Why EuroLeague’s GOAT Scorer Failed In The NBA

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2024
  • Mike James just became the EuroLeague's all time leading scorer. Mike James is the greatest american player to ever play overseas, but why did Mike James fail in the NBA? What happened to Mike James in the NBA and why is the EuroLeague's GOAT scorer not on an NBA team? The Brooklyn Nets, New Orleans Pelicans and Phoenix Suns all waived Mike James. But why?
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  • @DKM_Sports
    @DKM_Sports  Місяць тому +7

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  • @johnvaughan8239
    @johnvaughan8239 2 місяці тому +632

    He is, in no universe, reality, dimension or imagination, better than Steph Curry. It is an absurd, flabbergasting and disrespectful comparison. It’s not even close.

    • @Tarquin2718
      @Tarquin2718 2 місяці тому +8

      Haha agreed: Better than Curry. In what year did Mike score the EU equivalent of 402 3pt in one season? I think not
      I looked it up
      Curry is 4,5 made 3pt per game at ~41%
      Mike J is 2.6 3pt per game at 40%
      He is half as good as Curry, but since it is not a linear scale this means he is about 1000? times less good than Curry ❤

    • @cheguevarabig20
      @cheguevarabig20 2 місяці тому +34

      @@Tarquin2718 In what universe can you compare 82 games regular season to just 36 where every game counts, and also 8 minutes shorter games are played. Have you ever watched Euroleage?

    • @eghoseisiramen1892
      @eghoseisiramen1892 2 місяці тому +53

      @@cheguevarabig20it doesn’t matter cause he’s still not even in the same level

    • @coachm.forrest8958
      @coachm.forrest8958 2 місяці тому +4

      How does anyone know who's better? The only way to know who's better would require them to play 1 v 1.

    • @coldwell830
      @coldwell830 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@coachm.forrest8958 sorry you capped! Not necessarily.
      This dude can't be compared to SC in his sleep. He had his moments in the NBA, why he didn't score 30, 40 or hell even 25 in tow consecutive games lol

  • @soloro7112
    @soloro7112 2 місяці тому +271

    NBA Champions should play against Europe Champions every year

    • @starwarz8479
      @starwarz8479 2 місяці тому +15

      That's actually gonna be quite entertaining
      But What rules are they gonna play under?

    • @troymiller1426
      @troymiller1426 2 місяці тому

      Should alternate. One year NBA one year FIBA@@starwarz8479

    • @nedajtesepasjimsinovima
      @nedajtesepasjimsinovima 2 місяці тому +30

      @@starwarz8479 The very rules under which majority of the basketball world plays.

    • @starwarz8479
      @starwarz8479 2 місяці тому +19

      @@nedajtesepasjimsinovima so fiba rules? not the NBA rules?
      It'd be interesting to watch regardless of which rules they play.

    • @nedajtesepasjimsinovima
      @nedajtesepasjimsinovima 2 місяці тому +28

      @@starwarz8479 Preferably, FIBA rules.

  • @braxton414
    @braxton414 2 місяці тому +388

    The guy who just did a between-the-legs dunk is unathletic. Then wtf am I

    • @Kill_Bill_007
      @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +51

      James is a very athletic player and always has been. Yeah, that comment made no sense.

    • @liammcdonnell5632
      @liammcdonnell5632 2 місяці тому +9

      He's saying he's unathletic compared to his peers. A lot of pro-basketball players can do stuff like that in their sleep. Most can get their whole arms in the hoop

    • @Kill_Bill_007
      @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +29

      @@liammcdonnell5632 Very few pro basketball players are as athletic as James. Very few NBA players are as athletic as James. It is just wrong to say that he isn't athletic.

    • @kwii22789
      @kwii22789 2 місяці тому

      He's short.

    • @gmailgmail6234
      @gmailgmail6234 2 місяці тому

      Every basketball player can do that

  • @KT-pb6gf
    @KT-pb6gf 2 місяці тому +364

    Him calling Steph one dimensional reeks of jealousy

    • @Baguenaudeur
      @Baguenaudeur 2 місяці тому +26

      It's simple, imagine Steph Curry without his 3pt shooting ability.
      It's still a very good player, but a legend? No.
      On the other hand, if you take one key element out of Jordan, he's still the goat. He had way too many ways to hurt you.
      I get what he was trying to say, even though "unidimensional" is way too strong.

    • @georgeatte788
      @georgeatte788 2 місяці тому +90

      @@BaguenaudeurBruh that's like saying imagine Kareem without his hookshot or Mutombo without his defensive ability. These are players that are masters of their skill. Steph doesn't need to go inside for the dunk/lay up cause he's just that good at shooting 3s and his team takes care of the rest.

    • @bandito241
      @bandito241 2 місяці тому +20

      @@Baguenaudeurtake speed or strength out of MJ and he’s not a legend either. Just stop it. Those guys are legends because they’re outstanding at what they do. Anyone can shoot threes but Curry can make >40% of those while shooting like 20 shots per game. Nobody right now is that good. Add his other abilities, like slashing and making amazing passes and that’s why Curry is a legend.
      MJ was an animal because he had the strength, hops and speed to outrun and outmuscle anyone from almost any position and the finesse to outscore guys stronger and bigger than him.
      Just stop it.

