This Is One Of The WORST F1 Cars Ever Made
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So apparently after lola was disqualifed in brazil one of the lola mechanics went to arrows and asked if they had any spare jobs and to his surprise he got signed right on the spot.
Lucky moment
Good guy Arrows
That's a fun fact! Thnx 😄
Good man Walkinshaw
@@barisaxmax Walkinshaw was not a good man. A thief, liar, A**hole, team owner, and business man are descriptions, but not a good man. He ran some of the most dubious S**t in racing across many series and if you got paid, that was a mistake.
To put into context how slow this car was, it’s barely 10 seconds faster than a modern V8 Supercar, a touring car.
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Brah
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I love how you assumed we all live in a world that understands what you said there
HBJ
Hotboy Jones Let me make a more globally understandable comparison then. A modern day F2 car could smash the Lola’s lap time, and even an F3 car could give it a run for its money.
You should contact Vincenzo Sospiri and ask him for input on a proper Lola mod. He's the only driver to have ever driven one...I know of the other one but he's a T.O.S.S.E.R ;)
You mean, Riccardo Rosset? Why do you call him that?
@@ParallelSyntax LOL!!!!
@@ParallelSyntax you dont know the story then. Rosset's engineers didnt like him all that much and to show thit they switched the letters out to spell out TOSSER
@@ParallelSyntax his engineers hated him so much that they literally went and changed the letters on his scooter to spell out T-O-S-S-E-R
@@magnussencube Ah yes I do remember that story now.
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Being 18 seconds slower than Heinz-Harald Frentzen: Priceless
this comment: priceless
"Some things money can't buy" indeed.
A reminder to not have a bunch of bloody credit card system twats as your main sponsor.
you mean "Hopeless"
13:30
What Jimmy says: “Let’s race the arrows”
What Jimmy means: “Let’s get absolutely dumpstered by the Arrows at the earliest possible occasion”
Damon Hill approves
Delaz was the only other person not to qualify for melben
Don’t know if you noticed but he immediately got a blue flag warning right after he said that 🤣
tbf to Jimmy: The Lola's did actually produce laptimes of 1.40/1.42 in qualifiying.
The other cars (barring Villeneuve who managed a 1.29) didn't even get under 1.31 however.
So jimmer actually performed relatively well, obviously (-) being scared for your life. But still not a bad time tbf
yeah cause 9 seconds slower is an improvement 🤣
@@housesports000 it is an improvement over being 20 seconds slower.
1:22 Qualy times are bizarrely fast for the era - Villeneuve took pole with a 1:29.369 in the real race. Your time of 1:41.360 was actually about halfway between Sospiri (1:40.972) and Rossett (1:42.086), between 11 & 12 seconds behind pole.
107% was 1:35.625, which means you were only 5.735 seconds behind the 107% time, so good work!
Yeah those lap times look more like 2018 than 1997.
@@Olivyay I was about to say exactly that! How the hell did Frentzen pull off a 1'22" with a 1997 Williams in Melbourne?!
Yeah, I used to play this mod a few years ago but the cars are way too fast. Driving at old Hockenheim is a joke
@@VWatch07 he put the AI strength on 120% i think 100% woild have made the AI post more realistic laptimes
@@PnALynx it's a yoke
Didn't know F1 had multiclass racing in 97
I like how the Lola’s steering wheel just morphs through the stationary hands of the driver model like it’s possessed 😆
rFactor moment
@@Jimmy_Broadbent hence why I disable the on screen wheel and driver
Looking forward to the SF1000 or VF-21 being featured in a video in 20 years
The SF1000 was a simple midfielder. If you want something modern, mention the monumental shitbox that was the Fw42
@@_fRobertfraurf I mean having two very good drivers helped, but I guess I was more thinking of the contrast between the team and the car it produced, taking into account the budget and facilities available to Ferrari
*2015 Manor intensifies*
@@ReachForTheSky It's amazing. All these facilities and they make a piece of crap like this.
