My family have her autograph, from when she appeared at the Kings Theatre Southsea. My great grandmother worked as her dresser there. Lilly was found of my great grandmother, and wanted her to travel to the USA with her, but my great grandmother could not go.
My grandfather, Vavasor Hammond, was Lillie's first cousin--although much younger. She would visit him when he was a student at Cambridge. My grandfather became very popular! I stayed at the Cadogan when last in London, in Lillie's suite. What a privilege!
Legend has it that during a heated argument, the Prince of Wales once remarked he'd "Spent enough pounds on her to build a battleship"! Her reply? "And you've spent enough inside me to float one"!
One thing I read about Lillie was how she kept her famous figure. She would go out at 5am with a carriage and driver to a large park and then run in the dark, with the carriage following her. Her childhood with all those brothers taught her the value of physical exercise.
Very interesting. I had heard of her as a stage actress but didn't know how colourful her life was. She packed loads in. Very well spoken thank you☘🇮🇪🧚♀️
Years ago Masterpiece Theatre had a miniseries, "Lillie," starring Francesca Annis, which was fascinating. I find her life incredibly interesting, because she had so many brilliant friends in her life (Oscare Wilde one of the closest) and accomplished so much for a woman in this time period. Thank you for keeping her spirit alive!
One of my favorite people to hear/learn more about! Thanks for the quality video on her! She led an amazing life and managed to hold on to her independence the whole time.
@@changeintheair9648 She tried to but Edward wouldn't give her a divorce even though it was clear the marriage wasn't a success, and without the husbands agreement a woman couldn't get a divorce in those days. And Edward lied to her and her family about being a wealthy gentleman who didn't have to work, when in fact he lived off an allowance from his family. Lily's parents would never have allowed her to marry him if they knew the truth, and he didn't treat her well in the early days of their marriage.
Life was so different for the wealthy back in those days especially compared to the working class. She was so beautiful she could get just about everything she wanted. She really knew how to used her femininity too. The poor husband though. I really enjoyed hearing her story. 💕
@beverly ledbetter -- Even by today's standards, she was very very pretty. Back then, they didn't use mascara or face make-up, so I should imagine that there weren't too many that one would term 'beautiful' today, inasmuch as the old saying: "lipstick, powder & paint makes her into what she ain't". Movie stars, for example, that today are ravishing beauties on screen look like hell without make-up, often as not. You had to make it or break it in the looks dept. back in Langtry's day, with what you were born with.
Edward lied to her and her family about being a wealthy gentleman who didn't have to work, when in fact he lived off an allowance from his family. Lily's parents would never have allowed her to marry him if they knew the truth, and he didn't treat her well in the early days of their marriage.
@@marilynguinnane4663 hi, i agree with everything you said but one thing. In edwardian times make up was popular, even it was quite deadly due to ingredients
@@marilynguinnane4663 she looks incredibly masculine and matronly for contemporary beauty standards. It seems like any average modern woman would be a beauty icon in 19th century England.
Thank you for showing this video. I was mesmerized with Miss Langtry years ago. She was beautiful. There was a special about her life on TV 25 years ago.
Thank you so much for this fabulous time in history 💐 A woman so beautiful that THE PRINCE OF WALES made her his mistress and they had a lovely daughter, born in Paris and later was presented at Court to Queen Victoria 🌹 I visited Jersey where she was born 🍃A story of love 💕 You are so generous to have thought of offering it to us 🇺🇸 💥
The Prince of Wales was not her daughter's father. They had ended their relationship way before that. "Earl of Shrewsbury" being the man Lillie had an affair with and wanted to run away with, this I've never heard of. I'm pretty sure it was indeed Prince Louis of Battenberg.
Years ago, there was a series on PBS's Masterpiece Theater of 'Lillie'. It was nicely done for 1978, and the lead actress, Francesca Annis, was very good. It played around a wee bit with some of the accuracy of her life story, but was overall quite a decent watch.
One of Lily’s London townhouses is now a hotel, I stayed there and dined in what would have been her dining room where she entertained the Prince of Wales.
Masterpiece Theater did a series on this actress many years ago. That we my intro to this remarkable lady! I've admired her greatly, since. Ava Gardner portrayed her on film, once. You added more layers to what I came to know about her life. Thank you for doing her story, too!
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Well done - I knew of Lillie Langtry but learned much from this. A good subject for you would be Loie Fuller - a very prominent performer in Paris and inventor of stage lighting, stage paints, etc - had a troupe that performed worldwide, was involved with the Queen of Romania, and dabbled in the new medium of film. Her start in life was indeed very humble.
Thank you & cheers! Would love to hear more about Lillie's friendship with Oscar Wilde. Also, judging from some comments below, some people overlook that she sold off her own possessions to pay off her debts & save her husband from bankruptcy, & that said husband was a dour alcoholic who refused to grant her a divorce....comments that focus on the fact she chose to sleep with many men is perplexing & irritating, imo
I so agree with your comment, darling. In those comments you see the double-moral of some people who say"women should be equal" but then, they judge women as prostitutes if they dare sleep around and think for themselves in an era where that was frown upon. I don't read anyone saying "what a pig" her horrible husband was or how awful that "man-whore prince" was.