    • @philrosales7043
      @philrosales7043 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Baguenaudeur nahhhh remove Jordan's scoring he's not the goat, sorry wrong explanation

    • @omarwanace23_45
      @omarwanace23_45 2 місяці тому

      @@georgeatte788 So? It doesn't change the fact that without his 3-point ability, he basically nothing

  • @phillycezaarr9963
    @phillycezaarr9963 2 місяці тому +156

    Ppl laughed at Luka bc they didn’t understand him, he was saying it’s easier to score bc there’s more spacing and you can’t camp in the paint bc of the 3 sec rule, which I think they should get rid of. But bc of the talent in the NBA it’s a lot harder to double team and leave others open bc everyone can shoot.

    • @liammcdonnell5632
      @liammcdonnell5632 2 місяці тому +27

      Yeah, I hate seeing guys try to compare the nba and Euroleague. It's too different to make a meaningful comparison.

    • @Gadgets20
      @Gadgets20 Місяць тому +1

      @@liammcdonnell5632 They're more similar than they are different.

    • @osiris1071
      @osiris1071 Місяць тому +8

      Nba isn't a league as it used to be and where defense isn't played as intense as in the euroleague. Also team play in euroleague is better than nba. It is a team game. La lakers in their championship year with Kobe Bryant lost a game to euroleague team back then and that team was up like 20 points. Even if you are the goat teamplay beats you when you have a shitty team and nba is lacking of it so yeah scoring in nba is easier than the euroleague. If you give a chance and watch eauroleague games you can understand what i'm saying. Or you can keep lamely name nba champions as the world champions 😂...

    • @northofmainstreet7281
      @northofmainstreet7281 Місяць тому +3

      @@osiris1071American basketball culture embraces iso basketball.. shot creation in a one on one situation carries a lot of value in the United States until you get to college level basketball..
      In Europe you don't have the same history of basketball the United States has. Team play is a huge factor at the youth level in Europe not in United States.. some players in the United States are taught both sides but opt to play more iso ball due to the culture.
      This narrative that euro league players still in Europe are better than the players in the united states is false..

    • @quann06
      @quann06 Місяць тому +1

      No, he was just saying due to the rules not the players. Mike just isn't a good enough player to play with the talent of the NBA. Luka isn't the only one who said this. Many players have said it's harder to score in the Euroleague due to the rules. The NBA would be far better with Euroleague rules.

  • @A.Wojnarowski
    @A.Wojnarowski 2 місяці тому +557

    No offense, Mike James is a very good scorer, but he has no business in Euroleague GOAT convo. One-dimensional, pure scorer, with zero titles (or even final appearences). He has a lot worse case than LBJ as NBA GOAT. Modern Euroleague GOAT status goes currently between Saras or Kill Bill.

    • @brandonbotley5209
      @brandonbotley5209 2 місяці тому +165

      It says goat scorer not goat of the euro league which is two completely different things

    • @abdiomar6987
      @abdiomar6987 2 місяці тому +11

      What happened to Kill Bill(Vassilis Spanoulis) when he went to the NBA to play for Houston Rockets?

    • @mihailopavlovic2027
      @mihailopavlovic2027 2 місяці тому +22

      ​@abdiomar6987 He never got the chance or freedom he would need. Look at what happened to Micić after being traded and getting freedom. Coach didnt believe in him, and that's the worst thing that can happen to you. He played over 20 minutes only 2 games, and scored 13 points in both, now his last game he shot horribly (1/7) but shot 11/12 from the FT line, and in the first game he shot 4/9 which is not horrible.
      It's a process of adapting to a different kind of basketball. Look at Jokic, in his NBA debut he had 2 points and was a backup for Jusuf Nurkić, but Malone believed in him, he saw something in him, and now he is a 2x MVP and won Denver its first ever ring ofc being named a FMVP.
      If Kill Bill got a chance in 1 more season, getting time to adapt, he would have been much better. (Not saying he would have been as good as in Euroleague, but better than he was for sure).

    • @joshualucky8001
      @joshualucky8001 2 місяці тому +5

      In the NBA you just get 3 games to try and score and do some silly signs and trend a bit or else you get cut

    • @poppatheegoat
      @poppatheegoat 2 місяці тому +7

      Damn learn how to read, it said Euroleague Goat scorer not the Goat.
      So saying he a pure scorer that what video saying

  • @Tuvok_Shakur
    @Tuvok_Shakur 2 місяці тому +188

    "how can you stop that" you ask? i dont know, just ask the nba defenders how they did it lol

    • @thehazardousgamerjr3119
      @thehazardousgamerjr3119 2 місяці тому +23

      He average 9 points and 4 assists while playing just 19 mins in his career as a bench warmer ☠️

    • @T-Add
      @T-Add 2 місяці тому +40

      @@thehazardousgamerjr3119 So he got stopped in practice. That's how you become a bench warmer.

    • @Shawn-Leider
      @Shawn-Leider 2 місяці тому +30

      He wasn’t given the opportunity in the nba lol. People act like he was given a team to control like he had in euro league. He wasn’t. Sorta like how when Demarcus cousins fell off. He woulda still been capable of scoring a lot. He wasn’t given that role anymore. Idk how people don’t understand his. Do people realize coaches coach and players aren’t always allowed to take shots at will and create looks for themselves

    • @cubbdacrossfacecrippler
      @cubbdacrossfacecrippler 2 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Good one.

    • @cubbdacrossfacecrippler
      @cubbdacrossfacecrippler 2 місяці тому

      ​@@T-Add😂😂😂😂😂. That is how you do it.

