How GOOD was Kyogre ACTUALLY? - History of Kyogre in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)

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  • Kyogre is this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Kyogre in competitive Pokemon!
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:09 - ADV/Gen 3
    3:08 - DPP/Gen 4
    6:18 - Gen 4 VGC
    7:25 - BW/Gen 5
    9:24 - XY/Gen 6
    11:37 - Gen 6 VGC
    13:53 - SM/Gen 7
    14:52 - VGC Gen 7
    17:50 - Outro
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    DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
    Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
    To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
    To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
    For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @acc3209
    @acc3209 5 років тому +4864

    "Oh my 399 SpaAtk, 150 power move boosted by STAB, rain and Specs isn't strong enough" I love you Kellen, and another great video for the list as always

    • @HintedImage
      @HintedImage 5 років тому +380

      You right. Gotta throw in a Helping Hand too-

    • @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989
      @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 5 років тому +145

      Give it water bubble too.

    • @umwhoalol
      @umwhoalol 5 років тому +81

      Timid was kind of an issue, ferrothorn, girarina, chansey, the lati twins, the "checks" would actually be able to check it if tried to run timid, so youd try to hide whether or not it was timid or modest or specs or scarf by going for the either way ohkos and hitting a check at a critical moment when its too late for the check to start recovering it off, outspeeding a giratina or another kyogre with timid, outpowering the others with modest.
      It shouldnt be understated that timid and modest kyogres had to be played differently

    • @EinsteinJR2
      @EinsteinJR2 5 років тому +10

      @@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 That would lesser the Power unless rain is already active.

    • @justarandommimikyu8474
      @justarandommimikyu8474 5 років тому +6

      Far Rightist Only one? You’re going to need 3 at least.

  • @rowletmaboi
    @rowletmaboi 5 років тому +3416

    the gen 4 footage is just a compilation of Kyogre nuking everything with water spout xD

    • @tesorosdetinkertown8310
      @tesorosdetinkertown8310 5 років тому +363

      That pretty much sums Gen 4 Ubers

    • @TraumaCenter13
      @TraumaCenter13 5 років тому +35

      @@tesorosdetinkertown8310 exactly

    • @KW-12
      @KW-12 5 років тому +64

      Reminds me of the Final Battle with the Magician with a Kyogre which was a pain in the ass to beat.

    • @kazoorion7993
      @kazoorion7993 5 років тому +26

      That's becaus it's one of it's biggest niches.

    • @HeilRay
      @HeilRay 5 років тому +37

      The water park era.

  • @stevenmattrell3448
    @stevenmattrell3448 5 років тому +1522

    4:27 Me when my 399 special attack, 150 base power move boosted by stab, rain, and choice specs just isn’t strong enough.

  • @chaosbreaker657
    @chaosbreaker657 5 років тому +2865

    Hey Kellen, here's an idea that I've been thinking about. What about discussing how good was certain status ailments (sleep, paralysis, poison etc.) actually. Like discussing how certain status mechanics worked per generation (example being how and why Toxic wasn't used much in Gen 1, but ended up being prevalent in the generations to come), as well as viability in competitive play (like how often was it used, and which Pokemon or teams used it often) per generation. If it doesn't eat much of your time, I'd love to see the history of certain status ailments in competitive play. Of course, you'll discuss only one status ailment per video.
    That's all, and excellent job as always. Keep up the good work ^_^

    • @linoinkyplantythingy
      @linoinkyplantythingy 5 років тому +147

      Great idea!
      I'd post this to the community post too for better visibility.

    • @quiescent3775
      @quiescent3775 5 років тому +24

      yes yes yes yes :D

    • @nelsondaily
      @nelsondaily 5 років тому +17

      Good idea!
      Sounds really interesting!

    • @chaosbreaker657
      @chaosbreaker657 5 років тому +28

      @@linoinkyplantythingy Although I won't expect it too soon, as Kellen has another Pokemon to review for this month. Though I'd like to see this sometime in the future.
      Thank you, though :)

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 років тому +3

      Terrible idea.

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 5 років тому +1159

    Kyogre was so good that you pretty much couldn't make a competitive team for a while without having something that counters it, or just using the big blue fish itself.

    • @cyrt2889
      @cyrt2889 3 роки тому +36

      something that "counters" it, oh boy.

    • @jonathandarvill8757
      @jonathandarvill8757 3 роки тому +61

      Doesn’t get ohkod is probably the correct term.

    • @nugraha7463
      @nugraha7463 3 роки тому +4

      oh god oh no it happening again rn help oh god oh no

    • @karpadorangler361
      @karpadorangler361 3 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/lVqs-QoQjAU/v-deo.html

    • @gameuniverse8736
      @gameuniverse8736 3 роки тому +4

      HE'S A WHALE YOU FOOL!!!!!

