Calling Doug Flutie " a 42 year old backup quarterback" should be a crime. He played 12 years in the nfl, won three grey cups, and is in both the college football and canadian football hall of fame.
@@-theislander-5888he’s not saying he was offended or Flutie wasn’t a 42 year old back up quarterback at the time he’s saying it lessens the significance of the player. Say Tom Brady did something when he was 60 and it was reported as “a 60 year old former college football player did this” it’s not innacuracy enough, no one claimed to be offended but more detail could be offered
The mad respect for Flutie in the comment section is heartwarming. Dude deserved more. He played good enough to earn more playing time than he got. I still say had Flutie started that playoff game against Tennessee then the Bills woulda won and that miraculous lateral play would have never happened/mattered.
@@edcarey2037Flutie effectively did beat the Titans! Just a tough play. If it’s any consolation, the Titans never did a damn thing after that first season in Nashville. They run off all their good players, and coaches.
You gotta hand it to BB that was the perfect play to make sure they will talk about it 20-30-40 years later so flutie`s NFL escapades won´t be forgotten
My dad played with Doug. He told me that sometimes him and Doug would go in the dumpster behind the Taco Bell and fist each other in the butthole. Good times.
Doug Flutie gotta be one of the most underrated athletes in any sport, i remember watching this game when he made that kick he solidified himself as a legend in my mind
Technically, in terms of rules, drop kick and place kick are the same way to kick the ball: the ball is snapped from LOS, touches the ground and then is being kicked. The only difference is that in one case there's a holder that ensures that the ball touches the ground and doesn't leave it and in the other case the kicker himself tosses the ball to the ground and tries to kick it as quickly as possible before it bounces too far
yeah they took the skill out of it. Being able to do this in a game with people running at you was great to see. Youll see it in rugby league here in australia. If you nail a drop kick over the cross bar AT ANY point of the game and from anywhere its 1 point. Youll see it when the games are close, but no one just goes for a 1 point shot .. although.. It would be an interesting dynamic to see. as when you score a point/try etc -- you get the ball back. from the kick off.
@@stevenbrannoxWhat with the influx of AFL players to punt in the NFL, I have been wondering if we might see one of them try it sometime. You would need very careful ball control on the drop, but it does feel more like something I'd expect to see at the MCG than Gillette Stadium.
@@stevenbrannox that is fascinating concept actually. One with an insane skill could make that shot and then do it again and again, i'm sure that would lead to some sort of rule that stops the process. Like playing 21 (pick up basketball with no teamates) 1v1v1v1 first person to 21 wins. If you score you take shot unguarded but if you keep making it to many times you'll start with ball and have to earn your points (otherwise it'd be 21-0 sometimes). I bet if league wide rugby players were getting that point 2,3,4 times in a row that they would alter the rule pretty quick so the team doesn't maintain ball after the 3rd one or something.
Place holding should be illegal touching. if a team wants to attempt getting pts thru the goal post (FG,XP) it must be a drop kick. And ffs get rid of kickoffs.
Doug Flutie was an amazing player and is a great human being. If he’d been a few inches taller, NFL teams would have viciously fighting each other to make him their franchise player. He still had a great career, but with his skills, he could’ve been the next Montana.
In the CFL Flutie was feared and revered. If you were up by 3 touchdowns with 5 minutes to play, Flutie could find a way to win by a touchdown. It may not have happened often, but you never felt safe until the last 20 seconds. He was infamous for turning what looked like blowouts into nail biters.
I don’t think he got Flutie to do it so much as Flutie had been practicing the drop kick for years and had asked coaches multiple times for the chance to do it in a real game. But since it’s kind of a stunt play, and because of the need to both respect the game and their opponent, it had to be done the right way. Thankfully Belnichek found the right opportunity to reward Flutie.
There’s stories that the pats coaches used to tease him and say “you’re old enough where you probably had to practice the drop kick growing up” When it turned out they were right, Bill decided to do this during an inconsequential game at the end of his career as a kinda send off for the guy. Yet again he got his named etched into football history, very fitting that it was Flutie of all QBs
they also are a type of kick that goes further than any other kick. I ve been doing this kick here in Australia for 30 odd years -- when I was playing rugby league.
@@sasquatchhunter86 Is the shape that different between a Rugby ball? I wouldn't be surprised if it's more a lack of practice and technique than anything.
