"My memory's very bad, I can't remember 10 seconds ago" *remembers every name of every spin trainer and every pokemon they have* And yes, those switches destroyed me as a young trainer. Nice run!
@@prawtism some areas you're just way overleveled for and the constant battles don't provide enough exp for the time spent. But, if the wild pokes are within like 7 or so levels of me I don't mind fighting
@GoDLiKe211 to me it's just insanely annoying, mainly when trying to traverse a cave or just somewhere where you actually need to pay attention to where you're going. on normal routes it isn't too bad
Camper: "Hey Crys, do you wanna trade some poke-" Crys: "SHUT UP I GOT A SPEED RUN TO DO!" Bugsy: "Congratula-" Crys: "SHUTUP AND GIVE ME MY BADGE IM IN A HURRY!" *rival comes out of Jasmine's Gym* Crys: "ONE SIDE I GOT PLACES TO GO" *shoves rival* Red: "..." Crys: "This guy speaks my language!"
Oh shit, this makes my 4:02 gold run look like nothing. Fantastic job man, I've recently become pretty obsessed with this game and have been looking to get into speedrunning.
Your record has been beaten many times by now, but I choose to watch your video because I support you. Thanks for all the Pokemon entertainment you provide brother.
2018 here! Was looking for a speedrun "guide" for Crystal so I could start shiny hunt Celebi... stumbled upon this video and I just wanted to thank you! Followed almost your every step, got past the league in 5 hours and 30 mins. Magic!
What an absolutely unbelievable run! He knew every trick, where things could go wrong, which moves caused bosses to use healing items, where the right Pokemon were, the power points needed to be conserved, got the best possible outcome in 90% of the situations, only hit 7 out of 18 spinners, knew where to look at the items and teach moves, got amazing speeds and opportunities on all tough battles including Red, knew the DV/IVs he needed and knew how to explain everything. Perfect/unbeatable run!
Re: Fury Cutter: I actually just did the math on this, and it totally checks out that three Scratches would barely do half the damage of three Fury Cutters. Rather than doubling the base power of Fury Cutter each turn, Fury Cutter's final damage (before random adjustment) is doubled, and this means that it benefits from the +2 that's added in the damage formula before STAB and type effectiveness are added - when super effective, it becomes a +4 on the first Fury Cutter turn, then +8 on the second, then +16 on the third. Scratch, meanwhile, is only getting the one +2. It adds up!
Japanese is faster. However, the pokemon speedrunning community in the west agrees to run on English so that audiences can understand what move is going to be used. The choice to run on English is purely because running with a different language would alienate an audience as its so vital to understand what moves he is using/used against him/items used using to enjoy the run as a viewer.
I think the Rare Candy thing might be down to the item's text boxes also being set to Fastest, technically. And the game isn't told to change it during an evolution.
God-DAMN! This was so exciting and interesting to watch. So many little things you have to consider when speedrunning that can make a big difference later on. This also reminded me of how much the Gen II music rocks. HG & SS's remixes made me forget how much better the originals were.
Wow, this was very impressive. The sheer amount of commitment it must of taken to do this is incredible. You knew the stats and possible scenarios of all the Pokemon you fought. Amazing.
It kinda made sense, it goes from right side of the screen towards your Pokemon's sprite to the left. Perhaps signifying that your Pokemon is this much or that much close to getting stronger.
It just takes a couple milliseconds to load different frames, so over the course of 3 1/2 hours, it saves maybe a couple mins, which in a speed run counts.
I like that your character started his journey to be league champion one night and then by the next day is champion with his starter he received the night before, and 3 low level hm slaves one of which is a stolen spearow. This is the first ever pokemon speedrun I've watched, but it was so awesome I'll probably be watching a ton more of your footage in the next week or so.
That was fucking awesome man. I watched the Yellow run the other day also, both very entertaining. The commentary really makes it a whole different experience. I hope to see more of these in the future, in the mean time, LOOK AT THAT DITTO!
Werster, you are a beast, you're making Australia look even better. Someday, man, I'm gonna get a better time, even if I have to segment. I was wondering about save corruption though, because until it was mentioned on the agdq schedule, I didn't know what it was, and even now I can't find anything on it. What exactly is it?
