Breville Grinder Burr Settings and Adjustments
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2022
- *NOTE*: The newer Breville Barista Pro machines come with updated Baratza burrs. The default setting on these new burrs seems to be more suitable for espresso and most likely will not require a burr adjustment right out of the box. So don't adjust the burr until or unless you need to!!
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Thank you so much for the help with that. I’ve been trying to get my pressure back for a while now. Really love the direct and easy to follow videos as well. Thanks again
This video has been a revelation! Was so frustrated with wasting beans and not being able to achieve the correct pressure. After following this, first shot pulled was at 9bar and around 30s! Legend!
I tried every grade of grinding for a month, but your video helped me to get the perfect extract of 18 grams, 36 grams in 25 seconds from the Sage machine. Thank you🌺
Thank you so much!! I have only had my Barista Pro for a few months and I am frequently at a grind setting of 2 or 1 and still not getting the pull I wanted. I was getting disappointed in the grinder until I found this video and your channel! I can’t wait to get my range adjusted!❤
Hi Brian - can I ask you, how long does it take your grinder to gind 18g of beans on the very fine setting? Mine takes so long (around 25 seconds), I wonder if that's normal? Thanks!
@Jontiramizoo machine BaristaTouch, Beans: Brooklyn Roasting Company, Peruvian, dose 19.5 gram, machine takes about 40 sec.
But the shot tastes good.
So i think the breville grinder is crap, sometime i put 19.5 and i get 18 and sometime i put 19.5 and get 21g, i am saving for an lagom P64 now. Espresso hobby is a money black hole, cost thousands for tiny bit of improvement. Its all about the happiness we experience, so will have to bite the bullet.
Finally I get the chance to order this coffee machine and i was looking all over about it , your information is so helpful and your doing amazing job keep it going 😍👏🏻👏🏻
Yes, this was the exact question I had (and also just posted on another video of yours). Thank you for this information. Your channel is great at helping out absolute beginners, of which I am one. :)
Finally a video that gets to the point quickly and easily. Also, good video quality.
I just got this machine and your channel has been extremely helpful. I can’t thank you enough 😊
congrats on your new machine!! 😊 thank you so much for supporting my channel
This is so well done! helped me panic less when I saw my espresso running out so fast - and reset the burrs to 4 from 6. Will go for a grind setting 6 or 7 and try a few shots.
Thank you!! Hope you nail those shots at the new settings 🙌🏼
I just changed my burr setting up to 6 & my outer setting to 5. I’m still playing with my breville. Not going to lie it was really frustrating trying to get the right shot. But since I’ve been following you, I started playing with my machine more. I don’t want to give up on it just yet lol
Oof I can understand 🥺 I mourn beans that are wasted (either in the trash or via gross tasting shots) 😭 thank you for watching and supporting my videos!
I must say, kudos to you for not giving up!! Let me know how the higher burr setting works out for you! And if you find yourself confused or lost on which way to adjust or what to do next, consider joining my Patreon so that we can chat about your espresso routine more in depth via video too. Sometimes you just want to show someone what you're doing and ask "WHAT DO I CHANGE?!!?!" 😅
Thanks for your video. I've been trying to figure out what was wrong as all of a sudden the lowest grind setting wasn't enough. Then your video solved it quickly. Thanks again!
Awesome! Happy to be able to help 😊
Game changer....I had no idea but this made an instant difference! Thank you!
WOW! You saved me HOURS of stuffing around. I've just upgraded my coffee rig the Dual Boiler and the Smart Grinder Pro. I would have NEVER tried this combinations and it would've taken me a truck load of beans before I stumbled across these setting.
Mine is at 3 for the burr and 8 for the grind, but I suspect that the humidity today is killing the beans. In winter (and outside of the cyclone ripping down the coast making things muggy) I'm suspecting that 7 might be the more common setting. Now to get my wife's Decaf sorted and I will be in heaven!
