Sonic The Hedgehog Is A Better Cartoon Character Than Video Game Character
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2020
- 29 years ago Sonic The Hedgehog was created. For the time Sonic has been alive, everyone has viewed him as a video game character and rightly so. Sega has been releasing Sonic The Hedgehog games for the longest time and he is marketed as a video game character. However, Sonic has done more then just video games, he's stared in 5 different animated series, 2 long running comic book series and the largest video game based movie of all time. Sonic has evolved so much in his almost 30 year history, he was created as a video game character, but what if he's better as something else? Find out why I think Sonic The Hedgehog Is A Better Cartoon Character Than Video Game Character...
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I gained mad respect when you admitted that 06 is your favorite game.
I agree. That takes balls
BAMGEdits it’s my favorite one too tbh
BAMGEdits Sonic forces is my favorite game
Me too
@The 8 Year Old Kaeden I liked shattered crystal
To be honest, while I do believe sonic as a cartoon character works a lot better, as a video game character, I don't think it's the problem with sonic.. it's the problem with Sonic Team.
Sonic Team as a team is very inconsistent and divided. Many choices they make are made either to cave into fans demands but taken too far, or just being understaffed or not having a good budget.
Sonic Lost World was their attempt at trying to rebuild sonic, when sonic didn't really need to change. The boost formula worked, the adventure formula worked, and the classic formula worked.. they just try to keep up with their name and change something to be unique, when really, it doesn't work.
Sonic unleashed, while hated by some, introduces a great system for sonic. It works! But they felt the need to change that.
*Tl;DR, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.* They change what is good, and make large changes that rupture the franchise. Sonic Boom didn't need to happen, but they wanted to do something 'new.' Lost world didn't need to be such a sudden change in style.. but they didn't anyway.
While sonic does work as a better cartoon character, I don't think he should stay, or be a solid cartoon character. Multi-media is honestly the way to go. Why not have both? Games and cartoons. Merch deals like puma and other forms of toys and play figures. Though based on your title, yeah, sonic is a better cartoon character, but in the nature of sonic himself, but because some cartoons actually try. Sonic team's writers, budget, and developers need an overhaul. This is just my opinion though. The video was awesome as expected! Sonic X was also the way i got introduced into sonic, as well as flash games lol
They do have a problem of not understanding why something works.
Instead of improving on something; they tend to throw it out, recycle it or downgrade it.
The last game I can think of that actually improved and/or built off upon it's original foundation (excl spinoffs) was Sonic Adventure 2 (minus some nitpicks like the nerfed radar).
I guess there's a loss in conviction.
But I wouldn't solely blame the developers, rather SEGA's management.
Since that's the problem they haven't really addressed since the very beginning, and we only saw how badly mismanaged they were after Sonic 06 came out (guess Yuji Naka or someone like him wasn't there to keep them off).
They always blame something arbitrary like "3D", "storytelling in a platformer?!", "multiple playable characters", "it's not 2nd rate Mario enough".
So SEGA never really has to address their management problems, just "go back to it's roots" on a surface level by shoving in Green Hill Zone (instead of understanding what those roots meant to it's creators).
Chris
That’s a really good point!
Too bad speedsupersonic won’t ❤️ it since your opinion doesn’t line up with his...
The boost formula was great on Unleashed, Colors and Generationss, but has flaws and It need to be changed.
In the classic and Adventure games, and even in Sonic Heroes, we have more control over Sonic and a better balance between plataforming and speed.
Sonic Lost World is an impopular game, and I think it's not the best approuch for a 3D Sonic game, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.
The game has great looks, pretty decent controle and level design. I just think people prefer the radical or dark approuch from other modern Sonics than the childsh approuch of Lost World.
@@raphaelmartins6529 Yeah I liked Lost World too, it even introduced the Dropdash (but I guess it's a good thing Mania took it, since it would've been left behind).
I think the Boost Formula needs it's own sub-series separate from the main-games.
Because I can't see it working as a mainline gameplay foundation, compared to Sonic's Adventure foundation.
Since alternate playstyles in the Boost games always need to be completely differently programmed (except for the OC in Forces, and even then...)
I'd say the Boost games should adopt a 2-3 Act per Zone stage set up, to be able to re-use environmental assets while making more stages (similar to Generations, but just Boost Sonic stages).
So then their priority is to come up with creative set-pieces and show different sides of the same Stage setting between 2 Acts.
@@Ronan34753, I think Sega could use the boost formula, but they need to dose the boost. It's too overpower and It makes the stages less diverse.
If Sega doses the boost and made stages with more plataforming sections, I think It would be Perfect. Like a miss of the Adventure fornula with the boost.
Sonic Colors did It pretty well, but Colors lacks 3D. 80% of the game is 2.5D.
this video is cutting-edge
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
Damn didnt expect you to be around here.
Wow hi
You like Sonic!!!!!???
Hmm? Who’s this dude? Why’s everyone freaking out? Did I miss something? 😐
Another point for this case: Night of the Werehog. That is, in my opinion, the best thing that came out of Unleashed.
