just below the Bible Belt, there are entire sects of girls who fish and hunt and do Boy Things because that’s just a part of where we live. Fishing, hunting and mudding are top date activities.
I definitely have 2 sisters who would gladly outfish me any day lol
killing animals as a romantic act sounds kinda fucked up
@@transsexual_computer_faery technically ordering a meat dish at a fancy restaurant is also a romantic date that involves killing an animal.
@@raydgreenwald7788 thank you
Not quite the same experience, but I grew up in a suburb very close to the coast and various bays. All my friends and I, regardless of gender, were taught to fish by our conservative fathers lol. It was treated like a rite of passage. Because fishing was just considered a fun activity. Who knew, amirite!?
As someone who once worked in motion graphics, pointing out the stock video samey-ness of politicized documentaries never fails to amuse me.
It's not a nature program. What would it serve to get lots of custom on-location footage?
@@vylbird8014 So stock footage doesn't scream "F for Effort" to you?
yas motion graphics!!!!!
@@vylbird8014 It's lazy and tacky to put so little effort into a video that you claim to care about as Matt Walsh and his lackeys did in "What Is A Woman?"
They're either inept or soulless, and likely both. That's not really news with conservative political media, though.
@@vylbird8014 Bolster the impression of production value? Like, if you look at the works of Dan Olson or Jacob Gellar or Matt Parker, you can definitely enhance all kinds of non-nature documentary work with clever use of location footage, or just plain good quality custom visuals in general. Pre-covid, most tv documentaries tended to deliver content to the camera while walking to interviews.
And that's not to say that there's anything wrong with making a documentary or video essay with obvious B-Roll, but it defintiely offers its benefits.
Jessie, this is a masterpiece. You are - as always - so charming and well-researched and SO GODDAMN FUNNY, HOLY SHIT. I am so proud to have you as a friend 😭💜💜💜
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I thought this was from a parasocial person not an actual friend of hers, lol
Cats! Hi Zoe
Wow a wild zoe comment.
Very cool.
The point where Patrick realizes Walsh's intent is fascinating to watch and almost sad? He seemed so disappointed and flustered. I think it really shows how people in the alt-right and general bigots conflate debate and interview. Reminds me of the clip from a Ben Shapiro interview where the interviewer did ask genuine questions, and Ben didn't know how to deal with the pressure so he went into debate mode.
yeah i thought honestly the prof was being a good educator. people who teach shouldnt be giving you answers, they should have pushed you to seek the answer yourself, providing the necessary resources for it but not, again, being the one who decide for you what the answer is. even more so when they teach at uni level or higher.
wait i had the idea how to tie this point to earnestly respond and add to yours but i lost the thought lmfao damn. rip in peace. 💀💀💀
The strangest thing to me is that the intent of the questioner is the most important thing to Patrick, rather than answering a straightforward question. The answer to a question should not change based on the intent of the asker. It's like a highly religious person realizing that the person asking the question isn't religious and getting flustered because the answer depends on the unquestioning faith of the listener.
@@dawest767 Walsh is holding interviews on false-pretenses, editing his documentary to literally skip when Patrick does answer the question, and asks disingenuous questions expecting a certain answer. That is literally a loaded question fallacy.
Also, intent is extremely important in conversations. If I enter a conversation intending to have a good-natured chat, and the person I’m talking to enters the conversation intending to mock me, that will absolutely change how I respond to any questions asked. If Walsh asked Patrick for a debate it would be fine. But he didn’t, Walsh asked Patrick to have an honest conversation, whilst also lying directly to him.
Catching people off-guard and pretending like it’s a gotcha moment and blaming the person for being caught off-guard is so elementary level shitty, that it’s insane you don’t realize it
@@RyanKeithLever Unfortunately the "beliefs" that Patrick holds are based purely on ideology and semantics, and not on objective reality. Thus, they can't be defended, and depend upon the listener buying into the ideology. That's why people like him fight so hard to censor and shut down all opposition, because there is no rational or objectively logically defensible argument. A "belief" that can't be logically defended is a garbage belief. There is no political or ideological leaning to that - beliefs that can't be defened with logic are garbage. IF the beliefs had a basis in logic, the intent of the listener would. not. matter. There is no subjectivity in truth.
@@hotcoco2789 All of this would be a lot more convincing if any of those folks interviewed could answer one simple, straight forward question: "What is a woman"?
You are effectively telling me that he did ask them this question, that they HAD the answer, that they GAVE said answer and that Walsh edited it out.
Considering all the waffling about they do, this seems inlikely. I would be interested in seeing the whole interview unedited, but i sincerely doubt that there was much editing involved, when these people make themselves look THIS bad.
The very fact that they start to squirm under certain questions means they RECOGNIZE how controversial the topic is.
It's also a common tactic of domestic abusers to provoke their victim until the victim reacts, and then use that reaction (often out of context) to "prove" their victim is unstable, incompetent, or "dramatic". As someone who has experienced this far too many times: if anyone, ever, provokes you until you react and then uses that reaction against you, please at least consider exiting that relationship at the earliest safe opportunity.
It's the adult version of the schoolyard "I'm not touching you!" (pokes their fingers 3 inches from your face until you shove them away, then claims you started it because you touched them first)
Ah yes. The Johnny Depp
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Except not
Just because you are provoked does not mean your actions are justified. If someone keeps mockingly saying something like, “You wish you were capable of stabbing me, loser,” I think we should agree that you should not be able to stab that person. I can be more sympathetic to someone who is provoked, but your actions are your own responsibility.
@@krossraig7370 My point was "someone provoking you so they can use your inevitable reaction against you is a red flag" not "any reaction you make after being provoked is justified". I was focusing on the provoker, not the provokee.
"Demons would sometimes use they/them pronouns"
For no good reason I want to break this single sentence down.
Angels are, to start with, genderless. Even the conservative church I grew up in recognized angels as genderless, though sometimes referred to in a masculine manner, similar to God who is either every gender or no gender.
Individuals who are considered demon possessed in the bible do not have a singular demon , they'd have a fucking army in there. They/them is simple practicality when you are sharing a body with a whole legion. The use of they/them has nothing to do with evil. In fact, though the English translation doesn't reflect it, biblically God starts out not being referred to in a gendered manner, but overtime is referred to in the masculine, probably only for the sake of people understanding it easier.
There's a hilarious angelology book I read to kill time at church, where the author insists that angels should be represented as vaguely masculine because it would be "too scary" if they were a blend of male and female.
I think the flaming swords are a bit more scary personally
So Matt Walsh is a fake Christian? Why am I not surprised.
@@necrodeus6811 Skin made of bronze and eyes full of fire is where I'd shit bricks, personally, and if that didn't get me the IMMENSE WINGS THAT BLOCK THE HORIZON WITH THEIR VASTNESS would. I can barely even fathom standing at the foot of the 21 meters tall unicorn Gundam in Japan and I can SEE COMPARISON PICTURES of that, something made of fresh-casted bronze with fiery eyes and sky-wide wings????
Transphobes forget that the use of she and he is a modern addition to the English language. Even with the changes in language, use of they is still the default when referring to a human in general.
@@reiakari Whoever told you that lied
Lawd when ya thought Jessie’s videos couldn’t get any better, she bring Needless aboard 😮💨
Right?!?!?! He killed it!
@@JessieGender1 you killed it gyal 💖
@Foreign Man in a Foreign Land Aw Thank ya!!
Did Walsh really just say that pronouns describe biological reality? It‘s so weird to me that some people assume that grammatical gender in language has absolutely no point but to convey biological reality. Maybe that‘s because I‘m german and we use feminine, masculine and neuter articles for our nouns. The German sun takes the feminine article and therefore also the feminine pronoun. I know that in Spanish for example, the sun takes the masculine article. Does that mean that speakers of these languages see the sun as either biologically female or male? Of course not. I‘ve also seen English speakers use either “he“ or “she“ for inanimate objects. So why is it so difficult for some people to accept it when human individuals tell them, that they prefer a certain pronoun being used for themselves? We‘ve been using pronouns for our cars and ships all the time and these objects certainly didn‘t care about that. Okay I might add that the objects also couldn‘t correct us about pronouns and maybe that‘s making the difference here. People hate to be wrong. The real problem is not the pronoun itself. It‘s the refusal to accept a person‘s identity when it differs from the own viewpoint about gender. It‘s so frustrating when transphobes use this type of argument. And then there also this whole point of “We can‘t change the rules of grammar“. Hey but at least he‘s right about that: Calling a man a “she“ is often an act of confusion. But that’s not only true for cis men. Most trans and cis men are not comfortable with others referring to them as “she“, or so I‘ve heard.
@@brandonsolanes9217 Well they are women so it's not delusional.
Going by that logic, in France croissants have dicks
"People hate to be wrong" 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
In the end it's a matter of passing the requirements for a certain optical standard.
What I realised is that people like Matt Walsh vilify people like Dylan Mulvaney as examples of how the "trans ideology is bad" because their optics reveal their transition in a sense that they don't look immediately like one or the other binary gender. Identifying a cis man or woman is easy, because mostly they can be recognized and categorized in a simple and easy manner due to the first impression they give off. If a trans person would fit that mold and pass as their identified gender on first glance, then even Matt Walsh wouldn't immediately be able to deduce their transition and therefore wouldn't be inclined to question it, as the societal value of that person in his eyes would conform to his conservative perspective.
In the end it really comes down to an inherent acceptance of people for who they are, which people like Matt Walsh can not do for religious reasons for example.
I'm a cisgender woman, who was a cisgender girl growing up, and I would have been thrilled to get a fishing rod for my birthday. I went fishing on my own all the time as a kid. That's the thing that really kills me about these very narrow views of gender and identity; people say, "We all know that's boy stuff," or "We all know that's girl stuff," but there are so many cisgender kids that don't even fall into those categories. And when you point that out, people say that the kids who were anomalies in these narrow definitions were just confused or warped somehow; I liked fishing (and still do now, though I rarely have the chance to go now that I live in a city and don't have a car) because it's peaceful and quiet, I didn't have to talk to anyone and I could just focus on what I was doing without having to worry about an outcome because you just never know if you're going to get a bite or not (this is a built in conceit to fishing, which made it a low pressure activity perfect for just being in the moment and just existing while doing it). There are plenty of humans who wouldn't enjoy fishing as a solo activity, or at all; male or female, cisgender or transgender. Plenty of people that do enjoy fishing. When you get down to the brass tacks of what fishing amounts to as an activity (standing or sitting around waiting for a bite) what does gender have to do with it? And if anyone tries to pull the whole fish are slimy and gross so women and girls don't like fishing: kitchen duties (which are traditionally thought of as women's work/a woman's domain) involved preparing food, which included butchering animals, plucking birds, descaling and gutting fish. Not to mention the huge numbers of meals that call for using intestines and other "gross" parts of an animal. Women were also traditionally involved in slaughtering animals before that became an industrialized process. Womanly constitution can handle some slimy fish, even if individuals may not want to and choose not to.