Talk about disrespect. Flutie went to multiple Probowls. Had a full Pro career in Canada and then had another in the NFL. That drop kick was just the icing on a great career
@@Anomaly188 That was the ignorant attitude bulichik had and tried to sabotage his career by putting him in impossible positions and yet he succeeded he admitted himself.
Are you sure Flutie didn’t tell Bellichick he wanted to do the drop kick, especially as his final NFL play ever? It’s hard to believe Bellichick would have made that call.
The story goes that Bill and the pats coaches used to tease Flutie for his age by saying “you’re probably old enough where you had to practice the drop kick growing up”. When they found out they were right, Bill let him kick one at the end of an inconsequential game at the end of the year. So yes, they did plan this. Idk why he didn’t tell the story behind it because it’s a cool story lol. In the full clip you can see Bill and Flutie like giggling and celebrating when he gets to the sideline because they know what they just did.
@@DAA314this doesn’t give any advantage for the team or result in more points. This is a widely covered story, bill did this for Flutie in one of his final games because they used to tease him for being “so old that he had to practice the drop kick growing up” because Bill is a football sicko and actually knew that was the case 😂
@@eliyarrows2456 Huh??? The advantage of a drop kick is you get a scoring opportunity without the defense being set up to defend a kick or need to have a holder. The defense is caught out of position, and you don't have to take out a blocker or more athletic player for a holder. Duh
I’m paraphrasing and not 100% accurate because I’m to lazy to google for the word for word explanation but the story goes something like this: Bill and other coaches/teammates would tease Flutie because they knew he was old enough to where he probably had to practice that play growing up, while nobody else on the team could relate. Turns out they were right, he confirmed that he actually did practice this play quite a bit as a kid and so Bill asked him if he would kick one kinda as a send off to his legendary career.
Doug Flutie played football in Canada. I could throw a ball just as I could kick one. Best tie breaker if you kick the ball through back of the endzone.
You mean Boston College legend Doug Flutie? Yup that's the one. He used to practice them and was pretty good at them. The entire week before the game, the speculation on whether or not Flutie would try one was rife in the Boston press lol.
It, the football, didn't take its current shape until the 1930s. The forward pass became legal in 1906. They used to throw the "bloated" shape ball well enough. See (Charles) “Gus” Dorais vs. Army 1913.
The rule changing the ball’s dimensions, mandating a more sharply-tapered shape, was implemented in 1934. Yes, the forward pass was allowed starting in 1906 (a college rule change; there was no significant organized professional league at that point). But if the statement, that players threw the rounder, pre-1934, ball “well enough,” is intended to suggest that the adoption of the thinner, more aerodynamic ball was inconsequential to the passing game, then that’s an absurd claim. No one who has tried to throw a rugby ball (which is similar to the early-20th century American football) with an overhand passing motion would reasonably claim that it is anywhere near as easy to throw as a modern American football. The fact that some American football teams successfully used forward passing between 1906 and 1934 does absolutely nothing to cast doubt on that fact.
@ColumbiaB I said, "Well enough." The "inconsequential"is in your head! If you check out the 1913 reports of the ND-Army game you will find the reporter used the word "spiral" over and over in his article.
@@anthonyperno1348 - Did any part of the video say that the old football was never thrown successfully, or even with a spiral? It did not; so, in that context, what did •you• mean by saying players could throw the old ball “well enough”? To the point, why do you think the NCAA and NFL changed the shape of the ball, if the old ball could be thrown well enough? It’s a fair inference that your comment implies players threw the old ball just fine; it rationally follows that you’re saying the new ball didn’t significantly improve players’ ability to throw forward passes. Which is another way of saying that your argument is that the change of the ball’s shape was inconsequential (for forward passing). That’s not in my head; it’s inextricable from the logic of your statement.
@ColumbiaB Yes, it is in your head. You're assuming things I didn't say and seemed obsessed with being confrontational. All I wanted to do was praise Gus Dorais for a job well done with a bloated football. You can have the last word. My gut senses that you need to.
That’s a common kick in rugby but the ball is more like an old school American football. It was really cool to see Flutie pull it off. I was hoping it became a thing after he did it but it’s probably just too hard to do with an American football.
