The Team That Doesn't Dribble

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    Scott Davenport -- head coach of Bellarmine basketball -- has arguably the most unique offensive scheme in the country. His program's combination of passing and off-ball motion has produced some of the most efficient offenses over the past decade. In this video, we look at the stats and X's and O's behind the Bellarmine scheme.
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    0:00 Intro
    2:31 Transitioning to D1
    4:42 Counting Dribbles and Passes
    6:11 The X's and O's
    8:51 Strategic Dribbling
    11:45 Hudl Sportscode
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  • @coolblack1
    @coolblack1 2 роки тому +3429

    The beauty of this system is it’s a modern take on the original play style of the game. Watching this footage almost looks like vintage basketball play.

    • @Avogadros_number
      @Avogadros_number 2 роки тому +39

      Looks boring asf

    • @coolblack1
      @coolblack1 2 роки тому +276

      @@Avogadros_number I can admit it’s not show stopping, but it’s effective as hell. It’s the same idea as the early 00’s Spurs, boring to watch but consistent title contenders.

    • @bigman8477
      @bigman8477 2 роки тому +2

      @@coolblack1 bellarmine is literally garbage so idk how u call it effective

    • @piusbutarbutar1782
      @piusbutarbutar1782 2 роки тому +68

      @@Avogadros_number actually not,this system is pretty much the same with how 14 spurs system and current GSW and heat plays but its not perfect
      More passing mean more turnover especially against good defense. This strategy is possible because the defender at this level dont have the length and instinct to distrupt the passing lanes. Imagine playing this type of games against jimmy,kawhi,giannis or the entire raptors team that can distrupt the passing lane without leaving their marked man
      Also this level of communication isnt possible without perfect chemistry of the entire team and the only 2 team to pull of this kind of play to championship is just GSW and spurs

    • @coolblack1
      @coolblack1 2 роки тому +144

      @@bigman8477 It was good enough to move them from a D2 to a D1 team and they finished second in their conference last year.

  • @SethKasso
    @SethKasso 2 роки тому +4649

    This is some of the most beautiful team-centric basketball I've ever seen.

    • @talianun3259
      @talianun3259 2 роки тому +18

      You kum yet

    • @USALibertarian
      @USALibertarian 2 роки тому +98

      @@talianun3259 3 times so far!

    • @123rockstar2010
      @123rockstar2010 2 роки тому +21

      This reminds me of the Classic Celtics and Lakers in the 1970s.

    • @brandonlogan2600
      @brandonlogan2600 2 роки тому +25

      Which is why Ben Simmons isn't thriving in Philly, this style of ball is what's mainly played overseas and players faults are hidden from value Isaiah Thomas would benefit from this too.

    • @ethanallen5274
      @ethanallen5274 2 роки тому +1

      This is dumb

  • @OlmanWillo
    @OlmanWillo 2 роки тому +502

    What I find most interesting about this system is that it fixes the problem of not being able to recruit head to head against the big teams by not trying to compete for the same type of player. By creating a very different system they've increased the quality of their recruitment pool by emphasizing different traits.

    • @IQFSanAntonio
      @IQFSanAntonio Рік тому +37

      This... This is what all the other comments are missing. Most teams are looking for the the absolutely most talented players they can recruit... the biggest, the quickest, the best shooters and rebounders. Obviously the majors are going to attract the best talent, and they can afford play traditional basketball using their extreme (and deep) talent pool. The smaller schools have to find a way to be different if they want to win consistently.
      My first two years of college basketball was with a JUCO with all white guys. As you can imagine, the vast majority were slow. Our superpower was shooting, but how do you ever get a shot off when your defenders are so much quicker? Screen, after screen, after screen. That was how we played. Probably not as intensely or as disciplined as Bellarmine, but we made it work with a bunch of unathletic, slow, shooters. It worked for us, too. We went 25-7 on the season and 13-1 at home. We either pounded them inside with our bigs or punished them with excessive 3-point shooting. But multiple screens are where it all started.

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv Рік тому +5

      that’s a great point Julian. I didn’t think about that.

    • @AlexE5250
      @AlexE5250 Рік тому +6

      Thats the same basic principal behind moneyball. When the Oakland A’s were a small market team trying to compete with big spenders like the New York Yankees, they emphasized different skills (namely, on base percentage) and saw value in players that other teams passed up, because those other teams weren’t looking at the right qualities.

    • @sharpe52312
      @sharpe52312 Рік тому +3

      It’s kind of like football teams that run the Wing T or Flexbone. Pro style offenses only work if you have big and offensive lineman and have a qb that can make throws. Wing T uses angles and misdirection to make a less talented offensive line more competitive.

    • @eloc557
      @eloc557 4 місяці тому

      ​@IQFSanAntonio Thank you for that comment. Love hearing abt your basketball experience lol

  • @Cameron_Caron
    @Cameron_Caron Рік тому +479

    This is beautiful basketball. Just absolutely beautiful team basketball. If there was an NBA team that played like this I would watch them every game. The closest thing I can think of are the 2010-2016 Spurs teams.

    • @blowc1612
      @blowc1612 Рік тому +15

      This won't work in the NBA

    • @aintnoway7217
      @aintnoway7217 Рік тому +56

      @@blowc1612 you build the right team i think it could. a lot of teams play hero ball and as great as some players are it makes the game predictable in some stretches where in this offense you’re in constant conflict instead of knowing who’s going to have the ball/taking the shot

    • @5FT6MAN
      @5FT6MAN Рік тому +28

      haha golden state plays like this

    • @timandmonica
      @timandmonica Рік тому +23

      @bLoWc16 It won't work at D1, either.
      Oh, wait.

    • @blowc1612
      @blowc1612 Рік тому +16

      @@timandmonica you do understand that's still college..the NBA has ELITE college level talent AS BENCH WARMERS 🤣 this doesn't work in the NBA because I higher BIQ players that can anticipate the pass and are quicker to be able to disrupt the passing lane. There's a reason why you don't see this ridiculous amount of passing, since it would be a TO. In the NBA excessive passing LEADS TO TO.

