Old IT guy here.... Rule of thumb... Never update on Release day. Always wait for .1 or .2 release before updating. The .0 is the mess, .1 are the panic fixes and .2 is usually the actual release that should have happened.
well its a moot point now since ubuntu doesnt even allow existing installs to upgrade to the latest version until the .1 comes out. You can test that right now if you have U22, you wont be able to upgrade to U24 till August or something
No data is lost in Ubuntu with the OOPS something went wrong error! That error is easy to fix and get up and running. Ubuntu CAN be configured so no sensitive data is exposed. The issues in Ubuntu ARE ALL EASY FIXES! If your in an IT field and your afraid to fix a little issue then you shouldn't be in IT. The Rule of thumb is for the lazy IT person. If it ain't broken Break it and break it good.That's how you learn to fix it!! That's my German rule of thumb.
@@Malte-Micha Ubuntu is not only used by IT professionals sir, it is also used by common end users like us who don’t know anything about technical things! for us it looks very unprofessional if even a single error comes in ubuntu or linux, because of these errors many users tend to run away from Linux. You cannot say this to new users that “if you can’t fix it, you shouldn’t use Linux”.
Small criticism apart, I've been noticing how GREAT things are right now. Ubuntu is great right now. Fedora is amazing. Mint is better than ever. Arch is fantastic. Debian is insane good. And it's not just distros: KDE is on a peak. GNOME is golden. Cinnamon is getting better and better on each release. Everything is really, REALLY looking up in the Linux world. Everything.
The whole 'we can't update apps because the app center is open and locked' bug has been around for years now. It's why I run all my updates from the terminal first, reboot if necessary, then open app center and check for anything missed. It's so stupid.
It's much better in 24.04 because the new App Center is only running when you actually have it open, unlike Gnome Software which is always running in the background. So the new App Center will upgrade just fine when snapd checks for updates every 6 hours.
There's that and I've also had an issue with firefox snap not being able to update on every config I've tried. As you said, right after install, i do the norm apt upd && apt upg then I do a snap refresh in terminal before even considering anything else. This seem to prevent the issue, and as @that_leaflet mentioned, once that initial refresh and update is done, everything runs just fine. Turned out to be beneficial to me in ways, being relatively new to Linux. A shitton of trial and error, and a mentally unhealthy desire to figure it out myself made a lot of the information I've absorbed over the past year or so really stick.
@voodooyam Yes, that functionality hasn’t been added yet. You can install third party devs through the command line (either through PPA or by apt installing from a local deb) or by installing an app that installs debs for you.
From the perception of the great majority of Ubuntu users the release cycle is every two years, not every six months. Even though I rarely use the intermediate releases myself I’m very happy they exist - it gives plenty of opportunity for testing new features, and must be very important for developers in particular.
same. also the idea of rushing for releases doesn't make sense. why would they rush? they can release it in the next cycle. it would apply more towards releasing every 2 years than every 6 months. Every 6 months takes the pressure off and having an LTS release version completely takes the pressure off. It also helps to push Ubuntu to improve and develop further, otherwise I can easily see them not doing much for 3/4s of that 2 year and eventually questioning why they have resources dedicated to it anyway. I mean, from my perspective, they have barely done anything in the last 4 years anyway. Actually I think for a lot longer than that. I also don't see them doing much for the next 2 years. They don't have an interest in it and their business model doesn't depend on changes done to ubuntu but rather changes not done to ubuntu. Or the changes done that don't apply to non-enterprise customers being completed while all others ignored pretty much.
8:28 this lock process issue has been around for years now. I stopped using Ubuntu the moment I discovered this issue. I should not have to go to terminal to refresh snap-store everytime I want to update my system in 2024. This is just not acceptable. So thank you for everything you did for me Ubuntu(Ubuntu brought Linux into my life), but I am moving on.
The scaling problem is due to gnome, not ubuntu. Actually it is for the x11 session, Ubuntu starts the installer in an X11 session, we all know that x11 and fractional scaling are enemies.
thanks for that additional information. its really useful. but that still makes it an ubuntu problem. Ubuntu is using gnome which is fair, but they are releasing ubuntu, not gnome. If our car breaks down, we don't blame the component that broke down but the company for releasing an unreliable model. Ubuntu can use gnome for free but they have to take criticism on their behalf because I'm not using gnome, I'm using Ubuntu. I didn't install gnome, I don't know gnome. I know ubuntu and I installed it and it's broken. This is for Ubuntu, I'm not blaming you of course and the information you provided is insightful but I just wanted to add this.
I have had no problems with the Ubuntu 24.04 install. Now, I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I certainly didn't have the 4K Res issue or any of the other issues that you outlined. So far, so good.
Glad to hear it, I am going to do a fresh install on a testing laptop ... only a i3, if I like it and does what I need to do, I will get an i7 probably - more than enough for me.
I’ll have to check out what you were showing. The problem I had was with the installation. The installer crashed three times on me. The last time was after the install started. I checked system monitor and saw the processors were going pretty good so I assumed it was still going. When they flatlined, I rebooted the system. I booted it up fine into 24.04 after I had to choose which grub. It didn’t boot up to the 24.04 grub. I have a multi boot PC. I totally agree with you on the yearly schedule change. Every other year remaining LTS.
The scalling bug at 7:11 and locking up the display seems to be an issue with GNOME on X11, it happened to me on the live installer (which uses X11) but not when installed which then uses Wayland
you have a valid point about the LTS releases targeting enterprise use, but the thing is, no LTS or even regular releases are allowed to be upgraded until the .1 release is out, and by then, usually the initial big bugs are sorted. you can of course download the release for new installs or whatever, but i also do an upgrade and they've never failed.
Yes and enterprises should never be using the newest version anyway. New features brings new bugs. When it's important, you want to use mature software.
yeah same. its insane its still not fixed. every time i have to update the store itself i have to kill the process and do a sudo snap refresh from the terminal because it cant update itself from the gui.
Was looking forward to 24.04. I use acpi on my dvr and it was causing headaches in 22.04. I wanted the update to see if some of the problems would just go away. Thanks for the review.
I had no issues with my 24.04 install and had a couple of crashes on my Fedora 40 install, but I wouldn't say Fedora 40 was rushed. I think you are not giving it a fair shake. Perhaps try it on another device?
I have experienced the display resolution gnome crash too. It was quite confusing. I had to restart gnome entirely if I remember correctly. Pretty much made me pack up the distro right there. No way this is something that can be distributed publicly without the word beta next to it.
I was looking forward to this release - but fractional scaling for 4K screens is still an issue. At best , I get blurry fonts and, worst case application crashes. After using Mint / Ubunt for at least 8 years, I decided to run another distro with Plasma 6. Works great on 4K monitors.
I tried that same upgrade and it failed miserably, and no way to roll it back even though btrfs supposedly has a snapshot feature. I don't mind an "experimental" distro, ...except when it blows up in my face.