I though it would have been the intro, THEN night of the werehog
@@UDSArchive OMG, I forgot about the intro! You are 100% right
Yea I think it’s the best opening out of all of the games, the cgi was fantastic
@@UDSArchive It is truly a masterpiece
@@UDSArchive I haven't seen the Sonic The Hedgehog movie yet (I was supposed to _yesterday_ if it wasn't for everything in my area shutting down because of all this COVID 19 stuff), but some childish part of me is _still_ kind of disappointed that Paramount went with live action instead of a CG animation that looks like the beautiful cutscenes from Sonic Unleashed.
I swear I've been a Sonic fan since the Genesis days and that intro was the first time the thought, "man I wish this was a movie" EVER crossed my mind.
I've been wanting a main line sonic game that gave sonic a real personality, and dealt with darker themes without being edgy
Mr.DankeyClod _ I really want a new sonic game where the cast are playable characters again (essentially adventure 4 because Sonic 06 IS adventure 3)
@@zinidinerahman4168 you take that back.
luigi the plumber despite it being bad it still has the cast being playable so it is adventure 3
@@zinidinerahman4168 ummm
@Mr.DankeyClod_ Black Knight?
While I understand where you're coming from, I do think your opinion is a bit uninformed. While I can get liking Sonic in other forms of media, and that being your first and main exposure to it. Sonic is held up as a video game franchise because that's literally where most of his fame comes from. All of the cartoons, comics, and movies would not exist had it not been for the success of the video games; he's literally held up as one of gaming's icons for a reason alongside Mario.
It's not that Sonic is a better cartoon character, it's that the people running the video game series have severe mismanagement issues in regards to the video games. But that's not to say that Sonic can't succeed as a video game series, nor does it mean that the series should shift focus. It means that the people running the series need to get a better handle on what exactly Sonic is.
That said, the video was extremely well done.
If Sega did amazing games in the past, they could do it again if they want to. They have money. I think it's dumb to say that Sega needs to stop focusing in the games. And Sonic Forces is not a terrible game as people say. I was a little disappointed with it, but it's not a bad game. It only could be better.
Sonic should still be a symbol of gaming he was the first one to ever rival mario .
Yeah if it wasn't for hime other companies would never have the guts to stand up to Mario and Nintendo
Agree!!
1991 the blue blur was born
1998 he changed
2014 there new designs new world
2020 he came to the big screen
2024 he becomes a real house bot
2030 the blue blur arrives on our Earth
@Budder Dash Oh No..... EGGMAN PISSSED ON THE MOOOOON
2070 eggman arrives to the world
SSS, Sonic is for everyone, not just kids.
Are you iimplying adults don't watch cartoons
@@clodz_7456 No, I'm implying the opposite.
No I am implying the same of the opposite
@@obd9660 woo
Unlike nintendo
Why did I cry watching this cause I’m scared about a new sonic game
this video basically sums up my actual opinion on sonic right now
I don't like how the games since generations has just become a mediocre aniversery game series every 4-5 years
15:39 he has a neck!
Plot Twist
I love the video and I understand where you're coming from, but I feel like the main problems with the franchise aren't that much of a big deal as everyone's making them out to be. I haven't really seen that much inconsistency in the games as some people say. Sonic's character depiction in Sonic X wasn't always horrible. And I actually enjoy games like the Sonic Storybook Games, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Lost World, Sonic Forces, and TSR. (Yell at me for saying this stuff if you want, I don't care anymore!) But still, a lot of your points do make sense. SEGA does need to get themselves together when it comes to making stuff with the icon that they made.
The games you mentioned are very good or at least decent. I like the Storybooks games.
The only ones that are weak are Sonic Forces and Team Sonic Racing. Forces because have poor level designs and other issues and Team Sonic Racing because lacks content. But, even those titles aren't bad. People are really melodramatic when It comes to Sonic.
@@raphaelmartins6529 Fair enough
Ive been so dissapointed with sonic games recently. I understand your opinion but from my point of view when I played Team Sonic Racing I was bored. Recently I bought Mario Kart 8 on the Switch and Im having a lot of fun.
Sonic Lost world well flat, sonic boom bombed and after that so did Forces. The only good thing thats come out in terms of games is Sonic Mania. Its been about 9 years and all weve gotten is Mania... its kinda sad.
Yes! Finally Someone Says That The Sonic Boom TV Show Is Good I Like It So Much!
Alot of people say that
It's got good and actually funny writing
It’s fucking trash 🤦♂️
It’s mediocre tbh
Zicorey Gainey our opinion dude
I mean yeah even the characters with personalities I don’t like I still like their designs
You know except for Elise
Joao’s World only good human characters that’s not eggman was Maria ... Elise I’ll admit had potential but everything good about her is in blaze a princess who has to suppress her emotions with connection to fire
oh I don’t like Elise your comment makes it sound like you think I do. I meant I don’t like her or her design
Joao’s World no I know you don’t I’m saying Maria the only good design human I’m only saying her character personality traits idea could been decent but all the good elements were already in blaze the cat a much better design character
Raspberry Raz Plays oh yeah no totally of course I agree with that
One has to admit that it is impressive that a game character has made such a great cultural impression.
