How GOOD was Greninja ACTUALLY? - History of Greninja in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 6-7)

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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  4 роки тому +3154

    The Patreon backers are crazy. We probably won't do more Gen 6+ Pokemon for a while. We still have to get through the first 5!

    • @Wolfism
      @Wolfism 4 роки тому +47

      False Swipe Gaming please False Swipe, cover the rest of the Kanto Pokemon 🙏🏻💫

    • @Gaurang_Karande
      @Gaurang_Karande 4 роки тому +10

      What about Gen 1 👌😲

    • @VoidDWG
      @VoidDWG 4 роки тому +11

      Man, I'm glad really liking these thiccc ass videos man. Thank you.

    • @nsbathome
      @nsbathome 4 роки тому +43

      Watch them pick Toxapex or Zygarde

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 4 роки тому +10

      Can see Mascot Aegislash get in after a few months.

  • @caldw615
    @caldw615 4 роки тому +2917

    Quickest match I ever had was with a Greninja. Opponent was using an Alolan Golem to start off and I sent out Greninja. I used Spikes which changed Gren to ground while Golem used Explosion with its ability turning it into an electric move, which Greninja survived due to changing to a ground type while Golem fainted. The other player disconnected straight after that.

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 4 роки тому +7756

    When the pokemon only existed for two generations but the video is almost a half an hour long you know its amazing.

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 роки тому +297

      and half of it's life was relegated to set hazards in ubers
      so I'd say it's more generation and a half

    • @leonardofarias8843
      @leonardofarias8843 4 роки тому +175

      All thanks to Protean and a exclusive upgrade form

    • @CryoJnik
      @CryoJnik 4 роки тому +65

      Or ridiculously busted

    • @gabrieldiniz8371
      @gabrieldiniz8371 4 роки тому +125

      It’s because of a magical word
      FAVOURITISM

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 роки тому +51

      Landorus t is 3 gens and it'll have 2 hours

  • @AnimeGames16
    @AnimeGames16 4 роки тому +4499

    You're telling me that Greninja got banned in ORAS solely for throwing trash bins at fairies?

    • @marcusdellow
      @marcusdellow 4 роки тому +831

      This should be Greninja’s Gen 8 Pokédex entry, “banned for throwing trash bins at fairies”.

    • @sansthedevil
      @sansthedevil 4 роки тому +265

      to be more precise, it had no safe counters/checks with the right movepool

    • @fork-man
      @fork-man 4 роки тому +54

      Why did they do that to our HERO

    • @byronlyons3548
      @byronlyons3548 4 роки тому +357

      Someone getting banned from competitive for _toxic_ behavior? Sounds about right.

    • @muddposs
      @muddposs 4 роки тому +10

      Marcus Dellow lol

  • @AtChiaPet
    @AtChiaPet 4 роки тому +3437

    Remember when people wanted Ash-Greninja gone from Gen 7?
    _Then Dracovish came in_

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 4 роки тому +488

      As overpowered as Dracovish is, I don't hate it for that, cuz I can predict it'll be nerfed to oblivion in gen 9 like it happened to Gengar and Talonlame.

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 роки тому +330

      Rev up the Seismitoads. We've got a Dracovish to handle.

    • @pissmaster8859
      @pissmaster8859 4 роки тому +384

      Ash-Gren actually has a moveset, Dracovish has one move it can click and profit, it makes me lose braincells

    • @_dave4681
      @_dave4681 4 роки тому +21

      Isn't Dracovish UUBL?

    • @thom9910
      @thom9910 4 роки тому +36

      We don't speak of he who must not be named

  • @wideMac7
    @wideMac7 4 роки тому +4022

    Gen 6 it was banned for being too good. In Gen 7 it gets even better but isn’t banned. Thank you power creep very cool

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 4 роки тому +163

      Protean is broken, pls ban.

    • @elvgamez3864
      @elvgamez3864 4 роки тому +316

      Imagine if gamefreak treated battle bond evolution like mega evolution cuz if they did they could just give ash-greninja protean cuz that’s how most mégas work like how venusaur starts with chlorophyll and gets thick fat after mega that would be so broken a protean 640 base stat total mon

    • @Darkstormsun9865
      @Darkstormsun9865 4 роки тому +125

      @@elvgamez3864 if it worked like a mega then it would actually stand a chance in ubers.

    • @coolyeh1017
      @coolyeh1017 4 роки тому +94

      @@sebas8225 and then they gave Libero to Cinderace, granted, Cinderace isn't as good as Greninja. Cinderace has two solid signature moves, pyro ball a physical fire blast that burns and court change which flips hazards and screens.

    • @tommyortega7796
      @tommyortega7796 4 роки тому +21

      @@coolyeh1017 court change is so fucking bs

  • @petelee2477
    @petelee2477 4 роки тому +2369

    Lol I love how the OU council freaked out when Greninja learned how to throw a trash can

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 роки тому +13

      ARTEM DORDZHIEV hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihh

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 роки тому +10

      Hihihihihihihih

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 роки тому +10

      Hihihi

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 роки тому +6

      Hi

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 роки тому +3

      Hi

  • @beydey2647
    @beydey2647 4 роки тому +3520

    How SUBTLE was GameFreak's favoritism ACTUALLY?

    • @andrewkos5560
      @andrewkos5560 4 роки тому +368

      They had to make up for it by snapping him out of Gen 8

    • @Gamesmarts194
      @Gamesmarts194 4 роки тому +411

      *points obnoxiously to Charizard
      Not at all I want to say.

    • @averytubestudios
      @averytubestudios 4 роки тому +27

      Not at all

    • @TurbulentBreak
      @TurbulentBreak 4 роки тому +372

      Honestly, both Charizard and Greninja got more than their fair share of pandering. The other Kanto starters at least were still blessed with a mega evolution and Gigantamax form in the Sword and Shield expansion packs while the other Kalos starters are left in the dust. Charizard is overhyped, but people still loved it even though it sucked in battle. Game Freak and TPC gave Charizard everything in response to its popularity.
      Meanwhile, Greninja got everything from the get-go. Greninja has the stats, movepool, and ability to do great in the competitive scene while Chesnaught and Delphox languish behind. Greninja also has a more appealing design than the other Kalos starters to most people. It got in Smash, was Ash's ace, and even got an exclusive form. Greninja was manufactured to become a popular Pokemon and it worked.
      This is coming from someone who has Greninja as one of my favorite Pokemon btw.

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 4 роки тому +4

      Andrew Kos he’ll be back

  • @josemansquito
    @josemansquito 4 роки тому +839

    someone: **has a name**
    FSG: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @hiei49
      @hiei49 4 роки тому +32

      Being myself from south America, i find it hilarious how he struggles to pronounce names like Sebastian Escalante lol

    • @kiyonobu2833
      @kiyonobu2833 4 роки тому +11

      FSG more like Substitute Teacher

    • @Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan
      @Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan 4 роки тому

      @@hiei49 do you know they don't speak Spanish

    • @EshamPlayz
      @EshamPlayz 3 роки тому +2

      670th Like

  • @LAZRGATR
    @LAZRGATR 4 роки тому +1321

    >"a cornucopia of coverage"
    That is undoubtedly the most uber tier line your writer has ever thought up in the competitive history of this channel.

