My mini review of the Steven Slate Raven MTI2
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2021
- With all the bad rap I'm seeing about the Raven MTI2, I felt compelled to make my own review of it. I think it's an amazing product! The possibilities are endless to improve my workflow with it. You just really have to allocate some time to learn it.
"My goal was to push this thing beyond the norm of good looks, the novelty of multi touch mixer, the equivalent of what we already do using keyboard shortcuts, etc.. Each one being a good reason but never a justification to buy on its own. To me the value was all of that ,plus (a big plus), to have the ability to think of all the things you repetitively do that takes quite a few steps to do (which is different for all of us) and be able to customize a button or gesture to do those tasks." - Розваги
This video was helpful finally someone who actually understands the Raven and how it helps your work flow go much faster if u learn really take the time to learn how to use it !
Thank you!
This is the most helpful real review I've seen on UA-cam. Thank you! Liked, subscribed, and I just bought one today!
Thanks. Spend some time configuring and learning it. Then, enjoy!!!!
Dope video! Thank you! I just ordered mine yesterday! Praying and waiting for mid July 🙏
Have fun when you get it. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or if you want to share some tips/tricks..
wow, can't believe you are firing off crazy batch gestures after a week!! thanks for making this video..
Ha ha. Thanks Jamey. My goal was to push this thing beyond the norm of good looks, the novelty of multi touch mixer, the equivalent of what we already do using keyboard shortcuts, etc.. Each one being a good reason but never a justification to buy on its own. To me the value was all of that ,plus (a big plus), to have the ability to think of all the things you repetitively do that takes quite a few steps to do (which is different for all of us) and be able to customize a button or gesture to do those tasks. Thanks for watching!
How do it get my ravens to work with my imac and apollo twin x? The i mac only has 2 thunderbolt ports. What do I need to do
Thank you for the demo and the ideas! Mine arrives in a couple days
Have fun!!!
After listening to other reviews of the same product where the user did not acoustically sound treat the room they were speaking from and then coming to your video. Wow what a night and day difference. Loved the dry sound you’ve established for this studio!
Oh wow. Thanks.
Thanks Ronnie, great review! DIY is now out of my budget…. Looking forward to getting a Raven!
Nice!
great first impression - thanks!
exactly what I wanted to know with the gestures! thank you!
Awesome! Have fun!
Thank you! This is very helpful information to have upfront.
Awesome! Have fun!
AMAZING tutorial... Could you please share the batch command for mixer align?
Hi, how could you manage to add the keyboard under the rave? I was looking for a long time how to do this...thanks
I just used an X stand. Pretty low though so I ended up relocating it to my left.
I am considering buying the 3k desk for the sake of consolidating studio space.
How good is with with Windows is Running VEP, Ableton and Calewalk. Do the Macros work for those DAWs?
And does it comfortably fit a NI Kontrol S88?
Also nice SV1 :)
Hi, sorry. I don't have experience with your platform to have an opinion.
that's pretty freakin cool!!!
Thanks man. I did a recording session last night and when it was time to cure/edit/mix, I swear, I think time wise, I was done in half time. All the tedious repetitive stuff I do, I automated and what a joy to work with. I could focus more with my ears, and I had energy to detail out everything.
Great short nice review ... i'v seen and listen to your first 2 youtubes ... GREAT studio sound with minimal equipment ... maybe you can do (when you have the time) a studio tour :-) always nice to see a fellow studio with great gear and good ears :-)
Hi John! Thank you. Absolutely. Soon as I have bandwidth, would be happy to do a tour and share with fellow studio musicians/engineers. I do have a minimalist setup in the studio of just gears I absolutely use and abuse and then there's a room full of graveyard gear from the last 40 years!.
I don't know why the Raven gets such a bad rep? I've been looking to get one for my studio. Seems like a no brainer. We use touch screens almost everyday with our phones so why not for mixing?
Yup. Just finished a recording and mixing session. I'm just lightning fast and feel so relaxed like I have all these helpers doing all the busy work for me. And yeah, love my touch and gestures. No regrets from me whatsoever!
Amen!
Can someone tell me specifically how to COMMECT these dual ravens to the max mini? It has one HDMI port but each raven has an HDMI so I bought a powered splitter and plugged both remaining usb into the max mini. Both screens work and have touch but I can’t seem to have them work independently. For example in protools I want the edit window on one screen and the mix window on a separate screen. How can I do this?
For my mac, I connected 1 to the hdmi output, and I bought a USBC to HDMI adapter to connect the 2nd monitor. You can get a 3rd party on Amazon pretty cheap. You then go to the mac preferences and make sure it is set for extended as oppose to mirrored. That's how I did mine. I don't know about a powered splitter. It sounds like it would only mirror the 2 monitors rather than extend it to 2 independent monitors.
@@orangeroom5414 that’s exactly what happened. It mirrored it. That’s what I’m missing the hdmi to usbc adapter. The multiport I’m assuming. So one screen via the mac hdmi, and the second hdmi on the second raven converted from hdmi to usbc. Thanks man.