In 1977 I went to England on a high school trip. We stayed at a hotel by Hyde Park that was Lilly Langtree's home that Prince Edward had given her that had been converted into a small hotel. It was absolutely gorgeous! There was one floor that was the original ballroom. I looked it up online recently and it is still a hotel, but of course the rooms had been remodeled and updated. I hope that they left the lobby and the third floor original.
I throughly enjoyed this story about Lillie Langtry, I'm familiar with her life story but alot of the various information you presented I wasn't aware of. She was a fascinating woman in all aspects not only did she have beauty but brains, as well. She seemed to always be able to make the best out of whatever life thew at her, period!
She would have been a better person if she had considered the people who her actions would hurt before moving in on a guy and exploiting him. The story says nothing about the damage, misery, and suffering that her actions caused to third parties. Having brains also includes considering the possible fall-out of ones actions before making a move. She may have been smart in some ways, but she surely was stupid in other ways. Having genuine intelligence covers a broad spectrum and includes long term planning. No doubt she caused her first husband, Langtry, a lot of anguish. I wonder if her actions lead to his alcoholism? I think she ruined his life. Before the first marriage, he must have been clear on his expectations, but she married him anyway and then manipulated him until he was financially ruined. All this happened because he had a fixation over her big boobs. Did she have narcissistic personally disorder or borderline personality disorder? Which was it?
@@karenolson4000 -- Her bust size looked to me to be about average. I think you're a bit too harsh on Ms. Langtry. You didn't stand in her shoes. Did you.
A lot of work goes in to the full stories, thanks so much. I'm glad that Lily found true companionship and love with her woman friend at the end. Good wishes 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️ 🏴
i had heard of lillie langtry , in old western movies . however , i knew nothing of her life , except , that she was a performer and celebrated beauty , of the old west . this is a very interesting and informative share , thank you , for sharing.............
Lillie Langtry is a name I haven't heard mention of in a long time, I used to read about her in old history books when I was in my early teenage years.
I was born in Jersey and i remember seeing her grave site as child. My Mom told me about her, and i remember seeing her character played by different actresses in different movies! What a life she had! Nice job on this FL !
Very enjoyable. She was truly lovely. It is nice to see a woman of that era doing what she wanted and having fun. It was usually the men that did that and the wives who sat at home and waited while the husbands had multiple affairs. She must have been very likable & smart, too. She had a lot of character.
I see nothing more than ordinary in her features....she must have had an extraordinary personality and impressive talent. I bow to Oscar Wilde's assessment of Lilly...she was an exceptional beauty (inside as well as out)
Probably cuz in victorian age make up wasnt a thing so have a beautiful skin by your own was wow, then in edwardian is when make up was a thing an guess qho was the predilected model, her
Lillie Langtry played a pivotal role in two major Hollywood films, The Westerner with Gary Cooper, and The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean with Paul Newman. The character of Ms. Langtry gets little screen time, but is mentioned frequently throughout both films as an unobtainable goddess.
Very interesting and brilliantly put together. I wonder have you heard of the frontier judge in Texas who was fascinated by her and called his saloon the Jersey Lillie? She paid a visit to Texas after he died and was presented with a silver revolver. It's in the museum in Jersey.
Beauty standards over time have always been interesting to me. Many women from the late Victorian/Edwardian era, Lille Elsie, Cleo de Merode, Maude Fealy are still very beautiful by today’s standards. It’s only 200 years, and you wouldn’t think beauty standards would change all that much. However, Lillie never struck me personally as a great beauty. Apparently she caused a stir wherever she went but I just don’t see it....
I agree about her beauty but it is hard to really judge by black and white photographs, so much of a woman's beauty can be seen in her eye and hair color and her complexion, all of which is lost in B&W photographs, I will say as she aged her jaw appeared to get heavier and more prominent.
Her strong facial structure was very fashionable at the time. Women wanted that "Greek statue" look. The Raphaelite painters were a big influence on this look.
One of her many "charms" was said to be her "ivory complexion". She was one of the first modern product endorsers for among other things: "PEARS SOAP (a natural tie-in)
There is a really good series on DVD called Lillie. It is very true to life and many hours of viewing. I think if this interests you, perhaps hire or buy it.
I doubt it was a great life. Cheating on husband and being passed between so many elite men. If I were her, I would have felt used, but she was a user too.
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Many famous people have had dishes named after them, and Miss Langtry's was known as Lillie Langtry's Brunch. I've made it, and it's delicious! If you want to try it for yourself, here's the recipe -- Lillie Langtry's Brunch 4 medium potatoes, peeled and diced 3 tablespoons butter 1/2 medium onion, chopped 1 jalapeno pepper, seeded and chopped 1/4 cup picante sauce 1 teaspoon seasoned salt 1 teaspoon paprika 1/8 teaspoon pepper 4 eggs 1 cup each shredded sharp cheddar and Monterey Jack cheese Cook potatoes in boiling water until tender; drain. Melt butter in frying pan. Add onion and cook until tender. Add jalapeno and salsa. Stir and cook over low heat 2 minutes. Add potatoes, seasoned salt, paprika and pepper. Stir gently over low heat till potatoes are heated through. Poach, fry or scramble eggs, undercooking them slightly. Season with salt and pepper. Divide potato mixture among 4 heatproof plates or ramekins. Top each with an egg. Sprinkle cheeses on top. Place under broiler for 2 minutes or until cheese is melted. Serves 4.
