Honda TRANSALP 750 vs Triumph TIGER 660 [QuickTest#30]

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  • @RocketMan_Moto
    @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +6

    CORRECTION: the weight difference in favour of the Tiger is 2kg, not 20 (206/208) so not significant. I misread my notes and used the Trident’s 189kg. Apologies🙈

  • @theeschatechannel2854
    @theeschatechannel2854 Рік тому +20

    “The transalp has the now famous grip angle, that triumph owners could only dream of” 😂😂😂 I love the subtle British humor 🍻

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      😬

    • @adrianp7475
      @adrianp7475 Рік тому +1

      famous grip angle ???

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +5

      Sorry, it’s something I’ve mentioned in earlier videos. The Transalp can display the angle at which your right wrist is turning the throttle🤦‍♂️

    • @NakedBikeJase
      @NakedBikeJase Рік тому

      ​@@RocketMan_MotoI was wondering about exact same till I saw the video 😂 I first thought that Honda had come up with an ingenious way to adjust the handlebar to suit different-sized riders or between on-road and off-road purposes..... talk about redundant information 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @judge831
    @judge831 Рік тому +2

    I've been so exited for this! Thank you!

  • @philipTOMPSETT
    @philipTOMPSETT Рік тому +7

    Loved the ‘shortlist’ pun😂

  • @flatcapcaferacer
    @flatcapcaferacer Рік тому +5

    So you picked the bike you bought.....what a surprise 😄😄 Personally I'd rather have Tiger 660 Sport for my riding style and the lovely sound of the triple winding towards red line.
    I would like to compliment your willingness to change bikes almost as often as the season changes in North America. 😅😅 You kinda remind me of my best friend who convinced me with persuasive arguments each new bike was better and would be the last one until he passed away.
    RM keep on keeping on and do what you do it brings a smile to my face.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your feedback😊

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 Рік тому +2

      In most cases he doesn't. He does so many comparisons. In more often that not he doesn't favour the bike he has himself at the time. It's OK though rocket man changes bikes more than I change shoes but I believe that's part of the channel.

    • @flatcapcaferacer
      @flatcapcaferacer Рік тому

      @@chrishart8548 😅😅

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +3

      I’ve had poor bikes in the past (F900XR), but as soon as I realise I made a booboo, I confess😊

    • @waking2023
      @waking2023 7 місяців тому

      I prefer the tiger 10 x 😂

  • @moreorlesdone1497
    @moreorlesdone1497 Рік тому +1

    Great review. I agree about the TA fuel economy. I’ve been getting similar figures. Absolutely outstanding! Not quite as good as the CB500X, but close.

  • @blackshark2088
    @blackshark2088 Рік тому +4

    I love my XL750... Greetings from Germany (Saxoni)

  • @agnwstos1212
    @agnwstos1212 Рік тому +2

    it always amazes me how the comments "fall in line" with the reviewer lol. If you see a positive review about a bike, most of the comments are also positive and vice versa.
    I ve also ridden both, so my 2c (also playing the devils advocate here)
    - if you dont consider offroading, why would you choose a 21 front wheel with tubes?
    - if you commute and ride on weekends, t660 is perfect for the job. One of the best all rounders ive ridden (another two examples are the versys & cb500x).
    - where i am from, price difference is 2k , so another factor to consider. The T750 is the same class with the tiger 900 not 660. Yes, bigger price difference but the t660 is not an adventure bike. Direct competitors of t660: versys 650, tracer 7, vstrom 650
    - Fit & finish is top level, especially at this price point...most people complain without even seeing the bike up close lol
    - Cons: passenger comfort, wind protection
    - Pros of the T750: longer distance travels, more toque from the get-go
    edit (for any replies): i had the t660 for 1 year, bought the t750 and kept it for 6 months and then moved to a tiger 900 (which ticks all the boxes for me)

  • @alb3096
    @alb3096 Рік тому +2

    Tres bonne idée ce comparatif lègerement decalé.

  • @jeffreymoorbeck5039
    @jeffreymoorbeck5039 Рік тому +2

    Nice review. I've tested the Tiger 660 Sport several times. I really wanted to like it, but just didn't. I had an '09 Street Triple R that I just loved, and even though the 660 motor is very close to the same I just didn't like the way it made power. Also, found the bars really buzzy and the windscreen was super noisy no matter the position it was in.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +2

      Yes, it is buzzy - forgot to mention that. Engine way off a Street Triple, for sure.