  • @Kill_Bill_007
    @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +52

    Just to clarify, Mike James was never the Greek League MVP. He was the Greek League finals MVP 2 times, but never the overall league MVP. Also, as far as Mike James being the EuroLeague GOAT if he wins 1 EuroLeague championship...no. No disrespect to Mike James at all, as he is a really, really good EuroLeague player.
    But there is no way he is even remotely close to being in the EuroLeague GOAT discussion with winning just 1 EuroLeague championship, if he is able to do so at some point. That does not even put him in the GOAT conversation at all. 1 EuroLeague title is nowhere near enough to be compared to modern EuroLeague players like:
    Vassilis Spanoulis
    Dejan Bodiroga
    Dimitris Diamantidis
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    or also guys like:
    Juan Carlos Navarro
    Antoine Rigaudeau
    Theo Papaloukas
    Vasilje Micic
    Nando De Colo
    Ramunas Siskauskas
    If he won 1 EuroLeague title, James is still far away from Spanoulis for the GOAT discussions (not even close), or also Bodiroga, or also Diamantidis and Jasikevicius. In all honesty, Mike James isn't even as high on the EuroLeague GOAT ladder as players like:
    Sergio Llull
    Milos Teodosic
    Anthony Parker
    Sergio Rodriguez
    Then you have FIBA era EuroLeague players, and also Mike James is not as high as many of them for GOAT discussions either, like:
    Janis Krumins
    Emiliano Rodriguez
    Clifford Luyk
    Sergey Belov
    Wayne Brabender
    Bob Morse
    Manolo Raga
    Dino Meneghin
    Walter Szczerbiak
    Miki Berkovich
    Antonello Riva
    Epi
    Drazen Petrovic
    Bob McAdoo
    Nikos Galis
    Dino Radja
    Toni Kukoc
    Sasha Danilovic
    Sasha Djordjevic
    Panagiotis Giannakis
    Arvydas Sabonis
    This doesn't even mention players like:
    Radivoj Korac
    Drazen Dalipagic
    Kresmir Cosic
    Mirza Delibasic
    Dragan Kicanovic
    Ivo Daneu
    Zarko Paspalj
    Ibrahim Kutluay
    Carlton Myers
    Petar Naumoski
    Nikos Oikonomou
    Zeljko Rebraca
    etc.
    If we limit it to JUST American players, even then Mike James is not the GOAT American EuroLeague player. As players like:
    Anthony Parker
    Shane Larkin
    would be higher than him on the EuroLeague GOAT ladder for modern players, with guys like:
    Alphonso Ford
    Mike Batiste
    Trajan Langdon
    Kyle Hines
    JR Holden
    also in such a discussion.
    If we include the FIBA era Americans, then Mike James is also behind a whole bunch of other Americans on the GOAT ladder, like:
    Clifford Luyk
    Wayne Brabender
    Bob Morse
    Walt Szczerbiak
    Tal Brody
    Lou Silver
    Jim Boatwright
    Audie Norris
    Nikos Galis
    Joe Arlauckas
    David Rivers
    Tyus Edney
    In all honesty, while Mike James has had a really good EuroLeague career, he's not even remotely close to being in the EuroLeague GOAT discussion right now. Maybe IF he wins the EuroLeague MVP this season, AND the EuroLeague championship AND EuroLeague Final Four MVP this season, THEN maybe we can talk about maybe putting him in EuroLeague Top 30 all-time discussions.
    It's actually insulting and outrageous to so many previous EuroLeague great players that all of these Mike James EuroLeague GOAT videos are popping up everywhere. If we put it in terms of an NBA equivalency, putting Mike James in the EuroLeague GOAT conversation is basically the equivalent of saying Demar Derozan is in the NBA GOAT conversation.

    • @ric05369
      @ric05369 2 місяці тому +33

      The adderall was definitely bussin when you wrote this

    • @dizzl3ee
      @dizzl3ee 2 місяці тому

      @@ric05369😂

    • @alex4247
      @alex4247 2 місяці тому

      .

    • @Obstakill
      @Obstakill 2 місяці тому +1

      You better include Tyrese Rice for goat American euro league player

    • @Regard-zt7gk
      @Regard-zt7gk День тому

      ....so thats what a ether looks like

  • @Kill_Bill_007
    @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +84

    If the NBA tripled the length of its regular season, and someone then broke LeBron's scoring record, videos talking about it would definitely point that out and also how no one really cares about the record anymore because of that. It's the same case here with this record for EuroLeague and that should have been explained in the video.
    The video didn't make clear the difference in the amount of games the league plays. They just said he did it in less games than Spanoulis, which is true. What they left out is the regular season was 10 games long during almost all of the career of Spanoulis, while it is 34 games long during almost all of the career of James. So if they did not extend the regular season, it would have taken James many more years to come near the record, no matter what his average was, because he never would have made it to enough games played to break the record. Because when the regular season was 10 games long (Spanoulis era), you couldn't play more games unless your team advanced and James played on plenty of teams that weren't any good and would not have advanced.
    James is guaranteed at least 34 games every season now. So basically, if the regular season had not been extended, the chance that James would have ever broken this scoring record was virtually 0%. It was only broken because they changed the league's format and games played rules. The video really should have specified that. Since the league changed the regular season from 10 games to 34 games, the truth is no one in Europe really cares about the EuroLeague records anymore, as they are all being broken, just because of the change in games played. The video made it seem like this record was a big deal, but in reality, no one cares, and the EuroLeague records have lost all meaning because of that change to the number of games played.

