About twenty years ago I went to see Bruce Springsteen in Gelsenkirchen where Schalke 04 is located. On my journey home, the regional train was full to the brim with fans on their way to Bremen for a match against Werder Bremen. We quickly started chatting, and they offered me a seat and a bottle of beer, and we had a lot of fun. Even more so after I told them my fave club was Werder Bremen. They asked me why I, being from Hamburg, would not cheer for HSV or FC St. Pauli, our local clubs, and I explained to them that I always cheered for Bremen ever since I was a little girl. Afterwards, I got another beer, and we continued chatting until they had to leave the train. That's a fun memory.
Almost all german football teams got a rival the fanbase really doesn‘t like. Like Schalke-Dortmund, St. Pauli-HSV, Braunschweig-Hannover, Bayern-everyone else.
You summed it up very well Mert. You can't ask who is the best, because every single club has their own unique fanbase. Down to the 3rd or 4th division. It's more a competition who stands out the most. Me as a East German will also mention Dynamo Dresden and 1 FC Magdeburg and offcourse Union Berlin and Hansa Rostock. They all make no prisoners when it comes to coreography and actions.
The best fans are those, who behave in Naples and Nice... example given. I don´t like hooligans, from what Club ever.And I am always glad, when our BVB Fans return home without scandals.
My most emotional experience as a fan of Arminia Bielefeld, a former 1st and 2nd Bundesliga club that currently plays in the 3rd German league, was at the DFB Cup semi-final against VfL Wolfsburg. Up until then, we had not only played a great cup season with victories against Bundesliga clubs Werder Bremen and Borussia Mönchengladbach, but also a great season in the 3rd division after being relegated the season before. A few weeks after this match, the team was promoted back to the 2nd Bundesliga in first place. That night though, we didn't stand a chance against Wolfsburg. We lost clearly 0:4. After the game, the Wolfsburg fans wanted to celebrate their entry into the cup final with their away fans in their curve, but that wasn't possible. We Bielefeld fans continued to celebrate and sing for a good hour after the final whistle. I was in tears, my voice was lost, it didn't matter. We celebrated the team, the season and our comeback after a tragic relegation. We acknowledged what the club stands and always stood for: getting back up, no matter how hard you fell. We sang the club anthem and didn't let up. In the TV broadcast, the presenter commented with the word "Gänsehautentzündung" (goosebump inflammation). Here is a video with a few minutes of the post match celebration filmed from the south stand, where the Ultras are standing. It speaks for itself. That's what makes football special in my opinion. ua-cam.com/video/18ODwW5VdLw/v-deo.htmlsi=OCpRKPqXEUx0CDFB
I'm a Schalke fan and the reason for the bad results are the costs of mismanagement. The club lost about 200.000.000€ because of terrible contract handling. Now it's 160 mil in debt. But the fans are unbreakable, it's simply a religon. Bayern, Dortmund & Schalke are all three in the top 7 in terms of club members
As a German, I was in England with my father about 28 years ago and I went to Liverpool to watch football and I've been a Liverpool fan ever since. I bought a cap and T-shirt straight away and played proudly on the pitch.
I'll try it without fan glasses. Germany has some very strong fan scenes at a similar level, regardless of whether it's League 1, 2, 3 or even League 4. It's impossible to create a top 5 and even a top 10 doesn't do justice to many fan scenes. An order is also not fair. For me, a top 20 would include Lautern, Frankfurt, Schalke, Dortmund, Stuttgart, Magdeburg, Dresden, Cologne, Bremen, Aachen, Essen, Gladbach, Bayern (away), Düsseldorf, Rostock, Union, Hertha, 1860, HSV, St.Pauli. And even now I am missing some strong supporters. So sad that we have no organized support for our national team. But this is a different and very dificult topic.
Hamburger SV on 1. we don’t play international anymore but we won the CL in the 80s and we actually have a fan friendship with the Glasgow Rangers so I was supporting them on tv in the CL season
Being a Dortmund-Fan for almost my whole life, i went on my first international away tour this year, against atletico in april. Although we lost 2:1, it was an amazing experience. Being in the city with 3500 supporters, at some times capturing the stadium against nearly 70000 home fans. Amazing. Definitely going again next year. The home support in Westfalenstadion is not as good as it was 10 years ago but the away support is amazing, in and out of germany, cause everyone in the block is giving everything.