@@danfg7215 I've upgraded several machines from F39 to F40 without any trouble at all these last few days. Some of them have been upgraded all the way from F35.
The solution if you don't trust Ubuntu releases on or near release date: Don't install or attempt to use them anytime close to that date. Wait a month or two; hell, even five or six months if you're really paranoid. You could even wait until they release a 24.04.1 image with the first batch of updates and bug fixes built right into the image. With a lifespan of five years, they are in no way forcing you to update any time soon. You could even wait, what, another three years or so for support of 22.04 (which is currently at 22.04.4) to end if you really wanted to, or skip 24.04 entirely and install 26.04 in a few years. Fedora does not give you this kind of flexibility, and I can say that I have seen a release (somewhere in the mid 30s) of that distro that contained more crashes, bugs and problems in general than I've seen in any OS over the last two decades outside of ReactOS. It didn't just run poorly live on my actual hardware--it even failed within the relatively safe confines of a virtual machine, and installing it in that machine did not lead to a better system.
In fact I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu because Fedora had a myriad of very little problems that didn't seem to get any attention but were annoying beyond belief, while Ubuntu might not be the most polished distro on release, but they'll usually try to fix those little bugs that harm the end user experience. And the LTS release is perfect for this. I'd say 22.04 wasn't really great up until a full year after it was released, but it eventually got to that point and there was never any rush to upgrade, so that works for me.
I still have servers running 20.04 LTS. They'll be upgrdaed to either 22.04 or 24.04 LTS later this year, but I certainly am in no rush, and don't feel rushed. I'm not running the six month releases on servers, and I doubt anyone else is either. I do run the six month releases on my desktop, because I like having a newer GNOME and such, but that's a desktop.
08:29 - well.... That's more than reasons to not like snap at all. For some mounths now, I am using arch based distro, like Manjaro or EndevourOS, with KDE Plasma 6 and need to say that's awesome.
Great review! Most other youtubers don't even bother testing it for real. This type of bug of key functionality (here update and display scaling) is unacceptable in a LTS or entreprise release, you are right. I would be curious to see if this affects Lubuntu minimal install with no snapd...
Maybe Ubuntu could put out stable releases if they stopped imposing Snaps on us. No one would argue if they had spent that effort making Synaptic prettier. I'll probably keep my Kubuntu 23.10 around until 24.10 when they'll finally include Plasma 6. At the very least I'll wait until 24.04.1. But what I'm really waiting for is Mint LMDE with Plasma 6.
They should switch the DE to Plasma. I had been using Gnome for about 4 years because I wanted to use Wayland and Plasma was not stable with it. With Plasma 6, it's reasonably stable (occasionality the shell crashes, but that doesn't affect running apps, so it's not a big deal) and solved so many problems I had with Gnome. For beginners who are accustomed to Windows, Plasma should be more familiar than Gnome is. Since Ubuntu is sort of the beginner Linux, it should be Plasma.
I was waiting for the update notification on my wife's Framework 13 that's on 22.04. Looks like I'll wait a bit longer till they iron out the kinks (and actually send an update notification; I haven't seen one yet). I upgraded my Fedora KDE spin from 39 to 40 today and haven't run into any major bugs there. Only thing I've found till now is that if I have multiple browsers open and don't play audio for 10-20 minutes, my bluetooth headset picks the last browser that played any sound and ignores all of the others. I need to disconnect and reconnect again. For that to be the only "bug" I ran into was surprising to me, but then again, upgrades from 36 onwards have never given me any major grief.
The lack of KDE Plasma 6 on Kubuntu / Ubuntu Studio until October is a huge miss imo. That's one of the reasons I use a rolling release and why I think true point releases are dead outside of enterprise use cases, at least for the desktop environments.
I'm still waiting for Tuxedo OS to move to KDE 6. We're in 5.27. We do have a slowed down rolling release cycle. Sometime this summer we'll be moving to the new Ubuntu LTS base and KDE Plasma 6.
thankfully, i haven't experienced the issues you noted with my 24.04 installs. while i do think they should delay if they need to, i really hope they don't change the release schedule. i like the new stuff in the interim releases
As a newbie I have 24.04 and it is all going very well. If my pace keeps up I will only need Windows for my Boss effects pedals and Focusrite analog interface. Even then, there might eventually be a simple driver for the analog interface such that I could still get to the 4 analog ins and 4 analog outs. I figure with the effects pedals I can download a few tweaks now and then, but select manually. It is not that difficult. Today's goal is migrating and setting up my email. Wish me luck.
The frequent releases doesn't have so much to do with users, but is more about the developer community. It reduces the difference between releases. Gnome is a very small part of Ubuntu and there are an enormous number of packages that fits together. Most people should not be on the cutting edge, because it always has a lot of sharp corners. A lot could be improved by simply changing the way they communicate with the public, because a big part of the problem is that users expectations are wrong. In reality, the polishing begins when a new version is out. There's nothing wrong with that approach as long as users don't think otherwise.
Nice reference to Windows 98. In recent years, I have found the whole Ubuntu thing becoming more like the MS/Windows attitude to its user base, which is why I switched to Linux Mint. I just might give Fedora 40 cinnamon spin a trial.
Good review as always. I dont like to use ubuntu anymore since the introduction of snap. True. But i love ubuntu as the fundament of wonderful distros like Pop OS, Mint and Zorin! I hope these will be great again.😉 To give it credit, i tried 24.04 on many notebooks and desktops with different hardware, and all worked. Compared to fedora, the automatic ubuntu install of nvidia driver is awesome!
Just have freshly installed Ubuntu 24.04 from 22.04 and trust me it feels good but so many things are just crashing, this dude can even open appcenter I can't even open that , it became a hell of a thing for me cause I have erased the 22.04 and now I am here waiting for all the bug fixes 😢
The error is caused from broken dependencies! Also the display manager needs to be purged and or reinstalled. I had the same issue as you did, looks complicated but it is an easy fix and the system will run perfectly. If on X11 switch to Wayland that too might help!
I agree. An LTS should prioritize stability instead of deadlines. That said 24.04 improved performance a lot. Also it fixed the problem i had with my wifi disconnecting. I don't know how much of that is because of the kernel version.
the fact that they can is a problem. If the error is on Ubuntu's side, then the error is on Ubunutu's side. They gave the go-ahead when they shouldn't have. Fire Ubuntu. That's the point.
Came back from Arch and Void to Ubuntu. It's a pleasant surprise how smooth Ubuntu is now. Not using any software store, just one snap (Firmware Updater), flatpak and traditional DEBs. Can't complain at all.
Good review. Had the same problems with it when I looked at it. There is certainly an impression of it being "issue or be damned" mentality at Canonical. Like always, wait for .1
Did he really say that 22.04 was bad because some app versions didn't match the desktop version? WTF Why do you need an updated calculator for every Gnome update?
