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I am a huge fan of Steel Ball Run and definitely don't agree with some of your takes on the series, but I can respect that your being honest about how you feel about it and not spouting bs to please the sbr loving Viewers. I can definitely see why it's not for everyone. Good video.
Thanks. Even though parts of the video did seem negative, SBR is my 3rd favorite part honestly. Cause at least it's tone and structure are consistent throughout the story. I like that.
@@adamshadow9881 I respect you for spitting your own opinions while being very reasonable. SBR isn’t my top 1 either because of my personal bias. You have explained the aspects that you dislike (and they are very reasonable), and also aspects you love. Haven’t seen such a rational video for a long while!
I actually enjoyed the beginning of the series. It was nice that stands didn't show up for a while and it felt refreshing to me that it was just a horse race in the beginning and more layers were added to it as I read.
This. As someone completely new to jojos and more a fan of traditional storytelling rather than mindless action, i greatly appreciated the worldbuilding and character interactions in the first 30 chapters.
My biggest issue was the fact that gyro was so good at horse riding, like we don't see any reason why he should be as good as he is, I get in the final dashes that he generally uses the spin to his advantage, but compared to the rest of the racers, many of whom are have spent their whole lives horse racing, it feels weird. Plus how Johnny and Gyro were able to do so well despite running about the place constantly due to the corpse parts.
I loved the beginning of the part. I like that they focus on establishing the characters verses getting into stand fights immediately, the beginning fights were ok but i think it was worth trading off the cool stand stuff while they established the relationship between Gyro and Johnny. I like that the two of them aren't friends or even really allies at the start, and that Johnny has to use his knowledge of racing to earn Gyro's respect by forcing Gyro to pay attention to him. And the spin was great, it made the buildup to Tusk super cool because johnny basically does nothing fight wise for the entire start and its really refreshing to see a jojo who isnt broken from the start of the story. I thought the race was decently interesting and i like that Johnny has a different motivation than winning the race, the fact that he doesn't end up winning is also great, i think it would have been tacky. And i appreciate the slow pace they were going for at the start. Also I agreed about the catch the rainbow arc that fight was goated. Super underrated arc, and i do think it's better than the Ringo fight
Having Johnny be an asshole does a good job for setting a precedent in the new universe when you see Josuke do some crazy shit in part 8 the same way it does with Jonathan having us understand why Jotaro has a kindness in him despite being an asshole most of the time. Great video with better editing than most bigger channels
All the most important characters feel like real people with their constant reassessing of a situation as they grow and adapt to their rapidly changing circumstances. All this while dealing with tricky thematic subject matter in a wild, yet easygoing escalation and incredible conclusion. As Johnny says at the end, this was a story of him learning to walk. Much like Stone Ocean, its crazy how much thematic exposition was going on right from the outset and was not even noticing because the dialogue is so natural. Better than Stone Ocean, of course, though that Part did a solid job with F.F. It respects the reader's intelligence and that's why it's respected so much. We learn about why Gyro lied to Johnny at the beginning about how the spin could help him walk without the plot simply stopping to explain. He knew it was not his place to try to determine what side of the net the tennis ball would fall on with Johnny, though his compassionate nature settled on how he could provide the data for Johnny to arrive at the answer of his own accord. "Learning to walk," indeed. What a beautiful story.
I gave you the sub solely you spoke for yourself with the Ringo arc. I love it, sure, it’s good, and it’s very very entertaining. But is it THAT high as stand out in SBR for THE MOST iconic fight? It doesn’t, not really. It’s a really cool fight, explained the concept of dark determination but uh, that’s kinda it. The ringo fight wasn’t suppose to be “one of the best”, but serve as an intro to the crazier fights that would happen later on. Which, it served its purpose for perfectly dragged my interest into it. Personally, I do consider Sugar Mountain arc has more drama than Ringo arc. You don’t need dramatic fighting sequences to make an arc great. Edit: Your fav from SBR is dino Diego and Lucy, you are my fav youtuber now. Edit 2: We have the same opinion on sugar mountain arc!! Edit 3: Absolute fax on Lucy being best girl in JJBA. She’s my top 3 fav for same reason as yours (and Diego is no.2, Johnny is no.1 simply cuz I have so many traumas and stories share in common with him, and some certain thing happened in cough cough part 8 or whatever)
And totally agree with the Catch the Rainbow arc, I would say that’s when SBR really started to figure out where it wanted to go and hit its stride and actually got me really invested in the mystery of the corpse, Valentine, and figure out more about Johnny & Gyro (which are perfect deuteragonsts imo)
I think there’s somethings when it being animated will definitely be better like some fights you just can’t comprehend like king krimson powers and such sbr has a lot of fights like this i hope it gets animated.