This is awesome! I'm so happy to hear that this was helpful. Ah yes, I always have to go down 1-2 grind sizes finer for decaf 😬
@@HijabsandAprons I have an old Sunbeam conical burr grinder that I will shim to get right for her decaf now. This will happen post-christmas. For now, I'm using the dual wall basket in the group head. (Sub-optimal, I know, but is doing the job)
Your videos have been so good..with the dosing cup what is the correct size for a barista pro with the naked group handle??
Thank you! I couldn’t pour a decent shot no matter what I tried. I ended up trying 3 for the burr adjustment as you did and it worked perfectly. I’m left wondering why the machine comes at a default of 6, maybe out of the box those settings work and the burrs become less effective the longer you use it?
hi ! incredibly helpful video ! I hope you can provide your insight on a question I have : I have the sage ( breville ) barista express and I use only light roast , what should my burr setting be and what grind setting should it be at ?
When you got the machine new were you still grinding on lower finer setting? I have a barista touch, considering the built in grinder is the same as the pro. I have always managed to get a perfect shot in the range of 13 to 15 outer grind settings for 18-20gms of beans. Never had to touch the inner bur settings. Now am confused if am doing something wrong or probably breville have updated the grinder. I bought the machine last month.
i have unfortunately maxed out my smart grinder pro. my burrs are set to finest, and the grind size to finest and would still get bad shots (i use a gaggia classic pro with pid and pressure set to 6 bars, upgraded basket and i use a puck screen). previously, when it just discovered the burr adjustment, i would get decent shots, but after a while i noticed it was kind of becoming bad again.) so i thought, maybe its something that needs regular recalibrations. i was wondering if theres a way to check if the burrs are aligned/calibrated or something.
Thanks for your video, I just buy the Breville Grinder and leave the default setting of Burr at 6 and the Grinder size of 6. A little bit disappointed at the beginning when compare with the hand grinder 1Zpresso K-Ultra as the espresso come out too fast. After watching your video I try to adjust the burr size to 4 and Grinder size of 6. Hope I will have a better shot
Almost about a month now and finally i am getting close to a decent shot. Im using beans from Brooklyn roasting company, machine: Brista Touch, inner burr 4 and outter 15, dose 19.2 gram, yeild 40gram in 30 sec. My shots have a tiny bit of sourness and dryness (not too bad), for now I am just pulling a longer shot for 38 sec 57 grams to remedy this. If i grind at 14 i get 20grams in 30 sec. But a lot of thanks to you, your videos really helped. Lots of Love ❤️.
Hmmm usually a sour taste indicates that your shot is too fast, so you might want to drop your grind size down to 14 but also drop your dose down to 18.5-ish. Make sure the dose you're measuring is the grounded coffee, not the weight of beans you're putting in. Remember that the grinder retains a lot too. So you might think your dose is 19.2 but is actually around 18.5 🤷🏻♀️ But ultimately taste is what matters most!
You were right, it worked. Shot is not sour or bitter anymore, just pure flavor. And also realized that beans im using has too much floral taste to it that I hate 🤣. Previously, the sourness made it taste very bold. Thank you so much, you made my life so much easier, I wish you too many good karma.
I upgraded about 2 weeks ago because I had this problem with my old BE, even after replacing and adjusting the burr. I still don't get a consistent shot and I think I will have to step the burr down, will try 5 and play with the grind size. Not sure if a brand new grinder (Baratza burrs version) should give me inconsistency problems. Sometimes I feel like returning it and get a Baratza grinder to use with my BE. I do love the steam wand.
Thanks for this! I have a Barista Pro. I was at a grind size of 3 and just bought sine new beans and now I am at a 2.
Sounds super familiar! 😅 thank you for watching!!
Thank you for these videos, they are super useful. Question on what should I do if the is a a “puddle” on top of my puck once I’m done brewing? The speed of extraction seems right, but I thought I was supposed to have a more dried puck. Not sure what to do?
A puddle on top of your puck means you have too much head space between the top of the puck and the shower head. If your dose is where you want it, you will need to get a smaller basket.
Thank you for posting this. You just solved my problem. Greatly appreciate it
You're awesome!!!! The only video that answers my question. Thank you!