In fact, there are a couple of clubs that shape their city's character almost entirely, because aside from football, the city hasn't got many attractions to provide: Schalke (city of Gelsenkirchen), Mönchengladbach, Wolfsburg, (...) and, bottom of the list: Rostock, but, luckily there is football at least for those desperate souls - and even better: away matches, so good opportunities for short trips to nice places worth to be sighted 😇 ("Wir fahrn nach Haus', ihr müsst hier wooooooohn'!")
I'm not really into Football, but I went to St. Pauli vs Werder Bremen once with my boyfriend. Just loved the atmosphere. And I'll never forget the "battle cry" of St. Pauli: Wir kommen aus dem Norden, wir saufen und wir morden, wir waschen uns nie, St. Pauli. (We're from the north, we drink and kill, we never clean ourselves, St. Pauli)
I think in Europe football has become somewhat of a substitute to all the regional wars that used to be fought. There are many parallels if you think about it. Now men just go to a derby instead of a skirmish with the neighboring village. Im sure there have to be socio-psychological studies about this phenomenon.
Best Ultras/Support are Kaiserslautern, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Dresden, Stuttgart, Schalke and Dortmund. Need to check out the Tifo and insane Pyro from DFB Final with Kaiserslautern! Red Devils rule ua-cam.com/video/VraJfa0cpN0/v-deo.html
We are not football fans (we love and play icehockey). But the fanchoirs are always impressive, whether football or icehockey. Always a great experience! Kind regards
Did you realize that at the Euro 2024 5 Cities, where the Matches take place, their teams are in 2. Bundesliga (Köln, Schalke, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, Berlin)?
Bayern München has the biggest amount of members of any club around the world in football. Mostly because you only get tickets of Bayern if you are a member and the Allianz Arena is sold out every match. 75k attendance. It's a raffle to get tickets for home or away at Bayern. Like 38k of the 75k are already tickets that are season tickets. So 37k for a match and 5-9k are away fans. So around 28k are for sale per match and they get around 150k-300k requests per match for tickets.
I remember the first football match I went to in the UK was Southampton playing Milan. What really struck me was how Southampton didn't celebrate the players names as they entered. In Germany no matter what team the stadium speaker would announce every player by saying the first name and the whole stadium screaming the surname.
There may not be as many of us as our not so beloved neighbors from cities whose names I don't even want to mention (starting with DO and GE), but we are certainly just as fanatical and have loved our club for a lot of decades. "Es gibt nur eine Sache, die uns am Leben hält, der VfL aus Bochum, der geilste Club der Welt, wir singen deine Lieder, lassen deine Fahnen wehn, der VfL aus Bochum, wird niemals untergehn". Greetings from Bochum 💙🤍🤘
A video about german club anthems or goal songs is a nice one I think, sure 1 FC Köln (Cologne) is best.... at songs, ( anthem is Scottish melody^^)not at shooting goals😮 next season against Schalke, my brother is fan of them...
Schalke 04 is from Gelsenkirchen, a big city in the Ruhr area with a long tradition of coal and steel workers and Borussia Dortmund are the arch rivals in the Ruhr Derby’s 😂
ua-cam.com/video/p55xUb8PogE/v-deo.html This is a fan march of BSG Chemie Leipzig a team from the 4th league (Regionalliga). I'm not a fan but find it impressive how much fans they gather around the club.
My love goes to the local club SC Freiburg - if you want to know whats make them special there is a vid by copa90 when we first time ever reached the cup final... a strange club in the german game with a diffent take on many things...
Schalke in second devision had the 10th most fans per match day inside the stadium in the world (Note: from known Numbers and statistics which might differ from reality especially in south america). Best support in Germany I would say Dortmund, Schalke, Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Cologne have pretty good, loud and active supporters . But in second and third division there are also really passioned clubs like Dresden, Kaiserlautern, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, Hanover, Hertha BSC. And there some really intens smaller clubs like Karlsruhe, Aachen (last season evem in 4th division good support), Magdeburg and some others which bring really good support and atmosphere into the stadium with maybe . But its hard to this is the best. It depends on if you like volume, or choreos, or pyro or fan chants (with good lyrics) etc. A lot of good clubs over here in Germany 😂 And most people might rate them depending on the Club they support 😂
You can't say the best fans and Ultras, everyone will say ours are the best, that's very subjective. The clubs with the most members are Bayern, Dortmund and Schalke. I'm a BVB supporter because I grew up in the area, I've lived in Berlin for a long time now, but Berlin clubs will never be an option for me. In my opinion, the biggest rivals in German soccer are BVB and Schalke, if only because of the number of fans.
