WTF Happened to Mastercard Lola (Worst Formula 1 Team Ever?)
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2019
- Back in April 2018, I labelled Andrea Moda as the worst Formula 1 team of all time. Were they, though? Or was there perhaps an even worse team?
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#F1 #Formula1 #MastercardLola #Mastercard #Lola #WorstF1Team
Moral of the story: Don't let a company with no knowledge of motorsport be your title sponsor
Yeah. I get a lot of money goes into these things, but holy shit, if a sponsor said we demand this, when realistically it’s impossible, I’d tell them to take a hike, and if isn’t to be, it isn’t to be.
Also moral of the story: get Lance Stroll so his dad can financially bail you out.
If MasterCard really wanted to enter Formula One, they could've easilly sponsored one of the already existing midfield teams like Arrows or Tyrrell.
Hmmm I believe a similar Storey come by this past season
@@ivaneurope MasterCard did sign a sponsorship deal with the Jordan team during the 1997 season which lasted until the end of 2001
Yeah, real smart to force a team to do everything in 4 months to enter a season when the next year the rules change and they have to redesign the car from the ground up. This is the typical executives decision made by people that have no idea what they are doing.
even our FSAE team with 19 technical guys had to work on our car in 5 months target, we don't even make the engine ourselves, making F1 cars in 4 months with making their engine from the ground up, that's insane target
Tbf even building not only the car, but the engine as well for 2 years is insanely fast and while possible still very hard to do
If You Are Looking To Start A F1 Team Don't Sign Mastercard As Your Title Sponsor Because They Will Just Ruin Your Chances To Success Like How They Did To Lola...
“They had a rookie in one seat and a tosser in the other.” Couldn’t have said it better myself
Literally. At BAR, where they needed his cash despite him being slow and crashing quite a lot, they rearranged the letters of his name on the car to say TOSSER.
Tosser is an anagram of Rosset x3
@@GuzziHeroV50 BAR? What's BAR?
@@akula966 bar is british america racing team ( in 2000 bar rename is bar honda)
@@theuser698 Please pardon my itch to correct you, but British American Tobacco (BAT) bought Tyrrell ahead of the 1998 season. Their insistence on hiring Ricardo "Tosser" Rosset over a certain Jos Verstappen was, among other things I'm sure, drove Ken Tyrrell away from the grid that year.
The 1st season of BAR (British American Racing) was in 1999, where they scored a fantastically sweet FA. Their best finish that year was Mika Salo's 7th place at Imola (replacing an injured Ricardo Zonta) when the top 6 scored points.
The turn of the millennium, & the arrival of Honda engines, saw a drastic upturn in the team's competitiveness thereafter.
I worked for Lola when Eric Broadley decided to take the company back into F1. The deal with Mastercard was a handshake deal done in early November 1996, the whole project was a disaster from the start. The car didn't see a wind tunnel until the Saturday of Melbourne qualiy, yes that's right it was designed old school by artistic sculpting of the model and then parts were made before the wind tunnel had even been fired up it was ridiculously tight/impossible. The whole project was doomed to fail, sadly it was the end of Lola Cars ltd. until Martin Birrane bought the company and than continued to run it as a hobby until he ran out of will power/money to fund it.
The car only did a test in Silverstone and it was so bad the exhaust was softening the rear suspension which meant the car couldn't be driven in a straight line (until it was fixed!). As you said though, it was an impossible task to get a car designed from November and built and competitive in March, half the car was a F3000 car.
damn that's tough
Actually, they probably would've been better off using a tried and true F3000 car altogether. At least it would've been reliable.
@@hugolafhugolaf Or They Could Have Just Raced In F3000 Because There Is Much Less Races Which Means Much More Time.
@@enersilver2946Formula 2 or 3 maybe fit for this.
@@dhupeeMastercard Lola fits only for Formula 2 or Rallycross.
Still remember this gem of a quote from Martin Brundle.