what i like about the repetitiveness in dialogue of jojo is mainly how it gets acted out in the jp version of the anime all hammy, mostly. that's really it for me.
in our holy book bhagwad puran its said that sometimes even though your intention is correct right but still you don't get success because sometimes the main reason can be that your path to achieve that goal can be wrong You don't walk upon a venomous snake to get a immortal drink your path should be correct too. Valentine is wrong when he chooses wrong path to achieve his goal.
thank you for not being afraid to criticize this overrated ass series. the part 7 glazing is out of control, especially the ringo fight 😭🙏 I agree that it got a lot better around the catch the rainbow arc, but like man part 7 has a lot of problems that it seems like most people refuse to acknowledge
I felt the same way when I started SBR. The opening couple of chapters just did not grab me at all. It only started to pick up after a while after that and even then I still wouldn't say it's my favorite part or anything. Also LOL at the ending.
Strangely I’m the complete opposite, the beginning portion of Steel Ball Run did an excellent job of pulling me in. I love the announcers and the elements of the race, and I felt kind of disappointed when the story started to focus less on it.
I fall somewhere in the middle. The first chapter got me hooked and cooked. I loved the True Man's World ,The Sugar Mountain Land Arc (specifically, 11 men),and Catch The Rainbow arc.
Araki had done each of his parts in like a month or fifty day time frame, and so trying to cram 96 chapters of straight horse racing for 6 months would have sucked.
I would argue SBR is overhyped, it’s a great part and I think it has the best character work and design but people make it seem like it’s the only part that matters in JoJo’s like it’s a biblical text, it’s a great part but I would say it’s on par with JoJolion, Stone Ocean & Vento Aureo
@@adamshadow9881ringo just sucks ass bro. It's like they try so hard to make us feel "wow this is such a great arc, such great antagonist, so many good quotes." But in reality? It ain't shit. His backstory was starting to get interesting but he just somehow concludes it by saying "yeah I was pathetic but somehow I'm a badass now." Like Wtf was that?! I felt nothing when he died. And his stand ability is basically a diet version of king crimson
What you said about jjk is true for me. I watched the anime when it first came out and I fell asleep honestly. I came back again a year later and struggle to connect to a character. I to this day will never get the hype over jjk
"The ringo Road Again fight is okay at best" finally someone with an opinion, I swear to god, they fanboys for part 7 ruined my experience with the manga, with all the unnecesary praise and hype. The ringo fight was ok, but people treat it like the best fight vs a minor villain ever just because ringo had a little more of depth as a character and a backstory, which is not something exclusive to this fight, araki has done that before and after. the fight overall was better than average, but ok at the end of the day. Also, I couldn't care less about johnny. Gyro, Diego and Valentine are the reasons why I like part 7 overall.
FAX Edit: except Johnny part, man. I can totally get why though, since every character in SBR shines so bright, and Johnny comparing to them aren’t that “interesting” or “likable”.
I agree with Ringo Roadagain. When I heard people praised the arc after finishing Part 7 for the second time, I was genuinely confused whenever people mentioned Ringo, because I have no idea who they were talking about until I read it the third time.
Don’t agree with you at all for the beginning the intro of gyro was cool the first phase of the race was amazing. When reading I was here the announcer in my head and scrolling on my computer I saw that race and how they were riding its was exiting
I enjoy the introduction of characters. Gyro included. I guess just wasn't used the longer format for chapters in Jojo by this point. So when things happen they take twice as long. And by extension, the race as well. Which I was losing interest in the more I read.
i agree the beginning is weak but your criticism of the repetitive nature of the announcers dialogue was strange to me. idk if youve ever watched footage of horse racing but they're updating you every second, namedropping nonstop. Its almost auction-like.