You writing a novel? Well can’t you just say I like fishing and I’m a woman 😪 so your a masculine woman. And theres feminine men too.
No, in reality you're just a woman, not cis woman
@@cheers2157 A masculine woman? Why because she likes fishing?
You know there are cultures in the world right now that consider fishing to be “women’s work” right? Many tropical islands have women who routinely fish as a matter of course. Often times even for a living. Just for example. Jesus Christ are Americans just fixated on black and white thinking or something? You can literally buy specialised female oriented fishing gear where I live.
@@cheers2157 no
@@cheers2157 they can’t. Everything is this way now.
I think your analysis of Matt and people like him at the end is very accurate. Before I came out as trans I fell down the the conservative rabbit whole with people like Matt, Ben, and even Steven crowder. Looking back I followed them because they validated what I thought about myself. Their views on trans people were how I thought of myself especially from growing up in a hostile church and home environment, so I didn't watch them to learn or feel good about myself. It was the exact opposite. I watched them to reinforce how much I hated how I felt. Looking back and thinking more critically it is easy to see their flaws in their arguments.
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I also went down a similar rabbit hole. But now looking at how they talk about trans people and trans issues I notice how disingenuous, condescending their coverage on trans people is.
@@Polidoot you need to wake up, people are being damaged by this nonsense
To be honest I fail to see what the issue is with some folks being trans, if your cis what skin do you have in that fight beyond supporting defending your lovely trans friends from this sort of unwarranted attack people like Matt Walsh make. If he and his sort laid off people could be who and what they are & every one would be much happier.
@@davidthedeaf Class action lawsuit just launched at UK Gender clinic, over 1000 people who have been permanently damaged
10:05 - "As for men who claim they have many dear friends that are women, they're either gay...or they're lying." This illustrates perfectly something I've seen all too often. I'm an ace guy, and many people in the LGBT community (but *especially* gay men) often act like aces face no discrimination...ignoring that to most people, our asexuality gets interpreted as cloaked homosexuality and are treated accordingly.
I hate to hijack, but that moment was just such a wonderful, almost-instantaneous showing of how aces get rolled into the gay demographic by people making generalizations while that's overlooked by the larger queer community.
There's that, it also shows Walsh is utterly disqualified from claiming to represent reality or 'commonsense,' neither of which could *he* define, certainly not by actual social experience or insight.
I also just commented about this moment. I'm an Ace man in a committed relationship with a woman, and my best friend is a female. She actually sent me this video. It feels like these people are projecting their own predator feelings onto others.
@@bobana3105 bingoooo
Lol I have a female spouse and one of my best friends is a woman. So that makes me gay or a liar? Nice lack of logic dude. Sorry you can't hang out with a chick without your twig and berries taking over of your tiny brain.
@@laurebourgeois7256 I don't know what the "standard man" is, but there are many heterosexual men who have friendships with women, if that's what you're referring to. Also, I think OP's point was that Walsh would characterize men such as himself as "gay", which, according to Walsh himself, he would.
While I think asking the question of 'what is a woman' isn't that helpful in the grand scheme of things, it is one question I find intriguing though sometimes overwhelming and scary. Still, I would've loved to hear what the social studies professor had to say and honestly I would've loved this documentary if it were done right. If he went in with his point of view, but open to being challenged and learning something new.
Yet another honest, reasonable discussion of an incredibly difficult (and exhausting) topic. I hope you're taking lots of chill time to geek out and do things you enjoy between tackling this documentary, it's not an easy one to get through.
Time for a Star Trek cleanse!
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I think the dictionaries ought to have an entry for the “conspiratorial ‘they,’” where the word is used to imply an unspecified shadowy cabal pulling the strings, in sentences like “That’s what they want you to think.”
She watches Babylon 5, she's good to go... Which reminds me, I've got to hit that up again. Hopefully it's still on Amazon Prime.
Seconded. Thank you for making this, but please take care of yourself.
One of the more frustrating tropes the Right Wing deploys is the performative, face-scrunched-up-like-a-used-Kleenex, "bUt I dOn'T uNdErStAaA-aAnD!" intonation when something extremely obvious has been stated. It's all grift, all the way down. Sure, Walsh may well be an "idealogue" (which presupposes the existence of "an idea" in his head), but there's far more mileage to be gained by understanding that they don't actually believe *anything* - the entire world is performance art for them. In a way, their rejection of "post-modernism" is the ultimate irony - nobody embodies the metareality of Baudrillard, and the absence of context of Lacan more than these hateful people.
Absolutely amazing video, Jessie. Know that you are loved and supported, and (allow me the flex) as a forty-something (mumble-mumble) cis-het white guy, I will do what I can to spread the message of tolerance and love for all.
Tucker Carlson's career is basically that face with a vitriolic speech track.
Like they seem to not be able to use they/them pronouns.
@@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife Except for all the times they actually do. xD
Ugh I absolutely *loathe* the term "common sense" it's often used to victim blame people who fall for things the person who "has common sense" would nEveR fall for, or used as an ambiguous term that means the person with "common sense" is right and you're wrong! Common sense is a completely arbitrary and subjective concept, and I really wish the term would die...
The old dude who said he "knows because of common sense" literally only used it because he knows if he said the actual reasons, his hate would've been much more obvious. (Not that it was very well hidden in the first place)
Sometimes I find it difficult to see how others don't catch the hidden meanings and intentions behind reactionary content? Especially when it's more innocuous and non political, I actually struggle with paranoia, so it's like "am I overreacting here...?" Ugh I just hate this reactionary shit, great video Jessie!!!
"Common sense" is privilege pretending to be wisdom - it's what you figure you can simply assert without being effectively challenged.
@@jeffengel2607 very well said!
Is Socially Constructed Gender Common Sense?
Transgender is only selective blind!
The unquestionable truth that is sacred and inviolable!
Is Transgender a Religion or Crazy Fundamentalism!
Extortion all day to force others to obey!
I usually respond that "common sense" is better understood as "shared sense" than "prolific sense". If we don't share a sense, it's definitionally not common.
I had and have several male friends and most of them are not gay and I'm not a lesbian for having friendships with men! How can people create such absurd prejudices! men and women can be great friends ❤ very good video
I agree. I’m bi, but I have both male and female friends. And yet, I’m not necessarily gay, I’m attracted to both men and women. It is entirely possible to be attracted to women, and also to just be friends with them without any romantic feelings or desires attached
I'm from Aberdeen (sort of) and what that store owner did to the woman in that video was awful. He tried to campaign for her to be removed from the city council and when people came to peacefully protest across from the store (he should have been fine with this, after all they're just holding SIGNS which he firmly believes we all have a right to display, unless of course he only thinks he does) he had counter-protesters outside. I remember there being several guns and slurs involved on their end. I'm happy to report that his store, which has been open for long before I was born, is now closed. Too bad sir, guess 9 out of 10 people in the community DIDN'T love your sign.
Thanks - I needed that update.
Here's the real question nobody's asking, Why did that guy have so many young boys underwear displayed on his store's walls?
I will said fucking karma for the guy. Act like a dick, get treated like a dick.
@@mzaite Right????
So lie much? He didn't have counter protesters there. The protesters came on thier own! And actual men showed up and did man shit and now you want to whine about it, way to prove Matt's point!
"Yes, I think it's well established that human beings can lie" is my fav line in the film by far
I love that professor so much. I'm surprised at Matt Walsch (maybe I shouldn't be) for questioning why a social science professor is so interested in talking about social interaction as it pertains to gender and the use of pronouns in casual conversation.
@@noellemorel7280 because unlike everyone at the daily wire he’s a good person, mostly.
@@troyterry6919 I agree. Trans men are men and trans women are women. :)
@@noellemorel7280 Do you think campaigning to take away human rights makes you a good person?
100%, great guy!
Jessie, you are a QUEEN for going out and doing interviews in your adorable beard! The bravery and the self assurance - I adore you. Love it. I'm enjoying your video so much so far, but I just wanted to say thanks for being your unapologetic delightful self.
yes
If that’s a queen no wonder most are called girls.
@@christianlima987 ok?
@@transsexual_computer_faery what did they say? They deleted the comment lmao
There are two ways to get a high rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
The hard way is to make a film so brilliant that it speaks to all people and dazzles everyone.
The easy way is to make something so terrible, only those who will love it will attempt to watch it.
I agree!
You all hilarious
Love how he confidently declares he emotionally neglects his son.
@@wolfofthewest8019 he totally said he tossed him a BB gun and said 'that's all you need.'
You people missed the point, Matt by saying that meant his son doesn't need explanations on who he is and he is not confused about his personality, he just wants cool stuff which for him is a bb gun and play with it and just be an 8-year old. And it's not that he is deprived of emotional support, no. When I was a kid I just wantes books and Lego's, didn't need any "emotional support" or whatever you guys mean by that.
So think about it, because if you don't have any contrargument to that, then you're just hating him for the sake of it.
At least that's the way I see it, please explain it to me if you disagree.
@@David232x what he said was his daughter needs emotional support and his son just needs a bb gun... which implies his son doesn't need that kind of support. Which of course he does. Giving him a toy gun is not helping him get through the perils of childhood development. He's acting like his son is incapable of going through emotional distress which is not at all true. What happens when he gets in a fight with his friends? Or one moves away and he's alone in class? Or a family member dies? He still has emotional needs like his sister and his father doesn't even acknowledge it.
@@David232x also a little girl isn't asked what they want for their birthday and say "emotional support". They ask for toys too. It's just for some reason for little girls it's accepted that they are allowed to have emotions but not little boys. Everyone needs someone, needs love, needs attention and help figuring out how to navigate life and learn who they are, regardless of gender
@@David232x Matt is a racist full of hate and no respect for other human beings. That is a nice way of saying hea nad the KKK are the same.
oh thank god my parents watched this recently and are obsessed with it and i wanted someone to break down some of the claims made because my mom won’t shut up about it but i could only find people breaking down the first segment; god bless you for being willing to wade through this shitstorm 💕
Cool but your profile picture looks like if the Demi-Fiend ate cheetoes.
Lily Alexandre also did a video on this too.
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A real woman would sl*p fire out your mouth for telling your mom to shut up.
Im sorry for you, consider finding new parents?
'I think it's well-established that human beings can lie, yes.' What a legend.
@@prettylady6013 okay and? Happens sometimes.
@@prettylady6013 Of course. Matt Walsh is living proof
@@morgannyan2738 I think it’s well-established trans people are human beings, yes.
And with a straight face too OMG.
And all of these people being so polite and not punching Walsh in the face.... much more polite than I would be.
@@DeathnoteBB no fucking way......... noooooooo..,,,, my argument is destroyed..........
