It was a long, hard road back. Lots of rehab, and then a lot of work to get her skiing back to a high level again. But last weekend she became the first ever World Cup Downhill winner for the Norwegian Women's team. Kudos to Kajsa.
That comment's like writing an essay, lolz. Crash was strange, like she had been panicking with the screams - as if somebody on the side was screaming, no?? :))
Such an awful accident, saw it watching the event the other day. Actually just wanted to read comments or updates so I paused the vid. I don't want to see it again or hear her screaming. My heart goes out to her. Hope she recovers fast and good! Long hard rehab coming for that one! Best of luck to her!
That is horrific her leg twisted and fractured...her screams just got me. I hope she has had many surgeries and is well on the way to recovery..very brave young lady
I was in a severe motorcycle accident many years ago shattered my right hip, broke my femurs and several ribs. When I regained consciousness on the side of the road I couldn’t figure who was screaming so loudly. I feel for this young woman. May she heal quickly and thoroughly
A co worker of mine was also in a bad head on accident. He was pinned up under the dash/steering wheel and had to be cut out of the vehicle. Broke both legs in multiple places and an arm and still walks with a limp to this day. Apparently he was also screaming but his memory of the incident was he was annoyed because he thought someone else was screaming and he couldn't hear what his rescuers were saying. Odd how the body and brain copes with pain
My brother was in March and is now paralyzed in both legs and his left arm. He’s only 26 with a baby boy n I’m not gonna go into detail bc it’s hard for me but he said basically the same thing n couldn’t tel if he was hearing the emts or it was in his head. It’s rlly a miracle he’s alive. Trauma nurses were on their way to work n saw it. He got so lucky. And an accident happened after him in the same area where unfortunately the man passed. They said most accidents happen when it’s nice out n I can see it myself. Please me careful
@DivinityBleu She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth. After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
I snapped both bones in my upper arm in November doing a round off hand-spring tuck and this chilled me to the core hearing the way her arm snapped reminded me off when I heard my arm snap and also the fact her bones snapped and then with all the pressure from the fall I never thought I would be saying this but I was lucky to not have such a sever injuring. Almost everything that I heard and saw a couple of seconds ago just completely and utterly chills me to the core and the similar-ish situation I was in for example, the screaming, the bend leg (bent arm for my situation), the snapping sound, the panick in her voice and mine when it happened. My heart goes out too this girl. And remember everything gets better I just went to my second tumbling practice early today in 3 months and I hope she has a quick recovery!!!
that was horrific, thankfully she has recovered and had multiple surgeries on her left leg, first with metal plates which I think didn't work so well and so further surgeries using nails and screws!! her leg was badly smashed up. There are some photos on her instagram of her sitting up in a hospital bed showing off the surgery incisions on her leg and she looks well with a big happy smile on her face, strong girl, she got through it.
She wasn’t the only one that day around half hour after her being flown away another girl crashed, her skis never came off either, was a disastrous day
I think the fis needs to implement automatic-release-systems for the bindings. Maybe they could automatically release moments before the skier hits the net over some kind of wireless system. The weight-release systems are practically worthless in professional skiing as the athletes tend to tighten them to unthinkable tensions. Its heartbreaking to watch these kind of injuries and there must be a way to prevent them
I think the leg was gone before she hit the fence. look at the second replay. the fence surely did the rest. i dont follow ski and hope she recovered/is recovering.
Peter, while we are busy making skiing safer we could also make other sports safer as well. Here are some ideas. Limit race cars to 55mph. Baseball should pitch, hit, and catch basketballs. Bull riders could be restricted to riding calves. Bronc riders restricted to rocking horses. Proffesional swimmers could be required to use scuba gear. Boxers should be blindfolded. And most importantly, hockey should be played using brooms and nerf balls.
@@FRLN500 Gymnastics should be limited to cartwheels and handstands. No running in basketball. No tackling in football. And lastly, no cleats in any sports since they are a great danger to the athletes.
I think it's a great idea Peter. As a former Elec. Engineering major I can tell you that it can easily be done but likely won't due to cost and liability (if the system failed=lawsuit.) From a technical perspective, it could be as simple as when both ski poles are dropped micro switches in the handles triggers the release (Condition must equal both poles are dropped...just like an airbag won't go off under a specific prescribed speed and seat pressure value.) For context, we just landed on Mars. Now that was something- watch the landing sometime online. Bindings, yeah, we could figure that out.
I watched the race, saw it live, and wow, it wasn't pleasant to see. And something like 10-5 minutes after the race restarted, another girl, an austrian, Schneeberger, also screamed a lot and also broke her leg. By far the most violent race of the season, and I followed them all.
Dang.... snapped at the top of her boot when her ski dug into the ground. Then had to slide into the netting with a broken leg. I hope she recovered with no issues.
I know exactly what that feels like. I screamed even harder and longer until someone found me and straightened out my right leg. Torn ligaments. When the skis are set tight so they DON’T pop off, you stand a greater chance of ripping the knee ligaments apart. I paid to have mine set for a beginner(they pop off easy if I fall). But nope. They overtightened my right one. Get your skis adjusted right people. Mine wasn’t. I was just a recreational beginner skier.
Yes exactly! I tore my ACL clean in half in December after hitting black ice and my skis didn't pop off but got wedged into the ice which is why it tore. There was nobody on the same run as me either, so I screamed bloody murder for help.