Not to mention it COULD be used as a trick 3rd/4th down play to keep the pressure from the defense off. Kinda like Brady’s punt on 3rd down against the Broncos years ago. However teams don’t expect their kicker to be blocked more than 1% of the time, so it may not be worth the risk. Still a cool play though.
I went to the Patriots home games during Flutie's first stint with the Patriots. I also watched him do the drop kick. I think the last attempt before Flutie was done in 1942.
I’m a Colts fan and one of my first games as a kid was when Johnson went down (maybe slipping on the logo paint if I recall) and Doug Flutie’s legend was reborn. Everyone remembered the Boston Collge play, but he was also sneaky good in the NFL and it started that day.
Flutie's last year in Calgary he was the starting QB, and his backups were Jeff Garcia and Dave Dickenson. The next year all three were starting QBs in the NFL. Legendary team.
It’s kinda an ode to the long career of Doug Flutie. Story is when he got to the pats, Bill and the coaches teased him for being so old that he probably had to practice the drop kick growing up. But Flutie surprised them when he confirmed that yes he actually did practice the play quite a bit. So this is one of the last games of the season, in the final season of Fluties career, in the 4th quarter of a decided game. So Bill calls for a drop kick so that Flutie can have his name on the record books one last time.
As a Pats fan, I appreciated that play as I saw it on tv. I remember we lost that game 28 to 26. However, we still won the division at 10-6. Those were the good old days.
Doug Floutie's career is one of the best careers for a QB in American Football History. From college and his Heisman Trophy season at Boston College and the Hail Mary. To the NFL to the CFL and back to the NFL. He played for 9 different teams over a 20 year professional career between two leagues. His career is full of awards. The Heisman and Unanimous All-American Season to the Davey O'Brien, Walter Camp and Maxwell Awards. He was a 3-Time Grey Cup Champ. 3-Time Grey Cup MVP. NFL Comeback Player of the Year. 7 CFL All-Star games. 1 NFL Pro Bowl. If he played his entire career in the NFL I feel like he'd be considered one of the top 10 QB's of All-Time.
Doug Flutie didn't get respect from NFL management that he deserved, particularly in Buffalo. He got screwed multiple times due to politics and ownership/management wanting to justify large, bad multi-million dollar contracts given to players that Flutie outperformed. The thing that was most maddening, and made fans irate when he got benched, is that despite that he didn't have the look of the prototypical, drop back NFL quarterback, the guy just knew how to win and his teammates and fans always believed they could win any game he played in. He had an aura about him that you just can't fake.
People have mentioned having an extra blocker and the surprise effect. There is, or was, an additional aspect; the drop kick could be made from anywhere on the field. A player could be running down the field and drop kick a field goal at any point/time. Don't know if this rule is still in effect or not.
I can imagine it would be semi-useful because it allows for an extra man on the line. It could also make trick plays easier and give more options to an offense.
It’s a significantly harder kick to make than a normal kick, so unless you’re kicking a field goal on the 2 yard line (which nobody does anymore) you’re way better off doing a place kick. If anything if a team lined up for a 45 yard drop kick, the entire defense would play for a trick play because it wouldn’t make any sense to opt for a harder kick.
Long live Flutie! As a Giants/Chargers fan this guy was instrumental to help shape my preference for the Bolts! Imagine him on the same team as other legends like LT, Seau, Means, Gates, Henderson etc.
January 1, 2006. A cold winter day in Foxborough, Massachusetts Doug Flutie successfully attempted a drop kick. The play that Doug Flutie will forever be remembered for.
I think he's more well known for the hail Mary against another Miami team (the U) as a member of another Massachusetts team (BC) in 86. Atleast as a Massachusetts resident i can say that's his most well remembered moment in these parts.
In arena football, drop kicked field goals are worth 4 points, and drop kicked PATs are worth 2 points. This has actually been a major strategy point in several Indoor Football League games.
Are drop kicks allowed for kick offs or restarts, or do those have to be taken as place kicks? Could see drop kicks being useful for on side kicks if you can get them high enough so that the catch can be contested
I used to practice field goals thinking I would walk on somewhere after the Navy. I got pretty good at it and tried this drop kick only once. I knocked that shit right through and will never try it again. Batting 1000.
Doug Flutie was the greatest CFL player of all time, and if the Bills hadn't benched him in the playoffs he may have a Superbowl ring to go with it. He also made the pro bowl while playing for the chargers.