I'm currently using 22.04. After the whole thing with Red Hat and Fedora, I'm really contemplating moving my personal gear away from Canonical because I'm not convinced that they won't try to do the same thing in the future.
I would look heavily as Suse for enterprise use and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for personal use. Seriously, this was yet another LTS released before it was ready...
Debian is the obvious way to go. They are the "Tortoise" that wins the race. It's Quality, Appeal, Flexibility, Stability and Generousity. It's also got DEB, DPKG and APT.
Thanks for the review. I'm sorry about the bugs you encountered, and I hope that the bugs that you mentioned will be ironed out by the time the first point release comes out.
To be honest, my experience with the last few Ubuntu versions is exactly why I've switched to using the terminal in Mint's LMDE installer to drop vanilla Debian on my machines. I love the software suites and repo's available to Mint and Ubuntu -- but they're just not worth the pain of the environments, and they can be dropped and keyed into APT anyway, during or after an install.
This is precisely the reason why I switched to FreeBSD for (most) of my baremetal servers, if docker is not too important for a deployment I stick with FBSD because of how damn stable the thing is (for usage and updates), I recently updated from 12 to 14 with literally 0 hiccups and updating ubuntu from any old LTS to new LTS always messes up everything up for me, I really wish there was more love for drivers on FBSD land but yeah.. that ain't happening
I did had a same issues like that. Luckily, they can give this a point release just to fix the issues that is needed unlike a previous LTS (22.04) had a first point release that managed to fix the installer issues for NVIDIA users. Hopefully, they'll might fix the 4K or 8K issues about fractional scaled set to 200% by default like my iMac (2017 21.5 inch), if I tried that version on my iMac, small loading screen at second then upscaled it to 200% automatically to be a default. Yes, even I tried back in 23.04 (Lunar Lobster), same thing happen. However, my iMac's speaker won't work with Ubuntu but macOS, I'm not saying I'm switching back to macOS because it's trusted, I know apple ruined the trust due to claiming this "8GB ram is a same thing as 16GB ram (misleading claim)" Time keeps flying just to waste their time, very delightful to say is not their fault, but it's a timer's fault.
Interesting video and I have subscribed. Nice to see someone that actually knows Linux and what he is talking about! 😂😂 I am going to test 24.0.4 soon, but seeing this video... is it worth instead installing a previous version ... for now?
A couple more problems: Another You-Tuber, who was evaluating 24.04, said that he was disturbed that his install took over 30 minutes to complete. When I tried to install (NOTE the word TRIED), I gave up on the install after 90 minutes. I continued trying 4 more times and in each case aborted the effort after 90 minutes. I will try downloading a new .iso before trying again. Yeah, methinks this particular version is still buggy.
Given the xz backdoor led to one less week of testing, I'm not surprised. Then again, this and the last two LTS releases haven't been very stable at release (20.04 wasn't very good and 22.04 was a mismatch of GNOME and GTK apps).
@@cameronbosch1213 I never loaded 22.04, so can't comment on that; but, I had NO problem installing 20.04 (or 18.04, or 14.04, or 12.04) -- just 24.04. Oh, I DID install Unity 22.04 and had no problem with that.
Using gnome-tweaks to change the cursor and I get that Oh No whitescreen of death. I log out, reboot and whatever I do I get that whitescreen and have to reinstall Ubuntu
I hate gnome. It is hard to get a work flow going. It's just not intuitive. Xfce might seem primitive, but it just works. My 90 y. o. Mother used Xfce for almost a decade.
You’re doing a great thing for us sir, I suggest if you make a video of installing a packet tracer on this version I’ve been trying with old version procedures but fails successfully 😢
I agree with the release cycle point. Most people that want a 6 month release cycle probably don't care about Ubuntu's enterprise grade stability and so have shifted to Fedora anyways. Ubuntu can definitely get away with only one interim release between two LTS releases. So a 24.04 LTS, then 25.04, then 26.04 LTS.
LTS needs more time to work properly with decent quality testing for enterprise environments. Agree fully - I won't be touching Ubuntu - even virtualised until 24.04.1 or even 24.04.2 - relying on this type of situation for production workstation operating systems is a crap show.
One thing I want to know, why did the devs remove compact mode for folders for the default program? I can't fathom why having less view of my files is better. I have to install Cinnamon.
Here is my review: Ubuntu 24.04 on Dell Vostro 5481. I have tried to update through uodate manager but it nuked my system. After that I made a fresh install and everything went fine. I have only one problem, that is screen turn off/on for random amount of time from few ms to 1 second maybe because it is NVIDIA drivers on X11.
What i love about Ubuntu is that if, god forbid your device gets corrupted or damaged (at least in my case) you can install Ubuntu via OEM which isnt something thats available for most distros, and it can extend the life of some devices!
There is positive in this release. But somehow the managed to break things that worked fine in beta version. And nvidia driver have new troubles like on dual screen setup detects 3 monitors. Checked on GT710 470 driver and GTX970 535 driver. It's real shame that I need to update to this. I agree that Canonical need to drop 6 month release schedule. Releasing LTS every 2 years is fine, but for interim it's okay to have one 6 months before next LTS release. Everything in-between should be beta build testing. Stability and quality over quantity.
Things the majority of open source projects do, they do never test, implement the new shinny broken feature causing regression everywhere and push everything to the user, make the user add a bug report that will never will be resolved in a list of the +1000 reports. Gnome it's a great example of how get the users mad.
I have had apps and gnome extensions crash that I haven't had with other Linux distro or even with past Ubuntu.. Each crash log is referring to having issues with /opt.
To prioritize release dates over quality is the same bs we have in the games area for a while now. Makes me rethink about using Ubuntu on the long term.
I Completely Bricked my System 10 mins into Ubuntu 24.04, not really a big complain, I Just changed my cursor on the tweaks GUI, I changed it to whiteglass, The Entire system froze, rebooted, couldn't log in, it boots, but does not let me login, alt+f2 doesn't work, everything just goes black, Reinstalled Ubuntu 24.04 from scratch, did the same, selected the whiteglass cursor on the tweaks GUI, same thing happened, reinstalled the OS for the 3rd time, did not touch the cursor settings on Tweaks, all good. All in all, no complains
If you don't know why it has horrible scaling, their installer is still using old deprecated xorg x11 session. I hate xorg x11. It never works correctly. I am using fedora KDE and wayland.
I don't get why Ubuntu uses Xorg for the installer when you actually use Wayland after the install. That opens the opportunity for Xorg in the installer to work well, but Wayland to not work well once you boot (Nvidia). Or Xorg in the installer may not work well (especially with mixed refresh rate monitors), but then everything will be fine after install.