The hype has been ah uge tur n-off for me honeslty. I already don't li ke continuity reboots and the removal of elements like vampires and pillar men as well as lack of any continuity wuth rpevious parts I'm not findign any motivation to take any interest in this part.
I think his stand was fun and I like the end of the fight but yeah he's not the best minor antagonist in sbr, that goes to wekapipo or Diego in the scary monsters arc
4 mins into the video and the guy compares JJK (a shonen) with SBR (a seinen) in terms of action, saying SBR lacks action, that's all I needed to know, I'm gonna save myself the other 16 mins, don't wanna find out if he also compares it to MHA too lol
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I am a huge fan of Steel Ball Run and definitely don't agree with some of your takes on the series, but I can respect that your being honest about how you feel about it and not spouting bs to please the sbr loving Viewers. I can definitely see why it's not for everyone. Good video.
Thanks. Even though parts of the video did seem negative, SBR is my 3rd favorite part honestly. Cause at least it's tone and structure are consistent throughout the story. I like that.
@@adamshadow9881 I respect you for spitting your own opinions while being very reasonable. SBR isn’t my top 1 either because of my personal bias. You have explained the aspects that you dislike (and they are very reasonable), and also aspects you love. Haven’t seen such a rational video for a long while!
I actually enjoyed the beginning of the series. It was nice that stands didn't show up for a while and it felt refreshing to me that it was just a horse race in the beginning and more layers were added to it as I read.
This. As someone completely new to jojos and more a fan of traditional storytelling rather than mindless action, i greatly appreciated the worldbuilding and character interactions in the first 30 chapters.
My biggest issue was the fact that gyro was so good at horse riding, like we don't see any reason why he should be as good as he is, I get in the final dashes that he generally uses the spin to his advantage, but compared to the rest of the racers, many of whom are have spent their whole lives horse racing, it feels weird. Plus how Johnny and Gyro were able to do so well despite running about the place constantly due to the corpse parts.
I loved the beginning of the part. I like that they focus on establishing the characters verses getting into stand fights immediately, the beginning fights were ok but i think it was worth trading off the cool stand stuff while they established the relationship between Gyro and Johnny. I like that the two of them aren't friends or even really allies at the start, and that Johnny has to use his knowledge of racing to earn Gyro's respect by forcing Gyro to pay attention to him. And the spin was great, it made the buildup to Tusk super cool because johnny basically does nothing fight wise for the entire start and its really refreshing to see a jojo who isnt broken from the start of the story. I thought the race was decently interesting and i like that Johnny has a different motivation than winning the race, the fact that he doesn't end up winning is also great, i think it would have been tacky. And i appreciate the slow pace they were going for at the start.
Also I agreed about the catch the rainbow arc that fight was goated. Super underrated arc, and i do think it's better than the Ringo fight
Having Johnny be an asshole does a good job for setting a precedent in the new universe when you see Josuke do some crazy shit in part 8 the same way it does with Jonathan having us understand why Jotaro has a kindness in him despite being an asshole most of the time. Great video with better editing than most bigger channels
All the most important characters feel like real people with their constant reassessing of a situation as they grow and adapt to their rapidly changing circumstances. All this while dealing with tricky thematic subject matter in a wild, yet easygoing escalation and incredible conclusion.
As Johnny says at the end, this was a story of him learning to walk. Much like Stone Ocean, its crazy how much thematic exposition was going on right from the outset and was not even noticing because the dialogue is so natural. Better than Stone Ocean, of course, though that Part did a solid job with F.F.
It respects the reader's intelligence and that's why it's respected so much. We learn about why Gyro lied to Johnny at the beginning about how the spin could help him walk without the plot simply stopping to explain. He knew it was not his place to try to determine what side of the net the tennis ball would fall on with Johnny, though his compassionate nature settled on how he could provide the data for Johnny to arrive at the answer of his own accord. "Learning to walk," indeed.
What a beautiful story.
I gave you the sub solely you spoke for yourself with the Ringo arc. I love it, sure, it’s good, and it’s very very entertaining. But is it THAT high as stand out in SBR for THE MOST iconic fight?