    • @lijah420
      @lijah420 2 місяці тому +9

      damn 10mgames is crazy

    • @rahjaejohnson
      @rahjaejohnson 2 місяці тому +9

      W context

    • @rahjaejohnson
      @rahjaejohnson 2 місяці тому +1

      Kinda similar with the nfl adding a 17th game

    • @benocarroll7683
      @benocarroll7683 2 місяці тому +7

      This guy always talks about Euroleague explains nothing just to bring people in it comparing to NBA masking he doesn’t watch any of it, minutes are wasted of your life watching him

    • @KemalArdilGulez
      @KemalArdilGulez 16 днів тому

      Euroleague regular season going from 10 games to 34 doesn't change a damn thing. Mike James still played way fewer *GAMES* to break the record. Unless Euroleague extended from 10 minute quarters to 34 minute quarters, Mike James' record is very much genuine.

  • @SliteKonto
    @SliteKonto 2 місяці тому +77

    If he was so good as you’re riding for him, he would’ve been more efficient in the NBA. Not to mention fred is better defensively which why he’s still here. I’m all for having your opinion but let’s relax on the he’d do a b and c when he got the opportunity multiple times and didn’t do it.

    • @joshualucky8001
      @joshualucky8001 2 місяці тому +8

      So much you can do when you get only 19 minutes per game. And he averaged 9 in that season. Bruv please. The NBA is an entertainment league more similar to reality TV shows than it is to a sport league

    • @SliteKonto
      @SliteKonto 2 місяці тому +18

      @@joshualucky8001 his per 36 would be 17 points. Which is average, nothing special. the reality tv stuff, whatever makes you comfortable man

    • @Tarquin2718
      @Tarquin2718 2 місяці тому +8

      @@SliteKonto Exactly. I am happy he is king in EU but he is nothing in US. Also If Luka or Jokic or Antetokounmpo would return to EU they would not even know who this Mike is and nobody would ever speak of him again haha

    • @coldwell830
      @coldwell830 2 місяці тому

      Ameeeeeeeeeeen

    • @coldwell830
      @coldwell830 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@joshualucky8001 I have no idea what you was sipping on at the time you wrote this comment, but you need to get tested for drugs usage immediately.

  • @sammith02
    @sammith02 2 місяці тому +13

    Calling Curry one dimensional is kinda funny, seeing that all this guy can do is score. Doesn’t draw the defense’s attention like Steph and could never move off the ball like Steph. Curry’s passing is a little underrated as well as his ability to finish at the rim. “Better than Curry” stawp it 🙄

  • @hayesc0
    @hayesc0 2 місяці тому +40

    You are overeating Mike James. 😂

    • @xxxalphasigmaxxx
      @xxxalphasigmaxxx 2 місяці тому +1

      Micheal James like Micheal Jordan and LeBron James

  • @daarkengeist
    @daarkengeist 2 місяці тому +14

    "he can't defend and isn't efficient but he's better than most of the NBA"
    Ok sure.

  • @unrulyelchapo5338
    @unrulyelchapo5338 2 місяці тому +157

    Huh better then curry wtf are u talking about

    • @i_fuze_hostages6
      @i_fuze_hostages6 2 місяці тому +6

      Mike James 😂

    • @800mEric
      @800mEric 2 місяці тому +7

      bro is cocaine lol

    • @ayeitzwoolz1968
      @ayeitzwoolz1968 2 місяці тому +25

      He got something against the NBA for sure cause that gotta be the worst take I've ever heard

    • @nathanielperryii296
      @nathanielperryii296 2 місяці тому +7

      I'm guessing y'all missed the whole point on why he said that

    • @petermuchiri6631
      @petermuchiri6631 2 місяці тому

      You need to expand your understanding capacity

  • @jackslammer
    @jackslammer 2 місяці тому +37

    To answer your final question... My answer is no, I would not go back to the NBA.
    When you cross the age of 30, you start to gain better perspective on life, and start to see things for what they are and not what you want them to be.
    If I went to the NBA and was treated like I was expendable, but I had an opportunity in Europe to cement a legacy, while earning MORE MONEY than I would in the NBA. I'm staying in Europe.

    • @Tarquin2718
      @Tarquin2718 2 місяці тому +1

      It is very difficult to earn more in EU. But you are right that if you make 1m in EU and you like it here, I would also not go to the US, not for 10m 🙂
      Unless you feel you have something to prove. but that is where you're 30 years age comes in.

    • @Kill_Bill_007
      @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +10

      @@Tarquin2718All of the good EuroLeague players that are veterans make way more money playing in Europe than they could playing in the NBA, especially in the cases of the best EuroLeague players.

    • @outforthecount7027
      @outforthecount7027 2 місяці тому

      your a nobody though

    • @outforthecount7027
      @outforthecount7027 2 місяці тому +1

      you cant make it in eithe rleague . what am i missing here? are you mike james?

    • @bandito241
      @bandito241 2 місяці тому

      ⁠point
      @@outforthecount7027

  • @SunsMD
    @SunsMD 10 днів тому +4

    I watched Mike James progressively lose his spot in the rotation during a Suns' tanking season. He was a chucker. He dominated the ball, took bad shots, and didn't play defense. His style of play did not help young players improve, and he certainly wasn't a leader. That team was a dumpster fire, and he still got himself waived.