@@that_leaflet you can still choose to use Xorg in the login screen in that case, and I'm sure there is a valid reason they use Xorg for their installer. After all it's a battle-tested piece of software, but I'm in your boat: I hate Xorg (since Xfree86 :P)
Ouch, that's bad even by Ubuntu's 1st-day release standards (I've used Ubuntu for so many years), but also interesting this is the 1st review where something like this happened. They absolutely should do a yearly release than a bi-yearly, but it's too much to ask.
At 8:08 lol, I have a same problem about update snap store. The only way to fix that is either "sudo snap refresh snap-store" or "sudo snap refresh" if I did either way, it updates snap store just fine. ============================================================================================ At 8:43 Nope lol, gnome software has a same problem, again if did a workaround on terminal, again it updates just fine.
I was going to say this. The first number is the last two digits of the year (2006), and the number of the month (04 being delayed to 06, from April to June). Thus, it should be trivial to see how often Canonical delayed a release.
I upgraded to 24 lts right on the day of launch and boom, it blew up, had to use another laptop to boot up my pendrive and very shamelessly i installed 24 lts again, and everything seems to work fine and now my screen flickers and jitters. And over-all it is a good and stable distro but yes, shifting back to 22 and will upgrade maybe on 24.04.1 release
Congratulations on your Udemy course launch.🎉🌷 I wish i have it during my college year. I wasn't able to get deep into Linux until i found your book, a year after i got out college.
I've noticed still not consistent in the overall look. Rounded corners still not implemented everywhere. Settings and terminal for instance. I don't like it. I hate rounded corners anyway (my screen doesn't have them), but if rounded corners, implement them everywhere. I wouldn't upgrade until the point release because of all the bugs that are bound to be there. I'm confused because it isn't updated every 6 months. That's the interim release, not the LTS🤔
But Jay, they had to release it. I'm thinking, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, then comes 24.04. Come rain, come watermelon they had to release 24.04 in April, 2 years after 22.04 came out. LTS release cycle is the law...
I installed yesterday. Works good. Only issue i have is with a displaylink usb monitor. (I had trouble with it when i did 23.10 and cant remember what i did to fix it.)
It's not a requirement for most people to install the 6-monthly releases. They're only for enthusiasts or hobbists. Heck even LTS releases can be skipped if one so chooses.
You are right Ubuntu just rushed to release this 24.04 LTS version without fixing all the bugs. I am using 24.04 and I still experience frequent messages like “this app suddenly crashed” and “your system reported an error” and so on. They should have delayed the release and fix this kind of bugs. All this looks so unprofessional for a enterprise grade distro like ubuntu!!
Love your videos and watching you grow my man. Don't know what I would do without Linux. I have PVE installed and jump around on different distros. Debian will always be my favorite though. Thanks for your time doing these videos!
While modern look init. I agree with you It is too fast in rolling update, is it even LTS? My Dropbox notification icon not working. Annoying every time I click on title bar free space and it is suggesting to window tilling. 22.04.04 had a update and started lagging my gnome terminal so I hurried to make a fresh install on my working machine. Now it made a history.
As a software engineer turned manager, slowing down the release cycle will not result in fewer bugs. Slowing down the cycle will just lengthen the delay in the feedback loop. It's tempting to think that developers just need more time to work out the bugs, but that misunderstands how developers work and why bugs get shipped. A product that feels rushed is a result of poor project management and leadership leading up to the release. It's not that there wasn't enough time that went into the project before release, but that time wasn't properly allocated and managed throughout the development cycle.
As many have already stated, enterprise should always wait for .1 LTS release, the release cycle for LTS (2 years!!) is long enough, .0 LTS releases always will have issued to be ironed out, I don´t expect Canonical to go the Red Hat / IBM way, but the RH release cycle looks even more frantic. Experienced Linux admins will do a CLI install / release upgrade, LTS graphic install feels like it is starting too much look a MS noob option, the CLI is the way to go.
The youtube block blocker is preventing me to see the videos. Please let me know if you post them on other platforms like Odyssei, etc. I'll like to give it a try! Anyway, thanks for all the useful videos.
Ok but you are saying that this version is not acceptable because bugs on your specific setup, you should look at more experiences to say that, for me I installed it and it worked perfectly
Old IT guy here....
Rule of thumb...
Never update on Release day. Always wait for .1 or .2 release before updating. The .0 is the mess, .1 are the panic fixes and .2 is usually the actual release that should have happened.
Fedora 40 didn't have any issues on release. This is an Ubuntu issue
well its a moot point now since ubuntu doesnt even allow existing installs to upgrade to the latest version until the .1 comes out. You can test that right now if you have U22, you wont be able to upgrade to U24 till August or something
I agree with this conservative strategy, especially if you're using sensitive data on your computer
No data is lost in Ubuntu with the OOPS something went wrong error! That error is easy to fix and get up and running. Ubuntu CAN be configured so no sensitive data is exposed. The issues in Ubuntu ARE ALL EASY FIXES! If your in an IT field and your afraid to fix a little issue then you shouldn't be in IT.
The Rule of thumb is for the lazy IT person. If it ain't broken Break it and break it good.That's how you learn to fix it!!
That's my German rule of thumb.
@@Malte-Micha Ubuntu is not only used by IT professionals sir, it is also used by common end users like us who don’t know anything about technical things! for us it looks very unprofessional if even a single error comes in ubuntu or linux, because of these errors many users tend to run away from Linux. You cannot say this to new users that “if you can’t fix it, you shouldn’t use Linux”.
Small criticism apart, I've been noticing how GREAT things are right now.
Ubuntu is great right now. Fedora is amazing. Mint is better than ever. Arch is fantastic. Debian is insane good.
And it's not just distros: KDE is on a peak. GNOME is golden. Cinnamon is getting better and better on each release.
Everything is really, REALLY looking up in the Linux world. Everything.
I agree, only thing is missing now is the apps. I've been waiting 20 years now for a decent photoshop replacement.
@@snppls agree. i am still waiting for a good email client on linux.
Opensuse is doing good too
Pop!_OS is coming to get a great new desktop environment, too!
Agree 100%.
The whole 'we can't update apps because the app center is open and locked' bug has been around for years now. It's why I run all my updates from the terminal first, reboot if necessary, then open app center and check for anything missed. It's so stupid.
It's much better in 24.04 because the new App Center is only running when you actually have it open, unlike Gnome Software which is always running in the background. So the new App Center will upgrade just fine when snapd checks for updates every 6 hours.
There's that and I've also had an issue with firefox snap not being able to update on every config I've tried. As you said, right after install, i do the norm apt upd && apt upg then I do a snap refresh in terminal before even considering anything else. This seem to prevent the issue, and as @that_leaflet mentioned, once that initial refresh and update is done, everything runs just fine. Turned out to be beneficial to me in ways, being relatively new to Linux. A shitton of trial and error, and a mentally unhealthy desire to figure it out myself made a lot of the information I've absorbed over the past year or so really stick.
@voodooyam Yes, that functionality hasn’t been added yet. You can install third party devs through the command line (either through PPA or by apt installing from a local deb) or by installing an app that installs debs for you.