The favourites are of course the Japanese and the Scots, the Japanese for their cleanliness and, at least at home, going wild and creating the single most orderly chaos I've ever seen.. but simultaneously they would never even have the idea of hurting or insulting anybody, other team or otherwise. The Scots.. because: Yes, they're into the game and in the stabds they give everything they've got, but the real fun begins when the game is over and the only goal they have, is having a good time, getting blind drunk and to pass out in a hedge. No matter if their team won or lost, they somehow always find something worth celebrating; even if it's just the fact that "A Guinness a day keeps the English away". I swear and I will stand by it, if a Scottish football fan got a stray ball to the face and lost all but one teeth, they would give a toast to the remaining one - a toast, mind you, not a round. They are still Scottish after all.. 😆
I like how you see the difference between german and english football fans. (esp at 4:30 with Dortmund). In Germany organized fans are in the stadium at least an hour prior to kickoff, while in England most fans come in right before kickoff
What I think of Schalke fans? After last season I pitty them a lot for showing up in big numbers every game just to see a bunch of headless chickens running across the field and it was impressive how despite everything so bad, they still showed up hoping "this games will be the turning point". When I saw how badly they did after being religated I watched a few of their matches and concluded "Schalke fans must be masochists or why else would you volunteerly suffer like that every weekend?". Hopefully Schalke is going to put up a better fight next season, even more competition would be bad for my Fortuna it´s the competition in Germany´s 2nd devision which makes it so great so yeah, I hope next season is going to get the heart pumping hard again by big competition 😁 Not worth it making it to the 1st devision when there´s no real competition going on because you just going to get crushed in the top league when it was too easy to get there.
Your video is relatively complex to comment on, as the answer is multi-layered and you have asked a relatively large number of questions. Firstly, you have to differentiate between clubs with large fan bases, regardless of which subculture they belong to or not. This of course includes Schalke, Dortmund and Bayern. These clubs mobilise a large number of fans due to tradition and/or club success, but this does not mean that they have the strongest subculture groups (Ultras, Hools or Ultras with a Hool orientation). I try to answer the core question as objectively as possible, as I tend to be a fan of a smaller club - but have been to almost every German stadium, including clubs that I personally don't like (for example, many home games in Dortmund and also away games with Dortmund in the visitors' block). Nevertheless, there will of course be many other subjective opinions. Eintracht Frankfurt undoubtedly have the strongest fans. In terms of general support (take a look at Frankfurt in Barcelona), the Ultras and the hooligan scene. In general, however, many clubs have strong Ultra groups, including many in the lower leagues - especially if you consider this in relation to the size of the stadiums. And in general, the Ultra groups are becoming even stronger these days in the lower leagues than in the Bundesliga, due to many relegations of traditional clubs. My ranking would be something like this (based on the strength of the Ultras - not the average attendance): Frankfurt (1. Liga), Rostock (3. Liga), Dresden (3. Liga), Cologne (2. Liga), Schalke (2. Liga), Hertha Berlin (2. Liga), Stuttgart (1. Liga), Kaiserslautern (2. Liga), Dortmund (1. Liga), Bayern (1. Liga), Hamburg (2. Liga), Sankt Pauli (1. Liga), Hannover (2. Liga), Bielefeld (3. Liga), Union Berlin (1. Liga), Jena (4. Liga), Mönchengladbach (1. Liga), Nuremberg (2. Liga), 1860 Munic (3. Liga), Braunschweig (2. Liga), Magdeburg (2. Liga), Duesseldorf (2. Liga), The top 9 of fans with fighting power (hooligan scenes) is relatively easy, as there are official rankings based on fights - In general, hooligans in Germany are also an active part of the fan scene, even if there are parts that only relate to fights and not to active support. But conclusions can be drawn about the strength of the fan scene: 1st Frankfurt, 2nd 1860 Munich (3rd league), 3rd Dresden & Zwickau (3rd league & 4th league), Rostock (3rd league), 5th Mönchengladbach & Union (both 1st league), 6th Lok Leipzig & Halle & Erfurt (all 4th league), 7th Nuremberg (2nd league), 8th Mannheim & Basel (3rd league & Switzerland), 9th Bielefeld (3rd league). This clearly shows that you don't need to look at international fans, the lower leagues usually offer a better experience.
Often enough this has nothing to do with football. Some people just take any cause to roll through the streets bawling and drinking, provoking other people, and football is, as such, highly regarded in Germany, so it is a comfortable excuse.