I am actually interested when I watch your speed runs because you are so skilled & the fact that I can learn abit from watching to AND your an australian 2. Just adds to the godlikelyness
To be more clear, Soft Resting can be used for both the Masuda Method and Legendary Pokemon that you interact with (Latios, Latias, Entei, Suicune and Raikou are harder to RNG though, since there IV's are set at a certain point I believe). Stationary Legendary Pokemon, like Regirock for example, can be saved in front of, then RNG manipulated to have certain stats based on how many frames you advance, the time (as in at 2 PM or 2:10 PM) and/or the amount of soft resets done. Hope this helps.
What you've got to understand is that the skill in this run comes down to a) The fact that werster himself did the routing. Routing Pokémon games is tough work, especially given all the different possibilities to consider. b) The sheer perseverance involved. When watching werster's stream, I know that I myself watched about a hundred resets. I certainly did not watch all of werster's attempts, I imagine that getting this run required at least 500-1000 resets.
For Scyther's Fury Cutter, I think it did more damage than you would expect because the damage formula doesn't work exactly like that. After factoring in the level, attack / defense and base power, the game adds 2 to the damage. Then apply the STAB bonus. So actually : - Fury Swipe does 3 + 3 damage. - Quick attack does 8 + 2 damage. So the base damage of Quick Attack is 8/3 higher. And 40/15 = 8/3
According to the 'bulbapedia' (pokemon wiki), freeze has a 20% chance each turn of thawing. Thus the probability of lasting for 4 turns (or more, since it lost on the 5th) is (1-0.2)^4 = 0.4096 ~ 0.4
It does. It's what I always did so I didn't have to go through the hassle of going to the pokecenter. You deposit your injured pokemon in werseter's case feraligator and it saves him a good chunk of time.
Great run! I can't believe I watched the whole thing. I'd be interested in seeing you do runs of other versions. I wonder if a faster time is possible using a different pokemon.Probably not.
i remember the first time i played this, me and 2 friends all did a run at the same time, picking diff pokemon each, i got screwed with chikorita first run and i was so far behind for so long
I was considering trying to do a segmented Gen II run, would you consider the route to be incredibly different? I mean obviously it'd be cleaner (eg less encounters, no spinners) but would there be any massive route changes? Cheers if you can help
I think that I have a theory here, based on Neskamikaze's. Basically, I think it doubles the raw damage of the previous hit before factoring in the multipliers. So, Scyther's first hit had a power of 15, the the second hit had a power of 45 (15 x 2 x 1.5). I think that also results in it ignoring Reflect. Neatly wraps everything up, don't ya think? Same likely applies to Rollout and maybe even Rage.
Footrace1 The person didn't say they beat the whole game with that Scizor, just Red himself. I actually think that's pretty amazing, but yeah, I'm sure he'd have issues getting through the whole rest of the game just on that moveset.
ookwormbay7 word I just realized that distinction when I reread the comment. Pretty incredible indeed, I imagine he’d just spam double team until evasion is maxed out and hope to not get hit as he hopes for crits
So the base power of Fury Cutter is correct, and a second Fury Cutter wouldn't have KOed Totodile because it would have made 6+3damage, so 1less than quick attack. As for the battle against Bayleef, I have no idea for why it would do that.
Yes, I am aware they are completely different things. Calm down. I only said this run happened to be a nuzlocke at the same time. I am not too fond of it either, as it requires a lot of grinding time to get through the game. Wow, a minute huh? Is it that significant when the run itself is above 200 minutes?
Time optimization. It takes less frames to replace Scratch with Fury Cutter because if you were to replace Rage with Fury Cutter, it would take more time to scroll down to Fury Cutter to use it on Bayleef. Plus, Rage is a MUCH better move than Scratch.
I've since read werster's HeartGold faq and basically, you're forced to do Sprout Tower and beat a bunch of Bellsprout in Gen IV, which Cyndaquil is obviously good at. Also you get Fire Blast in Goldenrod. In Gen II, Totodile is superior because Rage is pretty much the only way you're getting through Falkner's Gym without grinding - Cyndaquil apparently gets "bodied".