How did you connect the two Raven screens to the iMac? And which version of the iMac so you have?
I have a couple of MacBook pros I connect to it. My new one has the M1 chip about 1 year old and another from a few years back. With both, one is through hdmi and another via usb-c to hdmi
Thanks!
I was looking into the Raven and mainly like the touchscreen features. Batch command seems cool but I most likely would not use them much(at least at first). Editing audio with the touchscreen, adjusting plugins, etc is more of what I would like to know more about. I do hear people talking about the Raven faders not being as good as physical faders and all. Maybe Slate will come out with an expandable fader pack that could mount in the Raven desk to give users the option of both worlds.
If it's the touchscreen you are after, that is rock solid. I do find it easier to adjust plugin knobs with touch rather than a mouse pointer. Having 3 screens, I love being able to jump around without having to drag my mouse across 3 screens. As far as mixer, it is not a physical mixer for sure. However, I use it all day long. I haven't had a physical fader in quite sometime and I'm personally good with it. Raven offers you their floating mixer as well as the overlay mixer which are bigger faders than what comes with the daw. However, with a press of a button, you can always hide the Raven faders and work with the daw mixer which still works by touch. Just not multi touch but still very usable. The touch screen is actually really nice to use to apply mix automation. Hope this helps.
@@orangeroom5414 any updates?
@@Doctaj54 Hi. What updates are you looking for? If it's regardin g the Raven, it's been a continuing part of my workflow. It has saved me countless hours with its shortcuts. The touch screen is great for jumping around a lot. Sometimes I launch Protools on its own and I actually begin to miss Raven being there so I end up closing PT and re-lauinching it within Raven. Let me know if there is a particular update you'd like me to do. I'm in Paris right now for my son's Olympic qualifier. When IO get back, I have a few cool gear I'd like blog about.
@@orangeroom5414 I was wondering how it was working(pros/cons) and if you were still enjoying it. Thanks and good luck to you kid.
I have the same setup as you with the I Mac. I recently got the raven. How do you set up the raven with only two thunderbolts on the back of the iMac ?
I use the thunderbolts, hdmi, and USB ports
Thanks Ronnie, great video!
I will like to buy one for my broadcasting live studio in church, I have this question in my mind, how stabil is this console. You have to calibrate a few time a week/mount?
Thanks Florin. Once setup, I haven’t really had to do any calibration. It just works for me in what I need it to do.
@@orangeroom5414 thank you so much!
Where did you get your studio Desk?? I've been considering two Ravens but wanted to find a desk with a keyboard drawer that would fit an 88 key midi controller. Your setup and desk look fire!!!! Thanks!
Steven Slate sells one just for the Raven. I really like it. Zero complaints. They also sell the Side cars which I have now. Kinda like this.
www.samash.com/slate-digital-raven-core-station-sidecar-pair-srcoredsc?cm_mmc=Google-_-Recording-_-Channeladvisor-_-Slate+Raven+Core+Station+Side+Car+(Pair)&GGL&CSE&Channeladvisor&gclid=CjwKCAjw3qGYBhBSEiwAcnTRLsEN3jUbcx7Qj0mbHssePzTryi78nfxfSK9fEow6JHzKIl3PbDz_RBoC9mUQAvD_BwE
How did you attach the sliding desk part to the Raven desk? I have the new akai mpc 61 key, and I want to slide it under the desk neatly when I’m not using it.
@@orangeroom5414 Thanks for the info! How did you attach a keyboard drawer to your Raven desk? It looks like you have an 88 key keyboard there. Thanks so much!
@@Riff_Rafster Hi. I do not have a keyboard drawer. It is on a keyboard stand.
We able to use the newest pro tools with the raven?
I’m on protools Studio 2021. Works great. Also on Logic Pro. Works great there too.
which model mac computer are you using and has there been any problems with compatibility? thank you
I've just been using a macbook Pro that's about 6 years old. Works great!
Also, been thinking about getting a loaded new mac mini but just have no time right now to rebuild an environment.
does raven mti2 & core station work with ryzen 9 5950x
I don’t see why not. This processor runs windows 10 64bit.
Thanks for the explanation. It's been 2 years since you did this video. Are you still using and has it changed in anyway?
Hi! Actually, I do not dare go to my Protools without going through Raven. On the rare occasions I go straight to Protools, I immediately exit and re-launch it through Raven. I can just do things faster with the Raven setup.
@@orangeroom5414 Awesome! Thank you. Considering adding to my setup.
This is perfect for a Rapper who records alot at home.... just Beat, Vocal, Master.... Killing the game..💥💥💥💥 You would have to be a lazy Rapper if you didn't get heard with one of these !!!! This reminds me of the Isotope Spire...The real studio version... It's like all new tech like that is perfect for Rapper but MCs don't focus on the tech....
