The Road to the MH17 Crash Site: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 65)
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2014
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Over the past week, the Ukrainian military has recaptured a number of cities across eastern Ukraine. In this dispatch, VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky heads towards the MH17 crash site, as the Ukrainian military has successfully recaptured the cities surrounding it. On his way there, he visits a former separatist checkpoint and dugout, where he finds artillery the separatists used - some of which dates as far back as World War II.
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be careful simon.....
It seems the only thing I'm interested on ViceNews now is the Russian Roulette videos now.
The ISIS videos, I bet they're gonna be fun too.
Facts
I am also same reason
Too bad there aren't any current videos
In response to the separatist propaganda poster, are 2 questions, how are the Ukrainians or Ukrainian Government Fascists and what genocide?
killing own people ? .. and fascist they meant Right Sector
Anyone who doesn't get on their knees and fellate putin is a CIA employed fascist and/or jew.
now to be clear i think its horrible what the nazis/fascists did but you must understand the russians are 'very' proud of stalin and the soviet union (even though he killed way more than hitler, yet apparently to russians it somehow is still a good thing) because it was the only time where they meant something; so now you have positive feelings for stalin and everything pro soviet union and what better way to strengthen those emotions further than to put a stamp with the arch enemy of stalin and mother russia on everything you hate? that should give you a psychological view of their love for "fascists"
alpha12orc It's the perfect idea for propaganda .
It's propaganda for a reason. Vilify the opponent to make your guys fight. UA uses the term "Terrorist" on all the combatants and Separatists use "Fascist and Genocide"
Human Development Index:
#1 Norway
#5 USA
#6 Germany
#14 UK
#55 Libya
#56 Oman
#57 Russia
VoodooRabbit Garuda He said human development.. Lets look at a world chart of corruption, shall we?
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Chart from December 5, 2012.
Oops...
Uuu... Oman goes up I see. Good for them!
2019 USA 15th
The Russians seriously need to start eating Snickers.
4:20 The mini-encirclement operation was an offensive oversight leading to a total disaster. DPR reinforcements from Dyakove cauldron arrived from the south and southwest surrounding them creating another mini-encirclement. They were caught off-guard. Their rearguard located outside the cauldron has no mechanized (tanks and apc) units to support them which they demanded (as stated by Azos battallion in the Dispatch 76). The army went into disarray from heavy shelling (Dispatch 75). Unfortunately, they were all wipedout except for Azos battalion that miraculously manage to exit the cauldron and retreated to Mariupol.
Spoiler alert!!! Gosh
Also known as illovaisk tragedy
Heh, still fighting it out at the same places now for 8 years. What a superpower Russia is huh 😂😂😂
Well, they did not know DPR would have Russian army helping them.
Thanks for this. I'm watching through for the first time and appreciated having this context for the later episodes.
Glory to Ukraine!
Heroyam Slava 🇺🇦
Go Russia
I remember when Putin's paid trolls where on here talking about how the Ukrainian Army blew up these same bridges. Is Putin still hiring?
Great reporting as always Simon. Please be safe out there brother.
So basically the Ukrainians are a similar tactic that used to entrap Stalingrad during WWII it's a pretty damn effective battleplan if i must say, i hope they accomplish it so they can finally focus on stabilizing the rest of the country. Go Ukraine!
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Ukraine is illegally occupying lands they have no right to. Ukraine our of Russia NOW!
4:20 The mini-encirclement operation was an offensive oversight leading to a total disaster. DPR reinforcements from Dyakove cauldron arrived from the south and southwest surrounding them creating another mini-encirclement. They were caught off-guard. Their rearguard located outside the cauldron has no mechanized (tanks and apc) units to support them which they demanded (as stated by Azos battallion in the Dispatch 76). The army went into disarray from heavy shelling (Dispatch 75). Unfortunately, they were all wipedout except for Azos battalion that miraculously manage to exit the cauldron and retreated to Mariupol.
2:30 - wrong translation, those are mortar rounds. However, mines and mortar rounds are both called mines in Russian.
Simon Ostrovski is a hero for risking his life and not being afraid to show the truth, knowing he can get killed for it. One the best journalist I've ever seen
Not hero but dog journalist from west
@@aulilamri6646 You are 100% right, now that I know who he really is.
Greetings and my sympathy with the people of Ukraine.
womens clothes ?...yes Russian military lol
Archer reference, i.imgur.com/rx7Vayw.png
I am confused why were there women clothings.