Best fans in general I would say has Schalke. Best ultras probably Frankfurt or Dresden, best tifo had dortmund in the cl or Kaiserslautern in the dfb cup final. And the best atmosphere probably dortmund but they got weaker over the years in my opinion.
Schalke vs Dortmund ist schon das größte Derby, aber Borussia mönchengladbach vs Köln kommt sicher gleich danach und ist nicht minder geräuschvoll! 🖤🤍💚
Mert, soccer is a great sport. But soccer fans and the ultra movement are just big bullshit. Watch handball instead. Some of the biggest handball clubs in the world are from Germany: THW Kiel, SG Flensburg-Handewitt, SC Magdeburg (and somehow even retro-club Füchse Berlin). This is worldclass sport ANd normal fans.
The most "popular" Club in whole germany might be Bayern Munich but if you ask People in Munich itself you probably would get 50/50 Bayern Munich and tsv 1860 munich as an answer. If you will ever visit Munich and you want to see "Grounded" Football remember 1860 😉
Schalke is responsible for record viewer numbers in the second division. Schalke fans always support. Even if everything about the state of the club sucks pretty hard.
tbh... Watch drunken guys shouting, is rather boring to me, no offense! But as you said, you love football. I hope you switch back to any other topics, when this Euro2024 is over.
"Schlacke"-Fans sind auf jeden Fall sehr leidensfähig!
Mein Leben ist so schön, da brauch ich einmal die Woche diesen Schlag ins Gesicht um nicht abzuheben
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Naja, müssen die ja auch sein...immerhin muss SchaicehochVier alle 2 Wochen in einer Turnhalle spielen. 😁
Schlacke 08 😅😅😅
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The watched video is not really good. Very old, only from scenes in England and only very few clubs shown. There are much much better videos on YT.
You can tell from Scheiße 04 playing internationally. 😂
@@sacerdor7467 😂😂😂... 🙄🤡
You simply can't ask who is the best because everybody is so passioned about there own team.
Almost everyone agrees that Schalke Supporters are the best
true, but everyone knows Cologne is better than the rest ;)
nonono, dudes, St Pauli has the best fans - believe me, I'm 100% neutral - I schwör, Digga!
About twenty years ago I went to see Bruce Springsteen in Gelsenkirchen where Schalke 04 is located. On my journey home, the regional train was full to the brim with fans on their way to Bremen for a match against Werder Bremen. We quickly started chatting, and they offered me a seat and a bottle of beer, and we had a lot of fun. Even more so after I told them my fave club was Werder Bremen. They asked me why I, being from Hamburg, would not cheer for HSV or FC St. Pauli, our local clubs, and I explained to them that I always cheered for Bremen ever since I was a little girl. Afterwards, I got another beer, and we continued chatting until they had to leave the train. That's a fun memory.
Almost all german football teams got a rival the fanbase really doesn‘t like. Like Schalke-Dortmund, St. Pauli-HSV, Braunschweig-Hannover, Bayern-everyone else.
Sorry but it's everybody else - Bayern. We don't care about the other clubs. Your hate is our proud
@@dwayenway For you guys not caring about other clubs you certainly do buy a lot of players from them...🤣
Noone likes Schalke but Schalkefans...
@@dwayenway *pride
So much for Bavarians bragging about their superior education. 😂
@@maxmustermann8247 Schalke und der FCN. 💙🤝🏻❤
You summed it up very well Mert. You can't ask who is the best, because every single club has their own unique fanbase. Down to the 3rd or 4th division. It's more a competition who stands out the most. Me as a East German will also mention Dynamo Dresden and 1 FC Magdeburg and offcourse Union Berlin and Hansa Rostock. They all make no prisoners when it comes to coreography and actions.
The best fans are those, who behave in Naples and Nice... example given.
I don´t like hooligans, from what Club ever.And I am always glad, when our BVB Fans return home without scandals.
The chants of British fans are legendary as well just very different as you say more reactive
My most emotional experience as a fan of Arminia Bielefeld, a former 1st and 2nd Bundesliga club that currently plays in the 3rd German league, was at the DFB Cup semi-final against VfL Wolfsburg.
Up until then, we had not only played a great cup season with victories against Bundesliga clubs Werder Bremen and Borussia Mönchengladbach, but also a great season in the 3rd division after being relegated the season before. A few weeks after this match, the team was promoted back to the 2nd Bundesliga in first place.