It's not like women had many options in the Victorian/Edwardian Eras. I see no moral decay in what you allege. She knew what she wanted and she took advantage of opportunities as they were presented to her, much as women and men do today. Back in that time women of her station were taught to use their talents to gain social mobility. It was the only way they could hope to improve their lives. Extra marital affairs within aristocratic unions were accepted as long as discretion was employed. Divorce was a reputation killer. Life for women of any class was a whole lot different than it is today. And, you forget that she trained and learned a craft/skill in the theater, and then traveled to support that career. Or is that another activity that falls foul of your moral view?
I'm just glad that she found contentment at the end with her female friend. It's a shame that many people have to rely on their looks and attractiveness to get to be where they want to be. I'm not judging. Interesting comments, good wishes.
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Interesting fact, Lillie's granddaughter, Mary Malcolm, became one of the very first two female announcers for the BBC Television Network (now BBC) and had a long career in television.
Lilly was said to be the most beautiful woman on both sides of the pond , and enchanted every man she encountered. Although Lily performed in many of Opra Houses In America, Lily remains very independent and was considered a poster girl kind of a Liok Don’t Touch lady in American society. Lily had a wonderful life by all standards.
Very interesting. I’ve always heard her name but didn’t know much about her other than the fact that she was an actress. And, oh yes, she was mentioned in Quentin Tarantino’s movie the hateful 8.
If there is one subject I know it's Lillie. I watched the mini series with Francesa Annis and I was hooked. Here pictures are breathtaking. The painters loved her because of her Greek profile.
@@thevanished8185 none of us was there. Its obvious her husband stayed with her because of money. She was so open with her affairs, it was as almost as thought she wanted him to leave her but he never would.
@@ShareeMonique He was her husband, he had the right to stay with her regardless of financial motivations. It doesn't give her the right to adultery. It never fails that women can't seem to understand adultery unless it's a woman who is it's victim. So I'm going to spin it around for comprehension. How many women put up with adultery in Victorian England for a home and financial security? Did their desire for comfort and protection justify or excuse their husband infidelity? Point in fact adultery is not empowerment or liberation it is morally wrong, and a treacherous betrayal, regardless of who is the perpetrator. I know I'm speaking to an audience were empathy is limited to those who are in the same group, but it has to be spoken. Side note: Regardeless of his game face, I know Will Smith is not happy.
You present these notable women unusually well. Thank you. You might be interested in Mattie Thweatt Dube', who was born in Alabama and made a name for herself as a member of the Paris salon. She stopped painting in 1912 when her daughter Theodora died, and her fate afterwards is unclear. She might have died in Monte Carlo during WWII. Her life is especially difficult to establish with certaintity because of the conflicting information which she herself generated.
Listening to this video from lake county in northern California I have no idea that one of our vineyards was related to Lily Langtry thank you for another enjoyable and informative video. 💯😊
I wonder if she would be considered a beauty today. Interesting how standards change. Same thoughts about Mae West. Fantastic presentation. Thank you so much!
Many thanks. I always wondered what Lillie Langtry (great name) looked like. You sort of left out the part where she toured the SW of the U.S. and Judge Roy Bean fell in love with her. I do admire Langtry for her spunk and sense of adventure.
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Errrrr she was just a free spirit, why is that a bad thing? Good for her she did her own thing, she didn't bow down and conform like a sheep lol she had a great life she did so much with her life and I really admire her
@@luciddreamer4938 affairs are a bad thing?? When did we start justifying affairs now? Now don't pull the out the "men during that time had affairs too" because I'm not refuting that too because I honestly find it as disgusting. Also she was not the only women like this, most people people whitin high society have been having affairs with each other despite having spouses since hundreds of yrs back even women and it doesn't make it any less disgusting or bad.
In a hundred years time few of the celebrities that we pay attention to and esteem so highly, including those who merit it, will be any better remembered or recognized than Lillian Langtree is today - and feel free to take your pick of the best known names and personalities of the day. I knew her name and some of her story due almost entirely to the British docudrama about her that was made a few decades ago, but I think that few people living today would have any idea who she was.
"Lillie Langtry" makes a brief appearance in two classic Hollywood Westerns as the "Ideal Woman/Goddess:" The Westerner (Gary Cooper) The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean'(Paul Newman)
@@bak-mariterry9143 Lilian Bond played her in "The Westerner" way back in 1940. And Francesca Annis played her in a BBC/PBS TV miniseries in the 1970s.
Sad thing is those women who were muses, where active sexually with those doing photos and paintings. They wound up broken hearted after sexual relationship with them - sometimes getting pregnant. Some turned to drugs or suicide.
What a fantastic story I never new her life was so amazing she was a woman before her time but did she ever find true love maybe she did thank you for this interesting story of her life Sending Best Wishes to you Marie Dublin Ireland
I have studied this period of society deeply because of a personal interest, and it had a lot of negative connotations. "High society" had terribly low morals and many people suffered because of this. Shame on them! :(
Pictures of Lilly made my life so wonderful Pictures of Lilly helped me sleep at night Pictures of Lilly solved my childhood problems Pictures of Lilly made me feel alright -The WHO!
Did Judge Roy Bean ever meet Lily Langtry? In 1882, he moved to southwest Texas, where he built his famous saloon, the Jersey Lilly, and founded the hamlet of Langtry. ... Bean had never met Langtry, but he had developed an abiding affection for the beautiful actress after seeing a drawing of her in an illustrated magazine.