It’s honestly a shame what happened to “Rise of Lyric”. During development, there was originally NO plans to have it be a tie-in to a TV series. The original title was “Sonic Synergy”, and “Big Red Button” had a deeper story where Sonic and Eggman were friends in the past. To make it short, SEGA has a bunch of rules set for how characters needed to be written for future games, and the story had to be downgraded. And behind “Big Red Buttons’” back, SEGA signed a deal to make the TV series. Sucks because there is a prototype trailer that showed the game was gonna be on Xbox One and PS4. And the game turned out to be a mess in the end.
Brandon Waters why can’t SEGA get rid of those ridiculous rules and restrictions they put on their character?
Trokon Hufnagel Blame Iizuka. Sonic Team needs a radical shift in management.
@@anarchimation1448 they kinda don't exist,The vídeo called "ian flynn ruined the sonic comics?" Go full in all of this
11:16 "Why couldn't they just have done this with Modern Sonic?"
Because that would've ruined his image even more.
I think the point of that was more about not making his identity crisis worse. At the end of the day, no matter how different sonic may look to another design, it's still sonic
Sonic would actually be more popular if there was another Tv Series
SONIC 06, ARE U JOKING * Laughs like a psycho *
At least it wasn't as bad as Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric.
Switching the spotlight, huh...? Why not.
I still wish for more Sonic games: consistent, substantial ones which would show the whole Sonic world and have all the characters given proper light too.
Oh, and an OVA for the Sonic Boom show too. It deserves closure at the very least.
Hum... maybe I should write this to Santa instead.
So, cartoon first, then video games to support the character.
Nope, videogames based on the cartoon to support the cartoon would be ideal.
CNK 98 Sonic boom did this, and you know the result, but the tv show was amazing
I love all sonic media in all shapes in forms, but you make an excellent point. Sonic does do better outside of video games... This is the first time Ive heard this and I feel enlightened.
Me: reads the title
Me: REEEE
it is so weird seeing people a year younger than me in the sonic fandom bc i’m so used to being the 8 year old watching 30 year olds fight about sonic games
If they don't do a sequel to the sonic movie, we at least need a cartoon/TV show that continues the story
I like sonic 06 also i like fire and ice
Sonic was doing something everytime unlike mario with his story.And sonic heroes is one of my favorite sonic games.I also like the story book games except secret rings
I love sonic 06!
I liked 06 too, I especially liked the level design.
#06boyz where you at?
Sonic is better as a gaming character! Fight me
Sonic x is the best tv show I’ve ever seen
I hope there’s a season 4
I think Sonic works great as a video game character they just haven't been doing a good job. I believe there is a lack of direction at Sonic Team. They have rushed games, split dev teams, lay off and hired unqualified people. What they need is new leadership.
Toa Lesovikk 💯 🙌🏻
The 3DS version of Lost World is actually really fun, the boss fights are a lot better than the Wii U version.
The Wii U was truly cursed if a handheld port is a lot better than the main port.
I don't agree with Sonic Lost World for 3DS being better. I think the 3DS version is terrible, the level designs are horrible and the special stage sucks.
The Wii U version is pretty decent, though. I think it's impopular because it's too childsh
@@MrConnman123 Sonic Colors Wii it's almost perfect. You are saying like it's a bad game
@@MrConnman123 writing and story are miles better in the DS port too.
@@raphaelmartins6529 writing is terrible in wii version, DS version really improves on writing.
@@taffyistrashy the DS version has a better story, but a good game is not about only the story. Sonic Colors for Wii is really good.
Actually, I think that Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure are better than Colors DS.
This is beautiful. I grew up watching my dad play the Adventure games. Sonic X was my favorite source of Sonic media, along with the comics, I was obsessed. Sonic Heroes was also the first Sonic game I ever played myself. Thank you for making such a heartfelt video. It made me think back on all of the memories I've had with the franchise, which was so important to my childhood, and that I will always hold close to my heart.
(Fun Fact: About 5 years ago in my Intercultural Communications class in Community College we had to choose an icon and describe why it's iconic... It's pretty obvious who I chose.)
In the point of your video, Sonic is definitely a character who works best with a story. Being a Sonic fan since I was four and being able to play most of the games on the GameCube or DS up until 06, the Sonic lore was pretty consistent. With the core story being Sonic 1, CD*, 2, 3&K, Adventure 1, Adventure 2, Heroes, and Shadow. (A2-ShTH being Shadow's Trilogy Arc and a variety of spin-off arcade, portable and console adventures sprinkled throughout.) *CD's placement is also debatable.
While I myself never completed 06 (since I never owned it...at least I think I didn't), to my understanding it had a very ambitious story. Up until that point, Sonic was pretty "Shonen". (Thanks GamerGuyd).
While the game-play improved with Unleashed (with one of the BEST intros of the entire franchise) think this is where the cracks in the story started to show. It's hard to describe but since Unleashed nothing in the Sonic series has had any consequence to its world. It's like its rules reset each time a new story is told. Colors was fun but nothing mattered. GENERATIONS was REALLY fun but unless you follow the theory that it created a new timeline which Sonic Mania takes place than it's just another adventure. Lost World? Just another adventure. Sonic Mania leads into Sonic Forces and I guess that's something, but the trailers gave the facade that Sonic Forces was gonna have an ambitious status quo changing story but.... it was just another adventure!
Don't get me wrong, episodic adventures can be great. I'm watching Lupin III right now and every episode has a new situation for the lovable gang of characters which they can handle in 30 minutes.