Love the video. Great work! I’m pretty frustrated with the smart grind pro. Still not getting a fine enough grind even though I’ve changed the outer burr settings down to 3 and then this morning to 1!!! I have to go to the finest setting and still i flows way too quickly. Today I put the outer burr setting at 1 and still had to have the main setting at 1 and the shot was too fast for proper extraction. Maybe my grinder is faulty?
Is the grinder old or did you buy it used? And are you weighing the grounds when they're in the dosing cup/portafilter? Sorry if these sound like elementary questions--hard to troubleshoot via comments!
That art at the end👍🏾👍🏾
Hello,
Quick question on Breville grinders installed on machines Vs their stand alone grinder "Breville - The Smart Grinder Pro", is the stand alone better/same/worse than the one installed on Barista Pro or Impress ?
Dipping my toes into the Espresso world and Your answer would finalize my decision to go with Bambino Plus or one with installed grinders.
While I am here which would you pick out of the 3 options please aka Bambino+ and seperate grinder or Impress or Pro.
Best Reagards and appreciated.
Hi. Your vids are super useful, thx for making them. Im actually experiencing the opposite. After adjusting the internal grind size to 4 I couldn’t get any water through until about a setting of 15? Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏼
go back to 5, only change if you need to. 4 is way too fine for your beans
Hi Leena, thank you for your videos - this is helping me a lot with my new Barista Pro. Could I ask you (or anyone else in the community) - with your grinder on 3+6 or 3+7, how long does it take to grind let's say 18grams of beans? I keep wondering that it takes my machine around 25 seconds to grind 18g on a fine grind adjustment and wonder if that's normal? Many thanks to whoever can give me a clue!
Takes mine around 18-20 seconds but then I often have to do some more time and bang on the hopper to get all the grounds out. It's not that off. Lower RPM means more time but more consistent grinding hopefully 🤞🏼
Wa Alaikum Salaam. I am also a beginner and There is not enough instructional instructional videos for beginners on UA-cam I like your videos, You make them simple easy To understand. Looking forward For more instructional videos Peace!
Love your videos! May I ask what water you use? Do you just use tap with the charcoal filter from breville?
thanks so much!! yeah i do! just be sure to replace the filter regularly
I recently got the breville impress touch. Haven’t been able to get any coffee to come out at all, no matter what grind size I use, no coffee comes out.
Thanks for your video! What grind setting would you recommend for a French press brew? Every now and again I like one but I haven’t experimented with the barista pro, only for espresso. Do you know? Shukran!
I've never tried it myself, but I'm thinking burr setting at 6 (default) or 7 and grinder set to 15? French press is pretty coarse. I wonder if Breville has a PDF online for their Smart Grind Pro with guidelines for various brewing methods! Will look into it
Hi
Need some help
I’m adjusting the grinder, to a point where and at 1 and 1 and still the shot star at 5 sec and I have 36gr within 15 sec
I have wasted 1 kilo of coffee with no result
Thinking of returning my Breville barista pro
Thank you
nice video, jsut what I needed
happy to help!!
For the inner burr setting of 3 and the grind size of 6-7, what is your coffee bean dosage for a double shot and the grind time? Thank you for your time!
My burr is at 3 and grind size at 3 also. I use 22 gram output is 44gram in 30 seconds
My espresso comes really watery. I want it to come out thick. The grind setting is set to 8. I have a machine just like in this video. Any advice?
Thank you for a very clear informative video.👍
Thanks for all your videos. A couple questions
1. What do you keep your inner burr setting at? I have seen 3 vs 4 in your videos.
2. In other videos, I have seen you use a Crema distribution tool. How did you get the correct height for the tamper?
Changes in inner burr setting are sometimes necessary depending on the bean, and especially when you change to a different bean.
Let's suppose you are in a situation where at grind size 10 your shot is little to slow and at 11 its little bit fast. And you feel like if you were able to get grind size 10.5 that would be perfect. So you can then change your inner burr setting to 1 size finer, and increase your outter grind by 1 or 2.
About the tamper, to the best of my knowledge, I think It does not matter how hard you tamp, As long It was tamp enough.
