Neuvillette Might Be Impossible To Powercreep | Meta Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • A meta analysis about Neuvillette and powercreep in Genshin Impact
    00:00 Why Neuvillette Is The Best
    04:18 Low Risk = High Reward
    06:17 Current DMG Ceiling and Future
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  • @TheGenshinScientist
    @TheGenshinScientist  5 місяців тому +46

    Gave up on the editing after 10 seconds. Also, happy new year!!!
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  • @William_111
    @William_111 5 місяців тому +735

    The only part missing in this video, is how as a dps he can sustain dmg by himself. Neuvillette is the only character that can heal himself back to full health without losing dps or having to switch to another character.

    • @Tnscla
      @Tnscla 5 місяців тому +86

      He also can use the MH set without Furina, freeing you to use her in other teams.
      Im actually considering getting Childe next time he comes back just to use him instead of Furina in Nuev teams lol.

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 5 місяців тому +25

      No??? Rizzley can do that at some cons, Gaming will be able to do it too, and a bunch of future characters. It's just a matter of when rather than of if

    • @twistaaahh4787
      @twistaaahh4787 5 місяців тому +92

      Heres the thing
      Wrio actually cant self sustain at c0, infact he needs a healer to be played at c0
      And ga ming has gameplay issues with his plunges pushing enemies back
      Either waiy, neuvilette just makes their self healing look abysmal

    • @Raygetto
      @Raygetto 5 місяців тому +15

      Not only that, even his blue balls mechanic for CA can be ignored simply by holding CA. He doesn’t suffer nearly as much from interruption to his rotation or missing skills/ energy.

    • @Daniel-xs1bx
      @Daniel-xs1bx 5 місяців тому +14

      ​@@impostorsyndrome1350
      No, Wriothesley loses more life than he recovers, he has to lose 40% of his life and the loaded one only recovers 30% so at some point he will run out of life if you don't take a healer

  • @Jawir-bu2pj
    @Jawir-bu2pj 5 місяців тому +339

    I just realised that neuvilette is one of the rare character that has attack that can penetrate mitacurl shield without poise breaking

    • @bumerang6525
      @bumerang6525 5 місяців тому +49

      YES forget abyss its like water breaking nokia phone video i was so shocked when i first find out haha

    • @cyberjeeb
      @cyberjeeb 5 місяців тому +38

      Bro I always said xiao was an underated DPS for his sheild pericing and universal uses, but the only counter to neuvillete is hydro which is an awesome counter to have cause free hyperbloom.

    • @Kross_Vik
      @Kross_Vik 5 місяців тому +3

      Navia Gunbrella too

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 5 місяців тому +2

      Swirl its very nature already penerate that shield tho

    • @Cocxy69
      @Cocxy69 5 місяців тому

      Xiao does it too, not as good ig but I think he's the second only that can

  • @cloudweaving
    @cloudweaving 5 місяців тому +428

    honestly from a lore perspective, i'm glad he's as op as he is and i'm glad he will have a lot of longevity because he's canonically one of, if not, THE most powerful beings in the world of teyvat

    • @hirone5337
      @hirone5337 5 місяців тому +56

      Yea not counting Celestia he s absolutely the strongest at this point

    • @TheGwilwileth
      @TheGwilwileth 5 місяців тому +14

      Completely agree…

    • @aurelia2132
      @aurelia2132 5 місяців тому +25

      Completely agree! I'm so glad he lives up to his lore.

    • @Daniel-xs1bx
      @Daniel-xs1bx 5 місяців тому +42

      Yes, I couldn't take it anymore that the best dps are weak in the lore, literally only Alhaitham was a strong top tier dps in the lore

    • @hirone5337
      @hirone5337 5 місяців тому +12

      @@Daniel-xs1bx I hope that CR makes Xiao OP.. because I love him and I love how strong he is in Lore …

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 5 місяців тому +297

    My friend got c0r1 Neuvillette and just shot from 28 to 36 stars in a couple weeks, it's insane. I used to have to help him clear domains and now he's lightyears beyond me in clear time just from one dude.

    • @kingdoom5022
      @kingdoom5022 5 місяців тому +36

      you can pretty much easily 36 star abyss with almost any 5 star DPS at C0R1 , not neuvellite exclusive thing

    • @Sambroke
      @Sambroke 5 місяців тому

      Genshin players are so shit they need to completely break an already easy game

    • @maevethefox5912
      @maevethefox5912 5 місяців тому +46

      @@kingdoom5022 Just new. Was maining Ayaka before, Neuvillette was just such a bonkers increase in damage despite have trash artifacts and not a ton of experience

    • @user-lk6wy8mz6w
      @user-lk6wy8mz6w 5 місяців тому +1

      Not really. He has a more powerful character than you...but you have more skill.

    • @Hencid
      @Hencid 5 місяців тому +109

      @@kingdoom5022 no other dps in the game outside of neuvillette can hard carry a team on his own and with bad artifact in a couple of weeks, stop the cap 🧢 you know full well that even a juiced up c3 raiden can't accomplish that

  • @zaraki942
    @zaraki942 5 місяців тому +44

    Bro said fk er, fk a team, fk a healer, fk running to enemy and fk celestia

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому +2

      Team wise there are multiple better teams, albeit hard to use

    • @zaraki942
      @zaraki942 4 місяці тому

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 no, neuvillete teams >>

  • @owlofficial765
    @owlofficial765 5 місяців тому +77

    His charged attack is literally Ayaka's burst but better. Controllable and almost permanent while just needing 3 hydro reactions to boost damage. Worth to mention that his charged attack has more vertical AoE than Ayaka which pierces anything at the back as well

    • @angeloamor4882
      @angeloamor4882 5 місяців тому +6

      Indeed

    • @lumiere3295
      @lumiere3295 5 місяців тому +16

      I said same thing in Reddit last month and got downvoted to the ground lol

    • @owlofficial765
      @owlofficial765 5 місяців тому +10

      @@lumiere3295 ayaka stans are the most loyal beings so its expected ig. But if we really compare how they both deal damage its similar despite the differences

    • @FerryJoe-lh8ex
      @FerryJoe-lh8ex 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@owlofficial765 yes but with Ayaka's burst you can still do further damage through NA , CA and Elemental skill while for Neuvilette , during his CA , he cant really do anything else. But of course at the cost of Ayaka's burst having downtime and its uncontrollably laughable like it goes to another place for no reason

    • @owlofficial765
      @owlofficial765 5 місяців тому +2

      @@FerryJoe-lh8ex tbf yes she does other things during her burst and Ayaka's burst has faster ticks/hitrate than Neuvi's CA but all of that for her to get her burst only miss or get wasted most often is just... And beside of how she requires like a lot of energy to do her main damage (her and her supports) Neuvi just wants 3 hydro reactions for them to do practically the same range of damage except Neuvi mostly don't suffer from downtime. And he can be played with Permafreeze team as well is just stealing everything from ayaka😭. Well he deserves his gameplay strength as a dragon sovereign tho

  • @jemarle32
    @jemarle32 5 місяців тому +31

    In addition, he also gains a LOT of damage with investment at low constellations (C1, C2 or even C3) (although at C6 he becomes a complete monster). His C1 is absolutely crazy (although not necessary) as he becomes a practically inmortal character: I feel safer having Neuvillette on the field than being with Zhongli's shield in another character.

  • @migoym6079
    @migoym6079 5 місяців тому +131

    I don’t think Hoyoverse intends to balance dps characters around Neuvilette at all. Neuvi is an outlier because he’s meant to be stronger than an archon lore-wise and they know that. Any future dps character would most likely be balanced around the likes of Hu Tao and Alhaitham

    • @CyanideOwl
      @CyanideOwl 5 місяців тому +18

      Traveler is supposed to be stronger than anyone lorewise. 🤔

    • @migoym6079
      @migoym6079 5 місяців тому +43

      @@CyanideOwl Well he’s free tho and Hoyoverse doesn’t want that

    • @bored_potato
      @bored_potato 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@migoym6079 except for star rail's MC anyway

    • @migoym6079
      @migoym6079 5 місяців тому +2

      @@bored_potato true

    • @koteghe7600
      @koteghe7600 5 місяців тому +4

      At point of lore we are in, he isn't stronger than archons
      makes sense he isn't more powerful than them in game​@@CyanideOwl

  • @gizdra1128
    @gizdra1128 5 місяців тому +38

    Neuvilette has so much range and damage that he is able to pierce the mitachurl's powerful wooden shield. Not many achieve that powerful feat without help or elemental reactions.

