Let's talk about Booty Ball
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
- In recent years, multiple teams have been using an offensive strategy referred to by Brad Underwood as "Booty Ball". This video focuses on Illinois, Penn State, and Villanova's use of the strategy. It looks at the X's and O's and statistics behind posting up guards.
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kyle lowry analysis?
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Cam Thomas got a gyatt to i noticed😳
@@yingsnnn808 underrated
pronounced posterior himself
Lmao thick hamster
Underwood complaining about bootyball after getting beat by it, and then basing his entire offense around it the next year is hilarious
If you can't beat them, join them
I am more respect the people letting their ego step aside, and perform their duty.
@@YuShawStang you are more respect?
the best was him and Coleman Hawkins bitching about how "you can't touch him" when Pickett shot about 2 free throws per game in Big Ten play
@@YuShawStangtheir booty duty
Very oldschool, basically a Barkley Post backdown
Nah dawg, that's Big Barkley Booty Ball now
It works
Oscar Robertson
WE ARE BACK WITH THE 90S!
No my friend we are back in the 60s😂😂😂
Post up play in basketball is so few and far between that people are renaming it like it's a new thing. lol The 90's wasn't that long ago.
New names same thing😅
What a terrible name tho. Damn.
it was that long ago tho. its been almost 25 years
You're old and so am I! Let it go, these new kids can't come up with new stuff, at least let them rename things😂
Well, that’s because the nba neutered defense by not letting you put your hands on people
Idk if you remember this, but Coach Nick of BBallbreakdown predicted that guard post-ups would increase back in like, 2017. I'll try to find the video
put link in comments
Meh. You're referencing a lesser channel
Definitely. He used James Harden the example. He had low post up tendency but high efficiency. We also see Brunson playing in the post today
@@HummingbirdCyborgbballbreakdown is a UA-cam cornerstone FOH and he’s right about pretty much everything lol
@JohnCFee , I liked it more to start, but nowadays it feels like his entire video is an ad. He's low tier now.
let's talk about what?
Booty ball you heard him 😂😂💀
Big Booty Ball...You heard him. 🤣🤣💀
Booty ball is crazy work
Lmaooo
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Former PSU player here. Hell of an analysis. One more wrinkle, our former coach Micah Shrewsberry was an assistant and OC for Purdue before coming to us. A program with a history of running the offense through bigs with 3-point shooting guards.
Julian! We are!
You averaged 2 points per game playing for the worst program in the big 10. s t f u AH.
You averaged 2 points per game playing for the worst program in the big 10.
SU AH
@@ANONYMOUSE247what have you done?
@@ANONYMOUSE247and you my friend rode the bench in middle school, highest level of achievement for you in basketball
“Booty ball, if you double him he just sprays” 😂🤦🏾♂️ fuckin rich
No my friend we are back in the 60s😂😂😂
this was my move as a 6’2 center in high school. 😂 side note, this is basically just dead ball nba era offense.
Yeah, I always thought this was referred to as a "Barkley post?"
Right. Many players used to post up. Ewing, Barkley, even Jordan used to. I was really good at it.
@@bluesquidny buddy tried to insert himself with nba all time greats and think no one would notice. nice try buddy
That’s correct. But we’re at a time where many casual fans might not know who Charles Barkley is now. New generation will probably only think about Brunson from this point forward.
@@Llowin2 People might not know about his dominant post game but trust me, casuals absolutely know of Chuck.
He goes viral every other week for saying or doing something goofy. 😂
@@Llowin2 Barkley is one of the main announcers of todays game. If they dont know who Charles Barkley or Shaq is, then they dont watch BB.
Mark Jackson, especially with the Pacers, was outstanding at this Booty Ball approach. Brunson was the best post player in the country that year.
Ain't nothing new about this. This is what we used to call FUNDAMENTALS! I could list the players who have used this but I don't have the time or the patience.
😂 so true I don't understand how this is revolutionary. Doesn't nobody study history?
Hey I got these new jeans, the bottoms look like bells.
No one said it was new, Calling it bootyball is.
@@commonsense3921 Thumbnail literally says "A NEW OFFENSIVE STRATEGY?"
And they say Oscar Robertson couldnt play college ball😂😂😂
No one EVER called or Booty ball. They trying to rainbow everything
Someone watched UA-cam clips of Magic Johnson and "discovered" a new offense.
Mark Jackson too.
John Stockton and Penny Hardaway I feel also played like this. Maybe the numbers dont match. But if you had a premiere point player you played like this with less shot making acceptance
Gary Payton
Not quite fair. The entire movement on offense has been away from this kind of play. Takes some stubbornness and creativity to employ it.
This style of play and “taller point guards” who could post were always apart of commentary in the 90s - early 2000s. Hardaway, Jackson and Kidd, both at 6’4”.
Makes me think of Mark Jackson with the Pacers and Knicks. I remember as a kid noticing that he done this in the half court as soon as he was guarded.
Dude I love these videos. Super fun and highly educational. Everything that I want in an analysis video. really appreciate your mix of clips, stats and graphics. Excellent balance.