Hi
I have a Breville barista touch and I was wondering what are the settings in can use to make a good shot of espresso. I tried so many times and my shots look good but I don’t taste much of the coffee. It’s more water down
Did you change the burr setting down to be finer?
Very helpful thank you
soo happy I found this video.
Wow i have the same machine and the inside is at 4 , on the machine at 15 and drop barely coming out if not even not coming out . Dont know if there is something wrong but at these setting its way to fine . Will try going to 20 at least and see
As I said in the video, only adjust the inner burr if you find that your shots are too fast but there's no room to go finer on the ground settings! Increase the outer grind size to ~20-24 and hopefully that'll be better!
Wow. That was easy. Thank you. 😮
My grinding was ok for almost 1 year (burr setting 4, outside settings 5) but now the coffee cones too fast i.e. in 4 seconds before it was taking 6 seconds. Do I need to buy a new Burr assembly? After how much time on need to change these parts?
You can go down again on the burr. I'm at 3 burr setting for a year 👍🏼 I'm not sure of the recommended replacement time; it would vary depending on how often you use the machine!!
Thank you!
This is amazing thank you!
Thanks for watching! I'm happy it was helpful 🙂
Is the smart grinder pro equal ? Just think turn it out of the box to 3 and outside 8-9 .
From what I've heard and seen, yes they are very close if not the same! If you'll be grinding for espresso, I do recommend turning the burr to 3 or 4, yes. Let me know if you need any more help!
I don't have a grinder mechanism, how to disassemble it?
Loved this video thank you
I'm happy to hear that! You're welcome! 🤍
Hi, my current burr setting is at 5, and the digital setting is at 6 ~ 7. If I adjust burr to 4, how do I adjust digital setting to compensate the finer burr setting??
If you're trying to match the overall grind size you had originally with burr at 5, then you would go coarser/bigger 1-2 sizes on digital grind size with burr at 4.
Thanks for this video
Hi do you keep you machine constantly on or switch it off between use
Like day to day? I turn it off when I'm done making any drinks. But there's also an auto shut off, I think 😅
This is a great video
Good morning, you talked about fast brewing, but i have the opposite problem , brewing is very little and slow, the amont of grind coffe also less then usual.
Please and thank you.
Go coarser on the outer grind size! Higher number means bigger/coarser, smaller number is finer/smaller
Will try n let u know 😊
2:00 darn mine wont turn and come out 😅 im twisting it so hard im afraid it will break.
Hey
I changed internal burr setting to 3 and outer to 6 and no coffee came out. I changed outer to 7 and 8 if it made a difference but very little coffee came out in around 40-50 sec. What am I doing wrong.
maybe you have a 58mm portafilter. These numbers are for ppl using 54mm. I had the same experience. For me, outer 9 and inner 6 does it
Don't change the inner burr until or unless you're at an outer grind size of 1 and your shot is still coming out too fast. No, it doesn't matter whether your portafilter size is 54 or 58 (though I'll point out that all Breville Barista Express and Pro machines are 54mm).
Also very important note--the newer machines are made with Baratza burrs and I think Breville has adjusted them to be fine enough for espresso straight out of the box. So again, unless you're at an outer grind size of 1 and your espresso is coming out too fast/underextracted, don't adjust the burr
What is that vacuum you are using for the beans?
It's a regular vacuum with an attachment! I only use the attachment for cleaning my machine. Otherwise I get irked if I'm using non food stuff around food! You can also get a small handheld vacuum with a narrow attachment and use it just for your coffee station!! Like this one: amzn.to/3TZvTsO
@@HijabsandAprons thank you thank you. Also I love your videos it’s why I got some of the Breville accessories from crema and have really been working on my espresso shots. But some days I get lazy and just make it iced for the purpose of caffeine 😂
This fits the older 860XL too - so if you're 860XL grinder isn't grinding fine enough you can upgrade to this adjustable unit.
R u sure about that? I have a 2009 860xl…will the upgrade fit mine?