Murray Walker: People here are really debating whether Ricardo Rosset is Formula 1 material...
Martin: That isn’t much of a debate Murray...
Doubt he’d get away with it now which is a shame, I miss the more brutal honesty of Brundle.
Oh man I remember that burn from a long ass time ago. Have you see the video of Brundle taking Murray Walker in the two seater McLaren Mercedes F1?
The very words Martin Brundle used were:"Well, it's a fairly short debate Murray..."
Murray Walker was so surprised by Brundle's funny reply that he was silent for a while and then tried to say something to move on but obviously struggled with keeping his laughter in. "Err...(chuckles) end of message... (short giggle)... and (half-laughing) three minutes to go! "
Brundle's reply wasn't brutally honest but clearly sardonic. The way he used *fairly* short to describe this obvious non-existing debate whether or not Rosset is F1 material is polite in itself and "fairly neutral" (see I did it too) but in the context it obviously is a witty retort both meant to end Murray's obviously sarcastic slander and to agree with him by focusing on this "debate".
A brutally honest reply would simply have been:"Rosset has no business in F1 and he's wasting everybody's time with these inept antics of his." Criticizing him personally without any pretenses of being polite is the definition of brutally honest.
That's the equivalent of James Hunt's 'bull****' remark.
Ah the "tosser" Rosset - the driver that pushed Ken Tyrrell away from the team he built. Long story short Tyrrell didn't like him and wanted Jos Verstappen to be in the seat, but since British American Tobacco were calling the shots the choose Rosset forcing Tyrrell to quit. And Rosset failed to qualify 5 times in 1998.
Haha, I remember him turning his attention to Gaston Mazzacane on a couple of occasions post the Rosset era.
Once when he wouldnt yield to Michael Schumacher who was lapping him. "Well that was quite frankly pathetic driving"
And again, commenting on one driver who had had a difficult pit stop, "The only guy behind him now is Mazzacane and he couldnt drive a nail into some plywood"
I think they would be good if they enter in 1998.
MasterCard screwed it up
Perhaps. But, by the sounds of things, Mastercard were gonna be hard to deal with anyway. Who knows?
Lola had intended to enter the 1998 season, but MasterCard forced them to compete in 1997. So if they had been given the chance I think they'd have got to 106% of the pole time in Australia 1998
@@burkezillar Chassis wise I agree, but engine wise I don't. It's very very hard to build a competitive F1 engine, just look at established car brands like Subaru and Lambo, who failed, let alone Lola who weren't much known for their engine manufacturing....also keep in mind that engines took quite a step in 98, the Mercedes was a beast and Ferrari cranked it up too, the championship winning Renault engine from 97 was nowhere in 98 as a rebranded Mechachrome... :)
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus Mechachrome is a good name
@@marcusaureliusantoninusaug2161 By which time of course it was 1 year behind...
i almost feel bad for the team, they were set up to fail from the start.
F1 was never a good place to start off
Should've started somewhere else tbh
@@johnbacon4997 champ car would have been a safer option maybe Nascar
Or In The IRL/NTT IndyCar Series Maybe.
@@johnbacon4997 It's not exactly like Lola were nobodies. These guys were bigger than Dallara at the time, and already had experience building Formula, Indy, Can-Am, Prototype, and Sports Cars for like, decades.
They just got dicked over by MasterCard
Mastercard: *Shoots Lola by setting an impossible goal*
Mastercard: "Who could have done this?"
Mastercard Lola its James.
This reminds me of an Indycar story
In 2019 there was a startup team called Juncos Racing, and they had 1 car.
The week before the Indy 500, the team loses their sponsorships.
They barely make qualifying (I think they pushed Alonso out of the race).
2 days before the race, the driver crashes in practice. They now have no money or car.
Because they looked like a Cinderella story waiting to happen, the team manages to get some sponsors and fix their car.
Everyone is excited to see how they do.
They crash out about a quarter into the race.