  • @nourechaara3847
    @nourechaara3847 2 роки тому +5644

    I'm more impressed by the fact that these players are willing to put aside individualism for the better of the team, quite rare

    • @a-t5380
      @a-t5380 2 роки тому +382

      Probably have a one on one with coach before they enter the program...they know what the deal is

    • @rodlaver4826
      @rodlaver4826 2 роки тому +137

      @@a-t5380 More importantly, they have one on one with the current players. That allows both the recruit and the players to provide input about how the recruit might fit in.

    • @rjnsg2953
      @rjnsg2953 2 роки тому +200

      yeah but i think it will hurt them if they tryna go to the league tho. this style of play allows no one to shine except the coach.

    • @richardguillory4631
      @richardguillory4631 2 роки тому +46

      @@rjnsg2953 then the player can go play for another team

    • @d36williams
      @d36williams 2 роки тому +166

      @@rjnsg2953 there's 100s of college programs, most college athletes know they aren't going pro

  • @broccolihighkicks708
    @broccolihighkicks708 2 роки тому +2021

    2:08
    “The goal is not to move the ball, but to move the opposition.”
    - Pep Guardiola

    • @user-ou8nc4ug1d
      @user-ou8nc4ug1d 2 роки тому +173

      This playstyle is actually very similar to Guardiola's on football

    • @AntonyTheFidgetSpinnerMerchant
      @AntonyTheFidgetSpinnerMerchant 2 роки тому +216

      Never thought I would see pep mentioned in a college basketball video

    • @statesev
      @statesev 2 роки тому +97

      The fastest player on the team? The ball. So cool.

    • @henryosok8317
      @henryosok8317 2 роки тому +5

      @@AntonyTheFidgetSpinnerMerchant Walai! Never thought so!.

    • @ciamciaramcia99
      @ciamciaramcia99 2 роки тому +99

      My first thought was, this is a basketball version of tiki taka.

  • @SaintFrito
    @SaintFrito 2 роки тому +211

    I remember this video being the catalyst to keeping tabs on how Bellarmine did this year, and now they’re ASUN tournament champs. It’s too bad they can’t go dancing this year due to the lame NCAA rules, but it’s still awesome to see such a unique style of basketball like Bellarmine be so successful

    • @morganewing304
      @morganewing304 2 роки тому +8

      What rules kept them out?

    • @calebderavil7464
      @calebderavil7464 Рік тому +29

      There’s a D2 to D1 transition period of 4 years. Happened when my school made that leap a while ago

    • @morganewing304
      @morganewing304 Рік тому +30

      @@calebderavil7464 that seems backwards. If anything they’re already at a disadvantage

    • @SaintFrito
      @SaintFrito Рік тому +39

      @@morganewing304 it’s really is, considering that for 4 years the players they recruit know they won’t be able to make the NCAA tournament. Bellarmine has petitioned to the NCAA to reduce the probation period from 4 years to 2, which is a step in the right direction. The only reason that rule has been in place is to discourage D2 teams from making the transition to D1 too soon, so I don’t think it’ll be phased out entirely anytime soon

  • @JoeMama-mp9jb
    @JoeMama-mp9jb Рік тому +67

    This is what James Naismith envisioned when he invented the sport. Just beautiful basketball

    • @JK-vc7ie
      @JK-vc7ie 2 місяці тому

      Who told you that?

  • @MindfulAttraction
    @MindfulAttraction 2 роки тому +2812

    this is a larry bird system. This is how he literally he played, how he scored and passed the ball. He didn't dribble the ball too much. He never held the ball for more than 3 seconds and moved without the ball consistently. Unbelievable

    • @vicconstruction9126
      @vicconstruction9126 2 роки тому +28

      Okay. But does this system work (with the right players, assuming) ? I mean, compared to the Duke, Kentucky, Gonzaga schemes? We know that most of the top College football teams, follow the Nick Saban "sytle" of "pro style, RPO" scheme. I just wondered if this style of play is successful at the top levels of college.

    • @jimmieB318
      @jimmieB318 2 роки тому +87

      Good Question, High Level I.Q., Athleticism, and overall talent would only make this system harder to guard.

    • @Averagegamer2023
      @Averagegamer2023 2 роки тому +9

      Not sure what you are talking about Larry was ball dominating player and often dripping

    • @chikushodiz91
      @chikushodiz91 2 роки тому +79

      @@Averagegamer2023 you really never watched bird play just his scoring highlights

    • @MindfulAttraction
      @MindfulAttraction 2 роки тому +48

      @@chikushodiz91 let him think what he wants 😂😂

  • @troygoss6997
    @troygoss6997 2 роки тому +2156

    This system is genius. Ironic how an old school system is still affective in the modern game.

    • @ispartacus1337
      @ispartacus1337 2 роки тому +57

      Exactly! Same thing I always think about Mugsy Boges. Every team should have 1 player under 5'7" just to throw him in and disrupt plays. Crazy that nobody has done it since. When you have every player used to playing guys 6'4 and up having a wild card like that would completely change the game.

    • @ngweso
      @ngweso 2 роки тому +40

      effective*

    • @danktube21
      @danktube21 2 роки тому +56

      Old heads smiling in their seats right now👴🏾

    • @discosecret6363
      @discosecret6363 2 роки тому +12

      Not ironic, it makes perfect sense. It’s all about exploiting the opponents weakness and that weakness just happens to be defense. This system eats the clock so it gives your opponent less time to play offense. Pretty simple.

    • @r.s.10
      @r.s.10 2 роки тому +8

      @@ispartacus1337 As if players like Mugsy Boges are a dime a dozen lol that dude was exceptional for his height. That's like saying "why don't teams just find guys that can do Kareem's hook shot?" ... Earl Boykins was barely taller than Boges and had a long NBA career in the modern era, but these guys are extremely rare.

  • @Indi
    @Indi Рік тому +36

    That last play where they have the guard make the Iverson cut and the other guard sets multiple screens is INSANE. Genuinely genius. I love how fluid their offense looks. So smooth man.

  • @paulinoaz
    @paulinoaz 2 роки тому +71

    Beautiful basketball. In the NBA and your higher level NCAA Men's team can overcome this with pure athleticism and length but I am surprised many Women's college team and WNBA teams are not doing this.

    • @eminem1167
      @eminem1167 Рік тому +16

      They'd rather force and airball contested layups and finish games with a 40-30 score, then complain that they don't get paid as much as men.