This just happened to me two days ago. First time skiing in my life, I wasn’t even going fast. But my left ski got stuck in the snow and it didn’t pop off as I fell. I know now that they were too tight, but nobody told me! stupid. Now I have a torn ACL and I’m depressed af 😭 I know my knee will never be the same again and that makes me so sad. I’m crying as I write this. I just want my knee back 😢
@@leslisantana9116 I'm so sorry! My ski also got caught in the snow, and neither popped off. Bindings too tight. Hope yours isn't as awful as mine is. I tore mine all the way through.
I am sorry about your ACL but you are giving false information. Often the ACL is gone before you hit the ground. It's called the backwards twisting fall. The back of your boots act like a torque bar on your knee. Neither your heel nor toe piece will release because they are not designed to release in this type of fall. I know many people who have blown their ACL and binding setting had nothing to do with it. This is not my opinion; it has been written about in great length. Just google backward twisting falls ACL. It will come right up. Carving skies also do not help but that's another subject. It does not take much force to blow your ACL, less than it does to hold you safely in your ski. Stay centered on your ski, arms forward and don't lean back. Again, I am sorry for your injuries but if you are not a beginner and have your binding set low you will prerelease causing other injuries. I know multiple people who have blown their ACL without taking a fall. It happens easier than many think. I too have been injured without falling. When I was young ACL tears rarely happened, but broken legs did. I broke mine. We broke our legs because the binding sucked. They used to call the old bindings bear traps for a reason. We did not damage our knees much because the boots were often leather and very low. Even the plastic boots were short. As you increased the boot height you increased performance, but you also increased knee injuries. Yeah, I am old but still ski 40 plus days a year. I wish you all well. Take care
Time to invent a new way to release skis. I know they want them tight, but it’s getting stupid. There needs to be a way to know forces are being applied in the wrong direction and have a computer auto release the binding latches...something smarter
Haha, are you going to be funding this new development? Seems a little beyond the r&d budget of most manufacturers. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good concept, just not necessarily feasible. Also, wouldn’t want to be the guy testing the prototypes lol.
@@colinoxenham6124 zYou sound like the car manufacturers, back in the 60's, who told Ralph Nader that safer vehicles that didn't impale drivers caught in head-on collisions, were not feasible.
@@colinoxenham6124 Do you have any idea what kind of budgets apply to these manufacturers worldwide? It’s definitely feasible. Also, these things are tested in test environments years before anyone wears them. But yeah, if regulators decide that “this is THE binding” and is not open to innovation, there’s a bigger issue. Certainly in professional environments, having a coach stand by with a “release button” or applying smart algorithms to decide when someone is skiing and when someone is falling do seem to be valid options. If there are multiple sensors on a ski that indicate it’s upside down, how on earth can you justify that it stays on? It’s time our ski bindings get a bit more modern for the good of all.
OMG... I had to mute this because I couldn't bear to hear her screams of pain. :-( It's been almost a year since the crash - hopefully her recovery is going well.
I had a life altering dirt bike accident when my throttle stuck . Snapped my tibula and fibula in hald with a arterial bleed. Skin only holding my leg on. 1 year 6 surgery’s and 80 feeling left in my leg. I am lucky to here.
I know!!! I was like, wow, that’s got potential for disaster too! Similar thing happened to me. I crashed on the slopes and the ride on the back of the Ski Patrol snowmobile was scarier than my actual crash! I had my neck and back injured and he was like, “Hold on,” while we flew across the snow toward the medical area.
Argh gawd you can only imagine what she saw as she looked down at her leg. Probably more pure shock than pain in that moment. Downhill is so unbelievably hard core
Let's hope the injuries are such that orthopedic surgeons can fix it and she can rehab it sufficiently to safely return to the WC circuit for the 21-22 season. Let's wish her the determination to push through the tough rehab (been there, done that with knee replacement enough to return to skiing - not the same thing as injuring it ski racing, but enough to make me appreciate enough of the fraction of the process a top-level athlete has to get through to return successfully. Wish you strength and gumption to push through Kajsa
She underwent surgery yesterday. The fracture was re-composed and it seems that the ligament injury is not too severe. At present, 6 months before getting back on the skis. Good luck Kaisa, you're the rising star of speed disciplines, we want you back!
She will start training in about 6 months yes, successful surgery, I don’t know anything about Schneeberger but I’m guessing somewhat the same time if she didn’t get any more severe injuries
@@LeonX29 Rosina Schneeberger's injury is the same, fracture of the tibia and fibula, but with displacement, it is more serious. The injury occurs at the moment of colliding with the slalom door, in the video it is very impressive
Let's hope she's smart enough to realize she's out of her league and if she can walk correctly once again, opts to retire and just ski for fun but at a slow pace.
@@chrisslater4053 no this is her league, just a single crash wouldn’t be enough to mentally break a skier at this level, just wait and see, she’s already very good at speed disciplines and will be back. Fast paced skiing has its risks which all athletes know about. It’s high risk but they’re willing to risk it
This was more than an accident. Her bindings were set far too strongly. Technicians fault? Or was he told to set them at such a high DIN setting? If so by whom?
Oh mein Gott, das arme Mädchen. Aber Kajsa, einen so sympathisches und fröhliches Mädchen hat sich gut von der Verletzung erholt und ist wieder top im Weltcup.
Tensions on her ski connections must be set up a way over her body weight... Unfortunately so many professional skiers do that but risks are huge as we can see here... This whole season there are simply to many injuries and something must be changed to save these people....(maybe due to corona virus skiers didn’t practice enough or maybe there is to much ice on slopes...) Whish her a quick recovery...