  • @woogachan
    @woogachan 5 років тому +453

    When in doubt,
    Choice scarf water spout kyogre it out

    • @gabriellk
      @gabriellk 5 років тому +1

      Came here looking for this hahah

    • @Reshi9984
      @Reshi9984 5 років тому +2

      TM*

    • @Mayank-mf7xr
      @Mayank-mf7xr 5 років тому +3

      you are a mam of culture op

    • @impulse1228
      @impulse1228 5 років тому +1

      Boi u should have added who made that quote which is thegarbodor u are plagarizing

    • @woogachan
      @woogachan 5 років тому +2

      @@impulse1228 I forgot sorry :(

  • @raindropsr9892
    @raindropsr9892 5 років тому +874

    Me: How GOOD was Kyogre ACTUALLY ?
    False Swipe Gaming: *YES*

    • @0rcinus_orca22
      @0rcinus_orca22 5 років тому +8

      You haven't even watched the video yet...

    • @ThumberBulls6
      @ThumberBulls6 5 років тому +55

      LubbaForLife You don't really have to watch the video to know if Kyogre is great or not..

    • @SShaBazzz
      @SShaBazzz 5 років тому +6

      @@0rcinus_orca22 Dude, Kyogre controls the seas and can put the world in an endless flood. It's not much more powerful you can get until you get to Gen4.

    • @acekun6493
      @acekun6493 5 років тому

      Yeah, that and Specs Kyogre in Ubers.

    • @pokemongamemasterHD
      @pokemongamemasterHD 5 років тому +1

      I don’t wanna change the likes because this comment has 399 likes and that’s to perfect.

  • @clementlin552
    @clementlin552 5 років тому +879

    Ferrothorn is such a recurring character in this show it deserves its own spinoff

    • @harb1ng3r82
      @harb1ng3r82 4 роки тому +91

      Now I’m just imagining a competitive Pokémon sitcom. WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH KYOGRE BEING UNCOUNTERABLE?

    • @donaldhenderson7703
      @donaldhenderson7703 2 роки тому +19

      @@harb1ng3r82 LOL then Groudon says I just don’t know

    • @strangehobbyist4953
      @strangehobbyist4953 2 роки тому +10

      @@harb1ng3r82 Zekrom's bolt strike is the best counter to Kyogre. It can switch in to it's water STAB moves and fry.

    • @Karsow2054
      @Karsow2054 2 роки тому +9

      And it’s own spinoff it did get

    • @dhruvhosali2416
      @dhruvhosali2416 2 роки тому

      And now it has one.
      Well it’s more like the main show now

  • @aminadabbrulle8252
    @aminadabbrulle8252 5 років тому +1667

    Complete FSG evaluation so far:
    1. Charizard - pretty decent
    2. Venusaur - consistently good
    3. Unown - I don't know, who cares
    4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre
    5. Dragonite - incredible
    6. Starmie - great
    7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off
    8. Gengar - phenomenal
    9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down
    10. Gyarados - pretty good
    11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon
    12. Machamp - decent
    13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat
    14. Lapras - not that good
    15. Articuno - even more not that good
    16. Zapdos - pretty damn good
    17. Moltres - better than I expected
    18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him
    19. Aerodactyl - decent
    20. Nidoking - pretty good
    21. Scizor - great
    22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing
    23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit
    24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six
    25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good
    26. Smeargle - pretty good
    27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles
    28. Golbat/Crobat - OK
    29. Slowbro - pretty good
    30. Wigglytuff - outclassed
    31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good
    32. Porygon-Z - OK
    33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really
    34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything
    35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying
    36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving
    37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good
    38. Poliwrath - not great
    39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon
    40. Umbreon - pretty decent
    41. Ampharos - wasn't that good
    42. Cloyster - pretty damn good
    43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming
    44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good
    45. Pikachu - pretty bad
    46. Raichu - pretty bad
    47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest
    48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing
    49. Gardevoir - up and down
    50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome
    51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious
    52. Typhlosion - not great
    53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know
    54. Meganium - sucks
    55. Dunsparce - sucked
    56. Donphan - pretty dang average
    57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good
    58. Vaporeon - pretty good
    59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks
    60. Metagross - incredible
    61. Salamence - amazing
    62. Swampert - good
    63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now
    64. Wobbuffet - hard to say
    65. Sceptile - pretty below average
    66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement
    67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while
    68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect
    69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon
    70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right?
    71. Mew - really good
    72. Lucario - really strong
    73. Kangaskhan - OK
    74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining
    75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind
    76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force
    77. Suicune - as good as it is regal
    78. Raikou - pretty good
    79. Entei - not that good
    80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick
    81. Ninetales - not very good at all
    82. Gallade - pretty decent
    83. Tangela/Tangrowth - among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick
    84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad
    85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever
    86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK
    87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable
    88. Persian - sucked after first generation
    89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was
    90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers
    91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time
    92. Muk - pretty alright
    93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history
    94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball
    95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon
    96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU
    97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon
    98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side
    99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media
    100. Infernape - overall, pretty good
    101. Sandslash - went from being decent to despondent
    102. Empoleon - pretty great
    103. Ho-Oh - pretty good
    104. Mawile - for its first three generations, seriously awful, but then become one of the biggest threats around
    105. Torterra - wasn't fantastic
    106. Golem - not all Pokemon can be amazing, and it is a prime example
    107. Shedinja - honestly pretty terrible
    108. Rayquaza - only superlatives describe how powerful it was
    109. Ditto - may not be the best in the older games
    110. Scyther - in the grand scheme of things, awful
    111. Staraptor - one of the best non-OU Pokemon of all time
    112. Lopunny - quite decent
    113. Ludicolo - wherever best aplicable has made its trainers jubilant
    114. Slowking - wasn’t a superstar, but was a solid overall Pokemon, and it deserves some pants
    115. Nidoqueen - her reign has been fruitful
    116. Pinsir - functioning quality, then launched into successful territory
    117. Murkrow/Honchkrow - the Sopranos of Pokemon weren’t great, but they had their place
    118. Claydol - victim of power creep
    119. Groudon - amazing and then some
    120. Kyogre - every bit as amazing as its legendary status would suggest
    and then some