    • @bipity-bob
      @bipity-bob Рік тому

      isnt D1 highest level college basket ball (im a hockey guy)

    • @paulinoaz
      @paulinoaz Рік тому +4

      @@bipity-bob it is. By higher level I meant elite teams like Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA, etc.

    • @poppinc8145
      @poppinc8145 Рік тому

      Look up Netball, which is its own sport. Mostly women though, kind of like softball is to baseball. I don't now why the WNBA even exists.

    • @MK-we9sw
      @MK-we9sw Рік тому +1

      ​@@poppinc8145 😂😂😂 only the US considers softball a woman's sport. Secondly, no one considers netball as basketball for women.

  • @renatoruiz8534
    @renatoruiz8534 2 роки тому +1744

    I've been playing pickup basketball with the same group of guys now for a little over 20 years. As we got slower, we adopted this style of play against younger players. We can pass faster than they can run. We win about 80% of the time.

    • @AbbaZabbaOlyFrn
      @AbbaZabbaOlyFrn 2 роки тому +77

      That's pretty cool, you guys took a page from the greats. the reason a lot of HOF players had to change up their game as their athleticism started to decline

    • @MrGoddlie
      @MrGoddlie 2 роки тому +248

      you're lying I saw you and ur granny at the YMCA getting canned

    • @theodickson3153
      @theodickson3153 2 роки тому +136

      @@MrGoddlie came outta nowhere 💀💀

    • @user-lm6me2tz9t
      @user-lm6me2tz9t 2 роки тому +12

      I used to run and screen and cut and run and screen and cut ... it is a young person's style. As you grow older you can do it, only with "the same group of guys" because you know exactly where each of you will move towards (the word running is not usually associated with what we do past some age ahaha)

    • @that_dude_tk7327
      @that_dude_tk7327 2 роки тому +18

      Damn bruh I wish I was like you. It would be a honour to play with my peers for 20 years.

  • @MikeKorzemba
    @MikeKorzemba 2 роки тому +2920

    This was a great video

    • @elijahanthony4897
      @elijahanthony4897 2 роки тому +7

      Awesome content, you should make a video on them

    • @tennispie1
      @tennispie1 2 роки тому +25

      Yes better than urs

    • @chaike9001
      @chaike9001 2 роки тому +61

      This information COULD quite LITERALLY BREAK the NBA

    • @tennispie1
      @tennispie1 2 роки тому +1

      @@ifheavenwashuman ur under 18 dont talk to me little baby

    • @stop.juststop
      @stop.juststop 2 роки тому +33

      This guy is you with a 40 inch vertical.

  • @rpkett
    @rpkett 2 роки тому +24

    I'm a Saint Mary's fan and watched the game we played against Bellarmine this past year. I came away very impressed with their crisp passing and calculated cutting. Their offense was complex and they ran it very well. Our length bothered them but it was definitely a closer game than anyone on our side anticipated. Fun team to watch.

  • @ArsenicDrone
    @ArsenicDrone 2 роки тому +9

    Great job with the graphics, and the timing of doing repetitive replays. This was much easier to follow than a normal analytical basketball video

  • @mknudstrup
    @mknudstrup 2 роки тому +1001

    This is beautiful basketball: very team oriented, unselfish, lots of court awareness. So much more fun to watch than the penetrate and pass out for 3 point shot or pound it in to the post play.

    • @gungaginga9587
      @gungaginga9587 2 роки тому +19

      Yea, I had to deal with that in high school and it INFURIATED me. People, players, and even coaches, frankly don't realize how much more fun and effective it is to move the ball quickly down the court and find the quickest way to score. It's way quicker to score when you move the ball quick and dribble as little as needed.

    • @traigreer5211
      @traigreer5211 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed.

    • @gggfightklub8449
      @gggfightklub8449 2 роки тому +4

      🧢

    • @khiangnong1349
      @khiangnong1349 2 роки тому +1

      Man, can't imagine if this style use in NBA now. Rather than giving to star player and ISO.

    • @troop5100
      @troop5100 2 роки тому

      Boring trash play.

  • @jonwalters5395
    @jonwalters5395 2 роки тому +463

    This reminds me of a line from Moneyball. “If we try to play like the Yankees in here, we will lose to the Yankees out there.” Playing the game how you want is better than trying to keep up with more individually talented players at their own game.

    • @traks9825
      @traks9825 2 роки тому +3

      Spitting

    • @Ian00003
      @Ian00003 2 роки тому +8

      That’s what analytics are at the end of the day are used for, maximizing the skill set of your players

    • @13floss
      @13floss 2 роки тому

      They aint gonna win shit tho, same as Athletics. Just more useless analytic bullshit, looks good but is total crap as the end product.

    • @kgill99
      @kgill99 2 роки тому +4

      @@13floss Did you miss the bit at the start of the video where it showed how they've been winning more since this coach started? This works. Does it work as well as being a big-time program with gigantic resources and the most talented players in the country? Of course not but he is maximising the quality of players he has which is the very definition of good coaching.

    • @BoganFromBama
      @BoganFromBama 2 роки тому +2

      @@kgill99 I’ll say this: my university just played Bellarmine tonight and I was at the game. They were the most active opponent Jacksonville State had faced all year and kept them on their P’s and Q’s. It was amazing watching the cuts and passes, the SID department I work for were joking about count dribbles in the game. We got the win but it was close, and there was almost a fight after the game. Can’t wait to play them again!

  • @bigballer2645
    @bigballer2645 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. Amazing job scouting, planning, and talking it out. 💯

  • @justinsugay1149
    @justinsugay1149 2 роки тому +6

    It's a very smart strategy. Like anything it will be figured out but knowing when to go to this with certain personnel, match ups etc. and being an expert in refining it's execution brings a more mental chess aspect/high basketball IQ/feel requirement to the game. Love it. Poetry in motion.