@@Mikey-Plays-Bass Same. Firefox snap was giving me so many troubles. I removed it and installed the deb.
@voodooyam Yeah, I ran into that issue as well. I had to install deb's from the command line.
From the perception of the great majority of Ubuntu users the release cycle is every two years, not every six months. Even though I rarely use the intermediate releases myself I’m very happy they exist - it gives plenty of opportunity for testing new features, and must be very important for developers in particular.
same. also the idea of rushing for releases doesn't make sense. why would they rush? they can release it in the next cycle. it would apply more towards releasing every 2 years than every 6 months. Every 6 months takes the pressure off and having an LTS release version completely takes the pressure off. It also helps to push Ubuntu to improve and develop further, otherwise I can easily see them not doing much for 3/4s of that 2 year and eventually questioning why they have resources dedicated to it anyway. I mean, from my perspective, they have barely done anything in the last 4 years anyway. Actually I think for a lot longer than that. I also don't see them doing much for the next 2 years. They don't have an interest in it and their business model doesn't depend on changes done to ubuntu but rather changes not done to ubuntu. Or the changes done that don't apply to non-enterprise customers being completed while all others ignored pretty much.
8:28 this lock process issue has been around for years now. I stopped using Ubuntu the moment I discovered this issue. I should not have to go to terminal to refresh snap-store everytime I want to update my system in 2024. This is just not acceptable. So thank you for everything you did for me Ubuntu(Ubuntu brought Linux into my life), but I am moving on.
Fedora it is! The easiest hop I did from Kubuntu while wanting new GNOME and KDE.
@@HenryT You mean Fedora is better? how is it with Cuda/Docker?
@@OptaIgin Works great for me. I like the much newer packages too.
@@HenryT I run nobara (based on Fedora) for the game platform and Steam, just wow! I prefer KDE over Gnome based on design decisions.
The scaling problem is due to gnome, not ubuntu. Actually it is for the x11 session, Ubuntu starts the installer in an X11 session, we all know that x11 and fractional scaling are enemies.
thanks for that additional information. its really useful. but that still makes it an ubuntu problem. Ubuntu is using gnome which is fair, but they are releasing ubuntu, not gnome. If our car breaks down, we don't blame the component that broke down but the company for releasing an unreliable model. Ubuntu can use gnome for free but they have to take criticism on their behalf because I'm not using gnome, I'm using Ubuntu. I didn't install gnome, I don't know gnome. I know ubuntu and I installed it and it's broken. This is for Ubuntu, I'm not blaming you of course and the information you provided is insightful but I just wanted to add this.
Ah, so GNOME breaking yet another thing. How surprising.
yeah, he should first install it and then try it out. it's a lot better in wayland
Not gonna lie, I'm glad you use real hardware for your tests. Gives a better impression than using a virtual machine.
I have had no problems with the Ubuntu 24.04 install. Now, I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I certainly didn't have the 4K Res issue or any of the other issues that you outlined. So far, so good.
Glad to hear it, I am going to do a fresh install on a testing laptop ... only a i3, if I like it and does what I need to do, I will get an i7 probably - more than enough for me.
I’ll have to check out what you were showing. The problem I had was with the installation. The installer crashed three times on me. The last time was after the install started. I checked system monitor and saw the processors were going pretty good so I assumed it was still going. When they flatlined, I rebooted the system. I booted it up fine into 24.04 after I had to choose which grub. It didn’t boot up to the 24.04 grub. I have a multi boot PC. I totally agree with you on the yearly schedule change. Every other year remaining LTS.
The scalling bug at 7:11 and locking up the display seems to be an issue with GNOME on X11, it happened to me on the live installer (which uses X11) but not when installed which then uses Wayland
you have a valid point about the LTS releases targeting enterprise use, but the thing is, no LTS or even regular releases are allowed to be upgraded until the .1 release is out, and by then, usually the initial big bugs are sorted. you can of course download the release for new installs or whatever, but i also do an upgrade and they've never failed.
Yes and enterprises should never be using the newest version anyway. New features brings new bugs. When it's important, you want to use mature software.
I'm a huge Ubuntu fan, but that Snap store update issue? I think the first time I ran into that was 20.04. It absolutely should've been fixed by now.
yeah same. its insane its still not fixed. every time i have to update the store itself i have to kill the process and do a sudo snap refresh from the terminal because it cant update itself from the gui.
Was looking forward to 24.04. I use acpi on my dvr and it was causing headaches in 22.04. I wanted the update to see if some of the problems would just go away. Thanks for the review.
I had no issues with my 24.04 install and had a couple of crashes on my Fedora 40 install, but I wouldn't say Fedora 40 was rushed. I think you are not giving it a fair shake. Perhaps try it on another device?
Yeah, if anything, possibly due to the xz attempted attack, Ubuntu 24.04 was more rushed.
@@cameronbosch1213 Sure I guess. But he had similar issues with the installer on previous Ubuntu installs.
I have experienced the display resolution gnome crash too. It was quite confusing. I had to restart gnome entirely if I remember correctly. Pretty much made me pack up the distro right there. No way this is something that can be distributed publicly without the word beta next to it.
I was looking forward to this release - but fractional scaling for 4K screens is still an issue. At best , I get blurry fonts and, worst case application crashes. After using Mint / Ubunt for at least 8 years, I decided to run another distro with Plasma 6. Works great on 4K monitors.
23.10 has been very good for me... I'll stick with it for awhile.
I just upgrade my desktop from f39 to f40 and it went like a breeze. But installing Fedora from scratch is just not as neat as Ubuntu is now.
I tried that same upgrade and it failed miserably, and no way to roll it back even though btrfs supposedly has a snapshot feature. I don't mind an "experimental" distro, ...except when it blows up in my face.
Like a *Breeze* you say? I'll see myself out...
@@danfg7215 I've upgraded several machines from F39 to F40 without any trouble at all these last few days. Some of them have been upgraded all the way from F35.
@@danfg7215 Having now upgraded several computers from F39 to F40 without any problems, i think you must have somehow manually broken your system.
The solution if you don't trust Ubuntu releases on or near release date: Don't install or attempt to use them anytime close to that date. Wait a month or two; hell, even five or six months if you're really paranoid. You could even wait until they release a 24.04.1 image with the first batch of updates and bug fixes built right into the image.
With a lifespan of five years, they are in no way forcing you to update any time soon. You could even wait, what, another three years or so for support of 22.04 (which is currently at 22.04.4) to end if you really wanted to, or skip 24.04 entirely and install 26.04 in a few years.
Fedora does not give you this kind of flexibility, and I can say that I have seen a release (somewhere in the mid 30s) of that distro that contained more crashes, bugs and problems in general than I've seen in any OS over the last two decades outside of ReactOS. It didn't just run poorly live on my actual hardware--it even failed within the relatively safe confines of a virtual machine, and installing it in that machine did not lead to a better system.