Great vlog as always! A forgotten life for the people of today are my follow country «woman» Sonja Henie. A few years a go there was a documentary made about her. It is great!
When Rupert Potter was mentioned, I am pretty sure that was the same Rupert Potter who was the father of Beatrix Potter. He wore his sideburns just like that, and his first name was also Rupert.
My family have her autograph, from when she appeared at the Kings Theatre Southsea. My great grandmother worked as her dresser there. Lilly was found of my great grandmother, and wanted her to travel to the USA with her, but my great grandmother could not go.
Im related to Lillie!!! Lillie is my 9th great aunt :) my grandma still has the last name Langtry
My grandfather, Vavasor Hammond, was Lillie's first cousin--although much younger. She would visit him when he was a student at Cambridge. My grandfather became very popular! I stayed at the Cadogan when last in London, in Lillie's suite. What a privilege!
Legend has it that during a heated argument, the Prince of Wales once remarked he'd "Spent enough pounds on her to build a battleship"! Her reply? "And you've spent enough inside me to float one"!
That's the best line I have ever heard! I'm going to be borrowing that one.
Good one!
*Oh My!*
Yet no children? The water had no "swimmers" in it? 😂😂
@@DibIrken He had a few bastard children......
One thing I read about Lillie was how she kept her famous figure. She would go out at 5am with a carriage and driver to a large park and then run in the dark, with the carriage following her. Her childhood with all those brothers taught her the value of physical exercise.
Great! Way ahead of her time. Too bad she wasn't as disciplined in fidelity.
There's nothing wrong with having a bit of fun. Good time girls always start the party
She was married. If she wanted to sleep around she shouldn’t have married her husband. She used him to get to London and it was wrong.
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Pat Rick hmmm maybe, but she wasn’t a great woman. You don’t have to cheat scheme and hurt other people to survive.
William Gladstone’s advice to Lilly is still so very relevant today- Amazing story again you deserve so many more subscribers
Agreed, cheers matt :)
100% agreed. One of the absolute best on YT. I listen daily.
Very interesting. I had heard of her as a stage actress but didn't know how colourful her life was. She packed loads in. Very well spoken thank you☘🇮🇪🧚♀️
"Packed loads in"....oh, what a play on words!!! 💯😅🤣😅🤣
Years ago Masterpiece Theatre had a miniseries, "Lillie," starring Francesca Annis, which was fascinating. I find her life incredibly interesting, because she had so many brilliant friends in her life (Oscare Wilde one of the closest) and accomplished so much for a woman in this time period. Thank you for keeping her spirit alive!
It's available to watch on UA-cam, although I have it on DVD.
It's also on Roku . I'm watching it right now. It's very good .
Saw it years ago ,loved it 🇬🇧💐⭐️
One of my favorite people to hear/learn more about! Thanks for the quality video on her! She led an amazing life and managed to hold on to her independence the whole time.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work.
A fascinating woman. It seems that she had brains as well as beauty.
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She was disgusting. She should have divorced rather than slept with every man who had money and rank.
@@changeintheair9648 She tried to but Edward wouldn't give her a divorce even though it was clear the marriage wasn't a success, and without the husbands agreement a woman couldn't get a divorce in those days. And Edward lied to her and her family about being a wealthy gentleman who didn't have to work, when in fact he lived off an allowance from his family. Lily's parents would never have allowed her to marry him if they knew the truth, and he didn't treat her well in the early days of their marriage.
and WAP. lol
Life was so different for the wealthy back in those days especially compared to the working class. She was so beautiful she could get just about everything she wanted. She really knew how to used her femininity too. The poor husband though. I really enjoyed hearing her story. 💕
@beverly ledbetter -- Even by today's standards, she was very very pretty. Back then, they didn't use mascara or face make-up, so I should imagine that there weren't too many that one would term 'beautiful' today, inasmuch as the old saying: "lipstick, powder & paint makes her into what she ain't". Movie stars, for example, that today are ravishing beauties on screen look like hell without make-up, often as not. You had to make it or break it in the looks dept. back in Langtry's day, with what you were born with.
No difference between the rich then and now. They always have gotten away with abusive and criminal activity
Edward lied to her and her family about being a wealthy gentleman who didn't have to work, when in fact he lived off an allowance from his family. Lily's parents would never have allowed her to marry him if they knew the truth, and he didn't treat her well in the early days of their marriage.
@@marilynguinnane4663 hi, i agree with everything you said but one thing. In edwardian times make up was popular, even it was quite deadly due to ingredients
@@marilynguinnane4663 she looks incredibly masculine and matronly for contemporary beauty standards.
It seems like any average modern woman would be a beauty icon in 19th century England.
Thank you for showing this video. I was mesmerized with Miss Langtry years ago. She was beautiful. There was a special about her life on TV 25 years ago.
I know of Lilly because of how much Oscar Wilde loved and admired her.
Thank you so much for this fabulous time in history 💐 A woman so beautiful that THE PRINCE OF WALES made her his mistress and they had a lovely daughter, born in Paris and later was presented at Court to Queen Victoria 🌹 I visited Jersey where she was born 🍃A story of love 💕 You are so generous to have thought of offering it to us 🇺🇸 💥
Thanks for watching :)
The Prince of Wales made a lot of women his mistress. The man was an alley Tom cat.