I just got my Breville barista pro and man, this thing is frustrating haha! I've left the inner burr at the default and have been playing with different grind sizes with around 18-19 grams of coffee. Even on a grind size of 10 the shot comes out sooooo slowly... I've been trying to tamp with less force but it seems like I'm barely putting any force already and it still comes out slow! I adjusted it to a size 13 grind and got one good shot out of 18.5 grams with a 36 gram output in the correct time and flow rate, but when I tried to replicate, it came out too fast. I'm starting to hate this machine 🤣. Any advice would be appreciated!
Hey! Congrats on your new machine! Oh boy that does sound frustrating 🥲 can I confirm that you're using the single wall basket?? The dual wall basket has only one hole underneath, whereas the single wall has several tiny holes.
@@HijabsandAprons yes! The single wall double shot basket
@@maddygardner4641 Hmm, when were your beans roasted? Is there a date on the bag?
@@HijabsandAprons yes 3/6/23!
Did you figure this out? 13 grind size seems high, so I'm just wondering what machine and basket you are using? For reference on the default burr setting I've never ground above 5 on this machine.
Hello, I'm kinda confused on the outer knob settings, my inner burr is 6 what should my outer knob be? Seems like its not coming out, i tried to clean everything but still the grinded beans is not coming out :(
What is your outer knob set to right now?? Go higher
@@HijabsandAprons its currently at 10
@@kapben yeah so try like 15
Thank you, i tried it but it looks like its not fine enough, hmm can you suggest a burr and outer knob settings please
Thanks for the video. The problem for my machine is that it takes hell lot of strength to take out the grind from the burr..................I want to give up...
I set the burr setting to 3 and set it to grind 05 and still my espresso is coming out in 12 seconds, I don't know if it's from the pressurized filter or the old coffee
Always try to use beans roasted within the past 4 weeks
@@HijabsandAprons I tried with new grains after 19 days of roasting and it still wasn't working, I noticed that it started working when I changed the internal setting to 3 and the external setting to 1. Do you think this could damage the blades?
@@Mfuao How old is your machine?? If you're having to go finer on the burrs just to achieve a decent shot, it might be time to replace the burrs
@@HijabsandAprons my machine is exactly 13 days old (grinder) and my oster espresso machine is 24 days old, it doesn't take pressure and comes out very quickly, with a Bravoit manual grinder(from my friend) it is possible to achieve a fine grind now in the breville it was only possible by putting the internal grinder in 03 and the external one in 01
Thank you. I'm about to have a nervous break down. I've just got new beans delivered in and I've put 18g in and my optimum 34g comes out in 10 secs. I've tried 4 times and I'm about to cry. At this point I'm gona have no beans left and still can't get slower 😭😭
I've just adjusted inner burr to 3 and I'm going to watch more of your videos to see if it works.
Thank u, I feel so incompetent and disheartened.
Oh no!! 10 seconds?! Yes definitely lower the grind size, what size are you at right now on the outside knob??
@@HijabsandAprons I changed inner burr to 3 and outer grind to 3
@@AussieMumVLOGS Okay 👍🏼 can I confirm your beans are from a local shop with a roast date no older than April 2, 2023?? The older or more stale beans are, the more fine you have to go (might even just want to use a double wall basket).
@@HijabsandAprons Yes completely fresh from a local Sydney roaster, Seven miles coffee roaster.
ROASTED ON 18TH APRIL 2023
I watched your video and changed my inner burr from 6 to 3 and that definitely helped slow the extraction but I just can't figure out the outer know on the left what to set it to.
I've tried to dial in 5 times now and I'm about to give up 😭
When you say you're putting 18g in, is this what you measure before putting into the grinder? Or do you weigh it after it is ground too
Where I can I find the vacuum like this pls?
This is a regular vacuum with the extension and crevice attachments on it! Mine is a Shark vacuum
@@HijabsandAprons a regular vacuum? Unbelievable! Thanks for such a quick reply!
I adjusted my inner burr setting from 4 to 2 and played with my outside setting from 6 all the way down to 1 and it still comes out a bit too fast. I’ve worked on on my tamping and used pretty new beans and I’m stuck. I’ve tried using my bottomless filter and it’s even quicker
Wow! What dose amount are you putting in?? And when you say fast, how fast are we talking? 40g out in 20 seconds?