Johto was my favorite, because you had an adventure in both Kanto and Johto and you got to battle Green(Blue) and Red like after their adventure which was awesome
Hmm, I think it's because fury cutter is a bug-attack, and iirc Zubat is poison/flying. That would mean the damage done would be 0.25x the original power. Fury cutter starts at 10, and it scales to 20-40 in the next two uses(bayleef). So that would mean the next fury cutter on zubat would do 80 base. But because zubat is resistant, it should do 0.25x80=20. Water gun does 40 alone, and with the same type attack bonus of Croconaw it would do 1.5x40=60, which is more then using fury cutter.
I love the fact that he knows all the spinners' names and says them with such dislike
Fucking. Boarder. Douglas. 😤
Fun (but useless) fact:
At the way Unown are coded, ironically, the only Unown that could become shinies are the letters I and V.
Unknown*
The pokemon is called "Unown".
@@Jake-tp2xw lol dumbass
@@Jake-tp2xw UGG
@@Jake-tp2xw UGG z zzz
Wake up in your hometown, become the Johto Champ by noon. Hell of a day.
Arch_Saltsworn yup
For you
"I wont Run this game again" Werster 2012.
"My memory's very bad, I can't remember 10 seconds ago" *remembers every name of every spin trainer and every pokemon they have* And yes, those switches destroyed me as a young trainer. Nice run!
can't believe he commentated that entire thing, imagine if he did this on all his runs
It would be awesome. I believe this commentary was made at a later stage, though, not recorded live.
@@FixdalOK obviously...
Weirdly relaxing though, probably because he's not narrating it in real-time.
Odds of the final battle outcome:
Pikachu Thunder miss: 0.3
Ice punch freeze: 0.1
4 turn freeze: ~0.4
Flinch 1: 0.3
Flinch 2: 0.3
0.3*0.1*0.4*0.3*0.3 = 0.00108 = 27/25000 = ~1/1000
Damn
"I hate Douglas" -1:34:30
"His name is Irwin. I hate him." 42:33
He really dislikes the spinners, huh
I love seeing my childhood games ripped apart, either by glitches or abuse of mechanics and knowledge. Great videos.
Me: 50 max repels for one route.
Werster: 15 super repels for the whole game.
Me: zero repels for the entire game of Crystal !!
@@ironpyrous5787 I never understood the point of repels, until I found out about speedrunning
@@prawtism some areas you're just way overleveled for and the constant battles don't provide enough exp for the time spent. But, if the wild pokes are within like 7 or so levels of me I don't mind fighting
@GoDLiKe211 to me it's just insanely annoying, mainly when trying to traverse a cave or just somewhere where you actually need to pay attention to where you're going. on normal routes it isn't too bad
Camper: "Hey Crys, do you wanna trade some poke-"
Crys: "SHUT UP I GOT A SPEED RUN TO DO!"
Bugsy: "Congratula-"
Crys: "SHUTUP AND GIVE ME MY BADGE IM IN A HURRY!"
*rival comes out of Jasmine's Gym*
Crys: "ONE SIDE I GOT PLACES TO GO" *shoves rival*
Red: "..."
Crys: "This guy speaks my language!"
how do you bold print?
BiggBiteProductions do I put it in *stars*?
*hi*
@@AwkwardAndInnocent _no_
1:11:37 “When I hit her I get mad”
Whoa
That Red fight was insane. Would be great if Werster did commentary like this for all his PBs
When i told my friends in primary school that i was able to beat crystal in 4 hrs and a half, everybody laughed at me. and i was so sad
nicolapodgornik wut?
Dude they were jealous
@@joeh4955
True. I agree with Joe
Oh shit, this makes my 4:02 gold run look like nothing. Fantastic job man, I've recently become pretty obsessed with this game and have been looking to get into speedrunning.
This game by far has the best soundtrack to any other Pokemon game
+brian Out of any core game, maybe. Some of the spin off games though have AMAZING soundtracks.
gen 2 by far my favorite, but black and white had some lit ass music though.
Oh man this soundtrack brings me back. I remember going through so many AA batteries on my purple gameboy color back in the day
Joe Majewski the AA batteries mention made me nostalgic lmao
Daan D'Eer I was always a thrifty bastard. Used my allowance on rechargeables lol
Your commentaries are really relaxing. Thanks for uploading this.
