Step By Step: 2.4 EcoTec Timing Chain Replacement
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2017
- Part 2: This job can be done with the engine still in the car. But to give you a better view, and to more easily complete other work I had to do, I raised the car off the engine and transmission.
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I know this video was posted 5 years ago, and I'd usually shy away from replacing a timing chain, but I appreciate your thoroughness in what each part is, how to overcome specific obstacles and explaining what you've got to torque it to. Every UA-cam tutorial video should follow your guidelines.
How much could this job cost ? 😢 i think my car might need a timing chain
@j.2391 due to labor costs prob around 600-1000(according to google) also depending apon the year and labor cost the tech charges 🤷♂️ even when I see the timing chain itself being around 100$ online
Excellent video. Thanks for going to the trouble of dropping the engine so that viewers could see what you were doing. One suggestion to those who may have to replace an Ecotec timing chain - the torque values for the 10 mm bolts on Ecotec engines are typically 89 inch/pounds (verify for your engine) - any thing higher than the factory spec has a tendency to strip the threads. Inch/pound torque wrenches for home mechanics are relatively inexpensive (about $40), and relying on feel rather than precise torque values can be an invitation to disaster for DIYers who do not work on these engines every day. Another point - if the valve timing is not set perfectly, you will get more codes and will have to go back into the engine to get the timing right. Eric O. at the South Main Auto channel did a 5 part series on a very similar 4 cylinder Chevy Colorado engine with timing issues and phaser problems; it is a long series but his conclusion after a lot of work on that engine was that there is little to no room for valve timing errors in these types of GM engines. Again, thanks for one of the best videos on doing this job that I have ever seen - it is a masterpiece.
i know this is four years old, but do the 10mm bolts that hold the guides in place also get tightened to 89 inch pounds?
This video was very helpful, I have a friend who has a 2012 Captiva Sport 2.4L, which was running rough and making an upper engine clattering sound. I took the valve cover off. To find that the upper guide was missing it's plastic piece and the metal was cracked. Along with the chain being very loose. I decided to replace both guides and the tensioner. I did have to set the timing again (It was way off.) And pull off the oil pan to get the plastic pieces out. The engine runs very well and only had 80,000 miles on it. Thanks so much for the video, I couldn't have done it without it.
Very nicely done. I just got done putting a new water pump on my truck, always feels good to have the job done right.
People like you are amazingly generous. Educating people takes time and patience and for that you are a hero. I'd be tempted to buy vehicles with this engine and fix them for a profit if this will be a common issue.
I wanna know if the timing chain goes on these engines, will it have bent valves or not. Every video I've watched says nothing about the valves may have contacted the piston when the timing chain goes bad.
It is an interference engine. While the level of severity may vary from mild to catastrophic, all failures will lead to some degree of valve to piston contact.
Just had the timing chain replaced at 110,000 miles.
2015 equinox lt
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@@luckyl6042 yes it will.
Good one Daniel. Always enjoy your videos. The voice overs are great. Great content, great job. Thanks for taking us along.
Just did this job using your tutorial. It helped immensely. Purchased all my parts from Rock Auto online except for the torque to yield cam sprocket bolts. Those I bought at the Chevy dealership. I left the engine in place when doing this job. That made it difficult removing one of the timing chain cover bolts(an extra long one) and one of the motor mount bolts. Both of these bolts will hit the fender wheel well until you lower and raise the motor using a bar for leverage. Put everything back together again and it’s running great. Thanks for the great video!
777antlers Drill a hole for relief. F it!
This is absolutely one of the best repair overview videos that I have seen. It was to the point, lighting & audio were great but most importantly covered the particulars.
Keep up the great work!
He didn’t cover shit
Direct and clear. Thank you.
Wow! Thanks a lot. I couldn't understand from other video on UA-cam what they meant by an additional 100 degrees. You're a good instructor. Thanks again. Big fan now.
looks like a vid made by GM to distribute to the dealerships. Very well put and narrated with precision.
Well done. This must be the most concise video on the subject. Thank you.
Used this as a guide to do one today. Worked perfectly. Thank you.
Damn like a boss I’m going to rewatch and re watch and rewatch,, I work at gm just started, and they gave me a piston replacement and timing chain job on a terrain like the 2nd day of work, I’m not a seasoned technician but the boost of confidence from watching you do this makes me excited for work tomorrow, keep kicking ass!
How did the job go?
Thats awesome brother
@@jonathanstimpert1383 I’m assuming he got fired 😅
Very awesome video.
Clear, to the point with lots of tips .