  • @bryanstrongwind7020
    @bryanstrongwind7020 5 місяців тому +37

    1 range aoe high dps
    2 can heal
    3 can use MH set
    4 can face tank since he's high hp scaling dps
    5 can reposition easily
    6 hydro element
    7 his signature is too op for him, can solve energy problem
    8 c1 has insane interruption resistance, and can use hydro resonance

    • @bryanstrongwind7020
      @bryanstrongwind7020 5 місяців тому +19

      9 can pierce shield

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 5 місяців тому +4

      10 can defeat floating enemies which litrally few does even with more dmg

    • @zach5935
      @zach5935 4 місяці тому +4

      11 high uptime - downtime ratio makes him easy as hell to use

    • @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
      @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn 4 місяці тому +3

      12 can do insane amounts of single rotation damage to multiple targets with terrible artifact luck and mediocre investment

    • @narukahatsu
      @narukahatsu 4 місяці тому +4

      13 even non gameplay wise he is peak design

  • @TyLeeEnjoyer
    @TyLeeEnjoyer 5 місяців тому +245

    The worst thing about Neuvillette's strength is that in every other upcoming dps character discussion we're all going to have to suffer a small army of Neuvillette mains telling the rest to "JuSt PuLl NeUVillEtTe XD".

    • @LargeBanana
      @LargeBanana 5 місяців тому +96

      But they are not wrong.

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 5 місяців тому +34

      My response will be: "Nah, idc, he's boring to play." (I have him on a currently inactive account)

    • @sara_s1737
      @sara_s1737 5 місяців тому +40

      Tbh if people in the future will be looking for a strong DPS, obviously Neuvillette is gonna be an easy pick no matter how annoying it gets. With other characters it gets on my nerves but if you're really looking for easy big numbers, there is no lie in saying that Neuvillette is the one.

    • @sunnypa7101
      @sunnypa7101 5 місяців тому +24

      ​@@LargeBananaand so it begins

    • @Gummie24
      @Gummie24 5 місяців тому +10

      they could just make a fire breathing version of Neuvillette that uses Flamethrower instead of Hydro Pump.

  • @impostorsyndrome1350
    @impostorsyndrome1350 5 місяців тому +66

    The good thing about Neuvillette is he's not just AoE god, he can also be ST boss. He's so versatile you can put him in hyperbloom team, and he cane make the thunder manifestation, or geo wolf lord (or other annoying bosses) a piece of cake.

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 5 місяців тому +31

    Neuv + Zhongli is all you need to clear the current Abyss

    • @salmanfarsi7413
      @salmanfarsi7413 5 місяців тому +18

      If you get neuviletts c1 you don't even need zhongle

    • @papupro2030
      @papupro2030 5 місяців тому

      @@salmanfarsi7413you don’t even need c1, i cleared floor 12 relatively easy with c0 solo neuvillette

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому

      By sacrificing the fun. DPS wise there are teams which deal more dmg but also more squishy and hard to use

    • @zoe218
      @zoe218 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@i_wont_touch_grass8917fun is subjective. I happen to have most of the DPS in the game with their sigs and some c1s and still have more fun playing Neuv teams with his 20+ support options

  • @shura7762
    @shura7762 5 місяців тому +12

    Bro was strong on everything ( gameplay and story) so I pulled him and became the new main character 😎

  • @hritwikranjan2198
    @hritwikranjan2198 5 місяців тому +42

    You should do more of these analyses. I really enjoyed your Dendro Video where you went over how Mihoyo forced a change of how Mihoyo designed something and why they took certain decisions that they did

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 5 місяців тому +15

    The thing that made Neuvillette even more broken, is because you can get the 3rd Stack at C0; with Furina; because you can infuse Kazuha’s Burst with Element that different than the Hydro Element; from the enemies, or the enemies are the one who effected by it. Which's really broken… Also you can give him Prototype Amber R5; with Furina, Zhongli; with Petra, and Kazuha, without needing a Healer; which's EVEN MORE BROKEN!!!

  • @ghassanehc
    @ghassanehc 5 місяців тому +12

    The thing that I find hilarious with neuvi is although he is still incredible at a baseline with f2p investment, he gains so much more with vertical investment since his weapon and cons( early ones especially) and even Furina’s cons are a significant upgrade for him and even for the whole team if we talk about furina

  • @RADZIO895
    @RADZIO895 5 місяців тому +12

    Imagine ayaka's ult, but it attacks for a longer part of the rotation and it's easier to set up and it can be aimed and it's a better element.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому

      Ayaka hits harder (4422% in 5 secs).Neuvillete's CA is just easy to use and hit the opponent while Ayaka hits harder but it's also much harder to hit the opponents and its over if you miss it
      But Ayaka's burst has a much higher dmg scaling

    • @moimeme3122
      @moimeme3122 2 місяці тому

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 in facts, not:
      raw ratios with different scalings don't mean a thing. Ayaka's burst when crown is 19 cuts + bloom 202.14%×19+303%.21 = 4144% total.
      In neuvillette's case, considering you cast the burst first then you have the time to perform 1.5 CA, it should be (burst damage + 2*waterfall) 40.06%+16.39%×2=73%
      then you add the CA damage, multiplied by either 1.25 or 1.6 depending on your number of A1 passive stacks: 14,47%×8 ticks×1,5=145% ×1,25 (typically in a furina team) =181%
      or x1.6 = 232%
      now make that 1 and half, you get respectively 271%+73%(burst) and 348%+73%, 344% and 421% total.
      now's the part you missed, what are these ratios scaling on? if i were to take only base ATK and HP, it would be unfair for ayaka, so let's add their respective weapon+5*flower and feather (the rest of the artifacts depends on build choices and rng, so this comparison would become arbitrary)
      but even with that, we now have:
      -ayaka baseATK: 1327
      -neuvillette baseHP: 21826
      and now you should see the big picture coming in:
      1327*4.144=54989 base damage for ayaka
      21826*3.44=75081 best case (or worst depending on the pov) or 21826*4.21=91887 for neuvillette.
      now add the rest of the second CA, and then ANOTHER ONE👆 (sry, i had to) and ayaka can't even compare, in a longer field time situation.

  • @flare2874
    @flare2874 5 місяців тому +10

    Neuvillette is the main reason I can finally 36 stars abyss. All my others DPS are decent but man is just main character OP broken 😂 I was saving for Furina until he debuted and his gameplay made me pulled for him. Now C0R1 triple crowned (the only character with this privilege in my roster), aiming for C6 ❤
    Happy New Year everyone! Hope you win all 50/50s and your year be blessed with abundance of joy 🎉🎉🎉

  • @butterfer0808
    @butterfer0808 5 місяців тому +7

    Jstern's gonna have a field day with this. This is free content for the podcast

  • @mickysaif
    @mickysaif 5 місяців тому +11

    happy new year TGS I've been following your content since alhaitham leaks and you ahev always provided high quality content, thank you for the hard work

  • @lSeKToRl
    @lSeKToRl 5 місяців тому +12

    This man didn't even mention what DPI quick switch on your gaming mouse allowing Neuvillette to nuke the whole room in a circle.

  • @tsuwu5260
    @tsuwu5260 5 місяців тому +9

    As a non Neuvi haver, I'm happy Genshin is easy enough he is not crucial by any mean.
    Unless when someone plays ONLY because of him, of course.