That night though, we didn't stand a chance against Wolfsburg. We lost clearly 0:4.
After the game, the Wolfsburg fans wanted to celebrate their entry into the cup final with their away fans in their curve, but that wasn't possible. We Bielefeld fans continued to celebrate and sing for a good hour after the final whistle. I was in tears, my voice was lost, it didn't matter. We celebrated the team, the season and our comeback after a tragic relegation. We acknowledged what the club stands and always stood for: getting back up, no matter how hard you fell.
We sang the club anthem and didn't let up. In the TV broadcast, the presenter commented with the word "Gänsehautentzündung" (goosebump inflammation).
Here is a video with a few minutes of the post match celebration filmed from the south stand, where the Ultras are standing. It speaks for itself. That's what makes football special in my opinion.
ua-cam.com/video/18ODwW5VdLw/v-deo.htmlsi=OCpRKPqXEUx0CDFB
I'm a Schalke fan and the reason for the bad results are the costs of mismanagement. The club lost about 200.000.000€ because of terrible contract handling. Now it's 160 mil in debt. But the fans are unbreakable, it's simply a religon.
Bayern, Dortmund & Schalke are all three in the top 7 in terms of club members
Now imagine the atmosphere at the Revierderby, Schalke vs. Dortmund.
As a German, I was in England with my father about 28 years ago and I went to Liverpool to watch football and I've been a Liverpool fan ever since.
I bought a cap and T-shirt straight away and played proudly on the pitch.
I'll try it without fan glasses. Germany has some very strong fan scenes at a similar level, regardless of whether it's League 1, 2, 3 or even League 4.
It's impossible to create a top 5 and even a top 10 doesn't do justice to many fan scenes. An order is also not fair.
For me, a top 20 would include Lautern, Frankfurt, Schalke, Dortmund, Stuttgart, Magdeburg, Dresden, Cologne, Bremen, Aachen, Essen, Gladbach, Bayern (away), Düsseldorf, Rostock, Union, Hertha, 1860, HSV, St.Pauli. And even now I am missing some strong supporters.
So sad that we have no organized support for our national team. But this is a different and very dificult topic.
Hamburger SV on 1. we don’t play international anymore but we won the CL in the 80s and we actually have a fan friendship with the Glasgow Rangers so I was supporting them on tv in the CL season
🤣 - dich muss man einfach feiern, du Suppentrulli ("Magath, '83, unvergessen"😂)
You should react to "Fanfreundschaften" (fan friendships) as well
Being a Dortmund-Fan for almost my whole life, i went on my first international away tour this year, against atletico in april. Although we lost 2:1, it was an amazing experience. Being in the city with 3500 supporters, at some times capturing the stadium against nearly 70000 home fans. Amazing. Definitely going again next year. The home support in Westfalenstadion is not as good as it was 10 years ago but the away support is amazing, in and out of germany, cause everyone in the block is giving everything.
True Love BVB 💛
In fact, there are a couple of clubs that shape their city's character almost entirely, because aside from football, the city hasn't got many attractions to provide: Schalke (city of Gelsenkirchen), Mönchengladbach, Wolfsburg, (...) and, bottom of the list: Rostock, but, luckily there is football at least for those desperate souls - and even better: away matches, so good opportunities for short trips to nice places worth to be sighted 😇 ("Wir fahrn nach Haus', ihr müsst hier wooooooohn'!")
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I'm not really into Football, but I went to St. Pauli vs Werder Bremen once with my boyfriend. Just loved the atmosphere. And I'll never forget the "battle cry" of St. Pauli:
Wir kommen aus dem Norden, wir saufen und wir morden, wir waschen uns nie, St. Pauli. (We're from the north, we drink and kill, we never clean ourselves, St. Pauli)
I think in Europe football has become somewhat of a substitute to all the regional wars that used to be fought. There are many parallels if you think about it. Now men just go to a derby instead of a skirmish with the neighboring village. Im sure there have to be socio-psychological studies about this phenomenon.
Best Ultras/Support are Kaiserslautern, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Dresden, Stuttgart, Schalke and Dortmund.
Need to check out the Tifo and insane Pyro from DFB Final with Kaiserslautern! Red Devils rule
ua-cam.com/video/VraJfa0cpN0/v-deo.html
Kaiserslautern bis in den Tod - Ruhm und Ehre der Barbarossastadt ❤️🤍❤️
Schalalalalalalaaaaa Schaaaaaaalke 04 💙🤍
Schalke is in the city of Gelsenkirchen in North Rhine-Westphalia in the Ruhr area neighbouring Dortmund Essen and Duisburg.
