Did Felix Mendelssohn steal his sisters work?
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The Other Mendelssohn - Fanny Mendelssohn - Did Felix Steal His Sisters Work?
0:00 - Playing for Queen Victoria
0:51 - Growing up a Mendelssohn
2:20 - Women in the Victorian Era
2:51 - Mendelssohn Father and Brother
3:46 - Concerts at Home and the Music Elite of Berlin
4:39 - Marriage to Wilhelm Hensel
5:16 - Contacting Publishers
7:38 - Righting wrongs
9:27 - Conclusion
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References
Gender Roles in The 19th Century: www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victo...
Fanny Mendelssohn History: www.history.com/news/fanny-me...
How Fanny Mendelssohn was Eclipsed by Felix: / fanny-mendelssohn-in-t...
Fanny Mendelssohn: The Other Mendelssohn: www.amazon.co.uk/Fanny-Hensel...
Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel: A Life of Music within Domestic Limits: www.kapralova.org/journal9.pdf
OK... this isn’t up yet, but, here’s my comment (based only on the teaser and not the main vid.) Fannie Meldensshon, Felix’s sister was a highly talented musician in her own right... which wasn’t permitted in those days (the same fate befell Mozart’s equally (if not more so) talented sister.) I suspect that Felix felt that his sister would not be allowed to publish her compositions under her own name, so I believe that Felix did the only thing he could, and that was to publish them under his name (George Sand, anyone?).
Thank you so much for researching and sharing this story. It's one that happened so often to other women. Maybe a similar one that pops into my mind is the one of Caroline and William Herschel. Yes, they were scientists (astronomers), but also great musicians. In fact, music was their initial love. Caroline Herschel, after struggling for years, finally was respected and accepted as a professional singer, when she declined lucrative contracts in order to be able to support her brother William in his scientific work. At least, she has been recognised and awarded for her scientific work. Caroline died 1848 98 years old.
Beth, I LOVE these music history snippets! Thank you very much!
Glad you like them!
I am so happy to see you are going to speak about the Mendelssohn family! I have always loved their music and Felix is my favorite composer. The works of Fanny deserve to be brought into the light. She is hugely talented and her works are becoming very popular. I have always prided myself as a very knowledgeable resource on the Mendelssohn family. I studied them since I was a kid. I agree that Felix did not steal her works, it's more that she was not allowed to publish under her name so Felix stepped in. When Fanny passed away in 1847, Felix made sure a good number of her works were published under her name. I think this was his penance. Looking forward to hearing your take on the subject! Oh one last important thing! The picture you have depicting of Fanny is actually Felix's wife Cécile Jeanrenaud Mendelssohn Bartholdy.
Thanks for the great spot. I'll get that changed!
@@BethRoars just watched the video. Outstanding job! thank you for making this important video!
This is SO well done! Congratulations and thank you. One comment/concern… the first image you use to represent Fanny Mendelssohn is actually Felix’s wife, Cecile. Please note, this is a minor concern, but seems worth mentioning. Again, this video, the research, presentation…etc are fantastic.
What a great video! I learned something new today and I couldn't agree more with your comment about checking and re-evaluating our biases.
This was great, Fanny Mendelssohn is definitely one of the underrated greats.
Thank you for sharing this thoughtful essay, Beth! Liked and subscribed!
Hello Beth!
Thank you for this beautiful video :) Great job!
Thank you too!
@@BethRoars You're welcome :) And btw...
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Awesome video! I really love her Das Jahr, a cycle of piano pieces, one for every month of the year. My other favorite romantic era composer is Clara Schumann, her works are also underappreciated.
This was amazing. i have to admonish myself for not having heard of Fanny before, but i will certainly honor and share her music now!
Thank you. That is a wonderful recounting of the life of a great talent. We are enriched by knowing this.
It’s a keen observation that we are products of the times in which we live. As we scoff at the norms of the Victorian Era, it’s important to know that our laws, opinions and actions will be questioned by our “enlightened” descendants.
Fascinating take on the Mendelssohn family. I stumbled across this video while scanning your entire channel for a Righteous Brothers reaction (I could have sworn you did "Unchained Melody" at some point) that I never found, but I was so interested by the title of this vid that I had to come back and look for it.