WAY TO GO SIR 👍
THANK YOU for this video. first set of chains ive ever done. in my career. big help!
best repair video I have ever seen. I will do this same job on a 2010 with 79K miles this next fall or winter. I don't work on vehicles during the AZ summers. It will stay parked until then. Excellent instructional video!!
Although, I didn't hear him mention about TDC Piston 1 for exhaust stroke for LE5 engine after 2008.
No mention of compression stroke TDC or exhaust stroke TDC differences for years. Very important to know if you set it on exhaust or compression tdc.
Also, medium loctite any timing component bolts, the new ones come with blue dealer-tite.
Thank You so much for providing a much better and indepth video on how to do this. I need to do this on my 2011 buick regal with the same engine in it. The slack in the chain on my vehicle is not as bad as this one witch is impressive cause I have 140k miles on mine. All the other videos I have seen don't give you direction on setting the timing. Earned a subscribtion from me sir.
Awesome video! This will help me a lot in fixing my equinox. Really appreciate the detailed instructions and the awesome angle/view of the videos!
Thankyou so much I'm gonna do this job tomorrow. Your a life saver!
Just want to say this video is on point I followed this to a T and had 100% success rate on fixing my Buick 2.4l. Thankyou
Think im going to do this soon. Your video was straight to the point with specifics. Usually videos make me wanna throw my phone. Lifesaver!
This is amazing, thank you for the detailed video!
Just did this job on my 2011 Equinox. Replaced the timing chain and sprockets should have done the balance chain . The job was actually pretty easy even in the car. Thanks for you video it made the jobs easy. The timing chain guide was broken in three and the chain was so slack it was starting to wear on valve cover. The engine runs great now(as good as it can) hopefully I'll get a few years out of this repair.
I'm doing this now on my wife's 2011. Why did you say you wish you would have done the balance chain? Just because you were in there?
Did you do this with the engine in the vehicle? If yes, what were the difficult steps and did you need special tools? Thanks.
At what mileage was the replacement done?
Thank you all very much for the positive feedback! This is the first video I have ever "voiced over" and I think it was a big success. It allowed me to focus on the work while filming the repairs, then focus on my narration when I recorded the voice over. I'll most likely create many more videos this way. Thanks again!!!
I think you are great for procedure videos. Also wondering shorcuts and minimal disasembly, Wondering how many other would love to get this videos to work daily on a fleet or even at the dealership where this isuses repeat all over the place and an optimized procedure to cut costs in mandatory. You should handle this vids t your work to help technicians. Great value and sure you will wonder way to save labour hours and money. EDIT: losts of misspellings
At how many miles did you chance it at?? I had a water pump leak and because of it leaking i ended up changing my pump and timing chain at 145k on my 2011 malibu LT.
DanielJaegerFilms why do these tensioner go out?
replaced the timing chain on my 2011 malibu in november. in early February, car brought up p0016/p0017 code. then a couple of days later, the car refused to start. took it to the shop and was told that there's no compression in the cylinders. is there a way to fix it that doesn't involve changing the engine
Michael Okuh hello how much did you pay in repairs? my 2011 Malibu is giving me the exact same 2 codes
Not only technically proficient but clear and expertly explained and demonstrated each step. How tech videos should be done. I'll echo another comment by saying thank you for being so generous with sharing your knowledge.
You’re such a good dude. Love the vids
Great job of repair and of your video production. Very easy to hear and understand. Look forward to your next video
Thanks a lot bud, very helpful video i just tackled this job and patience was key i must of watch your video 20 times at least so virtually you were there one step at a time lol!!!
How long did it take you to do it?
@@justinjustin337 hi there, yeah I took my sweet time almost 3 weeks spent about 700$ on parts and tools thermostat and water pump replaced as well I’m not a mechanic but I was up for the challenge I wanted to make sure i was dead on 👍
Thanks for the video. I have a 2.2 Ecotec still running strong at 265000 miles.
Awesome to know, Cobalt?
Very detailed video and no bs chatting wasting time- Thank you
Excellent video Daniel, thank’s and keep’em coming...
It can be done with it in the car but so much harder. Great video.
you are really good mechanic
You made a tough job look simple, nice work!
Thank you. This video is very well thought out and informative
Awesome video. This one explained some issues I was having where most of the other videos on this engine did not.
Thank you for putting this video together made my life easy! Great job!
This guy should have his own TV show. What a great tutorial video!
Great video! Some pointer for doing it without dropping the subframe.