I have to admit... His tactics worked on me. Thank you for helping me uncover my biases. Hopefully, going forward, I can try to be more understanding of my trans cousins. Thanks and subbed 🏳🌈🏳️⚧️
It worked on you because he's right. You're being manipulated by insanity. Get out of it. You know deep down what gender you are. Why would you let someone talk you out of it? These people don't care about you. They want you confused. The more blind followers they have to push their agenda, the better. Don't let them do it to you. Think for yourself.
Comparing Matt Walsh to Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, and then to Shakespeare's Puck, was very generous of you. I happen to like both of those characters but not necessarily Matt Walsh.
That's because even when she's insulting someone, she's got more class and empathy than Matt Walsh could ever imagine having.
@@zoyadulzura7490 I feel like it is insulting to Wolverine and Puck.
"Give my son a BB gun and that's about all the emotional support he needs..."
Poor, poor kid. What an asshole dad thing to say though, seriously!
That's the kind of bs attitude towards "raising boys" that nearly ruined my childhood.
Edit: Jessie picked up on that a few seconds later in the video. Of course she did- and she points out exactly why it's a horrible thing to think about your own child.
-"Just bottle it all up son, don't you dare come to me for 'eMoTiOnAl SuPpoRt'.
You do that, I'll think your gay, OBVIOUSLY. And you KNOW how I FEEL about THE GAYS..."
I can just picture the scene:
-"Don't you start crying while I'm being hateful and demeaning towards you or you'll get the belt, SON!
I JUST told you, BOY: Crying is GAY. You want to go to Christian torture camp? Do you?"
But you know, they want to "protect the children!" and all that... Give us a break.
Edit-Edit:
If he's arguing that it should be illegal for a queer identifying person to teach children in schools because they might spread their so called "gender ideology" to otherwise ignorant children.
Then I'm sure we can all agree that someone who self identifies as a "christian fascist" which is an actual political ideology as opposed to a personal identity, should be nowhere near children's education either.
And yet he and the daily wire and Prager """university""" are CONSTANTLY pushing their very serious and historically proven to be genocidal incoherent political ideology upon children in a variety of ways, and with organized top-down structural funding by billionaires who have openly and repeatedly professed their deep disdain for science, democracy, human rights and the entire f'ing planetary ecological environment!
you're projecting your past on others, and you totally failed to understand what Matt meant when he said that, read my other comments so maybe you will
I'd no idea who this Matt Walsh person was but a few weeks back I kept getting spammed on youtube with adds featuring this guy asking people what is a woman and even with no context of what it was I knew they were disingenuous. It was the footage of him asking some San people the question along with questions about transgender people but using all English terms. It reminder me of the story of some americans in the early 50's going to a remote Irish island where Irish was the main language to ask the women about the quality of their sex life but as the local women weren't familiar with the English words they were being asked like orgasm the visitors concluded they'd never had an orgasm. I thought heres another arrogant westerner pushing their view point with no understanding of the local culture and flagged it to youtube to never show me this ad again yet I still had it pop up several more times.
You might wanna investigate some more now, and discover that Walsh has lots of biological truth and facts on his side.
@@Mant111 he does not. i think it's very clearly and easily explained in jessie's video why matt walsh doesn't have facts and truth on his side.
I SWEAR Turning Point USA is stalking me, that keep spamming me even though I blocked them
@@monsterglacier You mean the video that starts instantly with "he's a monster, warning"?
Yeah, what a purely unbiased source of truth it must be that it'd never lie to its audience.
@@Mant111 Just because a statement is inflammatory doesn't necessarily mean that it's biased. Hitler was a monster " is example of a fairly true statement that doesn't require political disagreement with the person. Willfully attacking other people's human rights is monstrous.
The 'men aren't ever really friends with women unless they're gay' bit is just sad. Almost makes me want to feel bad for the guy if he wasn't such a monster.
The fishing pole thing was pretty funny as well. My daughter was thrilled when we got her a fishing pole. I don't even fish but my dad does and it's been a great way for them to bond. My 18 month old son loves playing with dolls, I don't want to think about how someone with Walsh's mindset would react to that. He also loves his toy cars, trains, mini basketball hoop, etc. Point being, none of this should ever be a cause for concern.
i guess bi people can't have friends
Ah yes the anyone is anyone at any time for any reason argument.
@@johngreylove1359 Not at all what it is. It's just a simple fact that kids have varied interests that have NOTHING to do with their gender. Tweaker.
Danny Elfman plays with dolls and he's the buffest 70 year old you will ever see. He also has a lot of female friends despite being straight, it's attitudes like that which make it easy for fake female friends to get away with false accusations of sexual assault.
A woman is an identity. It's a social understanding of the female gender. That's it. It includes a lot of potential descriptors (long hair/breasts/vagina/giving birth/chromosomes/dressing in a feminine way, etc) but they don't all apply to some women. Even assigned at birth females may have no breasts, may have short hair, cannot give birth, have different chromosomes or dress in a masculine way. Society is constantly changing as well, so those descriptors may even be out of date in the future.
A good analogy is describing myself as a fan of pop music. If I say I'm a fan of pop, I doubt right-wing trolls would come out of the woodwork to ask "but what IS a pop music?" To define a genre, all you can do is gesture to the way we categorize it. "Pop music" doesn't exist in an objective sense. It's just certain sounds that we have arbitrarily put into a box. And pop music, too, is constantly changing.
It's not an easy concept to grasp but as long as you show intellectual honesty you can understand it.
Which is why we call adult human female > women, and not all the variable buzz stuff like the one you mention.
@@Mant111 Sincerely, shut up.
@Rat Nix Bruh I'm a trans woman and still get checked for prostate cancer and have never heard of anyone else not doing it just because they're trans, I have literally no idea what you're talking about
@@Devoted_Catholic777 What do plants have to do with people? It's a totally arbitrary comparison.
@@lilstevechan8427 It's not actually. Male/Female/etc in reference to biology is about the gametes an organism produces be they plant animal so on and so forth. Thus not an arbitrary comparison.
Is it really surprising how many kids end up broken enough to attempt or commit mass shootings when they are given guns and told that that's the only emotional support they deserve because they were born a certain way? When I was first taught to shoot it consisted of emphasis that guns aren't toys and how to safely use and take care of them, even if they were just an air gun or .22, not telling me this is a toy that now defines my manhood and implying I should use it to solve any emotional issues I may have.
RIGHT?????
what a fucking stupid comment, you really have no idea on raising Kids do you, you just care about your worldview, read my other comments so maybe you'll understand what Matt really meant when he said that.
The fact Matt Walsh would incredulously ask "what is a women" to everyone else and then when asked the same question he'd just splutter and obfuscate
Especially when the professor asked him, and he replied with something along the lines of “you really don’t want to answer the question”. Lmao who’s not wanting to answer the question? Cuz it just sounds like he is the one covering his ears and screaming to not hear the answer
The wild thing is the people he's asking don't even bear the burden of proof; he does.
"You seem to take as a premise that woman has a stable definition. I reject that premise. Define 'woman'. Now define 'adult', 'human', and 'female'."
And the tunnel--nay, the cave complex--only gets darker for the gender realist from there.
Matt Walsh's answer to the question is "a woman is a female human being". That is kinda the point he is trying to make with this mockumentary, that none of the people who disagree with him HAVE a definition and should therefore be discounted.
He is trying to ridicule the people who disagree with him, thus casting doubt on their position.
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@@Alexander_Kale His definition has the same problem as the definition he's criticizing, but multiplied threefold. "Adult", "human", and "female" are all culturally constructed. As are "female", "human", and "being". Furthermore, if "female human being" is, in fact, his definition, it fails. On its face, it describes girls--who are not women--and is therefore overinclusive.
Furthermore, as I said before, the assumption that Mattricia's interlocutor bears the burden to define "woman" is misplaced. That burden properly falls to the party asserting that a "stable definition" exists. To suppose otherwise is to excuse circular reasoning.
As a human we always strive for more, as a person growing up rural West Virginia I wasn't educated in a lot of things , racism homophobia transphobia it's all words that people use to hate on anothers. I know I'm not articulate but watching you Jessie helps me understand that there's so much good in this world that we can have faith that will we have our place in the Sun.
Everyone asks what is women, but nobody asks how is women
This is the true question that everyone should be asking. For there are billions Cis and Trans Women out there in the world and we must find out how we as a species, treats these members of society.
And yet nobody ask Why is women
When is a woman?
Where is women?
@@lovelylesbian5135 Hopefully in your vicinity because your username sounds like you would be lovely to be around!
This reminds me of the TLOU2 controversy where people didn't see Abby as a woman because she was muscular. So even if you're born a woman, but you built yourself differently, you're not a certified woman according to these people.
Bruh. That's not the only reason people hated TLOU2. They hated it because they either killed off or belittled the characters we liked, and forced us to like characters we don't care about, not to mention that GODAWFUL sex scene.
wat
@@jeremyusreevu237 Just ignore all the frothing at the mouth about Abby...out of sight out of mind...
@@jeremyusreevu237 Calm down, the OP only said that there was a controversy around Abby's gender because of her build, they did not comment on the quality of the game whatsoever.
@@jeremyusreevu237 I mean the voice actor got death threats over it. Thank god people that get upset over video games will never reproduce.
GET READY FOR THE TROLLS
Also 4:36, the “only meant to be for Matt Walsh’s right-wing audience” sounds REALLY like what Thought Slime talked about in “The Most Hateful Book ever Read”. What a coincidence that these books were meant to bring people to their most extreme. I wonder what’s happening.
And get this man out of my NYC. Now.
Here comes the army of 24 year olds that hit their dog when they lose at xbox and wear baseball hats everywhere.
"And get this man out of my NYC. Now"
Woah woah, calm down, mr fascist. Chill.
@@Mant111 I see your other comments, comment history is a thing, you’re just a troll, trans rights are human rights :) 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
I thought of a few things, but the two that stood out was a song
Sarah de Jager, which was about one of the top fishermen in Namibia in the 70s & 80s that happens to be female.
The other was Johny Clegg who was a Zulu. Therefore his skin colour didn't stop him to be a Zulu. The other question to Mat would be whether Michael Jackson was black or white.
Matt Walsh saying that trans people aren't getting hate is like a serial killer saying that no one's getting murdered
Nobody's saying that trans people aren't getting hate though.
I'm making a whole documentary hating on trans and NB people but they aren't getting any hate, why would you think that you whiny lib? /S
It's typical for conservatives of a privileged demographic to speak with so much arrogance on struggles they have no idea about and dismiss the real, lived experiences of people different than them.
@@Mant111 Matt is.
You get hate because all y’all do is bitch and moan about inclusion and when you’re included…. Which also means being criticized you cry bigotry and call everyone phobes. Either grow up and accept it or shut up.
"I give my son a bb gun and that's all the emotional support he needs" I don't think Matt Walsh is a very good father.
I fear for that boy's future
He absolutely considered molesting them at least once
The scene with the kids' birthday party where all the boys are wearing blue and doing "boy" things and all the girls wearing pink and doing "girl" things, is giving me strong "But I'm a Cheerleader" memories.