    • @alexduey7868
      @alexduey7868 Рік тому

      i 100% agree with you on every complaint. a good bike but their are better for sure.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Of course👍😊

  • @lynsmith1096
    @lynsmith1096 Рік тому +1

    Good comparison video

  • @MikeK6046
    @MikeK6046 Рік тому +2

    As to which one to get/ have??? It just "really" just boils down to personal preference (butfor me they "both" should have the option for factory cruise control)

  • @fastchip
    @fastchip Рік тому +2

    Here's hoping for a test of the '24 base AT with tubeless tires and more (112Nm) mid-range torque. Would be interesting to compare with the Transalp, even if they are in a different price class.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +2

      Tbh, I’m not that excited by the new AT. It’s too expensive for ‘only’ 100hp. I’d want more power for that money. That said, a comparison video would be good, I’ll ask my dealer…

    • @_hold_the_line_
      @_hold_the_line_ Рік тому

      That would be great because I'm looking at both as well.

    • @ighost2605
      @ighost2605 Рік тому +2

      What is interesting is that both AT '24 and BMW 1300GS have 19" front wheels... Would also like to see TA750 with 19" front alloy wheel (like vstrom 800RE).
      😊

    • @fastchip
      @fastchip Рік тому +1

      @@ighost2605 Only the AT Adventure Sport not the base model AT with 21"

    • @ighost2605
      @ighost2605 Рік тому

      Fair enough, thanks for notice

  • @alanbarnes2920
    @alanbarnes2920 Рік тому +2

    Another enjoyable vid RM…btw any Kawasaki reviews planned?

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Thanks, Alan. Unfortunately the local Kawasaki dealer here is not very… dynamic😐

  • @dgomes265
    @dgomes265 Рік тому +1

    The Tiger 850 sport would be an interesting comparison. Hopefully you can test the new Vstrom road focused model with the 19 front wheel.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      The 850 wasn’t available. I’ll try and get hold of the SE😊

    • @peterng779
      @peterng779 Рік тому +2

      850 can not compete. I am previous own 850, sold to buy t750

    • @gk22890
      @gk22890 7 місяців тому

      @@peterng779may I know why you took this decision? I’m looking at both the 850 and the 750. Very confused as to which one to go with.

  • @andrecrawford7720
    @andrecrawford7720 7 місяців тому

    Awesome I needed this. Any chance of the nx500 review please

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  7 місяців тому +1

      2024 Honda NX500 [QuickTest#37]
      ua-cam.com/video/--PL45RxiLA/v-deo.html

  • @alb3096
    @alb3096 Рік тому +5

    The Tiger 660 is not really an average Triumph under my eyes, it misses a few premium caracteristics that other Triumph seems to have. The 400X scrambler looks on paper more Triumphesque than the 660. I do not understand that Triumph wanted to make it too cheap vs their average quality they provide on other models.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      I agree👍😊

    • @Madprax
      @Madprax Рік тому

      Triumph made this 660 range to make BIG profit with the newbies who dont make the difference between high quality and cheap junk, and trust all the marketing reviews that say its a very good bike , focussed on useless gimmicks...
      Such a shame when Triumph made the best of the best A2 bike ever done : The Street Triple 660S . Nearly as good as the 675. 😉

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j Рік тому +1

    I like the 660 better to look at. Just. Does the screen adjust?
    Just out of interest, RM, do you have a UK or Portuguese driving licence? Nick J

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Actually French. If you have an EU licence, you don’t need to change it when you change country, although you do have to register it with the local authorities😊

    • @1990-t1j
      @1990-t1j Рік тому

      @@RocketMan_Moto You can use a UK one, too.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Only for a limited time since Brexit

  • @judge831
    @judge831 Рік тому

    I bet a comparison between the Transalp and the Tiger 850 would be a great comparison too.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      I'm hoping to ride the new Tiger 900 as soon as the demonstrator is available at Triumph Algarve

  • @bobbluesbarker
    @bobbluesbarker Рік тому +1

    I was interested to see a Tiger 850 Sport in the showroom at the beginning of the video. Apparently they are as rare as rocking horse poo, if other channels are to be believed.
    Nice review, but I think that those 2 bikes are too far apart for serious comparison? Tiger 660/Versys 650/VStrom 650/Tracer 700 would be the more obvious comparison, but it's interesting to note that, apart from the NC750X, Honda don't really have a serious competitive bike in this sector?