  • @adam_in_the_world
    @adam_in_the_world 2 місяці тому +200

    awakenbeerus predicted this

  • @lazywallstreetnews7234
    @lazywallstreetnews7234 2 місяці тому +30

    From the tape, his playing style can best be described as ‘What if LiAngelo Ball hadn’t tried to steal from that store in China and developed properly?’

  • @dontaviusharvey5236
    @dontaviusharvey5236 17 днів тому +5

    My guy said he’s an undersized, un-athletic guard… proceeds to show Mike James insane athleticism and bounce

  • @CHANNEL.MAC777
    @CHANNEL.MAC777 2 місяці тому +90

    Glazing Euroleague as usual

    • @alessandrodeboni8994
      @alessandrodeboni8994 2 місяці тому +13

      stop crying and just admit how good euroleague is

    • @Big01045
      @Big01045 2 місяці тому +36

      @@alessandrodeboni8994 there great just not as good as the players in the NBA

    • @rigobertoitachijohnson
      @rigobertoitachijohnson 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Big01045they're great team players*
      the level of their isolation offense compared to American basketball is like comparing plumbers and athletes, its just not a fair comparison...
      I watch 1v1s of American streetballers (not even professionals) and it's just a night and day difference compared to other countries that play streetball...
      For this reason I'm stealing their moves XD. Players that I took note of are :
      Qel, Nas, Jleww, Uncle Skoob, Moon, etc. (I forgot the guy who's left-handed and can do fadeaways with either foot, and can also shoot)
      None of those dudes i mentioned went pro (or that I know of)

    • @thehazardousgamerjr3119
      @thehazardousgamerjr3119 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Big01045the current best players in the nba are from the euro league in u notice ☠️

    • @ShrimpsonH
      @ShrimpsonH 2 місяці тому +11

      @@alessandrodeboni8994yeah is so good that an American who wasn’t good enough for an NBA roster can set the all time scoring record in less than 300 games 😭😭🤣🤣

  • @BigTeletubby
    @BigTeletubby 2 місяці тому +29

    He’s a 6’1” ball dominant guard who relies on making tough shots against less athletic defenders in Euro that’s really it

    • @Mr3Run4Fun
      @Mr3Run4Fun 2 місяці тому +7

      erm Jalen brunson?

    • @chefboyrgee4142
      @chefboyrgee4142 Місяць тому +2

      @@Mr3Run4Funyou must not watch basketball

    • @Mr3Run4Fun
      @Mr3Run4Fun Місяць тому +1

      @@chefboyrgee4142 I'd strongly advise you to either read what I said carefully or delete your comment.

    • @Axzide
      @Axzide 25 днів тому +3

      @@Mr3Run4Fun jalen brunson can make those shots against nba comp l;ol

    • @Mr3Run4Fun
      @Mr3Run4Fun 25 днів тому

      @@Axzide That's exactly what I'm saying.

  • @gabrielcleyet7052
    @gabrielcleyet7052 2 місяці тому +31

    IT just got a 10 day contract with the suns. I guess the miracle finally came

  • @jefejefe1751
    @jefejefe1751 2 місяці тому +5

    I was actually comparing his game to Van Vleet's. Then I saw it in the video good stuff

  • @oocinom
    @oocinom 2 місяці тому +5

    Mike James’s game is perfect for the Euroleague just like Jimmer Fredette in China.

  • @Bkhouma
    @Bkhouma 2 місяці тому +8

    This is how I find out Mike James went to my highschool😂

  • @vernonherb
    @vernonherb 2 місяці тому

    Great video 📹 bro i think ima keep up with mike james

  • @MaxWilliamsFiles
    @MaxWilliamsFiles 2 місяці тому

    such a great video bro

  • @sharpshooter0174
    @sharpshooter0174 2 місяці тому +6

    He just a scorer, not a complete player

  • @BBallRambles
    @BBallRambles 2 місяці тому +3

    Great to see you uploading! I am a Suns fan so I saw him play back with that team. The offensive system was bad, the coaching staff was allergic to in-game adjustments, the GM wanted to tank, the players were mostly non-NBA caliber and were looking to get-theirs, and it's tough to get any sort of rhythm going in such brief opportunity. It was a shame to see him get waived.
    If he wanted to stick it out in the US, I am certain he would have been a good player.

    • @michaellockhart6632
      @michaellockhart6632 2 місяці тому +1

      I would have kept MJ over Isaiah Cannon. I remember that season too and I'm not sure as to exactly why I remember it.
      I believe that I was just following Booker.

  • @svenlechtenberg8119
    @svenlechtenberg8119 2 місяці тому +4

    Undersized and unathletic shouldn’t produce those kinds of dunks 😶

  • @kehubbard4386
    @kehubbard4386 18 днів тому

    Compelling Argument. Great Segment!!

  • @richardhsuh
    @richardhsuh 2 місяці тому +9

    Net fan favorite Mike Jamessssssssssss

  • @SliteKonto
    @SliteKonto 2 місяці тому +7

    I’m still in shock how outrageous and bias this video is

  • @LeeeWai
    @LeeeWai 2 місяці тому +3

    Luka was teenager in Euro League ( he was under 18 when played in EU ) :) don't compare Luka as a kid to grown up man.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Місяць тому

      Luka was years ahead in development, at that agr he was like 22 yearsild as player

  • @pablobenito4635
    @pablobenito4635 11 днів тому

    i remember wathing him at Baskonia when i was a kid, i loved how he danked and the speed he played with. So happy for him now that he got his flowers

  • @weball4l
    @weball4l 2 місяці тому +5

    please do a video on micic hes been playing amazing on the hornets

  • @52cm
    @52cm 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember him a couple years ago this guy was a BALLER!