The Father of her daughter was the then Prince Battenberg
The Prince of Wales was not her daughter's father. They had ended their relationship way before that. "Earl of Shrewsbury" being the man Lillie had an affair with and wanted to run away with, this I've never heard of. I'm pretty sure it was indeed Prince Louis of Battenberg.
Years ago, there was a series on PBS's Masterpiece Theater of 'Lillie'. It was nicely done for 1978, and the lead actress, Francesca Annis, was very good. It played around a wee bit with some of the accuracy of her life story, but was overall quite a decent watch.
I remember that series. It was excellently done.
One of Lily’s London townhouses is now a hotel, I stayed there and dined in what would have been her dining room where she entertained the Prince of Wales.
Sounds awesome!
"Lillie's."
Masterpiece Theater did a series on this actress many years ago. That we my intro to this remarkable lady! I've admired her greatly, since. Ava Gardner portrayed her on film, once. You added more layers to what I came to know about her life. Thank you for doing her story, too!
I remember that series! I loved it and her ever since! Thank you for the mention.
That was very interesting. Lilly was a courtesan/actress
I wonder what type of life her daughter had...
Nicky L how interesting. Thanks for that. Canadian connection
@Nicky L ~sounds wonderfull
Was it though?......
Courtesan is just a fancy way of saying she was a high priced hooker.
@@alexcrowder1673 apparently. He was extremely wealthy and she seemed to have had a happy and fulfilled marriage.
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She is a distant relative. My mother's family came from Jersey.
So anyone who comes from Jersey is your relative?
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@@romainamelie5960 The natives were likely all related.
Well done - I knew of Lillie Langtry but learned much from this. A good subject for you would be Loie Fuller - a very prominent performer in Paris and inventor of stage lighting, stage paints, etc - had a troupe that performed worldwide, was involved with the Queen of Romania, and dabbled in the new medium of film. Her start in life was indeed very humble.
Thanks , I'll look into it!
Thank you I love your story telling... Lilly lived life on her terms good and bad... Ladies still do...
Thank you & cheers! Would love to hear more about Lillie's friendship with Oscar Wilde. Also, judging from some comments below, some people overlook that she sold off her own possessions to pay off her debts & save her husband from bankruptcy, & that said husband was a dour alcoholic who refused to grant her a divorce....comments that focus on the fact she chose to sleep with many men is perplexing & irritating, imo
Agreed!!
I so agree with your comment, darling. In those comments you see the double-moral of some people who say"women should be equal" but then, they judge women as prostitutes if they dare sleep around and think for themselves in an era where that was frown upon. I don't read anyone saying "what a pig" her horrible husband was or how awful that "man-whore prince" was.
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Oscar wrote his poem, "The New Helen" about Lillie "formerly of Troy, now of London."
@@carlajenkins1990 I did not know that - thank you! Off to read said poem. enjoy the rest of your day (or evening) :-)
In 1977 I went to England on a high school trip. We stayed at a hotel by Hyde Park that was Lilly Langtree's home that Prince Edward had given her that had been converted into a small hotel. It was absolutely gorgeous! There was one floor that was the original ballroom. I looked it up online recently and it is still a hotel, but of course the rooms had been remodeled and updated. I hope that they left the lobby and the third floor original.
I throughly enjoyed this story about Lillie Langtry, I'm familiar with her life story but alot of the various information you presented I wasn't aware of. She was a fascinating woman in all aspects not only did she have beauty but brains, as well. She seemed to always be able to make the best out of whatever life thew at her, period!
Glad you enjoyed it!
She would have been a better person if she had considered the people who her actions would hurt before moving in on a guy and exploiting him. The story says nothing about the damage, misery, and suffering that her actions caused to third parties. Having brains also includes considering the possible fall-out of ones actions before making a move. She may have been smart in some ways, but she surely was stupid in other ways. Having genuine intelligence covers a broad spectrum and includes long term planning. No doubt she caused her first husband, Langtry, a lot of anguish. I wonder if her actions lead to his alcoholism? I think she ruined his life. Before the first marriage, he must have been clear on his expectations, but she married him anyway and then manipulated him until he was financially ruined. All this happened because he had a fixation over her big boobs. Did she have narcissistic personally disorder or borderline personality disorder? Which was it?
@@karenolson4000 -- Her bust size looked to me to be about average. I think you're a bit too harsh on Ms. Langtry. You didn't stand in her shoes. Did you.
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@@marilynguinnane4663 Very true.
A lot of work goes in to the full stories, thanks so much.
I'm glad that Lily found true companionship and love with her woman friend at the end.
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Thanks :)
i had heard of lillie langtry , in old western movies . however , i knew nothing of her life , except , that she was a performer and celebrated beauty , of the old west . this is a very interesting and informative share , thank you , for sharing.............
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His narration and the videos/photos provided is spot-on!
Lillie Langtry is a name I haven't heard mention of in a long time, I used to read about her in old history books when I was in my early teenage years.
I was born in Jersey and i remember seeing her grave site as child. My Mom told me about her, and i remember seeing her character played by different actresses in different movies! What a life she had! Nice job on this FL !
Cool. It looks so tiny.
@@TawnyC_ Yes, both Jersey and Guernsey are very small. But it does not get that cold and they are surrounded with amazing beaches and scenery!
@@mileshigh1321 it sounds beautiful 💙
Must have been interesting growing up there! Thanks for the comment!