    • @manongraymond5481
      @manongraymond5481 5 років тому +31

      Nice

    • @Seajojo
      @Seajojo 5 років тому +25

      Nice! I liked for your work!👌👍

    • @hann5985
      @hann5985 5 років тому +28

      What a mad lad

    • @acc3209
      @acc3209 5 років тому +99

      Keep coping and pasting this comment throughout the next videos so we can deliver when the last of all Pokémon is done (although it'll take a while)

    • @nunooliveira1728
      @nunooliveira1728 5 років тому +25

      I believe the veredict for scyther was that it wasn't that good and that it was still solid in PU, what isn't saying much, but not an aweful result for a not fully evolved pokemon

  • @halberd-3291
    @halberd-3291 3 роки тому +610

    Kyogre, upon not being in Sword and Shield: “My son... I can no longer destroy in the rain like I could... continue on in my stead.”
    Dracovish: *nom*

    • @meghanaingleshwar
      @meghanaingleshwar 3 роки тому +8

      Kyogre-primal will clash with groudon-primal once again!

    • @GoldRichness
      @GoldRichness 3 роки тому +30

      meghanaingleshwar not yet. That's the thing

    • @michaelsnyman2800
      @michaelsnyman2800 3 роки тому +12

      @@meghanaingleshwar we dont know if primals are coming back or not. Hopefully it does alongside megas

    • @Umayyasupremacy
      @Umayyasupremacy 3 роки тому +18

      @@michaelsnyman2800 Primal groudon is needed to check zacian, imagine wishing for primal groudon to return so much lmao, that's how stupidly broken zacian is

    • @michaelsnyman2800
      @michaelsnyman2800 3 роки тому

      @@Umayyasupremacy trick room fixes that my friend

  • @acc3209
    @acc3209 5 років тому +346

    Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza (even on their standard forms) are probably the strongest trio of Pokémon ever, I don't think that they needed upgraded forms but whatever, btw the designs are just amazing

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 5 років тому +66

      with their forms weather trio competitively are the strongest pokemon in the entire pokedex with things like xerneas being close

    • @andersonweir11
      @andersonweir11 4 роки тому +12

      Yep glad ruby was first game.i agree weather trio was most dominant .xerneas gemoncy.yvetal wing and zygarde power probaly 2nd.gira dial palk good one too

    • @stygiandragon3865
      @stygiandragon3865 3 роки тому +45

      This shows even in competitive, Groudon and Kyogre are both fighting for their respective weather. Just like anywhere else.

    • @RiOSquINTos
      @RiOSquINTos 2 роки тому +2

      finally a person who understands me

    • @rohakdebnath8985
      @rohakdebnath8985 Рік тому +5

      Weather trio > Life trio > Zacian crowned and Calyrex Shadow from Galar.

  • @newsupermariobros2862
    @newsupermariobros2862 5 років тому +668

    Primal Groudon:You can not defeat me
    Primal Kyogre:I know,But he can
    Golduck:Wassup
    Groudon:*Gets drowned*

    • @jimi_jams
      @jimi_jams 5 років тому +22

      Nice to see The Garbodors love.

    • @stevenmattrell3448
      @stevenmattrell3448 5 років тому +12

      Centaur Man 2
      Golduck is best legendary

    • @padstah3747
      @padstah3747 5 років тому +12

      golduck should be in every ubers team even though it is pu

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 років тому +44

      "We have an army!"
      "We have a duck."

    • @KageNoTenshi
      @KageNoTenshi 5 років тому +18

      Rayquaqua is somewhere up in the sky laughing

  • @NuxTaku
    @NuxTaku 5 років тому +2115

    Kyogre is dummy thicc tho

  • @Blaziken36
    @Blaziken36 5 років тому +511

    RIP primals 2014-2019

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 5 років тому +129

      GregorianLad 134 they are getting rid of megas, so it’s probable. That is, if the weather trio even gets to make it into the Galar Pokédex.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 років тому +97

      Sword and Shield's cutting out Megas, Primals, and Z-moves.

    • @SharyK-_0
      @SharyK-_0 5 років тому +77

      F dynamax

    • @monkey_blu
      @monkey_blu 5 років тому +87

      @@Squishyboyseth yeah, because you couldn't go to the appropriate tiers to play with your ideal meta.

    • @CylonDorado
      @CylonDorado 5 років тому +8

      Gengarzilla Those were kind of dumb anyway, except Megas for otherwise bad Pokémon.