It doesn’t, not really. It’s a really cool fight, explained the concept of dark determination but uh, that’s kinda it. The ringo fight wasn’t suppose to be “one of the best”, but serve as an intro to the crazier fights that would happen later on. Which, it served its purpose for perfectly dragged my interest into it.
Personally, I do consider Sugar Mountain arc has more drama than Ringo arc. You don’t need dramatic fighting sequences to make an arc great.
Edit: Your fav from SBR is dino Diego and Lucy, you are my fav youtuber now.
Edit 2: We have the same opinion on sugar mountain arc!!
Edit 3: Absolute fax on Lucy being best girl in JJBA. She’s my top 3 fav for same reason as yours (and Diego is no.2, Johnny is no.1 simply cuz I have so many traumas and stories share in common with him, and some certain thing happened in cough cough part 8 or whatever)
Even though johnny is my favorite character I'm surprised I agreed with as many of your points as I did. Great video
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You nearly had me in the first half, but you did indeed understand Steel Ball Run. It's a story of character development, the stands only enhance.
Very telling when one of my favorite fights is Sugar Mountain.
you're so underrated and your videos genuinely look professional
And totally agree with the Catch the Rainbow arc, I would say that’s when SBR really started to figure out where it wanted to go and hit its stride and actually got me really invested in the mystery of the corpse, Valentine, and figure out more about Johnny & Gyro (which are perfect deuteragonsts imo)
I think there’s somethings when it being animated will definitely be better like some fights you just can’t comprehend like king krimson powers and such sbr has a lot of fights like this i hope it gets animated.
Yeah. And pacing fights in manga is always more difficult than in an anime.
extremely underatted. if u keep up with this shit u may go far. just be consistent. new sub
You already know the Johnny Gyro shippers are gonna go crazy when the part 7 anime comes out.
Oh god no
That is my worst nightmare
Never let them cook
ew wtf
what i like about the repetitiveness in dialogue of jojo is mainly how it gets acted out in the jp version of the anime all hammy, mostly. that's really it for me.
in our holy book bhagwad puran its said that sometimes even though your intention is correct right but still you don't get success because sometimes the main reason can be that your path to achieve that goal can be wrong
You don't walk upon a venomous snake to get a immortal drink your path should be correct too.
Valentine is wrong when he chooses wrong path to achieve his goal.
Nice review!
thank you for not being afraid to criticize this overrated ass series. the part 7 glazing is out of control, especially the ringo fight 😭🙏 I agree that it got a lot better around the catch the rainbow arc, but like man part 7 has a lot of problems that it seems like most people refuse to acknowledge
I felt the same way when I started SBR. The opening couple of chapters just did not grab me at all. It only started to pick up after a while after that and even then I still wouldn't say it's my favorite part or anything. Also LOL at the ending.
True Man's World insist upon itself. LOL.
Strangely I’m the complete opposite, the beginning portion of Steel Ball Run did an excellent job of pulling me in. I love the announcers and the elements of the race, and I felt kind of disappointed when the story started to focus less on it.
I fall somewhere in the middle. The first chapter got me hooked and cooked. I loved the True Man's World ,The Sugar Mountain Land Arc (specifically, 11 men),and Catch The Rainbow arc.
radiant mentioned lets go
Lucy steel: bad luck magnet is so true
Disagree with some takes but can totally see why you felt that way, great review overall. Bonus points for recognizing Lucy being a badass.
Yeah, SBR starts at like Scary Monsters. The beginning is straight up bad
Araki had done each of his parts in like a month or fifty day time frame, and so trying to cram 96 chapters of straight horse racing for 6 months would have sucked.
Ringos fight was damn good bro
Blind girl of Sugar Mountain >>> Rewind Cowboy.
i thought ringo would’ve played a way bigger role honestly
Okay, the race is friggin hype and carries the early less plot involved bits for me.
Gyro is the first man with grills that I respect
Edit: also I just realized that Dino dio wears a saddle 😂😂😂
I would argue SBR is overhyped, it’s a great part and I think it has the best character work and design but people make it seem like it’s the only part that matters in JoJo’s like it’s a biblical text, it’s a great part but I would say it’s on par with JoJolion, Stone Ocean & Vento Aureo
The family guy bit 🤣
Man Lucy got it so rough but I was rooting for her throughout it all 💪💪
I'd recommend checking out Meti's videos on the part like with Ringo Roadagin
I have. Still don't agree. LOL.