Alonso?? Not driving for McLaren?m
Alonso drive for carlin in indy 500 iirc (with mclaren badge)
They were 113% from the pole time. Getting on for Life levels of poorness.
*Life set a prequalifying record of ALMOST 8 MINUTES at Imola:* get on my level n00bs
Liam Booth life were 1000% off the poletime 😂
@@michaelskoomamacher5652 I think they also did a time in the 4 minute range at Mexico as well. This Lola team look like multiple world champions compared to them though that’s a bar of the lowest height to clear admittedly
@@michaelskoomamacher5652 lola was noobs.
@@michaelskoomamacher5652 Life was on a truck that time!
As a South African your Zuma joke had me crying laughing. Shot for that one.
Yoh saaaaaame!
I wasn’t expecting it all which made it so much funnier😂😂😂
me too i laughed away when i heard it
Same!!
Honestly just recently got into f1 and your videos make me love the racing world even more. Keep up the good work.
From Dublin, Ireland
Thanks, mate! 🙂
I second this statement from the States! 😊👏🏼🇺🇲
i am italian, did you know that "Sospiri" means "sigh"?
Now you do.
It's how he felt after MasterCard Lola went belly up
The no air box thing in 1995 wasn’t illegal and actually was intentional - the initial plan for 1995 post-San Marino was to ban air boxes and downsize the engines to 3 litres to reduce powers but the teams got them to eliminate the air box ban since the engine downsize would be enough - it wasn’t but then they started doing other things to slow the cars down.
Didn't know about that (obviously) - thanks for the fact check on that! :)
Banning the airbox would take away a great space for sponsors
@@thejoshrevell no worries - just thought that I'd clarify that one since its a common misconception about that Lola test car and actually something that makes it a more interesting car since all F1 cars could have looked like it in 1995
@@luisclaudiofugolin6250 that's one of the main reasons why they didn't do it: and honestly it was probably added to the regulations as a thing that they could take out to get teams to agree to 3 litre engines for 1995: the FIA have history at passing very restrictive rules with extreme things that they water down to get the things that they want done done
I actually think that getting rid of the airbox would help with the looks of the cars but I think that's me being an Indycar fan more than anything: classic CART-era no airbox cars are very good looking and the current generation IndyCar started looking a lot nicer when they ditched the airbox there as well.
‘Heinz-Herald Hopeless’
XD
The same Frentzen who actually WON a race that year...
@@allthekingshorses7178 Frank Williams thought that hopeless was better than Damon Hill....
The Bill Clinton line really threw me off
Love the old-school style graphics for the qualifying times! Your videos showed up in my recommendations and I'm really enjoying your style!
I would have loved to see what happened if Mastercard allowed them to enter in 1998 as planned. That was the year of the new regs, with skinny cars and grooved tyres. It would have mixed the order up a bit and given Lola more of a chance.
And they wouldn't have been stuck with that awful Ford V8.
It was an ideal time to come in but even then I think Lola was doomed. They has a sponsor that just wasn't structured right for success with the unstable cash and clearly wrong ideas.
Midfield at best imo
They Would Have A Chance In The World Of F1 If Mastercard Hadn't Rushed Them To The 1997 F1 Grid When They Just Needed One More Year To Get Ready To Take The Grid.
Ur gonna explode in 2020,amazing content!
Thanks man! :)
I dont think so.
Oli Boy ok boomer
@@oliboy6204 This aged well....
Oli Boy dum dum lmao
You remind me of a NASCAR UA-camr named S1apSh0es. He basically talks about the past world of NASCAR in a mini documentary style and blew up in mid-2019. I see something similar to your channel in 2020.
His channel is awesome, and was awesome to see it blow up.
Agreed. I'm not a fan of NASCAR but the way S1apSh0es narrates his videos is great and sucks you in. Same with Josh. His presentation knocks it out of the park.
Mark Cunningham Josh’s channel is now blowing up too pol
Huh... I know very little about NASCAR but am slightly curious. Maybe a good place to start
Peachrocks5 It’s definitely worth at least giving it a try.
