Still don't understand Airsoft being limited to 175fps in SA yet we're free to just mod these gel blasters to double that. At this point the only difference is the ammo and at 300fps it's gonna hurt if it's a gel ball or solid bead
@@SEEYAIAYE Yeah that is strange, I was not even aware of the 175fps limit, which is ridiculously low. I wish they would just replicate the UKs rules for a starting point and base it off a joule limit.
@@IIIIRokzIIII Only reason why Gel Blasters are taking off here in SA is because Airsoft isn't even worth the bother at the moment. Ironic that the main reason it was banned in the first place is because of the replica firearms act yet some of these blasters look pretty bloody convincing.
@@SEEYAIAYE Oh yer for sure, I am very appreciative that we have blasters available to us now (I'm QLD). Hopefully this will prove that airsoft would prove no threat and benefit the community. But that's only if idiots don't wreck it for us by doing stupid shit in public. Fingers crossed for both 'normal' states haha.
I mean the gearbox is almost identical to an airsoft one. So why isn't it working for you? AEG is pretty reliable, have you customised the gearbox? You probably have not shimmed properly...... The gearbox is LITERALLY the same as an AEG, the only different is probably the nozzle head.
I'd like to know as well. But then again it could just be Guido not trying to say he's "the best" like a lot of other channels do when they are part of a niche market.
loving the vids. I have an ldt 416d and don't know where to go with the upgrades. the fps is around 300- 320 but seems wildly inaccurate compared to my gen9. are the gearbox internals interchangeable between the 2? do u sell upgrades for ldt hk?
I call bullshit on the metal gearbox not being as good as nylon. I had a nylon box for less than a week, the plunger melted to it before getting through a single Magazine. I've never had that kind of trouble with my metal one, and it's still going strong months later.
Thanks for the clip LG & enjoy the coffee. Taking on board your feedback on going to circa 350fps and maybe slightly above what’s the best way to get a Gen 9 up to that FPS? -I’ve got an upgraded 1.3 spring, 11v batt & steel barrel. -I ordered the Gen 9 upgrade kit from Gel ball mod just before seeing your vid the other day showing the cylinder not fitting in the housing so apart from using the gears not sure what else to do? -what size bruise master barrel should I get to fit? -what over mods to get it there? Eg Upgraded Wiring (could you send link example to buy?)....Mosfet switch is this from air soft sites (could give an example link to buy?) Thanks Paul
You don't really need MOSFET unless you are burning out your trigger contacts. And you might get lucky with the gen 9 kit because i think they fixed it. You should be able to hit 350 pretty easy with 1.4mm spring.
Ok thanks LG. FYI with your skills if your were able to build a reliable custom moded LG blaster hitting at 350 FPS plus there would be a very strong market for it, myself included. Thanks again
Titanium gears looking at upgrade to a J10 ACR will you recommend the best set up for it found a 170m/s or 557fps but it don't look good if this is current you need airsoft parts??????? Shshshs what about gas as the M203 grenade luncher attachments airsoft could if used gel be ok for use hear?????? Otherwise I'll be modifing the spring and dual chamber for a full load shoot that took me a second😆.👍
Too much side thrust with the helical gears for those bearings. The housings aren't really designed for it either. Straight cut gears are always better, when noise isn't an issue.
M150 is way heavier than a 1.5 spring. M150 means 150m per second thats how they rate them in airsoft and being this shs m150 spring is an airsoft spring
i wonder what happen if we give this insane fps with pretty long barrel, till it reach sweet ratio? Does it gonna be double distance & accuracy, then added hop up, oh boy
And the bent plate you stripped the gears and the spring was to much on the ball sling and bent the plate got a ACR upgrade want the 170M nice. (Did you do a AOC check????)
Man you've posted some fucking good vids lately. My son and I just got our first m4 and ordered the basic upgrades. Would not have found this fantastic weekend fun time if not for your channel. Thanks heaps mate. Very informative. Btw which state or territory are you In? Link to your shop?
if u're using gen8 gearbox,usually fits any even from airsoft parts,as well as the piston..i bought my parts from aeg and installed it in my gen8,the best result when using mushroom type piston head!give u better results!