Remove your left (looking at the vehicle) engine Mount and take the bolt out of your front engine Mount. This will allow you to jack the engine up and lower it to access some of the bolts from under your wheel well.
Make sure to buy extra phaser bolts. Those are the 10mm head bolts used to hold the chain guides. It is the black bolts with spacers.
Have you x2 crank bolts as well. These are the 18mm head bolts. These bolts don’t come with cheaper timing kits.
Holding the cams:
I cut my old chain in half and used that around the crank sprockets to hold them and then vide gripped the chain to the car frame at the front. The helped keep the valves from opening while I loosen the crank bolts. It takes a specialised tool otherwise. It is not a rentable tool from Oreilies.
Thanks for the video informative straight to the point takes a job not easily known and makes it fairly easy to do with your guidance. I thank you for your good videos sir
Well done sir, made this repair easy..thank you
Good mechanic, very talented.
Just did this job today and wouldn’t have completed without this video thanks! For anyone wondering the plug is a 10mm hex and the tensioner can be removed and torqued with a 32mm socket! Thanks again!
Do you have to drop the engine
@@MatthewLeathers5 no I believe I just used a jack underneath with wood and unbolted that side of the engine mount and just went up and down as needed with the jack under the engine
@@2jzna.tI know it’s been forever but how long did this process take you?
Very well detailed video. Thanks for making this
This was an awesome step by step video. Did this work on my sisters 13 Equinox 2.4l . I did it with the motor still in vehicle. Same thing though. Thank you for the great video.
with the motor still in the vehicle, do you have to remove the entire motor mount as shown? Do you put a jack under the motor in this situation? Could you get by just removing that bottom motor mount bolt?? thanks for any assistance!
At what mileage was the replacement done?
Love this guy. Awesome video as always.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much for your expertise and your knowledge. I’m trying it.
Respect! Never saw a video explained that well ! And I saw and participated to A LOT of lessons or videos . I'm an Caterpillar engineer. Watching this kind of videos because I bought a crap Equinox.....I'm sorry for that!😢
Outstanding video !! Best I've seen ever!
Very good overview. Well done.
Very thankful to see this video, even if it's only to justify the cost of paying someone to do it. Thank you for the insight!!
Great video! Straight to the point!
Bravo 👍this was explained beautifully thank you guys for the video.
Amazing video. timing chain covered under 10 minutes!!
now that is an exceptional report there fella.
Beautiful presentation!!
Excellent video. Saved my butt. Thanks from NC
You did the timing chain yourself?
you did a great job with the video.. but I did have to watch another video to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind.. you said tdc on the compression stroke… I couldn’t find the marks… it’s actually done on the exhaust stroke.. I hope you don’t find this rude.. just thought I would throw it out there.. Thanku for making videos it makes our lives so much easier!
This video is a lot of help. Thank you!
Great video! Very informative, thanks!
Yo this helped out my dad and I we have a 2011 Malibu and this is exactly what happened. Thanks for your awesome video
Did you have to drop the cradle or did you replace with it in the car?
Perfect! so much better than the GM work instructions. Thanks
That was like a professional instructional video nice job. Sounds like my old 2.2 S10 pickup at the end with little exhaust leak
Hands down ! Awesome video Thankyou
Wow that was quick and easy
Now I can do it after watching this video 👍
Thank you for your excellent video.
Finally... you upload such an interesting video, long time ago. 😊
Amazing video very detailed and informative
Made it look easy. Great Video
Rock44260 h
Because it is....
Dude. You are the man. Thanks for this
Thanks man.
Truthfully that is a lot more than I want to do in my basic garage.
That is not outside my skill set but I really don't want to do it. I'll pay somebody for that one.
Thank you so much this video was a major help
you sir, are a master!
You make it look so easy. I'll be doing this in a couple of weeks.
clear and concise. well done
I am a gm master technician at a gm dealership. Ive done hundreds of these engines. Very nice job and great explanation. Spot on.
Any advice you could give to those of us who own a newer (2014-2016)2.4 ecotec engine? Ive got 25k on mine so far with no problems yet. I change my own oil every 4-5k miles with synthetic (pennzoil platinum, quaker state ultimate.) Next change im going to Amsoil!
@@ryanchristensen1799 Are you sure you don't have a 2.5 Ecotec?
@@DJR5280 yes im sure, terrain and equinoxes have 2.4 L and the emission sticker under the hood says its a 2.4 L.
@@ryanchristensen1799 I assumed you had a Malibu.
David hi - do u have to drop out engine like done here? Or can do with car on ground? How long does this take? And if doing chain and tensioner - should replace with new cam phasers and water pump too? And please could give approx cost for doing this job?