@@ReachForTheSky if you want a contrast between team budget and car produced id say the 2015-17 McLaren cars are way worse than any of the ferrari's post 2008.
this feels like how you start out in motorsport manager if you create your own team. everyone smokes your cars until (hopefully) the 2nd season, when you're able to build better cars.
"You're about to see us get absolutely steamtrained by the rest of the field."
Well... That's Jimmer's Friday night sorted.
My claim to fame :) i was the guy who painted this car for the mod, It was originally a Stewart for the 1997 F1 Challenge mod, Oh the memories
Oh true! I got to drive it back then for a bit as I had downloaded it :D
MasterCard was desperate for a 1997 run as they were sponsoring Euro '96 European championships and then France '98 World cup so they wanted a sports presence in-between.
I can totally recommend The Race's Bring Back V10s podcast where they did an excellent episode about Lola's fateful entry.
Here's an idea: Do a race with all the worst cars in Formula 1 history, that should be something!!
Would still sound better than the MGU-H included v6's
@@gamerzone0764 it's not like V6 engines have been used prominently in F1 in the 70s and 80s
@@Hhh-j8o uhhh, i know man, I did say MGU-H included right? Or did you just forget to read it while being mesmerised by the 80's v6's( wouldn't blame ya tbf😂)
@@gamerzone0764 To be fair, they sound better now than they did when they got introduced
@@gamerzone0764 but those old big na high revving v6s sounded amazing mate...so your comment doesn't make much sense
Lola may have needed to swipe the Mastercard a few more times to get ready for that season
Such a great idea, loved this! Yeah Lola were bad, but especially in the early 90's there were a ton of small teams that appeared and disappeared over the season, often using several drivers or just one car because they couldn't afford more. You can probably find some gems among those!
Zakspeed O.O
Seeing Fisichella in the background brings back some nostalgia, what a beast he was that season!
Yeah fisi was so underrated for his whole career, he dragged woeful machinery to positions it didn't deserve. Winning in 03 Jordan, almost winning in a force India, getting a few podiums in the 2000 benetton.
@@my_4_brain_cells damn straight my man
Fisi was my guy as a kid.
Such a great idea for a video. Really great.
I remember the Forti being 12 seconds off in Brazil. It was pretty crazy right before the 107% rule came along.
It was at that point during the 1995 season that the FIA got fed up of backmarker teams being so far off the pace that they had no choice but to introduce the 107% qualifying rule which forced backmarker teams to be more competitive
@@AdamTheMan1993 yep, and it’s that rule that led us to today where the f1 cars are so evenly matched they can barely pass each other. Couple that with the ultra reliability stopping almost any DNF results… F1 became a bit predictable.
@@AdamTheMan1993 It wasn't really aimed at backmarker teams as much as it was aimed at backmarker drivers. FOM was alright having Pacific with Montermini and Gachot struggling at the very back, it was Pacific (then Minardi) with Lavaggi and Forti with Diniz that caused them to act. Ironically, Diniz became quite competitive a few years down the line.
Even their old justification was something like 'a well-prepared team with a worthy driver can stay within 107%'
They might as well have just painted the whole car blue so it tells the others what to do when approaching it, since it won't have to slow down to let them pass.
"They often say he drives like he's going backwards, now he's putting it into practice!"
I remember going along to the launch at the Hilton in London. I don't think the car had ever taken a corner till it turned right at turn one at Albert Park on Friday practice.
The very first racing game I owned myself was F1 World Grand Prix on the N64, which was essentially F1 '97. I have fond memories of the crazy looking X-Wing Tyrell and unlocking the uber-fast 'Gold' car that was hilarious to drive round old Hockenheim. In terms of other cars to race on the Sim; it's not a terrible car, but someone MUST have done the legend that is the Tyrell P.34. Surely. Please?
Oh man I started with that too, I was 5 or 6 though and could not figure out how to race properly. Fun but a bit more difficult than Super Mario 64..