  • @36GodMob
    @36GodMob 2 роки тому +476

    Coach is a Hoop God…..simple science…the ball can move faster than a defender..bonus the defender wears down having to constantly be in chase mode….brilliant

    • @matthewhoward7384
      @matthewhoward7384 2 роки тому +10

      @TheMrCaptainStfu but it’s more confusing on the defensive, I’m pretty sure the offense knows the plays like the back of their hand to pull it off that well, making it like muscle memory eventually to where your just running to your individual spot like a dance team, so no one person is doing to much or has to think too hard, while the defense is on a wild goose chase looking for the ball

    • @thammar1990
      @thammar1990 2 роки тому +8

      @TheMrCaptainStfu yeah but this team is obviously built for cardio. Just like West Virginia with the full court press. Other teams usually can't keep up

    • @thammar1990
      @thammar1990 2 роки тому

      @TheMrCaptainStfu they used to beat good teams

    • @deadheadwsp705
      @deadheadwsp705 2 роки тому

      @TheMrCaptainStfu it’s take more of a toll to be reactionary rather than knowing what’s coming. Think about it like a high paced football offense. The defense is always more gassed than the offense

    • @deadheadwsp705
      @deadheadwsp705 2 роки тому

      @TheMrCaptainStfu they do have an edge because they know what play they’re running and the defense doesn’t 😂. It takes more of a toll mentally and physically to play defense

  • @racewiththefalcons1
    @racewiththefalcons1 2 роки тому +910

    This will not only exhaust the defense physically, but also mentally. It's hard trying to keep track of the ball when it's always moving, and if you can't do it consistently, not only will your opponent score, but you will start to feel defeated before the game is even in the 4th quarter.

    • @eli6797
      @eli6797 Рік тому +29

      That and people get sloppy on defense with more and more passes. Off ball movement is a hidden gem in winning championships and if everyone is moving while the ball is moved to everyone, no defender can slack but they also can’t watch the ball while watching their man. I would hate to play against that style of basketball

    • @hamoiq908
      @hamoiq908 Рік тому +10

      @@eli6797 yeah I love to play defense and it makes it so much easier when people dribble and screen cause it mkaes it a lot easier to match up with the player. As soon as heavy passing starts it gets a lot more difficult because just like in sports like soccer it makes it easier for someone to lose a player as it increases off the ball movement

    • @arabianwarrior7177
      @arabianwarrior7177 Рік тому

      agree mrs mccarthy

    • @davidcook680
      @davidcook680 Рік тому

      How do you feel about having more homosexuals. In college basketball? You support anal stretching before games.

    • @nolant5791
      @nolant5791 Рік тому +5

      And if you're working hard to track your matchup, but your teammate loses their's, I'm sure that can feel frustrating

  • @robdawgsports1060
    @robdawgsports1060 2 роки тому +7

    Having looked into the 1-4 high UCLA offense recently, I can see some inspiration from the wing series in Bellarmine’s main offensive series, with the way they run their scissor action being equatable to the post sprint down and back screen for a lob over the top

    • @nigeltufnel775
      @nigeltufnel775 Рік тому

      This more like the offense that Wooden used at UCLA during its dominance.

  • @botmoonky1
    @botmoonky1 Рік тому +1

    this popped up into my feed, im a Bellarmine alum, was really cool to watch, thanks for covering this!

  • @AdamKlownzinger
    @AdamKlownzinger 2 роки тому +232

    It was so cool to see them finally move up to D1...and actually play well

    • @MrPreds10
      @MrPreds10 2 роки тому +6

      @@honestfan442 did you expect a transitioning D-2 school to be elite ?

    • @kookthekid8338
      @kookthekid8338 2 роки тому

      @@MrPreds10 no but bro said they’re playing well, which obviously they are not compared to the competition

    • @kookthekid8338
      @kookthekid8338 2 роки тому

      @@MrPreds10 also keep in mind, they’re 3-6 currently, and two of their wins are off D3 schools

    • @mrfuzzihead
      @mrfuzzihead 2 роки тому

      @@kookthekid8338 They were great before this season. 2 years of very smooth transition to D1.

    • @Hoolix21
      @Hoolix21 2 роки тому +7

      @@kookthekid8338 keep in mind their losses are to teams that are staples of the tournament. #1 Gonzaga, #2 UCLA , #7 Purdue , Murray State, West Virginia, and Saint Mary’s.
      That’s a tough non conference schedule.

  • @garrytreymendeziii5650
    @garrytreymendeziii5650 2 роки тому +224

    This is such a fun style to watch and play. When I was a kid, my father, a great college basketball player from the 50s, would have us practice moving the ball without dribbling. Once we stopped complaining about not being able to dribble we had so much fun totally dismantling our opponents for easy layups.

    • @TheHubeef
      @TheHubeef Рік тому +2

      this is not a fun way to play. its a dumb way to play

    • @jaydubya3698
      @jaydubya3698 Рік тому +9

      @@TheHubeef To each his own, I guess. If you think it's fun to play with guys who just ball hog and then cast from 25 ft all game because they all think they're Kobe, then OK, whatever. But if you like to win as a team, it's fun to move the ball around and get the open shot while the dudes on defense are getting gassed running around trying to keep up. Everyone gets touches, everyone scores. It's all good.

    • @Worm537
      @Worm537 Рік тому

      In 1986, College NCAA I was starting varsity as a freshman for a Nationally ranked team, coming from NJ 2 Time All Star Ledger 1st Team All Everything, which is BIG SHIT in NJ. Played for a nationally ranked team in high school and college. This Coach WOULD NOT ALLOW A PLAYER TO JUMP OFF ONE FOOT for a lay up. IT SUCKED PLAYING THAT WAY. My basketball resume is BIG! I play like Kyrie Irving and Dr J with a Devin Booker Steph Curry shot and game IQ. I transferred away from the non lay up coach and had a blast again jumping off my left and / or right foot to slam and jam and pass and play. You can play on THAT only passing team and pretend you are a real player when you are not really. Take one dribble to your left or right after a good ball fake and shoot vs ONLY passing you dumby ;) I had another coach that refused to talk, communicate, or make eye contact with any referee. To make a long story, short, we went 25 and 4 and would have won the Group 4 states if our coach had half a brain. You can play pass only and I will be having more fun, playing better, and WINNING! No NBA team has ever even done that for even one possession. GIVE IT UP you basketball non players on pretending that passing is not a thing.

    • @brian4180
      @brian4180 Рік тому +2

      @@Worm537 "I play like Kyrie Irving and Dr J with a Devin Booker Steph Curry shot and game IQ" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @purdysanchez
      @purdysanchez Рік тому +2

      I've been to one NBA game in the past 5 years and 40% of the game was people faking a foul and taking free throws. Not sure why anyone watches it anymore.