I remember i was a stupid kid at the time drooling over the blitz of f1... and i was a jacques villneuve fan if you can believe that... so i bought this paper that came with a brochure presenting the new f1 season... and they had the teams and tracks listed... this sort of thing was amazing before the era of the internet... and i noticed this team listed there but i never got to see them in a race... still memorable tho :)
When you consider that they basically had the same engine that your local taxi driver had under the bonnet of their Mondeo, they didn't do too badly, really...
That Stroll burn was top shelf 😂
Wow, this video solves the mystery confused me for years. I was a toddler in 97, and I saw this mastercard team in debut show. I must admit I kind liked the paint scheme of the team, so I really anticipated to see them in racing. I missed the opening race and found them not there when started watching from the second Grand Prix. For years I have not known why they disappeared, till today, thanks so much.
Just realized he uses bitmojis in his animations
*On the warm up lap*
Lola: I cant believe it we are only 5 seconds behind this lap!
Recently discovered this channel you deserve more notice!
Thanks for the support! :)
The Lola’s make the 2019 Williams seem like a Rokitship!
Look, I’m sorry but this quarantine has got me slowly turning insane
At least they could make the damn race's, and even scored a fucking point
@@megabutters9144 Yep, that is true.
Even With How Stupidly Slow They..
been binge watching your channel today, good luck on the 2020 my dudes
Thanks heaps! Looking forward to 2020. 🙂
I just realized I watched your first video a while ago and thinking what shit mic you had. Congrats dude I'll see you at 100k
Thanks, man! :)
4:27 - ROFL!! Thanks for the easter egg - your subs went up by 1. love from everyone in Cape Town, ZA.
Since lola in my country means grandma....
Mastercard Grandma 😅😅😅
Joshua Ayuban Philippines? I CAN FUCKING REL8 LMAOOO
And evan a grandma would be faster than them
@@souko6229 At least you know its from there 😂😂
@@kristianjerak8227 Lol sad 😂😂
Honestly mate, I am binge watching your videos. The content is purely amazing. You are absolutely brilliant and these videos seems like something that was made by a 500k+ youtuber. just subscribed, keep up the good work!
Damn dawg. Your videos are great! I love the quick little flashes you do. Beat around the bush *george bush 2 pops up.* Hilarious.
Thanks heaps, man! 🙂
Thanks for this. Added to my list of "F1 teams I'd never heard of". :)
Your videos are class mate, keep this up and this could be your career if it isn’t already
Cheers mate, v much enjoyed! "Bodywork that crumples if you so much as look at it" brilliant!
How the heck do you only have 5k subs? The quality of your content and delivery are worth many times that!
These videos are hilarious. Keep up the awesome work!
So lola build a 2019 williams😂
Sure you're underestimating Lola
Congrats you ve guessed it
No, it much worse than that, at least williams still qualify and race for all season and still score a point. Mastercard lola just go to qualifying in the first race, failed and then never compete again
I'm not sure about that statement, as the Williams cars were still able to keep within the 107% rule. To put it simply, Lola made a car that is WORSE than the FW42!
@@kevinhanandi true Lola also build Aikatsu Friends which were no more successful than Mastercard Lola 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like a safety car would mean Lola would barely be able to keep up.
Love these videos. I just subscribed. Thanks a lot and keep the vids coming.
Discoveres your channel 2 days ago at I believe 2500 subs, now you are already over 5k. Keep it up man!
Subbed at 13900. This is going to get big, wait for it
This sucks because that livery looked so good in 1997
I appreciate the Chillhop songs in the background🙏🏽
Great channel!! You’ll hit 100k subs by the end of 2020 👌🏼
Best channel I’ve come across in a very long time!
Awesome Channel! New subscriber here mate! 👊💪👍
Thanks man! :)
These videos are awesome. Please keep making content.