“Too much ice on the slopes”?! I can tell you’ve never ski raced. They specifically salt the courses so they turn to ice so they don’t break down into ruts and bumps. It’s much safer to ski on an icy smooth course than a rutted out soft course. I used to say they could tip an ice rink up to make a hill and I could ski down it. With good ski technique, skiing ice is NBD. Sometimes I actually was skiing on ice; like see down into it actual ice. Ice is good. And yes, the DIN settings on bindings are much higher than for normal skiers. I had a clueless ski tech reset my bindings for my official weight and I couldn’t even skate to the lift without my skis popping off. My official weight setting was 8 but I skied at 11-12, so I had to find a screwdriver to reset them to normal. Commercial ski bindings max out at 14; but racers’ bindings (which are generally not sold to the public) max out at 23. The forces ski racers experience are far greater than for average skiers and it’s not good to have skis that pre-release at 90 mph. So racers need bindings with much higher max settings.
At this level skiing with the amount of force generated in the downhill, you basically are cranking your binding to the max. If you don’t, you run the risk of your skis coming of in a turn. And as someone said below me, you want ice on a course.because it stops ruts from forming in the turns. Racing courses are always salted to form ice.
Given the advances in torque meters and impact monitoring by digital sensors, is it not time for the binding manufscturers 0A to get digital with the release systems? Surely this would then be the way to have a dynamically adjusting DIN setting, as obviuosly at lower speeds the 23 DIN setting is way too stiff for the impact but then again you dont want to be too light for the highest speeds. I am glad to know that both this skier and the other Austrian competitor who faced a similar leg break induced by non-release are both on the road to recovery.
I doubt she was on 23. That’s the max setting that’s on a racer’s binding and they never use max settings. And that’s for the men. Most likely she was 14 or under. P.S., I’m not sure I would trust something electronic for skiing. It would have to be incredibly reliable. It’s a neat idea though. Lower settings automatically for lower speeds would be good.
You can't completely tell just from this that it will be career ending (huge risk though), I have seen some come back from even worse looking leg breaks.
@@alerey4363 She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth. After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
Looked like her ski bindings never released as her skis never broke off. Guess they were adjusted really tight so that they wouldn't inadvertently release during her run.
The coach, or the skier, should have an "eject" button to blow those skis off when it is obvious the skier has fallen. Coach could have it remotely, or skier could have a button to pound on their chest. It seems this would have been a nothing fall if the skis had come off before the fence. Same for other events like ski jumping. Too many legs have been twisted to destruction in circumstances where the coach or the skier had time to do something. The technology to design such a system, safely, must be available by now.
They barely come off now a days, I rarely fall and had a blow out several years back took months years to recover backs still not the same nor my knee, before the fat ski's, and with rear entry boots and parallel skiing you'd pop right out and your ski would stop even the length I use to ski on 215's. Some people think it's easier now but not me.
Her leg snapped far before the fence. It happens at 1:27 when she catches an edge, perhaps trying to slow down. Pause at 1:28 you can clearly see her tibia is snapped at a 90° angle. The header photo shows it too
@@christiegroves that has nothing to do with the skis, it has to do with your DIN setting is cranked up to high if your skis are not ejecting before enough force is applied to hurt yourself. Bindings have adjustable settings that depend on your size, weight, and how you ski. The range of the settings on bindings is pretty big, usually suitable for everyone from beginners to advanced skiers. You don't want skis releasing prematurely, but the only reason they wouldn't release before you hurt yourself is if the DIN setting was to high, or there is another issue with the bindings. But I've been skiing for 25 years, and my dad like 60 now, we have never gotten hurt as a result of skis not popping off
The problem is they can't have the skis release any sooner then they do. The amount of force applied to the skis when you are racing is insane. The bindings set need to be set high enough that they don't pop off when making turns(which you do see happen once in awhile). Problem is the force they are feeling from the skiis during a race like this is greater than what it takes to hurt yourself if it's applied at a non-favorable direction They make it look easy, but the amount of pounding your legs take when doing this is crazy, they cannot even use the majority of bindings on the market because the bindings do not have a high enough DIN setting for pro racing. During a fall, you would rather your skis on then off. Those suits are like Teflon, there is no slowing down during a slide, which at those speeds can be really bad as we see. But they are very useful for slowing yourself down. Alot of times you can use them during a slide to get you up, but unfortunately for her she was thrown to far back and couldn't correct in time to get up during the slide.
She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth. After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
Ouch her head hit that pole. It looked like they wrapped her in a body bag because how could she breathe without her head sticking out of that large duffle bag? She is really pretty in the photos I've seen. Looks like she suffered some broken bones. I cant figure out what caused her to crash on a straight-away it's almost like something was buried in the snow that stopped her ski's forward motion.
The netting and fencing still is the biggest issue. They need to find alternatives a solid fence with the ability to reduce energy transfer is required. Someone is going to get killed and then they will finally do something about it. Terrible I wish her a speedy recovery.