  • @Shadowhunter-bf4dw
    @Shadowhunter-bf4dw 5 місяців тому +38

    His C1-C3 performance is comparable with C6 5 stars (not quite but similar ranges of 110-160k dps with average investment, anecdotal evidence from YShelper), and super c0 F2P friendly with amber being a great weapon, hp% stats are as valuable as crit dmg in lots of situations, making him easier to build than other dps who want more balanced stats with crit, atk and often em. Ayato might be more flexible in more teams, but neuvi’s damage and self-sustaining potential helps a lot with enemies that deal a ton of damage to you, having that 30-40k hp + a 15-20k heal every charged attack for 3 to 4 times per rotation is just so comfortable. Overall a unit worthy of his dragonhood

    • @phorealthistime6165
      @phorealthistime6165 5 місяців тому +2

      So which c6 5 stars is he equal to at c1-3? Cuz sheets rnt everything

    • @SleepingPajamas
      @SleepingPajamas 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@phorealthistime6165C6 Xiao, C6 Yae Miko, C6 Raiden Shogun, C6 Alhaitham, C6 Nahida, C6 Hu tao (Tao can be better in single target), C6 Childe, C6 Itto, C6 Tighnari, C6 Lyney, C6 Wriothesley (Wrio can be better in single target)
      C6 Ganyu, C6 Yelan (Yelan can be better in single target) Just a few that come to mind

    • @pepelarrza3877
      @pepelarrza3877 5 місяців тому

      ​@@phorealthistime6165 Keqing and Diluc 😍😍😍

    • @Shadowhunter-bf4dw
      @Shadowhunter-bf4dw 5 місяців тому

      Saw some yshelper posts from hoyolab, obvs it's very build dependant, esp when it comes to hypercarries since they deal like 95% of team dmg, but anyway, saw a c6r1 yelan 130k, xiao c6r1 140k, 160k scara c6r1 (w/c6 faruzan), 160k ayaka c6r1 (without c6 shenhe), another more well built scara c6r5 with c6 faruzan pushed 200k, and this c0 or c1 hutao I saw had nearly 200k with c3 furina. (If not specially mentioned, characters have their typical best hypercarry teams on standard 20-22s rotations)
      But you're right, sheets aren't everything, for instance, take those 200ks with a grain of salt, people can artificially increase dps by making the rotation super short, but not actually practically long enough for the next rotation (e.g. 16s rotation with hutao and yelan, but yelan cooldown is 18s, and a realistic rotation with errors is around 20s, so 160k in 20s can be pushed to 200k in 16s)
      My c2r1 neuvi with furina c1 kazu and Charlotte does 125k in like a 25s or smth rotation, saw some other c0 and c1 neuvis hitting 100k to 120k with similar teams, but also saw a melt team with xiangling doing 160k with c0 or c1 neuvi, so imma go test and see if that's actually the case, if so, that makes his c1 nearly on par with c6 meta carries
      Note: all numbers are damage per second, once again, very build dependant, hard to compare teams if investment into carries isn't relatively equal.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Shadowhunter-bf4dw hutao doing 200k + dps is very possible at high investments like
      C1R1 Homa Hutao
      C2R1 Freedom Sworn Kazuha
      C2R1 Elegy Yelan
      C6R1 Mistsplitter Bennett
      She can do 200k per CA x11 + 500k burst and 900k total NA dmg thats already 3.6M dmg and yelan can also do 500k in 1 rotation
      so thats 4.1M in 19s rot since yelan cd is only 18s 4.1M ÷ 19s = 215k dps

  • @giorgostrim3709
    @giorgostrim3709 5 місяців тому +20

    Happy new year dude! ( Its not yet the new year but its coming soon) I enjoy your theorycrafting and i always watch your videos before i make a decision to pull or not. I am sad i lost my 50/50 on Neuvi but i am getting him next time he reruns. It makes sense Neuvilette is almost as strong as an archon since he is the water dragon.

  • @lancehalzen
    @lancehalzen 5 місяців тому +1

    Happy New Year, everyone! May your pulls be blessed this year.

  • @Tiwarie
    @Tiwarie 5 місяців тому

    Happy new year! This is my video in 2024 hehe. Thanks for your hard work Mr.TGS, always looking forward to your contents 🎉

  • @sansexe6999
    @sansexe6999 5 місяців тому +3

    Happy New Year TGS! Banger vid as usual, hope you have another successful year ahead!!

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 5 місяців тому +8

    Releasing them characters like Furina, and Neuvillette; without releasing the 13 Floor of the Abyss; is a crime.

    • @tsuwu5260
      @tsuwu5260 5 місяців тому +2

      It is instead a crime to release harder contents. Remember, as greedy as people claim Hoyo - specially Genshin devs - to be, the targeted audiences have always been casual who might not pull for everyone. Genshin is not Star Rail where contents get increasingly harder to clear.

  • @vladdyru
    @vladdyru 5 місяців тому +22

    I hope that the future abyss cycles wouldn't require Neuvillette's power level to fully clear them. Most gachas tend to implement this scummy content powercreep practice eventually, and seeing the constant HP pool increase, I'm really not so sure about Genshin not following it.

    • @kinkane1976
      @kinkane1976 5 місяців тому +32

      As TGS mentioned, his dmg isn’t powercreeping the current dmg ceiling. It isn’t a numeric powercreep that would harm the game’s health like in HI3 or HSR to an extent, but the way they designed his kit is much more stacked in terms of utilities than other dps.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому

      his dmg isnt peak dps its still alhaitham and hutao

    • @santi3256
      @santi3256 5 місяців тому +10

      @@kinkane1976 in terms of damage its not a powercreep. But in terms of AOE he is a complete powercreep, he can hit everything at the same time, he has litterally half abyss floor range 360° without damage reduction for hitting multiple enemies.
      And he have the best AOE in the game while also being almost equal to the best teams in the game

    • @kaltsit4539
      @kaltsit4539 5 місяців тому +7

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz You are actually delusional if you think hu tao and alhaitham is a peak dps, Hu tao and alhaitham is FAR from peak dps compared to neuvilette especially hu tao like my god c0 hu tao is so clunky and bad against an actual opponent that isn't a dummy bullet sponge that just stands there and do nothing except stare at you for 10 seconds and then attack a lil bit

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому

      @@kaltsit4539 here's calcs you noobs
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

  • @dad6666_
    @dad6666_ 5 місяців тому +1

    Happy new year TGS and thanks for all your awesome videos.

  • @RafidW9
    @RafidW9 5 місяців тому +54

    I don't say this lightly, but in my 3 years of playing I've never seen a C0 dps character more busted than Neuvi. He's just wild, and at C1R1 he's like any other C6 5 star level of broken.

    • @cmcguire7901
      @cmcguire7901 5 місяців тому +10

      Yeah I have C1 with Sac Jade and a relatively good MH set (150 ER, 95-206 crit ratio) and at that point I don't have to invest anything more into his artifacts to easily clear the abyss, so I can always use him as a "crutch" while I build other characters that are harder to get to the level of easily clearing abyss. Like Navia has been way more fun to play but her artifact domain has been giving me trash so I don't think she'll be abyss ready for at least another month.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      alhaitham is a better dps than him at c0 and f2p investment lol

    • @Coppersulfate81
      @Coppersulfate81 5 місяців тому +10

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzMore dps ≠ better dps. Alhaitham has energy issues and needs perfect timing + doesnt have great aoe. Neuvillette has acces to his damage almost 100% of the time, hes a true self sustainer. He also deals with multiple enemies at the same time

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Coppersulfate81 alhaitham energy issues?? he generates 6 particles himself, his NA and CA also generate energy every 3-4 hits and he attacks very fast like 20+ NA in a rotation, i get my burst back with 109% er and thatd without needing fav weaps

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Coppersulfate81 and aoe wise its wider than neuv and had enough length to make it be one of the best wave clear neuv aoe isnt even that good unless you do the 16k dpi mouse bug and neuv without his balls have a charge up time of 4s just to be able to do dmg ,

  • @ganyumaindayone1112
    @ganyumaindayone1112 5 місяців тому +31

    meanwhile they are like "oh no cloud retainer can heal a bit, we must avoid powercreep, quick nerf her to the ground so she is a side grade or worse jean"

    • @mordakie3805
      @mordakie3805 5 місяців тому +8

      It sucks but neuvilette messed up future 5 stars

    • @user-783hhss7w2oifhe
      @user-783hhss7w2oifhe 5 місяців тому +8

      ​​​@@mordakie3805 not really. Hoyo has no problem releasing future 5stars far worse than previous ones. Bruh, they make 5stars worse than their 1.0 4stars lmao

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 5 місяців тому +1

      They only seem to worry about balance when releasing a female character, 5 star or otherwise. Gaming in the same patch as cloud retainer is looking better than her even though he's a 4 star.