Games though are much more cinematic and even if information isn't being exposited in a cutscene, the levels should be visual enough to tell the story and make you ask questions. Even though the Genesis classics had little story the levels were so full of life that it gave the player an idea of the environmental narrative.
With cartoons and comics, those were great ways to answer many of the questions the games had and expand on their ideas even if some ideas were goofier than others. God Bless Ian Flynn for masterfully matching elements of different Sonic continuities in the comics so seemlessly.
I forgot what I was trying to say... as is usually the case with these long comments. I guess what I'm saying is Sonic games WERE a great way to tell the Sonic story and therefore CAN be AGAIN.... It just needs more consistent world building with re-occurung characters that actually TALK TO EACH OTHER! Stop resetting the world and character dynamics each game! Stop Retro Pandering! Give Explanations to Sonic's world!
Sonic's game lore from 91-06 (as well as Archieverse from 160 onwards) was in my opinion the most intriguing years of Sonic mythos where everything in previous games had some weight in the next. While that can come back, that's gone (thanks to Pontac and Graff... though they're gone now?)
But like you said, with the GORGEOUS IDW-Comics and the HEARTWARMING Feature Film, there is a lot of potential new lore for fans to attach to.
I just hope that they're able to balance lore that was established and still make it work with the movie series' story telling.
I'm gonna disagree about boom nearly killing the franchise that's 06, boom has gone down in history as another bad Sonic game, 06 is talked about to this day just how terrible it is and how it hurt Sonic's credibility.
*cough cough* Sonic 06 is also known as the game that's being given a second chance and is being remade by a fan *cough cough*
we don't see ANYBODY doing that with the Sonic Boom games.
@Matthew Kuhn 👍
Mania “just a game”, 06 “my favourite game ever” great taste dude;//
I was so happy with how well the Movie Sonic turned out, as I was dismayed by some fans who can only imagine the games's plots being transplanted into the movies. My opinion is, it's going to be hard enough to make a sequel that tops it, but having their creativity constrained by having to tell a story that has already been told, that's gonna make it impossible. The characters are great, focus on them, not on plot devices like Death Eggs or Chaos Emeralds.
While I don't agree with everything you're saying, I think I can at least understand what you mean.
But I disagree that the cartoons are the reason people keep coming back for the games, since those audiences from my experience tend to be very different (although I'm sure they've encouraged people to check the games out if they never have).
The reason people keep coming back for the games is the hope of getting another game that gives them a similar special feeling they've felt from the games they've liked before.
Not nostalgia, but more like a continuation and understanding of the games they loved (think what Mario Odyssey did for fans of M64 and Sunshine).
If I'm to be honest I don't think games like Colours and Generations was Sonic getting back on track, especially since they were ignoring massive instrumental elements that made the legacy of their game series so special.
Generations was a nice little trip down memory lane with good level design, visuals and sweet remixes...but what do you do afterwards when you can no longer lean on that?
From the moment they started going in the direction of Sonic Colours "Cartoon blue hedgehog made for dumb kids", they threw away their foundation and direction the Sonic series had prior (ignoring spin-offs, which in hindsight even they understood Sonic more than the 2010s games).
And set their priorities to please the game critics, and if you know game reviewers and Sonic...most (if not all) clearly don't like the series and are just harping on it because it's a fun punchbag.
All I'm saying is, if you look at all of the defining aspects of most 2010s Sonic games, they've been done with game reviewers/other outsider opinions in mind, with Sonic fans expected to shut it and soak up the references to the games they actually love.
Despite this, these same people (including SEGA) whenever asked why Sonic games have struggled in the 2010s.
Their answers are: it's 3D Sonic (despite the fact there hasn't been a 3D Sonic game since 2008's Unleashed, it's just been 2D games with "3D" sections at most), it's the storytelling aspect itself "that doesn't belong in a platformer" (even though the last game to really have this was 2009's spin off Black Knight, since 2010 it's been 'self-aware' sitcoms at best), and of course it's because of games like Sonic 06 (when there hasn't been a game that resembles Sonic 06 since 2006, outside of 1 level in 1 game where the "city is on fire").
So yeah, blaming games from 14 years ago as to why the 2010 games weren't that interesting.
If I'm to be honest, the Sonic Boom game was inevitable.
It was a bunch of CEOs sitting in a room, thinking "what would kids of today like from animal mascot game".
With Big Red Button showing up with a Jak & Daxter spiritual successor pitch at the wrong time.
Sorry for that essay.
Here's a TL;DR.
If you ask me, it almost doesn't matter which form of media it is.
Sonic is a character that can transcend different media, it's about how it's executed and written (an understanding).
Like some games badly handle the Sonic characters (mainly 2010s), but games with writers on-board like Shiro Maekawa tend to hit the right spots.
I still dream of a PROPER anime adaptation of the Sonic Adventure games, that doesn't just treat it as a dumb kids show.
Y'know, like one of those series where you need to see what happens next after every episode.
I guess the best example I can come up with is Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works (based off a Visual Novel, it's really good).
They messed up the first time round with studio Deen, then they came back with Ufotable and went all in to make it one of the best Visual Novel anime adaptations they could.
If they did that with the Sonic Adventure stories, no half bakes or half-hearted attempts.