  • @jerrywelter6375
    @jerrywelter6375 Рік тому +1

    So good! Haven't seen another team do this since Ralph Miller's OSU......the true workings of this system keeps everyone's focus on high speed. Also makes it fun, and fun to watch.

  • @ChildishBenbino
    @ChildishBenbino 2 роки тому

    These videos always rekindle my love for the game. Great video!

  • @BenBGolf
    @BenBGolf 2 роки тому +133

    It's hard for me to adequately express how much I love this video.
    I was coached to play basketball in a similar way, with a pass first--screen away--look for the open cutter, back cuts type of offense.
    When bball is played this way, it's like a beautiful symphony, poetry in motion. I love this so much.
    This made literally made me laugh out in pure joy as I watched this team basketball in action.
    I'm now a BIG fan of the Bellarmine Knights!

    • @c97x
      @c97x 2 роки тому

      Anyone with hands will snatch a pass.
      M2M litterally destroys this strat.
      Regardless of what they say, the players are still cutting, theyre just not screening.
      Its litterally like white kids never learned how to dribble, but they all own hoops.
      If they had half the team swinging and the other half screening and cutting they would be a menacing team, because they lack ego, and hold awareness.

  • @MichaelPiz
    @MichaelPiz 2 роки тому +57

    This offense is almost exactly what my dad coached when I was playing youth basketball. Circa 1972.
    We won a lot.

    • @davidcook680
      @davidcook680 Рік тому +1

      But did you have the gays on your team.

    • @MichaelPiz
      @MichaelPiz Рік тому +12

      @@davidcook680 What does that have to do with anything?

    • @xum0007
      @xum0007 Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelPiz he must really have something against gays perhaps he’s religious

  • @Andrewkosche
    @Andrewkosche Рік тому

    Incredible editing. Made everything so easy to follow!

  • @tommoore7038
    @tommoore7038 5 місяців тому

    So fun to watch. Doug Moe's Denver Nuggets used to run a passing game like this. They were my favorite team to watch back in the day. Never won a ring, but always solid competitive competit

  • @noitallmanaz
    @noitallmanaz 2 роки тому +149

    In my 25 yeaars of coaching, I have always practiced my offense without dribbling. If the ball hit the floor, it was a turnover. Forced my players to learn how to cut, move, screen and never stand still. Also forced us defensively to play harder, stay with guys, not get back-doored and able to withstand long defensive possessions. Works like a charm, especially if you have shooters and finishers. All these players now want to dribble the life out of the ball, and they don't need to.

    • @Jerryfallwell
      @Jerryfallwell 2 роки тому

      That’s awesome!

    • @KobiFC
      @KobiFC 2 роки тому +1

      I appreciate your insight, that's fascinating

    • @TomatoTomato911
      @TomatoTomato911 2 роки тому

      I am guessing you just need tall players then.

    • @anyonebuthillary4712
      @anyonebuthillary4712 2 роки тому

      I used to do no dribbling In parts of scrimmages in practice with my team all the time

  • @DougWilliams06
    @DougWilliams06 2 роки тому +304

    This also seems like a good way to mitigate having 'less talented' individual players (relative to 1&done programs with pre-NBA players).

    • @user-lb5vt4ll9c
      @user-lb5vt4ll9c 2 роки тому +2

      Great point

    • @johntallanger4036
      @johntallanger4036 2 роки тому

      Not really. Running a better system that is superior you always get an advantage. The more talented the players running the superior system the more you win by.

    • @Marclouispierre
      @Marclouispierre 2 роки тому +11

      @@johntallanger4036 Change "Not rely" to "To add to your point"

    • @johntallanger4036
      @johntallanger4036 2 роки тому

      @@Marclouispierre No. "Not really" is correct.
      If you're viewing running this kind of offense as a talent mitigation strategy then the point has been missed.

    • @Marclouispierre
      @Marclouispierre 2 роки тому

      @@johntallanger4036 ✅ I read that wrong.

  • @Sleeper_productions
    @Sleeper_productions Рік тому +1

    I rarely watch basketball. But this is amazing, it really makes me appreciate the beauty of coaching and an effective game plan. Great breakdown

  • @mikereid4521
    @mikereid4521 Рік тому +2

    Riley Wallace, coach of Univ of Hawai'i 1987-2007, ran this style of play. It was fun to watch and allowed our under-recruited players to compete night in and night out. More easy baskets as most are at the rim.

  • @I2oseTheory
    @I2oseTheory 2 роки тому +355

    You should make a video of why certain extreme offenses in college would or would not be effective in the NBA.

    • @Rohan_Mehta
      @Rohan_Mehta 2 роки тому +70

      I’d say the main reason is that nba rotations don’t run nearly as deep and the gap between a superstar and a role player is bigger than in college. Schemes like this wouldn’t allow your star to create offense for others

    • @USALibertarian
      @USALibertarian 2 роки тому +5

      Having adult profrssionald play 70+ games makes a lot of strategies hard.

    • @brianadams8832
      @brianadams8832 2 роки тому +4

      @@Rohan_Mehtain many cases I agree. But imagine joker running point from the foul line on those actions.

    • @TheForbiddenDance
      @TheForbiddenDance 2 роки тому +16

      because its too risky for high major program coaches or nba coaches because if they have one bad season doing this you get canned immediately.

    • @lewcy
      @lewcy 2 роки тому +29

      It’s only because NBA guys won’t buy into being unselfish at all times. You can barely get 90% to contest a layup let alone pass up the first open 30 footer they see

  • @cesarnavalon6357
    @cesarnavalon6357 2 роки тому +171

    Passing and cutting is the most beautiful way to enjoy (playing or watching) any team, ball sport. Everyone is engaged in each possession. They make it look so easy! But anyone who has actually played knows this requires a lot of focus, practice and team chemistry to execute the system to perfection

    • @triptychlux
      @triptychlux 2 роки тому +3

      we see so much iso scoring these days old style looks nice to watch now. maybe people will appreciate wilt/bill/west/baylor etc after all lol.