I wonder if you could line up your team like you’re going for a 2pt conversion and do a drop kick instead of trying to go for it? That way you could end up kicking the ball from the 10 yard line instead of the 25 like they do when they place kick extra points. Not sure if there is any language in the rules that would allow for it?
What an awesome way to go as a player
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@@stugatz2664womp womp
Legend
@@stugatz2664thanks for sharing this history
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Calling Doug Flutie " a 42 year old backup quarterback" should be a crime. He played 12 years in the nfl, won three grey cups, and is in both the college football and canadian football hall of fame.
Thanks, I had a very similar reaction 👍😎🤠
doesn’t change the facts that he was 42 and a backup quarterback.
not sure how this can offend you.
@@-theislander-5888he’s not saying he was offended or Flutie wasn’t a 42 year old back up quarterback at the time he’s saying it lessens the significance of the player.
Say Tom Brady did something when he was 60 and it was reported as “a 60 year old former college football player did this” it’s not innacuracy enough, no one claimed to be offended but more detail could be offered
@@-theislander-5888He's explaining that it's reductive.
@@budapestgambit8946Brady wasn't a back-up after he became a starter.
The mad respect for Flutie in the comment section is heartwarming. Dude deserved more. He played good enough to earn more playing time than he got. I still say had Flutie started that playoff game against Tennessee then the Bills woulda won and that miraculous lateral play would have never happened/mattered.
I was at that game in Nashville and just knew Flutie was going to beat us when he came into the game. That music city miracle play was a classic!
As a Bills fan I 💯% agree with you..... I for one was hoping that Flutie would have played the whole game. I was pissed off with the miracle return
@@edcarey2037Flutie effectively did beat the Titans! Just a tough play. If it’s any consolation, the Titans never did a damn thing after that first season in Nashville. They run off all their good players, and coaches.
In the CFL Flutie was feared by all teams.
@@scotthodgins7975 so true. I agree
Doug Flutie was underated and underappreciated in the NFL.
Go Bills
Maybe now but he was very hyped and spoken of when he played.
Flutie never got the accolades he deserved in the NFL. So this was a perfect way to go out.
A throwback to our rugby roots. Thats dope
This
Are u people mentally challenged?? Its not rugby
So is every "touchdown" even though they don't have to touch the ball to the ground anymore.
@@rickyanke9407 ironically it's not called a touchdown in rugby. It's called a "try".
@@JimCullen was jus gonna say that, ya beat me to it lol
Doug Flutie is a legend.
Underrated legend.
You gotta hand it to BB that was the perfect play to make sure they will talk about it 20-30-40 years later so flutie`s NFL escapades won´t be forgotten
My dad played with Doug. He told me that sometimes him and Doug would go in the dumpster behind the Taco Bell and fist each other in the butthole. Good times.
Doug Flutie gotta be one of the most underrated athletes in any sport, i remember watching this game when he made that kick he solidified himself as a legend in my mind
I thought they were gonna run “The Annexation of Puerto Rico”
Great movie
It breaks my heart people out there don't know this reference. Such a good movie!
@@johnsandovaliii5312 which movie?
@@rickfastly2671Little Giants
@Dusty141 you’ve done IceBox proud…
It was also the last time Bill Belichick smiled on the sidelines.
Fr, that's a harder achievement on it's own
There was another more recent time when he abused the false start and delay of game loophole to run time off.
Lol
@@josephclaire5018 evil genius 😂
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Technically, in terms of rules, drop kick and place kick are the same way to kick the ball: the ball is snapped from LOS, touches the ground and then is being kicked. The only difference is that in one case there's a holder that ensures that the ball touches the ground and doesn't leave it and in the other case the kicker himself tosses the ball to the ground and tries to kick it as quickly as possible before it bounces too far
yeah they took the skill out of it. Being able to do this in a game with people running at you was great to see. Youll see it in rugby league here in australia. If you nail a drop kick over the cross bar AT ANY point of the game and from anywhere its 1 point. Youll see it when the games are close, but no one just goes for a 1 point shot .. although.. It would be an interesting dynamic to see. as when you score a point/try etc -- you get the ball back. from the kick off.