Hi ..people have got dead ..Gernot Reinstadler🙏🕯️🌹 got fatally injured from this very kind of crap.. but crashes ( of any kind - in any sport ) ) get advertising ratings🤑💰💲 .. I have to wonder if these incidents are not being caused on purpose 🤨.. so many incidents.. .too many .🤔.just my humble opinion.. ...she is so lucky she is not dead from this incident.. I hope she can even walk unassisted again after this horror crash.. 🛐.. . if this woman never skis competitively again ( or does any skiing again ) from these injuries♿.. I would guess a lawsuit towards someone ( maybe a number of someones💼⚖️🏛️ ) is very appropriate... poor woman .. I feel for her.. 🌹I pray she heals completely 🙏🛐🌹
I ride with "Prangers' Markers comp 180 for left and comp 200 for right, set to 130 for left and 140 and that's for slalom, and it pops out like a charm when I fall or smash the ski 90 degrees on the surface with the boot...I know it's world cup skiing (I got the skis and binds from a world cup skier and were serviced by one of the best in the world) but I always check and set up my own bindings after a couple of days of running, not long ago I even needed to glue the plate and the binds because every degree and feel counts! Will need to retire then soon, but anyways they're not for competition also 🤙👀
At least there were warnings on the title. Her screams are horrid to hear. Those skis are long lever arms torquing on a skiers legs during an accident. The athletes push themselves and their equipment beyond the limits on what may be a once-in-a-lifetime Olympics event for some of them. The body too is under extreme physical stresses well beyond what it is subject too in normal daily activities. At 60mph the vibrations and impacts are probably in the 1000lbs+ per sq inch on just the feet and ankles alone. I pray 🙏🏽for full recovery for her.
Her skis piont the same way throughout her crash - until she hits the safety fence.When she finally stops, one ski point in the proper direction, the other in the opposite direction, a firm hint at a severely broken leg (hence the screams). Now, refresh my memory: What are Safety Ski Bindings for? If they are set beyond max, you might as well bolt your boots to your skis, any 'safety' aspects are thrown out the window. Every skier has a set limit, depending on bone structure, weight and physical condition, and bindings should be set accordingly. Ignoring that is inviting career-ending injuries.
They’re set higher than for normal skiing; but they never max them out. Even at the World Cup level. Commercial ski bindings max at 14 and racer’s bindings max out at 23. I would guess for her weight she was set at 14-15 at most. Probably lower. My downhill skis were set at 13 and I’m a heavier person. So even for a woman at the WC level, I can’t see them maxing the bindings out.
Far too any women are injured in ski races. I am amazed that FIS hasn't been sued. There is something fundamentally wrong with the sport when so many of the best skiers in the world sustain serious injuries every season.
I do not understand why these people race with their bindings so tight. Like I get they don’t want to come out of their skis in a turn, but damn, they could be a little loose. They didn’t even come off when she hit the barrier and in my opinion should’ve come off when she first tumbled.
It was a long, hard road back. Lots of rehab, and then a lot of work to get her skiing back to a high level again. But last weekend she became the first ever World Cup Downhill winner for the Norwegian Women's team. Kudos to Kajsa.
Sounded like a BangBros video....
That was gut-wrenching, the screams so clear in that quiet peaceful air. It was difficult to watch but I surely admire the courage.
That comment's like writing an essay, lolz. Crash was strange, like she had been panicking with the screams - as if somebody on the side was screaming, no?? :))
@@ностромов No.
Almost sounded like a BangBros video
Such an awful accident, saw it watching the event the other day. Actually just wanted to read comments or updates so I paused the vid. I don't want to see it again or hear her screaming. My heart goes out to her. Hope she recovers fast and good! Long hard rehab coming for that one! Best of luck to her!
That is horrific her leg twisted and fractured...her screams just got me. I hope she has had many surgeries and is well on the way to recovery..very brave young lady
Those screams though, hope she has a successful repair and recovery and a return to racing.
after todays race we can finally say she had a great return🎉 so amazing to see her on the podium today
I was in a severe motorcycle accident many years ago shattered my right hip, broke my femurs and several ribs. When I regained consciousness on the side of the road I couldn’t figure who was screaming so loudly. I feel for this young woman. May she heal quickly and thoroughly
It's not about you man.
Who was screaming? You? Lol
A co worker of mine was also in a bad head on accident. He was pinned up under the dash/steering wheel and had to be cut out of the vehicle. Broke both legs in multiple places and an arm and still walks with a limp to this day. Apparently he was also screaming but his memory of the incident was he was annoyed because he thought someone else was screaming and he couldn't hear what his rescuers were saying. Odd how the body and brain copes with pain
My brother was in March and is now paralyzed in both legs and his left arm. He’s only 26 with a baby boy n I’m not gonna go into detail bc it’s hard for me but he said basically the same thing n couldn’t tel if he was hearing the emts or it was in his head. It’s rlly a miracle he’s alive. Trauma nurses were on their way to work n saw it. He got so lucky. And an accident happened after him in the same area where unfortunately the man passed. They said most accidents happen when it’s nice out n I can see it myself. Please me careful
@@technicalachievements4833 don't be a douche. He's using his own experience to empathize with her.
I cannot even begin to imagine the pain and agony!!! 🙏🏼
Oh god that was nasty !
I really do hope she recovers.
Horrible, horrible injury.
@DivinityBleu She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth.
After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
I snapped both bones in my upper arm in November doing a round off hand-spring tuck and this chilled me to the core hearing the way her arm snapped reminded me off when I heard my arm snap and also the fact her bones snapped and then with all the pressure from the fall I never thought I would be saying this but I was lucky to not have such a sever injuring. Almost everything that I heard and saw a couple of seconds ago just completely and utterly chills me to the core and the similar-ish situation I was in for example, the screaming, the bend leg (bent arm for my situation), the snapping sound, the panick in her voice and mine when it happened. My heart goes out too this girl. And remember everything gets better I just went to my second tumbling practice early today in 3 months and I hope she has a quick recovery!!!