    • @lastorderx20001
      @lastorderx20001 4 місяці тому

      ​@@goddamnarshiaand it turns out that you were wrong

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому

      @@lastorderx20001 this was before the particle buff mate. They also removed her anti cc on release and made it a sucrose E style mini grouping.
      But funny you should miss the entire point of the comment being them only worrying about balance when its a female character and laser focusing on CR being above average instead of just average when chiori is in the beta right fucking now

  • @shaydean713
    @shaydean713 5 місяців тому +2

    I was thinking also about the value of supports that can pivot to be on fielders such as Sucrose and Nahida, and their effect on the necessity of having carries on the account and how powerful a carry needs to be worth the upgrade when you look at long term meta and I think Neuvillete maybe the only carry that clearly meets this criteria his only real weakness is he can't normal attack and this weakness maybe become painful if characters like the Hydro, Duo and Beidou, come out in other elements, Say Pyro Xinqui Came out Neuvillete can be dragged back down to earth. Natlan I believe will release characters that have anti-synergy with Neuvillete

  • @nikumilotic1333
    @nikumilotic1333 5 місяців тому +8

    Neviwet is not a hypercarry - zajeff 2023

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 5 місяців тому +8

      Neuvillette is substantially normal - jstern25 2023

    • @nikumilotic1333
      @nikumilotic1333 5 місяців тому +7

      Neviwet works around his ability to apply hydro - zajeff 2023

  • @theRaika
    @theRaika 5 місяців тому +28

    His Damage output isn't the Power creep, it's that he can self sustain while doing that damage.
    I think they should have kept his damage output but nerfed his self healing, make it so that his damage comes at a greater cost.
    They did that balance well with Hu Tao and even Wriostheley, but not for Neuvillette.

    • @Avalions
      @Avalions 5 місяців тому +7

      Most probably it was intentional from hoyo I think, in order to set a new standard for dps going forward. They did the same thing when hu tao came out and was able to self sustain with just a zhongli on her team making the likes of diluc who was the best dps back then obsolete, so not really a surprise there. I Do have to agree with you though, in balancing terms bro is busted.

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 5 місяців тому

      Nah I think it's specifically how busted his aoe is

    • @keku52
      @keku52 5 місяців тому +3

      Not only that, but how the fuck did they thought that the best aoe DPS going on par with single target DPS is a good idea? mind boggling balancing decision

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 5 місяців тому

      ​@@keku52had to sell this boring gary stu somehow

    • @ralphgnl3232
      @ralphgnl3232 5 місяців тому +1

      he called dragon sovereign for nothing.

  • @SkyWitch
    @SkyWitch 5 місяців тому +3

    Maybe all playable dragon sovereigns will be good as dps or maybe support or some other thing ? (Good means somewhat better than archons and vision holders)

  • @samibell888
    @samibell888 5 місяців тому +2

    I think the Iudex is one of the characters that is powerful in both the lore and the gameplay. off topic: you dropping the F bomb is the hottest thing Ive seen today ...acckkkk, happy holidays

  • @SuperShinigami3
    @SuperShinigami3 5 місяців тому +2

    They’ll probably add more flying and damage in specific areas type of enemies

  • @blaze8308
    @blaze8308 5 місяців тому +9

    Glad that I got his C0 R1. 😌
    82k per CA tick at 3 stacks in Neuvillette, Furina, Jean, AP Zhongli team is really broken. Now I need his C1 to do those numbers consistently

    • @SainInaban
      @SainInaban 5 місяців тому +1

      how can u get 3 stack when you put furina in the team?

    • @ym7402
      @ym7402 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@SainInabanI think its when you make a reaction against a creature that already has an element on them, like a pyro slime and so

    • @ryuzae2284
      @ryuzae2284 5 місяців тому

      C1 makes him got free stack when change him to onfield so u only need 2 others element to have fully stack his passive​@@SainInaban

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 5 місяців тому

      ​I just applied hydro on Masanori and tanked an electro infused atk using Jean from Masanori and self swirled using her burst. This way I swirled both Hydro and Electro and got the third stack. You can also get 3 stacks in the current abyss floor 12 first half as it has Pyro Lectors. Getting 3 stacks on C0 Neuvillette using double hydro is hard but not impossible.
      @@SainInaban

    • @SainInaban
      @SainInaban 5 місяців тому

      @@ym7402 ah ic well still its not consistent and on ur will dependent

  • @sara_s1737
    @sara_s1737 5 місяців тому +5

    I knew he would be special but I thought in-the-story special, not that he would break the game and my account lol
    He was and still is the only C0R1 character I ever solo 36* Abyss with. There are other characters that have high power level, but Neuvillette created a whole new category and whoever says something else is lying to themselves - putting him in the same tier as some broken supports like Nahida and Furina is exactly what I mean by that.
    I don't see him being powercreeped anytime soon. Maybe they will make some characters in the future to match his power level, but that's about it imo.

  • @prime1773
    @prime1773 5 місяців тому +2

    3:15
    I like your Genshin fanart. It looks great

  • @rendition55
    @rendition55 5 місяців тому +5

    Maybe all dragon Sovereigns (with their restored authorities) are going to be S tier carries?

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 5 місяців тому +5

      we dont even know that they will be playable. I think the rest are reborn as vishap dragons

    • @rendition55
      @rendition55 5 місяців тому +2

      @betatrix2545 Well, cloud retainer is becoming randomly playable as a human. And all the lore just adds to more and more dragons in the future. I just think it's fun to speculate.

    • @Shiiwata
      @Shiiwata 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@betatrix2545 i'm pretty sure they will be playable. we only have 2 archons left, so they need a new thing to sell to the players, and what is better than the sovereigns? natlan is already said to be the region of dragons, so i wouldn't be surprised if we meet the pyro sovereign next. neuvillette was reborn in a human appearance, but nothing in the game says sovereigns can't take on a human shape on their own if they wish so.

  • @ImagineCats9339
    @ImagineCats9339 5 місяців тому +13

    I don't think neuvillette is that good , he can't even kill hydro slimes

    • @baplox8323
      @baplox8323 5 місяців тому +19

      Technically he could with the clam set

    • @ImagineCats9339
      @ImagineCats9339 5 місяців тому +19

      @@baplox8323 oh no , there's no stopping him now

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 5 місяців тому +4

      @@ImagineCats9339even with skyward atlas or the dragonspine catalyst

  • @KumaBearXV
    @KumaBearXV 5 місяців тому +3

    Pls use youtube's subtitles if you don't have much time to edit, i like subtitles because i can watch ur videos without disturbing people near me

  • @chenchen6150
    @chenchen6150 5 місяців тому +1

    The only con Neuvi have are only his ascend mats in mid game content so new player might have to be patience progressing. But once you grind hard and reach Fontaine and can farm his ascend mats plus his bis artifact you can just go hard and don't really worry much future content at that point.
    He basicaly Arjuna Alter his noble phantasm can be boring but for a beserker ult spam buster he is good for general content.