@@stevenbrannoxWhat with the influx of AFL players to punt in the NFL, I have been wondering if we might see one of them try it sometime. You would need very careful ball control on the drop, but it does feel more like something I'd expect to see at the MCG than Gillette Stadium.
@@stevenbrannox that is fascinating concept actually. One with an insane skill could make that shot and then do it again and again, i'm sure that would lead to some sort of rule that stops the process. Like playing 21 (pick up basketball with no teamates) 1v1v1v1 first person to 21 wins. If you score you take shot unguarded but if you keep making it to many times you'll start with ball and have to earn your points (otherwise it'd be 21-0 sometimes). I bet if league wide rugby players were getting that point 2,3,4 times in a row that they would alter the rule pretty quick so the team doesn't maintain ball after the 3rd one or something.
Place holding should be illegal touching. if a team wants to attempt getting pts thru the goal post (FG,XP) it must be a drop kick. And ffs get rid of kickoffs.
They aren't going to change the rule - it will stay there and we will see one once every 10-20 years or so.
Doug Flutie was an amazing player and is a great human being. If he’d been a few inches taller, NFL teams would have viciously fighting each other to make him their franchise player. He still had a great career, but with his skills, he could’ve been the next Montana.
In the CFL Flutie was feared and revered. If you were up by 3 touchdowns with 5 minutes to play, Flutie could find a way to win by a touchdown. It may not have happened often, but you never felt safe until the last 20 seconds. He was infamous for turning what looked like blowouts into nail biters.
Doug Flutie was a CFL legend too
The california footie league ? WOW that is cool.
"A 42 year old back up quarterback" give the man some respect. He's one of the best QB's of a generation.
No he’s not
@@GUWWTDoug flutie was an amazing QB
Just look up some of his highlights
Especially when he was in college
@@GUWWT is that why your comment only has 1 like which is probably you liking yourr olwn comment, he definatley was a really good qb of the time
@@calvin4319 now I liked my own comment so it makes 2 and it’s facts he was not that good in the NFL the CFL don’t count just look up his stats
Best QBs of a generation is a stretch. He was hardly good enough to start.
That's awesome, Doug Flutie was an a savage
I had the chance to ask Doug Flutie the story behind this kick when I was a freshman in college and he told an amazing story. Legend.
Doug Flutie is truly a legend!
Belicheck did it because of his love for the game’s history. Awesome that he got Flutie to do it, too.
I don’t think he got Flutie to do it so much as Flutie had been practicing the drop kick for years and had asked coaches multiple times for the chance to do it in a real game. But since it’s kind of a stunt play, and because of the need to both respect the game and their opponent, it had to be done the right way. Thankfully Belnichek found the right opportunity to reward Flutie.
That is the greatest last play ever for Flutie. Wouldn’t want it any other way
How fitting that a 42 year old Flutie successfully converted the last drop kick?
They say he coincidentally kicked the first one after the AFL-NFL merger
That's the history nerd in belichick.
There’s stories that the pats coaches used to tease him and say “you’re old enough where you probably had to practice the drop kick growing up”
When it turned out they were right, Bill decided to do this during an inconsequential game at the end of his career as a kinda send off for the guy. Yet again he got his named etched into football history, very fitting that it was Flutie of all QBs
@@sasquatchhunter86lmao I swear Flutie is the GOAT of obscure stats.
Drop kicks are still very common juat in rugby. It's a great skill to have because if you're good at it, you're going to end up on the field.
they also are a type of kick that goes further than any other kick. I ve been doing this kick here in Australia for 30 odd years -- when I was playing rugby league.
It has been attempted in the NFL since. It’s just hard to get successfully because of the ball shape.
@@sasquatchhunter86 Is the shape that different between a Rugby ball? I wouldn't be surprised if it's more a lack of practice and technique than anything.
@@TheTykethe football egg has sharper ends and not as much width while the rugby egg is rounder
@@TheTykethe ball shape is very diff and the weight as well.
Son, Doug Flutie wasn’t just some backup QB…
Talk about disrespect. Flutie went to multiple Probowls. Had a full Pro career in Canada and then had another in the NFL.
That drop kick was just the icing on a great career
Wait what disrespect??
That is amazing. I saw it live but didn't realize it was his last play.
I'd love to meet DF
That's his CFL history coming out.
It didn't matter where you put him. Doug Flutie was a PROVEN WINNER.