    • @rjnsg2953
      @rjnsg2953 2 роки тому +2

      @@triptychlux the reason we see so much is because people tryna go to the league play like this wont get u there.

    • @triptychlux
      @triptychlux 2 роки тому +1

      @@rjnsg2953 it works at college level it doesn't need to be applied in nba imo

    • @jreines5635
      @jreines5635 2 роки тому +3

      @@triptychlux I think what RSG is saying is that NBA hopeful college players wouldn’t want to play in this system because they can’t showcase themselves in this type of offense.

    • @gamble777888
      @gamble777888 2 роки тому

      Not to mention stamina.

  • @danielernst9714
    @danielernst9714 2 роки тому

    this is the best video I've ever seen off this account and Hoop Vision always produces great content lol

  • @randman21
    @randman21 Рік тому +2

    Love it man! My high school coach was cut from the same cloth. Super old school game. High ball movement, low scoring. Our practices had a 5-10 pass minimum per play before even attempting a shot.
    We unfortunately didn't have the personnel to pull it off. We kinda just did what we wanted during games and lost a lot 🤦🏿‍♂️ this is my first time seeing this type of play in modern basketball. Take note, it works extremely well.

  • @zdragon4575
    @zdragon4575 2 роки тому +47

    This just pushes the idea of positionless basketball forward, I love it

    • @romiarkan450
      @romiarkan450 2 роки тому +6

      You still need some size though cause well the basket is 10 feet in the air.

    • @anyonebuthillary4712
      @anyonebuthillary4712 2 роки тому

      ??? Some of these are run through the 5 and others the guards

  • @hferrell
    @hferrell 2 роки тому +87

    I cannot explain how much I love this

  • @user-kp7ls7ml1h
    @user-kp7ls7ml1h 2 роки тому

    omg i love this vid about passing, no dribble so much , and ty so much for sharing this one :) deeply appreciated, i saw the vid with you and GM (Taiwanese) talking, and i really like ur channel i have also sub , keep going !

  • @xhappybunnyx
    @xhappybunnyx 2 роки тому

    The tracked overlays on this were amazing and well worth the effort

  • @Bunnymajs
    @Bunnymajs 2 роки тому +118

    As an European who's been watching other sports and never really watched basketball before last year, i always found it weird how little passes there are. But this looks a lot like how you play handball, pass around the perimeter until there is a crack in the wall and attack it. Pretty dope looking

    • @j0kersmoker
      @j0kersmoker 2 роки тому +12

      This is how we taught to play basketball in Europe in the early/mid 2000s. Constant rotation and screens + 1 dribble layups/shots, very little driving.

    • @InsomniaNest
      @InsomniaNest 2 роки тому +1

      Reminds me of Netball too with less bounce passes

    • @christiang5209
      @christiang5209 2 роки тому +1

      @@j0kersmoker i know drills like this system, but also the game at least in germany was different to this in the early and mid '2000s' on the amateur level i know and especially on the pro level. I would have say it was a lot more pick and roll/pop + and i different to today postup but not from the guards like here. i guess mids 00 rattelsdorf, crailsheim and göttingen made noises implementing the guard terror scheme which also plays with very small lineups but a totally different offensiv approach (very fast shots) and lots of press defence ... Not so common, but very new and good results for the 'money'. Göttingen even made it to the bbl and etablished then there.

    • @vykintaspliavga5187
      @vykintaspliavga5187 2 роки тому +1

      in Europe players are able to stand in 3 second box as much as they want, so many of those cuts would be close with zone defence, so this won't be that easy in Europe to do this

    • @MathieuPilot
      @MathieuPilot 2 роки тому

      @@vykintaspliavga5187 It would still work perfectly fine against a zone with a few adjustments: more 3pts, more mid-range open shots, less open layups

  • @SlushyyHyuga
    @SlushyyHyuga 2 роки тому +51

    I’m from Louisville, KY. I went to Bellarmine college for training camp back in HS & this is in fact what they do. This is practically what they teach you during drills as well, as a HS player.

  • @HyuProductions
    @HyuProductions 2 роки тому

    This totally reminds me Rick Torbett’s read and react system with all the pass and cuts,along with effective screens. Love it!

  • @OeloDickAble
    @OeloDickAble Рік тому

    Man, what a well-produced video, i really enjoy this.

  • @allenroughton
    @allenroughton 2 роки тому +111

    The editing and graphics on this video make this system so clear that I'm easily understanding the Xs & Os like I never have before. You did an amazing job with this video and I can't wait to watch more. And wow is Bellarmine fun to watch!

  • @martyallgeier4089
    @martyallgeier4089 2 роки тому +125

    This is dope! My cousin played for them for 4 years, he loved playing for Coach Davenport! He ended up leading Division II (They were D2 at the time) in scoring once or twice and was a two time All American. Scotty definitely utilized Rusty’s shooting ability and willingness to move without the ball as good as any coach could’ve. He lit up Indiana and Louisville a couple of times.

    • @Webhinho7
      @Webhinho7 2 роки тому +11

      I remember him he was a killer bro. I’m a Louisville fan lol

    • @thomasfinch6292
      @thomasfinch6292 2 роки тому +5

      Troutman?! Loved that guy!

  • @brandonr.2807
    @brandonr.2807 3 місяці тому

    Great video! reminds me a lot of a hockey powerplay setup. lots of passing to create space.

  • @morecowbell235
    @morecowbell235 2 роки тому +21

    Great video, thanks. I watched Murray State beat Bellarmine by almost 20 early this season. (it was close at half time).
    I immediately noticed Bellarmine's unique style of offense. I also noticed they struggle a bit on defense and they turn the ball over. A LOT.
    To be fair, Murray St is having a great year and are tops in their conference, so that played a part.

    • @mikehunt3436
      @mikehunt3436 Рік тому +1

      It seems like an offensive system that if they start falling behind they have a tought time coming back.

    • @emmanuela7528
      @emmanuela7528 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, I’m not surprised at the turnovers. All that passing increases the chances that one would be loose.

  • @brennnen1099
    @brennnen1099 2 роки тому +20

    That teamwork brings tears to my eyes it’s a beautiful sight.

  • @jpatt85
    @jpatt85 2 роки тому +24

    We played against a team that played like this. That was the MOST tired that I had ever been with time still left on the clock.. Everyone's energy was on -10% and we still had 4 minutes left to play in the game.