But also, it's like Matt Walsh and other conservatives ALMOST get it. When they talk about the differences between boys and girls, they almost always point to non-sex-related things; like behavior, mindset, social differences, and emotions. Conservatives lean on a lot of bad stereotypes, and they don't believe there's any gray area or overlap between boys and girls. But they do understand (on some level) that gender is not just genitals or chromosomes or gonads. It should not be that big of a leap for them to embrace that gender identity is a thing and that sometimes gender identity is different than assigned gender.
Matt Walsh takes the "men don't show their feelings" dogma so seriously he won't even look at his own children with love
It's honestly kind of scary. I hope they have compassionate adultsi n their life who model emotions and help the kids talk through feelings when they are overwhelming or just new.
I bet you see him not loving his children every day thats how you came to that conclusion didnt you buddy
Discusting, how low, to just assume such a thing!!! ... really low!!!
honestly i saw a video of him reading a childrens book he wrote for kids and he had no feelings towards to the children other then trying to shove his views down their throat. at one point he asked them and they are 5 or 6 years old do you know what a bigot is.
@@emreakkaya6400 I'm pretty sure the conclusion comes from simply listening to all the nonsense Matt talks.
You know what I find most chilling is "Give my son a bb gun and that's all the emotional support he needs". And we WONDER why gun violence is so rampant, especially in our schools. Like... they all like to make fun of "emotional support" animals, but... an emotional support gun??? *sigh*
It's worse than that, it's emotional repression and misogyny-- you're not "a man" if you have emotions that aren't anger or stoicism-- or you're gay if you have emotions-- because that's a woman's trait. So gay men aren't MEN according to that logic.
@@neoqwerty GHAhahaahah
"emotional repression and misogyny"... geez, chill.
@@Mant111 Sir, if you don’t consider having to affirm your masculinity by making kids have their only source of emotional support being guns, you may need to get help. Honestly.
@@peskypigeonx If you can't tell a joke from reality, maybe it's you who needs to touch some grass. It's amazing how many cultists took the BB gun joke seriously. What frauds.
@@Mant111 that's objectively what is though?
I can imagine a better What Is A Woman? documentary not by Matt Walsh. One where women, trans and cis, are asked "what is a woman to you" and "how/what do you feel preventing as a woman." Men can be interviewed their gender, enbys can talk about how society forces gender on people, scholars can explain the psychology and sociology of gender.
Edit: maybe trans-medicalists could be interviewed with some pressing questions opposing their views, followed by someone else explaining how harmful and gatekeepy it is.
It could've been really good.
The problem is that there's no answer to that. You ask them "what is a woman" and they have no definition.
That's the problem that Matt Walsh seeks to highlight with his videos.
ikr it pisses me off how good of a premise this documentary actually had 😭😭
I agree. It could have even kept Dr. Grzanka.
@@Mant111 As Jessie explained so thoroughly in a video I'm starting to think you haven't actually watched, Matt Walsh is not even remotely attempting to actually do that.
@@kashiichan I doubt of the honesty of a video that literally starts off with a label "Warning! This guy is evil and a monster!".
This is exactly why I love your videos. You're able to make a horrible, angering and upsetting topic something enjoyable to watch. The way your videos are edited, the way it breaks up the bad stuff and has humour in it, really makes the bad stuff watchable.
Please take care of yourself, it can't be easy watching it all❤️
I felt so disgusted when he said, "Give my son a BB gun, and that's all the emotional support he needs." I grew up with a father he was a conservative "manly man" and I couldn't be emotionally open with him. Being raised to ignore your feelings and just "be tough" is so toxic.
While the “what if I identify as a black man” argument sounds strong on the service, it reeks of false equivalence to me as it assumes that identifying as a black person is effectively the same as identifying as a woman, which isn’t really true. Being a black person mainly requires possessing certain ethnic and racial heritage, and that’s more or less it. Identifying as a woman, however, is far more nuanced, carrying biological, mental, and societal connotations. To identify as a black person is to have at least a large amount of black/African heritage, while to identify as a woman would require one to simply see themselves as such, trumping their original biology. Gender is a fair bit more conceptual and free-form in comparison to ethnicity, as both womanhood and manhood have very different appearances pertaining to culture and even history, with sexual biology being more of a chunk of what codifies one’s gender. This sort of gets into the inherent difficulty of answering what a woman is, as any other answer alternative to “one who identifies as such” will contrast with dozens of other cultural and historical views. Can’t really say a woman is purely a denizen of the domestic sphere when the equally valid world view of a fair bit of traditional Southeast Asian cultures, such as Vietnam, are much more matriarchal.
It's just another variation on The One Joke.
Didn't Walsh write a transphobic children's book comparing being trans to a boy thinking he was a tiger and villainising the parents for "fueling his delusions"? Sorry if I got something wrong.
Well, gender is a natural and real human variation, ....identifying is about the authority to know and define yourself. 'Race' also isn't really a hard category, either, despite other attributed characteristics. What group or category one's in kind of comes from various traits and upbringings and 'group memerships' etc, ...people can be raised immersed in Black communities/family and not look Black, for instance, though their cultural 'identification' may have always been in contrast to, say, their skin color. I'm not really in a great position to speak there, but I've listened to various people who are. (Which often comes down to things going on on multiple levels that Walsh is also trying to reduce to absolutes even if people really are very often mixed regarding 'racial' and cultural traits. )
A better analogy would be take someone who is half black and half white and ask if they'll identify as the colour of their same gender parent. Which some will and some won't. Just like some people will identify with their assigned at birth gender and some won't...
@@1greninjawolfbossdeath648 A walrus, actually. A tiger would have been picked up and RAN WITH by the trans furries way, way more-- and would have sounded "cool", and we can't have that, gotta have a "pathetic" animal that's ugly and lumbering.
(Of course he also doesn't know shit about animals and doesn't know how hardass walruses are and also I always think of Jamie Hyneman when I think walrus and ain't gonna lie, he'd absolutely be transition goals for me if I didn't set my sights on being more of a himbo.)
Something tells me that anyone who was able to answer that question was unceremoniously edited out.
Almost certainly
Ironically that's exactly what he did, the only bits left in were chopped up snippets to make the experts interviewed look batshit insane and then a final bit where he basically admits he's too dense to understand and just asks the question again, then a quick surprise Pikachu bit when they throw him and his camera crew out of their offices, theirs a few of those and then several where he picks people specifically uninformed or misinformed too just reinforce his nonsense, the whole thing can be surmised as propaganda more than it can be called a film or even a documentary, it's literally unabashedly fascist propaganda
So far as I could tell it is all based around simple people wanting to think that simple questions must have simple answers. Which of course they don't always. Unless you're simple...
@@RageOfBeef So what is a woman?
@@jamestoliman9081 Your mom, shut up.
There was a case in Ohio, where a transman was asked to use the women's washroom.
Even though he was a biological woman, he was out of place in the bathroom. Because of that, a bunch of transphobes beat the crap out of him.
It think it speaks volumes about how we perceive gender.
@@spookysquib5862 idk, it doesn't seem very poggers to me
Based transphobes
@@benitomussolini7436 don't you have a bridge to hang upside down from?
Well if you look like a man and going into a women toilet people will be disgusted really what did you expect
That's why transgender people should have a separate rest room for the safety and privacy of everyone.
Ironically, Matt does ask a good question. He asks "what is a cat?" Most people couldnt tell you. Even scientists struggle with crude classifications that tend to encompass a whole species. It turns out life is pretty diverse and hard to group together. We have mammals that lay eggs and have beaks. Its almost as if physical traits are a pretty shallow way to class things.
i think thats why we try to genetically identify things
Even genetics are sorta fuzzy. When is a regional variant different enough to be a new subspecies? What about definitely different species that can interbreed with fertile offspring? Science is complicated.
@@sarahr8311 sure it's complicated, but it's not exactly a mystery, and it shouldn't be.
Actually I think he asked the person "are you a cat" ... "can you tell me what a cat is" ... the comment was direct I believe at the person saying you cant try to define what something is unless you're that thing. So he used the cat example.
Also I dont think its very hard to give a basic definition of a cat. A mammal belonging to the the feline species.
So while I've not watched this beyond seeing the trailer, I think his point of the documentary is to get an answer beyond a woman is a woman or a woman is someone identifying as woman since that ends up as a circular logic which doesn't really define anything.
@@k.-flynn My argument would be that the words we use to describe things work really well up to a point, and when we insist they work for every occasion, we're usually wrong. Species, male/female, alive/dead, all of them are things that seem intuitive but kinda aren't when you get into the details.
I love that this guy decided that he, as a man, should make a documentary supposedly delving into what a WOMAN is, instead of examining his own sex or gender. Because that would force him to think about uncomfortable questions and, I assume, confront the ways in which he feels he does not live up the traditional conceptions of masculinity. No, let's scrutinize The Other instead. And there was nary a challenging thought, opinion, or question to be found for the rest of the piece.
I think that not fitting into 'traditional concept of masculinity' is very different than saying 'I am not a man because I love balet'?
So in my point of view just rethinking of what being a man or a woman means in behavioral and social context is better then inventing 62 more genders.
I think all ot this is going in a weird direction which is not going to help anybody.
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@@evolvingspirit4632 Huh? Also I'm pretty sure you'll find Walsh never admitting to liking ballet or in fact anything deeper than his fascistic sense of fragile masculinity and anti-inteellectualism. Or apparently listening to his daughters either. He surely never got a *chance* to love ballet *because* of his idea of 'What is a man' in fact. (Not that I'm big on ballet, myself, but I've seen some modern dance I got into. :) )
@@evolvingspirit4632 one, no trans person says they're trans because they love ballet,
two, Matt Walsh is the kind of man to call his son a sissy for wanting to do ballet, and that's his bullshit to deal with, not trans people's. The only one who thinks "I'm manly/girly, which means I must be a man/woman" is people like Walsh.
@Cillian well that is one way to look at it and I hope you are right.
But I am not so optimistic as it seems like we are losing our minds slowly but surely.
Can I just say that if there was representation of men and women just being friends with no "oh wait I do find them attractive all along" plot, or "I'm not into you I'm actually into your brother" plot. Then Mat Walsh would believe that men and women really can be friends, and aren't lying about it.
A fine example of how representation in media matters.
What is clear to me is that Matt Walsh and his ilk can’t be friends with women... I guess if its his experience it must be true universally because Matt Walsh knows all and represents all.
On top of that, most people can be friends with people they find attractive. Doesn't mean you're in love with them.
This is such a good point I have totally overlooked
Honestly. I remember the moment this crystallized for me. I was watching The Killing with my girlfriend at the time. The male and female buddy cop duo were doing their thing, starting to overcome their differences, learning each other’s strengths. My girlfriend said something along the lines of, “I hope they become a couple at some point” and I replied, “if they fall in love, I’m out.”
Can we just show a man and a woman working together and not have them fall in love? Just sometimes, to mix things up? And without one of them being gay, let me add.