  • @dylanseiler2694
    @dylanseiler2694 2 місяці тому +2

    I laughed at all your takes 😂

  • @pierovittori1076
    @pierovittori1076 2 місяці тому

    I personally don't like mike james' play style but i liked this video, very well made.
    I'd pick Parker over him any day of the week, but different times, different teams and even more different basketball

  • @offthegrident
    @offthegrident 24 дні тому +2

    I can show u 10 mins of kyrie fade aways from the post, mike james is nice but his skill set is not close😂

  • @akken2112
    @akken2112 24 дні тому +1

    When asked so far, who is the best player he's played against, Victor Wembanyama named "Mike James".

  • @phillycezaarr9963
    @phillycezaarr9963 2 місяці тому +1

    Also Luka’s rookie year in NBA he averaged 21 a game which isn’t as big a jump as the 32 currently.

  • @JohnDoe113
    @JohnDoe113 28 днів тому +2

    @1:14 that was real lame to put Kemba's picture there. He blew his knee out and was no longer in the NBA because of injuries. So putting his picture there was a horrible example.

  • @ncm2738
    @ncm2738 4 дні тому

    Oh dear god. Mike James averaged 21 minutes a game in 32 games with the phx suns in his rookie year, that year he averaged 10.2 ppg 3.8 apg, 2.8 reb, and 1.5 tov, pretty solid numbers... until we get to his shooting splits, 38.8% on 9.8 fga, 26.8% on 3 3pa, and 76.2% on 2.6 fta. Usually rookies don't shoot very well so their FT% is usually a better indicator for their shooting ability. 76.2% isn't horrible but not outstanding either.
    In his second year he played just 4 games with the pels so nothing to really see there.
    In his third and FINAL year he played 18.2 mpg in 13 games with the bkn nets. He averaged 37% on 7.1 fga and 35.5% on 2.4 3pa, which isn't bad from 3 but horrendous from the field. Doesn't help that he averaged damn near the same amount of points as field goal attempts with 7.7ppg on 7.1 fga. Not to mention his plus minus was always a negative in all 3 seasons.
    Truth is, if he was really as good as this video and he says he is, then he would've been on a NBA roster in 2024. To compare him to Curry or even a good NBA roleplayer as of right now is blasphemy.

  • @mugensharp
    @mugensharp 2 місяці тому

    I definitely see some of the similarities between james and vanfleet. I would even go as far as to say james is a better pure athlete. I think the thing for me though is that fred does a lot of those sneaky little things on defense that make him a more reliable asset when he is at his best, and like you where saying james has a much more iso heavy game and fred is better at operating off ball efficiently. I dont see myself in almost any situation taking a james over vanfleet though. I think another interesting topic would be asking what a prime fred would look like in the euro league. I'm not so sure he would end up being the all time scoring leader, but because of his tool set there is a chance he would have more team success at the highest level. idk it is what it is, good vid.

  • @LmMighty14
    @LmMighty14 2 місяці тому +11

    How are you comparing lebron’s record to Mike James record? Mike James is the all time leading scorer with over 4,000 points. Wilt Chamberlain scored that much in ONE season

    • @Azem2005
      @Azem2005 2 місяці тому

      compare nba players who have 90 games in a season and EL players who have 34 min and max 41 games, that's a big difference, as the second game in the nba lasts longer than the third, in the nba defenses only start playing after the playoffs and in the EL it is from 1 to 34 matches very important and in every match you have one player who is glued to you and does what he wants, it is not for comparison el and nba.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Місяць тому +1

      NBA has inflated numbers

    • @jared9669
      @jared9669 Місяць тому +1

      @@innosanto most euroleague players never make an impact in the NBA. All they have are washed NBA players as their best talent. Doesnt matter how many games in a season to average 16 PPG is not very good.

  • @jeffreybixler1406
    @jeffreybixler1406 23 дні тому +1

    he says the euro league dude and the all time scoring but its no where near the amount of points that lebron had to reach to beat so how about instead of comparing the final score you compare the points on an equal playing field like making it to 4000 points and how long it took and the amount of games

  • @frankdux3605
    @frankdux3605 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s not impressive because the best of the best Euro players leave to the NBA after a few years. A comparison is a 5th year college senior who breaks an NCAA record. The best college players already left to the NBA after a year.

  • @SamuelSteiner-of2rb
    @SamuelSteiner-of2rb 2 місяці тому

    can you make a video on why its harder to score in the euroleague

  • @Miloh631
    @Miloh631 2 місяці тому

    Good video I agree

  • @JamesSKessler
    @JamesSKessler 5 днів тому +1

    This dude calling Steph 1 dimensional is a joke lmao.

  • @T1Earn
    @T1Earn 14 днів тому +1

    Living proof you can do literally everything right and not get what you want.