    • @TairaNoKagekiyo-
      @TairaNoKagekiyo- 5 місяців тому

      Same feeling, like Arjuna Alter his personal DPS is really good on ST and in AoE

  • @vm8210
    @vm8210 4 місяці тому

    9:19 well by that logic also if we get a cryo applier thats insane( maybe tsaritsa), she also gets buffed

  • @xanthee_imr
    @xanthee_imr 5 місяців тому +11

    Great analysis, also based for showing the Furina-Kazuha-Zhongli team (people think you should necessarily bring a healer to make a Neuvi-Furina teams worth it but it’s not true) when talking about potential future upgrades, specifically looking at Zhongli. I kinda hoped that upgrade could be Navia but honestly the timings on the uptime of the various buffs are already so tight for maximum efficiency that you don’t have that much time to go back to Navia’s skill in the middle of your rotation and refreshing the Petra uptime isn’t enough to justify it, but honestly I think this is fair, Neuvillette’s consistency and flexibility is truly scary already to the point that I’m wondering how furthest can they go in the future with other carries? I’m not even sure you can stop him with Tulpa: just play hyperbloom 😂 he would still be great because he’s tanky, doesn’t want Bennett, can regenerate his health in an instant… of course it wouldn’t be ideal but Tulpa will only be in one chamber, you would then have Neuvillette in the other two smashing everything again. He’s truly a beast

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 5 місяців тому +5

      Well only if you have C2 Furina to max out the stacks easily through only Neuvi heal
      If your Furina is C0 that is a DPS loss because you can't max stack consistently

    • @elinamanansi5508
      @elinamanansi5508 5 місяців тому

      just get c1 neuvilette bruh

    • @xanthee_imr
      @xanthee_imr 5 місяців тому +4

      @@chihaotran1568 that’s false. It’s as good as other teams with healers, Neuvillette can get stacks and max them on his own (more slowly of course) and you compensate for the lack of a healer with other assets that provide powerful buffs like Kazuha himself and Zhongli with Petra and his res shred. It’s very powerful. A healer only gives you stacks faster, you can get similar power by building stacks slower and getting other benefits, Neuvillette allows that

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      change zhongli to fischl, youll get better dmg, zhongli is a waste of slot there kazuha already shreds resistances

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 5 місяців тому

      @@xanthee_imr Lol getting full Furina buff at the start of Neuvilette rotation is better 🥱 that's a fact
      C0 Furina without full Teame heal getting full stacks only at the end of the rotation
      That's why Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha, Baizhu is the top team

  • @kingdoom5022
    @kingdoom5022 5 місяців тому +8

    Tomorrow abyss is gonna be very bad for neuvellite but of course super easy for tartagila the best hydro DPS

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 5 місяців тому +11

      You mean super easy for Xingling 😂

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk 5 місяців тому +10

      Poor sweet summer Childe, always getting discredited

    • @jcceno4273
      @jcceno4273 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@blaze8308it's 2024, do casuals still think this

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 5 місяців тому +3

      @@jcceno4273 Childe's best and only competitive meta team is with Xingling. She is the one who does most of the dmg for average player and in case of Hydro Tulpa in the first half of the current abyss Childe can't do any dmg to that. That's the only thing in the current abyss that Neuvillette can't delete.
      Saying that the current abyss is going to be very bad for Neuvillette and super easy for Tartaglia is pure bullshit as both are hydro characters.
      I used Navia in the 1st half and Neuvillette in the 2nd half and got 36 stars in the first try.

    • @jcceno4273
      @jcceno4273 5 місяців тому +2

      @@blaze8308 true international Is childe's best team but xl is not carrying Childe, if anything Childe is the one abusing xl coz without him, no one can outmatch xl's fast pyro.

  • @wayforglory945
    @wayforglory945 5 місяців тому +2

    While I'd think that this is the peak of Hydro (which likely won't be) every time a character came out and was on the forefront of the pack was then matched-surpassed in the next region.
    The worst way they can balance Neuvilette would be to give him the Zhongli Shield treatment, and make enemies that specifically play around his strength (imagine enemies that can chase and easily stagger in an Aoe, or high hp bosses that build up resistances based on the highest elemental damage taken in order to force different elements dps's in the team) or have them be immune to hydro (Natlan's heat that drastically lowers the efficacy of Hydro and Snehznaya getting healed by Hydro).
    Worst way, since it basically powercreeps all Hydro characters in general.
    The best way would be to just gradually release stronger base and ceiling dps's, and release supports for older characters while always minding to not benefit Neuvilette (which is what I think they will do and pretty much already done).
    As it is now, Neuvilette is overtuned, his numbers were made big just in fear of being too weak for the "first" Sovereign (if others do come out, they might balance them around Neuvilette, which would be cool but horrifying for balance).
    His Aoe won't mean much if the damage bar gets higher as it has been, especially if the newer dps characters will be made to be appealing to pull.
    He won't be powercrept in Hydro, but he basically doomed Hydro Dps characters.

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ 5 місяців тому

      1. For zhongli shield treatment, idk. They only added those husks as counter. Usage rate is not the perfect meteic but ppl still use zhongli tho and he's still high on chart.
      2. Ruin variants of sumeru already exists that makes itself resistant based on which element deal more dmg.
      3. They are not going to add hydro immune enemies in both halves lmao. Did they ever add cryo immune enemies in both halves to sell dendro? NO. This hydro era is still using dendro in 2nd half. If we go by your words, dendro would've fallen off meta mid sumeru. Also they'll also add pyro immune enemies in mid natlan too just they're doing in fontaine.
      If we think about hp lock, bond of life exists. 4.1 abyss had those.

    • @wayforglory945
      @wayforglory945 5 місяців тому

      @@I_Don_Like_ for 1. it's an example, make an enemy that is pretty obviously built around a mechanic (in this case shielding), another example would be high hp enemies that need their shield broken by heavy attacks (claymore, physical, Geo, overload) to be damaged, kinda like the Geo Slimes but more annoying since you can't directly damage them, as far as I know Neuvilette can't break those type of shields.
      2. Then even better if they released stronger versions of them or a boss version of them, I've never even noticed that they built up resistances, as they died too quickly.
      3. Ofc they shouldn't release more hydro immune enemies, as I said it would be the worst way to handle the problem they made.
      The only problems with dealing with Neuvilette is that his kit revolves around firing a beam that does continuous damage and can be moved freely to achieve high Aoe, meaning that his ST is good but his AoE is by far better. If they up the ante for DPSs they will need to increase the others Dps in a way that doesn't benefit Neuvilette

  • @user-ru4cf4fo1h
    @user-ru4cf4fo1h 5 місяців тому +6

    Got a c6r1. He was my first c6 character and i pull for him just becouse of his lore :) There is no point in talking about its power, there is simply no content for it. But the saddest thing is that after him, I no longer see any sense in any с6. With the same investments, they will still be worse.

    • @evewhoo
      @evewhoo 5 місяців тому

      I'm still looking to C6 Klee and Kazuha even though I have Neuv C6R1, and I have Cyno and Yae both at C6. Actually, depending on how her kit turns out, I wouldn't mind Clorinde cons either

  • @SlayerFromBeyond
    @SlayerFromBeyond 5 місяців тому +4

    Give Neuvillette a Prototype Amber and you have a team-wide healer for your Furina team!

  • @serulu3490
    @serulu3490 5 місяців тому +5

    There is however the fact that he is a hydro dps, the worst element for shield breaking and the only element that does nothing against 3 different type of shields that are cryo, hydro and some electro shields
    And most of his good teams are focused only on one type of dmg, hydro. Which means not only hydro immune enemies counter him, but also hydro resistant enemies massively reduce his team capabilities, you will see a team like international or hu tao do not really get countered by pyro resistant enemies like the crab boss because half of their dmg is from the other element so they are still played but no one plays ayaka or wanderer against icewind suite
    The next region natlan, will be focused around pyro archon and pyro carries, and just like how they spammed pyro shields for 4 abysses in a row, they will probably spam cryo shields in there as well. Coincidentally the only fontaine enemy that isn't evolved into boss currently is the cryo sea hare, but it might get introduced and be in abyss after neuvillette's rerun in around 4.7
    Basically yes he is one of the strongest if not the strongest character currently but they could still just release enemies that continously counters him in the future, in the end, hoyo designs the meta and no character is truly hard for them to powercreep

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ 5 місяців тому +6

      But use hydro dps in 2nd half then? It's not like they added pyro shield enemies on both halves tho. Ppl rlly fixate on one half when they forget another half also exists. U r still using dendro in 2nd half.
      They are already adding hydro immune enemies on one half. Same thing can be said for natlan too. Mid natlan they will start adding pyro immune enemies.
      Also one thing I believe is that they are not adding same immune elemt in both halves. Iirc, they never added cryo immune enemies both halves to sell dendro characters.
      Edit: We don't know what hoyo will do. But looking back at trends, they are not gonna add hydro immune enemies on both halves.