And imo could have been the GOAT of the nfl.
It was fun watching him play
If he were taller he could've been a permanent starter. His height was always the one thing holding him back.
@@Anomaly188 That was the ignorant attitude bulichik had and tried to sabotage his career by putting him in impossible positions and yet he succeeded he admitted himself.
Came to defend Flutie but I see the boys got me lol
Are you sure Flutie didn’t tell Bellichick he wanted to do the drop kick, especially as his final NFL play ever? It’s hard to believe Bellichick would have made that call.
Not at all hard to believe, Bellichick has made so many great defensive and special teams moves that directly resulted in wins
Belichik definitely did not "call for a drop kick" 😂
The story goes that Bill and the pats coaches used to tease Flutie for his age by saying “you’re probably old enough where you had to practice the drop kick growing up”.
When they found out they were right, Bill let him kick one at the end of an inconsequential game at the end of the year.
So yes, they did plan this. Idk why he didn’t tell the story behind it because it’s a cool story lol. In the full clip you can see Bill and Flutie like giggling and celebrating when he gets to the sideline because they know what they just did.
@@DAA314this doesn’t give any advantage for the team or result in more points. This is a widely covered story, bill did this for Flutie in one of his final games because they used to tease him for being “so old that he had to practice the drop kick growing up” because Bill is a football sicko and actually knew that was the case 😂
@@eliyarrows2456 Huh??? The advantage of a drop kick is you get a scoring opportunity without the defense being set up to defend a kick or need to have a holder. The defense is caught out of position, and you don't have to take out a blocker or more athletic player for a holder. Duh
I’m paraphrasing and not 100% accurate because I’m to lazy to google for the word for word explanation but the story goes something like this:
Bill and other coaches/teammates would tease Flutie because they knew he was old enough to where he probably had to practice that play growing up, while nobody else on the team could relate.
Turns out they were right, he confirmed that he actually did practice this play quite a bit as a kid and so Bill asked him if he would kick one kinda as a send off to his legendary career.
Flutie yet another example of how wicked awesome you are
That's DOUG "MUTHAFKN" FLUTIE!!!!!! always be a short GOAT!
Drop kicks are still common in 6 man football for PATs as kicking is worth 2 points while punching it into the end zone is worth 1.
Doug Flutie played football in Canada. I could throw a ball just as I could kick one. Best tie breaker if you kick the ball through back of the endzone.
I remember Doug Flutie being on TV for the entire holiday season of '84. If you know, you know.
Never heard of someone referring to flutie as somebody. He’s a legend, do your research.
Doug Flutie only needs to be described as "Doug Flutie."
A Legend made a legendary play for his last
You mean Bills LEGEND Doug Flutie???
You mean Boston College legend Doug Flutie? Yup that's the one. He used to practice them and was pretty good at them. The entire week before the game, the speculation on whether or not Flutie would try one was rife in the Boston press lol.
It, the football, didn't take its current shape until the 1930s. The forward pass became legal in 1906. They used to throw the "bloated" shape ball well enough. See (Charles) “Gus” Dorais vs. Army 1913.
The rule changing the ball’s dimensions, mandating a more sharply-tapered shape, was implemented in 1934. Yes, the forward pass was allowed starting in 1906 (a college rule change; there was no significant organized professional league at that point). But if the statement, that players threw the rounder, pre-1934, ball “well enough,” is intended to suggest that the adoption of the thinner, more aerodynamic ball was inconsequential to the passing game, then that’s an absurd claim.
No one who has tried to throw a rugby ball (which is similar to the early-20th century American football) with an overhand passing motion would reasonably claim that it is anywhere near as easy to throw as a modern American football. The fact that some American football teams successfully used forward passing between 1906 and 1934 does absolutely nothing to cast doubt on that fact.
@ColumbiaB
I said, "Well enough." The "inconsequential"is in your head!
If you check out the 1913 reports of the ND-Army game you will find the reporter used the word "spiral" over and over in his article.
@@anthonyperno1348 - Did any part of the video say that the old football was never thrown successfully, or even with a spiral? It did not; so, in that context, what did •you• mean by saying players could throw the old ball “well enough”? To the point, why do you think the NCAA and NFL changed the shape of the ball, if the old ball could be thrown well enough?