I genuinely believe it would do a lot of good for the series, proving why people liked these characters and stories to begin with and introducing new people.
I feel like most Fans don't get this, while yes the gameplay was really fun in colors, the storytelling was just uggh. How can anybody say these stories were good?! Like characters just stand around and make crappy jokes, no character development, no high stakes, no good banter between the characters, no relationships, no REAL threat. NO NOTHING, and some of these so called FaNs say this is the direction the series should go. People keep saying that the classics were simple and has no storytelling even though the classics HAS stories in them. Just with little cutscenes with no voice acting but the stories were still there, and the adventure games just built on the stories the genisis games has set up. Sonic was always meant be something more than just bobbing on batniks heads and the the "CrItIcS" and people that do not know anything about the franchise CLEARLY don't get that
@@superhedgehog6447 110% Agree.
While Colours isn't technically and Objectively bad, like Lost World it's not really a Sonic game.
If anything it feels like Bubsy's spiritual return...like Bubsy has possessed Sonic.
And yeah, the megadrive Classics were always gearing towards Sonic storytelling and characters with depth, but they had their hands tied.
The best example has to be Sonic 3&Knuckles, there's a lot more attention to detail with the environments to make them feel like places that exist in Sonic's world, and there's a story that's being unfolded between Knuckles/Sonic/Eggman as you play through, and there's a lot of Action set-pieces and spectacle that tie into the story and places.
Games like Colours have non of that, not even the amusement park feels like an amusement park of sorts, it's just a barren deserted place you run through.
And the level design isn't really creative with it's stage themes and settings, it's arbitrary.
I'll just say this, Twinkle Park from Sonic Adventure has way more theme park setpieces and creative ideas related to a theme-park; than the entirety of Sonic Colours' stages (not saying they're bad though).
"Whenever Sonic is put in a video game, it almost puts the entire franchise on the line."
The truth hurts way more than I thought it ever could
Nobody:
SpeedSuperSonic: time to write a speech about why Sonic is an Icon
“I wasn’t even alive for Sonic Adventure 2” wow, that was a bombshell for me, I had no idea you were younger than me, even if it is by just a year or so.
My list of favorite Sonic shows goes like this
5.Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
4.Sonic Boom
3.Sonic X
2. Sonic Underground
1.Sonic SATAM
While I agree with you that having Sonic in TV, movies, and comics has allowed more creativity and worlds to be opened up: that is not the reason why Sonic is failing as a video game character.
The reason the games are mediocre nowadays is because Sega/Sonic Team (honestly not sure which one is to blame here. Possibly both) just don't care. You said it yourself they opened up Sonic's world in the Adventure games, and continued to do so in games like Unleashed. The only issue is how they execute it. Lost Wold and Forces are linier at best. They are simple. The vast openness of Sonic's world has been closed off. I understand with Colours and Generations being simpler - sometimes you just need those games that have "smaller" stories that don't need to take place on this bigger grander adventure. Lost World and Forces have no excuse. They are clearly games designed with a bigger story in mind, but it's not implemented properly. That's where the games are failing.
And don't get me started on them hiring terrible writers and level designers with no experience on Sonic games. Otherwise we'd be here all day.
Sonic the movie is coming out early on VOD on March 31. Maybe you could host a viewing party online ?
Awesome vid and I hope you have a great day and keep up the great work
Used to be a Mario fan until I learned more about Sonic
That was really cool, and makes a lot of sense, because I have been a casual (and now less casual) fan of Sonic for a long time, and that was never because of the video games, because we had no access to a console (other than an old wii) in my family. I was a fan because of the fantastic character writing in the Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and only later when I was an adult did I get the chance to play the original 3 games on mobile. I also just prefer cartoons and comics to video games anyway. The reason I’ve stuck with this franchise is because of how memorable the characters are, and that’s basically it.
(Also you mentioned that you’re a storyteller?? That’s awesome! And this is my favourite channel for getting Sonic content from, there’s not lots of swearing so I don’t have to worry if kids are nearby, and it’s very practical and straightforward).
Sonic can be, anything the character has just been missed used for years..
Sonic boom was utterly the worst sonic the hedgehog cartoon/game ever look what they did to my boy knuckles he’s so dumb now 🤦♂️
I agree especially about knux
Yeah I can't understand the love for the show, it represents everything wrong with how the writing and characters have been treated recently...in my opinion.
Idk i love sonic boom
Its just a different dimension sonic
Knuckles is the funniest too
Yeah, I don’t like Sonic Boom. It doesn’t even have the chaos emeralds in it. At least not in season 1. Haven’t watched season 2. Sonic X was *by far* a better show than Boom and even X had its flaws.
I’ve always hated that about Boom. Knuckles terrible design and they made him so dumb.
It’s not even April Fools yet!
6:53 I hate him too. The human centric stories are overwhelming. We need to focus on the protagonist no matter the animal. Just cuz hes a Hedgehog doesn’t mean people will get confused or nit like it
"Sonic the Hedgehog is an icon" Yeah I think Disney got the right idea here, they literally gave Sonic a lot of cameos doing ads n shit in just the first Wreck It Ralph 😂.
I can’t believe I almost cried while watching this it’s that damn piano in the background isn’t it god
saga knows how to make good characters and stories they just don't seem to know how to make them play in a game environment anymore.