    • @serulu3490
      @serulu3490 5 місяців тому

      @@I_Don_Like_ they can just add a hydro immune/resistant/shield on one side and a cryo/electro shield on the other, or a cryo shield on one side and an electro shield on the other side, there are a lot of different ways you can do this

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ 5 місяців тому +1

      @@serulu3490 Then use other teammates to break those shields. Just like during ayaka era, ppl used kokomi to break those pyro shields. It would be nice if they added a pyro teamwide healer for furina. But even without that just use very high ER xiangling. Vapevillette is a very popular team in speedruns.
      I'm very hopeful they'll add a good pyro off fielder in natlan and it may just be pyro archon.

  • @Kenruli
    @Kenruli 5 місяців тому +1

    I think lorewise Neuvillette being super powerful is great thing, Of course there will be more powerful characters most likely in the future.

  • @LazyPillowCase
    @LazyPillowCase 5 місяців тому +3

    My friend got nuvi and after that doing her abyss was just miles easier than it was before
    Like i could 36 star it no problem now

  • @lmntsgames3848
    @lmntsgames3848 5 місяців тому +4

    I keep saying the same since I'm a Neuvillette player.. the guy is busted af.. if I have a strong second team I can easily 36 stars abyss.. but only my Neuvillette and his team has a proper build.. not even maximum potential yet but I can breeze through his phase easily.. only my second team is struggling right now which is Kuki hyperbloom.. still building Kuki's team but Kuki herself is already built but it seems like her damage alone is still struggling so I'm building her other team members to have higher team dps..

    • @mohammedalamer4456
      @mohammedalamer4456 5 місяців тому

      If you have Nahida Kuki Shinobu team should be stronger (But should build Nahida with crit supstats you can build Kuki Shinobu with Dendro and Nahida with Gilded dreams)

  • @sanda888
    @sanda888 5 місяців тому +8

    Neuvillette is so satysfying to play. I find him to be the best dps character they've released for the last 2 years. No regrets of giving him C1R1 and C2 Furina.

  • @jonathan_chillgaming
    @jonathan_chillgaming 5 місяців тому +1

    as f2p i agree with this, got him and his weapon, save so much time in combat 😊

  • @leonardomeloni69
    @leonardomeloni69 5 місяців тому

    Could you make a video about Ga Ming's energy requirements at C4 + Bennett?

  • @moodiiperson7474
    @moodiiperson7474 5 місяців тому +6

    I'm so proud I got both him and his weapon on his original banner, and will be trying to get C6 on his rerun. Neuvillette is not only busted, but he's just a beautiful character in general.

  • @L17_8
    @L17_8 5 місяців тому +8

    To be completely honest, i domt think Neuvillette is a very good addition to this game. Genshin is already pretty easy as it is, so much so that people constantly clear the abyss with characters that arent even considered meta. The reason i say Neuvillette isnt a good addition is because he makes a game which is already so easy now even easier. Once you reach a certain AR and have completed the quests , the game is really boring. Theres really not that much else to do at all but the Daily's and then leave. One of the very few ways left to entertain yourself with this game is by doing the spiral abyss. But Neuvillette makes the abyss so easy that it reaches a point where its not even fun anymore. I know initially there's a thrill about using him seeing how easy he makes everything however over time it'll start to be clear how boring he makes the abyss because its too easy. Things are more fun when there's a challenge but Neuvillette removes the challenge and subsequently takes the fun out of it. And i know a lot of people are gonna disagree because they think hes fun to use and thats fine. Im not saying that he is boring, im saying that what he does to this game is boring. Theres a difference. Not everything is about meta. Genshin is already pretty boring as is when youve finished all the quests so having a character making things so easy to a point it becomes even more boring was not something this game needed. Thats just my opinion anyway

    • @dendenmushi9714
      @dendenmushi9714 5 місяців тому +1

      Neuvillette despite being such an overpowered character isn't the 1st instance of such bullshit.
      The number 1 offender is Nilou.
      You can literally pull for her give her free units (barbara-collei-dmc) without even farming shit and watch her clear Floor 12 of abyss like how?
      This the hardest content in the game. How did Hoyo decide to create an unit that shit on that content with 0 investment?
      I've seen people complain about Star Rail difficulty on twitter and comparing to Genshin and how even badly played 4* could clear.
      I realized how frickin shit was Genshin's endgame that this was possible and how frickin shit characters like Nilou, Lyney, Neuv and reaction like Hyperbloom exists in a game that easy and help you clear the frickin endgame without breaking a sweat.
      Frickin modern Pokemon is better and harder.

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere 5 місяців тому +1

      Not everyone just wants to do the dailies and leave , sure genshin content can be cleared with 4 stars everyone knows that, but why do you think dolphins and whales spend so much money in this game ? Certainly not because is boring to them , we all just have different goals in the game

  • @webbedshadow2601
    @webbedshadow2601 5 місяців тому

    I have my screen brightness down and thought the title said "Nilou" I looked closer to see it read "NEUVILLETTE"...

  • @owlofficial765
    @owlofficial765 5 місяців тому +1

    A character that could probably par on him is another dragon sovereign

  • @silverhawkscape2677
    @silverhawkscape2677 5 місяців тому +4

    To powercreep him is to throw so much BS on our way that he needs a Shield.

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi 5 місяців тому +5

      And C1 negates that too 💀

  • @bored_potato
    @bored_potato 5 місяців тому +9

    A kit befitting of the Hydro Dragon Sovereign

  • @coffeeholic8325
    @coffeeholic8325 5 місяців тому

    Really happy that with a few spare wishes I had at the time, managed to get the weapon and him, yes the weapon first, was trying to get the hp sword, he is the reason I ain’t crying for not getting furina… not that much…

    • @djampoucheukap1742
      @djampoucheukap1742 5 місяців тому

      Dont worry, i dont have her too. And neuvi doesn't even need her to crush everything

  • @yahikonightray5398
    @yahikonightray5398 5 місяців тому

    Can you make a vid about Furina?..
    Explain her as a support

  • @LargeBanana
    @LargeBanana 5 місяців тому +3

    I have a friend that started playing in his banner.
    Got him as his first dps and felt like every other character is trash. He cannot get excited for any other dps now lol.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому

      Except Childe, Lyney, Hu Tao, Ayaka, Navia and Alhaitham. Damagewise they are on par with Neuvi, or even more. Neuvillete's damage isn't powercreep, it's that he can self sustaine while doing damage and easy to use

    • @ChikyuuKun
      @ChikyuuKun 3 місяці тому

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 I mean sure, but what makes Neuvillette's damage so disgustingly busted is that his damage is continuous and he's like Yelan but on steroids (Even though Yelan has higher HP to damage scaling) with Furina, he just reached a new level of ridiculousness in terms of damage and sustain. If they Pyro archon or sovereign has a better pyro application then he'd be more busted with Vape.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 3 місяці тому

      @@ChikyuuKun for starters you are right but I would like to write it again that he is so popular not because of his high damage, it's because of his sustaining capabilities and capability to give his 100% without an elaborate setup. While Childe and Lyney can do higher damage in less time but the do 1 small mistake and you need to do the setup again.
      And we already have a strong Pyro applicator and I.e. Xiangling. Neuvillete only applies hydro thrice, you can check his icd so whether you use Xiangling or a really really strong Pyro applicator, the result will be the same

  • @georgielol
    @georgielol 5 місяців тому +4

    Happy new year TGS! I got my Neuvillete to hit for 60k per charged attack tick, which is pretty nice.

    • @walashi882
      @walashi882 5 місяців тому +3

      68k here 🤚 with furina it probably will be around 80k

    • @robinsonjoseph9987
      @robinsonjoseph9987 5 місяців тому +1

      106k charge attack with furina and kazuha

    • @georgielol
      @georgielol 5 місяців тому

      @@walashi882 Mine's only c0 and the artifacts are still not amazing.