It's like watching a history documentary and hearing the narrator talk about a new invention
Players played like this since inception up until probably the analytic era.
The counter is also from the 90's. It's called the Dennis Rodman hip thrust. Watch out now!
When someone is backing you down, you must find different ways to absorb contact. It's painful playing against the post.
oof, you dont want to hip trust someone smaller than you when that gut backs you down. my groin will never be the same
Wym from the 90s...this started in the 60s
The Booty Ball offense meta is wild
Gary Payton was a really good post up guard during his years with the Sonics. He could dish to Detlef or Big Smooth out at the three point line, too.
Wat u get when you a kid playing a adult aka "the back down" =booty ball lol
Kenny Smith is saying Barkley but honestly it was Mark Jackson because he was a guard taking like 12-15 seconds just backing someone down. It was effective it just slowed the game down and they changed it. Barkley was already in the post and just didnt need that long to move somebody.
Hey! Love the video! I actually recruited and worked with Jig pretty heavily at lasalle! A major staple of our staffs player development which was led by a former nova assistant was predicated on jigs back downs. Fran just carried it over because of how effective it is!! If you ever wanna talk about some of the developmental stuff from my perspective I’d love to chat!!
Booty ball is the wildest!!! 😂😂😂
Long time no see. So excited for another video
8:30 more evidence that Jalen been good. He didn’t suddenly break out, he wasn’t given as much opportunity because he got drafted with Luka and then earned stater minutes but was still the secondary option. Once he was given the reigns he did what he’s been doing.
Great video as always! Gotta give it to Underwood for continuing to change and adapt his style (offense and defense) for what's working
That is the Shaq Attack!
I swear on everything if this makes a comeback I’m just telling my grandkids u ain’t no nothing about booty ball 😂
Jordan was deadly with that post move. Of course you gotta have good mid ranger jumper with triple threat moves
I want somebody to count how many times someone said "booty ball" in this video😁
I don’t know if my booty is good enough to ball like that hoopvison 😭
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LOL… this goes directly against the layups and threes offense.. i love it. i think it’s funner to watch a couple guys battling like this.
It’s hilarious because nobody else knows what to do, watch how they all watch the two players basically have a post up 1v1
If that was a center they would double him but u wouldn’t double a guard In the post
So now they just stand and watch 🤣
Jokic loves doing this to draw the double and kick out, in under 5 seconds of course. And if no one bites his post moves and foot work take over for an almost guaranteed bucket
oh geez wow dominant post play is an effective tactic in basketball.. who knew?
I’ve had 5 second back to the basket violations back when I played as a kid.
This sound so wild its funny 😂
If you booty ball to the basket and put back your own rebound you accomplish a Barkley.
An Oscar Robertson
Magic did this All the time in the 80’s. Many examples of bigger guards doing this in the last 30+ years. The main difference is that bigs don’t like to play big anymore so the lane is wide open, and the guards have much more time on the ball before double teams etc. Basically if big guys don’t want to be labeled as a back to the basket post player, then the guards will assume that role, because inside out will always work better than skip passes around the perimeter and jacking up contested threes. In other words, if the big boys want to play perimeter ball, then the guards have evolved into the interior presence. Hard to compare eras, but I’d love to see Hakeem etc play against today’s post players.
amazing video as always, just need more DJ Burns content
Melo was great at catching at the 3, tween dribble, double backdown dribbles into the jumper. I love doing this especially when you know someone is soft or lazy they’ll just let you keep getting closer to the rack lol
dude's game was very simple
Edey is gonna be a problem for centers in the pros. He backs you down, throws the left elbow in your ribs and jump hooks for 2 every time. Almost unstoppable.
Imagine what wilt would do
Basically what the Lebron Cavs ran in his 2nd tenure
Do u think you could do a breakdown of nba basketball playoffs this year? The west is insane and I want to know why
New? This is as old as the dribble. This is what guard play used to look like before the NBA implemented the 5 second back down/back to the basket rule and then legislated out contact. When perimeter defenders were allowed to actually defend and challenge offensive players for space on the floor, being able to function and see the floor out of a back down dribble was mandatory. Go watch Magic, Mark Jackson, Rod Strickland, Chuck...
I play like this a decent bit lol i just call it my "old man game"
That’s the first thing you learn in basketball, it’s not a new thing. Protect the ball with your body.
Don't forget Mark Jackson. He plays like this.
Gary Payton as well. I seem to remember this being taught as a fundamental even for point guards back in the day but it’s been awhile since I played organized ball.
Charles Barkley used to do this in the NBA which is why they have the back to the basket rule now
1:29 "If you double, he sprays it"
Dwight Howard’s favorite style of basketball.
Not sure what took these guys so long to see why this was done so much in the 90s, because it’s effective and probably not enough big guys in college to defend it well
Just the old school back down.