Curious Mind It could some of the soldiers wives where visiting, it also could be prostitution, but who knows, it could just be they like cross dressing, but given how they feel about stuff like that, I doubt it
@@CuriousMindUA-cam They looted the underwear of the women that died in the plane crash so they could sniff them and do "their thing". Very holy of them
Good work Simon. Thank you!
lol this guy! Your optimistic comments and that avatar of yours just gets me every time.
That isnt 'pontoon pieces' that is a portable bridge which is intended for that exact purpose
Enjoyed this. Very interesting and informative.
3:00 - wait: so the rebels are cross dressers? :-p
Love these daily dispatches!!
The worst part about this video is that it said to be continued.
Bae : Come Over
Me : But the bridge is broke
Bae : Im Off My Per..
Me : 0:43
I started watching this in late 2020 and this is a pretty good documentary
21 July, Poroshenko (President of Ukraine) - we declare about 40 km ceasefire zone of Boeing-777 crash!
30 July, Groisman (acting prime-minister of Ukraine) We will do our best to regain control of Boeing-777 crash zone!
Consequently, huh?
circumstances change ain't nothing wrong with that....
As my own opinion, that is cheap and petty "stratagem" of ukrainian government. And this proves, that no trust to words of our officials..
In times of War there is strategy involve to take over an area. For now that crash site it probably the most securiest place yet in the Donetsk Region at least. Besides they have Donetsk corners/trapped and will eventually take the Crash Site.
Fckin zombies don't realize that afaik all experts and OSCE guys are on separatist controlled territory and Ukrainian army is bombing roads and crash site not allowing them to reach it and do their job.
Well the separatists would have liked more time to tamper with the site.
Thumbs up if you think Simon Ostrovsky deserves a Pulitzer for his coverage of the Ukraine conflict...
What an amazing gameplan they got. Seems to be really working too.
VoodooRabbit Garuda
lol probably but it seems to be working so it couldn't have been too predictable. I mean those separatists have all the weapons and ammo advantages thanks to Russia and are still losing.
4:20 The mini-encirclement operation was an offensive oversight leading to a total disaster. DPR reinforcements from Dyakove cauldron arrived from the south and southwest surrounding them creating another mini-encirclement. They were caught off-guard. Their rearguard located outside the cauldron has no mechanized (tanks and apc) units to support them which they demanded (as stated by Azos battallion in the Dispatch 76). The army went into disarray from heavy shelling (Dispatch 75). Unfortunately, they were all wipedout except for Azos battalion that miraculously manage to exit the cauldron and retreated to Mariupol.
They said the contents in that crate was mines and explosives, but they look damn near like mortar shells and tank shells...
I think he said "they used WWII era shells as makeshift IEDs"...Not that hard to make a well preserved 70 year old shell go boom I guess.
A MAP! THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D
This is terrible hope they'll get peace
So just which parts of the plane have OSCE been to, I'm guessing not the main part, that was actually hit by the plane, just the surrounding debris?
Does any one know?
I got sick to my stomach when I heard about MH017.....between the IS, Russia, China, North Korea, Africa, South America,ext....I am waiting for WW3 any day now. The question is, will there be anyone left to declare victory afterwards.
I thought there was a cease fire in the area 50km from the crash side?
In our latest Ukraine dispatch,@SimonOstrovsky visits an abandoned separatist checkpoint. Subscribe to VICE News here: bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News
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these dispatches are to damn short
Nikolay aleksi at least there are 65 of them now.
Gerardo B
Simon Ostrovsky is not inpartial, he is obviously a cheerleader for the west ukranians.
How long will the team that's with Simon last before defecting to Russia? Simon forgot to mention the 400 Ukrainian soldiers that did so earlier this week.
It's almost pointless for them to take the crash site. The rebels had people come and take everything away so that nobody could figure out what happen. All that's left is the marks on the ground from the crash and very small pieces of stuff scattered all over like a 10 mile area that will almost certainly never be found. I think the fact that rebels are trying to cover up the evidence is very suspicious and almost puts themselves to blame for it.
God how I love BMP's and T72's and I don't know why lol
It's going to get really tense in the next couple weeks if they plan on squeezing Luhansk.
I hope that the Ukrainians get their land back, and the war will end, because most ordinary people suffer.
It is a pity that Europe and the world took so long that understanding the true countenance of Russia.
Russia apparently waiting in front of the economic chaos that could lead them to the Stone Age.
What i understand is the true color of US, hello from europe.