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your feedback. The Tiger 850 was actually sold and awaiting delivery.

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller8980 Рік тому +6

    Honda.
    If it only had tubeless though!
    Suzuki have just announced a new 800 Strom with 19 inch front, and tubeless. Honda take note!
    Ride safe and happy travels 👍

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +2

      The new Suzuki does look good. It will still have the engine-heat problem, though🙁

    • @teneretraveller8980
      @teneretraveller8980 Рік тому

      @@RocketMan_Moto works for me in the wet, cold uk!

    • @podunkman2709
      @podunkman2709 Рік тому

      ​@@RocketMan_MotoAnd vibration - like heat also right leg

    • @trailrider1980
      @trailrider1980 Рік тому

      ​@@RocketMan_Motoi am not sure how many miles the one you rode had but i am at almost 3,000 miles and the heat is significantly reduced. I assume since the cat was new it produced more heat. However, not a deal breaker.

    • @alessandromacchi1731
      @alessandromacchi1731 Рік тому +1

      I still believe that BMW F900 XR and Guzzi V85 TT are the best bikes in this segment.

  • @djwxyz
    @djwxyz Рік тому

    Where are you getting 20kg advanctage for the Tiger from? They are almost the same weight.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      You’re right, I mistakenly used the Trident’s 189kg. Well spotted👍

  • @bacciuelmagnifico5943
    @bacciuelmagnifico5943 Рік тому

    Which one ist better in the mix on the Street?

  • @alex-su81
    @alex-su81 Рік тому

    After several months - have you change your mind regarding street triple vs speed twin? I'm currently on a fence between these two. I know that most of the time I'll be cruising not so well maintained midwest roads and go on occasional weekend tours - so twin looks like a better choice. But can't stop thinking about all the goodies one gets with Triple, like stylema breaks... oh, tough choice.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      Nice dilemma to have! Tbh, if money were no object, then having both bikes is justifiable. They are very different in the way they ride: the Triple is like a scalpel, darting from one corner to the next, while the Speed is like a big fat juicy steak that puts a smile on your face thanks to its incredible grunt. In this regard, I actually prefer it to the Rocket. Honestly, if I were starting from scratch today, I'd be very happy with either... but both is better, lol :)

    • @alex-su81
      @alex-su81 Рік тому

      @@RocketMan_Moto One more question, if I may. All bikes tend to get warm eventually, but have you noted any excessive heat coming from SpeedTwin engine to a degree of being really uncomfortable? Rumors about it probably is the only thing that stops me from pulling the trigger on a Speedy.

    • @olePT
      @olePT Рік тому

      I have a Speed Twin and live in Portugal (which has warm temperatures most of the year) and I have no complaints with heat. I’ve even ride it for several days in temperatures of 35-40 and couldn’t notice any uncomfortable heat.

  • @JMartinsATV
    @JMartinsATV Рік тому

    How would you compare the Tiger to the Trident (as you remember it)? Is it better or worse in any noticeable way?

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      I’d get the Tiger for the extra room, otherwise it’s pretty much identical 😊

  • @gordon4221
    @gordon4221 Рік тому +1

    The Transalp engine in an updated NC750x would be good...

  • @saddle8bag
    @saddle8bag Рік тому +2

    "A bike you can put on your short list." Great double entendre there rocket.
    We finally got the Transalp in the US, but the only finish is flat black primer. They won't allow any with color in. California must have determined that paint pigment causes cancer too.
    I gotta disagree with you on race brakes. I'm happy to see mfgs getting back out of this silly trend. Their only benefit is dissipating heat when braking hard from high speed over and over again without fading. Few are going to ever ride them hard enough on the street to make FAR cheaper brakes overheat. And those that do will probably be dead in short order. The brakes have nothing to do with fork dive. They also tend to come on far too easily and aggressively at street going speeds. I don't find the experience of feeling like I'm going to get thrown over the bars every time I look at the brake lever a positive.
    I'm not a fan of putting high dollar, rock hard suspensions made for riding around pristinely maintained, high speed Euro racetracks on bikes that are going to be ridden in the real world. If your fork dives (as all bikes with longer travel tend to do) change to a higher viscosity fork oil. At worst it may require a little stiffer springs.
    Part of the allure for me of the Transalp is that in a showroom full of $20k+, this can run with any of them for under $10k. I say more of this. If someone needs road racing components on their dual purpose bike, they can consult a catalog at their leisure with all the money they have in their pocket to burn.