And they say Oscar Robertson are wouldn't even make a college team,😂...Oscar would average 50-60 ppg in modern day college rules
Sorry, but this is asenine. The player literally just posts the defender up. It's been going on since the 60s. Did the coach not know this? He should. Looks like he's been around long enough to know.
booty ball a wild ass term🤣
If you combine booty ball with a head fake every 2 dribbles you can get within 2ft foot of the rim no matter what your weight and defender size is. You can then combine that with a fadeaway layup and be the second best scorer at the park without having to ever run.
This would explain a lot of Boris Diaw's offense.
Barkley did it all the way to the Dream Team to the Hall of Fame.
Oscar Robertson popularized this style for guards
Jalen Brunson does this basically every time down the court 😂
Mark Jackson’s made an entire NBA career doing this. It has always been very popular to do this historically, just lost favor in the 2000s.
Pickett could very well be the nuggets backup point guard next season
Bellarmine also played booty ball with Donald Penn. He was the only one allowed to technically dribble but it had to be him getting into the paint
They also have a shorter shot clock in the NBA. If this Penn State player tried this in an NBA game he would be close to a shot clock violation almost every time.
Old school ball that's what i call it
`Brunson STILL does this in the NBA. He just turns it into a "drive" enough of the time to skirt around the 5 second rule.
works, go back and look at how Mark Jackson did this, especially his time with the Knicks but the OG of boot ball of course is Magic but I would argue Mark Jackson was the best at it
Domask was an unreal player. Does not get enough recognition
Cant believe coach said that with a straight face
Basketball has come a long way.
Booty ball, aka, the very thing every grade school kid learned to do (and learned the need to defend) when playing 1 on 1 with their friends.
It also highlights - right there from the very first time you start playing the game - the one inherent flaw in the game itself:
_Basketball is impossible to call fairly._
Some contact are clearly charges, and some are clearly fouls by the defender, but most are somewhere in the middle, and those either result in no call (so advantage to the offensive player, as booty ball then becomes unstoppable) or a foul on the defender (again, advantage to the offense).
Oscar Robertson could play in todays league you think?
@@JohnnyRodgers3
I never saw him play... did you ask that because he known for being a "booty ball" post up guard?
I never saw him play, but his stats speak for themselves. I never have any doubt that the truly great ones would be great in any era.
My super high gravity shoulder drop into a sikma move RULES my rec league theyre not about to stop me.
I remember Kobe doing this a lot towards the end of his career. Didn’t know it had a name until now 😂
Bro, in the 80's and 90s, if you couldn't post up ,you couldn't feed your family... this ain't new.
Ts started in the 60s bruh😭😭😭
So in the era defined by 3 pointers a guards best way of scoring is backing defenders down into the paint. Who would’ve thought
Its call high post/ post game
Flagrant pause, ayyyyyyoooo
Charles Barkley was ahead of his time
You mean the post 😆
hey guys, I have a question
can bootyball really translate to NBA?
I know brunson made his style of play unstoppable in the league
but the fact that NBA has the 5 sec against the basket rule
players cannot post up for a long time
Booty ball been the way to go I’m 6ft and play local ball for years hit post moves on people 6’5 + nothin new rondo , dwade , Kobe ,MJ watch em you might learn something
They changed rules because the rule changes they made before created these situations. Rules that handicap defense in favor of offense has not made the game a better product, rather shifted from a team sport to one on one, excessive dribbling, slow back downs and bully ball. I get that those with limited knowledge of the game are fascinated by offense and ball hogging, wide open lanes, and entertainment. Booty ball is exactly how gradeschool kids play.
Until one of them be Like " GIMME DAT CAKE " watch how fast this sht ends
Marcus Domask was incredible as Illinois' de facto point guard. His bully ball was pretty unstoppable all year.
YESSSSSS
playing in the post
This is new ? How old is the guy that made this video ?
Checks out
With both NBA and FIBA having implemented anti-Booty ball countermeasures, is it worth teaching it at college level? After all, players are there to learn, and get ready for their future professional career...
Players are there to make money for the school. Future NBA players are decided at the middle to high school level. College coaches don’t care as long as the team wins.
MAGIC, Jamal Mashburn, Chuck..
My dad and I are Illini fans... my dad calls Brad Underwood "Brad underwear." Brad, the weird names are coming right back at ya.
Jalen Brunson plays that way all the time
Mark Jackson was the king of booty ball back in the day
Little guys post up and big guys shoot threes now. What happened to the game that I love
According to some of these comments, the game was played in 80s and 90s 😒
Brand new state of the art offense? No man this how they used to play basketball. Guards backed themselves into the post all the time. Mark Jackson anyone?
This isnt unusual at all. This style was much bigger back in the day.
And the crazy thing is: Marcus wasn't even our best player this year. Far from it tbh. Just speaks to how good Terrence was and how dynamic that duo was. That is a real good team. Too bad we had the best team this century in our bracket...
Until the mid to late 1990’s this was just called post play. It was considered too basic to even bother giving it a nickname.
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Does this even help their draft stock though... considering it doesn't even translate to the NBA.
I don't think Pickett was even considered an NBA prospect when he transferred from Siena to Penn State, and he ended up going #32 in the 2023 NBA draft.