    • @chaosbreaker657
      @chaosbreaker657 4 роки тому +194

      "...upgrade Bullet Punch from a rifle to a bona fide bazooka."
      - How GREAT was Scizor ACTUALLY?
      "...before being brutally beaten back by Brave Bird."
      - How GOOD was Staraptor ACTUALLY?
      "...BandedTar's power become even greater due to Stone Miss - I mean Stone Edge."
      - How GOOD was Tyranitar ACTUALLY?
      There are more, but these are some of my favorites.

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 роки тому +23

      Dynamic miss ......I mean dynamic punch

    • @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989
      @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 4 роки тому +6

      GUILE; Sonic Boom

    • @muhammadrizkywidyakusumoaj1594
      @muhammadrizkywidyakusumoaj1594 4 роки тому +34

      ".....a pokemon that outhaxorused Haxorus"
      -How GOOD was Haxorus ACTUALLY

    • @blaster.m1943
      @blaster.m1943 4 роки тому +34

      i submit quagsires verdict to that hall of fame of lines
      "So how good was quagsire actually? Man i don't fucking know"

  • @whatamidoing725
    @whatamidoing725 4 роки тому +931

    I feel like if greninja gets released into gen 8, cinderace will be a perfect partner with its libero ability, making a duo team called probero

    • @carreragt006
      @carreragt006 4 роки тому +79

      Perfection

    • @whatamidoing725
      @whatamidoing725 4 роки тому +27

      Ananya Gangavarapu it would probably dwarf landorous T

    • @Ace0-i
      @Ace0-i 4 роки тому +22

      Probero? I LOVE IT! lol

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 4 роки тому +101

      Don’t forget that Cinderace can get Ally Switch for even more mindgames

    • @aerohydreigon1101
      @aerohydreigon1101 4 роки тому +13

      Oh crap

  • @phantomblizzard7756
    @phantomblizzard7756 4 роки тому +1645

    Game Freak: Wanna see me give a starter a broken ability?
    *gives greninja protean*
    Game Freak: Wanna see me do it again?
    *gives cinderace libero*

    • @bigmounchi
      @bigmounchi 4 роки тому +126

      libero cinderace is so stupidly broken, if charizard can get into ubers why can't the stupid rabbit get banned there

    • @animegirl5980
      @animegirl5980 4 роки тому +8

      Alwin Cahyadi landorus incarnate

    • @parthacharya42069
      @parthacharya42069 4 роки тому +46

      Blaziken in particular getting speed boost is also broken but protean is better overall

    • @jambon2730
      @jambon2730 4 роки тому +62

      Serperior : a bad starter
      Game freak : here's contrary
      Serperior is actually the first one who get a broken ability

    • @parthacharya42069
      @parthacharya42069 4 роки тому +16

      @@jambon2730 serperior got contrary at gen 6 and blazike got speed boost at gen 5 i guess

  • @alexanderstilianov
    @alexanderstilianov 4 роки тому +847

    Water Pledge Greninja: What are you doing in my swamp?!

    • @windindi2834
      @windindi2834 4 роки тому +65

      RayQUADza

    • @nyoron39
      @nyoron39 4 роки тому +52

      @@windindi2834 I like FARQUADza better, but works as well.

    • @BigRedLeg
      @BigRedLeg 4 роки тому +21

      Lmfao i love this community

    • @Super_Smash_Dude
      @Super_Smash_Dude 4 роки тому +6

      You guys are awesome:)

    • @SandshrewEnthu1
      @SandshrewEnthu1 4 роки тому +7

      i will now name my greninja shrek

  • @elilopez6260
    @elilopez6260 4 роки тому +765

    Update: Libero Cinderace was banned from OU for doing the exact same thing as Gen 6 Protean Greninja

    • @lionelk.y7233
      @lionelk.y7233 4 роки тому +127

      Greninja from the ban wall: "first time?"

    • @crusaderofholyness2042
      @crusaderofholyness2042 4 роки тому +84

      The ban wall is now the cool kids club

    • @BlooperTanooki
      @BlooperTanooki 4 роки тому +97

      Cinderace is an absolute monster. Slower than Greninja, but sturdier and hits harder. Also benefits from Gigantamax's stat boosts and Gmax Fireball, which destroys Mimikyu's disguise. The king of single battles.

    • @crusaderofholyness2042
      @crusaderofholyness2042 4 роки тому +19

      That's why I call him my "4 feet tall killing machine"

    • @Butter_Warrior99
      @Butter_Warrior99 4 роки тому +8

      Bruh

  • @Eric4bz
    @Eric4bz 4 роки тому +395

    Ash Greninja is why I decided to get my own golisopod. Making a good First Impression was important as all hell.

  • @krishhiranandani7875
    @krishhiranandani7875 4 роки тому +681

    Back in my day there was this 10 year old with 20 years of experience who had a crazy Naruto Greninja
    He lost in some final to a mega Charizard x
    Then someone tried destroying the world but no one cared

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 4 роки тому +119

      Maybe he would have defeated Charizard if he were to spam Water Shuriken like a person with a brain would do. But seriously? Cut? CUT!?

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 4 роки тому +46

      @@cintronproductions9430 Dragon Resists Water. And Greninja is incredibly frail.

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 роки тому +93

      @@Nosretep Charizard is still neutral

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes 4 роки тому +107

      @@Nosretep tell that to the XY anime where Greninjas take no damage from leaf storms yet grass dragon types get completely beaten by water moves...

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 роки тому +29

      @@Nosretep neutral STAB from gren isn't anything to scoff at

  • @darthrevan5609
    @darthrevan5609 4 роки тому +95

    Gamefreak: You're a water and dark type
    Greninja: Its 2018 I can be what I want

  • @LoinkLoink
    @LoinkLoink 4 роки тому +351

    Greninja is a pokemon where you want to battle with it non-shiny. Shiny Ash-Greninja is impossible to legitimately get, so when I see people flexing their shiny Greninjas online, I easily know they're using Protean and can plan around that. It's a situation where your flex can become your downfall.

    • @sonicblaze24
      @sonicblaze24 4 роки тому +71

      Or a girl. BB was male only

    • @BigRedLeg
      @BigRedLeg 4 роки тому +27

      I like to sit outside for a while after my shower. It is peaceful

    • @Ego-Fiend
      @Ego-Fiend 2 роки тому +15

      It's too bad
      It's Shiny looks so dripped 👌

    • @pkmntrainerred4247
      @pkmntrainerred4247 3 місяці тому +1

      And honestly I think the non-shiny looks cooler

  • @turtlenator6249
    @turtlenator6249 4 роки тому +92

    Froakie was one of my favorite Pokémon from Gen 6 even before finding out it’s evolution. So glad he had some major success in the competitive scene.

  • @h0m3st4r
    @h0m3st4r 4 роки тому +262

    How GOOD were the starters ACTUALLY?
    Blaziken: (to all the other starters) "You're all vying for second place."
    Greninja: (to Blaziken) "Make that third place."

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 роки тому +37

      Ngl Greninja is easily better than Blaziken in both gen 6 and 7 Ubers so this meme would be much funnier if the roles were flipped.

    • @jeremyfaure1888
      @jeremyfaure1888 4 роки тому +9

      Meganium : Make that... Third place.

    • @sarmilaacharya318
      @sarmilaacharya318 4 роки тому +6

      Charizard : Make that good o'l 4th place

    • @zylen3167
      @zylen3167 4 роки тому +16

      Blastoise after getting Shell Smash in gen 8: "Make that 4th place."