  • @mirewalker
    @mirewalker 5 років тому +433

    Kyogre always reminds me of that conspiracy about the noise in the sea louder than anything ever recorded, the Bloop. I could just picture a gigantic Kyogre-like creature being the cause of it.

    • @thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938
      @thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938 5 років тому +1

      Satanael_CTGO
      💀💀💀

    • @zacharycrater2588
      @zacharycrater2588 5 років тому +48

      @Airock the Great when I learned that most pokemon are small I got so sad. I envisioned kyogre and it's legendary counterparts to be huge for the most part. I'm taller than most pokemon :/

    • @shatteredsentient5321
      @shatteredsentient5321 5 років тому +1

      BLOOP?

    • @mirewalker
      @mirewalker 5 років тому +14

      EresirThe1st An ice shelf crashing is much quieter than the recorded Bloop. It’s still unknown what it truly was. The ice was a theory.

    • @TacNuke951
      @TacNuke951 5 років тому +10

      @@mirewalker Except the scientific consensus is that it was an ice quake

  • @bootortle
    @bootortle 5 років тому +306

    Kyogre is the best of the best
    Awesome design, great stats, it's a beautiful orca boy

    • @Seajojo
      @Seajojo 5 років тому +25

      It's my favourite legendary!!

    • @funkaydingo4151
      @funkaydingo4151 5 років тому +6

      @@Seajojo my favorite as well

    • @woahdude5553
      @woahdude5553 4 роки тому +12

      my favorite legendary is regigigas... just because of the sounds it makes in Hoopa & The Clash of ages.
      and also the design is great

    • @sleepingzoro7530
      @sleepingzoro7530 3 роки тому +2

      woah dude
      It is my favorite Pokémon. But competitively...
      Yeah.

    • @anonymousgoji
      @anonymousgoji 3 роки тому +2

      That smile though

  • @Mpoil777
    @Mpoil777 5 років тому +67

    This legendary trio really made an immense impact on the meta game.
    Every single one of them changed the meta in their own way.
    Especially with the primal forms.

  • @llamaryder1
    @llamaryder1 5 років тому +720

    who would win:
    an entire tier of all of pokemon's fiercest opponents too strong for even the most competitive tier of overused threats
    or
    one fishy boi

    • @travelandwatchcouple
      @travelandwatchcouple 5 років тому +18

      you know the answer my man, it‘s your boi.

    • @kingsucc13
      @kingsucc13 5 років тому +81

      Isn't it technically one whaly boi

    • @Lauren_C
      @Lauren_C 5 років тому +7

      Not counting z-moves, Pikachu would probably actually find a niche in such a hypothetical metagame as the Kyogre killer.

    • @monkey_blu
      @monkey_blu 5 років тому +18

      Whales are not fish.

    • @ngh9025
      @ngh9025 5 років тому +5

      one fishy boi

  • @atharputra538
    @atharputra538 3 роки тому +14

    2:47 damn deoxys got the whole bakery

  • @stevenmattrell3448
    @stevenmattrell3448 3 роки тому +34

    Me when I found out that Kyogre can learn thunder: “Cowabunga it is.”

  • @kingsucc13
    @kingsucc13 5 років тому +399

    Will another "How good was the ... type actually" ever happen?

    • @fernandoguillenperez7686
      @fernandoguillenperez7686 5 років тому +13

      I want to see the fighting type

    • @AlphaladZXA
      @AlphaladZXA 5 років тому +16

      I want to see the steel type

    • @amiablereaper
      @amiablereaper 5 років тому +2

      @D2o40 Akz gen V dragon was stronger IMO

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 років тому +24

      The ... type probably wasn't all that great. It had only one attack to its name, and no pokémon that bore it, making it pretty situational, if you ask me.
      I wonder if he'll ever say how good the Bird type was actually. I've heard it was crazy good. Like, literally game-breaking.

    • @nerothewateruser8030
      @nerothewateruser8030 5 років тому +9

      @@jaschabull2365 heh, I liked that joke

  • @alexjohnmason7107
    @alexjohnmason7107 3 роки тому +46

    Alternate title: HOW OP WAS KYOGRES WATER SPOUT ACTUALLY?

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 3 роки тому +2

      kyogres water spout can fire in spurts

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ 5 років тому +85

    Thus closes out the most dominant mascot trio of Pokémon in the series. DonRayOgre is the best.

  • @the_bookworm8281
    @the_bookworm8281 5 років тому +39

    0:48 "In Pokemon XD: The Ludicolo Chronicles Volume Two-- I, I mean Gale of Darkness."
    lmao

  • @zeropatience7825
    @zeropatience7825 5 років тому +298

    Nobody:
    Kyogre: I'm about to make it rain on this man's whole carreer

  • @TheMacroShow
    @TheMacroShow 5 років тому +1025

    No Wailord? Oh whale...