  • @psideTXdude03
    @psideTXdude03 2 місяці тому

    I remember when Mike was at Lamar University he came off the bench scored 52 and put a guy on a poster, me and my homie lost our shit on that dunk

  • @Kobre21
    @Kobre21 2 місяці тому

    i have a interesting theory that maybe just some players playing style is more suited for europe basketball and some players just can play better in the nba bcs luka was great in the euro mvp 32 ppg but he averaged less until recently he needed to get used to do style of play plus he is way taller and better suited for the nba bcs u can get past in the euroleague for being short and in nba its no longer really possible if u dont have a crazy wingspan and if u dont have crazy defense plus the euroleague is more of an defensive league and nba more offense concentrated league

  • @MeRacko
    @MeRacko 2 місяці тому +3

    Luka was 17

  • @BasedDawgz
    @BasedDawgz 6 днів тому

    I’m down to watch these games, just gotta know when where and how to tap in

    • @DKM_Sports
      @DKM_Sports  6 днів тому

      Join my room on playback
      www.playback.tv/dkm
      And you can use code "DKM15" to get 15% off EuroLeague pass here www.euroleague.tv/signup?

  • @user-rl6td8ee1o
    @user-rl6td8ee1o 2 місяці тому +2

    Mike James is a good player, but he has never won a Euroleague tiltle so u can't call him a GOAT

  • @klipklapklop3359
    @klipklapklop3359 2 місяці тому +3

    Yea he's the all time leading scorer because all the good ones went to the NBA 😂

  • @streetsomnia
    @streetsomnia Місяць тому

    Can't believe every NBA team passed on Mike James even after of proving he could be a perfect backup PG.

  • @splasherrrr
    @splasherrrr Місяць тому

    how much would doncic avg in euroleague 25ppg?

  • @chuchuchuchia
    @chuchuchuchia 3 дні тому

    Is this Mike James youtube channel

  • @kylekyleswae7352
    @kylekyleswae7352 2 дні тому +1

    You didn’t mention him being better than Kyrie tho 😂😈

  • @FinessedJones
    @FinessedJones День тому

    comparing him to Fred who shot 38% from 3 while he shot 28% is laughable

  • @more2lifeworldwide921
    @more2lifeworldwide921 2 місяці тому +1

    Bro averaged 16.5 over 258 games, if Bron played in this league he'd average 35. KD would average 38

  • @thawkereynolds
    @thawkereynolds 2 місяці тому

    To answer your question about whether or not, he should still try to get to the NBA versus staying in Monaco. I need to know how much you make in the euro league?

  • @Vdubatron
    @Vdubatron 4 дні тому

    259 games!!!! That's like 3 seasons in the NBA. wow. kind of way less impressive actually.

  • @datrendsetta
    @datrendsetta 2 місяці тому

    Based on this video, the basic eye test alone tells me why he didn’t have a great NBA career. It’s hard to put into words, but it appears like the game is hard for him, like the opposite of the spectrum of someone like KD for example. To me that’s a sign that he is playing at his highest level and would struggle against better defenders and defensive teams.

  • @tahriisaedanse
    @tahriisaedanse 2 місяці тому +1

    Nikos Galis is the one and only undoubtable GOAT of the euroleague

  • @Evelynfunnyvideo
    @Evelynfunnyvideo Місяць тому

    Next story about justine browlee the legend of philippines basketball

  • @EnjoiTanner
    @EnjoiTanner 2 місяці тому +3

    DKM out here cooking

  • @user-nh1yb9mk7y
    @user-nh1yb9mk7y 2 місяці тому +11

    He is perceived as Demar Derozan of Euroleague.

    • @Kill_Bill_007
      @Kill_Bill_007 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, that's pretty much accurate. And basically the same in terms of all time standings of a league GOAT ranking.

  • @Xcoming2
    @Xcoming2 23 дні тому

    all that traveling back and forth would have stressed me out.

  • @jackdonith
    @jackdonith День тому

    Small guards that aren't great defenders really have to impress with their stats in the few games they get in NBA. Mike James simply didn't. Also some players gamestyle are better for Europe than NBA and vice versa. Btw it's interesting he couldn't get a place in a team with Isaiah Canaan but in the Euroleague Canaan is just a good player while Mike James is the superstar.

  • @pantsprince
    @pantsprince 6 днів тому

    fun fact: jordan poole has more career points in the nba than mike james does in the euroleague

  • @shako5136
    @shako5136 Місяць тому

    "A master of everything is a master of none"

  • @BigPlasticPlant
    @BigPlasticPlant 2 місяці тому

    2:20 that’s not a 3rd of the time 😂, it’s over two 3rds of the time.

  • @somebody9112
    @somebody9112 23 дні тому

    lost me with the american math when 27% fewer becomes a third total.

  • @mcroboto
    @mcroboto 2 місяці тому

    So, you're saying he's Deron Williams. The utah jazz former pg in the early 2010's

    • @bandito241
      @bandito241 2 місяці тому +1

      Deron Williams was an all star. Mike James was never close to his talents

  • @PygmaApril
    @PygmaApril 2 місяці тому +11

    The reason you don't see many people having 4.400 career Euroleague points, is because all the great scorers already declared and went to the NBA. Mike James was simply not good enough for the NBA, no other way around it. He couldn't defend a cone, his three wasn't falling and NBA defenders were too big/long/strong and bullied him. I literally watched every single one of his games as a Net.

    • @terqia6438
      @terqia6438 Місяць тому +1

      I honestly think you basketball fans come up with every excuse in the book for who don't make it NBA. Bro, even if Mike was waved, he was clearly NBA level. Especially with the caliber of mediocre (below average to average) players who are currently in the NBA today. There are many NBA caliber talents who haven't been accepted into the NBA simply because they weren't given the opportunity.
      Plus, even if you consider Mike James not that athletic & D3 league level. The fact that he managed to have success in the NBA for his short stint is amazing.