  • @robbbbb8912
    @robbbbb8912 Рік тому

    Rocket man🌹
    Maby you already done i videon about this , but way didn't you get the bigger Africa twin
    When tour where scouting fore I new bike ? Just curious 🤟

  • @svaralen
    @svaralen Рік тому

    Salut, est-ce tu penses que la Tiger 660 est une moto pour debutant? Ou plutot aller moins puissante comme la cb500x? Je fait 1,82cm avec 110kg (belle bête) et j'aime bien la Triumph pour conduire tout les jours et faire des petits voyages. Merci de tes superbes videos ✌️ Cheers from Serbia 🇷🇸

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      La Tiger est tout à fait envisageable pour un débutant, oui. Pas trop puissante et relativement légère.

  • @NoodleDukeMoto
    @NoodleDukeMoto Рік тому +1

    “Here’s a bike you can put on your ‘short’ list”
    Haha

  • @MrBenHaynes
    @MrBenHaynes Рік тому

    19 inch tubeless front is non-negotiable for me.
    That said, the new 800 V-Strom looks to be the winner in this regard.
    The Moto Guzzi V85TT is an outlier.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      The Suzuki generates too much engine heat unfortunately - not good in Portugal - but otherwise a very nice bike

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade Рік тому

    And note the tiger has an 18.5cm step between the seats, combined with low set grab handles, you won't have a happy passenger...

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Good point👍 I didn’t have the bike long enough to test it with a pillion, so thanks for that😊

  • @metalsadman
    @metalsadman Рік тому

    Alaways laugh when you mentioned the "grip angle" lol.

  • @julianpowell6355
    @julianpowell6355 Рік тому +2

    On looks alone the Triumph takes it. I had a Transalp myself many moons ago and never liked looking back at it as I walked away.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Lol😊

    • @matcharavind
      @matcharavind Рік тому

      Julian, you should test ride the current version of TA now and share if your opinion has changed.

  • @stonkerontheroad9609
    @stonkerontheroad9609 Рік тому

    I would take the Tiger for the riding I do. I have the Tiger 1200 though. The new Tracer 7 would also be a consideration.

  • @tigerick7291
    @tigerick7291 Рік тому

    Short list😂. I got it.

  • @Madprax
    @Madprax Рік тому

    Tiger 660 is a cheaply made overpriced bike. For about the same price as the older high quality fantastic Street Triple . I owned two Street triples. I tried the Tiger660 : deception . very linear motor , muffled sound , bad suspensions , cheap steel chassis , looks like a downsized bike . Triumph makes big margins with the newbies...
    I own as well a CB500X mod 2017 , great bike for the price , just lack a bit of power , but i wouldnt say its boring , it is an enjoyable utility bike but again for the price ( it costs me so little money in insurance , fuel , servicing ... ) , i like it .
    Now i tried the 750 Translap. ( i already tried the Hornet 750 ) . Waouh !
    I think Honda has created the best modern mix "fun / torque / power / fuel consumption / sonority / cost" motor . It has all what we need in the real on road life , with no useless excess in power or costs.
    I found the Hornet very cheap indeed ... The Translap looks much better , using better quality components here and there ... i didnt feel the extra weight at all. Balance is excellent.
    Only negatives could be the suspension a bit too soft on road , bulky foot rests that hit my shin when searching ground , and some jerking in the throttle ( in both normal and sport mode ).
    But nothing really dramatical , and maybe should i just have been more used to the bike.
    Honda made a really good job on this bike , even if i am not blind , quality is far for being amazing. That s why only real negative is the price still too expensive in my opinion , compared to some others higher quality but not more expensive bikes (Street Triple R , or GsxS950 for example)
    Its 1000€ too expensive ( not to mention you have no hand guards , no engine guard , and a "cb500 exhaust" to replace with an aftermarket one )
    I like the bike , but i dont like to be scammed on a fictive price , just because concurrence is still more outrageous . Transalp shouldnt be priced more than 1500€ over the Hornet.
    In the meanwhile , I keep my CB500X , not so exciting , but does roughly the same job for less than half the cost. 😉
    If I had to choose a bike now , I would buy a Suzuki GsxS950 ( full 95ch ) as it can be found here in France at discount price for 8500€. Unbeatable deal...