God Bless Ukraine!
I got to say I fucking LOVE this channel, great job!
Next Dispatch - from freed Donetsk
history experts and warfare specialists incoming
Simon is dangerously deep in their terirtory. They are basically surrounded.
Women fight in the ranks of the rebels.
those are mortar bombs not mines
Looks like the separatists took a few lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan
Modern Russian weapons, WW2 mines :)
These comment sections are the birthplace of tolerance, reason, and debate.
But that sarcasm tho
I find is so funny how people are saying fch Russia and Putin. Especially people from the west. I dont think you know what your goverments did in other Eastern countries. Maybe focus on them first. ESPECIALLY AMERICANS!!!
How about them Russian Apartment Bombings in 1999? Sparked the 2nd Chechen war, probably because Russia and Putin got pissed that they lost the first. :P
from a tree or a stoby pole in a democratic country
Labyrinth9000 I dont hate VICE. i love it. they show more then the Main stream pigs. I was pointing about something. My father always said '' Dont try the clean some ones doorstep if youre is dirty ''. And yes this is for me to. I dont support Russia. I never will.
ClintEastwood711 I never said Russia didnt do any thing wrong. I just said that if your country you live in is allied with Isreal that is killing people or if Turkish people ( What I proudly am ) Complain about killings. i always tell them that we did the same thing against the Armaines. I dont see why people vieuw me as a Putin supporter if i dont support his actions??
Well I say fuck Putin and I'm not from the west. I'm pretty close to the russian border and everyone knows here that Russians are never doing something for others.
Why Simon don`t tell us about of 400 Ukrainian solders which run to Russia 2 days ago, to the "enemy" how they saying...
They ran out of ammunition and were captured by the RUssians. What would you expect RUssia to say?
:)))Very Funny:))Who said to you that they were "captured" by Russians? Psaki I think:)))
Medal of Ukraine goes to Simon for sure...
Crazy Separatists and bandits? Donetsk is now Markarth.
Markarth from Skyrim? :D
GenaUk2012
Yep.
Charge !
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when Ukraine reaches Crimea
It is almost over. Time to clean-up the worms.
2:47 sponsored by Pepsi
Reading the comments is like reading idiot arguments between hardcore rivaling sports fans.
There should be 40km exclusion zone, but Ukrainians were pushing towards the crash site, against the agreement
If your country were under attack you would realise that no agreement with enemy can be
why is this even called russian roulett ??????
this is the way propaganda works
thats my point!! ;) since this vice news journalist got locked in by some Sepratists he just doesnt care about people dying in the Eastern Part of Ukraine. He even supports the whole Right Sektor Militia movement, who kill inoccents.
I think its called Russian Roulett, because the crew of vice games likes to support ww3 and if they take this to far (too many people get anti russian) the take the loaded gun like the rest of the world :(
EscapeIxTxI How many people in your country do think like you?
great job Ukrainian Army free the east of Ukraine from those terrorists
02:40 not cells but slots
How many factions took place in this?...
so you have the Ukraine army, their militia (which is a different faction)
you have the republic guys,
you have actual russian military, their spec ops, cossacks, militia, green men, armed civilians (who are trained)
you have the serbs, i think the turks popped up, you had americans, afgans,
damn... the list of people fighting in this is pretty long...
and note, only two factions were on the Ukrainian side, would have been three but their new leader ousted the republic guys...
so two factions, vs, how many?, damn, and then when america said they weren't getting involved?,
uhh, like 30 eps ago, your soldiers were boasting about how they came from iraq etc to help out... bruh. damn
Oh and the vets who popped in an out.
The more important issue is why this dudes jeans are so tight
This check point got fucked up, and majority of these Junta Army that you see on here was killed in Ilovaisk Pit as they were retreating
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If government troops don't retake crimea after they recapture Donetsk and Luhansk then civilian battalions will retake Crimea
Winter is indeed coming. For Ukraine, and nothing will save her.
after you get kidnaped, russian roulette becomes to a political statement
I think ukraine is soon going to win and end the war
The mini-encirclement operation was an offensive oversight leading to a total disaster. DPR reinforcements from Dyakove cauldron arrived from the south and southwest surrounding them creating another mini-encirclement. They were caught off-guard. Their rearguard located outside the cauldron has no mechanized (tanks and apc) units to support them which they demanded (as stated by Azos battallion in the Dispatch 76). The army went into disarray from heavy shelling (Dispatch 75). Unfortunately, they were all wipedout except for Azos battalion that miraculously manage to exit the cauldron and retreated to Mariupol.