We are not football fans (we love and play icehockey). But the fanchoirs are always impressive, whether football or icehockey. Always a great experience!
Kind regards
Did you realize that at the Euro 2024 5 Cities, where the Matches take place, their teams are in 2. Bundesliga (Köln, Schalke, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, Berlin)?
Bayern München has the biggest amount of members of any club around the world in football.
Mostly because you only get tickets of Bayern if you are a member and the Allianz Arena is sold out every match. 75k attendance.
It's a raffle to get tickets for home or away at Bayern. Like 38k of the 75k are already tickets that are season tickets. So 37k for a match and 5-9k are away fans.
So around 28k are for sale per match and they get around 150k-300k requests per match for tickets.
The big three in german football:
Borussia Dortmund BVB 09
FC Bayern Munich
FC St. Pauli von 1920 e.V.
This is all you'll have to know.
I remember the first football match I went to in the UK was Southampton playing Milan. What really struck me was how Southampton didn't celebrate the players names as they entered. In Germany no matter what team the stadium speaker would announce every player by saying the first name and the whole stadium screaming the surname.
There may not be as many of us as our not so beloved neighbors from cities whose names I don't even want to mention (starting with DO and GE), but we are certainly just as fanatical and have loved our club for a lot of decades. "Es gibt nur eine Sache, die uns am Leben hält, der VfL aus Bochum, der geilste Club der Welt, wir singen deine Lieder, lassen deine Fahnen wehn, der VfL aus Bochum, wird niemals untergehn". Greetings from Bochum 💙🤍🤘
You should find a video to react to in regards of Coreos those are awesome
I'm from Stuttgart. But Schalke and Dortmund are crazy but cool.👍🏼
The Video Layout is correct again, thank you.
Minute 1:30: That`s somewhere in the Netherlands! (Or maybe Belgium)?
A video about german club anthems or goal songs is a nice one I think, sure 1 FC Köln (Cologne) is best.... at songs, ( anthem is Scottish melody^^)not at shooting goals😮 next season against Schalke, my brother is fan of them...
VfB Stuttgart had this season the best Fans of the league
Nope never
Schalke 04 is from Gelsenkirchen, a big city in the Ruhr area with a long tradition of coal and steel workers and Borussia Dortmund are the arch rivals in the Ruhr Derby’s 😂
ua-cam.com/video/p55xUb8PogE/v-deo.html This is a fan march of BSG Chemie Leipzig a team from the 4th league (Regionalliga). I'm not a fan but find it impressive how much fans they gather around the club.
As a bvb fan i love that you are a rangers fan, me too ❤
My love goes to the local club SC Freiburg - if you want to know whats make them special there is a vid by copa90 when we first time ever reached the cup final... a strange club in the german game with a diffent take on many things...
dynamo dresden has a strong fanbase. they had a good attendance even when they play in the 3rd league
Top 5 Ultras:
1. Hannover 96
2. Eintracht Frankfurt
3. HSV
4. Dynamo Dresden
5. Schalke 04
Vfb Stuttgart is missing
Schalke in second devision had the 10th most fans per match day inside the stadium in the world (Note: from known Numbers and statistics which might differ from reality especially in south america).
Best support in Germany I would say Dortmund, Schalke, Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Cologne have pretty good, loud and active supporters . But in second and third division there are also really passioned clubs like Dresden, Kaiserlautern, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, Hanover, Hertha BSC. And there some really intens smaller clubs like Karlsruhe, Aachen (last season evem in 4th division good support), Magdeburg and some others which bring really good support and atmosphere into the stadium with maybe .
But its hard to this is the best. It depends on if you like volume, or choreos, or pyro or fan chants (with good lyrics) etc. A lot of good clubs over here in Germany 😂 And most people might rate them depending on the Club they support 😂
Best Ultras probably Frankfurt and Dresden.
But best supporters in general without a doubt Schalke.
You can't say the best fans and Ultras, everyone will say ours are the best, that's very subjective. The clubs with the most members are Bayern, Dortmund and Schalke. I'm a BVB supporter because I grew up in the area, I've lived in Berlin for a long time now, but Berlin clubs will never be an option for me. In my opinion, the biggest rivals in German soccer are BVB and Schalke, if only because of the number of fans.