@@JustAMagicDuck fuck yeah, like give us real platonic love for once
The bit where he says that pronouns are about expressing a biological reality is super funny when you consider languages like Bahasa Malaysia which only have one pronoun, dia, which is used for everyone regardless of gender.
Which, off topic, but is also why orangutan should be translated as person of the jungle and not man of the jungle because orang means person, as in orang asli meaning original people and used to describe the indigenous populations. If it was man of the jungle it would be lelaki-utan.
There are also sexist elements of the malay language from my understanding
@@snoopy-girl your point being? Like, what elements are you referring to? And what does that have to do with the fact that dia is a gender neutral pronoun? Or that orang mean person and not "man" in the way English uses "man" as a substitute for humanity?
Or like Chinese and how the gendered pronouns found only in writing came about from contact with Europeans.
@@snoopy-girl There are sexist elements of most languages. I can personally vouch for Hebrew, Arabic, and Amharic, but I think just about any natural language older than maybe 50 years is going to have sexist elements. Yes, including European languages. Yes, including English.
@@laurebourgeois7256 yeah, that's kinda my point. That he's using the existence of gendered pronouns in one language to argue that gender exists as a biological reality, but if that were the case then gendered pronouns would exist in all languages, yet they don't. And some languages contain more than two gendered pronouns. So his argument falls apart because language does not determine biological reality.
Gosh, I would really rather watch a feature-length interview with the professor than listen to Matt Walsh. I was so mad Matt chopped up his answer! I wanted to hear it!
What is a woman?
The point was, he waffled because he couldn't answer it, as could none of the other interviewees, instead being met with uncontrollable rage and illogical answers.
@@jimmyohare8116 How could you possibly know he didn't answer it when his answer was literally edited out??😂 I swear I gotta start huffing paint like you guys it seems WILD
@@dr.wolfstar1765 What is a Christian?
@@voyagervessels2398 A miserable little pile of secrets!
Jessie, I adore you. I am now crafting a fanfiction centered around the titular character.... Glitterhands. But seriously, thank you for all of the hard work that went into this. You are so sharp, so funny and so right on. I am so glad that I found your channel a couple of months back. This lovely and loving community that you have here is a direct reflection of you. I am always so moved by your courage. As an aside, are you familiar with Nick Diramio? If so, how funny would it be if he did a Clip Breakdown of this Matt Walsh nonsense movie? I think the two of you would do an amazing collaboration. Sorry, just trying to make all of my dreams come true here🤗
Thank you for going through this topic, it must be difficult.
One thing I can say, as a historian, is that what is a woman is actually a very contextual question.
Throughout history societies have had different and evolving understandings of men and women, from what I gather the idea that a man worked and a woman stayed in the home would be alien to a medieval person, partly because that assumption relies on a pattern of work which came about under capitalism but also because come harvest time the entire family (indeed village) would be out collecting the produce of the fields and if they were a family which practiced a trade then the family would be working the trade. Even later in history, most women were not just doing housework but were often small business owners, making goods, selling services to supplement the family income if they were not in the factory themselves (although this was rarer outside certain industries). In a way it's more a circumstance of the 1945 - circa 1968 that often cemented some of these ideas about men and women, as working people became finally affluent enough to support a family on one income but were not yet affluent enough to afford servants (middle class people would hire people to do house work) and the advent and availability of consumer appliances, cleaner fuels, and the like also meant it was actually viable for keeping a home full of new furnishings and clean and spotless even in the relatively lower (not lowest but lower than before) income brackets.
Anyway, Hope everyone is having a nice day and I hope to all out there you'll are having as good a time as you can and if you need a smiley face here's one :)
It was lovely having you here.
As a very amateur history nerd, THANKYOU!!! These people's entire notion of history is a uniform "back then" based on 1950s USAmerica, which was ofc one of the most repressive, intolerant eras EVER- even the Victorian era was more liberal in many ways, & that's still only looking at recent Western history.
@@beth7935 Thank you for your support. Ironically a big part of the prudish image of the Victorians is thanks to the various 'Conservative Panics' of the 1950s where they made up the idea that prior to the 2 world wars everyone was prim-proper-heterosexual and middle class. I wonder how St. Joan of Arc would feel about his notion of womanhood. Keep up the good work as a historian, it's the best way to avoid being caught up in narratives.
Even in the mid-20th century (industrial age), in the lower classes, women were expected to do work of some kind. My grandmother worked until she got pregnant. Due to a promotion my grandfather got later, she was able to continue to stay at home when my mom turned 3, rather then try to find someone to watch my mom and go back to work, like most of the women in the neighborhood. Most of my mother’s friends growing up had to go home after school to help take care of their younger siblings so their mother could go to work (they also often had to help pre-prep the evening meal which would be served while their mother was still at work). If they lived in a multi-generational household they might get a break, but that already wasn’t as common by 1930, despite the economic realities of the time.
@@omnichrome9784 Definitely correct, and while the idea of a Single Income home among blue collar workers became possible with the rising in Individual Purchasing Power after World War 2 (leading to the development of the Lower Middle Class, my fault for not being specific in language) it was by no means universal or even the norm as you correctly say.
Women have a uterus. It actually stops right there and has nothing to do with history.
As gender is a societal construct, we need only ask ourselves who faces sexism and misogyny? Matt Walsh defines trans women as women every time he or one of his supporters lashes out at one. They would not treat a man in a similar fashion.
I wonder how this differs from how he treats trans men? Perhaps in a patronizing way like jordan peterson does?
In which case that does fit with their biological origins no?
Treat trans women as mixed up or even predatory men,
Treat trans men as mixed up women in need of protecting from themselves?
@@NoOne-hg1qc I hate to say it but most cis men will have a hard time accepting a trans man as a man even if they use the correct pronouns. I could be wrong, but I imagine a trans woman would have an easier time fitting into female hierarchies than a trans man trying to fit into a male hierarchy. Hell, I think a lesbian woman would have an easier time competing in a male hierarchy than a trans man.
Actually he is treating a man in similar fashion because hes speaking about men who transition to women and women who transition to men.so im not sure what yoir point was here exactly.....
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 my first instinct is to agree with this on the whole. I mean .. I think your comment agrees with mine, yes?
"Matt Walsh defines trans women as women every time he or one of his supporters lashes out at one."
Umm..okay. I guess that must make some sense to you.
I am a man, and I think as Matt Walsh does about this issue. And like Matt, I will debate anyone on this topic, male or female. And I don't know anyone on this side of the debate who cares what sex the person making a particular point is. It either makes sense or it doesn't. A stupid point made by a man is just as stupid as if it were made by a woman. And as far as I can see gets the same scathing response. Nice try to confuse and sidetrack the debate though. Personal attacks are all your side seems to have at their disposal. Which is of course one of Matt's points too...
I know this video is over a year old, but I still want to comment on this video. Similar to another commenter, I also have to admit Matt Walsh Tactic and Manipulation had worked on me as well as I watched his video alongside other Conservative youtuber when Roe V. Wade got overturned.
As during the summertime of 2022, I kept watching these conservative videos on UA-cam, because I thought these were people who I could trust since they were adults, but Unknown to me and not noticing the sign I was being manipulated by these people. During the beginning of my Junior year of High School, after watching a lot of people on Tik-Tok who came from those minority, such as Tran, LGBTQ+, etc., I came to realize that these people were wrong and was spreading hurtful, bigotry, and hateful thing toward those people and because of that I stop watching these people on UA-cam.
Right now, in 2023 I’m in my senior year of school as I am now 18-year-old and I’m no longer watching his videos alongside other conservative videos on UA-cam. Now, from Nov 29-Dec 1 of 2023 in my senior years, I am dealing with a lot of guilt, shame, and being very upset about having to watch these conservative people on UA-cam. As on Wednesday, Nov 29, I was crying from guilt and shame for having to watch these videos of people who are downright awful, spreading bigotry, and dehumanization rhetoric.
I'm glad I don't watch and consume his video and other conservative video on UA-cam, but the guilt and shame of watching and consuming his video is still there.
awe you're really young to go through this journey so quickly and become more wise! and now you will be able to recognise the many other similar manipulative traps that exist in the world. I grew up in a cult & was one of those people for so many years, so shit like this video hits extra hard bc I was so connected to it.... but the positive is that I will {with the help of a hair-trigger intuition*} never go back into a cult mindset again
*i say this bc i know, never say never
Don't be so hard on yrself, you were literally a child.
Another excellent video! I liked how you added humor into the narrative while still taking the subject seriously. It's interesting how MW says he's interested in "the truth" while ignoring the truth entirely. It's so obvious he's trying to impose his fantasy of what reality should be onto the real world. I think conservatives are afraid of "gender ideology" because it's an attempt to adjust our perspectives on gender to be more in line with people's real experience, but conservatives don't want to let go of their fantasies.
I hope the backlash on this video isn't too bad. People get so defensive and angry when someone pokes holes in their fantasies. If it is bad, try to remember that this has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them, and there are people who support you 100%.
You are aware that you can literally turn this comment around towards trans people, correct? That they're trying to impose their fantasies of what reality should be onto others and the world around them. That trans people are afraid of conforming to a gender dichotomy because it threatens their already fragile sense of self. They want their experiences and beliefs to match reality even when it doesn't.
They get defensive and angry when you poke holes in their fantasies, such as lashing out or calling you transphobic. Just remember that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them.
Surely you can see how easily this can be turned around.
It reminds me of how Steven Crowder calls his segment "Change My Mind" but interrupts, talks over, and tries to sidetrack anyone who gets close to presenting good arguments.
@@morgannyan2738 No he doesn't
@@morgannyan2738 He doesn't
@@morgannyan2738 he doesn't. change my mind.
I just finished reading reading "Native Tongue", an 80s feminist scifi novel and (while I have some issues with that work) people like Mat Walsh as depicted in his documentary seems like he would fit right in with the bumbling-yet-self-assured men depicted in that novel... so would a lot of right-wing 'intellectual' men of the media today, to be honest... it's kinda messing with my head.
Anyway, awesome media deconstruction as always, Jessie! Keep it up!
It's a bit less brainbreaking when you understand that these people are regurgitating hellenistic philosophers-- all cis men, all straight, none of them actually engaging in philosophy with their female peers of similar ages, only with women ten, twenty years their younger and indoctrinated into thinking academia is only for MEN.
The amount of times I can identify Aristotle's bullshit is amazing, 'cause I've only SKIMMED Aristotle's bullshit in context of Galenic physiology, for decoding alchemical texts' symbolism correctly, and in context of christian theological history. If SKIMMING gave me the same amount of depth philosophy-wise as they like to regurgitate...?
@@thatotherted3555 Native Tongue (sorry!)
@@MakiPcr Suzette Haden Elgin (it's Native Tongue, not Native Song, sorry!)