    • @zylen3167
      @zylen3167 4 роки тому

      @ARTEM DORDZHIEV cinderace isnt better than gren. it could be good in uu tho. mega blastoise is banned from ou atm

  • @arlen7726
    @arlen7726 4 роки тому +681

    Imagine weather ball Greninja. That level of unpredictability would be insane.

    • @syazmanlyman
      @syazmanlyman 4 роки тому +101

      No dont give them ideas

    • @Oneiromancy
      @Oneiromancy 4 роки тому +57

      @@syazmanlyman Gen 9 would be great

    • @vibra7
      @vibra7 4 роки тому +30

      Or even better- Nature Power

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 4 роки тому +22

      How about both? 😈

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 4 роки тому +19

      I don’t think it would make it any more unpredictable if the weather was already out

  • @STAROCiDE
    @STAROCiDE 4 роки тому +408

    Libero cinderace: father? Is that you?

    • @meghanaingleshwar
      @meghanaingleshwar 4 роки тому +36

      StarLight Of MoonSide greninja:yes it is me son it very much is

    • @theepicgreninja5423
      @theepicgreninja5423 4 роки тому +14

      You will use my protean in another version as I am watieng for my god dam trainer to come back to me but I doubt he will

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist 4 роки тому +11

      I'm actually not sure why they didn't just give Cinderace Protean, I mean, they are literally the same thing. However Greninja had a better move pool to select from to have greater type coverages. As well as had more balanced attack vs attack stat (95 A, 103 SA) that made it possible to take it physical or special, while Cinderace has to go physical (116 A, 65 SA). Cinderace is still awesome with easily the single best looking G-Max form that makes me miss megas, but w/e I guess, I hope they come back at some point.

    • @averytubestudios
      @averytubestudios 4 роки тому +4

      Are they in the same egg group? If so yes. Definitely.

    • @BusterDash
      @BusterDash 3 роки тому +1

      He is all that remains of a once powerful nation. Right now, you're on the threshold of an amazing adventure

  • @orionsfate4909
    @orionsfate4909 2 роки тому +82

    It says a lot about Greninja when a video on it has nearly 30 minutes, when Delphox, a starter from the same gen, is 1/3 of the length. Just shows how much a great ability -and favoritism- can affect a mon.

    • @eyecontrol4900
      @eyecontrol4900 2 роки тому +29

      yea, i hate how gamefreak completely neglected the other 2 starters and gave so much to greninja. Delphox shouldve got magic guard or magic bounce as a dreamworld ability

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +1

      2 years separate those two videos, and another year separates Delphox and Chesnaught.

  • @fabg2416
    @fabg2416 4 роки тому +341

    His evolution across 2 generations, what a character develoment

    • @jjtheenton
      @jjtheenton 4 роки тому +29

      And yet there's still nearly 30 minutes of material lmao.

  • @why8308
    @why8308 4 роки тому +243

    Me: Finally, a gen 6 Pokémon! This should be pretty short!
    Also me: Looks at the time.

    • @rexyjp1237
      @rexyjp1237 4 роки тому +12

      What da f happend to the floor

    • @Bemw0
      @Bemw0 4 роки тому +4

      Rexyjp123 hi I’m bulbasaur

    • @ashopp9392
      @ashopp9392 4 роки тому +4

      @@Bemw0 and I'm squirtle

    • @Bemw0
      @Bemw0 4 роки тому +2

      Ved Prakash and this is Pokémon talk

    • @why8308
      @why8308 4 роки тому +3

      Ben Aldred You weren’t supposed to Finish the intro!

  • @adrienlust5927
    @adrienlust5927 4 роки тому +196

    "You know a pokémon is popular when it gets his own exclusive form"
    Meanwhile Audino

    • @masapeeta4140
      @masapeeta4140 4 роки тому +39

      Well Audino was memorable for how you might try to find groups of them for exp at some point in the game

    • @heplays2004
      @heplays2004 3 роки тому +23

      Audino is the only gen 5 pkmn that has mega evo

    • @achievedchair17
      @achievedchair17 3 роки тому +4

      And then there’s stunfisk

  • @Softcorns
    @Softcorns 4 роки тому +220

    The fact is that you can see Groudon in almost every single video.

  • @kyoyamurasaki9169
    @kyoyamurasaki9169 4 роки тому +328

    This is basically "How GOOD was Protean/Battle Bond ACTUALLY?"

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 роки тому +9

      Yeah we dont need greninja

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 роки тому +68

      Meanwhile Chesnaught and Delphox got almost nothing.

    • @mainakbiswas1758
      @mainakbiswas1758 4 роки тому +42

      I mean An ability definitely defines a Pokemon, There are some exceptions like Garchomp

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 4 роки тому +3

      That covers a lot of competitive Pokemon with the exception of most Psuedo Legendaries (except maybe the gen 3 ones once they got their megas).

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 роки тому

      @@mainakbiswas1758 I meant as a different form of the geration like mega evolution, which they didn't get for some reason.

  • @whoiskizuki.
    @whoiskizuki. 4 роки тому +156

    So Greninja got banned for being able to "Throw Trash at Fairies"?

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 4 роки тому +2

      Trash can

    • @yrrosi
      @yrrosi 4 роки тому +2

      Hello greatest loser

    • @redman4482
      @redman4482 4 роки тому +3

      You just copied another comment you loser

    • @berkay4903
      @berkay4903 3 роки тому +1

      @@redman4482 shut up you asshole

    • @redman4482
      @redman4482 3 роки тому +1

      @@berkay4903 no u

  • @cintronproductions9430
    @cintronproductions9430 4 роки тому +669

    Fun fact: Greninja has less Special Attack than flippin' ABRA. XD

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 роки тому +367

      Fun fact: Onix has less base attack than Oddish.

    • @yumxi8632
      @yumxi8632 4 роки тому +321

      Who hits harder. An elite water ninja whos been training for 30+ levels. Or. One shy psychic boi

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 роки тому +107

      someone watches mandjtv
      well mandjtv kinda forgot to mention that abra might be the best wallbreaker in LC. so we didn't really "miss" abra's crazy spA (although it's the speed that allows him to be so good)

    • @xaropevic7918
      @xaropevic7918 4 роки тому +73

      Or even worse, solosis is only a single green cell and has more special attack as well

    • @nightmarekinggrimm4064
      @nightmarekinggrimm4064 4 роки тому +15

      Not like Abra can use that sp. atk stat anyway

  • @genkaiba15
    @genkaiba15 4 роки тому +211

    Sad day to be a Delphox. You're the first non-fighting/fire in generations, and you get paired with Greninja...

    • @mectainea5575
      @mectainea5575 4 роки тому +37

      Gen Kaiba if only Delphox had magic bounce instead of magician as its hidden ability and a bit more coverage then at least it could of had some successes. Its a shame too because Delphox has great special attack, solid speed and special defence.

    • @Super_Smash_Dude
      @Super_Smash_Dude 4 роки тому +10

      It was a sad day when it looked at itself in the mirror.

    • @HaHaHaHolowence
      @HaHaHaHolowence 4 роки тому +5

      @@mectainea5575 *could have...