  • @yonniboy1
    @yonniboy1 Рік тому +1

    I find just about everything you said in the review hard to disagree with but for me as smeone who does zero miles off road I'd opt for the Tiger because of the road bias and 17" inch wheels, the other factor that would make me opt for the Tiger is the looks, neither bike could be described as pretty but the Trans Alps looks are IMO pug ugly, anyway my 2023 Street Triple RS fulfils all my biking needs.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      Great bike. Enjoy😊

    • @shivamarya5225
      @shivamarya5225 Рік тому

      Even for the road the tiger just lacks the low end grunt of that new 750 engine

  • @podunkman2709
    @podunkman2709 Рік тому

    I wanted to ride this motorcycle, but after visiting the showroom and seeing it up close, I decided not to. This bike is so poorly made. Dash looks like a Russian gameboy. Seat has aftercrash shape. It's truly amazing that a motorcycle of this capacity consumes so much fuel.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +1

      Russian Gameboy, love it👍😂

    • @chirag4
      @chirag4 Рік тому

      You mean the Tiger 660 ?
      yes I have a Trident, & can vouch for the fact that my ride is not comfy, also, it's underpowered, not even 81 PS / HP that it is supposed to do, feels more like 75 or less ... hence, thinking of replacing it with a better commuter ... have prebooked the Scrambler 400X and now, i might just prebook the Aprilia RS 457
      already have a 2023 XDiavel & 2022 Hayabusa.

  • @svaralen
    @svaralen 10 місяців тому

    La Tiger et tres belle!!! Do you think it is a beginner friendly bike? J'ai 52 ans avec 110kg et 1,82cm qui recherche sa premiere moto pour longue duree ✌️👍 Merci

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  10 місяців тому +1

      C'est une bonne moto pour débuter, mais avec 'seulement' 80ch pour tracter 110kg, je me demande si tu ne risques pas de t'ennuyer au bout de 2 ou 3 ans..?

    • @svaralen
      @svaralen 10 місяців тому

      @@RocketMan_Moto Je vais peut etre maigrir entre temps 😜, a mon age (52 ans) cette moto fera completement l'affaire a mes besoins ✌️Merci 😭 et j'adore tes videos, le bonjour de La Serbie 🇷🇸

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  10 місяців тому

      On serait tous mieux avec 10 kg en moins, c’est sûr😊

    • @svaralen
      @svaralen 10 місяців тому

      @@RocketMan_Moto Alors la nouvelle Triumph Scrambler 400x ne sera pas pour mon gabarit!! Dommage tres tres belle becane...

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  10 місяців тому

      On est d’accord

  • @drdoolittle5724
    @drdoolittle5724 Рік тому

    The better bike cost one thousand more, surprise surprise!

  • @simongilbert2704
    @simongilbert2704 Рік тому

    good one ,, a bit shocked by the triumphs cover , - thats just plain nasty cheap ,,

  • @stojce
    @stojce Рік тому

    Personally, by looks of the bikes,... I would keep Triumph for a max 1 year, but the Tansalp I would sell it underprice in a 2-3 months.

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому +2

      Can’t help wondering why you even watched the video🤔

  • @JoRiBo13
    @JoRiBo13 Рік тому

    Owning the Trident (as second bike) for two years now and just recently have test-driven the Transalp I must say, none of both finally convinces me. The Trident is too uncomfortable, and the Transalp far too soft when is comes to suspension. The gearbox ratio of the Triumph really too short - the Honda gears are too long, only felt some tourque in 3rd and 4th. I guess, the new GS 1300 is the most promising next bike on my list....😊

    • @RocketMan_Moto
      @RocketMan_Moto  Рік тому

      I am tempted by the new GS, too. Thanks for your feedback👍😊

  • @dogzero1
    @dogzero1 10 місяців тому +1

    The Tiger 660 is one of the worst bikes I ever owned. Horrible little thing. Ugly too.