May I ask. Are you using a MacBook Pro? If so where is. Good places for a MacBook Pro to live? I don’t see Space where I could place my MacBook Pro
Yes. I now just have it sitting on top right in the center. I got rid of the monitor on top. After a while, I realized, I am only using the 2 Raven monitors anyway. I then just keep the mbp screen closed after turning it on.
Thanks for the review chief! Does this desk come with different height adjustement? I'm also a keyboard/piano player and I find your keyboard a little to low to my likes, is it sitting on a different stand or it's a module included in the desk? Thanks a lot?
It was a separate stand. I have since moved the keyboard to the left side and not under the desk.
@@orangeroom5414 thanks!
Thanks for the video... Raven looks pretty amazing! I noticed you have a music keyboard sitting underneath it. Is there enough room for a 88 note controller or do you have something smaller?
I’ve actually moved my keyboard to the left side. It was too low sitting under the desk. Also I wanted to rest my elbows on the desk and get closer to the touch screens.
@@orangeroom5414 Yes I was thinking the position would not be optimal. If I do get the Raven I would build a custom sliding drawer for the keyboard. Is it wide enough for an 88 note controller?
@@schmook9965 yes, I’ve had an 88 key under my desk and it fits fine. I measure about 53” clearance on the main desk.
Haha, you triggered my Alexa in the other room with your showing off!
Ha ha sorry. OK, maybe I was just a little bit of a show off with Alexa! LOL. However, I am obsessed with automating anything and everything I can though!
@@orangeroom5414 No worries, it is very cool! The Raven automation you demonstrated was great.
Haha, happened to me too. And the echo dot is in another room 30 ft away!
Nah bro.. this video was to short and sweet .. i need more .. i have had mine sat there and as of today got a email with theand not got into it fully as ive been having soundcard issues,but antelope audio are doing my warranty return finally so once thats back and uo and running i will start cutting into the raven more .
I had a update for cubase 13 today infact for the raven and ive installed and set that up ready .. please do another video going a lil more into the batch commands as this is the main reason i brought it..
I see you got a keyboard is that attached to the console or is it Separate?
The keyboard is attached to the computer. I still prefer typing when I need to. I also still want to use keyboard shortcuts. I use batch commands and gestures to execute multiple tasks I do repeatedly.
Hi there, if I may ask how have you got your PowerMate running? I could not find any update software anymore since about 2015. Or are you running it on an old computer?
I just got a new Mac M1 and I was able to download and use the griffin technology software version 3 from 2010. Still works. Reach out if you need more help, I can probably guide you through a zoom call.
@@orangeroom5414 Thanks for getting back!
Where could i find the software? I would love to give it a try since I still have a few Powermates laying around somewhere
@@steverachmadofficial I just googled it myself. Try this one:
mac.dailydownloaded.com/en/drivers/usb-drivers/21637-griffin-powermate-download-install
@@orangeroom5414 Thanks, will check it
@@orangeroom5414 Are you btw still happy with the MTi12? Playing with the idea of getting one. I have a lot of trouble lately with my hand/arm and trackpad. My hope is that it will relieve my arm a bit
Hey man! I literally did a review of this expressing some of my disappointments with the Raven and this is making me really want to sit back down and spend some time working with it to work out all the kinks. As soon slate sends me a replacement for the bad power supply.
Ha. This is why I posted a review. I really do get all the kinks and the initial gimmicky novelty feel if you just use it for what it is out of the box. But man, once you actually take the time to instruct it do what you want, it has a very rewarding feel as you sit back and let it do the work over and over. For me to just insert a UAD1176 plugin, I have to scroll down a mile to pick the plugin. Now I just hit a button and it adds the plugin right to my selected track. Anyway, good luck. Hit me up if you have any questions.
THANK YOU , IM BUYING IT AND SUBSCRIBING
Have fun!!!!
but you can use batch command without a touch screen its available as a separate download for any daw.
so although you cant use gestures still.....
Agree and great point! I did buy the console not just for the software but for the touchscreen, the desk, sidecar, etc. Tried planning on making my own but could not beat the finished polished turn key + support behind the package.
@@orangeroom5414 I understand, I just see buying something like the studio live mixers from presonus that have daw control, On a high quality Zaor studio desk, with a big 43" screen as a much better solution for a better price. Including batch commands of course for an xtra 100 bucks !
@@cncbmusic151 Yes, the beauty of choices. Everyone has different priorities and preferences. I guess it's all about whatever makes us and the people we work with happy and inspired and yes, it should always make $ sense.
Very good
Thank you
Hey orange room what mouse do you use
White mouse you're using
@@Helios824 Just a standard wired apple mouse. I stopped using a wireless one because I keep running out of battery. I do also use a trackpad on another station and that one is wireless. But now, I find using touch much easier to jump around.
@@orangeroom5414 thank you bro 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Alexa is for the Skreets
Lol. How does one live without Alexa?
Was he trying to show off he’s got Alexa?
Ha ha. It's how I turn on everything but yes, definitely showing off my Alexa!
Your room sounds untreated.