I remember Rosset turning up at Tyrell in 1998 and failing to beat the 107% time on more than one occasion. Even as a 10-year-old boy, I remember thinking I could drive faster than him.
That happened five times, including the season finale at Suzuka, where he apparently injured his elbow riding the roller coaster 🎢 at the circuit’s theme park. Meme material right there.
I never expected to see the NRL mentioned in an F1 video
This is the second video of yours I've seen and I'm loving it. Please can you leave the captions on screen a little longer? I can't read them before they vanish. Keep up the awesome work. All the best for 2020.
Thanks for the support! I've ditched those quick-fire captions, as they were a common complaint. :)
@@thejoshrevell I do love the captions, though, they make a great addition
To think Williams was a real competitor at one point is insane
Aww, Heinz-Harald ❤️😭
As a South African. I appreciate the Jab at Zuma.
Same here
Interesting. At the same time in 1997, Lola, which had been the dominant car in the USA's CART Indy Car series, came out with a new car that was more than one second a lap slower than the Reynards and Hondas. Early in the season at least two top teams bailed on the Lolas causing a lotto embarrassment. I wonder if trying to develop both of these cars at the same time was a big factor in both cases.
This is easing my winter break misery. You are going to do well, trust me.
Hi Josh. I’m a recent subscriber, and I just wanted to say I’m a big fan. I love your knowledge of the sport, and your sense of humour to go with your knowledge.
BTW, will there be a WTF video for Heinz-Harold Hopeless?
Wow I can’t believe you are the one who made the Andrea moda video! You have definitely evolved & it’s been a long time since I watched that
This is awesome keep these vids commin
Love your channel and you so much
You're really underrated, subbed and turned on the bell
I found your channel today! I've been bingewatching all day, and it's amazing to see that only today you went from like 7000 subs tot 8250 at this moment. You're going to explode man! Enjoy your christmas and keep it coming!
I’m rewatching your videos seeing there’s no F1 😭😭😭😭😏
Great content, I hope you’ll do a What the *quack* happened to Pastor Maldonado
Mate amazing content and please make a video about "wtf happened to ricardo rosset"
If Eric Broadley had put his foot down and told Master card "No, we will not enter in 1997. This is simply not possible. We are only prepared to join in 1998 and if you have an issue with that, we will go find sponsorship elsewhere." Yeah they'd be back in that dire financial situation but getting money should've been the least of his worries. Ensuring his F1 project would be able to make it to the grid for 1998 or 1999 should've been more important and im sure he could've found at least a few other sponsors willing to fund his outfit. Instead, he jumped at the first chance he got and when the demands were made, he whimpered and tried to do the impossible
Still one of the coolest liveries in F1 though...
When I started to watch this video you had 16.000 Subs, now you have 17.200. Damn Congratulations
21.1 k
What’s the name of the song that’s in the outro? The song at the end is really catchy. I love this channel.
Josh really loving your vids, totally awesome, yes these were worse than Moda imho completely agree - I also remember the cutting comments of Brundle and Walker, too really funny! possibly Fondmetal is also worse than Moda? what dya think?
They made their first and only race appearance at Melbourne but sadly both failed to qualify and before Brazilian Grand Prix the team collapsed and were gone for good
I work in F1 and I think your videos are funny af😂😂😂😂😂😂
GamerFrancis TV thankfully not haha
Lola even tried their hand in rowing, buying out boat manufacturer Aylings and giving the promise of bringing F1 tech to rowing. Then promptly killing the company because they had no clue what they were doing.
That 1.5 years old Xbox 360 avatar of Josh looks weirdly unsettling now. (But that's fine. Shows how much the channel improved!)
The last josh revell bitmoji video
I was pleasantly drifting off to sleep with this on, and then that damn beep at the end woke me right back up. Not cool!
Great channel.