You nailed it bro 👍🏼 great, spot on comment. It should be pinned 😁👍🏼
In fact I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu because Fedora had a myriad of very little problems that didn't seem to get any attention but were annoying beyond belief, while Ubuntu might not be the most polished distro on release, but they'll usually try to fix those little bugs that harm the end user experience. And the LTS release is perfect for this. I'd say 22.04 wasn't really great up until a full year after it was released, but it eventually got to that point and there was never any rush to upgrade, so that works for me.
22.04 LTS is still the best LTS release for me personally
I still have servers running 20.04 LTS. They'll be upgrdaed to either 22.04 or 24.04 LTS later this year, but I certainly am in no rush, and don't feel rushed. I'm not running the six month releases on servers, and I doubt anyone else is either.
I do run the six month releases on my desktop, because I like having a newer GNOME and such, but that's a desktop.
08:29 - well.... That's more than reasons to not like snap at all. For some mounths now, I am using arch based distro, like Manjaro or EndevourOS, with KDE Plasma 6 and need to say that's awesome.
Great review! Most other youtubers don't even bother testing it for real. This type of bug of key functionality (here update and display scaling) is unacceptable in a LTS or entreprise release, you are right. I would be curious to see if this affects Lubuntu minimal install with no snapd...
Maybe Ubuntu could put out stable releases if they stopped imposing Snaps on us. No one would argue if they had spent that effort making Synaptic prettier.
I'll probably keep my Kubuntu 23.10 around until 24.10 when they'll finally include Plasma 6. At the very least I'll wait until 24.04.1. But what I'm really waiting for is Mint LMDE with Plasma 6.
Just use Tuxedo OS. It's Kubuntu but without Snaps and new KDE Plasma versions before Kubuntu.
They should switch the DE to Plasma. I had been using Gnome for about 4 years because I wanted to use Wayland and Plasma was not stable with it. With Plasma 6, it's reasonably stable (occasionality the shell crashes, but that doesn't affect running apps, so it's not a big deal) and solved so many problems I had with Gnome. For beginners who are accustomed to Windows, Plasma should be more familiar than Gnome is. Since Ubuntu is sort of the beginner Linux, it should be Plasma.
I was waiting for the update notification on my wife's Framework 13 that's on 22.04. Looks like I'll wait a bit longer till they iron out the kinks (and actually send an update notification; I haven't seen one yet). I upgraded my Fedora KDE spin from 39 to 40 today and haven't run into any major bugs there. Only thing I've found till now is that if I have multiple browsers open and don't play audio for 10-20 minutes, my bluetooth headset picks the last browser that played any sound and ignores all of the others. I need to disconnect and reconnect again. For that to be the only "bug" I ran into was surprising to me, but then again, upgrades from 36 onwards have never given me any major grief.
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The lack of KDE Plasma 6 on Kubuntu / Ubuntu Studio until October is a huge miss imo. That's one of the reasons I use a rolling release and why I think true point releases are dead outside of enterprise use cases, at least for the desktop environments.
Fedora model is great.
Those are side-distro with not a lot of work force behind it, so it is normal it take another 6 months to adjust it.
I'm still waiting for Tuxedo OS to move to KDE 6. We're in 5.27. We do have a slowed down rolling release cycle. Sometime this summer we'll be moving to the new Ubuntu LTS base and KDE Plasma 6.
Kubuntu with KDE has more quality than Ubuntu and Gnome.
u can think of it like this, when KDE Plasma 6 does release on those flavors, it will be much better.
thankfully, i haven't experienced the issues you noted with my 24.04 installs. while i do think they should delay if they need to, i really hope they don't change the release schedule. i like the new stuff in the interim releases
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I mounted a Kubernetes cluster on top of Ubuntu 24.04 and it's doing amazing & very fast. Good job!
As a newbie I have 24.04 and it is all going very well. If my pace keeps up I will only need Windows for my Boss effects pedals and Focusrite analog interface. Even then, there might eventually be a simple driver for the analog interface such that I could still get to the 4 analog ins and 4 analog outs. I figure with the effects pedals I can download a few tweaks now and then, but select manually. It is not that difficult. Today's goal is migrating and setting up my email. Wish me luck.
I didn’t face any of the issues you were describing- all smooth and ready to go. I wonder what’s under the hood that made it so complicated for you.
The frequent releases doesn't have so much to do with users, but is more about the developer community. It reduces the difference between releases. Gnome is a very small part of Ubuntu and there are an enormous number of packages that fits together. Most people should not be on the cutting edge, because it always has a lot of sharp corners. A lot could be improved by simply changing the way they communicate with the public, because a big part of the problem is that users expectations are wrong. In reality, the polishing begins when a new version is out. There's nothing wrong with that approach as long as users don't think otherwise.
Nice reference to Windows 98. In recent years, I have found the whole Ubuntu thing becoming more like the MS/Windows attitude to its user base, which is why I switched to Linux Mint. I just might give Fedora 40 cinnamon spin a trial.
Good review as always. I dont like to use ubuntu anymore since the introduction of snap. True. But i love ubuntu as the fundament of wonderful distros like Pop OS, Mint and Zorin! I hope these will be great again.😉 To give it credit, i tried 24.04 on many notebooks and desktops with different hardware, and all worked. Compared to fedora, the automatic ubuntu install of nvidia driver is awesome!
Just have freshly installed Ubuntu 24.04 from 22.04 and trust me it feels good but so many things are just crashing, this dude can even open appcenter I can't even open that , it became a hell of a thing for me cause I have erased the 22.04 and now I am here waiting for all the bug fixes 😢
To get around the Snap error for the packages installer, is update the Snap store in CLI snap refresh I think it was, once it updates it's fine..
The error is caused from broken dependencies! Also the display manager needs to be purged and or reinstalled. I had the same issue as you did, looks complicated but it is an easy fix and the system will run perfectly. If on X11 switch to Wayland that too might help!
Fractional scaling on Gnome is terrible. It makes it unusable for 1080p displays IMO. KDE Plasma works much better.
I agree. An LTS should prioritize stability instead of deadlines. That said 24.04 improved performance a lot. Also it fixed the problem i had with my wifi disconnecting. I don't know how much of that is because of the kernel version.
If you view 24.04 as the replacement for 22.04, then there have been 2 years of feature upgrades too.
You keep using the word “enterprise” but which enterprise customer is going to upgrade to an OS on day 1 of a release.
the fact that they can is a problem. If the error is on Ubuntu's side, then the error is on Ubunutu's side. They gave the go-ahead when they shouldn't have. Fire Ubuntu. That's the point.
I have upgraded from 23.10 to 24.04. No problems, it works fine. I had the snapd update problem with 22.04.
Came back from Arch and Void to Ubuntu. It's a pleasant surprise how smooth Ubuntu is now. Not using any software store, just one snap (Firmware Updater), flatpak and traditional DEBs. Can't complain at all.