I like how Blaine still says "HA! You better have burn heal!"
I actually did name my rival ??? When I was a kid.
Dustin Peterson what's on you
same
I still named them now, what’s wrong here ?
Forgot how good the music is in this game
Your record has been beaten many times by now, but I choose to watch your video because I support you. Thanks for all the Pokemon entertainment you provide brother.
This is one of the best commentaries I've ever heard. Keep this up, man
The fact that this is over a decade old is just unbelievable to me.
2018 here! Was looking for a speedrun "guide" for Crystal so I could start shiny hunt Celebi... stumbled upon this video and I just wanted to thank you! Followed almost your every step, got past the league in 5 hours and 30 mins. Magic!
Watching these old Crystal videos and playing along was what got me into speedrunning. Good times
What an absolutely unbelievable run! He knew every trick, where things could go wrong, which moves caused bosses to use healing items, where the right Pokemon were, the power points needed to be conserved, got the best possible outcome in 90% of the situations, only hit 7 out of 18 spinners, knew where to look at the items and teach moves, got amazing speeds and opportunities on all tough battles including Red, knew the DV/IVs he needed and knew how to explain everything. Perfect/unbeatable run!
Re: Fury Cutter: I actually just did the math on this, and it totally checks out that three Scratches would barely do half the damage of three Fury Cutters. Rather than doubling the base power of Fury Cutter each turn, Fury Cutter's final damage (before random adjustment) is doubled, and this means that it benefits from the +2 that's added in the damage formula before STAB and type effectiveness are added - when super effective, it becomes a +4 on the first Fury Cutter turn, then +8 on the second, then +16 on the third. Scratch, meanwhile, is only getting the one +2. It adds up!
I watched all of this, absolutely incredible how you did that, amazing effort! You have truely earned that 700th like haha :D
Japanese is faster.
However, the pokemon speedrunning community in the west agrees to run on English so that audiences can understand what move is going to be used. The choice to run on English is purely because running with a different language would alienate an audience as its so vital to understand what moves he is using/used against him/items used using to enjoy the run as a viewer.
I think the Rare Candy thing might be down to the item's text boxes also being set to Fastest, technically. And the game isn't told to change it during an evolution.
God-DAMN! This was so exciting and interesting to watch. So many little things you have to consider when speedrunning that can make a big difference later on. This also reminded me of how much the Gen II music rocks. HG & SS's remixes made me forget how much better the originals were.
Your knowledge of this game is incredible. You definitely deserve that short short gameplay time!
Great commented run.. Truly a legend
Wow, this was very impressive. The sheer amount of commitment it must of taken to do this is incredible. You knew the stats and possible scenarios of all the Pokemon you fought. Amazing.
Amazing run, its all about knowledge and luck, kudos to you sir, I really enjoyed watching it and the commentary keeps it fun
LOL that waifu part.
YEAH YOU BETTER RUN
Lol, "It doesn't get worse than border Douglas!" =)
A new spinner appears
Werster: his name is Kane, he has a ratata and mankey, his blood type is a-, and his address is....
What? I is evolving! Lol
Correct grammar :
(Either, pick one)
I am evolving
He is evolving.
@@ironpyrous5787 wat
@@ironpyrous5787 he's quoting the text in the video dumbass. try not to reply to 6 year old comments with stupid things
As soon as I came across this comment, I literally saw the evolution from Totodile X3
I LOVE the commentary. Thank you!!!
It's always bothered me how the exp bar goes the opposite way the hp bar goes.
It kinda made sense, it goes from right side of the screen towards your Pokemon's sprite to the left. Perhaps signifying that your Pokemon is this much or that much close to getting stronger.
It just takes a couple milliseconds to load different frames, so over the course of 3 1/2 hours, it saves maybe a couple mins, which in a speed run counts.
I like that your character started his journey to be league champion one night and then by the next day is champion with his starter he received the night before, and 3 low level hm slaves one of which is a stolen spearow. This is the first ever pokemon speedrun I've watched, but it was so awesome I'll probably be watching a ton more of your footage in the next week or so.