    • @monkey3101
      @monkey3101 3 роки тому +3

      B r u h macro

    • @yaboyj09
      @yaboyj09 3 роки тому +2

      Macro?? Didnt expect to see you here

    • @berkay4903
      @berkay4903 3 роки тому +7

      Macro
      *snaps*eyy

    • @matthewreeves273
      @matthewreeves273 3 роки тому +4

      Are you that apex guy

    • @alexdrake4081
      @alexdrake4081 3 роки тому

      @@matthewreeves273 not that Apex guy. THE apex guy

  • @cocomunga
    @cocomunga 5 років тому +43

    Kyogre has great stats everywhere and summons rain. It could never be anything but extremely powerful.

  • @basedbarackobama
    @basedbarackobama 5 років тому +64

    Them: use skill swap to restart rain
    Me: use skillswap to get Mega Launcher for Origin Pulse.

  • @Reereez4795
    @Reereez4795 5 років тому +20

    I absolutely love how Pokémon has managed to keep the legendary weather trio of Gen 3 relevant in the meta for so long. Such iconic legendaries, and definitely my favorite!

  • @xScatmanChris86
    @xScatmanChris86 5 років тому +105

    My all-time favorite legendary. Mascot of my first Pokémon game, which is also my birthstone and favorite color. Kyogre will always be top-tier in my heart

    • @TraumaCenter13
      @TraumaCenter13 5 років тому +8

      Me too, all my friends were on Groudon bandwagon while I stick with Kyogre.

    • @blaires5895
      @blaires5895 4 роки тому +3

      Me too. Kyogre has been my all time favorite legendary until now. I just really love this seas basin monster.

    • @imurderpeople9744
      @imurderpeople9744 3 роки тому

      Me too

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 4 роки тому +28

    Maybe it’s just that Kyogre was my first legendary Pokémon, but he’s still one of my top favorites. Gen 3 legendaries were so badass.

  • @Flamelance_Accendo
    @Flamelance_Accendo 5 років тому +71

    Kyogre's old cry was the absolute best before it was changed.

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому +13

      Metagross has a similar fate

    • @Samuel-qc7kg
      @Samuel-qc7kg 4 роки тому +11

      Rex4Smash Reshiram is the worst imo

    • @oqo3310
      @oqo3310 3 роки тому +1

      Meh, I prefer the new one

    • @toxicpoizon
      @toxicpoizon 2 роки тому +1

      primal cry is badass

  • @acc3209
    @acc3209 5 років тому +131

    I thought that you would at least mention that Shedinja is the best Kyogre counter in existence and our old friend Quagsire checks it like no other. But it's ok since you told us about that in their respective videos. Thanks Kellen for the effort!!!

    • @t3hmaniac
      @t3hmaniac 5 років тому +4

      wouldn't Ice Beam screw over Shedinja? I think Bug is weak to Ice.

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 5 років тому +9

      Gastrodon since BW is a better counter than Quagsire

    • @rossthemoss6827
      @rossthemoss6827 5 років тому +14

      Best way for primal Kyogre to counter Shedinja
      RUN Hp FIRE :)

    • @uriellopez6529
      @uriellopez6529 5 років тому +10

      @@rossthemoss6827 the move will fizzle out since it's ability negates fire attacks. I've seen toxic Kyogre so it's not totally impossible to counter l

    • @hunbi1875
      @hunbi1875 5 років тому +3

      @@uriellopez6529 thats only primal kyogre

  • @m.s.e.advanced2842
    @m.s.e.advanced2842 5 років тому +25

    When you think you're having a freindly match against your friend but he has both Primals and Mega Reiquaza on his team

  • @Moakmeister
    @Moakmeister 5 років тому +86

    Kyogre: “you cant defeat me.”
    Groudon: “i know. But he can.”
    Primal Groudon: “TREMBLE BEFORE ME, UBERS. I AM YOUR RECKONING.”

    • @V2ULTRAKill
      @V2ULTRAKill 5 років тому +15

      Skill Swap Bronzong: Get out of my ubers you fire ground twit
      Kyogre: My Friend is strong too

    • @Silentassassins229
      @Silentassassins229 2 роки тому +9

      Mega rayquaza at AG tier: amateurs

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 2 роки тому +1

      Golduck with cloud nine : 😗

    • @laimaoda8443
      @laimaoda8443 2 роки тому

      mega mewtwo:people do not recongise my power therefor i was locked in ubers while green snake got into ag and i shall release my wrath on you! coughs then uses psystrike to abliverate kyogre

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 2 роки тому

      *gains 4x water weakness*

  • @midnightmawile5535
    @midnightmawile5535 5 років тому +60

    Tapu Koko boosting Kyogre's Thunder Wave. OOF. Thats a new one 🤣

    • @gabinlanglais602
      @gabinlanglais602 5 років тому +2

      I didn't know Twave does damage xD

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 5 років тому +2

      @@gabinlanglais602 it makes me break my wall so not in game but I can assure you it definitely hurts

    • @gabinlanglais602
      @gabinlanglais602 5 років тому

      @@cooperm4185I trust you xD

    • @humbuckers1299
      @humbuckers1299 3 роки тому +2

      @@cooperm4185 the real wall-breaker

  • @Noelfriday
    @Noelfriday 5 років тому +141

    I always keep hearing about the Lati twins but no videos on them? Come on bro

    • @Godslayer5656
      @Godslayer5656 4 роки тому +10

      That may be why there are no videos so far, the Lati twins are just really good, and covering them would take a really long time.