Good review. Had the same problems with it when I looked at it. There is certainly an impression of it being "issue or be damned" mentality at Canonical. Like always, wait for .1
Did he really say that 22.04 was bad because some app versions didn't match the desktop version? WTF Why do you need an updated calculator for every Gnome update?
I had app center lock on me with 23.10 so I just used terminal to update snap but I wondered if was just me and how other people would react to that
I'm currently using 22.04. After the whole thing with Red Hat and Fedora, I'm really contemplating moving my personal gear away from Canonical because I'm not convinced that they won't try to do the same thing in the future.
I would look heavily as Suse for enterprise use and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for personal use. Seriously, this was yet another LTS released before it was ready...
I honestly don't think cannoical will get bought out by a large company and start closing off their source code.
@@eps-nx8zg Yeah, that's because Red Hat was bought out by IBM, and of course they need to make their money back, in the most unethical way possible.
@@eps-nx8zg I do doubt that Canonical would get bought out at this point in time.
Debian is the obvious way to go. They are the "Tortoise" that wins the race. It's Quality, Appeal, Flexibility, Stability and Generousity. It's also got DEB, DPKG and APT.
Thanks for the review. I'm sorry about the bugs you encountered, and I hope that the bugs that you mentioned will be ironed out by the time the first point release comes out.
To be honest, my experience with the last few Ubuntu versions is exactly why I've switched to using the terminal in Mint's LMDE installer to drop vanilla Debian on my machines.
I love the software suites and repo's available to Mint and Ubuntu -- but they're just not worth the pain of the environments, and they can be dropped and keyed into APT anyway, during or after an install.
This is precisely the reason why I switched to FreeBSD for (most) of my baremetal servers, if docker is not too important for a deployment I stick with FBSD because of how damn stable the thing is (for usage and updates), I recently updated from 12 to 14 with literally 0 hiccups and updating ubuntu from any old LTS to new LTS always messes up everything up for me, I really wish there was more love for drivers on FBSD land but yeah.. that ain't happening
I did had a same issues like that. Luckily, they can give this a point release just to fix the issues that is needed unlike a previous LTS (22.04) had a first point release that managed to fix the installer issues for NVIDIA users. Hopefully, they'll might fix the 4K or 8K issues about fractional scaled set to 200% by default like my iMac (2017 21.5 inch), if I tried that version on my iMac, small loading screen at second then upscaled it to 200% automatically to be a default. Yes, even I tried back in 23.04 (Lunar Lobster), same thing happen. However, my iMac's speaker won't work with Ubuntu but macOS, I'm not saying I'm switching back to macOS because it's trusted, I know apple ruined the trust due to claiming this "8GB ram is a same thing as 16GB ram (misleading claim)"
Time keeps flying just to waste their time, very delightful to say is not their fault, but it's a timer's fault.
Interesting video and I have subscribed. Nice to see someone that actually knows Linux and what he is talking about!
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I am going to test 24.0.4 soon, but seeing this video... is it worth instead installing a previous version ... for now?
The app center bug is also a thing on 22.04
In my world, there's only one Ubuntu release every two years, and it only prompted me to upgrade last week.
A couple more problems: Another You-Tuber, who was evaluating 24.04, said that he was disturbed that his install took over 30 minutes to complete. When I tried to install (NOTE the word TRIED), I gave up on the install after 90 minutes. I continued trying 4 more times and in each case aborted the effort after 90 minutes. I will try downloading a new .iso before trying again.
Yeah, methinks this particular version is still buggy.
Given the xz backdoor led to one less week of testing, I'm not surprised. Then again, this and the last two LTS releases haven't been very stable at release (20.04 wasn't very good and 22.04 was a mismatch of GNOME and GTK apps).
@@cameronbosch1213 I never loaded 22.04, so can't comment on that; but, I had NO problem installing 20.04 (or 18.04, or 14.04, or 12.04) -- just 24.04. Oh, I DID install Unity 22.04 and had no problem with that.
I installed very quickly. The only time consuming stuff I had was trying to remember what all the gnome add-ons I liked. Haha
Using gnome-tweaks to change the cursor and I get that Oh No whitescreen of death. I log out, reboot and whatever I do I get that whitescreen and have to reinstall Ubuntu
I hate gnome. It is hard to get a work flow going. It's just not intuitive.
Xfce might seem primitive, but it just works. My 90 y. o. Mother used Xfce for almost a decade.
I spent 20 years supporting Ubuntu, on server and desktop installs. I've moved upstream to Debian. Canonical is becoming increasingly shady.
You’re doing a great thing for us sir, I suggest if you make a video of installing a packet tracer on this version I’ve been trying with old version procedures but fails successfully 😢
I agree with the release cycle point. Most people that want a 6 month release cycle probably don't care about Ubuntu's enterprise grade stability and so have shifted to Fedora anyways. Ubuntu can definitely get away with only one interim release between two LTS releases. So a 24.04 LTS, then 25.04, then 26.04 LTS.
Hi jay, please create a video on how to setup a budget home lab for learning/practicing all the Linux and DevOps stuff.
10:32 I have that same graphical issue. I wonder if it’s due to nvidia.
I just tried the Fedora 40 live DVD and had the small font issue. it also froze on me. I had to do a hard shutdown.
What???? You mean fedora isn't perfect?? How dare you?!?!? 😂This guy is just a hater. Ubuntu will never be fedora and will always suck in his mind.
LTS needs more time to work properly with decent quality testing for enterprise environments. Agree fully - I won't be touching Ubuntu - even virtualised until 24.04.1 or even 24.04.2 - relying on this type of situation for production workstation operating systems is a crap show.
Hello Jay, I am looking forward for the LPI course. Would you please share when it will be a available?
Thanks.
One thing I want to know, why did the devs remove compact mode for folders for the default program? I can't fathom why having less view of my files is better. I have to install Cinnamon.
Here is my review:
Ubuntu 24.04 on Dell Vostro 5481.
I have tried to update through uodate manager but it nuked my system.
After that I made a fresh install and everything went fine.
I have only one problem, that is screen turn off/on for random amount of time from few ms to 1 second maybe because it is NVIDIA drivers on X11.
What i love about Ubuntu is that if, god forbid your device gets corrupted or damaged (at least in my case) you can install Ubuntu via OEM which isnt something thats available for most distros, and it can extend the life of some devices!
Jay: _9:05_
Community: *YES*
There is positive in this release. But somehow the managed to break things that worked fine in beta version. And nvidia driver have new troubles like on dual screen setup detects 3 monitors. Checked on GT710 470 driver and GTX970 535 driver. It's real shame that I need to update to this.
I agree that Canonical need to drop 6 month release schedule. Releasing LTS every 2 years is fine, but for interim it's okay to have one 6 months before next LTS release. Everything in-between should be beta build testing. Stability and quality over quantity.