I respect your opinion, but I don't agree that Sonic was carried by Sonic X. I think you need to present sources for that affirmative. Sonic and the Secret Rings sold over 3 million copies on the Wii, Sonic Unleashed sold almost 5 million copies, too. The DS Rush games sold about 3 million copies each one, and Sonic Generation has sold 3,8 million copies. According to Sega, Sonic franchise has sold over 360 million copies of video game titles, the most of this number comes from 3D and modern games.
I don't think none of these games are bad. Secret Rings has a different approach on the gameplay, but it's a spin off game. I understand why some people dislike it, but it's not a bad game. The level designs are great, the boss battles, too, the levels have some of the most awesome themes of the entire franchise, the graphics and the soundtrack are amazing for 2007, too. Sonic and the Black Knight, the sequel, it's a very underrated game, too. It has issues with the Wii motion controls, but is still a very enjoyable experience and it's an evolution from the Secret Rings. The graphics are even better, the levels themes, too, and the story it's one of the best written in the entire franchise.
Sonic Unleashed divided opinions, but it's a very popular game among fans, too. Also, IGN and other portals gave it really unfair grades on their reviews. You can tell that people don't agree with Sonic Unleashed being a bad game when you see that IGN review has 10k dislikes and less than 1k likes, the grades from the players on the Metacritic are higher and it has good grades on Xbox Live and PSN Store, too.
Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 2006, Sonic 4, Sonic Free Riders and the Sonic Boom trilogy are unquestionably bad games, but if we put on a balance, Sega has released more good games than bad ones over the years.
I agree with you that Sonic Boom games are terrible. They are the only Sonic games I never wanted to buy and I don't regret it. But I think you are overestimating the impact of these titles. You said that they almost killed the franchise. The Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric was released exclusively on the Wii U, one of the most unpopular Nintendo console of all time. The game has sold only 400k copies. The 3DS ones still had sold even worst, Fire & Ice sold less than 50k copies. Probably, it's the Sonic game with the weakest sales of all time.
That means that only a few people have played this games. The general audience doesn't even know they existed. They only remember Sonic Boom from the TV show, and from the comic books. These two were successful at that time.
Also, Sonic Heroes it's not inferior to the Adventure games. It's a very gringy game and has strange physics in some stages, but it's still a good title. If we compare Sonic Heroes with the first Adventure, Heroes has less flaws.
If you don't like Sonic games and think the franchise don't need them anymore, I think you are not talking for the whole fanbase. Sonic is a multimedia character. That means some people are fans because of multiple reasons or products they consume, but the Sonic games still have a lot of fans.
The last main titles did let the fans down (Sonic Forces and Team Sonic Racing), but this doesn't mean that if Sega released a better game, it will not have success and sell better. Actually, Sonic Forces had strong sales even with it isn't a great Sonic game.
Raphael Martins bruh do u even listen to the guy, he addressed why he would be speaking a bit negatively at the start of the video stupid. He literally said that he isn’t saying that sonic games are bad and they shouldn’t be making more. Next time before criticizing, listen.
@@naveenkarthikeyan4744, I listened to the entire video. He said Sonic was carried by Sonic X the whole decade. Even if Sonic games sold well almost the whole time. I don't agree with it, and there's no source of that affirmative.
According to Sega, video games are the more strong pillar of Sonic franchise, not the cartoons or comics.
It's half and half for me
I think the only reason this may seem to be true is because the games don’t have the same love that the cartoons/movie does.
It’s so good to hear of a fan who likes sonic 06😭
Sonic unleashed is actually a pretty good game and the cartoon argument because that animated opening got me hyped and hooked on sonic.
sonic never had a dark age
The reason why the movie design is better is because HIS EYES ARENT CONNECTED. But seriously his personality is much more clearer in the movie.
Almost all your vids touch my heart, keep on being a sonic fan
To be honest the sonic movie is my favorite piece of sonic media but I still like almost all pieces of sonic media
Love the vids
Although I agree with you, Sonic will always be a video game character and honestly I would never want them to stop making sonic games or putting the comics over the games in terms of effort, although I 100% think they need to improve the story
Hello fellow Sonic 06 lover. Sonic should be anime in my eyes
A GOOD anime 😉...
Not saying Sonic X was bad, but it could've been a lot better.
Nah, tokusatsu is cooler
The Sonic Boom 3DS games were better than Rise of Lyric. You skipped over those two titles, they weren't the best, but they were still really good, and had some really good material in them. Sonic Games should stick around, but he also shouldn't be a cartoon character, as Sega can't make these games as fast as they used to. Sonic Team has basically been ripped apart, and they can't get the people they need to make a truly good game. Mania is a perfect example of hiring people outside of the company to do something great, and maybe Sega should stick to that for awhile so they can get the people they need to make good games.
HE IS A FRIKKIN VIDEO GAME CHARACTER!
I’d honestly love to see a new Sonic series from either the team behind Avatar and Voltron or Ciro Nieli, the guy behind the 2012 TMNT series as well as Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go (strange title, yes, but good series honestly)
I want a new action/adventure Sonic cartoon series like Sonic X with all the cast of characters.