Thank you so much for this interesting and very entertaining channel!! If my mother was still living, she would've enjoyed this too!!
Langtry, Texas was founded by Judge Roy Bean and named after Lillie Langtry. His bar where he held court was also named after her, the Jersey Lillie.
I remember watching a movie about judge Bean when I was little. His court was crazy!🤣🤣🤣
It had to be Texas. 😀😁😂
Very enjoyable. She was truly lovely. It is nice to see a woman of that era doing what she wanted and having fun. It was usually the men that did that and the wives who sat at home and waited while the husbands had multiple affairs. She must have been very likable & smart, too. She had a lot of character.
The beautiful lily langtry great story thank you for doing her
My pleasure!
I see nothing more than ordinary in her features....she must have had an extraordinary personality and impressive talent. I bow to Oscar Wilde's assessment of Lilly...she was an exceptional beauty (inside as well as out)
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I agree. She looked quite plain.
Probably cuz in victorian age make up wasnt a thing so have a beautiful skin by your own was wow, then in edwardian is when make up was a thing an guess qho was the predilected model, her
She must have had a very intoxicating energy or way of being.
Beauty was judged differently in those times. She had a grecion nose, beautiful skin and a curvy figure.
Also, she was witty,intelligent and kind.
Wow, she should have been on Maury to find out “and the father is”... she got around
I Was Thinking The Same Thing.
Nah, she'd be too classy for Maury
@@DenitaArnold Discretion is the better part of valor.
What a life fulfilled! Wow
@@K209-w4w -- I couldn't agree more. Once upon a time, I led an exciting life, as well, when I was young.
Lillie Langtry played a pivotal role in two major Hollywood films, The Westerner with Gary Cooper, and The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean with Paul Newman. The character of Ms. Langtry gets little screen time, but is mentioned frequently throughout both films as an unobtainable goddess.
I have just finished watching Lillie on UA-cam. I tend to be the type of person who fixates on someone and just now it's Lillie Langtry! The divine!!
In a time when women were pretty much owned by their husbands, Lilly chose her own destiny.
Bobbie Robinson, having to get by on the few assets she could leverage.
Yeah and that was to be nothing but a toy for wealthy men. I don't think that speaks well of "ndependence.
@@changeintheair9648 and what would you choose besides independence?
She is best known as a mistress. Hardly empowering 😂
Change InTheAir Exactly well said. Some women today have a warped idea of what feminism really is.
Fantastic job! Well done and fascinating!
I had only heard of her acting career. I never knew of her many facets. Thank you! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching! Will do :)
Very interesting and brilliantly put together. I wonder have you heard of the frontier judge in Texas who was fascinated by her and called his saloon the Jersey Lillie? She paid a visit to Texas after he died and was presented with a silver revolver. It's in the museum in Jersey.
Judge Roy Bean. Paul Newman starred in a movie about him & Ava Gardner played Langtree. Very good movie.
Beauty standards over time have always been interesting to me. Many women from the late Victorian/Edwardian era, Lille Elsie, Cleo de Merode, Maude Fealy are still very beautiful by today’s standards. It’s only 200 years, and you wouldn’t think beauty standards would change all that much. However, Lillie never struck me personally as a great beauty. Apparently she caused a stir wherever she went but I just don’t see it....
I agree about her beauty but it is hard to really judge by black and white photographs, so much of a woman's beauty can be seen in her eye and hair color and her complexion, all of which is lost in B&W photographs, I will say as she aged her jaw appeared to get heavier and more prominent.
Her strong facial structure was very fashionable at the time. Women wanted that "Greek statue" look. The Raphaelite painters were a big influence on this look.
One of her many "charms" was said to be her "ivory complexion". She was one of the first modern product endorsers for among other things: "PEARS SOAP (a natural tie-in)
Elina T -- It's probable that Langtry had beautiful skin. And she certainly had beautiful eyes. But flawless skin will make any woman look beautiful.
Everything I've read attests to her beauty. I don't think portraits, etc. most likely did not do her justice.
There is a really good series on DVD called Lillie. It is very true to life and many hours of viewing. I think if this interests you, perhaps hire or buy it.
GREAT series!! I always enjoy seeing Oscar Wilde and various members of the PRB portrayed on screen, as well!
Ok! I will. Thank you!
your awesome and as always thanx for the uploads and all your tireless research and shares / editing cheers Pat
Dates bounced around a little, but this woman led a great life. Thanks!
I doubt it was a great life. Cheating on husband and being passed between so many elite men. If I were her, I would have felt used, but she was a user too.
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@@ForgottenLives Absolutely! All your videos are very entertaining and excellently made. 🙂
A very enjoyable episode , beautifully narrated thank you 👍
Many famous people have had dishes named after them, and Miss Langtry's was known as Lillie Langtry's Brunch. I've made it, and it's delicious! If you want to try it for yourself, here's the recipe --
Lillie Langtry's Brunch
4 medium potatoes, peeled and diced
3 tablespoons butter
1/2 medium onion, chopped
1 jalapeno pepper, seeded and chopped
1/4 cup picante sauce
1 teaspoon seasoned salt
1 teaspoon paprika
1/8 teaspoon pepper
4 eggs
1 cup each shredded sharp cheddar and Monterey Jack cheese
Cook potatoes in boiling water until tender; drain. Melt butter in frying pan. Add onion and cook until tender. Add jalapeno and salsa. Stir and cook over low heat 2 minutes. Add potatoes, seasoned salt, paprika and pepper. Stir gently over low heat till potatoes are heated through. Poach, fry or scramble eggs, undercooking them slightly. Season with salt and pepper. Divide potato mixture among 4 heatproof plates or ramekins. Top each with an egg. Sprinkle cheeses on top. Place under broiler for 2 minutes or until cheese is melted. Serves 4.