There is only ONE bone in your upper arm (humerus). Radius and ulna are paired in the lower arm
Surgery went well, come august she will be back in full training.
Unfortunately no
She won downhill in Kvitfjell to day. What a come back.
that was horrific, thankfully she has recovered and had multiple surgeries on her left leg, first with metal plates which I think didn't work so well and so further surgeries using nails and screws!! her leg was badly smashed up. There are some photos on her instagram of her sitting up in a hospital bed showing off the surgery incisions on her leg and she looks well with a big happy smile on her face, strong girl, she got through it.
She wasn’t the only one that day around half hour after her being flown away another girl crashed, her skis never came off either, was a disastrous day
OMG that was freaking painful. If I saw that correctly, she twisted and broke her leg. Hope she is ok.
Broken leg is better than ripped ligaments; hopefully she doesn’t have that as well. Wishing her a speedy recovery.
Her ankle looked like rubber I think she fractured her ankle
Omg, the screams! :-(
Wow! Hope she has a full recovery! Dang that was brutal! 😔
She is back again! To the top of the podium! Awesome recovery!
I think the fis needs to implement automatic-release-systems for the bindings. Maybe they could automatically release moments before the skier hits the net over some kind of wireless system. The weight-release systems are practically worthless in professional skiing as the athletes tend to tighten them to unthinkable tensions. Its heartbreaking to watch these kind of injuries and there must be a way to prevent them
I think the leg was gone before she hit the fence. look at the second replay. the fence surely did the rest. i dont follow ski and hope she recovered/is recovering.
Peter, while we are busy making skiing safer we could also make other sports safer as well. Here are some ideas. Limit race cars to 55mph. Baseball should pitch, hit, and catch basketballs. Bull riders could be restricted to riding calves. Bronc riders restricted to rocking horses. Proffesional swimmers could be required to use scuba gear. Boxers should be blindfolded. And most importantly, hockey should be played using brooms and nerf balls.
@@FRLN500 Gymnastics should be limited to cartwheels and handstands. No running in basketball. No tackling in football. And lastly, no cleats in any sports since they are a great danger to the athletes.
I think it's a great idea Peter. As a former Elec. Engineering major I can tell you that it can easily be done but likely won't due to cost and liability (if the system failed=lawsuit.) From a technical perspective, it could be as simple as when both ski poles are dropped micro switches in the handles triggers the release (Condition must equal both poles are dropped...just like an airbag won't go off under a specific prescribed speed and seat pressure value.)
For context, we just landed on Mars. Now that was something- watch the landing sometime online. Bindings, yeah, we could figure that out.
Saw this on tv brutal fall hopefully she will recover from this ❤️🇨🇦
I applaud the first responders who are out there taking care of the injured skiers.
I hope and pray she is doing okay- so tragic.
In spectacular style, hope she recovers ok.
I watched the race, saw it live, and wow, it wasn't pleasant to see.
And something like 10-5 minutes after the race restarted, another girl, an austrian, Schneeberger, also screamed a lot and also broke her leg.
By far the most violent race of the season, and I followed them all.
Dang.... snapped at the top of her boot when her ski dug into the ground. Then had to slide into the netting with a broken leg. I hope she recovered with no issues.
I know exactly what that feels like. I screamed even harder and longer until someone found me and straightened out my right leg. Torn ligaments.
When the skis are set tight so they DON’T pop off, you stand a greater chance of ripping the knee ligaments apart. I paid to have mine set for a beginner(they pop off easy if I fall). But nope. They overtightened my right one.
Get your skis adjusted right people. Mine wasn’t. I was just a recreational beginner skier.
Yes exactly! I tore my ACL clean in half in December after hitting black ice and my skis didn't pop off but got wedged into the ice which is why it tore. There was nobody on the same run as me either, so I screamed bloody murder for help.
This just happened to me two days ago. First time skiing in my life, I wasn’t even going fast. But my left ski got stuck in the snow and it didn’t pop off as I fell. I know now that they were too tight, but nobody told me! stupid. Now I have a torn ACL and I’m depressed af 😭 I know my knee will never be the same again and that makes me so sad. I’m crying as I write this. I just want my knee back 😢
@@leslisantana9116 me too:( the doc i visited said he had seen already 8 people with torn acl that day and it was only 11 am. hope you recover well
@@leslisantana9116 I'm so sorry! My ski also got caught in the snow, and neither popped off. Bindings too tight. Hope yours isn't as awful as mine is. I tore mine all the way through.
I am sorry about your ACL but you are giving false information. Often the ACL is gone before you hit the ground. It's called the backwards twisting fall. The back of your boots act like a torque bar on your knee. Neither your heel nor toe piece will release because they are not designed to release in this type of fall. I know many people who have blown their ACL and binding setting had nothing to do with it. This is not my opinion; it has been written about in great length. Just google backward twisting falls ACL. It will come right up. Carving skies also do not help but that's another subject. It does not take much force to blow your ACL, less than it does to hold you safely in your ski. Stay centered on your ski, arms forward and don't lean back. Again, I am sorry for your injuries but if you are not a beginner and have your binding set low you will prerelease causing other injuries. I know multiple people who have blown their ACL without taking a fall. It happens easier than many think. I too have been injured without falling. When I was young ACL tears rarely happened, but broken legs did. I broke mine. We broke our legs because the binding sucked. They used to call the old bindings bear traps for a reason. We did not damage our knees much because the boots were often leather and very low. Even the plastic boots were short. As you increased the boot height you increased performance, but you also increased knee injuries. Yeah, I am old but still ski 40 plus days a year. I wish you all well. Take care
Time to invent a new way to release skis. I know they want them tight, but it’s getting stupid. There needs to be a way to know forces are being applied in the wrong direction and have a computer auto release the binding latches...something smarter
Haha, are you going to be funding this new development? Seems a little beyond the r&d budget of most manufacturers. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good concept, just not necessarily feasible. Also, wouldn’t want to be the guy testing the prototypes lol.