Thanks heaps! :)
@@thejoshrevell Soon be at 10k subs mate keep going, here is another rich energy car vid.... Smith and Sniff makes me laugh.... ua-cam.com/video/xg_w5Db8p3U/v-deo.html
I love your Aussie content. Ie Daly Cherry-Evans backflip and DJR Team Penske FGX Falcon
What did I get straight after watching this video? An ad for Mastercard, of course.
Apparently Lola will be back in business this year, so that's neat.
Crazy to think that Lola is coming back to racing in Formula E.
Fun fact: lola cars was founded in a small town called Huntingdon (funnily enough where i live)
My brother did some work experience for Lola in Huntingdon when he was a teenager. By that point the company weren't far from disappearing. This story is so sad and it is totally Mastercard's fault.
What was the 1998 date a year for LoLA? Maybe I missed something :/ Garage closed on them at the first race of the 1997 season? Didnt it? Also sadly worth a mention the first quali of the 1997 season Villeneuve was well over a second faster than his teammate who qualified in 2nd... Tough ask for a new team lol
The real reason the '95 T95/30 didn't have an airbox was because the FIA was proposing to ban them after the Senna accident to reduce speeds. There was a lot of speculation about regulation changes like that when the car was being developed, which is why it looks so odd. They kept trying to change separate bits to make it legal.
Although Mastercard helped lead to the demise of the team, I put the majority of the blame on Lola's leadership. When it comes to experts of something technical working with an outside company providing sponsorship or any sort of money, it's the absolute unquestioned responsibility of the technical experts to convince the sponsors of the realities of that technical thing. Not in how it _works_ , but in what the results will be if they try to half-ass it.
It's clear to me, as someone who has had to have some pretty blunt and straightforward talks with higher-ups in organizations who were naively optimistic about something (completely unrelated industry to motorsports), that what Mastercard was asking of Lola was not simply a bad idea, but would result in a complete failure of all of the investments already put forward. Lola's leadership needed to beat Mastercard over the head with a trashcan lid until this message was fully received. This did not happen, and the team failed because of the ineptitude of Lola's leadership. If you're a manager, you have to know when to be exceptionally blunt with people. If Lola's managers had managed to do this, they might not have closed as quickly as they did.
Mastercard made a stupid decision. Lola's leadership failed to correct that stupid decision.
Mastercard after read your opinion :
See, nobody cares
Althought this following statement is more evident in 2019-2020 than it was back then, if a company builds a car that is even more worse than the 2019 Williams FW42 car, that kinda says a lot about the team.
You mention Rosset... his Monaco crash is perhaps the greatest act of plebbery I have ever seen.. also honourable mention Esteban Tuero.
Why people think Tuero was bad? I never saw any reason for that.
good to hear what actually happened
Fun fact about Ricardo Rosset: later he became winner of the Porsche GT3 Cup in Brazil. He was the only professional driver on a lineup of amateur rich people, in races where everyone who was on 1st place spun themselves every five laps.
2nd fun fact: Every team in F1 he did drive, that team didn't race next season (Raced for Footwork in 1996, Lola 1997, Tyrrell 1998, all of these teams didn't race in next seasons)
That cherry evens titans reference 😂
Rest In Peace Lola, they were a pretty awesome company
I just wanted to say keep the videos coming. You make me laugh every time #Fuuuunnddinnng! especially made me laugh.
My friends dad used to work for them and he said the car was always bad
Following before this channel boom
DCE backflipping turned out to be a good thing though. I mean, if you had a choice between playing for Manly and playing for the Titans.....
One club has played in at least one Grand Final every decade from the 1950s. And they've won at least one premiership every decade since the 1970s. They are also the only pre-1982 club never to finish last (though they have gotten close on occasion). The other is in Australia's national sports team graveyard and is likely never to win anything other than having the best small stadium.
Does anyone know what happened to the Lola car that was used this seaso? I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone buy it or was it put into a museum?
That random Jacob Zuma reference 😂🤣
That 1995 test car looks like they fogot they werent trying to build it for CART/Indycar and for F1 instead.