It’s a fair inference that your comment implies players threw the old ball just fine; it rationally follows that you’re saying the new ball didn’t significantly improve players’ ability to throw forward passes. Which is another way of saying that your argument is that the change of the ball’s shape was inconsequential (for forward passing). That’s not in my head; it’s inextricable from the logic of your statement.
@ColumbiaB Yes, it is in your head. You're assuming things I didn't say and seemed obsessed with being confrontational.
All I wanted to do was praise Gus Dorais for a job well done with a bloated football.
You can have the last word. My gut senses that you need to.
Flutie Flakes what a legend
Doug and Darren were both fantastic players
Justin Tucker being a kicker and a punter
That’s a common kick in rugby but the ball is more like an old school American football. It was really cool to see Flutie pull it off. I was hoping it became a thing after he did it but it’s probably just too hard to do with an American football.
There’s no reason to remove it. It will likely stay in the rule book forever.
Not to mention it COULD be used as a trick 3rd/4th down play to keep the pressure from the defense off. Kinda like Brady’s punt on 3rd down against the Broncos years ago. However teams don’t expect their kicker to be blocked more than 1% of the time, so it may not be worth the risk. Still a cool play though.
I went to the Patriots home games during Flutie's first stint with the Patriots. I also watched him do the drop kick. I think the last attempt before Flutie was done in 1942.
There may have been an •attempt• in 1942, but the last previous •successful• drop kick in the NFL, according to what I’ve read, had been in 1941.
One of the few times Bill Belichick was genuinely happy on the sidelines😂.
I’m a Colts fan and one of my first games as a kid was when Johnson went down (maybe slipping on the logo paint if I recall) and Doug Flutie’s legend was reborn. Everyone remembered the Boston Collge play, but he was also sneaky good in the NFL and it started that day.
In rugby, the ball is still rounder and thus, drop goals are an integral part of the game.
That whistle tips clip is iconic
Drop kicks are a common thing in rugby
Love ya, Doug!
I remember watching that game as a kid
Doug was on another level.
My brother would successfully drop kick in little league! Was always fun to watch, didn’t realize truly how rare it was.
BILLSMAFIA - Respect ✊🏾 on that Legend’s Name homie.
Doug Flutie was super popular back then. What a way to end a career!
Flutie's last year in Calgary he was the starting QB, and his backups were Jeff Garcia and Dave Dickenson. The next year all three were starting QBs in the NFL. Legendary team.
How dare you call him “a backup” it’s fucking Doug Flutie for god sake!
This podcast is too funny😂😂😂😂
That’s called flutie magic
I have never gotten the significance of why people love this play so much.
It’s kinda an ode to the long career of Doug Flutie.
Story is when he got to the pats, Bill and the coaches teased him for being so old that he probably had to practice the drop kick growing up.
But Flutie surprised them when he confirmed that yes he actually did practice the play quite a bit.
So this is one of the last games of the season, in the final season of Fluties career, in the 4th quarter of a decided game. So Bill calls for a drop kick so that Flutie can have his name on the record books one last time.
American football needs Canadian football’s kicking rules and strategy. :D
As a Pats fan, I appreciated that play as I saw it on tv. I remember we lost that game 28 to 26. However, we still won the division at 10-6. Those were the good old days.
Johnny Wilkinson, dying seconds of 2003 Rugby World Cup final. Legendary drop kick!
Doug Floutie's career is one of the best careers for a QB in American Football History. From college and his Heisman Trophy season at Boston College and the Hail Mary. To the NFL to the CFL and back to the NFL. He played for 9 different teams over a 20 year professional career between two leagues. His career is full of awards. The Heisman and Unanimous All-American Season to the Davey O'Brien, Walter Camp and Maxwell Awards. He was a 3-Time Grey Cup Champ. 3-Time Grey Cup MVP. NFL Comeback Player of the Year. 7 CFL All-Star games. 1 NFL Pro Bowl. If he played his entire career in the NFL I feel like he'd be considered one of the top 10 QB's of All-Time.
Doug Flutie didn't get respect from NFL management that he deserved, particularly in Buffalo. He got screwed multiple times due to politics and ownership/management wanting to justify large, bad multi-million dollar contracts given to players that Flutie outperformed. The thing that was most maddening, and made fans irate when he got benched, is that despite that he didn't have the look of the prototypical, drop back NFL quarterback, the guy just knew how to win and his teammates and fans always believed they could win any game he played in. He had an aura about him that you just can't fake.