@@colinoxenham6124 zYou sound like the car manufacturers, back in the 60's, who told Ralph Nader that safer vehicles that didn't impale drivers caught in head-on collisions, were not feasible.
@@colinoxenham6124 Do you have any idea what kind of budgets apply to these manufacturers worldwide? It’s definitely feasible. Also, these things are tested in test environments years before anyone wears them. But yeah, if regulators decide that “this is THE binding” and is not open to innovation, there’s a bigger issue. Certainly in professional environments, having a coach stand by with a “release button” or applying smart algorithms to decide when someone is skiing and when someone is falling do seem to be valid options. If there are multiple sensors on a ski that indicate it’s upside down, how on earth can you justify that it stays on? It’s time our ski bindings get a bit more modern for the good of all.
I'm sure no body has or is working on it. Ski manufacturers are only interested in watching injury and death.
@@Acer113 I totally agree.
OMG... I had to mute this because I couldn't bear to hear her screams of pain. :-( It's been almost a year since the crash - hopefully her recovery is going well.
Why didn't the skis release from the bindings ?! I've fallen with a lot less impact and my skis were miles away.
Maybe it's too dangerous at those speeds... they become lances flying at 80mph+, I guess?
Their DINS are set higher due to the forces they generate to avoid premature release .
@@johngummer6965 yes, to prevent almost ANY release. Just as dangerous to lose a ski at 80 mph prior to a fall as to keep them on after.
@@Osnosis Absolutely !
I had a life altering dirt bike accident when my throttle stuck . Snapped my tibula and fibula in hald with a arterial bleed. Skin only holding my leg on. 1 year 6 surgery’s and 80 feeling left in my leg. I am lucky to here.
OW! I have had many injuries skiing. This is NOT what I watch ski racing for. I hope she is recovering well.
The skis needed to come off fast but the final crash looked painful
With today's technology, there clearly has to be a better catch net system?
Man, that airlift looks more dangerous than the skiing. Yikes!
I know!!! I was like, wow, that’s got potential for disaster too!
Similar thing happened to me. I crashed on the slopes and the ride on the back of the Ski Patrol snowmobile was scarier than my actual crash! I had my neck and back injured and he was like, “Hold on,” while we flew across the snow toward the medical area.
Argh gawd you can only imagine what she saw as she looked down at her leg. Probably more pure shock than pain in that moment. Downhill is so unbelievably hard core
Let's hope the injuries are such that orthopedic surgeons can fix it and she can rehab it sufficiently to safely return to the WC circuit for the 21-22 season. Let's wish her the determination to push through the tough rehab (been there, done that with knee replacement enough to return to skiing - not the same thing as injuring it ski racing, but enough to make me appreciate enough of the fraction of the process a top-level athlete has to get through to return successfully. Wish you strength and gumption to push through Kajsa
She underwent surgery yesterday. The fracture was re-composed and it seems that the ligament injury is not too severe. At present, 6 months before getting back on the skis.
Good luck Kaisa, you're the rising star of speed disciplines, we want you back!
She will start training in about 6 months yes, successful surgery, I don’t know anything about Schneeberger but I’m guessing somewhat the same time if she didn’t get any more severe injuries
@@LeonX29 Rosina Schneeberger's injury is the same, fracture of the tibia and fibula, but with displacement, it is more serious. The injury occurs at the moment of colliding with the slalom door, in the video it is very impressive
Let's hope she's smart enough to realize she's out of her league and if she can walk correctly once again, opts to retire and just ski for fun but at a slow pace.
@@chrisslater4053 no this is her league, just a single crash wouldn’t be enough to mentally break a skier at this level, just wait and see, she’s already very good at speed disciplines and will be back. Fast paced skiing has its risks which all athletes know about. It’s high risk but they’re willing to risk it
Wish her the best out come
Broken left fibula and tibia.
Such a awful, awkward fall with her legs overlapping. Awful.
Horrible. I hope the best of recoveries to this racer.
Damn that sucks.
Agreed.
I greatly admire the courage of women in competitive skiing and snowboarding and bobsledding.
Was she OK? What a terrible fall.
Medics on slopes always seem to take their time getting to the injured person. I’m like, hell!
This was more than an accident. Her bindings were set far too strongly. Technicians fault? Or was he told to set them at such a high DIN setting? If so by whom?
That was a year ago, is she now ok?
😳poor girl hope she has a fast recovery
Bindings were up too tight. Skis are supposed to pop off during a crash.
Oh mein Gott, das arme Mädchen. Aber Kajsa, einen so sympathisches und fröhliches Mädchen hat sich gut von der Verletzung erholt und ist wieder top im Weltcup.
Hope she gets better
The lesson of keeping your bindings too tight.
Heartbreaking for watch! 💔
Tensions on her ski connections must be set up a way over her body weight...
Unfortunately so many professional skiers do that but risks are huge as we can see here...
This whole season there are simply to many injuries and something must be changed to save these people....(maybe due to corona virus skiers didn’t practice enough or maybe there is to much ice on slopes...)
