yea and those were BIG lots....you should see the small ones. They put these high density housing tracts in and you can literally see your neighbors wife changing clothes......and hand her a hair brush through the window. Pathetic. IMO. no reason for it. other than government costing so much for builders.
@tabbott429 But seriously, I grew up in the midwest. Every house I owned was assessed and appraised at with 20% land value and 80% home value. It's opposite in LA County. It's a matter of economics.
@@rcampbell4967 and on top of that the hard cost of building a home even if you have the land now here is higher than you can afford the payments for it. They added tons of building code stuff for energy efficient and now even the building cost is higher than anywhere in the nation. (not including the land)
@mikethepainter I'm prepping my house for sale and we're moving. Not for work, just to get the hell out and escape the politics, homeless, crime. Everything. Narrowing places down now.
That place is becoming a mess Mike! all the neighborhoods are so "ho Humm". Born and raised there and its not the same place.. Hey, I read the tea leaves a decade ago and my desires to move finally came true and I'm not even sad I left. All the regulations are just dumb and so are the voters. That place has become an armpit and its getting stinky
yea Jerry it really is bad....My house is paid off. I have a lot of stuff.....it would cost me a fortune to leave and my property taxes would go up a lot. Since you left many other contractors generals, painters, etc. have also left. Kelly Moore paints in the bay area Closed EVERY store. Then home depot raised their prices on paint like 100%....I was there yesterday and like ONE PERSON was getting paint. Only 1 tinter now......Nobody is painting. The old neighborhoods we were painting in back when I saw you at the paint store, you dont see painters anymore RARELY...
Looked like a lot of stucco. Are you sure those are all painted? Many times they put color in the finish coat of the stucco and there’s no need to paint it. Of course you can if you want to.
I always explain to my customer that a home is the most expensive thing that you'll buy in life your for most of us so you want to maintain that expense to have it be worth as much as you can make it so while painting isn't cheap anymore but just adding a new paint job will add longevity to the home and also increase the worth
I didn't realize how crazy the mark up is on paint. About 5 years ago a guy gave me his contractors number to use to buy paint for my house after I did some work at his house. Finally, in 2023 I went to Kelly Moore and purchased 15 gallons - it was at least half of what I would have paid retail. Thanks to some of your stucco crack repair recommendations it's been 11 months since painting and everything is still looking good. The prices you quoted were about the same as in the SF bay area, my dentist had a few estimates. The highest being $12,000. She paid $8,800 for a single story 2,000 sq ft house.
Kelly Moore Closed all stores RECENTLY.....Because of Environmentalist lawsuits. costing them 760 million from 40 years ago. Makes total sense to me....OMG.
and she probably got a LOT of water in that paint job for that price up there. My buddy in the 90s was doing them for almost 5000....other guys were double that back then.
I agree 100 percent with you. To paint the exterior of our home not counting labor, it costs around $1000 just for paint and materials. Back then I could have got it for around 300 bucks. And I live in Washington state. (West coast)
Fires everywhere. and Hot as hell I am not working in this crap....Thank the Environmentalists for not letting the forests thin the tree population so it burns down.
I like how it’s situated in Florida, most people live in what’s called efficiencies, and they usually live there from month to month. If they decide to leave it all together and go elsewhere, you have to paint the place inside and out to what it looked like before you moved in and that makes for a lot of good remaining paint being put out curbside, giving someone like myself an opportunity to not spend money on paint in case I need some for a project(. (you’d be surprised at how much paint I was able to acquire over time, free of charge)
You can purchase 5 gallon buckets of premium paint in AZ for less than $75 per 4 gallon, all your supplies can be purchased in AZ for 5%0 less in AZ bring it to cal and do the job with two other guys pay your prep guy decent, pressure wash the house, mask paper, plastic it off and offer a two story two tone for $9k since story for $5k and do at least one complete quality job per week. No permits are required, the homeowner gets HOA approval. Give the neighbor notice of spray date to protect from over spray on car claims. and you could make a ton of money
Lets hope it stays that way....AZ voting is changing. and not for the best. I hear they are going to adapt the ca smog program. and many other items that will make things become more like here.
It took 30 gallons (~$65 a gallon) to paint our house (~2800sqft inside) - 2 colors (BM Regal Select). I expect it to last 10 years. Quotes here in Oregon $6k-8k. I've seen quotes from $6-$12k (3 bids, 2 houses - us and a neighbor). People should expect about 0.5% - 1.0% (value of house) maintenance cost per year to maintain their house. On a 500k house people should expect at least $2.5k-5k maintenance per year for a house 10+ years old. Paint, appliances, gutters, landscape (yard, trees, bushes), furnace / A/C, etc.
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I noticed after 07 that young people started moving back in with their parents and they still have not moved out.