    • @blazefactor6849
      @blazefactor6849 4 роки тому +8

      @@mectainea5575 Maybe Magic Guard instead of Magic Bounce, it would give it safe Stealth Rock switches as well as let it use Life Orb without taking any tick damage. I'm not sure if we'd really want the Fox with Bounce powers, especially with how fast it is, how strong it is, and how many tools it has. Will-o-wisp, Trick Room, dual screens, Sunny Day, Calm Mind, Psychic Terrain, and Ally Switch, all on a mon that can reflect non-damaging moves? That'd be disgusting, especially Ally Switch in doubles. You could literally perma-deny status onto an important teammate by threatening with bounces and setup, along with your own decent damage output. Plus, while the Fox has some pretty nasty weaknesses (Ground, Rock, Ghost, Water, Dark), she also has some really good resistances (Fighting, Steel, Fire, Grass, Psychic, Ice, Fairy). She'd be hellish when paired with someone like Tapu Bulu, who would cover Ground, Rock, Water, and Dark, while also really appreciating someone who can take out Poison, Ice, and Steel types who would otherwise be hard for it to fight.

    • @mectainea5575
      @mectainea5575 4 роки тому +1

      @@blazefactor6849 I agree with all of this though I should of clarified my old comment of magic bounce as an example though magic guard works just as well for the reason you mentioned its just that either option would be far better than magician as a hidden ability. Also yea from what you mentioned, I can see magic bounce delphox to be a very irritating Pokémon if it had magic bounce (and I forgot it had ally switch so it would be disgusting).

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 3 роки тому +36

    “You know you’re popular when you get your own exclusive form”
    Cherrim: You keep telling yourself that

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 4 роки тому +169

    Greninja may have a few too many tools but it's legit one of my favorite Pokemon of all time, even its design is fantastic.

    • @chialeendrums
      @chialeendrums 4 роки тому +25

      Robert MacIntosh ikr! The design is amazing. Greninja is my favorite Pokemon of all time!

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 роки тому +13

      @@alwincahyadi831 fun fact:the bubbles on its arms are actually from the bubble scarf that its pre evolves had
      Also you gotta admit,the tounge scarf is disturbing,but creative

    • @namitapandey7136
      @namitapandey7136 3 роки тому +3

      Greninja look weird for me to that tounge look weird

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 3 роки тому +1

      @@namitapandey7136 But it's a god

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 3 роки тому

      @@alwincahyadi831 Greninja is a god

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd 4 роки тому +331

    Charizard: I'm the most popular fully evolved starter of all time.
    Greninja: Hold my pokeblocks.

  • @TheTrueMega
    @TheTrueMega 4 роки тому +110

    Who knew that in gen 7 The dark type pokemon was used to removed fairy types.

    • @snarls3760
      @snarls3760 3 роки тому +16

      Well if the dark type pulls a transform then thats not a dark type thats an unreleased imposter ditto

    • @iamzahin5910
      @iamzahin5910 3 роки тому +2

      @@snarls3760 When the dark type is sus.

    • @Ghoulofidiocy2917
      @Ghoulofidiocy2917 3 роки тому +1

      @@iamzahin5910 SUSUS AMOGUS

  • @frozenvoltz6739
    @frozenvoltz6739 4 роки тому +4142

    If Greninja got 30 minutes on just 2 generations being dominating in OU and being meh in VGC
    Imagine how long the Landorus video would be

    • @phantomz87
      @phantomz87 4 роки тому +612

      2 minutes dedicated to regular Lando. 40 dedicated to Lando-T

    • @justaadhdgamerwesley6244
      @justaadhdgamerwesley6244 4 роки тому +189

      Bring on blunder :)

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 роки тому +152

      @@justaadhdgamerwesley6244 Agency Agency

    • @thom9910
      @thom9910 4 роки тому +50

      Please, don't give the Patreons ideas.

    • @kingoflions827
      @kingoflions827 4 роки тому +195

      @@thom9910 Lando is banned from being voted on as its WAY TOO LONG for a 1 week episode so its prolly gonna be a special if we get it at all

  • @thesolarhunter
    @thesolarhunter 4 роки тому +376

    Protean Greninja is basically Preyas from Bakugan.
    "CHANGE ATTRIBUTE"
    Edit: Thanks for the likes everyone, I just have one question for all you Bakugan fans...
    "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO!? THE ODDS ARE STACKED AGAINST YOU!...."

    • @xhale671
      @xhale671 4 роки тому +33

      It's sad not everybody will get this

    • @machina5
      @machina5 4 роки тому +9

      @IllumiNation Bakugan is still being sold in stores.

    • @XO_Hikari
      @XO_Hikari 4 роки тому +4

      Fax

    • @joegreen3802
      @joegreen3802 4 роки тому +4

      @@xhale671 I get it XD

    • @mahn3580
      @mahn3580 4 роки тому +5

      @@machina5 i have a bakugan ds game and I used to love it

  • @iainplank7261
    @iainplank7261 4 роки тому +82

    Who would’ve thought we’d get gen 6 so quickly

  • @johnymousAnonymous
    @johnymousAnonymous 4 роки тому +61

    As an Australian I can confirm this, we love greninja.

  • @seanoodles7008
    @seanoodles7008 4 роки тому +90

    Me: Ah it’s only been around in competitive for 2 gens so this video should be pretty sho....
    Video: 28 minutes!

  • @substitutedoll5224
    @substitutedoll5224 4 роки тому +109

    I love how FSG made an exception for greninja only because it's greninja

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 роки тому +2

      Cuz Green ninja

    • @aknight7642
      @aknight7642 3 роки тому

      Wat da sub doin?

    • @lazydelibird
      @lazydelibird 2 роки тому

      @@aknight7642 Either setting up or preparing a focus punch.

  • @armandorodriguez324
    @armandorodriguez324 4 роки тому +41

    Hahaha the Pledge Moves. Back in SM I had an absolutely Evil team where I would lead with Greninja and Charizard. I would Water + Fire Pledge for the Serene Grace and then spam Rock Slide on both of them for two 60% Chances to flinch.

  • @tomyhervas2422
    @tomyhervas2422 4 роки тому +105

    *Battle Bond activates*
    Greninja: *GOtTA swEEP sWEeP SWeEp!!!*

    • @heplays2004
      @heplays2004 3 роки тому +3

      Baldi's Basics

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 3 роки тому +3

      toxapex and ferrothorn: N O

    • @insertnamehere658
      @insertnamehere658 3 роки тому +1

      @@ralphmarges2965 it can run hp fire for ferrothorn tho but I doubt extrasenssory would kill toxapex

    • @PyroPlays0
      @PyroPlays0 3 роки тому

      @@insertnamehere658 specs boosted battle bond boosted will kill as much as i know if they not runnin SpD evs

    • @gamesnig
      @gamesnig 3 роки тому

      Any defensive pokemon in an average team: i'l stop you right there

  • @kalamander8563
    @kalamander8563 4 роки тому +85

    FSG: “How GOOD was Greninja ACTUALLY?”
    Me: Yes

  • @grub833
    @grub833 4 роки тому +49

    FSG: how good was greninja actually
    Me: Screams in protean

  • @sebarsht12
    @sebarsht12 4 роки тому +218

    Nobody:
    Sword and Shield: Hey guys, remember how GOOD Protean was, let's see that with a Fire-type. I'm sure everything will be fine.

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 роки тому +11

      Oh boy here comes darmanitan

    • @DaGamingCore
      @DaGamingCore 4 роки тому +67

      Naw, he means Cinderace. Although you can't get it legit yet, Cinderace's hidden ability is basically protean.