Whish her a quick recovery...
“Too much ice on the slopes”?! I can tell you’ve never ski raced. They specifically salt the courses so they turn to ice so they don’t break down into ruts and bumps. It’s much safer to ski on an icy smooth course than a rutted out soft course. I used to say they could tip an ice rink up to make a hill and I could ski down it. With good ski technique, skiing ice is NBD. Sometimes I actually was skiing on ice; like see down into it actual ice. Ice is good.
And yes, the DIN settings on bindings are much higher than for normal skiers. I had a clueless ski tech reset my bindings for my official weight and I couldn’t even skate to the lift without my skis popping off. My official weight setting was 8 but I skied at 11-12, so I had to find a screwdriver to reset them to normal. Commercial ski bindings max out at 14; but racers’ bindings (which are generally not sold to the public) max out at 23. The forces ski racers experience are far greater than for average skiers and it’s not good to have skis that pre-release at 90 mph. So racers need bindings with much higher max settings.
At this level skiing with the amount of force generated in the downhill, you basically are cranking your binding to the max. If you don’t, you run the risk of your skis coming of in a turn. And as someone said below me, you want ice on a course.because it stops ruts from forming in the turns. Racing courses are always salted to form ice.
way too much ice on these runs!
I'm speechless bro
What exactly happened to her
Why doesnt the skis snap off?
Given the advances in torque meters and impact monitoring by digital sensors, is it not time for the binding manufscturers 0A to get digital with the release systems? Surely this would then be the way to have a dynamically adjusting DIN setting, as obviuosly at lower speeds the 23 DIN setting is way too stiff for the impact but then again you dont want to be too light for the highest speeds. I am glad to know that both this skier and the other Austrian competitor who faced a similar leg break induced by non-release are both on the road to recovery.
I doubt she was on 23. That’s the max setting that’s on a racer’s binding and they never use max settings. And that’s for the men. Most likely she was 14 or under.
P.S., I’m not sure I would trust something electronic for skiing. It would have to be incredibly reliable. It’s a neat idea though. Lower settings automatically for lower speeds would be good.
Are you kidding me?! As she’s screaming the photographers are standing there taking pictures of the skier in agony and doing nothing to help!!! 😡
same exact thing happened to me but i hit a pole and broke my humerus in a nasty spiral
She gained a lot of speed and that fall was horrifically painful. Hope it wasn't as bad as it looked.
Career ending triple exposed fracture of her leg
You can't completely tell just from this that it will be career ending (huge risk though), I have seen some come back from even worse looking leg breaks.
@@alerey4363 She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth.
After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
They should rethink the fence barrier idea. Some damage may have occurred there.
Damn that sucks , she was flying thru the race too
Wow. Get better soon!
I screamed the same way in a dream i had when spiders and crickets were biting me
Didn't look like she really got hurt until she hit the fence!
You can see her leg broken before hitting the fence
Couldn’t watch the slo-mo. Blocked it with my hand.
jesus this sport is scary crashing at such high speed without any protection.
Many legs were broken that day.
Looked like her ski bindings never released as her skis never broke off. Guess they were adjusted really tight so that they wouldn't inadvertently release during her run.
ugh, I saw knees being bent in ways they arent supposed to be bent.
she face planted really bad first.
The coach, or the skier, should have an "eject" button to blow those skis off when it is obvious the skier has fallen. Coach could have it remotely, or skier could have a button to pound on their chest. It seems this would have been a nothing fall if the skis had come off before the fence. Same for other events like ski jumping. Too many legs have been twisted to destruction in circumstances where the coach or the skier had time to do something. The technology to design such a system, safely, must be available by now.
They barely come off now a days, I rarely fall and had a blow out several years back took months years to recover backs still not the same nor my knee, before the fat ski's, and with rear entry boots and parallel skiing you'd pop right out and your ski would stop even the length I use to ski on 215's. Some people think it's easier now but not me.
Her leg snapped far before the fence. It happens at 1:27 when she catches an edge, perhaps trying to slow down. Pause at 1:28 you can clearly see her tibia is snapped at a 90° angle. The header photo shows it too
@@christiegroves that has nothing to do with the skis, it has to do with your DIN setting is cranked up to high if your skis are not ejecting before enough force is applied to hurt yourself. Bindings have adjustable settings that depend on your size, weight, and how you ski. The range of the settings on bindings is pretty big, usually suitable for everyone from beginners to advanced skiers. You don't want skis releasing prematurely, but the only reason they wouldn't release before you hurt yourself is if the DIN setting was to high, or there is another issue with the bindings. But I've been skiing for 25 years, and my dad like 60 now, we have never gotten hurt as a result of skis not popping off
The problem is they can't have the skis release any sooner then they do. The amount of force applied to the skis when you are racing is insane. The bindings set need to be set high enough that they don't pop off when making turns(which you do see happen once in awhile). Problem is the force they are feeling from the skiis during a race like this is greater than what it takes to hurt yourself if it's applied at a non-favorable direction
They make it look easy, but the amount of pounding your legs take when doing this is crazy, they cannot even use the majority of bindings on the market because the bindings do not have a high enough DIN setting for pro racing.
During a fall, you would rather your skis on then off. Those suits are like Teflon, there is no slowing down during a slide, which at those speeds can be really bad as we see. But they are very useful for slowing yourself down. Alot of times you can use them during a slide to get you up, but unfortunately for her she was thrown to far back and couldn't correct in time to get up during the slide.