Well done! Daniel.
Very well done. Much appreciated. 👍
Just to clarify everyone, the engine does not need to be removed. Idk if this guy mentioned that or not. These engines are decent other than timing chain issues but it’s not a big deal to do . No timing chain will last forever
Wonder how much harder tho...
i had more than 6 different cars, always exhaust pipe problem or normal things like alternator. is engine is garbage and very flawed.
He stated that. Just said it was easier for video / viewing purposes.
@@Francois_Dupont This is a very common engine design and problem currently, not unique to GM by any means.
Not everyone is stupid like you.
Very good video. Only issue I have is after installing all new timing components is when i turn the engine over by hand the cam sprockets are making a clicking/popping sound as a turn the engine a full revolution. The sound is definitely coming from the camshafts /sprockets..
Nice video Daniel 👍
NIcely done; thorough and very helpful information. Thank you.
Christopher Van Kleeck gotta do this job later today
@@skylargibson8599 I usually work on Audi and Volkswagen and was surprised how similar this is.
Very helpful video. Thanks
Really well done video
Great Video!! Thank you.
Great video! Definitely confirms this is something I cannot do. Wish you were my neighbor!
It's easy.. anyone can do this.buy the service repair manual then..
Whether you tell yourself you can, or you can’t, you’re usually right.
Nice job this helped a ton!!
Thank you! Very helpful!
Very well done video!
very good detail video
Thanks for sharing, great video 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
excellent video. in the middle of this job on a '13 Captiva 2.4. on mine, the VVT sprockets are the same part number. the intake is seized and the exhaust rotates and returns as i assume it should. waiting on parts. wouldnt have attempted it without this video
Here is a pic of the broken part. Seized VVT sprocket, '13 Captiva sport 2.4L. Internally broken. P0011 and others imgur.com/a/yaY2EPc
Excellent video. Thanks for going to the trouble of dropping the engine so that viewers could see what you were doing. One suggestion to those who may have to replace an Ecotec timing chain - the torque values for the 10 mm bolts on Ecotec engines are typically 89 inch/pounds (verify for your engine) - any thing higher than the factory spec has a tendency to strip the threads. Inch/pound torque wrenches for home mechanics are relatively inexpensive (about $40), and relying on feel rather than precise torque values can be an invitation to disaster for DIYers who do not work on these engines every day. Another point - if the valve timing is not set perfectly, you will get more codes and will have to go back into the engine to get the timing right. Eric O. at the South Main Auto channel did a 5 part series on a 4 cylinder Chevy Colorado engine with timing issues and phaser problems; it is a long series but his conclusion after a lot of work on that engine was that there is little to no room for valve timing errors in these types of GM engines. Again, thanks for one of the best videos on doing this job that I have ever seen - it is a masterpiece.
very precise video. thanks
Moral of the story;
Change your oil often (5k-7k), with the correct oil composition (5w30 DexOs). Your pockets will thank you. P.S. : Dont forget the transmission oil. It needs changed too. Preventative maintenance is the best maintenance.
Show me a ecotec that follows my recommendation from the beginning of its life, I will show you 200k mi. engine/ transmission.
I agree.. i race these ecotecs the 2.2 (basically the same). And never had an issue. They are pretty quick and with me changing the oil every couple races it was still going strong till my dad raced it smacked a wall and broke tranny and block lol
I have a 2011 2.4 Malibu. Had just under 30k on it when I got it in 2013, now approaching 210k and still runs great
My Mother has a 2011 Malibu. I change her oil for her and use M1. I take it to the dealer for a trans flush every 30k. Car has 130k miles now and it's not a bad car. Dipstick always reads low oil level but when I change the oil 5 quarts comes out. Had to change her headlights this weekend.... Not happy. What a pain in the ass.
@@cordiepowell3046 I really hope that's the case with my wife's 2015 equinox. I change the oil every 3k weith mobil 1 dexos and the filter every 6k. also mobil 1 or Wix. did the trans service at 50k and now at 62k miles I noticed the passenger side axle seal as well as the trans cooler lines are leaking at the radiator. hopefully it can be done under warranty.. ps I do the oil so often because it seems these engines are very hard on oil.
Where GM has failed so many of us, you have taken the time to help. Cheers, friend! 2nd time I'm replacing timing components because that stupid front timing guide has broken. What a terrible design.
very nice video. thank you
Thanks very imformative!
Good video man
Great Video, Looks much the same for 2.2 Eco. Thanks.