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 роки тому +8

      I don't think Cinderace is gonna be as O.P as Greninja

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 роки тому +45

      Nah. Greninja is WAY stronger than Cinderace. Cinderace has average Coverage other than Gunk Shot to slay Clefable. Iron Head is meh. Sucker Punch is meh. And, Zen Missbutt is eh. For Greninja, it has great Mixed Attacking stats, which massively sets apart from Cinderace.
      Plus, Court Change is a mandatory move slot for Hazard Control. As well as Pyro Ball and U-Turn.

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 роки тому +27

      @@frozenvoltz6739 it has bigger usage in ubers than Greninja because of court change lol, and deals massive damage to zacian which is the best ubers mon atm

  • @b2j135
    @b2j135 4 роки тому +99

    20:10 unless it was Female. Then you knew FOR SURE it was Protean...or Torrent

    • @kyle-cl1by
      @kyle-cl1by 4 роки тому +1

      b2j135 wait how

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 4 роки тому +22

      @@kyle-cl1by can't have Female Battle Bond Greninja

    • @byronlyons3548
      @byronlyons3548 4 роки тому +28

      Don't forget shiny, as you can't have that on BB Greninja either.

    • @akr0b4t
      @akr0b4t 4 роки тому +11

      Battle bonds gren has to be male and non-shiny

    • @n484251
      @n484251 3 роки тому

      ... Unless that's Protean male regular greninja, then you fucked.

  • @hoodclassicsofcalifornia
    @hoodclassicsofcalifornia 4 роки тому +18

    5:33
    "Face me then god, you've rambled on long enough."

  • @MrJtizzle136
    @MrJtizzle136 4 роки тому +26

    "It had to rely on Guile (sonic boom)".....god damn you 🤣

  • @kmwright19
    @kmwright19 4 роки тому +42

    I was on Team Froakie before it was cool. When I saw Greninja for the first time admittedly I was like "WTF?!" because of that tongue scarf. I couldn't decide if it was genius or insane. It ended up as my favorite Pokémon of all time. I love its design, its ability (especially since it fits with the ninja "master-of-disguise" motif), and its shiny (again fits in with its ninja theme and is great looking to boot). It got me to watch the anime again, which IMO is the best season. I was also estactic that it got in Smash 4 (didn't see coming) and is now a top tier threat in Smash Ultimate without all that BS nerfs (I wish Sakurai would leave that Pokemon alone). I haven't felt this excited over a Pokémon since I was a kid with Charizard, only except Greninja was as competitive as the anime depict it to be.
    I wasn't looking forward to Sun/Moon but I admit I was suckered in because of that Ash-Greninja demo (best demo ever). I really like Battle Bond Greninja due to how convenient it was to get and that it felt like a balanced "mega". You had to legit earned its overpowered form.
    While I'm not too happy that it's not in Sw/Sh, at least there's still Smash and it won Pokémon of the year. I hope Greninja continues to be one of the best starters. If it gets "nerfed", I hope it's still competitive like Aegislash and not end up like Talonflame. It annoys me that Gamefreak is using Cinderace to be the next Greninja with Libero instead of giving it is own originality. That just felt like they were not even being subtle about who they want to be the IT Pokémon without waiting for the fans to decide for themselves.
    Sorry for the essay. I'm just glad that you covered him despite being too soon for Gen 6 and I hope a Smash analysis video is coming up. For next Pokémon, I like to see Ferrothorn or a Swampert remake (Gen 7).

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 роки тому +2

      I feel like the tounge scarf was increadibly creative..but a bit wierd

  • @ok443
    @ok443 Рік тому +23

    Now here we are in Scarlet and Violet where both Protean and Battle Bond have been gutted. :(

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb Рік тому +8

      Protean was gutted, Battle Bond was slightly nerfed but still great

    • @AirGlobalTicketHouse
      @AirGlobalTicketHouse 4 місяці тому

      ​@@spiciestbirb But now the boost is temporary🥲

  • @notasquiremario3299
    @notasquiremario3299 4 роки тому +203

    mewtwo 7 generations 20 minutes
    greninja 2 generations 27 minutes

    • @Igor-gw4io
      @Igor-gw4io 4 роки тому +15

      They didn't went into too much detail back then like now they are doing, also Mewtwo had 25 mins

    • @pedromonteiro2248
      @pedromonteiro2248 4 роки тому +20

      Unfair comparison! In the video before he Didn’t go in so many details...
      Actually, videos like Charizard and Mewtwo needs a remake!

    • @notasquiremario3299
      @notasquiremario3299 4 роки тому

      @@pedromonteiro2248 yeah you right.

    • @James-ym9sv
      @James-ym9sv 3 роки тому +1

      Greninja had only 2 generations and it had 27 minutes. Imagine a Landorus video.

    • @sakib6638
      @sakib6638 3 роки тому

      @@James-ym9sv 1 hour for gen 5 OU only

  • @liyrex
    @liyrex 4 роки тому +45

    Last time I was this early, greninja haddnt been nerfed in smash yet.

  • @BoyFromBelgium99
    @BoyFromBelgium99 3 роки тому +36

    Greninja has everything: Great speed, great sp. attack, good coverage moves, access to Spikes, Mat Block, Protean ability and Battle Bond. It was a threat in the competitive scene and both the anime and Super Smash Bros. gave it even more love. It's my favorite pokémon and I trolled so many times with it alongside some Z-moves, Battle Bond and Dark Pulse with flinching xd

  • @LesbianWitchAcademia
    @LesbianWitchAcademia 4 роки тому +43

    *listening to the first 15 minutes of the video:* Yeah this is nice and all. Greninja was a really interesting pokemon. Then Ash-Gren happened.

  • @TIMxisxHERE
    @TIMxisxHERE 4 роки тому +59

    Let's get grassy;
    How good was FERRORTHORN Actually?!

  • @MoodRealm_Native
    @MoodRealm_Native 3 роки тому +9

    "Truly one of a kind"
    Cinderace in gen 8: *Not anymore False Swipe Gaming, I am here now*

  • @tatsukinomiya
    @tatsukinomiya 4 роки тому +46

    Remember when folks believed that Froakie was going to be ass and pooped all over its hopes and dreams and called it ugly, because they were more aroused by Fennekin and Chespin? The "ugly" one had the most success

    • @treygreypaws3689
      @treygreypaws3689 4 роки тому +8

      Lmfao I remember, I picked Froakie cause I didn't want a fire fighting fox or grass type (didn't want grass cause I just used servperior also used emboar too in black)

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 роки тому +16

      I always thought Froakie was the best looking gen 6 starter

    • @tatsukinomiya
      @tatsukinomiya 4 роки тому +1

      @Ghoul Gaming I'm just glad I'm not the only one to call him Grenigga, because that's exactly what he is lmao

    • @lolicunny2
      @lolicunny2 4 роки тому +6

      Pretty sure Chespin was the most disliked Starter though.

    • @tatsukinomiya
      @tatsukinomiya 4 роки тому +2

      @@lolicunny2 Not initially

  • @zorohibiki
    @zorohibiki 4 роки тому +96

    *cinderace with libero appears*
    greninja with protean: finally! a worthy opponent! our battle will be legendary!