I've seen everything from the very beginning and I totally agree with everything you've said. Sonic has been successful in other forms of media and It would be a good idea for Sega to continue to go into that direction for the character. In fact, I remember Sega stating back in 2011 that they wanted Sonic to be a (quote) "entertainment character" and like all business ventures, it takes years to see a result... I'm just glad to see a younger generation of fans such as yourself look at it from this perspective. Fantastic video
Me: I woold mix Sonic SATAM with Sonic skyline.
has an avid Sonic the hedgehog fan I completely agree with you but that will not stop me from buying every single game that has ever released of Sonic the hedgehog good or bad I will play all of them with a smile on my face just knowing that blue boy go fast
I first played a Sonic game when I was 10.
But years before then, probably starting when I was 4, I watched all 3 of the 90s cartoons which were still being aired on repeat. I loved the cartoons more than the games, because during my childhood, I saw games like Unleashed and Secret Rings and thought they looked weird. And when I first got into the series, the stuff I owned was Sonic X themed, because it was still popular even in 2010.
I always thought Mighty was Sonic's relative. This is after playing Chaotix on the Sega 32X
Mario is built off *play.*
Sonic is built off *appeal.*
Ya know, I’ve got a large amount of respect for Sonic. I just got here to the franchise, so I can’t say I share any fond memories of the games, as I haven’t played any. *Yet.* But I have seen Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, SatAM, and Sonic Underground. They were probably some of my favorite shows as a small kid, right up there with Pokemon and everything on PBS Kids. They were already old when I got to them, but I still loved them. Afterwards though, I just kinda forgot about Sonic. I had two comic books, and I know them from front to back, but other than that I never was into Sonic. Then this movie came out, and now I can’t stop thinking about him. Thanks Paramount.
You know what’s incredible? Despite all of the shit Sonic has been dragged through, he always manages to get back up again. Sonic himself said it best, “What can I say? I die hard!” Thanks to this movie, I feel like Sonic is pulling himself out of his most recent pitfall and ya know what? I think he’ll be up and rolling around at the speed of sound before ya know it!
Congrats, stranger! You’ve read my entire comment! Have a cookie and my quote of the week. 🍪
“I just couldn’t seem to die.”
- Hamilton the musical
To admit Sonic 06 is your favorite game takes guts. Props to you man. Also, I liked Rise of Lyric, the homing attack was getting pretty old.(I still love it tho)
If Sega get better writers and start giving a shit. I think Sonic could be a better Video Game character. But otherwise you are right.
Ricardo, do you think the sonic movie will still get a sequel despite it already coming to dvd and digital a month after release?
As a fellow fan of Sonic, I greatly appreciate and enjoy your videos man!
I agree but I think that the best way to make sonic better is if sega started caring like they did back when the older sonic games were made.
Sonic CD was a classic game.
Just started loving Sonic and becoming a genuine fan when the Sonic Mania Trailer came out. I'm a cartoon junkie and watching that trailer made me feel something. It made me feel happy beyond belief and I knew from that time on it's something I wanna get into. Sonic Boom TV series made it all the better for me, plus the IDW comics, the movie drag me even more into the fandom and strangely enough I got pulled into the Sonamy community. And now I'm starting to have a collection of this little blue guy's merchandises, and I just started like 2 1/2 years ago into this fandom XD So far I'm loving everything about the Sonic franchise despite its pitfalls. And oh my GOD the music!!! Every song that came out of this franchise is such a mood booster.
FINALLY I FOUND YOU. Sonic only has a messed up timeline because they try new things. So when people don’t know where the games take place, wether Earth or Mobius. Its about the story rather than the planet you helped me find this. They needed to move forward and make things betyer
Sonic as a concept, is better in the games
Can't Sonic be BOTH a great video game and cartoon character?! I mean, look at the success Pokemon had!
When you said "I wasn't even alive for Sonic Adventure 2"... it kinda hit me a bit hard because of how old you look now.
I was 9 when I first played Sonic Adventure 2. That was considered "Modern Sonic" to a lot of plebs who can't tell the difference between Adventure and Modern. So it's super weird for someone to tell me they weren't alive at that time, like you just straight up didn't even exist when Shadow debuted. And yet you look, sound and act like someone who's the same age as me like our age difference means nothing now. It's just super weird to think about. You weren't a little kid. You weren't dead. you just weren't alive. I guess when I hear that someone wasn't born yet for something I was alive for, I expect them to still be a kid. At least 14 years old. lol
I was a year old when the game came out but was never too interested in the Sonic series as my go-to was Ratchet & Clank and anythin' in the shooter genre from the Sony side.
Hey man have been making videos for next Friday in the summer sonic x review and a rant video of Chris
Great video I love your honest perspective and voice
The general audience or most non-Sonic fans probably don't even know that Sonic exist in other forms of media outside of videogames. They probably don't even know that Sonic has several animated shows, comics, TV appearances, etc. It always the games, especially the classic games that matters to them. The movie's success can bring more awareness to that, tho.