  • @allenwitherspoon6986
    @allenwitherspoon6986 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome basketball. Nice on the eyes to watch also. Its like hearing Mozart but seeing an orchestration play out through bball. Love this style!

  • @masonjones3427
    @masonjones3427 Рік тому +1

    it makes perfect sense too. I am a Texas Tech fan who is well known for having an amazing Defense as they originated the "no middle" d. One thing I have always noticed is when a team gets into a passing rhythm they can manipulate the fast pace movement of the Tech defense then boom someone is open for a wide open 3. However, running a normal offense that utilizes screens and dribbling is rarely effective unless there is a mistake by the d or some truly amazing skill from the opposing player.

  • @joshuascafidi3851
    @joshuascafidi3851 2 роки тому +44

    This system requires amazing conditioning, because you have to be always moving, since the ball handler can't make his own play

  • @TheyCallHimMarvelous
    @TheyCallHimMarvelous 2 роки тому +79

    I know I’m not the only one trying desperately to incorporate this in nba2k 😂😂

    • @otislarry5192
      @otislarry5192 2 роки тому +2

      LMAO

    • @victor-nk9eh
      @victor-nk9eh 2 роки тому

      is it working

    • @TheyCallHimMarvelous
      @TheyCallHimMarvelous 2 роки тому +4

      @@victor-nk9eh play wise, the scissors concept is, I just have to tinker with the tendencies

    • @tercial
      @tercial 2 роки тому

      Good luck trying this with random players.

    • @suprxmememe6803
      @suprxmememe6803 2 роки тому +3

      I'd love to see some "scissor action" as well

  • @jazzminemore6071
    @jazzminemore6071 Рік тому

    Beautiful man. Art in motion.

  • @1234Peacekeeper
    @1234Peacekeeper 2 роки тому

    Alright already,
    Not a hoopshead, but 3 videos in, great quality clear commentary and spot on analysis.
    You've got a sub and some shares

  • @kybassin200
    @kybassin200 2 роки тому +57

    As a Louisville fan i know Bellarmine very well. I aslo think you should look at another small team from Kentucky, the Eastern Kentucky Colonles. They are one of the best offenses in the country. One of the fastest tempos and paces in the country. As well as a great defense that press the whole 40 minutes.

    • @stop.juststop
      @stop.juststop 2 роки тому

      L1C4!

    • @samsquanch1234
      @samsquanch1234 2 роки тому

      What's even better, how Louisville is the 4th-5th best team in the state

  • @dash4800
    @dash4800 2 роки тому +23

    This would be a fun system to play in. Everyone is involved and their combined high IQ play is what gives the team success. Its such a contrast to the modern basketball style of 1 player with the ball and 3 guys stand there waiting for a pass. Here everyone is the assist man and the scorer. Any play could be your chance to help out. Thats just beautiful basketball.

    • @danktube21
      @danktube21 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds like Guardiolas Barca

  • @jamessullivan4934
    @jamessullivan4934 3 місяці тому

    This was a bball clinic. Thanks for this great video. Learned so much

  • @flyingthundergod3999
    @flyingthundergod3999 2 роки тому

    Love this play style, it’s so satisfying to watch

  • @snomelc920J
    @snomelc920J 2 роки тому +16

    This coach is a Legend . Efficiency unheard of. Hands down. 💯

  • @SaRKasTiKTurtl3
    @SaRKasTiKTurtl3 2 роки тому +10

    That is definitely a great way to create solid team adhesion. I like how they took something so fundamental and refined it. Great video!

  • @owenmccullor5063
    @owenmccullor5063 2 роки тому

    Great breakdown video

  • @CaptNaptastic
    @CaptNaptastic Рік тому +5

    This was only a practice drill when I played. Our coach had two die and whatever they landed on, that’s how many times we had to pass it before we could shoot. We weren’t allowed to dribble either. When we got the ball, we’d have to stay where we were and wait for our teammates to get open. Taught us about passing, cutting, and when you were on defense, taught us about man on man.

    • @bohunt8113
      @bohunt8113 3 місяці тому

      Oh, teams thought that when our coach yelled a number out that it was the play we were running, but it was how many passes we needed to make before shooting. If we shot before then, we came out of the game, even if it were wide open.

  • @sotacoachj
    @sotacoachj 2 роки тому +8

    Absolutely beautiful.
    Phrase we use often is "the dribble doesn't change the view for the defense, the pass does." We're not to this extreme, but this is our goal.

  • @loud_laughter
    @loud_laughter 2 роки тому +36

    As a player (I wasn’t a great scorer, but I was always on the court due to my commitment to defense) I can say that I had a much more difficult time w/ unselfish teams. Passing makes playing defense exhausting! I’ll admit, in moments I’d lose my discipline and cheat. Great passing breaks a defense down physically, yes... but over time-mentally. I was more athletic than most guards I’d cover, but if they passed well as a team, I could be neutralized. I LOVED it when players dribbled... that’s when I could direct them where I wanted them to go and sneak a couple steals.

    • @christiang5209
      @christiang5209 2 роки тому

      To be honest, how they work to get the open passes it is also exhausting for the offense ... One thing i like to check out after the video is, if they utilise there bench more then the opponents. n germany there where a few small ball teams, with lots of press defence which did quite well for some time (and they had to use there bench more then the normal team through this tactical approach)

    • @MathieuPilot
      @MathieuPilot 2 роки тому

      @@christiang5209 So true. With so many cuts and movement off the ball, you exhaust yourself on offense. Whereas with isolation or pick&roll, only 1 or 2 players are spending energy on the offense while the others can rest a bit.

  • @YourFitnessQuest
    @YourFitnessQuest 2 роки тому +1

    Great breakdown of their offense. Props to this team for their discipline and teamwork. It's refreshing to see a team move the ball without having to put it on the floor. So many players today want to show off and break ankles but they actually slow the offense down with all the dribbling. This reminds me of Klay Thompson scoring 60 points with only 11 dribbles.

  • @deandrejenkins7929
    @deandrejenkins7929 2 роки тому +1

    I'm literally in awe!!