FLives! Great to hear from you. Will enjoy now! Thanks Edit: I enjoyed it! Awesome work on the story as always.
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Hi Nancy!😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comments :)
@@ForgottenLives You are always very welcome! Thanks
She was a stunning beauty. Absolutely breathtaking.
Lilly Langtry, like so many socialites of her time, was an opportunist, using her body and "talents" to procure what she felt was important to her.
It's not like women had many options in the Victorian/Edwardian Eras. I see no moral decay in what you allege. She knew what she wanted and she took advantage of opportunities as they were presented to her, much as women and men do today. Back in that time women of her station were taught to use their talents to gain social mobility. It was the only way they could hope to improve their lives. Extra marital affairs within aristocratic unions were accepted as long as discretion was employed. Divorce was a reputation killer. Life for women of any class was a whole lot different than it is today. And, you forget that she trained and learned a craft/skill in the theater, and then traveled to support that career. Or is that another activity that falls foul of your moral view?
I'm just glad that she found contentment at the end with her female friend.
It's a shame that many people have to rely on their looks and attractiveness to get to be where they want to be.
I'm not judging.
Interesting comments, good wishes.
This woman's life was fascinating. I enjoyed listening to it very much.😊🌺❤
Glad you enjoyed it
I have absolutely no suggestions, but I am enjoying every one of these. I did subscribe because I want to see more. Thank you so much regards, Denise in San Francisco, California.
Interesting fact, Lillie's granddaughter, Mary Malcolm, became one of the very first two female announcers for the BBC Television Network (now BBC) and had a long career in television.
Im related to Lillie!!! Lillie is my 9th great aunt :) my grandma still has the last name Langtry
Lilly was said to be the most beautiful woman on both sides of the pond , and enchanted every man she encountered. Although Lily performed in many of Opra Houses In America, Lily remains very independent and was considered a poster girl kind of a Liok Don’t Touch lady in American society. Lily had a wonderful life by all standards.
Very interesting. I’ve always heard her name but didn’t know much about her other than the fact that she was an actress. And, oh yes, she was mentioned in Quentin Tarantino’s movie the hateful 8.
Might have to watch it!
If there is one subject I know it's Lillie. I watched the mini series with Francesa Annis and I was hooked. Here pictures are breathtaking. The painters loved her because of her Greek profile.
I think Princess Alexandra put up with a lot.
OMG did she ever. She positively HATED Daisy Brooke known to history as The Babbling Brook!
Lillie was a liberated woman for her time. Who are we to judge her morals?
Ask yourself that same question if your partner does the exact same thing to you. I trust you will be as understanding.
@@thevanished8185 none of us was there. Its obvious her husband stayed with her because of money.
She was so open with her affairs, it was as almost as thought she wanted him to leave her but he never would.
@@ShareeMonique He was her husband, he had the right to stay with her regardless of financial motivations. It doesn't give her the right to adultery. It never fails that women can't seem to understand adultery unless it's a woman who is it's victim. So I'm going to spin it around for comprehension. How many women put up with adultery in Victorian England for a home and financial security? Did their desire for comfort and protection justify or excuse their husband infidelity? Point in fact adultery is not empowerment or liberation it is morally wrong, and a treacherous betrayal, regardless of who is the perpetrator. I know I'm speaking to an audience were empathy is limited to those who are in the same group, but it has to be spoken.
Side note: Regardeless of his game face, I know Will Smith is not happy.
What's your definition of liberation? I hope you will love it when your partner is this much liberated.
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Then we would go our separate ways. Now, women don't have to get married. I hope you're this hard on the men during Lily's time.
Really like the new format,and so looked forward to all your new stories,Gainesville,Ga USA
Thanks very much :)
I like the fact in those days it was such a scandal that a woman did what she wanted to do but for the man it was fine to have an affair.
You present these notable women unusually well. Thank you. You might be interested in Mattie Thweatt Dube', who was born in Alabama and made a name for herself as a member of the Paris salon. She stopped painting in 1912 when her daughter Theodora died, and her fate afterwards is unclear. She might have died in Monte Carlo during WWII. Her life is especially difficult to establish with certaintity because of the conflicting information which she herself generated.
Listening to this video from lake county in northern California I have no idea that one of our vineyards was related to Lily Langtry thank you for another enjoyable and informative video. 💯😊
Thanks for watching :)
Very good story. I had heard of her but i never knew of her colourful life. Very interesting.Clearly read.
I wonder if she would be considered a beauty today. Interesting how standards change. Same thoughts about Mae West. Fantastic presentation. Thank you so much!
I'm both in awe and jealous of ladies from different centuries living the most colourful lives
This story reminds me of a BBC drama I’ve seen a few times called The Duchess of Duke Street. If you dins it, it is a great drama.
What a lovely picture by your name. Just wanted to let you know.