I love this video, second time watching now. The knowledge and insight is simply amazing.
That was fucking awesome man. I watched the Yellow run the other day also, both very entertaining. The commentary really makes it a whole different experience. I hope to see more of these in the future, in the mean time, LOOK AT THAT DITTO!
watched the whole thing.. super entertaining hearing your thoughts. hope to see more (with commentary makes it 100x better)
"It doesn't get any worse than Boarder Douglas..."
XD I cracked up here.
Ah, so *RAGE* is how you beat Miltank when you don’t have a fighting type or another strategy (e.g. overlevelling)
Gastly Hypnosis works
I forgot how much I loved the Kanto Gym leader music.
2020 isolation relief viewing ❤🇦🇺
Hey it's a classic!
could you explain exactly what frame 4 is, and how to achieve it?
It's the frame, or boarder rather you see around the text boxes. There are 7 boarders/frames to choose from in the options.
once again, congrats on an amazing run : D
Werster, you're my hero. You're also the REAL POKEMON MASTER!!!
this is my favorite pokemon game. or at least gen 2. thanks for the upload.
Werster, you are a beast, you're making Australia look even better. Someday, man, I'm gonna get a better time, even if I have to segment.
I was wondering about save corruption though, because until it was mentioned on the agdq schedule, I didn't know what it was, and even now I can't find anything on it. What exactly is it?
My first and favorite Pokémon game. Man the nostalgia is hitting hard.
Shiet, just watched all 3 and a half hours of this, Sum1 give dis guy a medal this is amazing.
Congratz werster. I was there and was surprised. A perfect run. =)
I watched this in one run... damn
speedwatching
I like to watch speedruns, but this one is one of the best for pokemon series!
I love how you know all the spinners by name
That final battle was TAS worthy. God the luck u got. Great run werster
6 hours put into this, I give you credit
What an awesome video, im hooked on werster runs now
I am actually interested when I watch your speed runs because you are so skilled & the fact that I can learn abit from watching to AND your an australian 2. Just adds to the godlikelyness
2:08:32 Notice the SUPREME tech skill of that NPC..
To be more clear, Soft Resting can be used for both the Masuda Method and Legendary Pokemon that you interact with (Latios, Latias, Entei, Suicune and Raikou are harder to RNG though, since there IV's are set at a certain point I believe). Stationary Legendary Pokemon, like Regirock for example, can be saved in front of, then RNG manipulated to have certain stats based on how many frames you advance, the time (as in at 2 PM or 2:10 PM) and/or the amount of soft resets done. Hope this helps.
When I first saw Silver saying his name was ???, I was like "Okay. You don't even know your own name."
What you've got to understand is that the skill in this run comes down to
a) The fact that werster himself did the routing. Routing Pokémon games is tough work, especially given all the different possibilities to consider.
b) The sheer perseverance involved. When watching werster's stream, I know that I myself watched about a hundred resets. I certainly did not watch all of werster's attempts, I imagine that getting this run required at least 500-1000 resets.
For Scyther's Fury Cutter, I think it did more damage than you would expect because the damage formula doesn't work exactly like that.
After factoring in the level, attack / defense and base power, the game adds 2 to the damage. Then apply the STAB bonus.
So actually :
- Fury Swipe does 3 + 3 damage.
- Quick attack does 8 + 2 damage.
So the base damage of Quick Attack is 8/3 higher. And 40/15 = 8/3
According to the 'bulbapedia' (pokemon wiki), freeze has a 20% chance each turn of thawing.
Thus the probability of lasting for 4 turns (or more, since it lost on the 5th) is (1-0.2)^4 = 0.4096 ~ 0.4
Hey man, awesome run:D im currently learning to run pokemon games (Currently Sapphire) Its good to see an Australian on the scene:D
Brilliant run, well done, very impressive!
gg man this was awesome especially the final battle
It does. It's what I always did so I didn't have to go through the hassle of going to the pokecenter. You deposit your injured pokemon in werseter's case feraligator and it saves him a good chunk of time.
This was incredible. I'm glad I watched the whole thing.
Starting to watch this the 3rd time :D Your awesome dude, thx for this video
Ah ok thank you.