I tried to drive/behave like the AI cars. Ofc I wasn't able to :D The Scenario Mode was amazing though! The music to create atmosphere as well, think I'd get goose bumps hearing it!
@@peterdaviesracing I remember trying for aaaaages trying to win on the Damon Hill at Hungary scenario.
@@Skasaha_ You could go as fast as you still could at the beginning, the criticial part was when you were finally stuck in one gear towards the end of the final lap. You simply had to keep looking backwards to see which way "Williams Driver Number One" tried to pass and immediately block all the way up to the finish line :D
I can't remember if it's a paid mod or not, but I can confirm that the P34 definitely exists for AC! I'm not real good with it, but it's definitely fun to drive!
I designed & fitted the graphics on that at the Lola Factory in Huntingdon.
Hmm... I think in terms of sheer bloody awfulness, the Andrea Moda S291-Judd from 1992 or the Life L190 from 1990 might be good choices to drive next in a virtual "How bad was it?" context. Like with the Lola in this video, there would have to be some mods to create them from the ground up though...
Great content as always Jimmer.
If the Moda was prepared by people who knew what they were doing, it would have had no problem trouncing the Brabhams in 1992, as proven by Simtek taking that same chassis and managing to look respectable 2 years later.
It was the utter incompetence of Sassetti and his team that made the Moda look almost as bad as Life.
I'm not sure there's any simulators up to the challenge of simulating the sheer incompetence of their engineers and management.
That chassis was not that bad. Same for the engine and the drivers. The problem was... Everything else.
The Andrea Moda qualified for a race surprisingly
clearly our jimbo have never hear of the Life F1 and their w12 engine
The biggest highlight the Life F1 had was when they were actually shown preparing the car in the pits at spa in 1990 and murray walker commented about how they were trying to put some life back in the car by changing the spark plugs and james hunt deadpanned "they'd be better off throwing coins in a wishing well".
TFW this was a chassis that was probably based on the CART cars at the time. I mean just look at that 1995 concept. Think of it this way, They were basically the Haas of their time which is essentially Haas Dallara
Part of the chassis was based on a F3000 car. The F3000 what's one class lower than F1. This in combination with the slow engine ment that Lola was doomed from the start of the season. Lola entered (I believe) 2 races before they got bankrupt.
@@surgemeister182 yeah, the Lola was the only car still running a V8 at the time
@@simoneburini4036, the Minardis and Tyrrells were also running V8s at this point.
@@nathanpangilinan4397 you're right
I loved that livery and still do. I still blame Mastercard for that car. What if they gotten their extra year
It certainly wouldn't have been 11 seconds down, that's for sure.
Gotta love corporate greed...
Especially the fact that Mastercard weren't really funding it so much as administering a crowdfunding scheme.
Wasn't that the Car that only took part in Melbourne, didn't qualify and then never again?
Yep
Correct. Then the team showed up to Brazil for round 2, and thats when they shut the team down. Didn’t run a single lap there from what I know
As Jimmer explained in the video...
@@malthuswasright at the very start…….
The UK had Woolworths? Damn, the more you know.
Damn I didn't even know Woolworths was closed cause it seems to still exist here in South Africa
Still faster than the Life F1 car from 1990.
And better to drive than the Andrea Moda F1 car from 1992
that is the car I thought of too when thinking what was worse than the Lola... and still a semi serious idea of a car.
@@bakayarou023 Especially if you were the Stig..
@@bakayarou023 A hill I'm more than willing to die on is the Moda not being that bad, rather the team being extremely incompetent. I mean, Moreno managed to qualify it in Monaco and came very close in both Hungary and Germany.
McCarthy... well, good PR and nothing more. Man never won a single professional car race in his life, not even in Formula Ford.
The Lola Mastercard, otherwise known as The Rolling Blue Flag.