    • @PygmaApril
      @PygmaApril Місяць тому +2

      @@terqia6438 He has NBA-level talent. But he is only an offensive minded player, with no defensive tools and unable to score efficiently against NBA-level defenders. Most mediocre/below average players are on rookie deals, and will not get another contract. Mike is too old for that, so it's nearly impossible for him to have a career in the NBA right now. All those "below average dudes" are based on potential. We have seen the best version of Mike, and it is not good enough.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Місяць тому

      It can also be they played in better euroleague teams.

    • @nowdoyouunderstandpain6066
      @nowdoyouunderstandpain6066 14 днів тому

      @@terqia6438he’d be playing if he was good simple 😂

    • @ncm2738
      @ncm2738 4 дні тому

      @@terqia6438 NBA level talent and being NBA ready are 2 very different things.

  • @potawatomi09
    @potawatomi09 5 годин тому

    Euro league is basically Dr. Thunder NBA is Dr. Pepper 😂

  • @willcarlton3906
    @willcarlton3906 2 місяці тому

    Great video DKM! You spent way too long making Ball Bros videos. More stuff like this.

    • @DKM_Sports
      @DKM_Sports  2 місяці тому +1

      More to come!

    • @willcarlton3906
      @willcarlton3906 2 місяці тому

      @@DKM_SportsI watched the entire thing. These in depth videos really flex your knowledge of the game 🏀. Good chit!

    • @Tarquin2718
      @Tarquin2718 2 місяці тому

      You can't take this seriously? If you know anything about stats you know this is cherry Picking combined with lies at Trump level 🙂

  • @versaceboi4762
    @versaceboi4762 2 місяці тому

    Topped watching this the moment he made that steph comment. I just know there's nothing else he has to say worth paying attention to

  • @dark3rthanshadows
    @dark3rthanshadows 2 місяці тому

    14:43 Finally, someone says that some players (those that make big internationally) just don't have the playstyle for the NBA or to be bench players on the NBA. In order for them to be effective, you need a specific team and a specific time to use them. This can be a problem for multiple teams, which is why they end up out of the rotation. Then, to make it worse, totally lacks defense...a BIG no no. Undersized,uneficient,overly iso-scoring+ no defense guard .

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Місяць тому

      The opposite is also true. Giannis was the worst player in greek national tram for multiple years when he was nba star.

    • @Axzide
      @Axzide 25 днів тому

      @@innosanto cap

  • @zdacoz5499
    @zdacoz5499 24 дні тому

    Undersized: Yes Unathletic: No

  • @Unorthodox_kidd
    @Unorthodox_kidd 2 місяці тому

    6:27 was that a double dribble?

  • @Official_Schmelly
    @Official_Schmelly 24 дні тому

    “He is an undersized, unathletic guard” proceeds to show him doing an eastbay and baptizing someone off a lob

  • @Another30
    @Another30 Місяць тому

    Vanvleet is also a defender. That's the difference

  • @jithias
    @jithias 28 днів тому

    Bro just said Mike James is undersized and unathletic while showing us clips of him doing self-alley oop dunks in game. Im dead lmao

  • @strelov1520
    @strelov1520 7 днів тому

    When you dedicate all your life to basketball and especially if you are native american, all those benefits which he has in Monaco mean nothing in comparison to be able to play in the best league in the world

  • @drwd4941
    @drwd4941 4 дні тому

    mike james is closer to me who never play pro basketball than he is to stephen curry, lets be real

  • @adnaanlambe8575
    @adnaanlambe8575 25 днів тому

    Depends on the salary if its the same amount of salary, stay in Euro. There is nothing in NBA anymore beside, one superstar per team mentality.

  • @omarwanace23_45
    @omarwanace23_45 2 місяці тому

    1:09 Even tho he's 1000000% right, as they say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

  • @xamesandroid
    @xamesandroid 2 місяці тому

    What if Kevin Durant ask him to be in Phoenix again?.. 🤔🤔🤔

  • @mktmn-bk5qf
    @mktmn-bk5qf 19 днів тому +1

    Does that mean he worse than jeremy lin like both of them undraft and jeremy lin drop 28 on kobe i think

  • @pssct
    @pssct 26 днів тому

    I still think that he could've been nice leader of 2nd unit in the nba

  • @datboyetv
    @datboyetv 2 місяці тому +1

    Can't we be serious about something yes bron had pass Kareem in scoring but there need to be a * nxt to it cause bron played since 18 and never went to college...thats yrs missed out for Kareem not to mention it will be hard for anyone to break this record now that u are forced to spend a yr in college

    • @hoodie_bron
      @hoodie_bron 2 місяці тому +2

      Nope not really a need for a asterisk at all. Those are all excuses. He literally still managed to do it in less games played

    • @troymiller1426
      @troymiller1426 2 місяці тому +1

      If you take all of LeBrons 3s away he would still have more points than Kareem.

  • @clickbait1981
    @clickbait1981 2 місяці тому

    @ chill bro😂

  • @ice-coldspear9193
    @ice-coldspear9193 2 місяці тому

    But also, Wilt scored about the same amount of points in one season. Curry will score about 4400 points in 2 seasons. And also he's been playing in the euroleague for 10 yrs, he will need to play for 90 more years to beat the NBA points record. Make a video when he does.

  • @edc.3761
    @edc.3761 Місяць тому

    It's silly comparing the level of play in EuroLeague to the NBA. Even the best European players are playing in the NBA.