Watched this series long ago ,loved it 🇬🇧💯❤️⭐️
This Englishman, the Prince, had many mistresses, he was promiscuous, and got syphilis. God help any woman that had an affair with this creature.
100% agreed. What a nasty disease too!
So if you believe your gossip Lilly's passed it on to all her lovers
Your stupid gossip makes no sence
Many thanks. I always wondered what Lillie Langtry (great name) looked like. You sort of left out the part where she toured the SW of the U.S. and Judge Roy Bean fell in love with her. I do admire Langtry for her spunk and sense of adventure.
I'm so enjoying these short stories 👍
Really enjoyed this story.” Great work friend🤘
Glad you enjoyed it
Fascinating! Thanks again.
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Thank you! Will do!
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She was one of the few figures who had a relatively better ending than most of the others you have featured.
quite a restless spirit. and LOTS of affairs for a girl of time.
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Errrrr she was just a free spirit, why is that a bad thing? Good for her she did her own thing, she didn't bow down and conform like a sheep lol she had a great life she did so much with her life and I really admire her
@@luciddreamer4938 affairs are a bad thing?? When did we start justifying affairs now? Now don't pull the out the "men during that time had affairs too" because I'm not refuting that too because I honestly find it as disgusting. Also she was not the only women like this, most people people whitin high society have been having affairs with each other despite having spouses since hundreds of yrs back even women and it doesn't make it any less disgusting or bad.
@@yxnotmin9814 ok whatever you say judgie mcjudgerson 😂wow chill the f out you'll give yourself a heart attack, have a spliff and relax Ms uptight 🤣
@@luciddreamer4938 What’s a “spliff”?
In a hundred years time few of the celebrities that we pay attention to and esteem so highly, including those who merit it, will be any better remembered or recognized than Lillian Langtree is today - and feel free to take your pick of the best known names and personalities of the day. I knew her name and some of her story due almost entirely to the British docudrama about her that was made a few decades ago, but I think that few people living today would have any idea who she was.
"Lillie Langtry" makes a brief appearance in two classic Hollywood Westerns as the "Ideal Woman/Goddess:"
The Westerner (Gary Cooper)
The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean'(Paul Newman)
Ava Gardner played her in Judge Roy Beam .
@@bak-mariterry9143 Lilian Bond played her in "The Westerner" way back in 1940. And Francesca Annis played her in a BBC/PBS TV miniseries in the 1970s.
Fabulous. Love the biographies of women . . many female artists and writers and muses yet to explore ! hint hint ;)
Sad thing is those women who were muses, where active sexually with those doing photos and paintings. They wound up broken hearted after sexual relationship with them - sometimes getting pregnant. Some turned to drugs or suicide.
What a fantastic story I never new her life was so amazing she was a woman before her time but did she ever find true love maybe she did thank you for this interesting story of her life Sending Best Wishes to you Marie Dublin Ireland
Glad you enjoyed :)
Thank you for your comment so kind of you I am looking forward to seeing more of your story's Wishing you all the best Marie Dublin Ireland
Excellent story FL
Glad you enjoyed it
What an interesting woman! I’m so glad she had a good life & didn’t come to ruin over all those affairs, whew!
I have studied this period of society deeply because of a personal interest, and it had a lot of negative connotations. "High society" had terribly low morals and many people suffered because of this. Shame on them! :(
Pictures of Lilly made my life so wonderful
Pictures of Lilly helped me sleep at night
Pictures of Lilly solved my childhood problems
Pictures of Lilly made me feel alright -The WHO!
Did Judge Roy Bean ever meet Lily Langtry?
In 1882, he moved to southwest Texas, where he built his famous saloon, the Jersey Lilly, and founded the hamlet of Langtry. ... Bean had never met Langtry, but he had developed an abiding affection for the beautiful actress after seeing a drawing of her in an illustrated magazine.
Good presentation as usual, 1903 'On The Margate Boat' sung by Lily Langtry,the only ever song recorded I think😕
I think her beauty was in her figure and perhaps her eyes, she seems to have had a perfect hourglass figure even without a corset.
Also her exquisite nose.
It was said she used to go out with her carriage and jog. She was ahead of her time.
What a girl ..... I wish those old black and white photos could truly capture her renowned beauty.
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Glad you enjoy it!
I’d love to see a story about Aimee Semper McPherson, a female evangelist in the
1920’s who disappeared.
Will check it out !
That’s a great suggestion. I know where her Temple was in Echo Park, Los Angeles California.
Thank you for this. Really interesting lady. TV adaptation with Francesca Annis was quite good also. Any further uploads would be great!
Thank you for another fascinating video!
Thanks as usual :)
Great vlog as always! A forgotten life for the people of today are my follow country «woman» Sonja Henie. A few years a go there was a documentary made about her. It is great!
Thanks very much, I'll look into it !
dld you know the house the king bought her is a hotel in Bournemouth,, its a beautiful house called Langtry Manor
Langtry Manor give the impression that Lily lived there for most of her life, and was visited by the King though out his life.
@@jrr832 I used to walk passed the house everyday but I never went in.. I only knew it had once belonged to her
Enjoyed this very much . Thankyou !!
Thanks!
I truly enjoy your videos
Nicely done. I learned a lot. Thank you.
Glad to hear!
When Rupert Potter was mentioned, I am pretty sure that was the same Rupert Potter who was the father of Beatrix Potter. He wore his sideburns just like that, and his first name was also Rupert.