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 4 роки тому +4

      I can imagine they were both way to OP for ADV and DPP

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 4 роки тому

      Ok have fun with that

    • @Noelfriday
      @Noelfriday 3 роки тому

      @person person
      Yea I watched it bro

  • @tyson123123123
    @tyson123123123 5 років тому +20

    It's kinda sad that our old friend Quagsire isn't mentioned in the video, which was one of, if not, the best Kyogre check in Gens 3 and 4.
    Amazing video overall Kellen, like always.

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 2 роки тому +1

      252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 192 SpD Quagsire: 140-165 (35.5 - 41.8%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
      That’s why. Ice Beam still hurts and Specs Ice Beam is worse.

    • @coletonbelcher
      @coletonbelcher 7 місяців тому

      ​@@bryanc1772three hit KO is kind of irrelevant to a pokémon that knows recover and toxic

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 місяців тому

      @@coletonbelcher in gen 4 yes but Gen 3 Quagsire doesn’t learn recover

  • @ketchupacket
    @ketchupacket 5 років тому +58

    Kyogre: *exists*
    Lugia: Am I joke to you?

    • @wilmer007
      @wilmer007 5 років тому +12

      you are if you aren't carrying Multiscale, Toxic, Whirlwind, Dragon Tail, Roost, Careful Nature and 252 Sp. Defense EVs. otherwise the joke is on Kyogre.

    • @mockshock6084
      @mockshock6084 4 роки тому +1

      Wait dragon tail and whirlwind

    • @Samuel-qc7kg
      @Samuel-qc7kg 4 роки тому

      Mockshock for taunt

  • @OrangeyChocolate
    @OrangeyChocolate 5 років тому +37

    Kyogre remains one of my favourite Pokémon, not just among legendaries. Its design is amazing, and its power is deserving of its status.

  • @Juswin33
    @Juswin33 5 років тому +4

    I don't play competitive Pokemon, but I find these videos fascinating and have been binge watching them. Some really neat information and I've learned more about certain Pokemon and what they can and cannot do well. Great content.

  • @antonioallen9504
    @antonioallen9504 5 років тому +14

    Kyogre is my baby. Being the first legendary I ever caught since sapphire was the first Pokémon game I ever completed. This Pokémon is very dear to me

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 5 років тому +23

    Pokémon Sapphire was my introduction to the series, so Kyogre holds a special place to me.
    Just when Primal Kyogre becomes Dynamaxed, I'll be scared.

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 5 років тому +43

    Short answer: It is Leviathan.
    Long answer: video above.

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja 5 років тому +4

    That glow Kyogre's model had in Battle Revolution looked so rad.

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 3 роки тому +21

    Kyogre in Gen 4 be like:
    "I fear no mon, but that thing...
    *insert image of Parasect here*
    _...it scares me."_

  • @Alex_Off-Beat
    @Alex_Off-Beat 5 років тому

    I'm amazed at how you've been able to consistently put these videos out every week for a couple of years now! I'd really like to see a behind the scenes/making of FSG video!

  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar 5 років тому +30

    And this is why I picked pokemon (alpha)sapphire

    • @lastofall3555
      @lastofall3555 5 років тому +4

      Primal Kyogre is ass compared to Primal Groudon

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому +2

      @@lastofall3555 but Kyogre can be good without being primal

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 роки тому

      xyzzy51273 Normal Groudon and Primal Groudon are both Uber

  • @fallenwayward
    @fallenwayward 5 років тому +10

    I would like to hear Kellen weigh in on the on the the galar dex only drama and possibly adress if effects it may have on the metagame, like creating power vaccums or creating uncounterd holes in the game.

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 3 роки тому +8

    honestly i think primordial sea and desolate land should both be in effect, but only strengthen the water and fire moves instead of making them fizzle.
    you know, because when groudon and kyogre were both awake in emerald the sky would rapidly change between heavy rain and intense sunlight

  • @Toni-uk4ks
    @Toni-uk4ks 5 років тому +1

    I always like your videos before even going through them.
    I just know it's gonna be awesome. :D

  • @ahipsterkiller516
    @ahipsterkiller516 5 років тому +1

    This was amazing, it feels good to wake up on Sunday and watch a video of your all time favorite Pokémon.

  • @gilbertguerrero2916
    @gilbertguerrero2916 5 років тому +21

    How good was Dialga ACTUALLY?
    I think it’s time to cover the 4th gen box art mascots. So yeah creation trio FTW

    • @Bronzor_
      @Bronzor_ 5 років тому +2

      Good choice, but you have to vote for it on the community tab.

    • @gilbertguerrero2916
      @gilbertguerrero2916 5 років тому +1

      I’ve never actually voted for the next Pokemon. I just assumed he looked at the comments section/patreon for the picks. Thank you for letting me know!