  • @lucasborja3797
    @lucasborja3797 2 роки тому +30

    I always learn so much with these videos, love these new concepts you show

  • @rjquick1027
    @rjquick1027 2 роки тому +18

    Would love to see this coach get so big recruits for a season or so!!! This also has to be a fun team to play on and the team chemistry must be off the charts!!! Just amazing

    • @rjquick1027
      @rjquick1027 2 роки тому

      @Goodie yeah it’s definitely some fun looking bask; but honestly golden state offense is very similar!

  • @mcqueeninvestments5191
    @mcqueeninvestments5191 2 роки тому

    This is one of the dopest analysis ever!!👌👏

  • @Illuminejanemar
    @Illuminejanemar 2 роки тому

    Amazing basketball, cool analysis, great video

  • @metahand7188
    @metahand7188 2 роки тому +58

    An offense that has lots of passes, ball and player movement than dribbles, the least amount of ball screens, and also a read and react offense. Imagine Steve Kerr watching this video.

    • @ciamciaramcia99
      @ciamciaramcia99 2 роки тому

      Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Kerr's GSW style includes plenty of ball screens.

    • @hilzy9
      @hilzy9 2 роки тому +7

      @@ciamciaramcia99 The Warriors run more ball screens than Bellarmine but compared to the rest of the NBA they are on the lower end. They also run more off ball screens than Bellarmine does though just based off these clips.

    • @iRaps1
      @iRaps1 2 роки тому +2

      I don't think Steve Kerr has to watch this video to know about the option to play this way lmfaoo

  • @tyharris9994
    @tyharris9994 2 роки тому +14

    When you move the ball you move the defense. This is simple yet profound. This guy is a true savant.

  • @STYLEE-T
    @STYLEE-T 4 місяці тому

    Super DOPE breakdown. One that you allowed me to understand. I saw everything! I'm going to congratulate Coach Chris Oliver personally.❤

  • @mattyb3050
    @mattyb3050 Рік тому

    This is absolutely fascinating. I might have to try and watch them some this season

  • @Abusaccoh2004
    @Abusaccoh2004 2 роки тому +16

    They are playing fundamentally advance basketball a lot of teams just rely on a few players but this team gets every player involved amazing vision team

  • @chrismjones34
    @chrismjones34 2 роки тому +14

    Pure and efficient form of basketball. It's also a great style to teach young players to help them learn how to read the defense and their teammates. Bellarmine makes this look simple, but it's more complicated than it looks. Great job to this coach!

  • @luquibo418
    @luquibo418 Рік тому +1

    I like this style of play basketball, i really enjoy what how they move as just one organism

  • @michael.schuler
    @michael.schuler Рік тому

    Unique offensive approach, very clearly presented and analyzed.

  • @penguins.227
    @penguins.227 2 роки тому +6

    I love this! We tried this my junior year of high school the final year before our coach had to retire with health issues. I think we called it Flex? It was constant movement and cutting, but the amount of times the lane or baseline ended up wide open from drawing the defense out was so satisfying.

  • @user-wu8zv5sh3m
    @user-wu8zv5sh3m 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for your time and effort to explain this in detail! Great review of the offense!

  • @Football__Junkie
    @Football__Junkie Рік тому

    I remember living in Kentucky between 2011-2013 when Kentucky, Louisville, Bellarmine, Georgetown College, and Pikeville all won college basketball national championships. Helluva basketball state.
    Not to mention, Murray St and Western Kentucky won multiple conference championships and made the NCAA tourney, too. I Eastern Kentucky won conference title and made the tourney in there, too.

  • @djkilpatrick5256
    @djkilpatrick5256 Рік тому +1

    It’s beautiful style of basketball! I could watch this all day

  • @Alvini_Linguine
    @Alvini_Linguine 2 роки тому +296

    I looked it up and noticed that no one even has more than 4 assists per game this season. Everyone gets touches to be able to pass the ball. Truly the definition of Spurs basketball. I couldn’t even how mind numbing going against a offense like this especially with how much IQ those players have. Boring style of play, sure, but effective, hell yeah

  • @bballwatcher2224
    @bballwatcher2224 2 роки тому +6

    I loved your collaboration with Ben Taylor (Thinking Basketball)! Love your style of analysis and hope you grow!

  • @francoispicaud9631
    @francoispicaud9631 7 місяців тому

    Man I love your videos. You are putting so mucho work into this.... and the explanation is pretty clear! Maybe adding some "drawings" to explain could be even more effective.

  • @ColeYounger16
    @ColeYounger16 3 місяці тому

    Goes to show everything always go back to the fundamentals. I was fortunate enough to attend Hoosier Basketball Camp at Bledsoe's Beach IN back in tthe early 80's. We had all the Big 10 coaches, players and even refs come to teach us. People like Jud Heathcoat, Johnny Orr, and, many more. The bottom line was cutting and passing were stressed back then way more than shooting and dribbling. Very awesome video, I'm a new sub.

  • @joeclements8848
    @joeclements8848 2 роки тому +4

    This is my Alma Mater. The DII championship was incredible to experience as a student of a small school. Lucky to be there during that time. Scott Davenport is an amazing person and an incredible coach

  • @dfrnt_hues
    @dfrnt_hues 2 роки тому +7

    Amazing video, I haven’t coached in 3 years but this got the juices flowing. Lol

  • @peanutbrown3697
    @peanutbrown3697 Рік тому

    Absolutely, beautiful movement.

  • @krugz_
    @krugz_ 3 місяці тому

    beautiful basketball. it looks so fluid!

  • @robertholder8110
    @robertholder8110 2 роки тому +6

    This is just about identical to "The Wheel" my high school ran. Never thought of how little we dribbled in the half court until now...
    Crazy hard to defend even when you know what's coming. We played against "The Wheel" my senior year (after a coaching change we switched offenses and were nowhere near as good) and still lost... :(
    When I coached high school we installed "The Wheel" and basked in all it's glory as we raked in the W's!

  • @XFactorz17
    @XFactorz17 2 роки тому +11

    Basketball in its purest form. I wish more teams played like this...especially in the NBA.

  • @jordandasuqi1562
    @jordandasuqi1562 2 роки тому

    Great breakdown man 👍

  • @ghmongo
    @ghmongo 2 роки тому +24

    0:46 Man, we can't ever count out Team, that college basketball powerhouse.