The video you watched isnt really the yellow from the egg ;) Just some away fans abroad are shown.
No Scotland, no party! 😁Nur der BVB! 🖤💛 Oh, yeah - Rangers vs. BVB. 😭
Stefan Klos was my favourite goalkeeper for a long time ...
The favourites are of course the Japanese and the Scots, the Japanese for their cleanliness and, at least at home, going wild and creating the single most orderly chaos I've ever seen.. but simultaneously they would never even have the idea of hurting or insulting anybody, other team or otherwise.
The Scots.. because: Yes, they're into the game and in the stabds they give everything they've got, but the real fun begins when the game is over and the only goal they have, is having a good time, getting blind drunk and to pass out in a hedge. No matter if their team won or lost, they somehow always find something worth celebrating; even if it's just the fact that "A Guinness a day keeps the English away".
I swear and I will stand by it, if a Scottish football fan got a stray ball to the face and lost all but one teeth, they would give a toast to the remaining one - a toast, mind you, not a round. They are still Scottish after all.. 😆
St.Pauli has the best fan base. They even party when they lose.
Wo ist die SGE? Was sollen die Bayern da?
Schalke - impressive for an almost 3rd league club
Bayern has the most customers for sure.
Schalke playing internationally?
Thats truly an old video..lol
I like how you see the difference between german and english football fans. (esp at 4:30 with Dortmund). In Germany organized fans are in the stadium at least an hour prior to kickoff, while in England most fans come in right before kickoff
HSV fans are the most patient fans of the last 10 years. ...more to come... :D
What I think of Schalke fans? After last season I pitty them a lot for showing up in big numbers every game just to see a bunch of headless chickens running across the field and it was impressive how despite everything so bad, they still showed up hoping "this games will be the turning point". When I saw how badly they did after being religated I watched a few of their matches and concluded "Schalke fans must be masochists or why else would you volunteerly suffer like that every weekend?". Hopefully Schalke is going to put up a better fight next season, even more competition would be bad for my Fortuna it´s the competition in Germany´s 2nd devision which makes it so great so yeah, I hope next season is going to get the heart pumping hard again by big competition 😁 Not worth it making it to the 1st devision when there´s no real competition going on because you just going to get crushed in the top league when it was too easy to get there.
Your video is relatively complex to comment on, as the answer is multi-layered and you have asked a relatively large number of questions.
Firstly, you have to differentiate between clubs with large fan bases, regardless of which subculture they belong to or not. This of course includes Schalke, Dortmund and Bayern. These clubs mobilise a large number of fans due to tradition and/or club success, but this does not mean that they have the strongest subculture groups (Ultras, Hools or Ultras with a Hool orientation).
I try to answer the core question as objectively as possible, as I tend to be a fan of a smaller club - but have been to almost every German stadium, including clubs that I personally don't like (for example, many home games in Dortmund and also away games with Dortmund in the visitors' block). Nevertheless, there will of course be many other subjective opinions.
Eintracht Frankfurt undoubtedly have the strongest fans. In terms of general support (take a look at Frankfurt in Barcelona), the Ultras and the hooligan scene.
In general, however, many clubs have strong Ultra groups, including many in the lower leagues - especially if you consider this in relation to the size of the stadiums. And in general, the Ultra groups are becoming even stronger these days in the lower leagues than in the Bundesliga, due to many relegations of traditional clubs.
My ranking would be something like this (based on the strength of the Ultras - not the average attendance):
Frankfurt (1. Liga), Rostock (3. Liga), Dresden (3. Liga), Cologne (2. Liga), Schalke (2. Liga), Hertha Berlin (2. Liga), Stuttgart (1. Liga), Kaiserslautern (2. Liga), Dortmund (1. Liga), Bayern (1. Liga), Hamburg (2. Liga), Sankt Pauli (1. Liga), Hannover (2. Liga), Bielefeld (3. Liga), Union Berlin (1. Liga), Jena (4. Liga), Mönchengladbach (1. Liga), Nuremberg (2. Liga), 1860 Munic (3. Liga), Braunschweig (2. Liga), Magdeburg (2. Liga), Duesseldorf (2. Liga),
The top 9 of fans with fighting power (hooligan scenes) is relatively easy, as there are official rankings based on fights - In general, hooligans in Germany are also an active part of the fan scene, even if there are parts that only relate to fights and not to active support. But conclusions can be drawn about the strength of the fan scene:
1st Frankfurt, 2nd 1860 Munich (3rd league), 3rd Dresden & Zwickau (3rd league & 4th league), Rostock (3rd league), 5th Mönchengladbach & Union (both 1st league), 6th Lok Leipzig & Halle & Erfurt (all 4th league), 7th Nuremberg (2nd league), 8th Mannheim & Basel (3rd league & Switzerland), 9th Bielefeld (3rd league).