Things the majority of open source projects do, they do never test, implement the new shinny broken feature causing regression everywhere and push everything to the user, make the user add a bug report that will never will be resolved in a list of the +1000 reports. Gnome it's a great example of how get the users mad.
Amazing & fantastic review done by the expert user!
One reason why i prefer either Fedora and Debian these days, both just work and ive personally not had any issues with either
I agree, they delayed 6.06, we would easily forgive them if they released 24.06 instead of 24.04
I have had apps and gnome extensions crash that I haven't had with other Linux distro or even with past Ubuntu.. Each crash log is referring to having issues with /opt.
To prioritize release dates over quality is the same bs we have in the games area for a while now. Makes me rethink about using Ubuntu on the long term.
I don’t consider the LTS to be released until the first point release.
To be fair, Canonical pretty much feel the same way.
I Completely Bricked my System 10 mins into Ubuntu 24.04, not really a big complain, I Just changed my cursor on the tweaks GUI, I changed it to whiteglass, The Entire system froze, rebooted, couldn't log in, it boots, but does not let me login, alt+f2 doesn't work, everything just goes black,
Reinstalled Ubuntu 24.04 from scratch, did the same, selected the whiteglass cursor on the tweaks GUI, same thing happened, reinstalled the OS for the 3rd time, did not touch the cursor settings on Tweaks, all good.
All in all, no complains
If you don't know why it has horrible scaling, their installer is still using old deprecated xorg x11 session. I hate xorg x11. It never works correctly. I am using fedora KDE and wayland.
I don't get why Ubuntu uses Xorg for the installer when you actually use Wayland after the install. That opens the opportunity for Xorg in the installer to work well, but Wayland to not work well once you boot (Nvidia). Or Xorg in the installer may not work well (especially with mixed refresh rate monitors), but then everything will be fine after install.
@@that_leaflet you can still choose to use Xorg in the login screen in that case, and I'm sure there is a valid reason they use Xorg for their installer. After all it's a battle-tested piece of software, but I'm in your boat: I hate Xorg (since Xfree86 :P)
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You can still do
sudo nano /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
'enablewayland=true'
Then ctrl+s ctrl+x
Then
sudo systemctl restart gdm.service .
Ouch, that's bad even by Ubuntu's 1st-day release standards (I've used Ubuntu for so many years), but also interesting this is the 1st review where something like this happened.
They absolutely should do a yearly release than a bi-yearly, but it's too much to ask.
At 8:08
lol, I have a same problem about update snap store. The only way to fix that is either "sudo snap refresh snap-store" or "sudo snap refresh" if I did either way, it updates snap store just fine.
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Nope lol, gnome software has a same problem, again if did a workaround on terminal, again it updates just fine.
It wouldn't even be unprecedented for Ubuntu to delay a release due to an issue. Version 6.04 was delayed to 6.06.
I was going to say this. The first number is the last two digits of the year (2006), and the number of the month (04 being delayed to 06, from April to June). Thus, it should be trivial to see how often Canonical delayed a release.
i'll wait to 24.04.1
Agree, I usually always wait for the .04.1 release. And I have used Ubuntu from the beginning of this grate OS, well today only the server version.
I upgraded to 24 lts right on the day of launch and boom, it blew up, had to use another laptop to boot up my pendrive and very shamelessly i installed 24 lts again, and everything seems to work fine and now my screen flickers and jitters. And over-all it is a good and stable distro but yes, shifting back to 22 and will upgrade maybe on 24.04.1 release
I'm sticking with 22.04 LTS... Everything works and it has the latest kernel. upgrading to 24.04 is just going to break stuff
Congratulations on your Udemy course launch.🎉🌷 I wish i have it during my college year. I wasn't able to get deep into Linux until i found your book, a year after i got out college.
Do a video on Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04
I've noticed still not consistent in the overall look. Rounded corners still not implemented everywhere. Settings and terminal for instance. I don't like it. I hate rounded corners anyway (my screen doesn't have them), but if rounded corners, implement them everywhere. I wouldn't upgrade until the point release because of all the bugs that are bound to be there. I'm confused because it isn't updated every 6 months. That's the interim release, not the LTS🤔
But Jay, they had to release it. I'm thinking, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, then comes 24.04. Come rain, come watermelon they had to release 24.04 in April, 2 years after 22.04 came out. LTS release cycle is the law...
I installed yesterday. Works good. Only issue i have is with a displaylink usb monitor. (I had trouble with it when i did 23.10 and cant remember what i did to fix it.)
It's not a requirement for most people to install the 6-monthly releases. They're only for enthusiasts or hobbists. Heck even LTS releases can be skipped if one so chooses.
You are right Ubuntu just rushed to release this 24.04 LTS version without fixing all the bugs. I am using 24.04 and I still experience frequent messages like “this app suddenly crashed” and “your system reported an error” and so on. They should have delayed the release and fix this kind of bugs. All this looks so unprofessional for a enterprise grade distro like ubuntu!!
I have tested it on multiple systems. As far as I could gather, many of the random crashes / anomalies are related to the Nvidia driver. Go figure!
Love your videos and watching you grow my man. Don't know what I would do without Linux. I have PVE installed and jump around on different distros. Debian will always be my favorite though. Thanks for your time doing these videos!
While modern look init. I agree with you It is too fast in rolling update, is it even LTS? My Dropbox notification icon not working. Annoying every time I click on title bar free space and it is suggesting to window tilling. 22.04.04 had a update and started lagging my gnome terminal so I hurried to make a fresh install on my working machine. Now it made a history.
I think that is why the point releases exist and they dont want you to straightaway upgrade to a newer LTS Version, but anyways I agree with you Jay.
Thanks, very good review!
As a software engineer turned manager, slowing down the release cycle will not result in fewer bugs. Slowing down the cycle will just lengthen the delay in the feedback loop. It's tempting to think that developers just need more time to work out the bugs, but that misunderstands how developers work and why bugs get shipped. A product that feels rushed is a result of poor project management and leadership leading up to the release. It's not that there wasn't enough time that went into the project before release, but that time wasn't properly allocated and managed throughout the development cycle.
As many have already stated, enterprise should always wait for .1 LTS release, the release cycle for LTS (2 years!!) is long enough, .0 LTS releases always will have issued to be ironed out,
I don´t expect Canonical to go the Red Hat / IBM way, but the RH release cycle looks even more frantic.
Experienced Linux admins will do a CLI install / release upgrade, LTS graphic install feels like it is starting too much look a MS noob option, the CLI is the way to go.
The youtube block blocker is preventing me to see the videos.
Please let me know if you post them on other platforms like Odyssei, etc.
I'll like to give it a try!
Anyway, thanks for all the useful videos.
Ok but you are saying that this version is not acceptable because bugs on your specific setup, you should look at more experiences to say that, for me I installed it and it worked perfectly