Still has that eye-catching livery - if the definition of "eye-catching" in the dictionary is AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH MY EYES HAVE MELTED!!!!!!!!
Which it is, in the Coventry English Dictionary.
Jim I really think you should consider commenting for F1 because when you get excited you get very Murray Walker ish and that’s just one of the many things F1 needs at the moment.
So come on everyone let’s get a petition going for Jim to commentate F1!
Jimmy is genuinely a talented commentator. I’m surprised he hasn’t been picked up by any broadcasters. His GT sport commentary really brings the races to life
@@cooper512 exactly!
I genuinely believe he could bring the necessary life back to the commentary box.
Average race commentator age is over 50 I would say. So he’s still got time.
@@m.r.9127 but that’s exactly why life needs to be injected into it.
@@mavos1211 Jimmy and Brundle would be a legendary combo but I dont think Crofty & Brundle is lifeless, Crofty is just annoying sometimes.
Would love to see the ill fated McLaren Lamborghini being raced
'97 was the first F1 season I watched, at least in part. I had a newspaper clipping from the start of the season that listed all the teams and drivers, and I could never work out why I had absolutely zero recollection of Mastercard Lola. What a disaster of a team, I feel bad for the drivers, Sospiri in particular because by all accounts his junior career was pretty impressive.
Similar story for me, I got a guidebook to the season from a newsagents when the first race was here in Australia and it had info on Lola. I ended up not actually getting to watch the Albert Park race, so I was really confused when they weren't around for round 2.
Loved hearing about the legend of this team and car, and now being able to have a clear view of how substantially bad it all was.
Very educational and entertaining. Nice
it gets worse, the sponsorship money from mastercard was determined by the number of subscriptions to a mastercardclub and creditcard
I remember reading about the Lola Mastercard in the newspapers when they had an article showing all the cars of that year. I was so hyped and didn't understand why it wasn't on the grid race 1.
Remember the arcade mode in f1 97, was so much fun. That game was legendary I played it so much
A series about the worst ever F1 cars would be really cool to see. Everyone just races the fastest cars from any era, seeing the worst cars driven in sim would be so good!
They did test before the race, but it was all shambolic. There's a terrific Bring Back V10 podcast about the project! anyone interested, give it a go.
If only there was a ring that we can put this thing around so we can compare it to other cars like a modded MX-5 to gauge the real speed, or lack there of, of this legendary car.
We need to see Jimble in the Life car, or the Andrea Moda.
Perry's Andrea Mode with the steering rack that randomly jams
*Cough* Coloni-Subaru *cough*
The 1997 Australian GP was my first time at an F1 race! In real life Villeneuve qualified a staggering 1.7 seconds faster than second place Frentzen, on a bone dry track. Even back then this was unheard of. Eighth place Jean Alesi was more than three seconds slower. JV's pole made the Lola drivers look glacial though they were still outside 107% of Frentzen's time.
Lola had hoped to run their V10 but ended up using the same V8 engines as Forti from the year before.
From memory the Formula Holden cars supporting the event in that era were lapping the circuit in the low 1:50s.
I've always liked the Lola Mastercard livery. It'll forever baffle me why Mastercard couldn't wait until 1998, especially because of the massive rule changes that were about to be introduced - narrower cars and grooved tyres.
🎵I crashed it in a wall down in Albert Park,
Where you drink Foster's and it tastes just like Coca-Cola, C-O-L-A Cola,
They walked up and asked if I wanted a drive,
I asked the team name, and in a dark brown voice they said Lola, L-O-L-A Lola, Lo-lo-lo-lo-Lola. "🎵
A couple of minor historical points.
Lola didn't EVER plan to race in 1997. Their plan was always to enter in 1998 until Mastercard pulled the stroke of insisting they rain in the 97 season or they'd pull backing, despite Eric Broadley's objections. Lola thus had only just started developing the car assuming they had a year to get it perfect, and then had to get it designed, built and out the door in a matter of weeks.