@@adamshadow9881ringo just sucks ass bro.
It's like they try so hard to make us feel "wow this is such a great arc, such great antagonist, so many good quotes."
But in reality? It ain't shit.
His backstory was starting to get interesting but he just somehow concludes it by saying "yeah I was pathetic but somehow I'm a badass now." Like Wtf was that?!
I felt nothing when he died.
And his stand ability is basically a diet version of king crimson
@mhdzlazalkani3000 his stand is not like King Crimson AT ALL lmao. King Crimson itself is just The World but more needlessly convoluted.
What you said about jjk is true for me. I watched the anime when it first came out and I fell asleep honestly. I came back again a year later and struggle to connect to a character. I to this day will never get the hype over jjk
"The ringo Road Again fight is okay at best" finally someone with an opinion, I swear to god, they fanboys for part 7 ruined my experience with the manga, with all the unnecesary praise and hype. The ringo fight was ok, but people treat it like the best fight vs a minor villain ever just because ringo had a little more of depth as a character and a backstory, which is not something exclusive to this fight, araki has done that before and after. the fight overall was better than average, but ok at the end of the day. Also, I couldn't care less about johnny. Gyro, Diego and Valentine are the reasons why I like part 7 overall.
FAX
Edit: except Johnny part, man. I can totally get why though, since every character in SBR shines so bright, and Johnny comparing to them aren’t that “interesting” or “likable”.
I agree with Ringo Roadagain. When I heard people praised the arc after finishing Part 7 for the second time, I was genuinely confused whenever people mentioned Ringo, because I have no idea who they were talking about until I read it the third time.
SBR is one of my favorite parts, but I agree, the Ringo fight is super overrated.
Don’t agree with you at all for the beginning the intro of gyro was cool the first phase of the race was amazing. When reading I was here the announcer in my head and scrolling on my computer I saw that race and how they were riding its was exiting
I enjoy the introduction of characters. Gyro included. I guess just wasn't used the longer format for chapters in Jojo by this point. So when things happen they take twice as long. And by extension, the race as well. Which I was losing interest in the more I read.
@@adamshadow9881 I understand what you’re saying but to me this is the best way JOJO can get away with doing a tournament arc.
@@dillonjohn7999 Very true. Took over 600 chapters for Jojo to have a Tournament Arc. Which is pretty darn cool.
Do you see Ugly Sonic on Chip and Dale?
i agree the beginning is weak but your criticism of the repetitive nature of the announcers dialogue was strange to me. idk if youve ever watched footage of horse racing but they're updating you every second, namedropping nonstop. Its almost auction-like.
Also ball breaker isnt really gyro's stand. It's gyro's balls' stand lol. Gyro's stand was that scanning thing.
The scanning ability was one of the eyes of the Holy Corpse. He gives it to Lucy later, so she can use it. Ball Breaker is Gyro's Stand.
Diego best boy
The hype has been ah uge tur n-off for me honeslty. I already don't li ke continuity reboots and the removal of elements like vampires and pillar men as well as lack of any continuity wuth rpevious parts I'm not findign any motivation to take any interest in this part.
I have to agree that Ringo roadagain is overrated in my opinion
I think his stand was fun and I like the end of the fight but yeah he's not the best minor antagonist in sbr, that goes to wekapipo or Diego in the scary monsters arc
3:10 isn’t that what commentators do? Repeat everything that’s happening?
Repeating things is fine. But when I have to see the same phrase said 4-5 times, for multiple pages in a single chapter or more is a bit tiresome.
@@adamshadow9881 if anytime you read catch-22 , beware , that story(considered as a classic) is full of repetition 🤣🤣
Johnny Joestar is the greatest character in all of fiction.
4 mins into the video and the guy compares JJK (a shonen) with SBR (a seinen) in terms of action, saying SBR lacks action, that's all I needed to know, I'm gonna save myself the other 16 mins, don't wanna find out if he also compares it to MHA too lol
My fault original gangster.