    • @arconteprimordial
      @arconteprimordial 5 місяців тому +1

      Mine hit 76k per tic damage. 100 CR, 292 CD and 37,5k HP. He is C1 and Furina C3 + Baizhu and Kazuha.
      But if he uses HP crown can critic 90k per tic, but with only 78 CR missing just 1/5 critics it means lower dps than the 100 CR variant.

    • @georgielol
      @georgielol 5 місяців тому

      @@arconteprimordial Yeah I don't have anywhere near that much HP on mine. Just really difficult to balance all the stats.

  • @petermartin6522
    @petermartin6522 5 місяців тому +2

    Yep. Ik this. This why I went hard pity to get him lol

  • @morrismonet3554
    @morrismonet3554 5 місяців тому

    Who would be better in a Hyperbloom team, Neuvillette or Yelan? I don't have either one.

  • @sirdanph445
    @sirdanph445 5 місяців тому +4

    The only way they can powercreep this guy is to release a new element which wouldn't happen until Khaenriah.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому

      Neuvillete's damage isn't powercreep, it's that he can self sustaine while doing damage and easy to use

  • @adeniyimarvellous8259
    @adeniyimarvellous8259 5 місяців тому +7

    Well I feel he is just enjoying the 4.0 meta the hydro meta, during the 3.0 meta, we thought alhaitham was the say all and be all for a dps, because he was f2p and had a very powerful reaction, but neuvillette came out and it feels like no one cares about alhaitham or even hyperbloom again, like nobody talks about Nahida anymore instead now everyone is calling her overrated, once we enter the pyro meta, I see neuvillette falling in popularity because hoyo just knows how to make a particular patch favour a set of characters, hydro characters are having their time now, let Neuvillette enjoy, by time hoyo brings a character from natlan that just buffs pyro characters to the roof or they bring a character that doesn’t need to build crit to deal high damage then we would know what is up
    In conclusion, any character can get powercreep by hoyo anytime they feel like, hutao, Ganyu and Ayaka once had a 92% usage rate in the abyss that is the highest any dps has ever reached in abyss usage, now, hutao is just at roughly 30% range, Ayaka interchanging between 25% and 30% and Ganyu doesn’t even exist anymore😂 when they were the top dps it looked like nothing can ever powercreep them
    Neuvillette can get powercreep at anyday anytime there are a lot of ways to powercreep him
    Let’s just wait and watch for hoyo to do their magic, we still have pyro patch ahead of us and the cryo patch maybe melt would become meta no one knows let’s watch out for the future, people would soon start saying he is overrated let’s watch genshin players let’s watch

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 5 місяців тому +5

      Again, Neuvillette is powerful not just because he deals damage. Ayala, Ganyu, Hu Tao are good-okay carries, but they can't self sustain like Neuv can. They dont have such a huge AOE
      And who on earth is calling Nahida overrated, there's just no way someone said that 💀

    • @shamsielshahar120
      @shamsielshahar120 5 місяців тому

      ​@@3.16musiclet's see what miHoYo will do when Natlan comes but judging their history, there would be that character that will powercreep the previous powercreeping character.

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@3.16musicfr these people are showing their recency bias lol

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ 5 місяців тому

      Nobody cares about dendro??? U r literally using dendro in 2nd half. Oh hey, they are adding hydro immune enemies mid fontaine. Same can be said for natlan too. They will add pyro immune mid natlan.
      Alhaitham, hutao are still going strong. I think neuvi will also join this category.
      Also fun fact, based on previous trends, they ain't gonna add hydro immune enemies in both halves lmao. In the dendro era, it was dendro and ayaka. If neuvillette/furina didn't exist, I bet ppl will use ayaka or ganyu. They never just stright up powercreeped cryo. It's just that cryo doesn't have good reactions.
      Ayaka's main problem is that all dmg comes from her burst, if u miss, it's gameover. She also has only one good team and isn't that good against bosses.
      Hutao is also a 3 year old character and she's getting buffed till this day.
      They should've also powercreeped hutao when they released ayaka right?

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      alhaitham is still peak dendro and peak f2p dps tho
      he does more st dmg( 96k dps with 3 star weap ) than even hutao( 92k dps ) , and got great aoe with his and nahida's spreads (50k+ spreads with 3 star weap)

  • @otavionogueira8263
    @otavionogueira8263 5 місяців тому

    Which damage calculator are you using at 3:48 I'm searching fora a calcutor that can measure DPS per rotation

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      thats gcsim , but its so bad at calculating dps anyways just do your own maths

  • @j4nk3n
    @j4nk3n 5 місяців тому +15

    Its kind of insane how much crit damage you can have on neuv and still have enough crit rate to make a hu tao main jealous 😅

    • @userneverexisted
      @userneverexisted 5 місяців тому +4

      Hu tao is still better and more flexible then neuvillette

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 5 місяців тому +25

      @@userneverexisted💀

    • @shkosarhad3991
      @shkosarhad3991 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@userneverexistedlol no and hu tao is borng

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 5 місяців тому +12

      @@shkosarhad3991 neuv is charge attack and stare at enemies, that's infinitely more boring than hu tao

    • @shkosarhad3991
      @shkosarhad3991 5 місяців тому +5

      @@boringfactor8792 ok i admit that he gets boring if you use him a lot but in term of flexibility i have to say nuvy is better

  • @Droid3455
    @Droid3455 5 місяців тому +4

    Tbf I pulled c3 r1 Raiden because I thought her dmg was going to be unmatched for a long time, then my c1 Neuv with a 4* weapon comes and deals more dmg than her entire team lmao

  • @universalgamer8010
    @universalgamer8010 5 місяців тому +2

    Im glad I called how powerful he would be. People called me crazy.
    I knew the moment he was teased it depended on how often he attacks, and if it was a ramp up or set amount. I love him to death, but he is too powerful.

    • @icekyuu
      @icekyuu 5 місяців тому

      His power is high but I think it's still ok. It's how easy it is to achieve that power that should have been reined in.

  • @Lukz243
    @Lukz243 5 місяців тому

    First off, happy new year
    Second, Neuvi is definitely a force of nature in AoE

  • @nabilanawrinnijhum
    @nabilanawrinnijhum 5 місяців тому +9

    I went from 33 staring the abyss to 36 stars thanks to this man

    • @seagl4ss
      @seagl4ss 5 місяців тому +3

      same and i don’t even have him optimally built yet

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 5 місяців тому +12

      He was made for people with skill issue, I can appreciate now everybody being able to get the extra primos

  • @3.16music
    @3.16music 5 місяців тому +15

    Finally someone said it. I am so tired of some TC saying "Neuv is pretty good/good". Pretty good is insult for him lol

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +2

      hes a god for skill issued players, otherwise hes just good, he peaks at 73k dps, hutao and alhaitham both have 90k+ dps all in 4 star weaps

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzjust stop, you ain't convincing anyone that hutao is better. She is not 😂

    • @angeloamor4882
      @angeloamor4882 5 місяців тому

      Guilty

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому

      @@TroubleisHere here's calcs bozo
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 4 місяці тому

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzu always calc assuming 100% crit rate, and bcz Neuv’s signature set mh only gives crit rate u don’t factor this in your calcs.

  • @atalkingcat73
    @atalkingcat73 5 місяців тому +1

    Don't forget his spin to win tech which turns his AOE into a massive circle.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 4 місяці тому

      Depends on the situation and your skills, if you have grouping skills then spin to win is a lose of dps

  • @hirohero2490
    @hirohero2490 5 місяців тому

    Added 2 Tulpa in both floor of Spiral Abyss, Neuvillate:" welp i guess im out"

  • @umehu09
    @umehu09 5 місяців тому +4

    as a hu tao main, i raged a bit when you said hu tao was OK? like excuse me, she is a very good dps and can easily do over 100k (not like my hu tao can even do 60k but you get the point)
    anyway no hate but hu tao is best girl, and is the pookie of everyone's life. thank you for listening.
    also this is NOT a hate comment, im just stating my opinion as a hu tao main on the thumbnail

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 5 місяців тому +1

      That’s cool and all, but what the hell is a pookie?