    • @NoxLebeau
      @NoxLebeau 4 роки тому +8

      zorohibiki sad part is gren still out speeds

    • @Meepoli
      @Meepoli 4 роки тому +20

      Nox Reaper *laughs in dark STAB sucker punch*

    • @wizard_guru8035
      @wizard_guru8035 4 роки тому +6

      *laughs in snipe shot for cinderace*

    • @Meepoli
      @Meepoli 4 роки тому +19

      *Scarf Dracovish enters the chat* “something smells fishy”

    • @wizard_guru8035
      @wizard_guru8035 4 роки тому +9

      @@Meepoli *oh no*

  • @joshuawilliams4741
    @joshuawilliams4741 4 роки тому +68

    /Gen 1 Starters/
    Venusaur: "I may not be as cool as the other one's, but I love you!"
    Charizard: "I.... am a motherfucking.... Dragon...."
    Pokedex: "....."
    Charizard: "Just give it a minute."
    Blastoise: "Hehehe! Water cannons go FWOOOSH!"
    /Gen 2 Starters/
    Meganium: "I... I... forget it...."
    Typhlosion: "Hehehe! Volcano back go FWOOOSH!"
    Feraligatr: "I.... am a motherfucking.... Dragon...."
    Pokedex: "...."
    Feraligatr: "Just give it a minute."
    /Gen 3 Starters/
    Sceptile: "I.... AM A MOTHERFUCKING.... DRAGON...."
    Pokedex: "The fuck's wrong with ya'll?"
    Sceptile: "JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE!"
    Blaziken: "I'm a fighting type?! This is way better than being a Dragon!"
    Swampert: *E L E C T R I C*
    *I M M U N I T Y*
    /Gen 4 Starters/
    Torterra: "I'm a Continent... with a ground typing? Where does the Earthquake start.... and where does it end?"
    Infernape: "Twice in a row! And better moves?! This typing is AWESOME!"
    Empoleon: *"R O Y A L T Y"*
    /Gen 5 Starters/
    Serperior: *"R O Y A L T Y"*
    Emboar: "Okay, it's old now..."
    Samurott: "I'm a Samurai.... with seashell armor? Where does the Razor Shell end... and the armor begin?"
    /Gen 6 Starters/
    Chestnaught: "YES! NOW I GET TO HAVE THE COOL FIGHTING TYPE!"
    Delphox: *whips out magic fire stick*
    Delphox: "How compelling. Now face the wall."
    Chestnaught: "Wait, why?!"
    Delphox: "Because you're about to get your ass beaten twice."
    Chestnaught: "B-but I can still hard Counter Greninja with this typing.... right?"
    Greninja: "AERIAL ACE!!!"
    Chestnaught: "NOOOOOO!!!"
    Mega-Venusaur: "I'm fat? Noice."
    Mega-Charizard X: "I TOLD YA'LL IT WAS HAPPENING!"
    Mega-Charizard Y: "Have fun with those Ground types, buddy."
    Mega-Blastoise: *B I G F W O O O S H*
    Mega-Sceptile: "I TOLD YA'LL IT WAS HAPPENING!"
    Feraligtr: "Wait.... hol' up! You guys skipped me!"
    Mega-Blaziken: "I got a need.... for SPEED!"
    Mega-Swampert: "BRING THE RAIN, AND I'LL BRING THE PAIN!"
    /Gen 7 Starters/
    Decidueye: *is the night*
    Incineroar: "Fun fact: for the past three generations, all of the fire secondary typings have countered the previous one.... also *R W A A A A A A A A A A R*
    Announcer: "INTRODUCING, THE BEST WATER TYPE STARTER POKEMON OF ALL TIME!"
    Primarina: "Oh my goodness! It's happening!"
    Announcer: " GIVE IT UP FOR ASH-GRENINJAAAAAAAAA!!!"
    Primarina: ._.
    Ash-Greninja: "GRENINJA!!!"

    • @halfway7690
      @halfway7690 4 роки тому +1

      Joshua Williams here at 12:25 Am before you get millions of likes. 5/10/2020

    • @Big85746
      @Big85746 4 роки тому +5

      Cringe

    • @ganjafi59
      @ganjafi59 4 роки тому

      Joshua Williams gold

    • @lyingninja5605
      @lyingninja5605 4 роки тому +5

      Bro wtf are you blabbering

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 4 роки тому +3

      /Gen 8 Starters/
      Inteleon: I used to cry, now I’m a spy! And for my Gigantimax, I wield a gun.
      Rillaboom: I’m the drummer of the group, you know me well...
      Cinderace: I got a neat move Court Change, a powerful fire move, and I’m due for the next Protean! Ready or not, HERE I COME!!!!!
      Greninja: Amateurs.
      All three starters: You literally aren’t allowed this...
      Greninja: AMATEURS.

  • @N12015
    @N12015 4 роки тому +87

    You forgot one place: Smash bros. He is, much like sheik, in the ninja archetype, a light, tall character with lackluster damage but amazing, versatile combos until high percentages. In smash 4 he was... decent, a higher mid tier who popularized the "better nerf greninja" because he was losing constantly his gimmicks, forced to rely on footstools.
    In Ultimate he is a High tier because of a lot of new kill confirms into up smash (He really loves the landing lag reduction), good enough to win top players, specially by players like Glutonny or Lea, but not so popular because Joker outshines almost everyone; still, you know a character is good when he can achieve top 8 in a big tournament like glitch 8.

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 4 роки тому +5

      Can’t forget his falling speed allows for up-air drag downs as well

    • @awesometown1000
      @awesometown1000 4 роки тому +7

      Nothing is funnier than using your enemies as a trampoline.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 роки тому

      @@mr.krustykrust That's also a Joker and Sheik gimmick who is decent and can be used alongside lick, but he also gained a safer kill confirm in down tilt and N-air.
      The problem with Greninja in Smash 4 was its bad air game outside of up-air and footstools, because he couldn't autocancel any air move in a short hop (He still can't, but landing lag is lower in ultimate), as well as a terrible grab game and being the Smash's equivalent of Irelia; if something taught me Little Mac, is that air game, recovery and grabs are important to not being an awful bottom tier (At least the ninja has the second one).
      Ultimate greninja still lacks a good grab game, but so do Joker, and at least he (Ash's greninja is male) has now a good synergy between ground and air moves, and more options in general which is important (Ask Ike, Piranha plant or Little Mac if you don't believe me).

    • @bunabobby
      @bunabobby 4 роки тому +2

      also greninja OOS options are ass

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 роки тому +3

      @@bunabobby No character is perfect. Greninja does NOT have an amazing frame data, he has incredibly low endlag and startup on GROUNDED moves, which allow him to have sick combos. The only usable OoS is the B-air. You know someone has terrible defensive game when his most reliable OoS is jab.

  • @deathbringr0005
    @deathbringr0005 4 роки тому +34

    Greninja looks and feels like he came out of power rangers and I love it.

    • @andersoncampbell5083
      @andersoncampbell5083 4 роки тому +3

      Power rangers ninja storm specifically

    • @treek10k
      @treek10k 3 роки тому +2

      He looks like he came out of a medieval fantasy game to me.

  • @oblati
    @oblati 4 роки тому +14

    14:33 is the only time I've ever heard Greninja described as underrated

  • @ZenoCrasher
    @ZenoCrasher 4 роки тому +7

    Of all the gen 6 pokemon that could've been covered, I'm glad that it was Greninja who was chosen to be the first gen 6 pokemon. Greninja was tailor made to be one of the best pokemon of all time, in both competitive pokemon and the hearts of fans. I still want you to cover Krookodile though

  • @LucyRoseLuna
    @LucyRoseLuna 4 роки тому +26

    I´m already hyped for "how good was cinderace actually?" I know, I have to wait quite some time for that, but I´m definetely looking forward

  • @phoenixa4212
    @phoenixa4212 4 роки тому +22

    I can only imagine how long Rotom and its appliances and Landorus T is going to be...
    Now that i think about it what is cinderace going to be like..
    Imagine a vgc where cinderace with libero and greninja with protean staring down at the opponent...