@@Rreeve87 apparently Rx Ak47 has a different type of gearbox since it has a blowback mechanism built in. I really wouldnt know how to differentiate between a gen8 or gen9 to an rx ak47 cylinder...is it of the same size or is it different altogether?
@@oneofthechosen874 for gen 8 and gen9 parts like gears,tappet,pistons,cylinder head and nozzol are the same,only motors are diff..now i recently installed silent bearing piston cylinder head kit(mushroom type) from and airsoft AEG parts and v2 mag motor .the result was amazing shooting was better then using dual oring piston. and motor mag result was 3x better then the standard motor,
So I watched your Mk14 Mod1 and was so thoroughly impressed I instantly subscribed and love your content, if it wouldn't be a hassle if really appreciate a parts list for the build or contact with you on a commission for one to be built?
My all metal M4 ( M4 undertaker at GBU) shoot 380fps, all metal gears, V2 12;1 gear ration, 10in handrail , simple looking, wanted power accuracy (a sleeper) 110m spring , razor hope up etc,). BUT THE GEL BALLS ARE 80% exploding. Aka, beast gel balls when firing……… when it works 35m dead straight hard hitting, but what’s the point when most explode !!!!! why is this happening please and what can I do to fix it. I’m happy to pay to send to you to make a video {lol}…………… help snd advise!!!! Warm regards stay safe and healthy 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺
This was the first video i watched of your channel, coming back to it now after having a ton of gelblaster upgrading experience, im confused why you were getting 380 - 500 on a M150. I run a M120 in my modified vector and punch around the 450s
So I'm guessing the generic gears stripped too? No doubt you already know but stainless oil-less bushings are needed for heavy springs. Depending how much you compress the spring with bearings (front only or front and rear) and as long as volume ratios stay within tolerance for barrel size, you might find short stroking necessary. I have a set of 13:1 gears in a nylon frame shortstroked by 2 teeth, 7.1 bore 27.5cm barrel and 1.4 spring. Didn't bother taking teeth from plunger. Works well, though I haven't tried a 1.5mm spring in it as once my gears are had it my buget won't allow another set in a hurry. Killed the first set of generic gears I tried the 1.5 on which is why I went the route of short stroking on the expensive gears.
Wow, must have been the bearing failure that caused the damage then. I stripped generic gears on the first trigger pull with a 1.5mm spring, no bearing failure in my case.
Holy shit how much preload was on that M150? Looks like it was about half compressed before you even got it locked into the back of the box. YAY for the stupid shit!!!!
If you upgraded the motor you need to upgrade all the wiring, trigger switch and probably the battery too. Silver wire (as shown in this vid) is best, and don't use any of the cheap chinese lipo's - you need a proper Turnigy or similar.
@@SirEatsCrackAlot im suing 10a omron and upgraded wiring,the best is get a 480 motor and a bracket and an airsoft battery..i've tried with chi chai yellow motor does not last long ..now im using 33k motor(blackand red color 460 size motor)
@@webkamjust get a 480 motor and airsoft battery will solve the heating issues..but if u're on a budget,just used chi chai motor rare earth and a 1.2 spring.. and also get a Ninja hop up,chainsaw products are trash does not do any improvement once u upgraded ur blaster..
Is it hard to do these videos from the side like that? I reckon it’d be awkward? Shame you could put your camera right over the top looking down 90 degrees? Then you could sit straight on?
thanks for the clarification. this video is about 5 years old back then there was no documentation for gel blasters, we only had poorly translated chinese listings to work with. they listed handguards as "fishbones" and pistons as "plunger" racks as "ladder gear" we have since come to use the correct technical jargon. but at the time this video was made we did not know any better.
@@wiggyg4781 If you click on the Show More in the description his link to the buy coffee website is right there. Not accusing you of anything because UA-cam is just stupidly harder and harder to use these days. I can't stand trying to use it on the phone. Here's the link anyway www.buymeacoffee.com/EFH6qPMlX
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"welcome to Low Guido's chop shop, second best gel blaster channel on the internet..." second to who?
He’s referring to blasters mania
tim davey however, blasters mania is not understandable
@@F1nanc1alFr33d0m yeah @blastermania no.1 from Malaysia!
second to none mate ;)
Nah M4A1
Absolutely love these vids. These are experiments we need to improve gel blasters.
If airsoft can get so refined then we can to.