Update: I’m using fresh beans (less than a month), adjusted inner burr to 3 outer to 2, use the WDT, portafilter screen and measuring 18 g w 36-40 g output, and good tamping tool and my results are great!
How did you unlatch the burr so effortlessly? I ended up snapping the hook and injuring myself 😅😅😅😅 need to find replacement now😢😢
Yes very confusing. To remove the burr open the grind setting dial all the way to coarse. Then should come out easily. But will have to reset your grind size after you reinstall the burr.
@@kasmirtoo omgggg thank you! That sort of make sense! No wonder, because my grinder was on finest setting
@@hiimki I hàve oracle touch. I like the machine but the grinder has been a problem since new. Get it set perfect and less than six shots later I am chasing the grinder settings around. My grinder is set between 15 and 10. I cleaned it the other day. The burr is set to one from the factory so no adjustment there. I felt the burr it doesn't feel sharp. I called Breville. Machine only has 400 shots on it. Probably 100 throw away. They are sending new burrs. But they are out of stock. If that doesn't work I will probably buy a separate grinder. You wouldn't think for $2700 I would have to do that.
i have been grinding consistently for many months now and the results were desrireable, until last week.
the upper burr is set at 3 and i grind in the range of 6 to 3. since last week, i have been having a lot of attaining a brewing pressure of greater than 4 bars and an extraction time longer than 19 seconds. i do no tknow what happened
should i change the upper bursettings again? maybe to 4 ro 5?
Did you change beans? Are you using supermarket beans or roasted within this month? If your shots are coming out that fast and such low pressure, you need to dose higher or grind FINER (so go down to burr of 2)
But check other factors first (like my questions above)
@HijabsandAprons thanks for your reply
1) no. I have been consistently the same brand and type of beans for a year and a half
2) if it does not work out when i try tonight, i will adjust the bur settings
3) every 2 weeks i clean the grinder with a vacumm and a toothpick. I don't suppose this is the reason right?
4) have you cleaned the grinder by taking out the lower/ conical bur?
@@ddiesel1836 Yeah I think maybe the burrs have worn down a bit. So you might need to go finer (to 2). Eventually you can buy a new burr set too. Get a fresh set and then hopefully you won't need to adjust the burr at all from default!
cool, what can you get? just the upper burr i giess?@@HijabsandAprons
@HijabsandAprons tried setting the Burr to 2, and still the same
- grind setting at 3
- pressure is about 6 bars
- extraction is about 18 secs
- yield does not even reach 1:1
- the flow is also delayed. Does not start until 3 or 4 secs after i preas the button
- i tried not putting too mucb preasure on my tamp but still the same
Ill try to set the burr to 1
i changed my burr setting to 4 and grind size to 7. for some reason it did not disperse any coffee. am i doing something wrong.?
That grind size might be to fine, which is preventing the water from passing through
Hi fran actually its the coffee that is not dispursing after i changed the setting.
Hi! Just as Fran suggested, try increasing your grind size maybe up to 9 or 10. See if that yields some liquid! Also make sure your dose is maximum 19g
No coffee ground is dispersing after setting it.
@@luznepomucenosuarez Make sure the burr was inserted and clicked in all the way. And if no coffee grounds are coming out even at a bigger grind size, then move the burr setting back up to 6/default and try again
Thank uou 😊
Legend. Thank you :-)
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I think Breville has made an adjustment given that so many people were adjusting the internal setting.
I just bought a new Breville Express Impress and it came with an internal setting of 7. Because I had watched so many videos on needing to go finer, I changed mine to 5 without even pulling a single shot. When I did that, the machine was unable to push any water through even on the most coarse setting on the outside.
After many tries, I’m back at 7 inside and 18 outside to finally get a good shot. 😂
Oh man this makes complete sense and I'm happy to hear it! (not your wasted shot/time though, sorry!) Yeah I definitely recommend trying a shot before adjusting the burr now 🙃
Their new machines come with Baratza branded burrs now. For them to specify that on their website now makes me think they've changed them, too.
Thank you for watching and for the feedback!
i have a barista express and i cant adjust the inner bur theres no such option avail to me
same here