Will LOVE your glitched run!GL
you are AMAZING!!!! beating Red 15 levels lower then his Pokemon!!! that was awesome!!
Damn. Can't believe he was only 18 here
Great run! I can't believe I watched the whole thing. I'd be interested in seeing you do runs of other versions. I wonder if a faster time is possible using a different pokemon.Probably not.
i remember the first time i played this, me and 2 friends all did a run at the same time, picking diff pokemon each, i got screwed with chikorita first run and i was so far behind for so long
I was considering trying to do a segmented Gen II run, would you consider the route to be incredibly different? I mean obviously it'd be cleaner (eg less encounters, no spinners) but would there be any massive route changes? Cheers if you can help
Wow thats awesome! nice luck on the final battle
I think that I have a theory here, based on Neskamikaze's. Basically, I think it doubles the raw damage of the previous hit before factoring in the multipliers. So, Scyther's first hit had a power of 15, the the second hit had a power of 45 (15 x 2 x 1.5). I think that also results in it ignoring Reflect. Neatly wraps everything up, don't ya think? Same likely applies to Rollout and maybe even Rage.
thank you for explaining this run, this is fantastic.
One time I beat Red only using a level 48 Scizor and a lvl 5 Togepi(for flash) Scizor moveset was Double team Swords Dance Agility Slash
Resurrecting an old comment. How did you deal with ghost types? And PP management with a moveset that only has one damage delivering attack seems hard
Footrace1 The person didn't say they beat the whole game with that Scizor, just Red himself. I actually think that's pretty amazing, but yeah, I'm sure he'd have issues getting through the whole rest of the game just on that moveset.
ookwormbay7 word I just realized that distinction when I reread the comment. Pretty incredible indeed, I imagine he’d just spam double team until evasion is maxed out and hope to not get hit as he hopes for crits
Footrace1 hmm if he had foresight it would make sense
So the base power of Fury Cutter is correct, and a second Fury Cutter wouldn't have KOed Totodile because it would have made 6+3damage, so 1less than quick attack.
As for the battle against Bayleef, I have no idea for why it would do that.
I love how you have such a love for Misty!! I respect you bro!! :D Misty is ADORABLE!! Sabrina is my favorite to be honest :)
Yes, I am aware they are completely different things. Calm down. I only said this run happened to be a nuzlocke at the same time. I am not too fond of it either, as it requires a lot of grinding time to get through the game. Wow, a minute huh? Is it that significant when the run itself is above 200 minutes?
Time optimization. It takes less frames to replace Scratch with Fury Cutter because if you were to replace Rage with Fury Cutter, it would take more time to scroll down to Fury Cutter to use it on Bayleef. Plus, Rage is a MUCH better move than Scratch.
3 and a half hours well spent, cheers!
he means the trainers that look in every direction possible.
Loved this, TW Werst from the past.
I've since read werster's HeartGold faq and basically, you're forced to do Sprout Tower and beat a bunch of Bellsprout in Gen IV, which Cyndaquil is obviously good at. Also you get Fire Blast in Goldenrod. In Gen II, Totodile is superior because Rage is pretty much the only way you're getting through Falkner's Gym without grinding - Cyndaquil apparently gets "bodied".
you can use gaurd spec on Reds pikachu, it locks him into Charm, and gard spec prevents charm from doing anything, so you set up and sweep
i honestly dont know why i watched the entire thing, but good run, i learned some stuff
Johto was my favorite, because you had an adventure in both Kanto and Johto and you got to battle Green(Blue) and Red like after their adventure which was awesome
Werster: "I name myself I, because that's obviously the coolest name by far."
Chinese ppl: "Hold my beer..."
Hmm, I think it's because fury cutter is a bug-attack, and iirc Zubat is poison/flying. That would mean the damage done would be 0.25x the original power. Fury cutter starts at 10, and it scales to 20-40 in the next two uses(bayleef). So that would mean the next fury cutter on zubat would do 80 base. But because zubat is resistant, it should do 0.25x80=20. Water gun does 40 alone, and with the same type attack bonus of Croconaw it would do 1.5x40=60, which is more then using fury cutter.