Still don't understand Airsoft being limited to 175fps in SA yet we're free to just mod these gel blasters to double that. At this point the only difference is the ammo and at 300fps it's gonna hurt if it's a gel ball or solid bead
@@SEEYAIAYE Yeah that is strange, I was not even aware of the 175fps limit, which is ridiculously low. I wish they would just replicate the UKs rules for a starting point and base it off a joule limit.
@@IIIIRokzIIII Only reason why Gel Blasters are taking off here in SA is because Airsoft isn't even worth the bother at the moment. Ironic that the main reason it was banned in the first place is because of the replica firearms act yet some of these blasters look pretty bloody convincing.
@@SEEYAIAYE Oh yer for sure, I am very appreciative that we have blasters available to us now (I'm QLD). Hopefully this will prove that airsoft would prove no threat and benefit the community. But that's only if idiots don't wreck it for us by doing stupid shit in public. Fingers crossed for both 'normal' states haha.
@@SEEYAIAYE really you guys have airsoft now? the states are so fucked up
We learned so much about this since this build, would love to see you revisit it
yeah you are not wrong, things have come a long way. especially now with harder gels and CNC boxes. much more FPS would be possible
Love the vid mate keep doin this experimental stuff so cool to see
I would be keen on a build of a dead reliable gearbox. FPS and rate of fire not crazy. Happy to get a steady 280-300. I just want it to work.
I mean the gearbox is almost identical to an airsoft one. So why isn't it working for you? AEG is pretty reliable, have you customised the gearbox? You probably have not shimmed properly......
The gearbox is LITERALLY the same as an AEG, the only different is probably the nozzle head.
If you are the 2 best gel ball channel, who is the first?
his just testing fans. xD
I'd like to know as well. But then again it could just be Guido not trying to say he's "the best" like a lot of other channels do when they are part of a niche market.
Thank you for all your helpful videos and what not to do’s ;) your advice and opinions have been very helpful whilst learning this new hobby 👍
Jesus 500 fps is pretty much a below average bullet. That is some serious power.
loving the vids. I have an ldt 416d and don't know where to go with the upgrades. the fps is around 300- 320 but seems wildly inaccurate compared to my gen9. are the gearbox internals interchangeable between the 2? do u sell upgrades for ldt hk?
Did the gel balls them self break at 500fps?
720fps with milkies
I call bullshit on the metal gearbox not being as good as nylon.
I had a nylon box for less than a week, the plunger melted to it before getting through a single Magazine.
I've never had that kind of trouble with my metal one, and it's still going strong months later.
Thanks for the clip LG & enjoy the coffee.
Taking on board your feedback on going to circa 350fps and maybe slightly above what’s the best way to get a Gen 9 up to that FPS?
-I’ve got an upgraded 1.3 spring, 11v batt & steel barrel.
-I ordered the Gen 9 upgrade kit from Gel ball mod just before seeing your vid the other day showing the cylinder not fitting in the housing so apart from using the gears not sure what else to do?
-what size bruise master barrel should I get to fit?
-what over mods to get it there? Eg Upgraded Wiring (could you send link example to buy?)....Mosfet switch is this from air soft sites (could give an example link to buy?)
Thanks Paul
You don't really need MOSFET unless you are burning out your trigger contacts. And you might get lucky with the gen 9 kit because i think they fixed it. You should be able to hit 350 pretty easy with 1.4mm spring.
Ok thanks LG.
FYI with your skills if your were able to build a reliable custom moded LG blaster hitting at 350 FPS plus there would be a very strong market for it, myself included. Thanks again
For great science!!!! Umps are great. You should walk us through an uber build!
The FPS went nuts .. wow
Titanium gears looking at upgrade to a J10 ACR will you recommend the best set up for it found a 170m/s or 557fps but it don't look good if this is current you need airsoft parts??????? Shshshs what about gas as the M203 grenade luncher attachments airsoft could if used gel be ok for use hear?????? Otherwise I'll be modifing the spring and dual chamber for a full load shoot that took me a second😆.👍
Too much side thrust with the helical gears for those bearings. The housings aren't really designed for it either. Straight cut gears are always better, when noise isn't an issue.
Would using a slower motor be easer on the gears ?
I wonder how does that increase effective range, the maximum without sacrificing the accuracy?