The thing I hate most is when these men say that I (as a cis woman) can’t handle trans women in my bathroom. I work at a really trans friendly company and both trans men and women use the womens bathroom (for the most part). I feel this is because the womens restroom has always been seen as a safe space. Even when it was conceived it was in order to give women privacy from men, to be able to not be stared at as a sexual object while going through the everyday bodily processes we all go through. I think it is the reason why even the trans men at my company will still use the ladies room. Everyone who goes in is respectful and minds their own business (well we do do some gossiping from time to time ;) ). But it’s just garbage to say that simply because someone is trans they are going to cause problems in a restroom. Anyone who Harasses people in any bathroom is going to need to be dealt with. Bathroom harassment is not inextricably linked to trans ppl. I would argue it is probably more of a cis man on cis man thing in the mens room. Lol. The worst thing I’ve dealt w in a locker room was the mean girls in junior high, not completely friendly folks from a marginalized community.
Well, strictly speaking, bathroom harassment is not linked to trans women at *all,* except if they're the ones harrassed, or other women are harrassed on pretext they *might* be trans women by whatever weird logic haters use.
(And, frankly, I've known *lots* of transwomen over the years, mostly when I was doing more related helping there, but for any given dubious ladies' room, I'd feel safer with any one of them there than *without* them there. )
this is such a beautiful way to put it
Although it does seem to be the case that women's bathrooms were created as a safe space for women, it doesn't seem to be the case that this was because of sexual objectification in bathrooms specifically.
After all, prior to bathroom segregation, the option wasn't shared bathrooms. It was that women weren't allowed in public bathrooms at all. Public spaces are for men; women belong in the home. Bathroom segregation was a way to create a "private" space in the public sector to protect women's fragile ego, not because there was a track record of abuse.
I have found less evidence quickly pulling up research tabs of a theory I saw a while back, which is that it was around this time that the assumption of who was the aggressor in terms of sexual advances was reversed. Women weren't allowed in men's bathrooms because they were temptresses, not because they were in danger.
Let me break this down nice and simple for you. I am a queer cis woman and I am afraid of being raped in the women's restroom by a man at say, a college, where many girls have been raped by boys.
This literally comes up in a clip of Matt Walsh's movie USED IN THIS VIDEO! People who make this argument aren't afraid of trans women in their bathrooms; they're afraid of men who lie, of men who are predators. Like the professor said, "Yes I am aware that human beings can lie".
I haven't met a single person who thinks that trans people are harassing others in the bathroom. No one says that, but if the way someone chooses to present themself and the way that they physically appear due to their sex, says nothing about their gender; then their is literally no rule stopping a predator, who is a man, from simple claiming that he is a women and just go walking into a women's restroom looking for his next victim.
You see the kind of Pandora's Box you've opened here; if it's considered a hate crime or harassment to assume someone's gender or to question their gender, then nothing stops men from using this to their advantage to hurt women.
@@nerdydragonfan how much does daily wire pay per comment? Do you get bonuses for length, or just if they’re dumb?
"Give my son a BB gun and that's all the emotional support he needs."
That poor kid.
Its so sad and he has 6 kids🤦🏽♀️
Yeah, not to get too dark but people teach boys they can't talk about if something is bothering them then give them a gun. Not very healthy in my opinion.
@@concernedcommenter8258 I certainly doubt that a person who talks about a shooting that happened in an LGBTQ club by saying "If doing drag shows causes hate crimes why are they still doing them" is that nuanced and understanding of a parent.
@@concernedcommenter8258 you are a disturbing creature
@@concernedcommenter8258 that pretty much tells me the kid hates him.
Haven’t finished the video yet but I think it’s interesting that Matt assumes his son doesn’t “need” emotional support. I feel like that’s his assumptions about gender getting in the way of a potentially deeper relationship with his child. Like the kid looks maybe eight, probably not a fully developed brain or personality yet. How does he *know* that his son only needs a gun to take care of his emotional needs? Has his son verbalized this? I would assume probably not, since children don’t often come out and say, “I don’t need this specific kind of emotional fulfillment.”
And contrariwise - if a BB gun IS all the emotional support his son needs, I'm STILL worried about the kid, just very differently.
@@jeffengel2607 yeah that’s a good point
"fun" reminder: a neglected child who's used to being neglected will be perceived as calm and not needy. Not because they don't have needs but because they learned their needs don't matter.
Right? My father was raised in a similar way, and he’s told me about how harmful it was to him. He told me his mother had only told him that she loves him ONCE! Like- men are emotional beings. They’re not robots!! SHIT!!!!
@@bee1411 yeah like maybe give your kids love and attention equally regardless of gender idk
So to get this straight Rowling cares so much about hating transgender people that as an ardent feminists she finds Walsh entertaining...
Yeah. When you hate transwomen, you've left feminism.
IKR?!?!
See, that's why some people have started using the acronym FART instead of TERF. Feminism-Appropriating Reactionary Transphobe. Because what feminist would give praise to an avowed anti-feminist just for hating on trans people?
The funny thing is she defendents her transphobia by saying it is about caring for women's rights but supports a documentary that is misogynitic (the way he bases all women on his daughter being more than enough evidence).
@@1greninjawolfbossdeath648
what documentary?
Excellent video, as always, Jessie! Although I suspect many of them are just being willfully ignorant, I don't understand how people don't see how language, cultural norms, and gender performance has been changing and rearranging since the dawn of time.
If you weren't there, it's really easy to pick and choose what you believe about history to suit your current preferences, and people depicting history ("historian" is too generous a word for many of them) are well paid and lauded for catering to those preferences. Some of that surely is willful ignorance, but if you're confident enough about "common sense", then you've got a "reason" to take confirming evidence (or "evidence") as relevant and true and to reject disconfirming evidence as misleading, irrelevant, untrue, and/or fabricated out of "ideology".
@@jeffengel2607 Well, by that logic, nothing has ever happened and is factually incorrect since in order for any event at all, even one happening right now, would require everyone who wasn't there to be there.
Granted, in the grand scheme, and how time-space works, yeah, technically that's accurate, as accurate as the opposite since super-positioning requires contradictory events to occur simultaneously... But then we go down to general consensus reality vs actual reality, and at that point having any motivations, passions, or even living, is pointless.
Now, as a Taoist, sure, I see that futility and embrace the composite reality we live in due to said futility, however, I'm pretty sure that's not the level of communication you're attempting to say whilst masking what you're saying via convolution.
Just so we're clear, there are records of many deities from as far back as ancient Greece or before which were trans.
Humans write myths, erego, regardless of any arguments of whether history is or isn't valid, mythology itself, even mythology which was heavily altered by xtians speaks of those deities.
So, despite your word salad and double-speak, to say the metaphorical boat you're attempting to sail is leaky is an understatement.
@@ObscuriaDragunAed Kinda hard to process "convolution" as a sincere accusation in this context.
@@ObscuriaDragunAed You don't even know about the anglo-saxon academic bias, and before that the hellenistic academic bias, and the information control carried out by the early orthodox christianity, do you, to just cite what I've actually dug into while delving into history and theology for my story worldbuilding.
I'm gonna cite just one example where historians are agreeing today WASN'T the whole truth: Henry IV and Richard II's political relationships, both individually and toward one another. History flip-flopped several times according to who the historians were biased for and against and historic sensibilities.
There's a whole FIELD dedicated to "false history" that's accepted as truth-- Folk history. It's easiest to notice in pagan cultures like wicca, where sections of "history" was made up of whole cloth, because it's just recent enough that we have proof of the lack of historical evidence AND can see that it rooted itself into common tradition as if it was true history.
How much more do we have that's a more modern invention taken at face value because we're missing the texts that say otherwise? I mean even my favorite ancient bro, Lucian of Samosata, pointed out that in his time the "chroniclers" made up false myths and claims and other people just took it to be real on appeal to authority.
And let's not start with continents that don't exist like Lemuria, which were best-attempt guesswork at explaining migration of species before plate tectonics gained ground as a theory.
All history is written by the survivors, the victors, and further modified by politics. The best we can do is take as many different accounts as we can find and analyze it through those many eyes-- and not only through the most popular and prolific academic lens of anglo-saxon people, observing from the outside.
@@neoqwerty To ignore the actual point, what's the controversy with Henry IV & Richard II? I only know basic stuff, I'm more familiar with the later Henry who usurped the later Richard, but I'm interested & trying to learn more.
To be fair, he has that “smug, sarcastic” look on his face in every interview, even when listening to people who agree with his perspective on the issue. I think that’s just how his face is
And you will have none answer to you commentary because this is not what LGBT community is looking for. That will not validate their opinions.
Brilliant argument.
@@Draco19970125
Wellllll, google says it’s “a female adult” and “a person with the qualities traditionally associated with females.” So I guess there are multiple types of woman?
@@Draco19970125 "A gender identity most closely associated with qualities roles, and attributes that are viewed as being feminine within any given society."
So we can all agree that this practice and narrative is false and harmful to humans. Men cannot become women in any way shape or form.
That beard will not change the fact that you are a woman!
You know I really can't tell ... America is dead inside
This is good
She got the goofy ahh uncle fit (respect)
What do you mean by woman?
@@jme1mm what's a woman I don't know is it a tree ?
"...women were understood to be a certain thing"
"women are a mystery..."
Make up your mind, Matt!
Bigoted troll tagged and bagged.
Self-righteous npc checked and keked
@@MarkSiefert but he's right
@@arthurcheater3359 Well we know what a woman is, and you don't. That says a lot about where you stand 😂😂😂😂👍
Off the bat, Matt Walsh has to be missing a screw if he's not asking "What is a man?" at the same time. It shows what's really on his mind. Mysogyny and self hate? Not gonna assume the latter, but at this point it deserves to be the first question to challenge any bigot on.
Because he can't answer that question. That the reason.
Transmen drop off the radar entirely; transwomen are visible and transgressive. There isn't political hay to make from transmen.
@@jeffengel2607 isn't that a beautiful fact? I mean the part about how trans men fall off the radar. I should try this in a stand-up set. "There are real men walking around at every turn, they could very well be your best buddy , but they have a vagina. All these years we've been taught that we Butch men should not be pussies, the real men the real fucking men who know with certainty that being manly is who they are came with a pussy attached. And yet they had the balls to say no! I'm a man's man damn it! That's how you know, it's true. Don't tell me most of the dudes in here have the balls to do something that brave."
Let me answer that for you: a man is an adult human male
@@argentum001 Nice try. You failed college biology. That is not a completely accurate statement.
Even if you want to define your own terms, what would it mean for an individual to fall under your definition of "man" in every way except that a particular neuronal circuit in this individual's brain expresses female? Would they still be a man? Why or why not? What argument do you have to claim that one set of terms is more efficient, seeing as how this goes straight to being a semantic argument?
I do wanna add to the part where you mention a lot of these people are actually curious and are asking real questions. I fully agree with this. I'm actually friends with a straight conservative person while I myself am a bisexual woman. She has told me many times before that I have changed how she looks at LGBT people for the better and I think it's because I've sat down and explained things to her in a way she'll understand. Of course, she herself has also sat down with an open mind and listened to me talk.