Its still a very useful scoring method in rugby
“Likely will remain there until someone takes the time to remove it.” Yeah no shit. That’s how law works.
Last time me, dad, and my brother sat down to watch golf. thanks for the upload
People have mentioned having an extra blocker and the surprise effect. There is, or was, an additional aspect; the drop kick could be made from anywhere on the field. A player could be running down the field and drop kick a field goal at any point/time. Don't know if this rule is still in effect or not.
I can imagine it would be semi-useful because it allows for an extra man on the line. It could also make trick plays easier and give more options to an offense.
It’s a significantly harder kick to make than a normal kick, so unless you’re kicking a field goal on the 2 yard line (which nobody does anymore) you’re way better off doing a place kick.
If anything if a team lined up for a 45 yard drop kick, the entire defense would play for a trick play because it wouldn’t make any sense to opt for a harder kick.
Dropkicks are still a normal (if slightly rare) play in Rugby.
It's the rarest form of scoring, but not rare per se. It's jus that they are very hard to done well and missing causes your team to lose possession.
Long live Flutie! As a Giants/Chargers fan this guy was instrumental to help shape my preference for the Bolts! Imagine him on the same team as other legends like LT, Seau, Means, Gates, Henderson etc.
Flutie! Love it
Doug Flutie was awesome.
What a legendary way to go out for Flutie. Your last play happens to be the last successful play of its kind
Bro, Doug Flutie got the Hail Flutie on my Canes, and the drop kick on my fins. That hurts 😩 still, gotta respect a football legend
Doug Flutie is a legend
When the ball bounces, the air in it is expanding while you kick. It goes further. Soccer goalkeepers do it almost exclusively
Such a belichick play... that guy i swear to god knew possibly every single play to score points...
January 1, 2006. A cold winter day in Foxborough, Massachusetts Doug Flutie successfully attempted a drop kick. The play that Doug Flutie will forever be remembered for.
I think he's more well known for the hail Mary against another Miami team (the U) as a member of another Massachusetts team (BC) in 86. Atleast as a Massachusetts resident i can say that's his most well remembered moment in these parts.
@@tonyp1376 joke went over your head I see lol
@@WaltzRitzi I guess so 😅 Cut me some slack, I've heard faaaar dumber (serious) takes on the internet, so ya never know these days.
@@tonyp1376 lol fair enough
In arena football, drop kicked field goals are worth 4 points, and drop kicked PATs are worth 2 points. This has actually been a major strategy point in several Indoor Football League games.
Doug was a special kinda beast
McAfee crushed that drop kick though 😂
Jim McMann was another quarterback that could perform a dropkick. He would practice it before every game
And this is why he had his own cereal, Flutie Flakes.
Flutie Flakes!!
Doug Flutie = 🇨🇦 legend
"I actually invented the drop kick, and it's awesome"- Donald Trump
Are drop kicks allowed for kick offs or restarts, or do those have to be taken as place kicks? Could see drop kicks being useful for on side kicks if you can get them high enough so that the catch can be contested
I like Doug. I liked it when he played for the Chargers.
I remember watching at 12, went straight outside and started drop kicking.
I have a autograph signed by Doug Floody
I used to practice field goals thinking I would walk on somewhere after the Navy. I got pretty good at it and tried this drop kick only once. I knocked that shit right through and will never try it again. Batting 1000.
Me when I make a shot in basketball with my left hand 😂
Doug Flutie was the greatest CFL player of all time, and if the Bills hadn't benched him in the playoffs he may have a Superbowl ring to go with it. He also made the pro bowl while playing for the chargers.
Amazing story!!! Had no idea!!! Ty!!!
A great example of Belichick tweaking the other team with the rule book, all while padding the legend of Flutie. And providing great entertainment.
I wonder if you could line up your team like you’re going for a 2pt conversion and do a drop kick instead of trying to go for it? That way you could end up kicking the ball from the 10 yard line instead of the 25 like they do when they place kick extra points. Not sure if there is any language in the rules that would allow for it?
Doug Flutie was born in 1962 on January 1st 2006 he would’ve been 43 going on 44 years old.
Awesome way to go out!