German Lee 1.2 spring with tight bore barrel and dkj8s hop up
What does that spring test on the low Guidos compression scale? would it be heavier than a 1.5mm?
M150 is way heavier than a 1.5 spring. M150 means 150m per second thats how they rate them in airsoft and being this shs m150 spring is an airsoft spring
@@greasenbeats2230 thats funny i get a consistent 450fps on a 1.5 spring.
i wonder what happen if we give this insane fps with pretty long barrel, till it reach sweet ratio?
Does it gonna be double distance & accuracy, then added hop up, oh boy
And the bent plate you stripped the gears and the spring was to much on the ball sling and bent the plate got a ACR upgrade want the 170M nice. (Did you do a AOC check????)
Man you've posted some fucking good vids lately. My son and I just got our first m4 and ordered the basic upgrades. Would not have found this fantastic weekend fun time if not for your channel. Thanks heaps mate. Very informative. Btw which state or territory are you In?
Link to your shop?
I’m just getting into it now but what made the gears strip exactly? Was it the large spring or the hearing itself?
I have always thought solid brass bushes would be better. Why did they roll bearings anyway ?
Does any cylinder fit with any type of gearbox or are they specific? What cylinder type is good for an RX AK47?
if u're using gen8 gearbox,usually fits any even from airsoft parts,as well as the piston..i bought my parts from aeg and installed it in my gen8,the best result when using mushroom type piston head!give u better results!
@@Rreeve87 apparently Rx Ak47 has a different type of gearbox since it has a blowback mechanism built in. I really wouldnt know how to differentiate between a gen8 or gen9 to an rx ak47 cylinder...is it of the same size or is it different altogether?
@@oneofthechosen874 for gen 8 and gen9 parts like gears,tappet,pistons,cylinder head and nozzol are the same,only motors are diff..now i recently installed silent bearing piston cylinder head kit(mushroom type) from and airsoft AEG parts and v2 mag motor .the result was amazing shooting was better then using dual oring piston. and motor mag result was 3x better then the standard motor,
ua-cam.com/video/jBwVYEbJ3yQ/v-deo.html
@@Rreeve87 That mag motor is interesting. Way did it improve? Your rate of fire?
bro thats nuts
What gear ratio did you use? would a more torque stope the gears from stripping like that?
Send it my way. Love it✌🏼
Were do u by bruise master tight bor barrels?
Im curious since you seem to be floating around. Whats the hoghest fps you got a veccy to register?
Why helicals on such a low powered build? E&C QD gearbox at the end ;-)
So I watched your Mk14 Mod1 and was so thoroughly impressed I instantly subscribed and love your content, if it wouldn't be a hassle if really appreciate a parts list for the build or contact with you on a commission for one to be built?
Can I use m120 spring??
That came to an abrupt ending mate haha. Any feedback on whether the helical gears are worth the $
Came to an abrupt ending when i got the shits with it and couldn't be bothered fiming more. The helicals lasted about 10 min. Til the bearing failed
Low Guido's Chop Shop for the novice what’s the benefit difference/benefit between bushes and bearings?
@@lowguidoschopshop I thought as much hahaha
did you used the high troque gear set ?
would you be able to get airsoft motors or parts I don't rly know im in nsw
Airsoft station.com where I get my import parts
and living in Vic our stared has the worse laws. compaired to rest of aus and so far parts I've ordered has come in
My all metal M4 ( M4 undertaker at GBU) shoot 380fps, all metal gears, V2 12;1 gear ration, 10in handrail , simple looking, wanted power accuracy (a sleeper) 110m spring , razor hope up etc,). BUT THE GEL BALLS ARE 80% exploding. Aka, beast gel balls when firing……… when it works 35m dead straight hard hitting, but what’s the point when most explode !!!!! why is this happening please and what can I do to fix it. I’m happy to pay to send to you to make a video {lol}…………… help snd advise!!!!
Warm regards stay safe and healthy 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺
I kow what you can do with the metal V2 box. Give it to me.
This was the first video i watched of your channel, coming back to it now after having a ton of gelblaster upgrading experience, im confused why you were getting 380 - 500 on a M150. I run a M120 in my modified vector and punch around the 450s
when this video was made the gels were a lot more inconsistent and nowhere near as hard as todays gels.