I agree that social norms unfortunately served to undercut Fanny's talents and chances. I wonder, too, whether she acquiesced in allowing her family to minimize her work for so long; you have to think that some women may have internalized the notion that their accomplishments should be private and not public, much in the way that many disadvantaged groups now are sometimes seen as "participating in the own oppression." I'm glad she persevered, though, and ultimately found a supportive husband. I'd like to think that she was proud of herself and her accomplishments at the end of her too-short life.
I'll have to ask my musicologist friend about her - this would be right in her field of interest. Thanks for the lesson!
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Truly a wonderful story, but as usual it’s the gentle life lesson that wraps the video up that makes it special and worthwhile. I really appreciate your wonderful worldview and active introspection. It inspires me to examine my own views. You my friend are an amazing human being!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Its sad that they both passed away so young. I wish listen to Fannies music. Love Felixs Symphony 104 but never heard any of her work. This was a great but tragic video in more ways than one.
Great video!!!
Thank you!!
Sad really, much like Clara Schuman these are two extraordinary talents that were not allowed to fully blossom
I will say, I find her brother an extraordinary creator as well. As for the Schumans, while I wont say Robert is not an extraordinary composer I do not enjoy his style and would much rather see a fully developed Clara in the spotlight (a matter of affinity rather than merit)
In all sense, I will say, the extraordinarily strong push towards any gender will always result in loss. I find the bias then equal to what the media wishes to push. Balance, everyone should have the same odds but merit is up to the individual.
Awesome channel and loved this walk in the park with Fanny :)
Adored the information, missed the fangirl face, and loved the close up that really showed off your blue eyes.
Fanny Mendelssohn joins Anna Magdalena Bach, Nannerl Mozart, and Clara Schumann in the ranks of women composers.
i you are interested in learning about composers that are not well known due to gender, race or preferences, look into the life of Joseph Bologne, AKA "Chevalier de Saint-Georges" He served as a colonel of the Légion St.-Georges in the first all-black regiment during the French revolution. He was also a classical composer, violinist, conductor and champion fencer.
I wish I could "Love" this video instead of just "Liking" it.
Thank you!
Beth, I really liked this one........
Abraham Mendelssohn clearly knew the evolution of involvement regarding women in music before his time in my opinion: however, his views had to be well calculated.
It was an evolution of recognition that was inevitable........
Terrific video....well done......
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You tell a story and make me care about people and stories from a century and a half ago as though it were last week! Always a high-point of my week!!
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Thanks a lot
Great prospective!
Common sense guides society, mostly for the bad, and it is great when you can go with it, but when you need to fight against it, it is just overwhelming.
A similar fate like Fanny happened to Clara Wieck, after her marriage known as Clara Schumann.
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that was interesting and rarely to find on the reaction- sector, so thanks for that, i'm always keen on this sort of background information.
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It's so sad it took so long to bring women to the forefront of society. I've met so many awesome women in all walks of life & despair over the way us men continue to treat them.
Charlotte Da Sauve's from France, has a story you should tell .
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I'm disappointed in Felix Mendelssohn's lack of support for his talented sister. It takes him down a notch in my book.
It is really sad and shouldn't be the case however I am sure future generations will look back at ours and say "what the hell!" as well. For his time it wasn't an uncommon outlook. Thankfully we are a species that learn and change. :)
@@BethRoars - Clara Schumann, a noted pianist and composer and a contemporary of the Mendelssohns, seems to have avoided the issues Fannie experienced.
Since when are Mendelssohns allowed to take off their helmets? This is not the way.
That is Man DeLoreans, and they can take their helmets off when they hit 88mph ;)
@@jon-paulfilkins7820 - Ah yes... now I remember. Thanks for jogging my memory!
Women not recognized for their work? Suffering from gender discrimination? They come almost by the dozen in the different fields of science. Lise Meitner. Rosalind Franklin. Jocelyn Bell Burnell. Hedy Lamarr (yes, the acress). Emmy Noether. Cecilia Payne. Henrietta Swan Leavitt. And those are just a few.
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Of course he stole her work he was a man.
Maybe read up on some history before making such extreme claims? I think that'd help a lot.
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Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it