Poroshenko asked for a ceasefire after suffering heavy losses.
Simon's jeans are way too tight
Please bitch about something more irrelevant.
ikr
Where does he get his jeans?
Russians never learned that destroying bridges wont stop the advance even when germans destroyed tons of bridgest the soviet advance was faster than the germans could reatret
Where is the high tech Russian weaponry???
In Russia.
Did you know why many wooman dress? Checeh and kadyrovtsi wear to it and play role game at night :D
Hooray for Combat Engineers!!!!!! blowed up bridge slowed them down by like 5 minutes;
comment section reminds me of worldstars...not good
Least he has his skinny jeans.
Anybody else find the women's clothing kind of creepy...?
For all you guys who really belive that Russia is invading and all that bullshit, who belive that Europe and US is helping Ukraine etc... If you want to start understanding what is really happening, go watch a movie called Zeitgeist first and second part
Russia is useing Religious propaganda as well , justifying basically any crime
FUCK THIS WAR!
ahhh how we misuse and abuse the power of lables... im sure there is a way to communicate without blinding ourselves with them
uckrs... uckrs never changes..
Хорошо что это скоро закончиться,хотя разгребать результаты жтого дерьма нужно будет долго.
So...while everybody is trying to starve each other to death UN is trying to cure diseases, resolve poverty, prevent wars, give justice, give humanitarian aid 24/7...I wish the UN was a country.
4:45 "но со стороны России ведется огонь". Молодец, выполнил установку. Похоже, уковояки обязаны давать такую ремарку в каждом интервью.
Simon was abducted in Eastern Ukraine. He should not still be over there in this situation. It's apparent that his judement has become biased to the point of inciting violence. This is part of the problem and he may be suffering from PTSD, and distrorting his judgment. He should be sent home.
Anywhere I go, any type of news I find more pro-russian comments than any other types of views when it should be far from that. Could Russia just have comment bots on all things related to news?
Yeah. I've read a few articles and it's possible they simply search for whatever mentions ''Russia'', ''Ukraine'', ''Kiev'' or ''Crimea'' to spam nationalist rhetoric. Makes sense since recently completely unrelated videos from years ago have been flooded with nonsense patriotism. Hell, mention Russia in any comment section and there's a good chance you'll get some Anti-west response immediately. It's not like they care if they're right ; The point is to hammer their rhetoric as much as possible, in as many opportunities as possible. Why? I'd wager it's to make people believe they are right, and make it seem like a great majority of users agree with them.
Who can use the shells of WWII? Desperate people. If them arms gave Russia, it probably would be a good explosives? Why the author did not find out and show exactly who is shooting from guns and rocket launchers against peaceful people,hospitals, homes? Now, to go and ask - Why? They know not what they do? The author should be more fundamental.
Great true story,book title-"Cowboy Mafia ".....
Soooo many keyboard warriors...
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Can't everyone just get along? both in the Crimea and in the comments. you'd think the cold war had never ended judging by half these comments, stop insulting other peoples countries it won't make any difference, it's just like name calling in a playground, it does nothing except annoy the people involved.
Ukrainian soldiers call separatists bandits and terrorists, Donbas people call Ukrainians fascists. Labelling is the first step of dehumanization.
But driving g a legitimate democratic government out 9f sn area by force and terrorising all who disagrees into leaving or staying silent IS terrorism, that's nog a lable its just an accurate disruption of thair actions, unlike the Russians using "fashist" to mean anyone Putin dosnt like.
Rebels using WWII munitions? Supposedly armed by Russia?
Long live the People's Republic of Donetsk.
Down with the Nazi-butchers from Kiev.
So Russia is reclaiming land used to be the in the Soviet Union.Soon they are gonna reclaim Alaska.
you should learn some basic history. Alaska was never part of Soviet Union.
Nobody is interested in Alaska.
Sorry to crush your dreams.
Eugene Yunak But for some time it was a part of Russian Empire. So... you know, they will say it was ALWAYS Russian. ;D
Galvars lol you are right! :D
how funny , int this comment section , apparently everything is propaganda , some people are really delusional
It's quite strange that why women lingerie or underwear are all over the abandon separatist outpost trench,
... because they are womens fighthing in those militias too... may be ?
Or something even more shady .
The women's clothing is mega sus
Considering all the women's clothing, maybe you should look around for their graves.