This clearly shows that you don't need to look at international fans, the lower leagues usually offer a better experience.
Often enough this has nothing to do with football. Some people just take any cause to roll through the streets bawling and drinking, provoking other people, and football is, as such, highly regarded in Germany, so it is a comfortable excuse.
Best Choreos and the loudest Stadium is in Dortmund
Of course, there are still good fan bases of clubs that are no longer as successful as they used to be, e.g. FC Nuremberg, SV Darmstadt 98 and HSV
Its not a shame its competition.
Best Fans in Germany:
Schalke - St.Pauli - Dortmund
In East Germany:
Union Berlin
In the South:
Nürnberg - 1860 München
Please react to Serdar Somuncu. He's a German cabaret artist with Turkish heritage.
He is also Borussia Mönchengladbach fan.
BVB fans are the very best! No doubt 🖤💛🖤💛
In this video they are only shown in away matches .
Best fans in general I would say has Schalke. Best ultras probably Frankfurt or Dresden, best tifo had dortmund in the cl or Kaiserslautern in the dfb cup final. And the best atmosphere probably dortmund but they got weaker over the years in my opinion.
Schalke? What´s Schalke? Greetings🖤💛
As you said: you have to see Ultras St.Pauli (USP) 🤗⚽️😎🏴☠️☠️
Schalke vs Dortmund ist schon das größte Derby, aber Borussia mönchengladbach vs Köln kommt sicher gleich danach und ist nicht minder geräuschvoll! 🖤🤍💚
No Hamburg? no Frankfurt? No Dresden? Welcher Pottler hat das Video geschnitten :D
I don't think there is much of a difference between english and german football (for those americans, that's what we call soccer) fans.
I'm just glad I don't live in a city with a big football club
Mert, soccer is a great sport. But soccer fans and the ultra movement are just big bullshit. Watch handball instead. Some of the biggest handball clubs in the world are from Germany: THW Kiel, SG Flensburg-Handewitt, SC Magdeburg (and somehow even retro-club Füchse Berlin). This is worldclass sport ANd normal fans.
Biggest fanbases are probably dresden and frankfurt.
The most "popular" Club in whole germany might be Bayern Munich but if you ask People in Munich itself you probably would get 50/50 Bayern Munich and tsv 1860 munich as an answer. If you will ever visit Munich and you want to see "Grounded" Football remember 1860 😉
Are they going to war, you asked. I'm afraid, some do
Doooooooooortmund ;-)
🤗🤗🤗
Vergiss Dortmund nur der FCB 😜
Borussia Dortmund!
Das sind Schalke 04 Fans.
Schalke is responsible for record viewer numbers in the second division. Schalke fans always support. Even if everything about the state of the club sucks pretty hard.
DER BALLSPIELVEREIN BORUSSIA AUS DORTMUND🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛
Mass psychology. Temporary dissolution your own identity in the total blackness of the mass which is acting as a single spirit.
Everybody knows Eintracht from Frankfurt has the best fans in Germany.
ach frankfurt ,dresden usw da gibt es viel besseres
Schalke 04 💙
tbh... Watch drunken guys shouting, is rather boring to me, no offense!
But as you said, you love football.
I hope you switch back to any other topics, when this Euro2024 is over.
Nur die SGE ❤
Hannover 96
The best❤
Bayern München ❤🤍
Wer holt die Schale niemals ins Revier…
Niemals impliziert sie wäre noch nie da gewesen und das ist halt falsch. Die Schale wurde ab 1949 genutzt und schalke wurde 1958 DM
Ich kenne den Spruch nicht, aber ich weiß welches Team sich reimt 😁
@@soewenue Wen interessieren schon Prä-Bundesligatitel? 😂
@@countbasie20 wen interessiert schon eine präzise Ausdrucksweise, bzw die wahrheit
@@soewenue das ist nur ein harmloser Fangesang 🙄
No wonder u react on german stuff since u r a HUN lol....
When the police were escorting the Scottish fans they did not need their helmets on. What a difference a country makes.
Great Video Mert! keep up the awesome videos! i Also do Reactions and would love if we could have a small chat!