I remember going to a friends house in 2015 i think and seeing his copy of sonic heroes for xbox and being amazed. I had already played the game on gamecube before that point but I still wanted to play it with people besides my brother. So me and the friend took the game out to play it and we had a great time
just feel like I should share this memory here
Sonic Heroes and Shadow the hedgehog are my favorite games. Those games have some of the best character moments imo. I honestly love the large cast of characters
For the first time ever, I have finally found someone else of who likes sonic 06
Anybody remember sonic rivals
I ❤️ Silvaze and sonic 🎥 and also sonamy boom
Sonic is a better cartoon character then a video game I agree with you
And he looks more like a cartoon than a video gane character. His design was inspired by Mickey mouse and felix the cat. When i saw him for the first time i thought he was originally from a cartoon.
Facts me to
My first exposure to Sonic was Sonic X, never knew much but grew to love the characters (not chris) from that show. Then I got the Gameboy Advance game collection of Sonic 1 (I think it was, I can't remember, but that was my first exposure to his game) Then I reached out and played Sonic Zero Gravity and adore it for the race game that it was, it was different than mario kart.
Then I went to Sonic Unleashed, and oh man I wasn't into the whole thing, but recently I played that game again since the pandemic and all. I made a new file, and I've gotten way better percent or rather scores than my first gameplay of it and got to do things more swiftly, even as to take shortcuts in levels I never knew were there before. "Night of the Werehog" was one of the best things to ever have its own little cartoon short. (Also the other animations they made for that game was just great to connect with Sonic and Chip's adventure together)
Haven't played another Sonic title since, did play the Winter Olympics version (but that doesn't count) Got to play a bit of Sonic Racing Transformed, love how the course changes each round and the vehicles too. My dad rented Sonic Colors for me once, but I didn't like the story and on some occassions I looked past it and tried to give the game a shot, but then some cutscenes replay after each level I play, like reused content. So I stopped playing it after finishing the first world to the second half.. I've also tried the display game of Sonic Lost World from Target I believe and it felt odd to me since I was use to the controls Sonic had back on the older titles I played.
That's about it for me, my family and I enjoyed the Sonic Movie far more than Detective Pikachu. I've been watching Sonic Boom for what it had to offer but lost me for its connection. Did enjoy the short clips people share of it for its incredible humor tho.
The newer animated Sonic from Mania was big since we've never seen sonic handled with so much love and drawn in a way that flows like grace in a tea. (I love animations/cartoons) And the small spinoffs for each to be shared "Online" was just a big thank you to Sega.
Ever since the hype for Sonic Forces and seeing the reviews..It doesn't seem like Sonic anymore. The writing is way off and the overall story to it felt like a poor fanfic with forgotten aspects that has been given to the viewer. "Sonic is alive and is being tortured" only to see, Sonic is in handcuffs and throwing insults at someone, he's fine what are you talking about? It downgraded a lot of characters I was invested in, now they just seem like side characters and Sonic is just the annoying one, aside from tails whom I believe can do a lot more and a lot better on "his own".
Sega needs new writers, and needs to do better.
I don't think Sonic is a bad video game character. Sega has done some mistakes, but there's more Sonic 3D good games than bad ones. Actually, the only Sonic modern games that are unquestionably bad are Sonic 2006, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Free Riders and Sonic Boom series. Almost every Sonic game has a high production value and are at least on the average of the genre quality. People are too negative when it comes to Sonic. They complain about Sonic having stories, about Sonic driving cars or having green eyes. I don't understand. Sega has done a lot of mistakes on the franchise history, but this does not justify it.
Some people say Sonic Forces is a terrible game, worse than Sonic 2006. Actually, Sonic Forces is a weak game, but still on the average, it's not a bad game.
If Sonic weren't a good video game character, how has it sold over 360 million game copies? It doesn't make sense. Sonic is one of the biggest selling franchises of all time. The Sonic games series has never had a hiatus like other characters from the 90s and 00s had (Crash Bandicoot, Megaman, etc).
But I do agree with you that Sonic is an awesome cartoon characters or a multimedia character. This is because Sonic has a consistent personality. We can compare Sonic with Mario, Link or other video game characters that aren't. Mario and Link are mute characters. In games, it works well because facilitates the identification of players with them. It's based on a psychological and psychoanalytical concept called projection.
But, when you have to make a movie, a TV show, or a comic book series the character needs to have a personality. How would be a movie with a mute protagonist?
Nintendo tried to give voice to Samus Aran on the games Metroid Fusion and Metroid Other M. Samus originally is a mute character, too. The result was that people hated these games and Other M sold less than 500k copies making Nintendo put the Metroid franchise on the fridge for over 10 years.
The Sonic movie worked well because people are used to see Sonic speaking. People know that Sonic likes chili dogs, doesn't know how to swim and sometimes he's a bit over confident. But, what about Mario? People don't know these aspects about Mario's personality. They only know that Mario make noises and say catchphrases. Because of that, the future Mario animation movie is a mystery for me.
I totally agree with your opinion bro fer real....I alwayz loved Sonic since he was born.... idc what they do to him I'll always have a thing for him ;) kinda mad about what did they did to Knux tho in Sonic Boom N' yeah Sonic forces is ok LOL
Its always great to see another person that really enjoys sonic 06, sure its a mess at times, but honestly i really love it.
The reason why sonic does better outside of videogames is that sonic team is not involved
P.S. sonic team can and did really good games, but it feels like that they tired of sonic, but forced (not by sega but by themselves) to work on him, so they try to include new ideas to shake things up