Hey Mike, the bad build quality on those tract homes is not just with the exterior. One positive for good painters in the area is that they usually have HOA's in those neighborhoods and homeowners are required to keep up the appearance of the exterior.
yea your right the build quality is total rubbish 90s they cut a lot of corners to cover the cost of the fire sprinklers and other required items from State laws. People recently started suing the builders and many That I am aware of have stopped any new tracts in CA. they just build in other states where it is profitable.
Paint went up 300% in 4 years. Sounds like someone has cornered the market. You should do a little homework. Private Equity playbook at work. They have taken over the entire economy.
Look at HVAC Reg's -- Pandemic 30% increase --- now this Seer 2 thing -- another 25-30% increase. Change out for a 2000 ft ranch near 18k...insane from 13k in 2019.
Without even watching (not interested) it comes down to one thing. Cost of living. Everything in CA will cost you more. HCOL areas are HCOLs for a reason.
Big house BIG expenses. People are becoming tapped out and dont get quality service half the time so they dont feel its worth a high price. Keeping overhead low makes staying competitive easier. Big companies offer financing which gets them the business. I do ALL my jobs (residential remodeling/ painter/handyman ) personally with assistance from 1 guy or 2 guys occasionally. Quality never suffers when the owner is also the worker. Im loving the Detroit suburbs for abundance of work for 20 years. Low cost housing etc. All referrals at this point. No ads needed. Sometimes "undesirable" areas are much better for cost of living and less regulation. CA proves this. People being ROBBED by govt overreach and continue to dwell there by choice. Shame on them.
its interesting I was driving around nice neighborhoods in Portland area (Oregon) and saw the same thing, Im thinking what is going on? paint fading just about every other 2-3 houses as Im driving observing it. So Im thinking what is going on is this labor shortage thing is real or maybe like you are saying here in the video the money issue. I also see this on appartment complex too not just houses. on a positive note though because so many house needs a paint job, people that do want to work and not charge crazy can stay busy with work.
You couldnt pay me enough to live in a cookie cutter sub like that. Yuck.
That works. In California, you likely couldn't afford it unfortunately.
yea and those were BIG lots....you should see the small ones. They put these high density housing tracts in and you can literally see your neighbors wife changing clothes......and hand her a hair brush through the window. Pathetic. IMO. no reason for it. other than government costing so much for builders.
@tabbott429 But seriously, I grew up in the midwest. Every house I owned was assessed and appraised at with 20% land value and 80% home value. It's opposite in LA County. It's a matter of economics.
@@rcampbell4967 and on top of that the hard cost of building a home even if you have the land now here is higher than you can afford the payments for it. They added tons of building code stuff for energy efficient and now even the building cost is higher than anywhere in the nation. (not including the land)
@mikethepainter I'm prepping my house for sale and we're moving. Not for work, just to get the hell out and escape the politics, homeless, crime. Everything. Narrowing places down now.
Don't you think America is on a road to ruin?
No, but California is half way there.
Yes, the whole country is done And it boils down to the stupidity of the American.
That place is becoming a mess Mike! all the neighborhoods are so "ho Humm". Born and raised there and its not the same place.. Hey, I read the tea leaves a decade ago and my desires to move finally came true and I'm not even sad I left. All the regulations are just dumb and so are the voters. That place has become an armpit and its getting stinky
yea Jerry it really is bad....My house is paid off. I have a lot of stuff.....it would cost me a fortune to leave and my property taxes would go up a lot. Since you left many other contractors generals, painters, etc. have also left. Kelly Moore paints in the bay area Closed EVERY store. Then home depot raised their prices on paint like 100%....I was there yesterday and like ONE PERSON was getting paint. Only 1 tinter now......Nobody is painting. The old neighborhoods we were painting in back when I saw you at the paint store, you dont see painters anymore RARELY...
Looked like a lot of stucco. Are you sure those are all painted? Many times they put color in the finish coat of the stucco and there’s no need to paint it. Of course you can if you want to.
I always explain to my customer that a home is the most expensive thing that you'll buy in life your for most of us so you want to maintain that expense to have it be worth as much as you can make it so while painting isn't cheap anymore but just adding a new paint job will add longevity to the home and also increase the worth
I didn't realize how crazy the mark up is on paint. About 5 years ago a guy gave me his contractors number to use to buy paint for my house after I did some work at his house. Finally, in 2023 I went to Kelly Moore and purchased 15 gallons - it was at least half of what I would have paid retail. Thanks to some of your stucco crack repair recommendations it's been 11 months since painting and everything is still looking good. The prices you quoted were about the same as in the SF bay area, my dentist had a few estimates. The highest being $12,000. She paid $8,800 for a single story 2,000 sq ft house.
Kelly Moore Closed all stores RECENTLY.....Because of Environmentalist lawsuits. costing them 760 million from 40 years ago. Makes total sense to me....OMG.
and she probably got a LOT of water in that paint job for that price up there. My buddy in the 90s was doing them for almost 5000....other guys were double that back then.
Goodness. That smoke from wildfires sure is ominous!!