  • @krosshair450
    @krosshair450 4 роки тому +34

    I love Greninja, by far my favorite starter Pokémon

    • @chialeendrums
      @chialeendrums 4 роки тому +1

      Krosshair same. He’s my favorite Pokemon of all time

    • @somethingrandom4518
      @somethingrandom4518 2 роки тому

      Same, Also my first pokemon *I started pokemon in X and Y don't ask.

    • @tristantemple834
      @tristantemple834 2 роки тому +1

      @@chialeendrums Same. It’s not even close for me It’s my favorite Pokémon PERIOD.

  • @ChampionProductionsYT
    @ChampionProductionsYT 4 роки тому +3

    Man I have been waiting for this for so long 😁

  • @leojun2
    @leojun2 4 роки тому +2

    Even though I don't play Pokemon competitively, I love watching your videos! They are so detailed and well explaned!

  • @hecatia666
    @hecatia666 4 роки тому +14

    I remember Joaquin's Greninja, it kicked my ass so bad I didn't got to do anything
    But that was so good, so good I felt admiration!

  • @calebdonaldson7044
    @calebdonaldson7044 4 роки тому +53

    UA-cam rn: lets take the comment section and push it somewhere else

    • @thebraveguy9808
      @thebraveguy9808 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah. Am I the only one who kind of hates that change?

    • @Jam_Fam
      @Jam_Fam 4 роки тому +1

      The Brave Guy no you are definitely not

    • @isaacbarton1227
      @isaacbarton1227 4 роки тому +2

      If it ain't broke; don't fix it!

    • @kryo4491
      @kryo4491 4 роки тому

      The comments works fine for me, I'm not sure what changed

  • @starduststriker8792
    @starduststriker8792 3 роки тому +7

    Greninja: * is in OU for the entirety of its existence due to its type-changing ability *
    Cinderace: You know, I'm something of a Greninja myself

    • @Emobullymaguire
      @Emobullymaguire 3 роки тому

      Cinderace: I had to beat Gamefreak with a stick to this ability.

  • @callmeosho7792
    @callmeosho7792 4 роки тому +18

    How good was greninja?
    Me: It's greninja you need an explanation?

  • @tyson123123123
    @tyson123123123 4 роки тому +32

    Probably the best starter pokemon of all time, alongside with Blaziken

    • @aerohydreigon1101
      @aerohydreigon1101 4 роки тому +6

      Unpopular Opinion
      Greninja sucks, is overrated and GameFreak is biased to it

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 роки тому +18

      @@aerohydreigon1101 It don't suck if it's good Lmao

    • @Karaaa99
      @Karaaa99 4 роки тому +12

      AeroHydreigon overrated in terms of what? He’s a good Pokémon, badass in the anime, a good competitive Pokémon, and he’s great in terms of design. You can’t call something overrated without being specific

    • @Karaaa99
      @Karaaa99 4 роки тому +10

      AeroHydreigon he’s also been cut from gen 8, so that proves your point wrong regardless

    • @rajt9996
      @rajt9996 4 роки тому +2

      @@Karaaa99
      1. Better abilities and stats than the other starters
      3. Garbage anime form
      4. It's in smash
      5. More popular than charizard
      6. Game freak is too biased
      7. Better shiny than other starters

  • @Firescizor
    @Firescizor 4 роки тому +21

    Seeing the absolute madlad-ism of Protean makes me wonder how even more amazing Cinderace can get when he finally receives Libero as an ability. He's coverage pales in comparison to Greninja's for the most part, but even some sets with gimmicky moves like Electro Ball could be enabled by that ability I think

  • @jamesaddy8438
    @jamesaddy8438 4 роки тому +12

    I remember when this series was in its early days and I was so sad thinking about how long it would take to get to greninja but here it is!

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 4 роки тому

      I don't like that we already have a Gen 6 mon, when we even still have some Gen 1 mons left.

    • @CrazedKasaJizo
      @CrazedKasaJizo 2 роки тому +1

      @@tobiasgund8048 Why? FSG don’t have to go in order, and it’s not interesting to keep getting the same start and descent

  • @de4thb0rn57
    @de4thb0rn57 4 роки тому +33

    "How good was Greninja actually", you're shorter than I expected

  • @acedeepy4479
    @acedeepy4479 4 роки тому +58

    Greninja : Why did i got banned :(
    Reason : Throwing Trash cans to Fairy Types

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 роки тому +2

      Why did it throw itself at fairies

    • @yaboywest5856
      @yaboywest5856 3 роки тому +4

      @@CJay101 says the mimikyu pfp okay

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 роки тому

      @@yaboywest5856 greninja is weak to fairy types lmao

    • @hellothere4892
      @hellothere4892 3 роки тому +1

      @@CJay101 Gunk shot go brrrrr

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 роки тому

      @@hellothere4892 disguise exists 💀

  • @PepperonibeatsZombie
    @PepperonibeatsZombie 4 роки тому +7

    Imagine how lucky Greninja got. It was given a cool design and right off the bat it was put in Smash 4 just off the design alone. But if didn’t fare in battle well, it wouldn’t have gotten as popular. Luckily, it was born a Pokemon with a great design, a great statspread, and a great hidden ability. Then to put the cherry on top, it absolutely shined in the XYZ anime, being both written and animated spectacularly. No wonder it won Pokemon of the year.

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes 4 роки тому +4

      Greninja's statspread is that it has good speed and everything else is just mediocre so how is that a great statspread? Also in terms of writing Greninja in the anime has pretty much no personality, is a complete gary stu when it comes to battles and just happens to have a very very rare special ability what turns it into a new form what by a complete coincidence just happens to look like what his current trainer is wearing so not really written well by any means either.

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 3 роки тому +2

      @@V-Jes with 520 BST it has exactly what he needed look at serperior emboar decidueye

    • @jibby6969
      @jibby6969 Рік тому +1

      @@V-Jes “Gary stu” just a straight up lie on your part. And 102 is by no means a bad stat

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes Рік тому +1

      @him Ash in XY seasons literally walks to a Gym with a Pokémon with a type disadvantage and just 1 shots 1 of the Gym leaders Pokémon with a not very effective move while his Pokémon take little to no damage at all when they get hit by super effective moves, also 103 is extremely mediocre for an offensive stat what is why every Greninja uses Choice Specs or Life orb these days...