Also they did indeed make it to Brazil and both cars were assembled and sitting in the garage ready for practice when the funding collapsed and the team more-or-less folded on the spot.
As an Australian, I was incredibly confused when Jimmer said Woolworths!
I was going to make a joke about being beaten by Jos Verstappen, but that would be insensitive to his ex-wives.
woolies (Woolworths) is still a thing over here in Australia, its arguably the biggest supermarket chain in Australia :)
My dad drove this IRL in 2021. While it's a slow F1 car, the fekker moooves! We had a blast in Denmark with this car.
I like how when you pass the starting grid you see a tire marks along the whole straight.
It should be noted that while the Lola was actually pretty much dialled in im terms of the lap times compared to the actual qualifying from the Australian GP in 1997, HHF was seven seconds quicker than Villeneuve’s real-life pole time.
Yeeee I noticed that lmao
Funny how this is recommended to me just days after Lola's announcement returning to racing in Formula E
I bet little Jimmy when he played this car in 97, thought he was shit at the game instead of the car.
The strange thing is this mod makes the car simultaneously worse and better than it actually was. The car is a bit too far off of the pace compared to where the real thing was... but at the same time it also doesn't have the two strangest issues the Lola had:
- The gearshift being chronically slow.
- The rear suspension being poorly made and directly in the path of the exhausts causing it to heat up so much it began to soften and bend significantly under load after several laps.
Fun video start to finish!
Please do Andrea Moda, the McCarthy "chassis" specifically.
1:29 no need to call me out like that lmao
RIP WOOLYS gone but never forgotten, top video as always jimmer
"arrows next slowest car...." meanwhile in Minardi: YES.
Or Tyrrell, which scored its last points thanks to a non-stopping Salo at Monaco, but otherwise busy with Minardi at the back.
Man I love your content! Keep up the good work jimmer. You can really see that there is some work going into your vids
I only just realised we named our 'special' chicken Lola 😅 not knowing the history of this car haha
If Mastercard weren't so heavily pushing the team to enter in 1997, I think Lola would've been a decent F1 team probably mid pack but still better than what we got. And poor Vincenzo Sospiri, he was described by Michael Schumacher as "My hero. He and Senna inspired me so much in Karting." And all he got to showcase his talent in F1 was this abomination of a car.
It's like driving a F2 car with last race's tires in a modern F1 race
13:10 **Look at rear view mirror**
Mika: "Jimmy Broadbent, the car who lived, come to die!"
11:05 I can think of multiple, looking forward to it. Honda's first F1 outing which lit like a matchstick, Super Arrows--I mean Super Aguri, Life and Coloni Subaru trying to run engines that were at least 100 horsepower short from the rest of the field, etc etc etc.
This car could have been great, but MasterCard forced Lola to get it out a year earlier then they wanted
Jarno Opmeer's next video: last to first challenge in a Lola at Monaco
From Wikipedia: "Lola were compelled to use the Ford ECA Zetec-R V8 engine, the same specification V8 as used by the Forti team in the 1996 season"
Who remembers actually seeing Jimmy play SROL 97 tho
The amount the wheel moved going straight in was just crazy. Also when you hit curbs, that's a horrid chassis.
Drive the last H manual shifter F1 car, the 1995 Forti FG01.
And of course, you should do it with a H Manual shifter.
ASR is currently creating high quality mods of the entire 91 F1 season. That includes the shit cars (Fondmetal, Brabham, Modena [pseudo factory Lamborghini team] etc...) he's currently developing the Coloni too, which in 1992 would become the infamous Andrea Moda.
Oh and the Fondmetal is particularly horrible...
@@jamescampbell1070 Which is funny, as the '92 car showed promise IIRC. At least the design idea seemed to go the right way aerodynamically as Tarquini had some decent Q sessions, but the team didn't have the budget to develop the car and it would break down too often.