@@lowguidoschopshop Yeah, have you tried out the AKA gels? They pack a punch and can easily withstand 500 fps
hi bro...please show tutorial increase fps for nwell g36c
No full auto test or distance?
I wonder where the industry is at 2 years later?
Still crazy FPS 4 years later 😅
imagine what is possible today.
try it with 1:32 at single, not gen8 for dmr 😁
what motor did u use?
Where do you find a metal gen 8 gearbox? :-O
You can buy it but I would say, avoid buying metal gear box casing
@@ashtls6273 why is that
@@carlalegado6225 some places considers it illegal cause its more Airsoft like
So I'm guessing the generic gears stripped too? No doubt you already know but stainless oil-less bushings are needed for heavy springs. Depending how much you compress the spring with bearings (front only or front and rear) and as long as volume ratios stay within tolerance for barrel size, you might find short stroking necessary. I have a set of 13:1 gears in a nylon frame shortstroked by 2 teeth, 7.1 bore 27.5cm barrel and 1.4 spring. Didn't bother taking teeth from plunger. Works well, though I haven't tried a 1.5mm spring in it as once my gears are had it my buget won't allow another set in a hurry. Killed the first set of generic gears I tried the 1.5 on which is why I went the route of short stroking on the expensive gears.
No the cheapo gears kept going and going.
Wow, must have been the bearing failure that caused the damage then. I stripped generic gears on the first trigger pull with a 1.5mm spring, no bearing failure in my case.
Wanna radius that box or she gonna last all of 10s
Holy shit how much preload was on that M150? Looks like it was about half compressed before you even got it locked into the back of the box. YAY for the stupid shit!!!!
hey bro, i upgraded my m4a1 but now it gets crazy hot and the battery dose too....help me please hahah
what spring are u using?make sure its 1.1-1.2.. im using 1.4 unequal having the same result like yours..
@@Rreeve87 i thought putting a black chi in meant i could put i bigger spring in :?
If you upgraded the motor you need to upgrade all the wiring, trigger switch and probably the battery too. Silver wire (as shown in this vid) is best, and don't use any of the cheap chinese lipo's - you need a proper Turnigy or similar.
@@SirEatsCrackAlot im suing 10a omron and upgraded wiring,the best is get a 480 motor and a bracket and an airsoft battery..i've tried with chi chai yellow motor does not last long ..now im using 33k motor(blackand red color 460 size motor)
@@webkamjust get a 480 motor and airsoft battery will solve the heating issues..but if u're on a budget,just used chi chai motor rare earth and a 1.2 spring.. and also get a Ninja hop up,chainsaw products are trash does not do any improvement once u upgraded ur blaster..
What u doing up this early
never sleep
Early? Its 5am, thats pretty normal.
@@кяуртіс not when low was posting at 3:30am
I have the same setup in my m4ss
nice!!!
moral of the story: Cgeaper is sometimes better
Worth the $3
Is it hard to do these videos from the side like that? I reckon it’d be awkward? Shame you could put your camera right over the top looking down 90 degrees? Then you could sit straight on?
Yes it is super awkward.
Ladder plunger??? WTF is that lol??? The gear is called a rack, it’s fixed to a piston, it’s a piston rack
thanks for the clarification. this video is about 5 years old back then there was no documentation for gel blasters, we only had poorly translated chinese listings to work with. they listed handguards as "fishbones" and pistons as "plunger" racks as "ladder gear" we have since come to use the correct technical jargon. but at the time this video was made we did not know any better.
I had one that kept on popping the bearings that's why I change back to nylon
Can I be your bestest friend ever ?
Imagine if he was your friend.. pwooaaah!
What!!!
and how do u buy a coffee? not really a social media guy lol
The link is literally in the description mate.
@@SEEYAIAYE what does that mean dude? link to what?
@@SEEYAIAYE maybe im a dumd ass but there is no link in description
@@wiggyg4781 If you click on the Show More in the description his link to the buy coffee website is right there. Not accusing you of anything because UA-cam is just stupidly harder and harder to use these days. I can't stand trying to use it on the phone.
Here's the link anyway
www.buymeacoffee.com/EFH6qPMlX
@@SEEYAIAYE thanks got it mate. 👍
~700 fps