    • @Bronzor_
      @Bronzor_ 5 років тому +1

      @@gilbertguerrero2916 np

  • @LSIS12345
    @LSIS12345 5 років тому +19

    when your 399 special attack, 150 base power move boosted by stab, rain, only has 101.9% to OHKO...😭

  • @badboyeben7881
    @badboyeben7881 5 років тому

    These videos always brighten up my Sundays

  • @IssaaccKoh
    @IssaaccKoh 5 років тому

    Your videos are awesome . Keep it up!

  • @JustInCaseD
    @JustInCaseD 5 років тому +32

    He protec
    He attac
    But most of all
    He bring the rain bac

  • @sosukeaizen7056
    @sosukeaizen7056 5 років тому +11

    Yup, the Weather Trio were, is and will continue to be *Top Tier*

  • @benjaminc3911
    @benjaminc3911 5 років тому +2

    I’ve been waaay to addicted to watching these vids to the point my whole recommended is just these vids

  • @Zorua3
    @Zorua3 5 років тому +53

    And now, with Megas (and presumably Primals) wiped from Gen 8, Kyogre will be back on top of Kyogre v Groudon.
    ...Assuming that it's even in the game.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 5 років тому +3

      Making a looooot of assumptions there friend...

    • @TraumaCenter13
      @TraumaCenter13 5 років тому +2

      Yeah I was pissed when they said that not all Pokemon is transferrable.

    • @Zorua3
      @Zorua3 5 років тому +12

      @@webbowser8834 I've made two. Perhaps our definitions of "a lot" are different.

    • @deltaflash7889
      @deltaflash7889 4 роки тому +1

      I swear to god if they remove primal forms

    • @hectorborrero4672
      @hectorborrero4672 4 роки тому +1

      @@deltaflash7889 they are removed

  • @darknight67nightron19
    @darknight67nightron19 5 років тому +5

    False Swipe Gaming: releases video on June 16
    Me: thanks for the birthday present!! 😁👍

    • @rsands8879
      @rsands8879 5 років тому

      Happy birthday!

    • @ayushwardhan7663
      @ayushwardhan7663 5 років тому

      Happy birthday! Hopefully you don't grow into orca fodder!!

  • @TheGamersState
    @TheGamersState 5 років тому +14

    Kyogre is still my favourite of the 3, don't get me wrong I love Groudon and Rayquaza but in terms of design, I just think Kyogre is the best 1.
    Hell, I actually played through Pokemon Ruby before Pokemon Sapphire just because I wanted to save the best for last.

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 5 років тому +1

    My favorite Pokemon!!!! Love you guys!!

  • @bruh6113
    @bruh6113 5 років тому

    These videos are really entertaining

  • @thatoneguy2960
    @thatoneguy2960 5 років тому +6

    I remember playing Pokémon sapphire it was my first ever game for the GBA(Game boy advance)/Ds LITE
    Getting kyogre was insane

  • @Forgeries
    @Forgeries 5 років тому +9

    Kyogre: No one can beat me
    Quagsire: Hold my beer

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 3 роки тому

      Parasect, Toxicroak, and Gastrodon: Allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 2 роки тому

      252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 192 SpD Quagsire: 140-165 (35.5 - 41.8%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
      Sure I can’t

  • @ATM9318
    @ATM9318 5 років тому +1

    I've been waiting for this one. Kyogre is my favourite legendary Pokemon! :D

  • @LadyLeomon
    @LadyLeomon 5 років тому +4

    My favourite Gen III Water Type Pokémon? My Sunday Yays have been doubled!
    Thanks for yet another *awesome* vid False Swipe 💙=^_^=💙

  • @somebodyrandomly
    @somebodyrandomly 2 роки тому +4

    He may be OP but boy does someone have to keep waking me up since Kyogre keeps fighting Groudon

  • @gabrielcastillo9745
    @gabrielcastillo9745 3 роки тому +3

    Gen 3: Groudon lures in Kyogre and hits it with a powerful earthquake.
    Gen 6: Primal Kyogre lures in Primal Groudon and hits it with a powerful earthquake
    Groudon: You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?

  • @quirkle7538
    @quirkle7538 5 років тому

    The best pokemon channel because its one of the most original in its presentation of its unique content

  • @Yurio9001
    @Yurio9001 8 місяців тому +2

    Referring to XD as the Ludicolo Chronicles Vol. 2 might be the best joke in this entire channel's history

  • @katialbert
    @katialbert 3 роки тому +6

    FSG: Always respect choice specs kyogre
    Me: You should also respect parasect

  • @SShaBazzz
    @SShaBazzz 5 років тому +11

    One of my 3 favorite legendaries of all time.
    1. Mewtwo
    2. Kyogre
    3. Girratina.

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому

      Kyogre and Giratina are my favourite legendaries too

    • @meme_guy924
      @meme_guy924 4 роки тому

      Mine are:
      1. Rayquaza
      2. Mewtwo
      3. Kyogre

    • @laimaoda8443
      @laimaoda8443 2 роки тому +1

      mewtwo is also my favourite not just legendary but it also my favourite pokemon

  • @HCRAYERT.
    @HCRAYERT. 5 років тому

    I love this series, keep it up.
    Can you do Parasect next?