The '91 Brabham got its shit together to score points though, if you want a '91 example, take the small AGS team. Or Footwork, trying to recover from the Porsche mistake. Or Ligier with it's overweight engine and chassis I think. Even Leyton House(March) fell back that year and scored like one point.
Funnily enough here in Australia we still have Woolworths or "Woolies" haha
Bring back a classic F1 Team: $20,000,000
Travel to Australia for the opening race: $5,000,000
End up slower than the safety car: Priceless!
There are fast cars out there, but for everyone else there is MasterCard.
jokes on you
i still have woolies at my local shops
If you want a challenge with terrible F1 cars, drive the Forti in my F1 1996 mod for rF2 on Steam Workshop. I literally kept taking off downforce until I matched the lap times with what they were doing (based on Brazil 1996), to the point where it's basically undrivable :| Good fun though.
The mighty Life W12 was
"This Is One Of The WORST F1 Cars Ever Made"
BRM H16 - hold my beer.......
Greatest F1 team combo
Team principal: Andrea Sassetti
Chassis: Lola T97/30
Engine: Life W12
Drivers: J.D.Deletraz & Y.Ide
That little book kept me quiet for hours. Then F1 98 came out (worst sequel ever) and it just had instruction for the controller on the back of the box 😔
Yeah. 98 was oooof
The Life L190: Slow down Lola Mastercard, please.
imagine the Lola somehow fluking pole at Monaco and just holding the entire field up for the race.
I'm pretty sure the fault is within the driver
A few people asking: what time period would this car be compettitve in? The answer is probably some time around 1979-80. They were at 113% of the pole time in Melbourne. If we look at pole times at Monaco, 113% of the 1997 pole time is around the 1978 pole time. However in 1978 the Nouvelle Chicane hadn't been installed yet so the track was a bit quicker; therefore it's likely that the Lola was probably half a second to a second quicker than those cars, so add another year or so on to compensate...
F1 in the 90's was filled with teams like this, that were hilariously uncompetitive
It's crazy to think that one of the worst F1 cars that is 25 years old is still 13 seconds a lap quicker then a modern Supercars touring car (Scott McLaughlin set a record lap in qualifying of a 1:53.8 in his Penske mustang) it just shows how fast F1 cars really are.
Alternative title: Formula 2 car vs F1 car
only 1 car worse? oh jimmers your innocence is heart warming
“Jarno Opmeer last to first in Jimmy’s homemade Lola”
I think what surprises me. Is Hass came right out and said we will be slow, we are putting in the bare minimum we can this year so we can put all resources for the new 2022 car. And then fans were surprised they were slow. 2021 was meant to be a right off year for Hass. If Hass come out in 2022 and is bad that is the real issue, but 2021 was real no indication how the team will do in the future. If what they said is true, Hass could be the most improved team for 2022. Though with the new rules they also could have completely missed the mark.
0:49 we got woolies in Australia now. get yoinked
Ngl as an Aussie it felt weird of him doing a "r.i.p Woolies"
If Rick Ware Racing was in F1:
It's like watching an LMP1 passing GTE cars
I look forward to seeing Jimmy do this in 2046 doing this with the 2021 Haas
Have you ever raced the Lienz Rally circuit with an F1 car? It's hilarious.
A friend of mine worked on the graphics for F1 97 :D
Me an Australian. With Woolworths being the dominant grocery store
But can it lap the nurburgring faster than a the top gear super van?
I don't know if it's been pointed out before but Jimmy's starting to sound a bit like Murray Walker, bit of a similar cadence and the mic helps quite a bit too.
Jimmy's pointed it out himself before, it's kinda what he aims for
11:10 so you're telling me there's gonna be a video about the Life L190?!
😂😂 I heard stories that the Life car would struggle to compete against F3000 cars (now F2). Thankfully pre qualifying was a thing back then
I thought there was a team/car worse. Couldn't remember if it was Life or Forty.
@@josephernest91 the Forti was bad, the kinda of HRT bad
But Life was completely on another level