    • @jibby6969
      @jibby6969 Рік тому

      @@V-Jes you when a Pokémon uses items to be more effective in a meta designed around efficient damage 😱 also are we forgetting that the anime Pokémon almost never strays to the games? Remember the time pikachu one shotted a golem with thunderbolt? Yeah I don’t think Greninja should be treated differently in an anime that is far different from the games since it’s a show not a game

  • @DunceTree93
    @DunceTree93 2 роки тому +4

    I'd just like to give my personal experience with Greninja despite no one asking. So I missed ALOT of gens of Pokémon cause my family was literally dirt poor. Meaning the only gen I got to play was gen 1. I got to watch some friends play gen 2 but after that, Pokémon was not around for me. Fast forward 20 years and Sun &Moon came out. My fiancé bought it night of release for my birthday. I had to learn alot really fast, but I loved it. Then someone showed me Greninja. And to say that I fell in love with it is an understatement. I found all the anime I missed as a kid and re watched all of it BECAUSE of Greninja lmfao. I loved its design, the typing, the overall feel and playstyle. Greninja became not only my favorite starter, but one of my favorite Pokémon of all time. I sucked at competitive because I was missing like 15 years of experience, but Greninja made fall head first into competitive for the first time ever, and helped me learn a lot about the basics and strats and just how brutal competitive could actually be for Pokémon. I'm still not great by any means, but I can hold my own now.
    I miss him, wish he was in gen 8 but it is what it is. I get that he is just as hyped as Charizard popularity wise, but in my opinion, he's better. I'm glad that newer generations has a Pokémon that is what Charizard was for my generation.

  • @chialeendrums
    @chialeendrums 4 роки тому +1

    Yay finally you made a video about my favorite Pokemon, Greninja! He’s awesome!

  • @emojifr...
    @emojifr... 4 роки тому +40

    I wanna know how good Medicham was, I wonder how its mega got to OU.

    • @nic9080
      @nic9080 4 роки тому +13

      Pure Power.

    • @tatsuya5888
      @tatsuya5888 4 роки тому +5

      100 base attack being doubled by pure power and then add 120 bp High Jump Kick and Fake Out/Bullet Punch for priority and here you go

    • @emojifr...
      @emojifr... 4 роки тому +1

      @@nic9080 but still i want to know how it did in the other generations

    • @emojifr...
      @emojifr... 4 роки тому

      @@tatsuya5888 but what about the other gens

    • @twicepilled
      @twicepilled 4 роки тому

      @@emojifr... it was still pretty good, it had pure power even before it got the mega

  • @OptimusMinor1
    @OptimusMinor1 4 роки тому +21

    How good was Exploud actually? BOOMBURST!!!!

  • @alessandroarroyo1731
    @alessandroarroyo1731 Рік тому +3

    Tabu Bulu: **set Grassy Terrain**
    Greninja: Congratulation. YOU PLAYED YOURSELF.

  • @renatatostada3318
    @renatatostada3318 4 роки тому +5

    I loved using Greninja in gen 6, it was always such a good time. I think any buffs to it for doubles would have negative effects on it for singles. If it gets a defensive buff in doubles, then all the issues it causes in singles are exacerbated. I think greninja allows for such creativity from trainers that people are always gonna try to find a way with it as it is

  • @Yhormungandr
    @Yhormungandr 4 роки тому +42

    I honestly expected a fifty minute video. Not that I'm dissapointed.

    • @HRCFre4k
      @HRCFre4k 4 роки тому +19

      I wonder how long Heatran will be

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 роки тому +2

      Oh man you are in for a treat

    • @mainakbiswas1758
      @mainakbiswas1758 4 роки тому +8

      it's been only 2 gens for Greninja lol, And it's not that great in doubles , But yeat Mat block definitely a thing when Garchomp needs a SD lol

    • @Yhormungandr
      @Yhormungandr 4 роки тому +3

      @@mainakbiswas1758 Incineroar has been in 1 gen and the current one, but it won't stop him from being in a half-hour video.

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 4 роки тому

      HRCFr34k wanna bet for Landorus-T?

  • @RazorusR3X777
    @RazorusR3X777 2 роки тому +12

    How nerfed was Protean actually

  • @kyleeversfield8276
    @kyleeversfield8276 4 роки тому +4

    ffs, the deliver on that guile sonic boom joke was just perfect. So nonchalant in execution that I almost missed it completely.

  • @generalshepherd2209
    @generalshepherd2209 4 роки тому +5

    Our first Gen 6 Pokémon! Man hard to think we’re here. I remember the first Dragonite video.

  • @xAnttern
    @xAnttern 2 роки тому +18

    rip og battle bond, it’s not the same

    • @Horret69
      @Horret69 2 роки тому +3

      Ash Greninja will be missed

    • @DragonKingRyu993
      @DragonKingRyu993 Рік тому

      He is coming back in the next 7 star raid, let’s all of us hope it’s ash-greninja

    • @EpiclyEpicGamer
      @EpiclyEpicGamer Рік тому +5

      @@DragonKingRyu993 ash greninja isn't in the game, it's ability was changed to be a 1 time +1 to attacks, sp atk, and speed,

    • @foodmr2022
      @foodmr2022 Рік тому

      it's way to powerful in the new generations

  • @SaltyTreecko
    @SaltyTreecko 4 роки тому +100

    Alternate title: How GOOD was Battle Bond ACTUALLY?

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 4 роки тому +1

      SaltyTreecko meh only he useless without it

    • @MrEzman99
      @MrEzman99 4 роки тому +27

      Battle Bond didn't exist in Gen 6, it was Protean that made Greninja a star.

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 4 роки тому +7

      Lol Protean got him banned to Ubers

    • @moltz4866
      @moltz4866 4 роки тому

      Also Protean

    • @MontageHustle
      @MontageHustle 4 роки тому +1

      Well protean was incredible as well

  • @justinarney3050
    @justinarney3050 4 роки тому +6

    one of the rare times when a pokemon gets a new form but both are equally viable in the formats that allow them.

  • @kefkapalazzo1
    @kefkapalazzo1 4 роки тому +31

    Gren has an amazing design. Up there with scizor and gengar for me

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 4 роки тому +5

      I can't even enjoy that because pf its sky rocketing favouritism.

    • @whydoiexist2180
      @whydoiexist2180 2 роки тому

      @@tobiasgund8048 tbf its significantly more subtle then there love for charizard

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 роки тому

      @@whydoiexist2180 Lol Charizard is the most overrated

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 роки тому

      @@tobiasgund8048 if you actually wanna see favouritism then take a look at Charizard before hating on Greninja

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 роки тому

      @@whydoiexist2180 Idk who ur against Greninja or Charizard?

  • @Mcflyeon
    @Mcflyeon 4 роки тому +6

    Finally, a Gen 6 Pokemon and starting with Greninja! :D

  • @kmversion1
    @kmversion1 4 роки тому +24

    Greninja: I'm the first starter not from Hoenn to be banned
    Cinderace: Hello there

    • @Venom-dr9pc
      @Venom-dr9pc 4 роки тому +5

      That’s not wrong though Greninja is the first starter not from Hoenn to be banned

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 4 роки тому

      Cinderace was banned only because there is not national dex anymore
      + I thought only libero is banned the blaze one is still usable in OU

  • @craniifer
    @craniifer 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly, I need to watch more of the Gen 6 competitions. The team comps looked crazy.

  • @NobodyDungeons
    @NobodyDungeons 4 роки тому +6

    I typically ran Ash greninja with magnet pull magnazone, and excadrill to answer 90% of ash greninja's counters such as ferrothorn, toxipex, and others

  • @Cyrentic
    @Cyrentic 4 роки тому +3

    25:51 I can actually imagine greninja relaxing by the beach under a parasol sipping on some Piña colada.

  • @danteghazizadeh1656
    @danteghazizadeh1656 Місяць тому

    GameFreak in SV when greninja’s popularity dies down: “I don’t want to play with you anymore”

  • @lplenny
    @lplenny Рік тому +6

    UA-cam keeps reminding me me how Gamefreak killed Greninja. They need to give him a slight buf after this deadly nerf now