    • @umehu09
      @umehu09 5 місяців тому +2

      @@RaikaKoshiba650 it's like a way of calling someone you liike or love, idk man, with a pet name like pookie ya know? idk why i call my favorite characters of games and books pookie, even when some of them are more emo than scara and xiao could ever be

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 5 місяців тому +1

      @@umehu09 Ah I see, thank you.

    • @umehu09
      @umehu09 5 місяців тому +2

      @@RaikaKoshiba650 welcome :D

  • @Fam98KK
    @Fam98KK 5 місяців тому +7

    Happy New Year TGS
    Neuvillete will forever remain one of the strongest
    but as for others: I don't think Alhaitham,Ayaka,Hutao will remain the strongest in their elemental categories forever.
    Capitano,Varka,Alice,Skirk,Dainslief etc etc will be some busted characters in future

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      neuv literally is still weaker than hutao and alhaitham hes overrated in terms of dmg, hes great once he has his sig weap but before that hes just okay alhaitham and hutao both have a dps of 90k+ in c0 4 star weaps neuv is on 70k something

    • @Shiiwata
      @Shiiwata 5 місяців тому +3

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz i think you should watch the video again

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Shiiwata dont need to i can do my own math he is 20k dps lower than alhaitham in their best teams even hutao is 15k-20k dps higher than him in st , if you dont have skill issue that is.

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere 5 місяців тому +3

      He said "Nevui is weaker than hutao"💀💀

    • @krazyvideos2677
      @krazyvideos2677 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzdo u even have him?

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 5 місяців тому +1

    Bro is lore accurate

  • @chronochim3220
    @chronochim3220 5 місяців тому +1

    Even in Seele 1.0 get power creep by Dhil in 1.3 form 200k dps to 400k dps (100%,) I just wonder when GI will get true power creep like Honkai.

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 5 місяців тому +4

      Why would you want the game to get power creep ??? 😂 Lol
      GI is a casual game so I hope It would not get to that stage

  • @PierceLavoy
    @PierceLavoy 5 місяців тому +5

    That’s why I’m skipping everyone to pull for him on his rerun

  • @mordakie3805
    @mordakie3805 5 місяців тому +5

    Brain dead Gameplay is why he is overpowered …there is very little you have to do gameplay wise to make him OP …unfortunately he’s boring to use anywhere besides the abyss

  • @gabrylorenzo1122
    @gabrylorenzo1122 5 місяців тому

    Il disegno è un tocco di classe

  • @glennsotelo
    @glennsotelo 5 місяців тому

    I am now saving for his C1 and C2

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 5 місяців тому +6

    Unfortunate that at this point in the game, DPS is not what attracts me to pulling. Being able to give more to the team, to open new gameplay, and help with keeping boredom has more value at least to me. So that's why I skipped him for Furina.
    So the point of the video that there might be no powercreep for Neuvilette. Well, at the current state of the game, going stronger than this is just overkill. I want a strong unit yes, but if the content is only Floor 12 then what's the point? It's not really hard for a 3 year old account. But if they raised the difficulty then other players would complain. They couldn't even think of just adding Floors 13 and 14. Or maybe require you to bring 3 teams so that your units won't end up collecting dust in the bench.
    I missed the time where I end up playing Abyss for 2 hours just to figure out how to get 36 stars but now 36 stars is just a given. Tomorrow we have a new Abyss cycle. Hopefully more fun than the current one.

  • @Daniel-xs1bx
    @Daniel-xs1bx 5 місяців тому +6

    I thought it would be impossible for a main dps to be better than Alhaitham on c0, I was wrong lol
    First Dan Heng, now Neuvillette, mihoyo really loves dragons

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому

      dps wise? neuv is still weaker than alhaitham and even hutao

    • @voii0777
      @voii0777 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzCope lmao

    • @KIDASU
      @KIDASU 5 місяців тому

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz got any calc or at least video on that...?😅

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому

      @@KIDASU
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

    • @hazard1one
      @hazard1one 5 місяців тому

      for e0 dan heng is not the best DPS lol

  • @user-wu6ii5tj2u
    @user-wu6ii5tj2u 5 місяців тому +1

    My issue with him is he can get a but too comfy to play that if i switch to a character that requires a bit of skill to play it's like getting isekai-ed haha. But overall, lore great (he's such a bbgurl); dps good; optimal comps good at C1; mechanics okay i guess E>CA>Q>CA isnt that difficult to pull off and are also interchangeable; playstyle good but not my cup of tea.

  • @soldierregi
    @soldierregi 5 місяців тому

    He's a one man army, solo abyss and all content with ease

  • @impostorsyndrome1350
    @impostorsyndrome1350 5 місяців тому +4

    "Neuvi is impossible to powercreep", and then they release more and more hydro immune/resistant enemies (Hydro Tulpa and the new 4.4 boss aware)

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 5 місяців тому +4

      Just take him in the other half

    • @sara_s1737
      @sara_s1737 5 місяців тому +8

      To me, that's not powercreep. That's like saying Nahida is bad because they made dendro-immune enemies. Let's say they put the Hydro Tulpa in the Abyss - just put Neuvillette (or any hydro damage dealer) on the other side. Doesn't change the fact Neuvillette is busted.
      To me, powercreep is comparing someone like Childe and Ayato to Neuvillette (and I have all 3 of them build as main DPS and seeing the difference in damage - THAT is definitely powercreep)

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sara_s1737 Yes, but to nerf him, they can start releasing enemies, that Neuvillette is not that good at dealing with. Similar how with Ayaka they released bosses and you can't freeze

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 5 місяців тому

      @@3.16music What if both hafs have those enemies?

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 5 місяців тому +4

      @@impostorsyndrome1350 well, they don’t. Unless they put hydro immune enemies to the both sides, it’s fine. And even if the enemy is hydro resistant, doesn’t really matter. Remember that Alhaitham easily beats chicken, even though it has high resistance to dendro

  • @musicaddict9058
    @musicaddict9058 5 місяців тому +28

    Neuvillette is only balanced by the fact that he is mind numbigly boring to play, so you fall asleep and lose dps. Wish he had more of a variety in his gameplay.

    • @ZZzz...69
      @ZZzz...69 5 місяців тому +26

      That's your opinion
      I find him fun to play

    • @pancake3365
      @pancake3365 5 місяців тому +6

      Hard disagree but go off

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 5 місяців тому +16

      ​@@ZZzz...69It's okay to be wrong, i forgive you.

    • @Marta1Buck
      @Marta1Buck 5 місяців тому +3

      After playing him since his release, I got bored of him. Happened to kazuha, yelan, kokomi, and pretty much every character that I played too much with.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 5 місяців тому +4

      You just have to admit that the funniest dps in the game is Ganyu because you have to constantly be aware of everything around you, the best place to fire your arrow, your pyro app, your buffs, your shields HPs… highly technical

  • @luminous3558
    @luminous3558 5 місяців тому +2

    Being easy to use and not really relying on reactions are probably his biggest upsides aside from doing top tier damage.
    SO many players just cannot play teams to the required level which is mostly due to the game not being very upfront with how things actually work, content creators also tend to just assume people know how to do things.
    The average player doesn't know how to properly activate VV, especially not on multiple elements.
    - It needs an element to be ON an enemy
    -The VV unit needs to be on field at the time of swirl
    - infusion/absorption doesnt matter for VV
    Without knowing this you probably think you are applying VV but aren't and are thus losing a lot of dmg without knowing. Content creators assume you are doing it correctly.
    Neuvillete has flexible field time so its really easy to just go Neuv E > Kazuha E unlike characters who need to stay on field the whole time.

  • @nomnom1691
    @nomnom1691 5 місяців тому

    Well with neuvillette and Furina which other two character you recommend for high damage?

  • @ZennikoCallisto12
    @ZennikoCallisto12 5 місяців тому +5

    as a wanderer main, im suprised that neuvi c0r1 have the same output as wanderer c6r1, that is insanity

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 5 місяців тому +3

      then build your wanderer correctly? c6 wanderer is the best c6 character in the game, even at c2 he already becomes a god character