I agree 100 percent with you. To paint the exterior of our home not counting labor, it costs around $1000 just for paint and materials. Back then I could have got it for around 300 bucks. And I live in Washington state. (West coast)
yea all this is effecting west coast Liberal thinking. They dont care about construction workers.
Also. The amount of brown makes it seem at times like you have a sepia filter on.
Fires everywhere. and Hot as hell I am not working in this crap....Thank the Environmentalists for not letting the forests thin the tree population so it burns down.
I like how it’s situated in Florida, most people live in what’s called efficiencies, and they usually live there from month to month. If they decide to leave it all together and go elsewhere, you have to paint the place inside and out to what it looked like before you moved in and that makes for a lot of good remaining paint being put out curbside, giving someone like myself an opportunity to not spend money on paint in case I need some for a project(. (you’d be surprised at how much paint I was able to acquire over time, free of charge)
You can purchase 5 gallon buckets of premium paint in AZ for less than $75 per 4 gallon, all your supplies can be purchased in AZ for 5%0 less in AZ bring it to cal and do the job with two other guys pay your prep guy decent, pressure wash the house, mask paper, plastic it off and offer a two story two tone for $9k since story for $5k and do at least one complete quality job per week. No permits are required, the homeowner gets HOA approval. Give the neighbor notice of spray date to protect from over spray on car claims. and you could make a ton of money
Lets hope it stays that way....AZ voting is changing. and not for the best. I hear they are going to adapt the ca smog program. and many other items that will make things become more like here.
I buy lots of stuff in AZ right now....and some in NV.....F cali.
It took 30 gallons (~$65 a gallon) to paint our house (~2800sqft inside) - 2 colors (BM Regal Select). I expect it to last 10 years. Quotes here in Oregon $6k-8k. I've seen quotes from $6-$12k (3 bids, 2 houses - us and a neighbor). People should expect about 0.5% - 1.0% (value of house) maintenance cost per year to maintain their house. On a 500k house people should expect at least $2.5k-5k maintenance per year for a house 10+ years old. Paint, appliances, gutters, landscape (yard, trees, bushes), furnace / A/C, etc.
I noticed after 07 that young people started moving back in with their parents and they still have not moved out.
Tax and spend is not a good policy.
It works for Broke califonia
Hey Mike, the bad build quality on those tract homes is not just with the exterior.
One positive for good painters in the area is that they usually have HOA's in those neighborhoods and homeowners are required to keep up the appearance of the exterior.
yea and many of them are still not doing it. they just dont have the money. HOA fine might be less than painting.
or they do it themselves
yea your right the build quality is total rubbish 90s they cut a lot of corners to cover the cost of the fire sprinklers and other required items from State laws. People recently started suing the builders and many That I am aware of have stopped any new tracts in CA. they just build in other states where it is profitable.
it’s ridiculous
Paint went up 300% in 4 years. Sounds like someone has cornered the market. You should do a little homework. Private Equity playbook at work. They have taken over the entire economy.
Look at HVAC Reg's -- Pandemic 30% increase --- now this Seer 2 thing -- another 25-30% increase. Change out for a 2000 ft ranch near 18k...insane from 13k in 2019.
Big house big paint.
I purchased a sprayer and will be doing it myself over a few days :)
Should be fun, except for the prep work haha
New viewer here Mike. Interesting stuff. Your house like mine...I can't afford me to keep up with the stuff...😄
I DIY most of the project around the house. Even car repairs.
Private Equity takeover. Do a little homework
Without even watching (not interested) it comes down to one thing. Cost of living. Everything in CA will cost you more. HCOL areas are HCOLs for a reason.
Thanks for the video and explaining what is going on.
Big house BIG expenses. People are becoming tapped out and dont get quality service half the time so they dont feel its worth a high price. Keeping overhead low makes staying competitive easier. Big companies offer financing which gets them the business. I do ALL my jobs (residential remodeling/ painter/handyman ) personally with assistance from 1 guy or 2 guys occasionally. Quality never suffers when the owner is also the worker.
Im loving the Detroit suburbs for abundance of work for 20 years. Low cost housing etc. All referrals at this point. No ads needed.
Sometimes "undesirable" areas are much better for cost of living and less regulation. CA proves this. People being ROBBED by govt overreach and continue to dwell there by choice. Shame on them.
its interesting I was driving around nice neighborhoods in Portland area (Oregon) and saw the same thing, Im thinking what is going on? paint fading just about every other 2-3 houses as Im driving observing it. So Im thinking what is going on is this labor shortage thing is real or maybe like you are saying here in the video the money issue. I also see this on appartment complex too not just houses. on a positive note though because so many house needs a paint job, people that do want to work and not charge crazy can stay busy with work.
pretty much a west coast thing. Environmentalists and Leftists have made it near impossible for people to do any maintenance.
Yeah you do genius
To bad you can’t spell
Do you need to spell in order to paint??? 😭
difference between not being able to spell and the N sticking on your keyboard......the real comment should be TYPO.....Smart ass.