In my opinion, a lot of these people are confused with our current changing world. The problem lied when they don't *want* to understand.
That makes a lot of sense! And some people change and adapt and learn over time. I remember when I was in middle school, and this girl was bisexual. I grew up in a small town, so I grew up to understand things more. I remember not wanting to be around her cuz I thought she might like me and the whole things felt weird as a middle schooler. I also thought that the girls who said they were bisexual were trying to get attention and how could they know at that age that they are bisexual. And then come to realize later in my life in my early 20’s, I realized I was a heteroaromatic bisexual 🤣🤣🤣 All that to say that people adapt over time, and people won’t always be or think the same lol
I love this.
Like, it makes me want to chomp into the transcript of Matt's Trash with all the power of an ex-English Student, just to crit it the way you'd read and crit a student's essay: you generally need to ask a question, then prove the answer, but rather than pulling out papers, this bigot just seems to move onto the next question, which makes the previous question redundant. When you make a question reduundant, why ask that question? Commonly, that's to distract or alter the way the viewer/reader takes the next question, so if you do that enough, circle it around enough... Suddenly you're right back at your initial question, which you sound like you have answered, when really, you have answered nothing.
It's incredible how transparent Matt is with his propaganda. The moment he's confronted with an actual attempt at an honest in-depth answer, coming from someone who's spent a career studying this topic, an answer which takes into account the genuine complexity of the situation, he literally chooses to cut it up into a jokey cross-fade montage so it can't be heard. He might as well have faded out the professor's voice, turned to the camera and said "what a nerd, right? Did you think we were actually going to take this seriously? No. You already know what to think, and it's what I'm telling you to think. Don't listen to that professor. We don't want you to listen. Don't think. We don't want you to think."
Their pre-radicalised audience will eat it up because they're in on that same 'joke'. They already have their minds made up, and they aren't interested in a conversation. The film was made simply to clip trans people / allies out of context to make them sound ridiculous, to find 'gotcha' moments with random people on the street, to reinforce the fact that you Should Not listen and you Should Not think and This Is All A Big Joke.
Matt & co do NOT want their audience to realise that LGBTQ people are asking exactly those same questions, "what is a woman?" and "what is a man?" but actually in good faith. We're not asking those questions with a pre-determined 'agenda', and we're not asking those questions 'for the sake of it', not as just an idle thought experiment, but because the definitions we currently have, have been hurting so many people for such a long time. There was already a problem, and we're reacting to that problem.
They certainly do NOT want their audience to know the facts underlying this conversation, and why we need to have it. Hence why they brazenly lie about 5 times a minute. That short section where you played a clip of Matt making a series of claims about trans issues while flashing up a tiny fraction of the articles which contradict his claims... that's basically what runs through my mind every time I make the mistake of interacting with one of these fools on twitter. If you provide them with large amounts of overwhelming, reliably sourced evidence they falter, but they have so many rhetorical devices and fallacies to fall back on you can't stall them for long. They're very well-trained in debate tactics, and they're happy to lie through their teeth. Unfortunately that's an effective sales technique.
The lies are so constant and so boldly stated. We've all heard Shapiro talk. Matt is very much Shapiro-lite in this aspect. Constant just CONSTANT provably false statements delivered so quickly and so confidently, and re-asserted if anyone tries to argue back, only now with an 'exasperated' tone. Lies building upon lies to create an 'argument' which is lies all the way down. The only way to confront that kind of charlatanism is if you're extremely well prepared, extremely confident, have all your sources to hand... and even then unless that conversation is heavily moderated the Shapiro/Walshes of the world will literally steamroll and talk directly over you so you can't be heard.
[Edit:] Ok I finished the video, and want to add that the conversation you had with that guy on the street really made me feel hopeful. I wish you had the full video, because he seemed like a thoughtful guy, and I think those kind of conversations are so important! I have to remind myself of how many times I've seen cis people who were initially unsure, skeptical, who may even have been tending toward gender critical ideology because of how confusing and 'bizarre' it all seemed to them (and how the GCs prey on that feeling) but who were nonetheless willing to step back and engage in open, long-form, friendly discussions with trans people (or just watch their videos/read their articles), who were willing to really listen, really research, really think, and eventually ended up becoming allies. I'm thinking of my own parents as examples. I've encountered quite a few of those people, and very often they had never actually met or socialised with a trans person before and really lacked knowledge of the subject, but were curious and willing to learn. So thank you, Jessie, for being one of the people out there using your voice to open up those conversations. It takes bravery to put yourself in that position, especially as an independant creator.
I really love how you approach these topics in a way that's genuinely open to questions and doesn't claim to have all the answers (unlike Matt). Because we don't have all the answers yet. I myself, as someone who was born female but never fit well into that role, have spent a long time asking the question "what is a woman", or rather I ask "what does being a woman/man feel like?" I've asked it of myself, and of other people, both cis and trans... it's almost a sort of personal project. And let me tell you, no one has a clear answer (usually cis people least of all)! The fact we don't have a concrete answer to this lofty, obscure philosophical question, and that we probably never will, does not mean we shouldn't be working with the lived realities of people around us, working with the latest research, with real results and real statistics not made-up spooky stories, trying our best to accommodate and protect all the kinds of people who live in society. But when transphobes are so aggressive, so quick to lie, when they're attacking people's rights to literally go to work, go to school, use the bathroom, receive medical treatment, it can be all too easy to let that push you into simplifying and hardening your ideas in retaliation, falling into an 'us vs. them' dynamic, getting into a defensive position and bracing for impact (I try to be aware of this tendency in myself). Content like yours always reminds me to take a deep breath, take a step back, look at what I can actually see around me, keep thinking and keep asking questions. Thank you for that.
Do you have any comments about all the other insane people with positions of power towards kids that he interviewed? Like that guy who kept asking for "his truth", or that absolutely creepy lady?
@@Mant111 I have two responses to that, both important:
1. The people in this documentary were largely clipped out of context, edited unfairly, and were also tricked into the interview under false pretences, meaning they might not have been in the best state of mind to articulate themselves when Matt questioned them. It's difficult to comment on what people said in the doc because they weren't really given space to express/explain themselves in a neutral environment, and we didn't get to hear their full answers.
2. Having said that, I don't automatically agree with everything every trans person or trans ally says. I think there's absolutely space for discussion about how we best support trans kids, and the vast, vast majority of trans people I know feel the same way. Like any random demographic of humans, trans people (and their allies) have a range of opinions, perspectives and personalities. There are always going to be people within any random selection who have positive and negative traits. So if a specific trans person/ally says something I disagree with, that doesn't negate my stance on trans rights.
These topics are still relatively new to the mainstream conversation, so it's going to take time to figure out and discuss the best way to do things. That's exactly why we're all here talking about this stuff all the time - because it's a reality, it isn't going anywhere, and we're trying to figure out the best way for us all to live together without anyone getting hurt - and without trans people (who exist and have always existed and will always exist! As inconvenient as you may find it!) continually being ostracised, attacked, suppressed, ignored, and pushed to suicide the way they have been in the past.
@@shockofthenew reminds me of that folding ideas video, about a bunch of scientists that got tricked into appearing in a geocentrism documentary which showed them as being in support of geocentrism. You can't judge someone based on how they appear in a shit documentary
@@shockofthenew I always hear this "Clipped out of context" excuse when people and their ideology are getting exposed. Ironic considering how I've seen the other side do just that very much all the time, with proof to back it up. Here however, you do not present any proof of that supposed edited clips and contexts. The one detail you have it right is using false pretences, but in this case it really doesn't matter nor change anything. That is how investigative journalism is done, because if he goes along the honest route and shows his cards at the beginning, nobody would agree for an interview. The other excuses done to why it -might- not have been the best state of mind are laughable. It all boils down to "It could have been this and that" to explain anything you don't like about the clips
That end paragraph though. Says a lot how this ideology is new and trying its best to replace some well established and reality based facts about how the human specie evolved to have two genders, and any challenge done against it is evil because suicide
@@shockofthenew According to Walsh all the interviewees were given the questions ahead of time.
Excellent video as always, Jessie. Your analysis is indepth and spot on. Great job!
Me: I want to be a man. I want you to call me a man, I want to wear men's clothing, I want to use the men's restroom. Specifically I am a trans man.
Matt Walsh: *wild accusation of horrible act towards children*
Me: I literally didn't even mention children. Unless you think I'm the child. I am not. I didn't even realize I was trans until adulthood.
Unfortunately wanting to be a man when you are a woman is like wanting to be a cat when you are born a dog.......
@@timmorris9952 that's comparing apples to oranges.
Cats and dogs are not at the evolutionary smarts that humans are, they don't even have that concept of male amd female.
All they go off is natural instinct while we as humans have much for than just instinct to go off of.
@ICantTakeThisBs they are smart they know about male and female gender and also about other animals
@@TheHamsterLord You are missing the point lol. His point is that identifying as something you are not does not make you that thing.
Hey Jessie, was wondering if you’ve seen Naomi Wu’s video about her origin, I think you’d find it interesting, not just because she discusses her experiences growing up in China as a cis woman being raised and socialized male, but she also gets into gender identity and expression in china and thailand, which is both really interesting and not something we hear very much about. I dunno that it would be super useful for content or anything, but I do think it’s worth watching just for like, personal edification. wishing you the best
wait she was socialized as a male? i have to see this. where is the video?
ua-cam.com/video/Z9vW_MpXTfs/v-deo.html
Is it the SexyCyborg channel? That’s the only one that popped up and I couldn’t find the video
@@lindensalter6713 yes
@@lettersnstuff what’s the video called tho if you remember?
I'm surprised you got through this documentary. I suspected that this documentary is going to be nothing by bad faith arguments based on what work Walsh has done. It sounds like my suspicions are right.
Thanks for the video
yeah it was lol
I'm playing this video waiting for an argument to be made, or any point at all to be laid out. So far it's nothing but trash talking, overly long clips from TV shows, and failed attempts to be funny. Nothing of substance here.
I mean, he had to literally trick people into being in it, so we shouldn't expect intellectual honesty
Bad faith arguments is literally how this video starts. Pot meets kettle?
@@chetsavage9041 It's not Jessie's fault that you have a short attention span.
"If we are not able to define it then..." Then absolutely nothing happens
And _Matt himself_ can't even provide a stable definition 🤣 How is this on us, the people who argue that womanhood is not an absolute?
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos he provides an answer in the ending of hte movie
@@transsexual_computer_faery Let us examine that. Can you tell what that answer is?
Yep, that's the nub of it. The *only* reason they want to define it is that their simplistic and specious (to simple folk) way of doing so lets them discriminate against transwomen, which is the object of the exercise. Exactly why they're transphobic in this way is an interesting if depressing question.