That would be incredibly complex and weigh a lot. I don’t think it’s workable in the real world.
Veey saddd.hope she is fine now.
She broke her tibia ad fibula between the two upper buckles in her left boot. In addition, she got a compression fracture in the tibia plateau that also caused damage to her meniscus. They had to take a piece of bone from her hip to add to the top of her leg and sew the meniscus. Furthermore, one of her teeth got kicked and locked in the wrong position for 8 hrs, leaving her with three plates in her leg to hold the bones together and a dead tooth.
After 3 weeks and new pictures, small bone pieces were found with new pictures under her knee so she underwent a small surgery to have them removed as well so she can straighten out her leg. (Source: From her post on her Instagram profile).
Skis should have released upon fall, what spring were in the binding.
He got himself some great bindings!!!
Binding didn't release.
They shouldn't have done a replay of that. Very bad form by the broadcast director.
I wish her bindings weren't set so high.. They need to make are rule on the den settings some how without pre relishing.
Those bindings didn’t do there job set to tight
So that person standing bottom left is just going to stand there?
Ouch her head hit that pole. It looked like they wrapped her in a body bag because how could she breathe without her head sticking out of that large duffle bag? She is really pretty in the photos I've seen. Looks like she suffered some broken bones. I cant figure out what caused her to crash on a straight-away it's almost like something was buried in the snow that stopped her ski's forward motion.
It looks like the netting twister her leg up
I'm really not impressed with the camera guy's reaction. (left @ 1:05)
I swear the third squeal sounds like she may have stumbled upon sasquatch
i guess losing her ski was more important than the continuity of her legs
Oh my, her left leg looks snapped mid-shin. I think the fence caused it
Brutal fall and hoping for a full recovery. How about that EMT at the end, does that guy have the coolest job or what.
The netting and fencing still is the biggest issue. They need to find alternatives a solid fence with the ability to reduce energy transfer is required. Someone is going to get killed and then they will finally do something about it. Terrible I wish her a speedy recovery.
Hi ..people have got dead ..Gernot Reinstadler🙏🕯️🌹 got fatally injured from this very kind of crap.. but crashes ( of any kind - in any sport ) ) get advertising ratings🤑💰💲 .. I have to wonder if these incidents are not being caused on purpose 🤨.. so many incidents.. .too many .🤔.just my humble opinion.. ...she is so lucky she is not dead from this incident.. I hope she can even walk unassisted again after this horror crash.. 🛐.. . if this woman never skis competitively again ( or does any skiing again ) from these injuries♿.. I would guess a lawsuit towards someone ( maybe a number of someones💼⚖️🏛️ ) is very appropriate... poor woman .. I feel for her.. 🌹I pray she heals completely 🙏🛐🌹
That netting seems to do more damage than good
I ride with "Prangers' Markers comp 180 for left and comp 200 for right, set to 130 for left and 140 and that's for slalom, and it pops out like a charm when I fall or smash the ski 90 degrees on the surface with the boot...I know it's world cup skiing (I got the skis and binds from a world cup skier and were serviced by one of the best in the world) but I always check and set up my own bindings after a couple of days of running, not long ago I even needed to glue the plate and the binds because every degree and feel counts! Will need to retire then soon, but anyways they're not for competition also 🤙👀
Busted up my knee really bad sprained it and injured my ACL I won’t know how bad it is till I get an MRI. Skis never popped off…
Her skis are supposed to come off to prevent that very thing. Why didnt they come off?
Omg. Terrible that her skis didn’t release.
Arent the skis supposed to pop off like waaaaaay sooner?
At least there were warnings on the title. Her screams are horrid to hear. Those skis are long lever arms torquing on a skiers legs during an accident. The athletes push themselves and their equipment beyond the limits on what may be a once-in-a-lifetime Olympics event for some of them. The body too is under extreme physical stresses well beyond what it is subject too in normal daily activities. At 60mph the vibrations and impacts are probably in the 1000lbs+ per sq inch on just the feet and ankles alone.
I pray 🙏🏽for full recovery for her.
Her skis piont the same way throughout her crash - until she hits the safety fence.When she finally stops, one ski point in the proper direction, the other in the opposite direction, a firm hint at a severely broken leg (hence the screams).
Now, refresh my memory: What are Safety Ski Bindings for? If they are set beyond max, you might as well bolt your boots to your skis, any 'safety' aspects are thrown out the window.
Every skier has a set limit, depending on bone structure, weight and physical condition, and bindings should be set accordingly. Ignoring that is inviting career-ending injuries.
At 0:53 you can see her left leg below the knee flopping at right angles to normal movement.
They’re set higher than for normal skiing; but they never max them out. Even at the World Cup level. Commercial ski bindings max at 14 and racer’s bindings max out at 23. I would guess for her weight she was set at 14-15 at most. Probably lower. My downhill skis were set at 13 and I’m a heavier person. So even for a woman at the WC level, I can’t see them maxing the bindings out.
He tibial plateau has left the chat.
Far too any women are injured in ski races. I am amazed that FIS hasn't been sued. There is something fundamentally wrong with the sport when so many of the best skiers in the world sustain serious injuries every season.
I don’t get how this is a graphic warning
I told you we shouldn’t have strapped her skis on like that…
I do not understand why these people race with their bindings so tight. Like I get they don’t want to come out of their skis in a turn, but damn, they could be a little loose. They didn’t even come off when she hit the barrier and in my opinion should’ve come off when she first tumbled.
Leg breaks @ 1:27
That could have been so much worse!