  • @spinceiling7442
    @spinceiling7442 5 років тому

    Can't get enough of these uber videos. Been my go to tier since gen 3 and I love legendaries

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 5 років тому +32

    >the ludicolo chronicles 2
    >probably still has a bigger pkmn pool than sword/shield
    > :(

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 3 роки тому +6

    Kyogre: I'm super effective against you
    Groudon: I have stab Earthquake and resist stealth rock
    Kyogre: F***

  • @quadsocket
    @quadsocket 13 днів тому

    0:57 this has to be the single most badass frame in this video

  • @JonkoSlunko
    @JonkoSlunko 5 років тому

    Never get tired of these. I wasn't a fan of gen 3, but I seen kyogre and groundon to know I hated battling against them.

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 2 роки тому +3

    This episode being 19 minutes feels like a mercy.
    Kyogre and Groudon could likely have hour long episodes each.

  • @alexroth67
    @alexroth67 5 років тому +6

    While I was always a Groudon person myself, there is no denying that Kyorge has been one of the best of best since it's debut. One of the most dominant Pokemon ever.
    Also tfw that Gale of Darkness and Battle Revolution footage looks better than Sword and Shield.

  • @shichuanhoo3833
    @shichuanhoo3833 5 років тому

    PogChamp he delivered. Those weeks of waiting sure did pay off

  • @Dividus
    @Dividus 5 років тому

    I was literally looking up if you did a vid on kyogre this morning and here we are lmao

  • @Kaito-cm3cm
    @Kaito-cm3cm 5 років тому +3

    During the segment talking about Kyogre in VGC 2010, it was mentioned that Hitmontop used Wide Guard to support Kyogre, but the move Wide Guard wasn't introduced until Generation 5. It's by no means a big deal, just wanted to point it out!

  • @alcostello6114
    @alcostello6114 5 років тому +6

    I had no idea Kyorgre was so OP. Please make a “How good was Dialga” video!!!

    • @devilishyouth316
      @devilishyouth316 2 роки тому

      Ok that has to be a joke its ability causes rain increasing power it gets calm mind to increase special attack and special defense its signature move is 150 base power and is stab plus choice specs

    • @alcostello6114
      @alcostello6114 2 роки тому +2

      @@devilishyouth316 ok

  • @xaviertyack5640
    @xaviertyack5640 3 роки тому +2

    this makes me nostalgic, I want a Pokémon battle revolution style game on switch man

  • @shadyslims4006
    @shadyslims4006 3 роки тому +1

    Sapphire was my very first Pokemon game and I loved playing through it. And to this day Kyogre is my favorite legendary and with him and swampert, they are the reason water is my favorite type

  • @shadisoopsydoodle7298
    @shadisoopsydoodle7298 5 років тому +27

    Who will win?
    -A water god in the shape of a whale that can decimate entire lands just by existing
    or
    -Your math homework

  • @MACGUNESPLUSONE
    @MACGUNESPLUSONE 5 років тому +4

    I remember back in "the day", the good old mewtwo vs kyogre debate....

  • @riley8385
    @riley8385 5 років тому +2

    The first Pokémon game I played was Pokémon Ruby and since then Groudon has been my all time favorite legendary.

  • @RiOSquINTos
    @RiOSquINTos 2 роки тому +1

    yey
    a video of my favorite pokemon card and game
    (wait all pokemon games in this video that was mentioned i had on the 3ds and wii)

  • @missingno.6224
    @missingno.6224 5 років тому +10

    How good was Deoxys ACTUALLY?

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 4 роки тому +4

    Kyogre: You can't defeat me!
    Garchomp: I know, but he can.
    *Parasect bursts out of the mountain*

    • @danielotano8677
      @danielotano8677 3 місяці тому

      Ice beam and parasect does nothing else outside of the ogre

  • @oles9196
    @oles9196 5 років тому

    what i think is the most interessting thing are the Teams he mentioned in Gen 4. I bet this is nothing new for people who know much about Gen 4 VGC but the teams didnt decide between rain or sun but just did both and decided which one would be better in which situation. This is so mindblowing for me XD

  • @k3phrii
    @k3phrii 3 роки тому

    i always loved getting into a triple battle with primal groudon and kyogre on either side and mega rayquaza in the center

  • @The1_Static-X_Fan
    @The1_Static-X_Fan 5 років тому +4

    Primal Kyogre's theme was arguably the best of Alpha Sapphire's ost.

    • @saxonjedi5878
      @saxonjedi5878 5 років тому

      have to agree between out the primals themes i do prefer kyogres

  • @mallikcallueng2424
    @mallikcallueng2424 5 років тому +4

    How good was Reuniclus ‘Man who brought a shotgun to a bar fight’ actually?
    Cmon dude. It’s the first gen 5 Pokemon u may review. Make my dream come true

    • @unnamed7485
      @unnamed7485 5 років тому

      These comments should go on the occasional community post or Patreon. They won't be listened to here anymore.

  • @tsukimaru131
    @tsukimaru131 5 років тому

    Found an editing error at 5:10 with the frame :p still a pretty amazing video :D

  • @serge2cool
    @serge2cool 5 років тому

    This video is just in time for Kyogre's re-release into Pokemon GO! The raid nights on Wednesday for him are hype! GIT GUD Groudumb!