@@abelabel3664 his wife says "adult human female"
What I learned at school is that sex and gender are separate but connected. Your biological sex is based on your genes. Your genes are made up of chromosomes. These chromosomes influence both your sex and your hormones but the enviroment also affects your hormones. Your hormones impact your gender expression. How much you have of one hormone can lead to increased or decreased levels of a particular characteristic. For a lot of people this means that your gender expression matches your sex. But not always. A lot of times the release and the amount of a particular hormone can vary from person to person. This may be genetic but it may also be environmental. Or an interaction of both. According to epigenetics certain gene patterns may be turned on and off. Influenced by your enviroment. I know I'm simplifying it really bad rn but I don't want to sit around using a load of jargon no one will understand. This means an individual may have a different gender expression to their biological sex. When considering intersex individuals you see that they may be presented one way physically but their hormones may be adapted for a different body. Furthermore there's people who have completely different sex chromosomes meaning they are presented and behave completely differently. In other words what is a woman kinda just depends on a lot of things. Your genes affect your gender expression but there's a lot more both biologically and environmentally that goes into it. Overall its simple a woman is a person who has the gender expression of a woman. If they are asking what is a woman as in the construct of the woman. The woman is based upon the stereotypes learned from childhood, observation of the treatment of Afab people, hormones
I'm gonna come back to this once I have more knowledge on the topic and change anything that isn't accurate
Also this is almost solely based on a biological perspective. Partly cause its the only part I remember of the gender topic without having revise it. And partly cause I'm kinda salty that we are so heavily emotionally influenced by our hormones and it kinda stuck in my head.
Also I feel terrible rn why do I have to feel so intensely horrible. Do you think changing my diet would help?
@@Draco19970125 die.
@@feli4081 depends on the issue! if you're feeling light headed maybe more water or a diet change, same if you're frequently nauseous. if it's chronic or muscle pain you're probably exerting something wrong and a visit to a medical professional wouldn't hurt. if it mostly just seems to be a mental thing, get more rest and take it slow for a while. get well soon!
The "if you got a dick"-argument is so hilarious to me, because there is absolutely no strata of society (least of all conservative environments) where it is acceptable to go around investigating people's genetalia before you decide how to greet them. So even people who believe that gender is purely biological, still rely on the cultural signifiers when gendering people
To be fair most men would not be able to pass as a woman if it weren't for surgery and hormonal treatment. It's just that we live in an age now where biology can be "cheated" so to speak. People can modify their bodies in more ways as technology progresses and now we've reached a point where people can change genders and do so convincingly. Is it wrong? That's subjective I guess but I don'tthink it is. Is getting braces to fix naturally crooked teeth wrong? Should crooked teeth people embrace how they were naturally born? People should change themselves however they want. If a man wants to change his body to that of a woman then why should I care?
Then I guess the gender spectrum is purely dependent on how skilled the plastic surgeon and make up artists are as well as the amount of money they can spend to pass as the gender of their choosing. Kinda like passing the "Turing Test" but for the opposite gender, otherwise people are just gonna call it as it is or just look really confused.
@@Liry1 Cisgender women have body hair, can grow beards even. Are you going to call them sir?
@@translivesmatter9063 Considering this isn't actually about anti trans people being against the idea of trans people existing, rather it's about them wanting men to look like "men" and women to look like "women" based on European standards? Yes, they totally would.
@@UndergroundRap4eva chromosomes (?)
What is a woman? A question that every trans woman asks herself.
What is a man? A question every trans man asks himself.
Yeah, that's kind of how we figure out what we are. (Also it's more common than people think that CIS people also ask themselves that, just not in a verbal and clearly defined way-- a cis woman who feels she "isn't feminine enough" is encountering "what IS a woman" and a cis man who feels bad about not meeting the accepted social definition of "manhood" is encountering "what IS a man".)
@@neoqwerty the second part is also true, I just didn't feel like mentioning it. Cis myself, but it just seemed obvious to that asking that question until arriving at a satisfactory answer would be a basic experience for trans people. That being said, I should remember that my experiences teach me that there is no such thing as obvious.
i cannot believe that somebody would talk to a SOCIOLOGIST and be absolutely bewildered that the answer would be a little more complex than just "womyn has vgabia" LOL
Right? I’m a Human Services Professional, and so I’m extremely well versed in Sociology and Psychology, I’ve had arguments with people like Matt; and they always end up sputtering and replying with the whole “facts don’t care about feelings” argument. Like ????? Humans ARE their feelings, for fucks sake!!!
No reasonable person takes sociologists seriously anymore. They're political activists hiding behind scientific objectivity. And besides, it's social science. Social science is fuzzy, soft science anyway. Very difficult even to apply the scientific method in the same ways natural/physical sciences.
Facts are more inportant than feelings better?
@@koekjebom52 no :)
no, I have to take Matt's side on this one. He's a cis guy. He clearly knows better than any of us /s
Way back in high school one of our media groups produced a ~5 minute video of students misanswering 1st grade questions cut from over 3hrs of footage. This was just meant to be a funny film highlighting the bias in editing. It however was picked up by the national media and went viral denigrading the state of US public education while completely ignoring the producer's point. You can tell any narrative/ make anything look how you want through editing.
Jessie, I love that you started this conversation with a discussion of how Walsh uses the magic of movie making and storytelling to manipulate his audience. Great video, can't wait to see the next installment in this conversation!!!
Wait, isnt this the magic of "movie making and story telling to manipulate the audience"?
I find it hilarious af to read the comments here
@@wetstinkysocks2950 I'm sure we can trust the opinion of someone named wet stinky socks 2. You seem like the pinnacle of reliability and truth.
@@awkwardukulele6077 oh?
@@katarzynarak9188 lmao, true
@@ShacuLOL Obviously. Jessie even makes the point by showing how she could make a dishonest edit of the conversations at the beginning by cutting them a certain way... that is literally the point of this comment. That however, would be the only part of the video that corresponds 1-to-1 with Walsh's documentary interviews, because the bulk of the video Jessie made is not based on interview editing tricks, they are her own breakdown/review.
The piece about them being deceptive when acquiring interviews is particularly nefarious when considering the audience being primarily transphobes. I cannot fathom the amount of harassment that could be funneled onto ill prepared, unsuspecting trans people that accepted the invitation.
That’s a big generalization to just assume there all phobic. It’s regressive simple minded thinking.
@@davidpitts5851 Except I didn't say that, I said the audience for the documentary is *primarily* transphobes. I never said all his followers are transphobes. It is not regressive thinking to recognize that this documentary was produced for a transphobic audience, it's media literacy.
I agree I’ve been on many dates with trans woman and am definitely not transphobic. I have some conservative views and some liberal views. More leaning to conservative. But Elmo here can’t wrap her head around people like me
@@Liry1 Tell us how the moon is made of Norweigen cheese and calling anyone who understands the Earth isn't flat "globe heads" while your at it.
Because no one is buying your blatent, dishonest gas lighting lies.
So, after watching your whole first part of the review, I have to thank you for putting the focus on how Matt Walsh edits the interviews and how he goes into the documentary with an opinion already set and using the question as a red herring or a strawman argument for his sincerety (sorry, if that is the wrong word, English is not my first language). It helps me argue in my own friend group, where I sadly found some very right wing opinions due to the presentation of trans people on the internet (take the screaming, blue haired lady as an example) and some bad experiences they had. With that they kinda started to focus on a "balanced" way to get their information formed, which includes right wing people and their arguments "If they are a woman, why should they still get access from the urologist." "Prostata cancer still exists." Thanks to you, I think I am able to formulate my arguments better and... to be honest, I do not feel alone and as frustrated.
Again, thank you. I cannot imagine how frustrated you must have felt watching that documentary. Even the clips I've seen kinda brought on a feeling of helpless anger due to his behaviour.
P.S.: The fake beard looks incredibly fluffy and better than any real beard shown in the video. I wanna squish it.
I cant get over how hilarious it is seeing matt constantly ask “what is a woman?? I-i just need to know” like he genuinely has never seen a woman in his life and gets no bitches 🤣🤣🤣 (big fan of your channel btw and i love your videos!!! You are an absolute queen and always will be💜)
he has a wife
@@transsexual_computer_faery And yet he doesn't even know how she works. Reminds me or Aristotle who said women had less teeth than men when he could just have asked his wife to count her teeth to know how many teeth a woman has.
@@neoqwerty lmao
@@neoqwerty answer the question 🤣
@@neoqwerty what is a woman seriously even after watching this video I didn't even find an answer all I got was "conservatives ignore the answer" and yet I didn't get anything from people like you
i continue to be astonished by how many of the definitions of women's behaviour apply to my trans friends more than me.
i continue to be amazed by how many of the attempted medical definitions do not apply to me (Cis woman, voluntarily sterilised).
i continue to be horrified by the way that my value as a person is defined by how useful i could be as a sexual partner.
-taQ'pu eQ
The only person equating your value with your reproductive abilities is YOU !!!
Every cell in your body carries your DNA
Every cell in your body carries the information that you are a Woman
@@nagnag01 except her brain cells obviously ...
@@lionelconti6450 no
And yet if we looked blindly at yours and their DNA, we'd be able to differentiate which one was actually a woman.
Funny how that science works....
old man- denies existence of trans people & antagonizes trans people
old man- i have no issue with trans people
ummmmmm
old man- does not deny existence of trans people, just says that they are doing something that doesn't make sense.
old man- I have no issue with trans people, I just don't see the sense in what they're doing, and don't agree with giving experimental drugs to kids just because they feel a certain way.
Bro you clearly don't understand so let me give you an example.
Let's say a dude comes up to you and tells you that squares are circles, obviously you would be shocked and you would probably try to explain to him that they are not, and in the process you would probably get a bit frustrated trying to explain such a basic idea to him. Now obviously this person is entitled to his opinion and no one is arguing that, the issue is when you start expecting people to respect you for your illogical beliefs and demonising them for disagreeing with you. This is the same with Matt, he doesn't have an issue with trans people existing, he has an issue with society telling these people they can be whatever they want which is a biological falsehood.
@@cash4ash349 gender is not biological though, sex is biological. Trans people are not denying biology, they’re just transitioning to the gender that makes them feel the safest in their skin. You wrote a whole paragraph about how Matt Walsh isn’t transphobic, and yet you somehow didn’t do a lick of research before typing out your essay. Matt Walsh is transphobic, and there’s no way around it.
@@southernstargazer2006 Well the thing is, me and Matt don't believe that gender actually exists for two reasons
1. Gender and sex were literally the same thing not even that long ago
2. No one can actually define what gender or being a woman is
@@cash4ash349 1. Gender and sex were never the same things. Many people would confuse them as the same things, but they never were. That’s why you hear people say gender roles, instead of sex roles. Gender has always referred to the social roles the 2 sexes were put into, and sex has always referred to the biological aspect of the 2 sexes.
2. A woman is a person with the qualities traditionally associated with females, and that’s not even my words, that’s from google. Matt Walsh does not ask “what is a woman” in good faith, and instead he tries to make trans people look stupid to prove his redundant point that trans people are not valid.